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Everything you watch, read, or listen to is manipulating your energy.

You're being lied to about the world you live in.

You're being lied to about your history.

You're being lied to about who you really are.

Question everything.

All right, folks, welcome back to another episode of the Awakened podcast.

I'm your host Brad Leale, and joining me on the show today is the host of the Realities Ours podcast, Nate Chevoye.

What's up, Nate?

Welcome to this show, man, How are you?

You know, I'm doing great.

Thank you for inviting me on.

Man, So it's pretty much just you now at Reality Is Ours.

I mean, I see Paranoid American every now and then.

I don't think Thomas is on.

I see I'm bad about like putting out episodes when they're supposed to.

Dude, I'm so backed up on shows, and then like anyways, nobody needs to hear the back stuff.

But no, Thomas is on.

There was just a period when Thomas was on a glacier for two weeks.

So there's like three or four episodes that I probably put out like congruently where he wasn't there.

But no, Yeah, Thomas is still on and Tony the last time.

If a big enough guest comes on, he'll show up.

But most of that, dude, he moved to New Hampshire.

He's living his life.

He's having a baby.

He might even have the baby.

I should probably calm and reach out to him and see how he's doing.

But he's a good dude.

He just kind of he changed, not changed, he just his priorities changed.

Man, He's like he's like he just he kind of drifted.

But the last time we had him to come on was David Ike.

Was that we had on the show again and I was like, dude, you love David Ike.

Do you want to come on?

And so he showed up for that, so that was cool.

Yeah.

I've been trying to get David Ike on the show as well.

Man.

I reached out to Jimma or Gimma.

I've been talking back and forth to her.

I think he's writing a book right now, so it's really hard to get in touch with him.

But I've been wanting to talk to him about Reptilians.

He's the guy for that, man, you know, he's definitely the guy for all that talk.

But listen, man, before we get started in the talk of the holographic reality slash simulated reality, would you mind just letting everyone know just a little bit more about yourself and where they can find you.

Sure, man, again, my name is Nathan Chavoya.

I am a father, I am a husband.

I am a weirdo mystical Christian that makes people mad sometimes, but I'm not your traditional Christian.

But I love Jesus.

Jesus Christ is first.

Let's see here I started my journey.

I guess you could say as a My mother was like a hardcore Pentecostal.

I don't know.

I don't know where we're going right now, so I don't know if this is the part where I start talking about that stuff.

You can follow me at realities ours at gmail dot com, all the Instagrams, all the Twitters, all the rumble.

We got kicked off of YouTube, we're not allowed there anymore.

But that's fun.

But as far as my journey goes, my awakening, if this is where we're going, we're starting out.

I was a radical, weirdo Christian kid that saw all kinds of crazy stuff because I was born in a very charismatic Pentecostal type church where we were going in and out of like tech revivals and running around and so mysticism and magic to me, I know this would offend them greatly, But in the Pentecostal world, it is a flavor of Christianity that is much so, very mystical and very magical, and that that is just part of the day to day because at any one time, you're battling demons.

I was taught to battle demons since I since I could walk, I was battling demons.

We were laying hands on people, praying in tongues, we were prayer warriors, and we expected miracles.

That's just your day to day life is expecting miracles.

So that's my background where I come from.

So if you think I'm a weirdo, that I mean, okay, yeah, I kind of am.

I don't think most people are raised that way.

Yeah, I've been to a few of those churches, man, believe or not.

I'm I'm Southern Baptist, so we're very like open the hymns.

Seeing your hymns where they are thirty to forty five minutes is very you know, I wouldn't say boring, but it's like very vanilla, you know, it's just all right, Well, let's go home, have some Sunday dinner and then go about our day.

I guess, but I've been to I used to date a girl who went to a pinnacon.

I did a couple girls that went to a couple of different Pentecostal church and two of my best friends growing up actually went to two separate Pentecostal churches as well, so I'd been to four different ones.

And man, it's wild.

It's at least in the South, it's a really wild experience, if you know.

I told my wife, she's a Christian, and I told her, I'm like, if you really want to get an understanding of the different versions, not reality, but different versions of Christianity, which there's fifty five thousand different types of Christianity, go into a Pentecostal Holiness church and your eyes will open to the world around you go, what is going on here?

I'm not against it, right, I'm not four or against Pentecostal holdings churches.

But what I saw, what I experienced whenever I was in there was very It didn't feel right to me.

It felt like it felt like we were being our energy was being manipulated in a way.

And this was when I was fourteen, fifteen, sixteen years old, and it felt like we were are It felt like the band was sort of priming us with music.

And then the preacher came up there and would prime us with certain the way he'd say things, and you could feel the energy sort of building.

And then he would just wave his hand and speaking in tongues, and all of a sudden, everybody's getting the Holy Spirit and you know, all this other stuff.

So you get this.

Uh.

I started seeing, like, you know, six year old kids who were like little red egg boys who you know, could barely speak English, walking around speaking in tongues, and old men it's.

One of the little red skin boys doing that.

Well, I was, you know, I could see little I could see old men cutting back flips down the aisle.

Uh.

Lots of people just getting the holy what they call the Holy Spirit.

I'm not completely convinced of that being the Holy Spirit, just because I've the what I've seen, it doesn't look like a loving thing that possesses your body?

Right?

Am I wrong?

Or right?

In saying that?

I mean off, I would say that you're off, dude, but it's fine, Like I understand why it freaks you out.

Southern Baptists are very okay, how do I say very vanilla?

The staking the ass isn't the right word for it, but like that's how my wife was raised, was not Southern Baptist.

But Uh, there's a flavor of church out here that call themselves like non denom.

Uh.

They call themselves the Christian Churches, and they're basically Southern Baptists without like, uh having the Southern Baptists be able to tell them what to do, Like they're kind of a more independent but they're Southern Baptists.

Uh, they are so dude.

They don't believe in miracles.

The church is literally dead.

They don't believe that Jesus can, uh can like like say, let's say you have cancer.

They don't believe that Jesus can take your cancer away.

They don't expect miracles daily anymore.

I don't know about the Southern Baptist Church.

Maybe you guys actually believe in that.

I don't know, but like they're so dead to me, they those churches are dead.

God doesn't exist there anymore.

Like you can meet God in a spiritual way, like you can.

You still can, but if you start expressing that, they want you to leave to me.

It's really interesting.

Like if I raised my hands and started like singing, they would get uncomfortable and they would everyone would start looking at me.

If you feel the spirit of the Holy Ghost, if you feel Jesus in your like his presence like overwhelming your body, they want you to leave to me.

I like, And they're nice people.

I'll go to any church.

I've had a great time.

I can find Jesus because I'm a christ centered person anywhere.

Dude.

I went to a full Mass the other day or a high Mass.

I guess that was about a year ago.

I went to like a Latin Mass, like a Catholic church because I just wanted to watch it.

Dude.

They're doing these crazy rituals that they've been doing the same way for like two thousand years, supposedly, if you believe the bullshit.

And I watched it.

It was interesting.

They have smoke balls.

There's weird little he turns this way and says a little thing.

Then he goes over here and this guy kisses his hand and they do a thing in a ritual and they're wearing their little smocks.

It was fascinating.

I loved it.

I find Jesus anywhere except maybe a Mormon church.

I've never been to a Mormon church.

And I mean judgmental, but.

Well, and I'm not trying to be offensive when I talk about it.

I talk about it from my experience, right, because when you a given a good example.

My girlfriend's mom called the Holy Spirit and she was like convulsing on the ground.

And when I went to pick her up, me and my ex girlfriend went to pick her up off the ground.

I mean, her face, it I can't I can't describe it didn't look comfortable.

It looked like something was trying to get out of her.

Right now, I don't know.

That's not to say that maybe she wasn't ready for the Holy Spirit.

Or I don't.

I don't know anything about any of that stuff.

But what I experienced was like, Okay, this is definitely not normal for me, you know what I mean, going to church and singing, you know, your your normal hymns.

But yeah, I agree with you, though, Man, there's different.

You go into different churches and it's more lively.

You know.

That's why, like these megachurches do well because they have like concerts and stuff.

You know, it's more lively for people.

It's not very it's not very country club like.

And then the South is very country club you know.

So we know that the flavor of Pentecostalism is very different in the South.

I grew up in the Pacific Northwest.

It's not like nobody has snakes, you know what I mean.

That's a very particular flavor in the South, and they can get a little crazy.

I've never been to a Southern like Pentecostal church, and so I really have no idea what you experienced.

These guys are probably a little different.

Yeah, I would imagine nobody was going backflips.

That actually sounds like fun.

It's live, for sure.

It's definitely lit.

Dude, and I got up one time during revival, me and my buddy Chase Man, and we were there just to hang out.

See.

There was this girl we really we really liked, named Amanda, and we used to go and sit behind her at church and then they had it.

So you don't get the Holy Spirit every weekend in Pentecostal you know, Church of God type churches in North Carolina, or at least the ones I've been at it's you know, maybe once every two months or something.

It doesn't happen all the time.

But it was like a revival week and we went a couple of days in a row and the preacher called, you know, was calling people up, come, young folks, come up here real quick.

And then we got up and you put your hand up, and you know, he's he's speaking in tongues and throwing things in the air and you know, all this other stuff.

And then I felt my body start to shake right like I like me and Chase at the same time.

We both were like, you know, convulsing a little bit, and we both pulled back and we both went and sat down and like.

What is that?

What was that?

Dude?

You know we were I mean he went to that church, that was his family.

Got to embrace it.

Dude, you guys just broke it up.

Just well.

I'm just worried that, like because my grandma always told me, like, if there's not a translator, then you know, is it from God?

That kind of thing, So like if somebody speaking in tongues, like you know, through people or whatever, then is that really from God?

So that that's one thing that always kind of sticks in my mind.

And I'm not saying that there was negative energy taking me over or anything like that, but it was definitely a weird experience because I'd never experienced that before.

But I didn't mean to get off on that tangent for you know, I was just saying that, like Pentecostal is, definitely it's different.

I mean, there's so many different flavors of Christianity.

But one of the biggest things that I learned from those experiences was that there is this spiritual world around us.

There's this like energy around us all the time that we're constantly connected to.

You know, there's this.

Well.

I mean, people call it the collective consciousness.

Some people call it the christ consciousness.

Some people call it the Holy Spirit.

I think it is the Holy Spirit personally.

That's what I call it as well, that we can sort of tap into.

Some people call it the quantum field.

There's a million different names for what that energy is, the ether, plasma, you name it.

There's on and on.

But it made me realize that there's something bigger going on that we don't know about, and that things vibrate and things have energy, and there's good energies around us and there's bad energies around us and things like that, and it made me really question reality.

And this was as a kid, you know, and so when you live your life growing up having these deep questions about what was that?

How did that just come into my body?

What?

Or you know, what was that witnessing with a six year old speaking in tongues and the old man cutting back flips down the aisle and stuff like that.

Where was that coming from?

Because it felt like it was being controlled from not locally, it felt like it was being controlled from somewhere beyond right, like some maybe some video game, maybe something like I said, literally possesses someone's body.

Maybe it's the Holy Spirit just vibrating and flowing through everybody.

But it just had bigger implications for me, like about reality in the world we live in.

So you know, I brought you on the day to sort of talk about that kind of stuff, man, to talk about the different types of reality.

I mean, we've got simulated reality, we have holographic reality.

There's all kind of different theories as to what we live in now.

Ay, the theory on simulated reality is where we're in a computer simulation and it's sort of created by a higher intelligence, and we're kind of like AI, you know, and there's like an uh, you know, an operator or some kind of a post human programmer or something.

There's this technological materialism, I guess, because we're we all want this technology all the time.

We want newer computers and TVs and phones and all this stuff, and it and it it.

It's kind of like playing a video game, like you you're an avatar, your consciousness is sort of put into an avatar.

And that's like simulation theory in a nutshell, right, And then you got holographic theory, which is like we're like a projection from a lower dimension, right, like a two D dimension I guess, kind of like a if you cut on a projector in a movie theater, you can see the projector projecting something onto the screen and it looks real to you because it's on the screen.

So that's kind of how I look at the holographic universe.

Theory is that we're being projected from somewhere and.

You know where.

It's more of like a me metaphysical unity, Like we're in this where we're conscious projections, I guess you could say, rather than being imported into an avatar, and this is our this is our avatar.

We're more like a conscious project projection from like a deeper, you know, unified field.

Do you think because you're the realities are right?

I wanted to bring you on specifically because you have you know, you talk a lot about reality on your show.

Do you think that we're living in some sort of a holographic reality or simulated reality or something greater than that?

So I choose option three, So it really depends on which day you catch me on.

Right, So, like you said, like simulated reality would be like we're living in a giant computer generated simulation extreme vance like video game virtual environment.

That like that's like the big proponent of this.

It's like Joe Rogan and like these type of folks that we talk about, even Elon Musk, I think where they would say that we've reached some sort of that if it's possible to generate virtual reality so perfectly that you could never be able to tell the difference between the two.

If we can do that now, then obviously it's more than likely that this has already happened and that now we are probably in some sort of like giant video game.

I like that idea.

I used to really like that idea until I don't know what got me out of it, maybe just not being retarded anymore.

So to me, it's not impossible.

But I think that it is something bigger than that.

And this is where Christians will get mad at me, because I think that it's something more spiritual, and so Christians will get mad at me because I'm a weirdo that blends old Gnostic belief with Christianity as far as like maybe this is a simulation, but it is like a conscious projection that is being created by something similar to like a demi urge.

Right, so, like this demiurge created this this consciousness that we're in right now is kind of a soul trap.

That we are this beautiful, endless piece of eternity right here that gets kind of swooped down and thrown into like a gross little meat suit.

And maybe you have a choice in it.

Maybe you have a choice in like like your socioeconomic status.

Maybe you know there's gonna be some challenges to or maybe you don't have a choice and you just get thrown in and it's a lottery.

I don't know, but I kind of feel that we are possibly in sort of some sort of soul trap that but here's the thing, I don't think it's a bad thing.

That's where I get off board with the gnostics.

The gnostics look at this place like we're in a giant prison cell and that it's kind of evil and we need to fight the demiurge.

Dude.

I love this reality.

I think it's fantastic.

Maybe that just means I have like really sweet posters on my jail cell, or maybe I have a window with a nice view.

I'll admit that.

But I like it, dude.

I have a great positive outlook on this place.

But it does to me.

Whatever it is, it's fake, dude.

There's too many things, or at least the reality that is trying to Okay, when you look at the media today, when you look at the different things that they are doing to us and the stories that they're telling us, the narratives that they are just regurgitating to us, it can't be real.

None of it can be real, dude.

It's like being I don't know if like the news media at this point has just like let an Ai kind of just like okay, what's the news for today?

All right?

This is what we're doing, and so that's why it feels so fake and bizarre.

But like I was watching, like so Israel obviously, so this is gonna time mark this So I don't know when you're releasing this, But yesterday Israel decided to start bombing Iran and I'm watching the news from the dude from from the IDF.

He's behind a green screen.

Obviously, it's super clear, like everything in front of him, even his outfit looked fake and he sounded weird.

The color choices, the entire thing was ai, dude, there's you can't convince me otherwise.

So like we're at a point now that like is so what is simulated reality?

I have no fucking idea, dude, And are we recreating it currently?

And it's like we're stuck in a weird loop.

I don't know, dude, I haven't spoke any pop today, but now it does.

It definitely feels that way.

Man.

I'll go into like grocery stores, and there's something about fluorescent lighting that really straight usually weirds me out, man, I can't.

I know, I've talked a lot about these sort of things on my show, So I'm sorry if you guys have heard these stories before, but like I've walked by windows at night and just seen a light on and I'm like, that's that's a weird, eerie feeling.

And I don't understand it, Like it doesn't feel real, it doesn't feel right.

And that's what it feels like when I go to a grocery store.

I'll just I'll look at people and like everybody looks like aliens to me, everybody, dude, And it's just a strange.

How do I describe it?

Yeah, it just made it.

It's a it's a weird thing where almost like a it's almost like my eyes sort of quickly glitch or filter or something, and I can almost see something beyond that, something deeper.

And I don't know.

I don't know if it's because I haven't been vaccinated in fifteen years.

I don't know if it's because like because that's whenever I started kind of waking up to the reality around me.

I mean, aside from that drink that'll help too.

I don't drink flooride.

I mean I brush my teeth good.

I brush my teeth with a you know, water in a tooth rush.

But but yeah, man, I just started I just question things because there's been a lot of things that make me question that.

I had a friend who was having a birthday party.

Well he was I'm sorry, my brother was having a birthday party.

He was at the birthday party and he had a near death experience.

And he was telling me that all about the near death experience, and I was telling him I know a lot about near death experiences, and he was basically he got really emotional.

He was happy that there was somebody who could hear him out.

And because he didn't tell his family, because his family wouldn't understand that.

Well, we started joking, because we're a very joky group of guys.

We were drinking beer and just joking around, and he grabbed this, like he tried to break the tension from crying and getting upset with a joke.

So he grabbed this spoon, this giant spoon for a potato stal and he scooped the big old scoop of it.

He like did this motion where he came at my face and it was like a three D motion and it weirded me out do where I was like, oh my god, what was that?

And like I flinched and I kind of squint in my eyes and I didn't want to see it again.

And he tried to do it again jokingly and I said, no, no, man, please don't do that.

That was weird.

And he was like, what are you talking about?

And I was like, let me show you.

I'll do the same thing to you and you see what you think about it.

And it was like a three D motion where you kind of come down, you start low and you come up, and I did that same motion to him, and I swear it was like he turned into some sort of a Manchurian candidate for about fifteen seconds, dude, and he was just saying weird things, and he's like pointing out the TV, saying like weird things at the TV and all this stuff.

And then he kind of like drifted back to his normal self and he was like, I said that was weird, right, And he goes, what was that?

And I was like, I don't know, but you went to a different place wherever, whatever that was.

And so I think that there's a we're very it's a very fragile universe we live in, like something is.

There's there's a very thin veil that's between us and the spiritual world.

And I'm and that kind of that kind of worries me.

It makes me feel like we're in like you know Plato's allegory of the cave right where he's talking about how prisoners are chained inside of a cave.

They're facing a wall, and you know, behind them is a fire, and between the fire and the prisoners are people holding up puppet puppets, and you know, the prisoners or they sort of they see their shadows on the wall and they believe that those shadows are reality.

Well, there's a guy who leaves the cave and he goes back in to try to tell everybody he sees the world outside, and he tries to go back in and tell everybody, hey, there's a there's a whole world out here.

You got to see it.

And he tries to unchain them, and they get really mad and they don't want to wake up from that reality because that's all they've ever known was the puppets on the wall were real.

They were you know, some sort of a I don't know, And that's kind of how I see it, man, Like we're in this like projection from a different reality, a two D reality, into this three D reality.

And when you start to kind of wake up to the shadows on the wall, to the puppets on the wall, you know, and then you're like, hey, there's a sort there's a light shining back here.

That's you know, showing the puppets on the wall.

People people don't want to wake up to that.

They don't want to wake up to that reality.

And I don't think it's okay for everybody to wake up.

I think that maybe there's some people who should be sort of asleep if I don't, because I don't think that it's probably a good thing that everybody wake up to what's going on.

I think it's a way of sort of enlightening or becoming more enlightened and you know, vibrating to a higher version of yourself.

And I think that might be the whole point of why we're here, right we're in we're here to learn how to love.

And that's what my buddy Mark was saying, who had the near death experience, Like I asked him, I said, what did you get?

What was your takeaway?

And he said, well, the whole point is that we're here to learn how to love.

And so if there's a mission for us, if there's a goal there's a purpose for us being here in this holographic reality, you know, to learn how to love.

Then maybe it's everybody else's journey just takes them a little bit longer, and there's certain things that they have to learn first before they can wake up.

But anyways, I know you had a near death experience, right, and it was something that's true.

Dude, I did.

And I was just gonna comment on a couple of things that you said though real fast here is like, like you're saying, I don't think everybody's meant to wake up the same way we are, uh, And I think that that is important because I don't think everybody's in the same place and their journey, right, And so as far as uh, what I mean by that is like, dude, I don't know how many lifetimes we get, but it feels like an infinite amount.

I don't even know if there's an end.

Uh.

Like I was a big nerd.

I used to read a lot of this, uh, this book called the Wheel of Time, or like if you listen to the Dark Tower series, how it just starts over and over.

I don't know.

I like, history doesn't repeat, but it rhymes and and I think that that's true, and that there are different types of uh, like archetypes and different stories and patterns that will always that will return to and there are archetypes like like to me, the devil is very real, so or his demons and everything else.

But it's almost like, uh, who are they at this time?

Like it's kind of scary to you how thin this veil is or how manipulatable this world that we are in.

I maybe it's my low iq Uh.

I get excited about that.

I should maybe have more reverence and fear for it.

I enjoy that.

I think it's a fantastic thing.

And you just have to kind of learn the rules of this weird realm.

And I think for me at least, uh, and part of being a radical weirdo Christian Pentecostal was I was like taught how to protect myself before I was thrown into the deep end right, And I think that's part of like teaching your kids to like cast out demons, tell them to get behind you in the name of Jesus uh, and to like there's this weird protect protection I feel that I have over me, And maybe that's uh, maybe that's uh, you know, hopium but no.

I feel the same way.

That's why I bought this crosswas I don't normally wear necklaces.

I'm not really much of a jewelry person.

But I do think that there is power in the name of Christ, and that you pray over the protection of that light bubble, over your family, over yourself, and you will be protected.

And my daughter was asking me about that, and I was telling her, I said, I think this cross will protect me, and she said, can I have one?

I was like, of course, you know, of course, I'll get you across the necklace.

So but yeah, I do feel that way, man.

And don't worry about going all over the place.

Man, I'm all always all over the place as well.

But you also had a near death experience, you said, right before we started to show, you were telling me about that one day over a text message.

I believe, And was that something you learned when you had a near death experience.

That we're all here to sort of learn how to love.

And if you look at love as a vibration, love is a high vibration, and you will Literally a higher vibration is lighter, like you will.

It takes more light and more energy to create light.

At a vibration of love.

So is that kind of one thing you learned as well?

Was that we're all here to learn how to love.

It's like a school of some sort.

Uh.

You know, it's interesting, man.

I definitely had a lot of things that I learned, and I think that was part of it.

But I will say for sure, the flashback of your life and the important things that come up in your mind, and the time, the way that like one second equals five minutes when you're in the middle of this.

Like, I know, all of those things are cliches, but they were all absolutely real.

All of that is absolutely bizarre.

So I guess I can tell that story real fast.

If you want to carry please do of course.

So I was probably about eighteen years old, somewhere around there, you know, somewhere eighteen to twenty ish, and I was a chef and a drunk and degenerate, and you know, as young people are or not everybody, some people are blessed.

But I was definitely the degenerate, so you know, and I was I had a friend living with me.

He was also one of the best cooks I ever worked with.

Fast, awesome, good dude, wet back his name was Oscar, and he smelled like a rubber tire and just this crazy, old salty man, a brilliant, feisty, mean but like the guy that you want beside you in a kitchen, right, that's the dude.

That guy is a fucking badass.

And we had this we're I think we were like smoking a little pot, drinking a little bit, and we were watching like South Park, and I was like, dude, let's go get taco Bell.

He's like, hell, yeah, dude, let's go.

So it's like two in the morning.

I think we probably closed out a bar.

We like came home, watched some South Park, and then we went off to go get some taco Bell and we're driving and he starts kind of driving a little funny, and I look at him and he just kind of has this weird look on his face.

And then he jumps a curb and like almost hits an electric and then somehow veers back into the road and I just look at him and I'm like, dude, you fucking dick, cut it out.

It's like that was funny, Don't do that again.

And then he goes straight for a fucking fence, and I'm like, what the fuck are you doing, dude.

I look over and that weird face is now going like this, and he's having like a Grandma seizure, and I'm like, oh shit, And now his foot is planted on the gas and we're going right into like you definitely don't know California, but there is a big highway and it's an interstate highway.

It's called one oh one.

It's like on the coast.

It's busy twenty four hours a day.

It goes up from Canada to Mexico, this giant fucking highway.

And we're going straight towards it.

And his foot is now planted on the gas.

And we were going twenty.

Now we're going thirty.

Now we're going forty.

Now we're going fifty, and so we're just accelerating like this.

Luckily, he was an old shitty car so it wasn't accelerating too fast.

It's an old four turush and we're just going, dude, and I'm watching and again, now what I'm telling you is like every second is now like minutes.

So I'm like, it's almost like you paused.

It feels like you're in the matrix and you can see rain drops, you know, what I mean.

And I'm sitting there, I'm like, Okay, I've got some decisions to make here, what do I do?

So, like, what do I have?

I try to pull on his leg.

Not gonna do nothing, dude, his leg is planted, his foot is planted.

Okay, So I tried to jam the car into park.

Didn't do shit, Like I'm trying to like, fuck with it.

All I have now is the steering wheel, so I can control where we're going.

But that's it.

And I start having fantasy, like I start thinking about my child.

So at this point, my son was probably maybe a year old, and I'm thinking about every memory that I have with him, and I'm thinking like I'm going to be I'm going to die and my child's not gonna know me because my father had just died.

My father just died and he was a heroin attic kind of a piece of shit, was never really there for me.

And I was like, Okay, I'm doing the exact same thing to my child right now.

He's gonna grow up not knowing me.

And I had these like this whole thoughts ideas, like every memory of changing his diaper, like holding him for the first time, all of these memories just rushing through my head.

And and we're just going straight into a highway, dude, and I can see like semi truck's on and so now we're playing Frogger, right, and and I can just going into this thing.

And so I dodged somehow some cars like this, and we go straight into a nice parking lot.

And actually I looked this up the last time I told the show.

We looked up it's called Bob's Fine Cars, so people can find that in Eureka, California.

And we're going straight at this wall now, and so I somehow it was like I didn't hit any cars.

I don't think.

But we were going straight at this wall, and part of it was a garage door and the rest of it was cement.

And I was like, I think the garage door is gonna hurt less.

And I was like, all right, And I made right with God.

I had time to sit there and have a conversation with Jesus.

I had, I said, watch over my son.

We had like I had made peace with my death.

I made peace with the life that I had lived.

And I had this conversation, this like psychic communication with my child.

And then and then all of a sudden, time speeds up again.

All of a sudden, you're there.

And I turned into the garage door instead of hitting the wall, and that's probably what saved my life.

And we smashed into this garage door, and we pinned the car underneath this huge This person had a giant boat, dude, and we went underneath the trailer.

So we lifted up the boat and it slowed us down and smashed the the boat through the back wall and just destroyed this building, destroyed his beautiful boat.

And the car caught on fire and was smoking, and I thought it was gonna blow up like the movies.

So I like got up.

I thought my collar bone was broken, and I got up and I grabbed him.

He's still having a seizure.

I pull him out, and I'm waiting for the big epic Hollywood explosion that didn't come.

That's as close as I've ever had to a near death experience.

And besides getting blood out, blood alcohol poisoned like three times, having had my stomach pumped in high school.

But well, man, this is reality is fragile.

I mean, first of all, I'm glad you guys made it through that.

I'm assuming your friend made it right.

He was just fine, dude, He was totally fine.

He was probably he probably it was like nothing happened to me.

He was probably in a different world.

But you I had this week.

Twice this week, I rescued two babies in two separate occasions.

And for me, man, it just is weird because I've been a part of so many been the first on the scene of so many accidents.

I can't mean, it always seems like I'm in the middle of these sort of situations.

Like the woman flipped her car three or four days ago, and I got up there and opened the door.

Me and this other guy.

We opened the door because she was upside down, and she started saying her baby was in the bag, and was like, Okay, I definitely don't want to see a mangled baby.

This is gonna be oh my god, it's gonna be terrifying.

But I opened the door and thank god, the baby was okay.

You know.

Another guy like crawled up in there and got him out.

And then after that, there was so much energy coming through right this whole experience.

Everybody was just happy and elated and sort of crying, and there was a man praising God and saying thank you Jesus and all this stuff.

So it was definitely an energetic you know, the presence of God was there for sure.

We could feel that, right.

And then the other day, man, I just saw a baby, like two days later, I saw a baby walking out her house.

Just she was like one and a half maybe years old, and she was just walking down the street by herself, and she was about to walk into the main road and across the road and made sure she got back in her house and her her granddad had just stepped away for a second.

But it's hard to explain those like how am I always in position to be the one that makes something happen?

And there's so many of those stories, probably ten of them that are similar that you know, again, I'm not a hero.

I'm just saying that I'm in a situation, you know, to be the first one seeing to make something happen.

There's people standing around, nobody's doing anything.

Brad, I would argue that you are a hero and that God has given you a different uh decade, what's the what's the word that I'm looking for.

He's given you a different hand than me, uh, And I think that you are a hero, Brad, I think that maybe that's what you're supposed to be doing here.

Uh, the I've never been that's never none of that has ever happened in my life.

I've never been put in a situation like that, and you've been handed several you have main care energy.

That's kind of what I'm saying.

That's what I'm saying that it doesn't make any sense.

Well, you do too, right, I mean, because you're out there creating your own a new reality for yourself.

You're not just you're forging a new.

Path you got Yeah, dude, that's the fun thing, right, And I think that's what that if, if nothing else, a takeaway for everybody that's listening to this.

As Brad was saying that this world is so fragile, maybe is what you're saying.

Uh, But I'm also saying that, like, look the video game.

The controllers right there, and if you want to be a main, main character, get on there and start playing around with the controls.

You're it''s gonna be weird at first.

You're not gonna be like, ah, this feels weird.

The controller feels uncomfortable in my hand.

I mean, I have to press this button, and then this button, and then you start going oh up down left right, oh updown left right, LB what whatever the fuck it is?

Grab that controller.

You can be a main character too, unless you're really PC.

But I don't think you would have found this show if you were.

So everyone that's listening to this right now, this is your call to adventure, This is your mystical call to adventure right now.

Be the main character in this weird simulation that we're discussing right now, dude.

That's that's all I'm saying.

And I know I've went on a Bilbo bag In's journey to explain all that, but I do feel that way.

I do feel like there is a reality that if if you don't take hold of the reins, then you know, everything else will just pass you by.

Right.

It's like, uh, you know, like there's a there's a Bible verse about it being the vessel for God and dudem is so real once you once you open up your heart to God and you just literally go with the flow of life.

I'm not talking about like it's it's easier for me to say because I have a wife who makes good money, and I take more chances because of that.

To be honest with you, I can take more chances because we are comfortable in that regard.

So I understand that there are a lot of people who can't.

Right.

But when you open yourself up to the possibility that there is this world around you, that there is a holy spirit that flows through everybody that you can access, that you can.

But as long as it's for the good for the betterment of everyone else, that you can do pretty much anything you want to do.

And once you get on that path, it's like weird because these little side quests open up all the time for you.

Like I was just talking about with the two babies in one week.

As a matter of fact, When I told my wife that, she's like, she doesn't even comprehend that.

She's like, what is that?

What blow in my mind?

Dude, this makes sense to me.

Either.

Another I give you, dude, I give you another example.

I've only been doing this for a little bit over a year.

I drove up to Tennessee and met with Tony Merkle, and I was like trying to tell him about all about the thirty third parallel, was trying to be secretive about it.

I was like, I don't want to be on the show.

I don't want to do anything.

I just want to tell you about it so you can talk about it on your show.

And he's like, well, why don't you come on?

So we talked about for about four or five months and ended up he said, well, once you come on the show, he convinced me to drive up.

I said, okay.

At that time, I didn't really have a podcast, but so his podcast was the first podcast I'd ever been on, and I was trying to talk about thirty third Parallel on there.

So in between when it aired and before I did my first episode, well, it was kind of a It was kind of a great air because I'd already had a couple of people on, including my buddy Mark, who had the near death experience that was like episode two.

So I just had to get something out there because I didn't want people to think that I didn't do anything right, because I wanted to point people to my website and all that stuff.

So I ended up creating a website and all the other stuff, and I wasn't really planning on doing a podcast after that, to be honest with you, And then I got a phone call from the actor John voight again, how can that happen?

And so like, when it's improbable as it sounds.

I went to Semi Valley in California in two thousand and nine.

I befriended him, exchanged some emails with him.

At an event at the Reagan Library, he was we met Nancy Reagan together.

I took a picture of him and I sent it to him.

And that's how Naze Reagan supposedly gives world kid class low jobs anyway, and it's too bad if you did not get to experience, well.

It would have been very gummy because she was very fragile and very old, but she was a very nice lady man.

And I send him the pictures.

We email back and forth for a few weeks after that, and then I happened upon his email about January of twenty twenty four, and I sent him an email and I said, Hey, just wanted to say hope everything's going well because I heard he has some something going on right and just letting you know, if you ever need anything, you know, send me an email.

And he replied to me immediately and he was like, Hey, I'm just you know, that's great to hear from me.

Blah, blah blah.

And then a couple of weeks later, he called me out of the blue and I'm like what He said, Hey, this is John Boyce.

I said, what so mong story short.

He was telling me about the story of his encounter with God, he heard God's voice, and then we talked for about forty five minutes on the phone and he was just and I was telling him.

I was like, I really don't know if I should start doing this podcast, and he's like, you should take this as a sign and all this other stuff.

What world in what world does that happen?

Right?

Is Sean Boyd still alive?

Or yeah?

So I think have you tried to try to get him on the show?

Or yeah?

I did, as a matter of fact.

Matter of fact, I told him, I said, would you ever be willing to come on the show?

And he said of course.

And then I reached out to him and he emailed me back and said, hey, thanks for the email.

Uh, he's been he was busy because he was doing some other stuff.

This was around I mean the election time, frankly, you know, and and he said he'd get back to me, but I don't want to.

I don't want to bug him.

Too much.

There was another guy, Dean Kane Superman was I'm trying I've been trying to I've been talking back and forth on the email with him and he keeps saying yeah, and then we just never, you know, reconnect and try to get it going because like he's filming movies and all this other stuff.

But again, dude, I'm from a trailer park in the country in South Carolina, right.

I grew up and then I moved out to a dirt road, grew up down a dirt road, lived in a double wide trailer.

It the most country way you could possibly live.

And so to have all these things happened to me in my life is very improbable, is the whole point of that?

And did you are Forrest Gump?

What do you want where the gap?

That's the archetype that you're embodied.

No, But it's like I think what happened though, was at some point in my military career I started realizing that the world is out there for you to go and experience and do things that you would never do in a million years.

It's like Blue Shirt Guy from Free Guy, right when he starts waking up and he puts the shades on and uh, you know, he's he's in a video He's AI in a video game, and he puts the shades on and he's like, oh, this is all around me.

This is kind of That's kind of how I feel about things.

It feels like any one of the most.

Gnostic films to be honest as well.

But yeah, fantastic movie.

Actually I don't watch movies, but for some reason, my wife took me to go see that movie and it was great.

But let me tell you another weird thing.

My neighbor is in that movie.

My neighbor from I used to live in Tampa.

I used to be stationed in Tampa, and when I got out, me and my wife were still living there because she was trying to finish school.

And my neighbor was the six foot six bodybuilder named Aaron Reid, and he was just yo.

He was always walking around with his shirt off and he was just massive, right, And he hurt his neck in WWE, so he stopped wrestling.

But he was good friends with like Bautista and all these guys, and so he and I would hang out every now and then.

We we we went to a strip club one time.

We've done some other thing.

You know, we just hanging out.

Just he came over some spaghetti one night and that kind of stuff.

And then he moves out to Hollywood and I he's got big friends with He's good friends with Ryan Reynolds, and he got put in that movie.

So he was the big buff guy in the movie.

He was the body devil for that, you know, he was the he was basically with they put Ryan.

Right right.

Yeah, he's got a name's like I got it.

It's a slicker.

It's called catchphrase.

Yeah.

So but yeah, man, it's it's weird, like imagine that.

Imagine and I could go on and on about these these different types of stories.

It just seems improbable.

So how is that happening to one person?

You know, it doesn't make any sense.

And the only thing I can think is that I'm being put in position to see things, to experience things, to be able to talk about it.

I saw that the presence of God at that crash site this week with the baby, right, like, you know, the mom and the baby, like all these people were there and everybody came together and it was this beautiful moment.

Man, the color of person that matter, the religion didn't matter, everybody was just happy and excited, and you could feel that love and that Holy spirit flowing through everybody.

It was amazing.

So the fact that I'm being put in positions to talk about this stuff on airs is really interesting to me.

Man, But I didn't mean to keep continue talking.

We can, we can move back towards what you think about this guy.

I want to get back on to exactly what you were saying just now, dude, because to me, this is like a perfect analogy, like the peril the parable of talents.

Right, So to me, why do you keep why do these things keep happening to you?

It's because you're using the talents that God gave you.

There's so many people that just don't take risk, right, the whole parable for everyone that doesn't know this.

Right, So God gave his three Oh it wasn't God, but God told the story right.

So here's a parable.

There was a rich man and he gave three people, his servants a little bit of money.

Right.

So he gave one dude like twenty bucks.

Other dude he gave one thousand dollars.

The other dude he gave ten thousand two.

Right, he leaves, he comes back and he goes to the dude that he gave ten thousand two.

What's up, man, what do you do with the money that I gave you?

And he's like, oh, I well, I took it and I invested it.

I started a business and look now I got one hundred thousand dollars.

God's like, dude, dope, that's awesome.

You did exactly what you're supposed to.

Well done, my good and faithful servant.

Second one, he goes up to him, I gave you a thousand bucks.

What do you do with it?

Goes dude, I worked really hard.

I did this, I did this, I did this, And he goes, now, I have like five grand perfect dude.

Like and so he gives people talents.

He goes to the last one, who, well, you give one hundred dollars to like, he shouldn't have worried about it, he should have invested, he should have done some with it.

It was God, I buried it in a hole in the ground, and here I have it right here for you.

I had it safe.

I didn't do anything with it.

He goes, you piece of shit, right, So, like, it doesn't matter, dude, Maybe you were the one that was given a thousand bucks.

Right because you were born in a trailer park in the middle of nowhere in South Carolina.

Right, But you did something with it.

Dude.

You have been a faithful guy.

You've gotten married, you're having kids, you've started a business, you're taking your What you're doing is like an opportunity sees itself and you seize it and you go, Okay, well fuck it, man, I'll I'll go see Tony Merkle.

Why not, I'm going to go drive down there and talk to him.

Uh, here's Jean Voyd.

I'm going to talk to him.

You take initiative.

Dude, you started a podcast.

You like, if you're out here willing to use the talents that God gave you, he'll give you more.

If you're taking the opportunities that he gives you, he'll give you more.

I think that's a big part of this.

If you do nothing, you're gonna get nothing.

Stupid, Get off your ass and do something.

You want to be a main point.

You want to be a main character.

Put off some main character energy, Go do something, Get off your fat ass.

Let's go.

Yeah.

I don't disagree, man, I don't feel like I'm special in any way.

I just want to make sure that everyone knows that.

But I do.

I do believe in what you're.

Saying, Brad, cut it out, embrace it.

But seriously, man, it just feels like you know, I mentioned like this almost like this precognition or maybe even this ability to remote view, and I think that we're sort of connected on this neural network of a giant brain, you know, like and that giant brain is sort of some That's why again people look at it as like a holographic reality.

If you think about like a hologram, a hologram is a fractal or let me, let me it says.

A hologram is a three D image created about light, but it's not solid.

Is made from patterns of interference, which are like light waves over overlapping each other.

So essentially you're you're part of a hole, is what I'm saying.

You're like a fractal of that hole.

So do you think that we'd do you think it's like a projection, like I said, where it's like it's being projected like a non locally to this local reality that we live in.

I don't know, man, So it depends on how skits.

So I am in the day, right, So like, I love this meme that there is.

It's You're at the Garden of Eden, right, and it's Adam and Eve and they're sitting there and they're talking to the serpent, and there's a tree and then you kind of see a hand that's underneath, and you see that, like the tree is God, Adam's god, Eve's God, the serpent's god, the fruit's god, the planet's god, all of these things, and it's all his simulation, and it's all a piece of him.

That's all just kind of and like, so some people talk about like a greater the Creator and not necessarily like the usurper, but like the Creator that is this uh something, this collective consciousness, this uh something source, right, that every single thing came from.

And so sometimes I'll go down that schizo rabbit hole that I think that we're every single we're just a little teeny little coochair of the Creator on this little ball that doesn't matter.

Okay, I'm sorry I might have offended people on this flat place.

Uh some people get really upset.

And I said a ball, So never mind, it's a flat whatever you want it to be.

That's what I said.

It is so uh, if this is a flat place, then then it's a flat place.

But uh it to me, it it could be, dude, and that this is all just kind of like a a dream of a powerful being that wanted to experience absolutely everything, and that is what the simulation is.

And that every single thing that ever possibly could happen like that, to me is the freaky sup It's like the multi dimensional universe that like, uh, in one scenario, I got swallowed, my mom never born ever, you know what I mean, Like, there could be a million different things.

I hit the cement instead of hitting the garage door, and then I died and my son grew up with out a dad who the hell knows.

Dude, I think all of it is fun to play with.

It doesn't feel like this place is real and natural, though, I will tell you that.

So I can't tell you what the simulation is, but I will tell you it feels like we are in somebody's video game.

But this video game is interesting because I don't think that it's predictable at least, Like I kind of Okay, I'm stupid, but I kind of still believe in free will, that we are given free will, and some people like, you know, the Calvinists will start yelling at right now whatever, fuck you.

But yes, I do think that none of this is decided yet.

I think that that is part of the simulation.

That it's a chaotic, beautiful, weird simulation that we are giving autonomy to it, kind of make our own way in this your video game.

So it's kind of like it's we're in living in the biggest thing at Grand Theft Auto.

Now.

I'm not encouraging people to go shoot people because they're not real, because we're all in some simulations.

See, that's the that's the fucking weird rabbit hole that you can go down to.

You're like, well, if not, if it's really anyway, what you matter, I'm just gonna go wrape somebody and go steal some money.

Yeah, don't do that.

That's not what I'm saying.

No, for sure.

Man, you said while I go.

You know something that I always think about is like matter, right, you said that doesn't matter.

Whenever I think about matter, whenever when someone says the word matter, like that doesn't matter.

That means that you're not giving it enough energy to materialize.

To me, that's what That's what mattered me.

And when it said so, the only time anything will ever materialize is when you give it enough energy to build matter.

And what is energy energy is consciousness.

And you know that's the free will you're talking about.

That's that's God's breath.

So, like, imagine a flat sheet what they call the quantum field, and it's just like a like I've given this analogy before, like a giant American flag at a football game.

You know how everybody's holding the flag and it's not until everybody starts shaking it that it starts making those waves.

Right.

So, so the reality around us is this or that that unified field that you that all that stuff that connects, the quantum field that connects us, that collective consciousness, whatever word you want to use for Holy Spirit, it's always there.

All we have to do is shake the flag, to shake the cover, to shake the field, and we will get some form of an outcome from it.

And I think there's a negative vert there's an inverse to that as well, and that's where the demon realm comes in.

And that's WHEREY and I call that.

I call that world the anti matter, right, because it's the up Like if you look at the frequency of a wavelength, it usually looks like a hill.

Well underneath that hill is what would be like antimatter.

So yeah, I just think that if you want to give if you want anything to materialize, you have to give it energy in order to materialize it, which is start, which it can be.

It can be something as simple as your attention, your focus.

Yeah, and you're yeah, your intentionality.

I'll give you a bizarre example right now.

So I have had the same sort of weird uh Synchronicity's happened in my life all the fucking time, dude, and it and it always adds up.

And God has always kind of given me a choice, Like he makes it really plain and simple.

He goes, hey, look, you're kind of at a fork in the road right now, and if you go this way, this is what's gonna happen.

And if you don't have the courage to stand up and do the right thing, and then this is what's gonna happen.

And so many times I've taken the wrong path.

I was like, yeah, God, but that would be really awkward.

I would feel really stupid about doing that, Like I would have to like confront this person, tell this person.

I would have to change, make this giant change in my life.

It were like, and then he's like, it's fine, I love you, it's you're good.

But this is gonna be the consequence of that.

And I've made those choices before.

But anyways, like I'll give you an example of something.

This is really nothing.

This not Fork in the Road material at all.

I'm at a little festival down the road and I'm with my son and there's this guy and he has this weird poker game kind of.

He's got a roulette table, right, and he has all these different little prizes and he has a couple of like D and D dices, so that twenty edged you know what I'm talking about, the real random.

And there is again, all of these prizes sitting there, and there's this one rock that I want and it's like an obelisk or not.

I don't even know how to explain it, but it's it's like in a spearhead and it's black and it's obsidian and it has a chunk of fossil in it, and it's definitely the prize out of everything that's on that thing, right, Like he has some cool shit all over there.

But that's what everybody wants and I even stated it is like I want that, and he's like, roll the dice and I did.

It was damn right there and I took it.

He was so upset.

I saw the look at the guy's eyeses, like, God damn it.

That was like the grand prize.

Nobody's supposed to win that on the table.

Like I don't know if you ever watched a red like Hearts in Atlantis?

Are you familiar with that in Stephen King novel?

But there's this like when Bobby gets the number right, he basically he starts being able to read because he touched ed, and he starts getting some of that psychic number.

He starts to be able to tell when where that card is gonna go right that card shark that gets really upset.

I kind of felt like I was Bobby for a minute and I was like, I fucking played the game.

It was like, it's that one.

I'm choosing it.

That's the one I'm gonna get.

Here's the twenty side, fucking die boom, It's mine, thank you, And that dude was pissed.

But what I'm saying is reality is fungible.

You can play with it.

You have to believe it.

You have to be almost psychotically ridiculously like Brad.

You keep having this thing where you're like, well, but I'm not, like, don't think that I think that about myself.

Cut it out, dude.

You are a guy.

You can be a hero.

But I'm not saying to be boastful and be like.

What I'm saying is embrace that archetype that God has given you at maybe it's just for this time, this season in your life.

Be that guy.

If I had saved two babies in the last month or something, I'd probably be embracing that part in me right now.

So this is a this is a good little uh smack to your face right now.

So Matthew, I pulled up Matthew thirteen, verse fourteen through sixteen.

It says you will be ever hearing but never understanding.

You will be ever seeing, but never perceiving.

For this people's heart.

For this people's heart has become callous.

They hardly hear with their ears, and they have closed their eyes.

Otherwise they might see with their eyes, hear with their ears, understand with their hearts, and turn and I would heal them.

But bless your eyes, because they see in your ears because they hear.

And how I take that to mean is just what we're talking about.

You you're ever seeing but never you know, you know, never really understanding.

Right, You're never You're always hearing, but never understanding.

You're always seeing but never perceiving.

I think that's exactly it.

If you're just asleep to the world around you, you will never experience that.

But when you wake up to the world around you and you open your heart and you open your mind to that.

You know you talked about going to church, right, I mean you get you see that in church, You see that at your church, you see that with your near death experience, didn't you have some kind of a experience where you saw a woman's arm like regrow or something like that.

Yeah, So we can get into that if you want.

Uh sure, so again, so let me let me get the audience up to speed as far as this goes.

So, what I'm saying is like, uh, not everything is free.

The world isn't.

Like.

I'm not saying that this is a perfect, weird place that you can just do anything you want.

What I am saying is there are things that you can do and intentionality and knowing maybe also intention is important because like I don't know, I mean, I think it also works for the psychopaths of this universe.

I think that like someone like Hillary Clinton goes I want that I want this powerful thing, and I think that maybe you give up a piece of your humanity if you are after something for the wrong reasons.

I don't know.

Or maybe the cheat codes work for everybody, and that's that's like the club.

You know, it's a big club, and you ain't in it.

These people are understand the games, and maybe they pass down cheat sheets with each other and you have to do these weird little rituals to become part of their weird psycho club.

But this is what I'm saying, is that one person that is awake and does decide to make a conscious change in their life is beyond powerful.

So when you have several people all in one place, and it says that in the Bible, when two or three are gathered in my name, there I am in the to them.

And so when you have multiple people that are all there for the same reason, you're all there with the same idea, the thought, the prayer miracles can happen.

I'm sorry that the Southern Baptist Church doesn't think so, but I'm telling you it does that, it can and will.

Yeah, we just don't.

We just see it differently.

They don't.

They don't put it into practice, you know.

I mean they're not trying to, like, you know, heal people and stuff like that, but I think they But the power of prayer, on the other hand, can heal, can connect, can mend bones, and you know, regrow limbs and things like that.

I think that's thearily.

That's what people do believe in.

You know, this is this is a story that I'll tell you.

So this again, I believe this was in like a tent revival.

This was I was a young man.

I was probably less less than ten for sure.

So I'm anywhere from six to eight around here right now, and we are going to again one of these tent revivals where the Holy Spirit been very active.

Uh.

People are on the ground crying and praying and laughing and having the time of their lives.

Like, uh, I'm sorry you had a bad experience with Was that your mother in love, did you say, or your aunts or somebody that was anyways, Uh, these guys were having fun though you said you knew somebody that didn't have a good time or anyways, it doesn't matter.

No, I was saying, my girlfriend's my girlfriends.

Yeah yeah, there you go.

Okay, yeah, these guys were all having a blast.

So we're having a blast.

And uh, there's a lady at the at the church and like these are the weird miracles that like again, like I said, we're just expected, and so this is maybe it gives you a different mindset when you're a child, and this is like it's not only uh possible, but like in the name of Jesus means something, and you expect miracles to happen, you know it.

And this woman came in and she had like a shrimpy arm, like I'm trying to be gentle here.

She had a very disfigured, smaller appendage than the other one, one bad one, one good one.

I believe it was her left because I remember praying for it.

And so we sit there and we lay hands on this woman and we start like just calling this limb healed in the name of Jesus, and it's it's about actually like it's so maybe this is like a magical incantation.

So people don't like to talk about magic and things like that, but you say it in a way that it's already done, it happened.

You're not saying, please make this happen.

You're saying, I thank you that this happened.

I thank you that this reality.

Now we are this, this is here, this has happened already.

So you're and we just sit there and we're praying, and her arm just starts moving and it just starts pulling out like it's a slinky.

I don't know how to explain it.

I'm sitting there watching this and her arm regenerates.

We are saying, in the name of Jesus that like the muscles I'm talking about, like every single sell in her body is being brought to its perfect Like we're sitting there praying for the tendons, We're sitting there praying for the connective tissue.

We're sitting there praying that the bones, every single part of her body is growing, regenerating, being made whole in the name of Jesus.

And it's being made whole in the name of Jesus.

And she was given a fully formed arm after that.

I don't know how to explain it.

I don't have I don't have a I don't know how else to explain what happened.

Besides that happened.

It's like psychokinesis almost where your consciousness affects, you know, a physical reality.

It's very strange.

I mean, I'm not saying as strange that it happened.

It's like I believe that those things can happen if you pray with the intention that it already happened.

Like you said, it's very important to because you've got to feel that feeling come over you, you know, in that and so it seems like everybody there.

That little wobble you were getting with your buddy, you have to suck that in, gotcha.

But this is terrifying to know that because I mean, I don't want anything to possess my body right except love and life and Christ is.

But that's what it is.

So for me, why that's not scary is because I made a very direct like the only thing that I will allow into me is Jesus.

So if it's anything else, it's not allowed.

I like Jesus is holding that door.

He like he's already here, and so I'll embrace him and I will exhorb his holy spirit.

And like you, but you have to be very conscious about that, because yes, you don't want to allow in something that isn't supposed to be there.

I don't I don't know how to explain that better than just like you put Jesus in charge of that door that opens.

I'm just gonna say, bodyguard the front of the front door like a club letting them in.

You know, Yeah, I got that, I got you.

Yeah.

I think that's important, man.

Yeah, your intention behind everything is very important.

Obviously, you know, you don't want to have you don't want to willingly just let anything in.

So yeah, that makes sense.

But I'm just saying that, like you know, and I talked about it on Temple Hat where you hold your hand up and you catch the Holy Spirit.

That's what they call it in the South, you catch the Holy Spirit.

Because it feels like when you do that, that holding your hand up, you're you're saying the door is open.

Anything can come in.

And if there's a spiritual world out there, then anything can come in.

I mean, And that's kind of what I'm saying, Like, maybe there were people who there who were, you know, feeling the presence of God and love and light, and maybe there were people who were who were experienced some sort of a negative entity, because it's like when something possesses some when you see something that looks possessed, or someone that looks possessed.

I've never seen it up close, but I'm saying like a drug addict or someone who's very like an alcoholic.

When you see someone that's drunk, you know, you see that in them.

You see like the possession, Like the demon can't control that body.

It's having a tough time with the avatar, right, it's having a tough time steering it in whatever directly.

It looks uncomfortable for them.

They don't know how to operate the body.

I guess.

So yeah, I would imagine your intention behind everything matters more than anything, like what you let in, who you let in.

You gotta let Christ in your heart.

You can't let the you can't let the vampires in your house.

Everything's about consent.

You got to consent.

Everything is about consent, dude.

And I think again, like I said, when I was very young, all of that was made very clear what you allow into yourself and what you don't, and the protections that you kind of make around your heart.

And so maybe I think that I got lucky dude, because I know there are people that have allowed things in and they regretted it.

Yeah, no, I totally do.

I get it.

I was listening, in fact, to one of Tony Merkle's episodes one day and I just happened to be It was an episode where a preacher was on talking to him, and the preacher was saying, you have to tell the demons to get out of your body.

And I was like, oh, that's interesting.

So I paused it, and then I told I said it, very loudly, get out of my body and affirmatively, and my body vibrated it this and then I was like, WHOA, that was pretty weird.

So I did it again.

It went even louder.

I did it even longer and harder, and the vibration was louder and harder.

I mean it was longer and harder.

So pretty clearly that I was getting something, some some sort of a negative energy out of my body because my body was vibrating.

Now, whenever I create things, I'm a web designer, I'm a photographer.

There have been times whenever I'm creating something, I'm making the website, and if I do something that looks good or it feels right.

I also get that same vibration, but in a in a nicer way, if that makes any sense.

It's like a it's almost as if an angel or the Holy Spirit takes the hand of God and just runs it through my body as if like, yes, that was it.

That was exactly what I mean.

And you get them too, like you said, with the synchronicities.

But those those feelings whenever I whenever something connects, whenever something is exactly how it's supposed to be, or I'm supposed to see something or do something, you get those synchronicities.

And I think that that positive vibration.

Every time I try to explain that to somebody, nobody understands what I'm talking about.

And I'm starting to think that maybe it's because of the unique ability to pilot the kind you know, you know, pilot this this life or driver navigate this life the way you should navigate this life.

Because good, oh well, one thing that I wanted to that I wanted to say so as much as I had just told you guys like hey, you want that weird thing, say it and roll the dice and take it.

I think that God lets you do things like that when it doesn't matter.

But I think that, like, honestly, something that I found very important in my life is that there is a flow.

God does have a plan, and when you start going against his plan, you start to feel your body is now moving upstream and now you're having to fight, You're having to like push upstream.

If you are going with God's plans, dude, it feels like you just jumped on a wrath and you're just.

Going exactly I say, as I say a surfboard.

I usually use the analogy of a surfboard.

But yeah, I'm lazier, I'm Mexican.

Raft to get on over here.

Yes, So, But what I'm saying is that there was a time in my life and this is when I actually met my wife.

This is when I did think and I maybe need to get back to this.

I was having prayers in regular conversation with God where I said, this was like an intentional time in my life where I said, I am practicing radical obedience.

What you want me to do, I will do.

Where you want me to go, I will go.

What you want me to say, I will say.

And it opened up these bizarre opportunities in my life in the in these weird scenarios, in these met bizarre, interesting people, changed the direction of my life in so many different ways.

If I hadn't done this, I wouldn't have met my wife, I wouldn't have I wouldn't have had my second child.

I like, everything in my life changed because I decided to do this and I met like so God told me specifically, there was this homeless man that I saw with bright red hair, and he had this crazy mohawk, and he was missing an arm, and he had this interesting look on his face and he was very intense.

And God told me to pull over and give that man every single dollar that you have in your wallet.

And I was like, God, I don't want to do that.

Like I wasn't making good money, but I was, you know, I was kind of poor, but I needed that money.

I'm like, whatever, whatever, guy, I'm just gonna keep going.

And he's like, I fucking told you.

Turn the fucking car around.

I said, go give that man the money.

Jesus.

I sit there, I turn around, I go find him.

I give him all the money out of my pocket and he's like, tell him that I love him.

And I was like, you know that, Jesus, loves you, and he goes, yeah, I know Jesus, Yeah, I know Jesus loves it.

And so then we sat there and had this like long conversation.

I started like I I So I found where he lives, and so I started to go and visit him every week.

We started having Bible studies, I started taking him to church.

We I don't want to say I like brought this man back to Christ, but I kind of did in a way.

I like I saved his soul in a weird way.

I didn't Jesus did.

That's that's the other thing, is like like you're doing where you're being very humble and be like, I'm that's a good thing because it's not you when I.

When you're practicing radical obedience, you're allowing yourself to be an avatar.

You're allowed yourself to be an ambassador for Christ.

And I think that's the important part.

I don't change.

I don't understand why that's so that can be construed as like this mysticism and all this other stuff.

And I never understand that because it seems like that's exactly what the Bible's saying, and it seems is exactly what the what Jesus is saying to us, and God is saying to us.

I mean it says it in Ephesians three twenty.

Now to him who is able to do far more abundantly than all that we ask or think, according to the power at work within us.

And you can you can read a million Bible verses, it says, be a not literally a million, but a bunch of Bible verses that talk about being a vessel for God's will.

That's what that is.

Man.

I do the same thing, Nate, I'm telling you it is.

It is one pure hearted I don't look for anything.

I don't want anything out of it.

I just listen and I am obedient to whatever I need to do I need to say.

So let's say this as a God flavored simulation.

He's looking for somebody that's going to take the message.

Right.

It's kind of if you're playing a video game and there's a side quest.

He's looking for the people that are gonna be like, yes, sir, God, I'm on it.

He needs somebody to save that baby, right, was there gonna be somebody that was gonna do it?

What makes you special, Brad?

As you say yes, God, that's what I'm telling people, do you want to be a main player, You want to be a main character, Start accepting all the side quests you're there.

Jesus wants to use you.

Jesus wants to use you for good.

And guess what, You're gonna get an amazing adventure out of it.

You're gonna have wonderful opportunities.

There's rewards for weird side quests, and I'm not saying do it just for rewards, but I'm saying that you will be rewarded.

One hundred percent, man, one hundred percent.

And I heard a I don't remember if it was I don't remember if it was a movie quote or I don't remember if it was Andrew Schultz.

I don't remember what it was.

I heard from it.

It resonated with me.

It was Isaiah six.

And in Isaiah six, Isaiah experiences a vision of God's glory.

And here's the Lord asking him whom shall I send and who will go for us?

As Isaiah, initially overwhelmed by his own sinfulness, responds, here, I am send me, and to me that is to me, that is everything.

Dude, that's power.

There's power in that, because why not me?

You know?

What I mean, like I will, I will go.

I will be that one for anybody, for everybody, So why not me?

But I wish everybody live up getting kind of emotional talking about because it's like why can't it be everybody?

You know, why can't everybody just do willingly jump in?

I mean, there was people standing around that car.

It was flipped over, Like all I could think was like there's seconds to till someone dies, Like what is going to what is going to happen?

And I don't understand why people don't feel that call to even I'm sure most of the people who are standing there watching looking not pulling over.

We're Christians too, or people that say that they're Christians And how could you not live by that?

You know, like Isaiah and just say who will go for us?

That I will send me?

You know what I mean?

You and I are like that, But there's not everybody who's like that, buddy, I'll promise you like and you know, it's just funny, man, It's just funny how that works.

You know.

Again, I'm not trying to be a hero.

You're not trying to be a hero.

But it's amazing you're doing.

God, You're doing God's work when you see that homeless man and you just feeling that you feel called.

I do it so much, man, I do it so much.

I give all the time in the poor and rain.

I'll give my umbrella to whoever.

You know what I mean, Like, I do it all the time, and I do feel like there's a reward in that when you do things like that.

I don't look for it.

I don't seek it out.

But whenever I see something like, I gotta do this, I gotta stop and I gotta get this guy lunch.

I gotta do I gotta give him my money, I gotta do whatever I can to make his life easier.

And something that I want to tell everyone that's sitting there in the audience, neither Brad nor I are perfect people.

I'm a giant hunk of shit.

A lot of times in my life.

God uses imperfect people to do miraculous things.

So if any of you guys listening and saying I'm not worthy to do that, I shouldn't be doing with God like I like, I don't feel like I'm worthy enough to accept that side quest.

Dude, life is a journey, and I'm telling you, dude, you just being the person to accept that side quest means more to God than you realize.

Yeah, it's like a level up.

That's the way you level up.

If this is a video game, if this is a holographic reality or simulated video game or whatever whatever you want to call it, it does feel like that's the only way to level up in life.

And I'm not talking about riches.

I'm not talking about money and jewels and fames and all this other stuff.

I'm just talking about leveling up, where.

Rewards that you get to take with you when you leave this place.

Yeah, and it's it's but also when it comes to material stuff, like God will always prove you with that material thing.

He will always provided you the money you need.

You gave that, man, I heard him.

Matter of fact.

Where I'm going to Brohemian Grove the third installment of it in next weekend June twentieth, for those who are listening, If you want to go, meet me down there and meet Paranoid America and everybody down there.

But the first one I went to, I heard Sam Tripley.

Sam Tripley was there and he was talking.

He was telling this story.

He was telling the joke about giving somebody money or helping him fix their car or something like that.

And then he got back to He didn't have them really the money to do it, but he gave.

He got back to his apartment, and then this miraculously there was another fifteen hundred dollars just popped up or something along those lines.

And that's how it is.

You never go without a single time in my life where I was like hand him out, like dude, people, Okay again, me describing how poor I am does not mean I was third world country poor.

I was a very American poor, but like homeless, dumpster diving poor mother like anyways, you know what I'm saying, Like we were fucking poor for America poor, but no matter what, when we were hungry, there was food whatever.

Like times that like my mother couldn't pay rent, somebody from church would come up to her and just say, God told me to give you this.

I can't tell you how many times that happened.

Or my mother's car broke down.

One of the neighbors didn't know her car was broke down, said hey, God told me to give you my truck.

Dude, I like, I can't explain these things.

So much of my life again.

You can call it synchronicity is whatever you want.

Like when I was supposed to leave California, God told me I was supposed to leave.

And I was living at this place that I was paying like six hundred dollars rent.

Dude, you know, like it had a big backyard, who had like two bead like you're not gonna leave, you know what I mean?

And God was like, no, you're leaving.

And so I was like, all right, fine and so and I'm being obedient and I'm listening to God.

I'm like, okay, let's go.

And then I get a phone call from my landlord saying, oh, we're up in your rent to six hundred sixteen hundred dollars.

So I went up a thousand dollars and it was like there was kind of God saying like it.

It was almost I described the whole idea of like Sodom and Gomora, where where Lot's wife looks back.

You know, you're not supposed to look back.

There's certain times in your life where like it wasn't necessarily that she looked back, as that she was looking back and like reminiscing and missing and loving and kind of craving those that bizarre, sick, twisted like sometimes God's saying like, no, this is where you're going, and he made it really, really fucking clear.

And those are prayers that I have a lot.

Actually, when I talk to God, I'm like God, if like because I just got a job offer.

So for people that don't know that, like I got canned for some of the wild things that I say on the internet because sometimes I say really wild things, and so somebody didn't like in nature, I got my job taken away from me, and that's fine.

And then I just that I was going to try to do this full time, but like and I and I still planning on doing that.

My whole goal is that within two years, the wife and I were going to be living in an RV traveling around the country and we'll be making enough money doing the show and doing a little remote side hustle work that we can just make it happen.

That's our goal.

We're going to sell the house and just fucking live and go to all the different uh like national parks and just live our life like that.

That's what we want to do for a few years, and that's what we are going to do.

But in the meantime, God was like I was having a talk with him and I was like, what do you want me to do?

What do you need me to do right now?

Should I be doing this?

Like?

And then somebody came and talked to me about a job and it was offered to me, and I was like, God, please make this painfully clear, like open the door wide open and kind of push me inside or slam the door shut and hit hit me, hit my face.

I want this to be crystal clear, because I want your way.

I want your plan.

I don't want my way, and I don't want my plan.

My plan is not going to work out the way your plan is.

I want your way, not my way.

And so maybe that is any time you're at a fork in the road situation, whoever's listening to this and you really you don't know what to do, make is say that prayer.

Talk to him and say like, God, make it so painfully obvious what you want me to do.

Put big lights and point arrows and say this way, stupid, go this way.

So I told him like I didn't even want the job because I was like, hey, I'm going to try to make this happen myself.

I'm going to do it myself, and God's like, look, I'm softening the blow here, dummy, Like, yes, keep doing your side hustle work.

This is for you while you're figuring out how to do that.

And I was like, fine, God, all right, well I'm asking for this much and I'm asking for this and this and this, and guess what.

I was waiting for him to say fuck off.

And they went back and they're like, I don't know if we can do that or not.

And then they came back and they're like, all right, so yeah, we can do that.

And also they're a sign on bonus.

Also there's this.

Also there's that other thing that you didn't even know that you were gonna ask for that you wanted.

You know, please follow the big flashing lights when you ask for them.

And also, don't try to fit in a puzzle piece that doesn't fit, because it's gonna hurt, it's gonna be uncomfortable, it's not good, it's not meant for you.

And maybe it's just not meant for you now.

And I know some people like we got in charge of timing, right, and you're like, but I really want that.

Well, God knows the desires of your heart and maybe he has a better Here's the thing is, like you want that, but he's gonna give you a better version that you didn't even know that you needed or wanted.

One hundred percent.

Man, we the other day my wife got mad at me because I was supposed to take the kids to this summer program that they go to and I decided to let him stay home.

And my wife was like, what is that?

And I said, yeah, but if they wouldn't have stayed home, then I wouldn't have stopped at the grocery store to get my daughter a balloon.

And then when we got the balloon, that was when I saved that second girl, little girl from crossing the road.

So everything happens exactly how it's supposed to happen, Like you know, I just literally just go with the flow of things.

If it feels like they need to go to wherever, I will take them wherever.

If it feels like it should happen this way, it should happen that way.

I don't fight against it.

I don't push against anything that's supposed to.

I don't know.

Man, If again, we're all connected in this, like whatever words you want to use for it, this holographic, fractal.

We're just fractals of God the experience in himself or whatever you want to call it.

It does feel like we're part of a bigger identity togetherness, a bigger hologram, if you will.

We're just a little piece of that, you know.

Yeah, I mean I think the whole purpose, though, is to do God's will.

I mean, lived your life, experience to life the way you want to live it.

And there's so many people who are working jobs that they don't want to be in.

You know, they're going to work every single day.

I'm so happy you got blessed with that.

Dude.

I swear I am in and I never have any doubts about that.

I'm always it seems like I'm always low on money.

It seems like I never have money in my account.

But somehow I still can keep the lights on and I can still keep the internet going.

I can still.

It always happens, dude.

It's one of those things too.

Is also be very careful what you're asking for, yes, because I was asking specifically, I was like, God, I'm tired, I'm working these crazy and I was and this is the way I was able to pay for the light that I was living was the goog gob amount of overtime that I was working.

I wasn't getting paid that much an hour, but I was getting paid so much in overtime that it was feasible.

But I was like, God, this is kind of I can't keep doing this forever.

I need a break.

I need a vacation.

And I kept saying that.

I was like, God, I kind of need a vacation coming up.

What do you got for me?

And He's like, I got you, and and dude, it is an interesting thing, dude.

Now this new job, I can only work forty hours a week instead of driving two hours a day was which I was doing to get there and come back.

Uh, it's a twenty minute drive.

And it's yeah, it's only four hours a week, and it's four days a week, and I get three days off in a row.

And uh, God is like, I got you, dude.

So I mean I I always ask, hey, God, can you uh can you put the bumpers on for me?

I think it's very intentional because man, uh sometimes ripping the band aid off can hurt.

But trust in his But trust in him because if you are going by his plans, then Uh, it's for your greater good.

But you know, maybe I should have been saying the weird crazy things I was saying on the line anyway, So maybe let the band aid hurt a little bit.

No, I believe that too, man.

And but that open doors for you that you started some new shows that in that right then you started a couple of other new podcasts that you got going out there.

So you you you're you're doing other things that you probably wanting to do as well, right, I mean, you get more time with family.

You got a little bit more time with family.

That was the biggest thing, dude.

It was me talking to God asking to spend more time with my family, because dude, I have a three year old right now, and it is the best time on the planet right now.

I am his superhero.

All he wants to do is play play fight, beat my ass with a sword, like we have this big place sword and he beats the shit out of me and it heards.

But that's once hanging out with dad twenty four hours a day, this very short, beautiful period of time.

And I'm glad that, even if this was only for a few months, that I got to spend every single day with him and we're having a blast and that the new job isn't starting for another month.

So we got a couple camping trips we got, you know, we got some plans that we're we're going to get to do before dad has back to work.

But well, dude, I'm gonna be doing the same thing, me and my kids.

They are.

I work from home because I have I have my own business, so we're gonna pretty much just go traveling.

We're gonna go different places.

We're gonna explore caves, and we're gonna go to national parks and do stuff.

I'm not gonna sit around here all summer and be locked up in my office or have them playing video games and stuff like that.

But but dude, listen, I'll let you wrap it up because I know you got It's Friday night, and I know you got a lot of recording to do on Friday night.

So thank you for joining me.

Man, if you don't mind letting everyone know one more time where they can find you at, We'll go ahead and land this.

Bird absolutely so you can find us at through reality is ours.

I always give out my email address too, because I'm retarded us.

But if you live within an hour of me.

I always tell my audience I've met probably a couple dozen at this point listeners.

So if you want to go, and I don't drink alcohol right now, I haven't drink and a drop since I got fired, But I'll go have like a taco with you.

We can drink a soda, We'll drink a root beer with you, and it doesn't offend me if you're drinking.

So if you guys want to hang out, if you live within an hour Portland, Oregon, to hit me up at realities Oars gmail dot com and I'll come hang out with you, because that's the psycho.

It just don't turn me into a lampshade.

It hasn't happened yet.

You guys want to talk theory Bigfoot.

That's the other projects that I'm doing right now is a lot of paranormal projects where we do like ghosts hunting.

People ask me, how does that work with Jesus, I don't know.

I don't have a good answer for you.

There are a ghosts dudent.

It's weird whatever what are they?

That's an entirely different question, a different podcast.

If you want ever want to go down that road too, because there are disembodied spirits, there are bizarre things that do communicate with you.

They're intelligent, interdimensional beings is what I'll call them, whatever the heck they are.

So you can go check us out over there.

That's anominally Hunters on Instagram.

We started a new page over there, and we have a YouTube where we done like bigfoot documentaries and ghost hunting documentaries.

We're planning a big one actually this summer.

I think right after the summer.

There is the most unted place in Washington where a ton of people died in this like really horrific train crash, and there's all kinds of disembodied sounds, weird happenings that happen in this one little area.

So we're gonna go and investigate it and check it out.

And bigfoots out there too, so we're gonna be looking for bigfoot and goes at the same time.

So yeah, dude, you can follow us on our rumble.

Like I said, we were kicked off of YouTube for the wild and stupid things that come out of my mouth sometimes, so come follow us on our rumble where we have interesting, fun guests.

We have some really interesting and fun guests that are coming on here pretty soon, so look out for that.

And you're gonna be on Nefhlum Desk Squad in the next I would assume week or two.

We were on Neflim Desk Squad two days ago, so look out for that.

That's on our rumble.

You can watch that.

And we're doing a part two July second, because like, we had a lot of fun we were talking Bigfoot, but like we we ended up just talking about all kinds of crazy stuff, so we got you know, so we're gonna finish up with a part two and we're gonna really nail down like some biblical evidence for Bigfoot, uh weird big Foot, Like we're gonna we're gonna nail it to the wall.

And then yeah, we have some fun interesting ones coming up.

We have Isaac Wishop coming back on the show.

Uh, we have great Carlwood coming on the show.

We have some we have some interesting fun people coming on the show.

Uh.

And Brad, I'd love to have you come back on the show as well.

So uh, people look out for that.

Yeah, come check us out.

We're we're weirdo dude, It's never about the same thing twice.

We'll look forward to all of it.

Man, Yeah, go check him out at Reality is Ours and uh, dude, I've got to plug it to you.

You also have another show where you do what is it murder mysteries and stuff like that, right.

Okay, so yeah, yeah, dude.

We had a lot of projects.

So one is Uh so if you guys want to check out the paranormal stuff, that's the one that I've really been working on a lot.

Actually it's a faceless thing.

Uh but but I'll attach my name to it right now, don't just don't tell my boss.

So this is a it's called uh gosh, all right, cryptid Shadows.

So go follow Crypted Shadows on Instagram, on Facebook for some reason, go follow us on YouTube.

But TikTok is actually kind of blown up.

I started like a week ago.

I have like three hundred followers and like a thousand likes.

So that's cool.

I don't you know, I don't know TikTok or how to use it, but that's going pretty good.

We're making really interesting, like fun videos that I would be interested in watching.

So we're going We're doing deep dives into like ghosts, fairies, bigfoot, weird.

Uh, We're going into the Merivingian bloodline.

We're going into Nephlom.

We're talking about Lilith.

We're going like weird niche topics and we're going like like interesting in depth on them in short, little like minute and a half videos.

So go follow us at Crypted Shadows.

That's a lot of fun.

Then there's Reality Darkly, which is our true crime thing, which I've only made one video and I need to get back to it.

I got a buddy that it's gonna help me with the next one, so I getta.

I gotta start working on that one.

And then if you are if you're a psychopath and you're into like the spicier stuff, we do a show called The Daily Noticing, so you can go in and follow us there.

Also.

Yeah, that's everything, and please go support my co host, uh Thomas aka the Paranoid American.

Go to Paranoid American dot com.

And if you like Bigfoot, we're working on a comic actually uh that we are going to be launching here soon sogu does does Bigfoot Exist?

Dot com?

Yeah?

I was telling you guys.

I was telling Thomas.

I think last time we you and I saw it, I was like, man, that's a domain.

That's quite a domain to own.

I mean, you guys had to paste some money for that.

Even Paranoid American dot Com.

I mean that's a very expensive domains.

Has all of them, Illuminati Coomic dot com here, every single one, dude, Tom Nasa comic dot Com.

Uh yeah, it's so yeah.

Go support my my co host, my better half, uh Thomas aka the Paranoid American.

All right, buddy, Well thanks again for coming on.

I really appreciate it.

And uh, I guess we'll see you next time.

Bye, everybody.

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