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Speaker 2The dead of Night, Ghost is in in the pill night.
Speaker 1I don't know before what we bring it to your truth behind the Veil.
Speaker 3Gotta Paula.
Speaker 2All ride, Welcome.
Speaker 3How you doing.
It's Saturday.
Speaker 2It's Saturday.
Yes, I gotta fix my michaelphone.
Speaker 3Oh he's in the middle of a show and has to fix his mind.
So tonight we're going to be talking a little bit about what Jason.
Speaker 2Bigfoot evidence.
Speaker 3Yeah, just some videos and stuff.
Speaker 2We're gonna go over factor fiction.
I'm gonna discuss if they're real or not.
A Michelle A Michelle, how was your day?
Speaker 3Very unattemful.
I sat around the house and did not much of anything.
Speaker 2I slept all day.
Speaker 3I watched a movie one I knew the wife wouldn't wouldn't care if she missed or not.
You know, Uh, it's a pretty new movie.
It's called were Wolves.
So the premise behind this movie is the super Moon came out done something to people's DNA and turned them into were wolves.
They were trying to find a cure for it during this specific night when it was going to happen again, and people defending themselves against these things.
It was about the dumbest movie I've ever seen in my life, and I do not recommend unless you just don't have nothing to do with about an hour and a half or so of your life.
It wasn't great, but you know, I didn't pay nothing for it, so it's not like I'm out of a lot.
Speaker 2That's what I was going to ask you.
Did you buy it or no?
Speaker 3It was it's a newer movie.
I don't even remember which streaming service I watched it on, but it's called were Wolves.
It wasn't the greatest.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 4No.
Speaker 3I did watch something today though that I had thoughts for some reason in my mind that I had watched it before.
But while watching the movie, I realized I had never watched the movie.
Ever watched the movie Hey Baby Girl?
That was forty seven Roman.
Oh did you know that's based on a true story?
Speaker 2I think that Samurai or something.
Yeah, ye, Tom Cruise.
Speaker 3No, no, no, that's the last sever or something like that.
Yeah, it's got and I think of his name played John Wick Reeves.
Yeah, it's an older movie I think is maybe not twenty thirteen or something like that.
Anyway, it was pretty good.
It was it was that was actually a really good movie.
Ain't kind of a sci fi movie at the same time.
So, hey, how you doing?
Everything's good?
How are you?
Yeah?
The wife and I did nothing.
Speaker 2I slept all day on Thursday, all night.
Speaker 3Friday.
We came home, watch some TV life, actually went to bed like way early.
Speaker 2No no trick or treaters.
Speaker 3Out here where the bunker is, there is no trick or treaters.
Only the Ghules would be knocking at our door.
The Gules.
Speaker 2So tonight we're gonna be talking about some showing some Bigfoot evidence videos and then we're going to go over it and see what we think and what you think.
So we want you to chime in.
How many trick or treaders did you have?
Baby girl Casper seems like she would have a lot.
I mean.
Speaker 4With the.
Speaker 2Candy that she had, you know, big bow.
Yeah, I schedule trick or treaters.
Speaker 3A nice Those are called grand babies usually, right.
Yeah, So yeah, we didn't even get any of those.
I did get pictures of what the grandkids were wearing for Halloween.
I guess I can say that that was fun.
Speaker 2Yep.
So, uh, the first video I'm gonna show is of a supposed bigfoot.
Now you can We're gonna look at this, and we're gonna.
Speaker 3She said, six kids and five adults.
Speaker 2We should have trigger traded.
Speaker 3Yeah, I've been a little bit of a drive.
Speaker 2But we still need to get down there and investigate.
Speaker 3Yep.
Speaker 2Yeah, we've got to set that up.
We're gonna use the new Spirit portal.
Oh it's bad.
It's nice.
Speaker 3If there's any bigfoot activity.
You know, we've got fleir and not vision too.
Speaker 2We just camp.
So I'm going to play this first video.
See what you think of this.
Speaker 3I think I've seen this video.
Speaker 2Yeah, I've seen it a few hundred times.
So let's watch it closely.
Speaker 5Here the candy nothing for capturing wildlife on camera.
David's routine woodland walk takes a turn for the eerie.
Take a look, Yeah, what's.
Speaker 3That wearing the down onday my Mike Franky?
Who's abu?
Speaker 2Now do you see that figure right here?
Speaker 3Up there?
To see it?
Speaker 2Yeah?
Here that figure.
Speaker 3A lot of breath.
I think he's scared.
Speaker 2Watch.
Speaker 5Yes, nothing for capturing wildlife.
Speaker 2What do you think about that?
Speaker 3Can you rewind back to a little bit, because for me, I don't know.
It's weird because you see where that thing is kind of I guess it's it's leaning.
Speaker 2Over looks like a tree.
Speaker 3You don't see anything on the other side.
Then when it moves, all of a sudden, it's like there's nothing moving to the other side of that tree.
Speaker 5See yeah, mm hmm, no one for capturing wildlife on camera.
David's routine woodland walk takes a turn.
Speaker 3For just by the way, I've never seen this video read.
Speaker 6I mean it's interesting, huh.
Speaker 3It's just weird that it goes but you can't see it.
It's so big that it just like and it goes behind that tree.
You don't sit no more.
Right, Oh, No, it's weird.
That's that's weird.
It's hard for me to say one way or another.
I wasn't there, but I'm calling fake.
You think it's fake, I'm thinking fake.
Speaker 2It moved offul quick and then like that tree wouldn't recover the whole thing that was sticking out anyway, not unless there's like a door and.
Speaker 3The things, and that door is right behind the tree.
That thing's peeking out kind of like you would you'd open a door and just kind of peek out.
Speaker 2Yeah, it's like neck you know what I mean.
Speaker 3I mean, if you want to do interdimensional then that's possibility.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 3Otherwise I say fats.
Speaker 2So so what are we calling it?
Speaker 3Yes, Bigfoot does hang with coyotes.
Speaker 2Yeah, that's what I've heard.
I've heard a lot of Yeah, Bigfoot is a very wild, weird creature.
I think in this next video, Bigfoot is seen with a baby on its back.
Speaker 3Now I think I've seen this one.
Speaker 2This one looks pretty legible.
So let's see what it's about.
Yah, I believe these are pictures.
I don't want to play that yet.
Well, the next one, I know I didn't want it to do that.
So let's watch this again.
Wish you could play it in like slow motion?
Speaker 3Did you close?
Speaker 1So?
Speaker 2Okay, see, let me bring it down.
Yeah, but I can't see that anyway.
Let's watch it again.
Speaker 3I think it's even smaller.
Speaker 2Yeah, it's filmed with a cell phone, it looks like so I'm gonna have to play it then scroll down.
All right, here, I'll say that's one.
Could that be a baby on his back?
Speaker 3Yeah?
The one thing that's missing there's a red circle around itself.
It's see it.
I couldn't see it.
I can't, I can't.
I don't know.
Speaker 2I don't know.
I can I can see that long hair.
It don't look like a tree, and it's got kind of a figure.
To me, it's got a figure to it with something that's on its back.
But I'm not exactly sure I could see it paradolia.
Speaker 3Maybe I don't know.
I can't say, because it's one of those things that I'm like, I couldn't see it, and maybe if it had a red circle around it, I'll be able to see it better.
But add something I can't see.
Speaker 2What do you think about the red circles the blob squatches?
Speaker 3Yeah, I think that if you can't tell without a red circle being around it, then you don't need to.
It's nothing.
Speaker 2The blurryines that's what gets me in this day and age.
No picture should be blurry.
Speaker 3Right, well, I mean, if you're capturing a moving object, was something that was not meant to take pictures of moving objects, I can see what's blurry.
The problem also with blurry photos is that if it's if there's something in the foreground, say a tree or something, but something in the background that you're trying to take a picture of.
Unless you've got a manual zoom and all that stuff, are you going to get a good picture of what's behind that stuff that's in the foreground, because on a camera on automatic setting is going to automatically adjust to that stuff in the foreground for you to take a picture, not for the stuff in the background.
You see what I'm saying, And so you'd get that same blurry image.
Yes, Hello, Jason, Hey doing.
Speaker 2Buddy factor fiction to what we're talking about.
Speaker 3Yes, trying to figure out.
Speaker 2So I'm in the middle on that last one, David says he can't see it.
Speaker 3I can't see it.
Speaker 2And the first one, Yeah, it was definitely not it was fake.
Speaker 3I think it's fake.
Fake his heck.
Speaker 2And a lot of these bigfoot videos that's been coming out AI.
Speaker 3Yes, Like I sent out one to you and to Matt Seber.
Speaker 2Yeah, and it had the watermark on it from an AI generator sorrow, so you gotta watch it.
Speaker 3Yeah.
I was like, man, this is this looks pretty interesting here.
Speaker 2You didn't see it pop up and then come down here and pop up.
Speaker 3Now it was only like a a few second video.
Yeah, and it was made to look like he's watching a newscast here.
Speaker 2Let me see if I can show it.
You saend it on Facebook.
No, I don't think you did.
Speaker 3I don't think I did.
Speaker 2Well, maybe I can't show it.
Speaker 3So hey, tennessee Kentucky Bigfoot?
How you doing?
Yes, Jason, absolutely, buddy, he's gonna have his caregiving courses.
Oh yeah, so everybody be be thinking of Jason for for those courses.
That's awesome though, buddy.
So we're we're just pulling up random videos and looking and seeing the uh, you know so far.
Jason showed me too that I have never seen so h in Kent Washington.
I do know where Kent Washington is.
We've been pretty close to their driving trucks.
Speaker 2Who was that that Roger Buyer?
Awdie Roger?
Speaker 3Hey Roger, how you doing?
Buddy?
So?
Speaker 2Uh, this next video is pretty famous, is it?
Speaker 7So?
Speaker 3I've probably seen this one.
Speaker 2Yeah, you've seen this one, but there's a lot of controversy over it.
Speaker 3Is it because a certain person shot it?
Speaker 2Yeah?
Speaker 3I believe it's real.
Speaker 2Well, let's just look at it.
And see and I want the I want the people in the chat to chime in on this and see if they think this is real and it's from uh Todd standing in Canada okay, camp, Okay, let me find it here.
Speaker 3That's awesome.
Speaker 2Let's see.
Speaker 3Do you live in Washington, Jason, not in faking so we all know whose photos or whose photos and videos and stuff those are.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 3I watched a I don't know, I guess it's about an hour and a half show.
And it was another guy that's on that does bigfoot stuff right, and he actually talked to him personally because he also lives in Canaday, Okay, and so but he talks to him personally about everything and then even brings up, hey, you know, well, they say your sister is is uh, you know, in the movies and and all that stuff and does prosthetics, and he laughed and said, no, she doesn't.
Anybody can look it up.
She doesn't.
She's done some makeup and stuff before, but not in movies and things like that.
No prosthetics, No, no, you know things like that.
She does not and has never done things like that.
So I don't know.
I want him, I want to get him on the show sometimes because I really think that what he has to say, he brings more evidence to the table than anybody else ever has, and all these other people are too busy.
Speaker 2It's like.
Speaker 3Everybody that takes a patish give them one film and goes nope, nope.
Even as time goes by, they're proving more things about it to be right than wrong.
Speaker 2Mm hmm.
Speaker 3And so for me, I think that I think it's rue.
I really do.
That's my opinion on it, though.
Speaker 2Yeah, let's play it one more time.
Uh, let's see here, get it over here where it'll be full screen.
So I want to add it to the stage and where's it goes?
Speaker 5Nothing for capturing wildlife on camera, David's.
Speaker 2Wrong on.
Speaker 3The first one.
Speaker 2I know it's crazy here we I've linked for me.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So he named this this one Jake, Yeah, and he said it.
Speaker 3Was trying to find him.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 3So on that part where Todd Standing is talking about this this one in particular, he says he was walking and he's seen it, and so he got down and got out his camera and it's sitting there like, Okay, I know someone was there and it's trying to find him.
And that's what it's trying to do is sitting there trying to find him when he got out his camera and started filming it.
Speaker 2I've seen his movie and it's I think it's a lot of compelling evidence.
Speaker 3Well, this guy also takes because you know a lot of people are are sits there and talks about well, look at the face this face and look at Todd's standing's face, and they're the same.
But those morph things are meant to morph something from one thing to another.
So what they did is that they took a leave from one of those things and they said, look this, it's an evergreen tree of some sort.
And they said, look, these things are usually typically an inch or whatever long.
However long it was, I think it was five inches or something like that.
Now, they put it from one eye all the way over to the other eye, and it was twice as far as any normal humans from eye to eye.
Speaker 2Yeah, I've heard that the eyes don't match up with any human.
Speaker 4No.
Speaker 3Yeah, it's whiter and the whole head is the whole wet head from one side to the other doesn't match up.
Tullahoma.
Speaker 2Jason's eating again.
He always eats during the show, don't he.
He has some good stuff.
Speaker 3If he lives in uh in Washington, he's three hours behind us right now.
Oh so what's five thirty there or five twenty two there?
Speaker 2Getting ready to have homemade chicken taco salad with cheese, tomatoes, onions, some avocados one thousand dollars.
That sounds good.
Yeah, I could see it, yum young making me hungry.
I haven't eat dinner yet and it's already eight eight something eight point thirty.
Speaker 3Eight twenty three.
I had a neck, no cor.
Speaker 2Yeah, let's look at it again.
It was, Yeah, I don't have a cone shaped head.
And to me, that's what a bigfoot should look like.
What I mean from yeah, this picture, I think it is what best describes it well.
Speaker 3And if you look at most people's descriptions, they don't have hair on their face.
They may have hair like say where Jason here could grow a beard and all that stuff, you know, but they don't have it doesn't go all the way to their eyes.
No, no, they and most of the time they talk about them having this ashy too dark colored skin, mh and everything, and I'm sorry, but it just it just looks.
Speaker 2And the nose, I mean, the nose looks.
I don't see how anybody.
I mean maybe with the technology we have today, but it'd be hard to duplicate that without using AI or with the eyeblinks and the head movement.
Speaker 3Yeah, no, not without using computers.
Yeah, unless it is CG, I would say no way.
Speaker 2And I don't think his his video or pictures haven't been they've been, but they haven't been said that.
Hey, this is a no, not at all.
I think he gets a bad rap.
I believe I'm with you.
Speaker 3I think he gets a bad rap, and it's only because people are jealous of what he's.
Speaker 2Able to do.
Tennessee Kentucky Bigfoot says off on report of no ears.
Also and yeah, we don't seen years.
Speaker 3Kentucky, Tennessee Kentucky Bigfoot.
Do you think that's because the hair kind of hides where the ears are?
Like, hey, Paul, Hey, Paul, how you doing, buddy?
Do you think like me?
If I let my hair down right now?
Jason's looking like are you gonna do it?
Speaker 2Are you gonna let your hair out of me?
Speaker 3And I put it down.
Though, if I did that, then you wouldn't see my ears either, Like like this, watch, yeah, I'll.
Speaker 2Shoe we're doing good, Paul.
Thanks.
Speaker 3See if I pulled all this hair out and I was a wild man, right, I have my hair just everywhere.
You're not gonna see my my ears.
My hair looks hey, overly over stoked oscars.
Hey, how's everybody doing?
Speaker 2You do look like a wild man?
Speaker 3See, you wouldn't see you wouldn't see my my ears though my ears are hidden.
You think that's what do you think it's because of?
Because of that?
Speaker 2Let's see if I can do that?
Speaker 3All right, I ain't gonna put my hair.
Speaker 2Oh no, you can see my ears.
Speaker 3Well.
You know one thing, I've never seen one that says anything about being bald.
Right, so I'm closer to be a bigfoot than you are.
I think it's Todd.
Speaker 7I do not.
Speaker 3I've seen something where they took again some of the foliage and they measured the leaf and showed where the leaf is, the typical leaf is whatever to whatever.
And they took the smallest measurement of that leaf what it typically is, and they measured it all the way across the face of that thing.
And then they took a picture of Todd and did the same thing, and it was almost twice as the size of him.
Speaker 2Of his face.
Speaker 3Wow, I think it's interesting.
Speaker 2You can see the eyeballs in this picture.
Speaker 3Yeah yeah, yeah.
And they showed where the morphing videos morph anything into almost anything, a person into a dog, I mean, because that's what they do.
They're they're morphing videos.
So I don't know.
I think that they are very interesting.
And the lies that are told about his sister being part of all that stuff is not true either.
Speaker 2He talks too much.
Yeah, I think he gets excited.
But I have watched his movie and I do believe that the guys.
Speaker 3I do.
Again, I think that he had his moment where he hit the big time and then he started, you know, doing stuff.
But you know, if he doesn't truly believe it, I mean, he took tons of people out there and over the overstock says I do not believe him.
Speaker 2Well, that's what we're here for, yep, for you to tell us you don't believe him.
Speaker 3And we're not here to change anybody's mind at all by any means.
But we would like to have him on the show one time.
I think, oh yeah, I'd like to talk to him.
I know he has he like you said, he's brought people out there, and tons of them.
I don't think they've ever said that he faked anything while he while they were there, and they did have a few experiences.
You had what's his name, survivor man guy that did with him, and they did a thing where they put stuff up in a tree and Todd left to go do something else, or he left anyway, and took him to one of the hotspots, I guess, and then he put that film on there.
And then you see something that was you know, that apple or what it was that they put way up in the tree.
Yes, you see something kind of come up and go and grab it, and it was it's physically impossible for a human to have grabbed it.
And and this is someone other than Todd standing, you know, So I don't.
Speaker 2Know the a moot argument, unacknowledged unknown are you doing, unacknowledged moot argument, the.
Speaker 3Moot argument about Todd's standing.
We're about his bigfoot, real or not?
The real or not is the fact of the the some of the videos that we're watching, I think we've had two on here that I just one.
I didn't see anything.
I'm sorry I didn't.
Speaker 2His girlfriend Ash has her channel same she's legit.
She seemed legit.
Have seen Todd in the background in her videos?
Speaker 3Oh I did, did not know that.
I'll have to.
I'll have to look her up because that'd be interesting to watch for sure.
Yeah, huh, I didn't know.
I mean not like I've ever looked into his life, but I didn't know.
You know that he had a girlfriend and that she was on to So does she Tennessee can take your Bigfoot?
Does she also talk about Bigfoot?
Speaker 2Is that?
Speaker 3Is that what she does too?
I just think it's interesting that the late doctor Jeff Meldrum, he took him way up into the woods with him, and he's taken all kinds of other people way up in the woods too.
Speaker 2He took Brian Sharp or was it Sharp?
It's his last name Sharp from Bigfoot Odyssey.
Speaker 3Yeah, I think so.
Speaker 2Yeah, I think he went with him, Yeah, Brian King King.
Yeah, so I'd go.
Yeah, I would too.
Speaker 3Now I feel weird that my hair is out of opponent tail.
Speaker 2Me too, man, my hair it messes up easy.
Speaker 3Yee.
Speaker 2So I got one more video?
Speaker 3Just one more?
Speaker 2Yeah, I do.
It's just one more.
Speaker 3More than just one more.
I have to look for some more.
Speaker 2Unacknowledged non thinker thunkers breakdown actually supports what you explain about Todd's photos.
Speaker 3That may be the guy that I've watched as thinker thunkers.
Is he, uh, another Canadian guy that goes in and and kind of breaks it down.
That's who I had watched, and I watched it and thought that it was probably one of the best videos on that that I had ever seen.
And and that's exactly who I was talking about on that.
Well, I think you're right over overly overstoked.
Is that you know Jason and I when we do our talks on the paranormal, anytime people hurt anybody, does anybody in any field, right, but we talk about it in the paranormal field, but does something to hurt that credibility.
They're hurting everybody's credibility.
So when one thing is faked, now everything is suspect to be fake.
So yeah, it's it's amazing.
I acknowledged unknown he's in America, but yes, oh he is he American.
I thought he was a Canadian because he sounded very Canadian.
Hey, and I'm saying that because I've practically lived there for years in Canada.
The wife and I when we were overstoke or over the road, truck drivers were there all the time.
Yeah, overly overstoked.
Exactly the same with the Paranormal is ask Kay.
Speaker 2Got her channel name is asked Kay.
This is her handle.
Okay, well check that out.
Speaker 3Awesome.
Yeah, we'll definitely have to check that out because that's awesome.
Maybe we tried to have her on the show too.
Speaker 2Paranormal Paul says, credibility is everything in this filled.
Once you fake something, everything else is thrown out of the window.
Speaker 3Nope, I think you are absolutely right.
Yep that I mean that.
It can't be said any better, Paul, because you know, when it comes down to it, you get caught faking stuff, then not only has your credibility gone.
I mean I don't think that I would ever watch and I have people on YouTube and some of them are very big on YouTube, but they're fake as they could be, and I stopped watching them just for that reason.
And but you know the problem is is that when these people do that, they hurt everyone else too, because when someone has that moment, that that light bulb moment that says wait a second here right, and it may be sooner for some than it is for others.
But when that happens, then they start looking at everybody in the exact same light.
You know that everybody that's in that field is now lying and and they don't believe nobody, right, So but yeah, no, that's that's fact.
Yeah.
Speaker 2Yeah.
I also think once you fake something and you get caught, yeah you're over.
I don't think anybody would think you was credible if you really did have a good some good evidence.
I just I just think people wouldn't believe you.
Speaker 3The Yeah, you know, half the problem today is that AI is getting really good.
Yeah it ain't perfect yet, but it is getting very good, and the ability to fake stuff is only going to get better, only gonna get better or easier to do.
How's that I'll put it that way.
And so you know, there's going to come a point in all of this type of research, whether it's paranormal, bigfoot, UFOs, aliens, all this stuff, which I think a lot of it is intertwined in different ways.
I think that there's going to come a point where people are going to really start second and third guessing whoa are you doing?
Speaker 2I don't know every thing plays automatically, all right, I'll shut up and let you Oh, go ahead.
Yeah, So whatever you're saying.
Speaker 3Paul's paranormal says, that's paranormal, Paul, is it.
Yeah, that our ability is becoming more and more important with AI being so good.
Now, that's fact.
That is a fact.
And you know, I think that's something that drives me nuts is that, you know, Jason and I have been in the paranormal field for since twenty twelve.
Yep, we've been doing the show since twenty twelve, now, not as Paranormal four one one.
We started off as a project Dark Corona, and but you know, we've always tried to be credible to the point that we even will second guess things that we will talk to people about right, and no matter how good the evidence is.
And yet we see people daily on YouTube that has tens of thousands of followers, and I think ten percent of what they say may be right or real, and everything else is fake.
Yeah, And what that does to someone, you know, to people who are trying to be as real as they could be, is just make you want to just throw in the towel sometimes because you're just like, no one really wants the truth, they want just a really good lie.
Speaker 2They want to make it big.
Speaker 3Yeah.
Well, I mean the people who follow those people just make you seem like they just want a good lie.
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2Tennessee, Kentucky Bigfoot says.
My wife and I just recently gave up our CDLs.
We drove team to Cali weekly.
Truck drivers are the realest people you'll ever meet.
Yes, I do think that.
Speaker 3Yeah, Life and I were team drivers for We team drove for five years.
Yeah, any alleged researcher, let's never say we don't know, right, yeah, right, And you know that's the thing is like it's okay to say when someone asks you a question and say, you know, I'm not sure that's that's okay because but you know, we'll try to find the answers to it.
Speaker 2Yeah, Barbara's got a point here.
It makes it more difficult for actual investigators or investigations because of the fakes, and most can't afford experts to validate evidence, so they wish to entertain, not to investigate.
Right, We've seen that.
Yeah, we were just talking about that before the show.
Speaker 3Don't We will say things like what we just said, but we will never call somebody out because that's not what we do.
People will find the fakes, and when they do, then they do.
Speaker 2Now that's a good point.
Overly overstocked oscars.
In every video they do find things.
What are the odds of finding things in every video?
I think it takes months to film one of those shows, right, just an episode, maybe two or three weeks.
So I don't think it's all the exact same, exact same time.
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 3I think that if we're talking about bigfoot here for a second, I think if you could do enough historical research data on any particular time in place and there is purported big too foot activity, I think that you can narrow down windows of the best times to go and do investigations if you could get enough anecdotal evidence, you get enough people to tell you their stories, and you start seeing a pattern of well, it's always between these months and these months, right, and and and from what I'm seeing, it's it's every other year or just just whatever that is.
I think that you can have a better ability to maybe go in and find something.
When it comes to paranormal it's hogwash.
Jason and I and I've been to a couple of places that every time we've gone, there's been some kind of activity.
Sometimes it's more, sometimes.
Speaker 2It's very subtle.
Speaker 3But the majority of the time you don't find nothing.
Yeah, you go to a place and there's nothing.
Speaker 2Going on, and you could go there one day and it'll be on fire the next day.
Nothing.
I mean, it's just random.
Speaker 3Right, unacknowledged.
I'll tell you something about that, and I agree.
We have a really good friend of ours East Tennessee bigfoot mister Mattzeeber.
We hold him in very high regard.
He was he was our first person to ever come shows.
Hey, Eddie, one of the first people to ever come on one of our shows.
And it was back in twenty twelve, a long, long, long time ago.
And you know, we like to always say, oh, you're the man, the myth, the legend and all this stuff and and but just because we love the guy, right.
But he'll be the first to tell you that there are no there is no one that's an expert, because anybody that says they're an expert bigfoot hunter or whatever, there's no such thing unless they could walk you out in the woods and take you straight to one and let you see one and talk to one.
There is no one that can do that.
So there's no such thing as an expert.
People with a lot of knowledge.
Yes, and you know, I think that that is the right attitude to have in any of this stuff that we do with the paranormal.
Speaker 2Yeah, so Tennessee, Kentucky Bigfoot says we have never made one dollar on YouTube.
We have no books or paywalls.
It's more important that people know we don't do this for money, right, Yeah, Well, we do have a book, We've got two, we've got three books.
But I mean we haven't sived any funding from YouTube, but we don't charge for our investigations.
We just go out and try to help people.
Speaker 3We don't have a paywall on no paywall.
Speaker 2We do have a donation button.
Speaker 3Yeah, if you go to our website, I turn on before one.
We do have where people can donate on the first page.
But we've also got a membership part of it to where if you wanted to be a member, it's a ten dollars and a two dollars membership a month.
But that's just to help with this stuff, right.
These cameras aren't cheap.
Any of y'all that are into this stuff to understand this equipment yeah, it's nothing is cheap, and and we don't require it or ask and if you give, we we we love everybody and we appreciate everybody and what you can do just showing up and talking with us, being active in the chat rooms does a lot.
You know, it really really does help a lot, and we appreciate that more than anything.
Speaker 2So overtly over stocked Oscars must have had a YouTube channel for fish because she said some people just like looking at fish.
Hey, that's cool, she said she actually made some money.
Speaker 3You know, it might be like the wife and I, you know, we if we're not here at the house or something upstairs where the animals are where the kid cat and the puppy dog gether, we turn on like just different types of little music stuff on YouTube that plays for like eleven hours at a time.
Yeah, while we're gone, and it just sits there and plays in the background.
So then the cat and dog actually yeah up there and not feeling like they're alone, I guess.
Speaker 2But now we do know some people that like to put the dollar sign out there a whole lot.
Yeah, I mean fine, if you want to make your money that way, I mean that's fine with me.
But me and David were and a lot of people like us.
We just do it for because we want to help people and because we want to find the truth.
Speaker 3Yeah, it's about you know, when we first started doing this thing, because it was this would be cool, Let's do it.
Speaker 2We love you too, guys.
We do Mark, Mark and Barbera.
Speaker 3Have squirrel and bird videos.
Yeah.
I don't even remember where I was at.
Speaker 2I don't know.
Speaker 3I don't know.
So let's but we we you know, we've got to meet awesome people like all of y'all that are in the chat rooms and stuff on these chat rooms.
Some of y'all we might know a little more personal than others.
Uh, like paranormal Paul.
You know, we've met Paul in person.
Actually got to have a couple of beers with him, Yeah, and uh and hang out with him and stuff.
And January thirty.
Speaker 8First, he wasn't drinking beer.
He was drinking, uh, drinking whisky whiskey.
I I should have been drinking whiskey with him.
But January thirty first, we're going to get to hang out with him again.
Speaker 2Oh yeah, So and he's going to be doing a.
Speaker 3Live show during during that too, So that's cool.
Yeah, I have to jump up and say what's up?
Ask him if he wants to drink, because I'm sure you can't just jump up go get one, you know.
Speaker 2He says he was, Oh, man, you was drinking.
Uh, you're buying shots, at least I think I was.
Speaker 3He said, you're.
Speaker 2Buying shots for everybody?
Man?
Was that he was?
Speaker 3He the one boy shots.
Speaker 2I'm pretty sure he was sitting at the very end of the table, wasn't he He was sitting like right by you.
No, yes, well who was at the end to the table.
Speaker 3He was sitting right next to you.
Speaker 2I don't know.
I remember somebody uh buying or getting the.
Speaker 3End of the table.
That was the guy that had done that other show the.
Speaker 2Mike.
Speaker 3Yes, that's him, Mike, Yes, he was.
Speaker 2All right, So let's get back to the video.
I got one more one more videos.
Speaker 3Sitting here talking about drinking.
We did have a good time there, No, it was awesome.
I didn't like it that we had to leave, but then it started.
It was raining like crazy.
When we Para with the Normal, that's it, Yes, Para with the Normal.
Yeah, Muffalo trace that was what he was drinking, that guy, Yeah, yeah, all right me.
Remember Greg got slammered.
Speaker 2With one drink.
Yeah, so let's get back to the video.
Speaker 3Have good night, buddy.
Speaker 2Yeah, thanks, He grows Yeah, unacknowledged, says he likes to get to the bottom of things too.
So you guys are not alone and digging for the truth.
Many are just pushing yes sensationalism and their pretenders.
Speaker 3Thank yes, yes, yes, you get the nail on the head.
Speaker 8All right?
Speaker 2Yes, this last video we got, Now, this is pretty interesting and it comes from Jeremy Underscore, Jazzper Underscore, Henson Outdoors Adventures.
So I don't know if he was looking for bigfoot or just out hunting or hiking.
So let's play this if I can, you could do it.
Speaker 7Check Out this video of a cloaking bigfoot.
I drew air and highlighted it.
Tell me what y'all think that is?
Do you see it?
I can see it good.
You see outline of something that's cloaking?
What is that bigfoot or not?
Check out this video of a cloaking bigfoot.
I drew air and highlighted it.
Tell me what y'all think that is?
Speaker 2Do you see it?
Speaker 7I can see it good?
You see outline of something that's cloaking.
What is that Bigfoot or not?
Speaker 3I don't know.
Speaker 2Well, you know that kind of looked like that on Expedition Bigfoot when they took the it was like season three, a little robot dog into the cave with the light or that looked like it was in that dreamy look, you know, fixation and it and it did have an outline.
Right, let me see if I can pull just a season.
Speaker 3Three that was probably one of my favorite ones.
Speaker 2Let's see, it would help.
Speaker 3I think it would help if if right there there wasn't no words.
Speaker 2You can see that right in there.
It's kind of blurry, so you'll talk.
Speaker 3About like what you'd get with the Predator movies.
Speaker 2Yeah, it looks just like that.
Speaker 3Yeah, yes, well, and and again you can see.
Speaker 2It moving too.
You can see it movement when I'm when going frame frame by frame, watch see it.
You see it's an URM move.
Speaker 3Mm hmm.
Speaker 2That's interesting.
Speaker 3Oh no, I think over the overstoke, I'm not sure.
Speaker 7Is it not?
Speaker 3Oh it's not showing up.
You don't have it on the thing and you are sitting here talking to ourselves.
Speaker 2Okay, well here it is?
Did I.
Speaker 3Yep?
They didn't get to even see it first time.
Speaker 2Sorry, got too many buttons to push.
Speaker 7Check out this video of a cloaking big Foot.
I grew there and highlighted it.
Tell me what y'all think, Eddie is?
Do you see it?
I can see it good.
You see outline of something that's cloaking.
Speaker 1What is that?
Speaker 3You didn't have the back out?
The words are right in the front of everything.
Speaker 4I know.
Speaker 2I can't take the words out though, because the words are there.
Speaker 3Though I can't see nothing, not from my perspective anyway.
Speaker 2I can see something moving and it looks like the Predator.
Speaker 3This reminds me of the Miami Mall.
Yeah, I know.
I think it was season three of that, wasn't it Expedition Bigfoot?
Yeah, and that was amazing m hm when they went in with the light ar.
Speaker 2Yeah, I think they actually I think it now it looks the same as that image, but it was in a cave.
Speaker 3Yeah.
Us, But you got to see it from two different perspectives.
You got to see it from the camera perspective and then what the lie dark cut.
Speaker 2Now if if there was a lidar on that, that would be interesting.
Speaker 3Yeah, yeah, that would be interesting.
Speaker 2Verry huh what do you think about that video?
Anybody?
You can't see it?
Speaker 3I can't see it.
Speaker 2I can see it.
I think it.
I see it when I go frame by frame.
There's something they're moving and it looks like you're in a dream.
You know how it ripples like the predator, like the predator.
Yeah, that's what it looks like.
That one section is like that, but the rest is clear.
Speaker 3Right.
Speaker 2M So let me just yeah, something's there.
You can see it right here, David, look the head, the shoulders over here.
Yeah, into.
Speaker 3Eddie says, there's something there.
Speaker 2So what's When I go frame by frame, you'll see it move, see it shrink?
Speaker 3Yeah, I do.
I do see something shrinking.
I just had to get all the way of there so I can see it.
M So, what does everybody think about the fact that, Okay, how's this?
Everybody in the chat room?
Are you flesh and blood?
Or are you it's very possibly something else?
How many of y'all believe that it could be possibly something else?
Or do you believe it's flesh and blood?
Speaker 2Yes?
Oh yeah, I am too overly overstoked.
From what they know Tennessee, Kentucky Bigfoot says.
Speaker 3From what we know, they could hide right in front of us, somehow they fade out in our vision range or something.
Yes, it's almost like they have some type of a cloaking technology.
And I don't even know if it's a technology.
That is probably the wrong word, because what chameleons can do is not a technology.
You know, flesh and blood with angel powers, Okay, combination, Yes, flesh and blood, Jason Finch Okay, Barbara says flesh and blood.
So I just have a question for the flesh and blooters.
Yes, flesh, Eddie says, flesh and blood.
With that we don't understand.
Speaker 2Yeah, So.
Speaker 3For people who only believe that they're flesh and blood, what do you say about all the weird stuff that happens, like the orbs and different things that that even Native Americans talked about that that go along with these creatures and with that ability to somehow cloak, even if it isn't cloaking, even.
Speaker 2If it's fading out.
Speaker 3Somehow they can manipulate the hairs on their bodies to lay in a certain way to where our eyes can't see them or something.
I don't know.
Yeah, or it's a sound that they could emit that that makes the where our brains just fuzz them out.
Speaker 2That's a good point.
I mean, I do have they I think they do have that ability for infrasound, and that affects affects you in a lot of different ways.
Speaker 3Right, So if they can modulate that tone somehow up and down, maybe different parts of that does different things to the human mind.
Speaker 2What I think.
I think it's flesh and blood when it's here.
I think it goes between two planes of existence.
Speaker 3That's what the Native Americans say.
Speaker 2I think it can pop in and out anywhere.
I think that's what explains the one footprint and the cloaking.
Maybe it was I don't know if it would leave a footprint if it was cloaked.
I don't know.
It may not even be cloaking.
It may be some kind of thing like you was talking about.
But I do believe they walk in both worlds.
Speaker 3I think there's a lot of unknowns and it's hard to just say one or the other.
And overly Overstoked has something that I think is right.
Right, So lots of animals can hide in plain sights.
It says both of urk cats do it at all times.
I mean, living out here in East Tennessee, where we live.
I could literally walk out onto my top porch watch deer eating in my yard.
I can make a noise most time.
They'll look at me because I don't hunt or nothing, and they're like, hey, what are you doing?
You know, bothering me eating?
But they'll run up into the woodline, up into the trees.
What's weird is that you could watch these things run into the trees, and as soon as they hit that woodline, they disappear completely, just disappear.
And so you have to sit there and like focus, and what you'll see is they'll sit so still that you can't see them.
They'll just blend in with the trees and the grass and everything.
But then you'll start seeing that tail flick and you'll see that white, that white underneath that tail, and then you're like oh, and then you can pick them out.
And then they're sitting there just staring at you, like, what's this guy going to do?
You know, what's this guy doing?
Speaker 2Is your hair down?
When you see the deer hopefully overtly over step, Fosters asks, my hair is rarely down.
Speaker 3Time.
Speaker 2He only puts it down when he gets a little tipsy.
Speaker 3If the wife and I are going to go out somewhere or we go to one of these conferences and stuff.
My hair will be down and then I'll usually have one braid in the center.
Speaker 2But it's funny, my hair is always down.
Tennessee, Kentucky Bigfoot says the many stories of the sound going quiet is off, you know, is off, and he has experienced it.
So when they activate the power, they changed sound invisibility, frequency modifications and crazy stuff.
Speaker 3I can see it, you know.
Jason and I went to a place before, and we were actually going there to do a ghost investigation, which a circle.
And I don't know how many people live around the woods live in an area where I mean we live in East Tennessee, so they're everywhere.
But what was eerie is that we walked for probably a quarter of a mile into the woods.
There wasn't a cricket sound, no birds overhead, no birds in the trees.
What's weird is there was no squirrels or anything else.
You heard absolutely no noises at all.
But once you got past about that quarter of a mile, you could hear the birds across the Tennessee River and on the little islands in the Tennessee river and everything.
But you couldn't.
You couldn't in that one section does nothing.
It was just quiet, and I think it was eerie kind of.
Speaker 2That's right, over overtly over stock Stoke Oskars.
Bald is sexy.
It is true.
Speaker 3I said it.
It's true.
Speaker 2You know who my wife's infatuation is, Professor X Nope, Bruce willis Man.
Speaker 3You know when he first started the movies he actually had hair, right, yeah, but she likes in bald.
Speaker 2Oh gotcha, okay, Tennessee Kentucky Bigfoot.
We had it stopped the sound of the rip.
Wow.
Wow, yeah, that's crazy that oh it was.
It was actually modifying your hearing.
Speaker 3See and that may be true.
That sounds right.
Used to say turn and what so turn loose.
Speaker 2All my favors are bald, Yeah, Barbara.
Predators do make things go quiet.
Speaker 3That's a fact.
I mean, you know, in some aspects, just human presence being there, certain things are going to get quiet, for sure.
But you know, the crickets are going to continue to chirp unless you get too close to them.
The ground squirrels and squirrels and birds are still going to be doing whatever they do.
But for it to just go just eerily quiet.
Is just it's weird.
Yes, that's right.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Crickets stop when when anything's near.
Speaker 3Ye know those You get one inside your you get one inside your house, and you find that's out.
It'll sit there and sit there and chirp, churp, chirp chirp until you get really close to to finding it to throw it away, throw it outside, and it stops.
Speaker 2Could be couldn't they could stop time?
I think it's a lot of people out in the woods have loss of time.
Yeah, hm hm, that's interesting.
Speaker 3We actually had a story of a guy that talked about that lost time, two hours of lost time.
And what was weird is that they had hunted that place.
So they went in I think it was him and his father for him and a good friend of his pulled into a place.
They pulled into all the time to go hunting, got everything out, went to to go to their spots, and they went to a certain spot, and then they split up and and went their own directions.
They walked and walked and walked.
What they thought was just you know, no time, really twenty thirty minutes maybe, and they should be getting pretty close to where they needed to go.
To split.
Next thing, they know, they're coming up over this hill that they don't remember, and when they got to the top of this hill, they looked down and that was their car.
Somehow they walked back behind instead of going forward, like if the car was parked here, they walked this way.
Somehow they came back in behind it and had two hours of missing time.
Speaker 2Portal.
Yeah, it could be a portal.
Speaker 3Yeah, very possible.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Jason Finch still talking about his bald head.
Speaker 3He says it's why he hangs his hat in Tennessee.
Well, I stopped hats a long time ago.
Speaker 2I still wear my hat.
That's why I'm bald most of the time.
I think mostly because I wore a hat for years, never took it off everywhere I went.
I had a hat on.
Speaker 3When I had short hair, I wore hats.
Speaker 2A lot.
Speaker 3I've still got a ton of short of hats upstairs, tons of them.
Human I can only sist tiny fraction of the matter.
It's made it to be around five percent, with the rest being made of dark matter twenty seven percent and dark energy or sixty eight percent dark energy.
Huh, that's interesting too, is interesting?
Speaker 2Hats do cause hair loss ponytails do also, huh.
Speaker 3I think if people that pull them up and really tight ponytails where it actually pulls the hair back corn row very very possible.
Oh, like where this is really really tight like this.
Yeah, but I don't do mine that way.
I have too much hair, but.
Speaker 2I have and take my hair.
Speaker 3I don't like my hair feeling like it's getting pulled all the time.
Speaker 2Now, this is what they give me for blood pressure.
It's called monoxideal and its active ingredient is roguain.
And it don't work.
Yeah, it don't work.
I mean it works good for my blood pressure, but it don't work for growing hair.
Yeah, I don't know.
A loose tail is better.
Speaker 3Yes, that's why I do mine loose ponytail.
That's why mine stays ninety nine percent of the time.
It's in either a braid or a ponytail.
Me too, Oh my hair.
My wife braids my hair more than anything.
She says, you're going to get your hair back.
Speaker 2I don't believe.
Speaker 3So.
Hey, I think if you started shaving this and putting it up here, yeah, it might root.
Speaker 2I was thinking about getting you.
I've seen it on the internet where they tattoo your hair on.
It looks like it's really shaved really close.
But some of them look good.
Yeah, think about doing that.
Speaker 3Does it depend on which way you're looking at it?
Speaker 2Then no, they do a hairline.
Yeah, where you're bald and tattoo everything, little little hairs on it.
Speaker 3I would say, just don't worry about it.
Speaker 2Not get his hair back.
But I already have back hair.
Speaker 3That's where.
That's where, that's.
Speaker 2Where it ran.
Speaker 3It falls out of here and it lands on their shoulders and back.
Speaker 2Yeah.
I don't have it as bad as I used to, but I used to have some some pretty hair.
Your back hair, Yeah, I'd shave you that stuff.
Speaker 3No, I don't know.
I think the native side in on my side of the family just runs too strong for me to have to worry about it.
Speaker 2I guess I'm cave man.
We want to thank everybody for joining us tonight.
Speaker 3Wax is painful.
Yeah, I don't want nothing to do with it.
I watched videos of like these guys that go into place and they will stick those things up their nose with the wax.
Yeah yeah, let it harden and then they'll yank that stuff out.
Holy smoke, there's no no way I'm glad I don't grow hair.
I wish I could grow a beard, mustache and stuff.
Yeah that I can't.
Speaker 2This is it true.
I can grow a beard, but mustache, but not on the top of my head.
Speaker 3Yeah hopefully you know, beard and mustache on your head would look weird.
Yeah, thank you, overly overstoked.
Yeah, we we had a very busy week last week.
Speaker 2I don't think we didn't have a show on Thursday.
Speaker 3Yeah, we did that other show.
Speaker 2Yeah, we were on another show.
I don't know if anybody got to see that, but yeah, because I couldn't share it for some reason.
Speaker 3Yeah, I think they had it to where we couldn't share it, so everybody had to go to their channel to watch it.
It was a really good show though, I would definitely suggest watching it.
We played some really good some really good evidence.
Speaker 2Yeah, if you want to watch it, you can go over to Blonds and Boos Bonds and Booze on YouTube.
Blonds and Booze not boobs.
Speaker 3Yeah booze.
Not like booze either.
I like drinking booze.
It's boy.
Speaker 2Yeah.
We talked about the paranormal and showed a little bit of evidence that we had.
We did make a post, but not on YouTube.
It was on facebook.
Speaker 3Yeah, we need to start doing better at posting I guess on on YouTube.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 3We usually will post stuff like that on our Facebook page, and I guess we do need to get better at posting in other places because I guess not everybody that's part of this is also part of our Facebook.
So we're sorry.
We will get better, we promise.
Speaker 2Well, we do want to thank everybody for listening to us tonight about bigfoot evidence factor fiction.
Speaker 3And thank you for chiming in and telling us what you believe and and everything, because you know, the only way we can come to any kind of truth to this is to have the discussion.
Speaker 2Yeah, so we will be back.
Speaker 3Oh, our last post was a month ago.
Speaker 2Yeah, and that had to be on YouTube.
Speaker 3Yeah, I'm sorry everybody.
I'm gonna say that I'm really bad because if there's a post made on YouTube, Jason, because I don't even think I have access to get into our YouTube to make a post.
Speaker 2If I think you do, I don't know if you just log into it.
Speaker 3Yeah, I don't have to log in information for YouTube.
Speaker 2Well, I'll have to get it for you.
Maybe girl was there, she was listening.
Yeah, well, thank you watching, Thank you, baby girl.
We need to get down to your place to do some investigations and try out our new Spirit portal.
Speaker 3Jason's building a new Spirit portal.
So when we get it, we'll do a show on some of our equipment maybe, and we'll talk about the equipment, and then we'll let you all get to see the new portal.
Yeah, that'll be fun.
All right, I'm interested.
I can't wait to see it.
He's been keeping me in the dark too, so.
Speaker 2I've been in my lab.
Yeah, I'm will make a few more things too.
Yeah.
So I want to thank you again for listening.
Speaker 3Thanks everybody for listening, for joining us to night, and we will get better at making those posts so that everybody could find out.
I didn't even know until Jason showed me was it a couple of two three weeks ago or so that you could even make posts in facebo or in YouTube.
I didn't even know what.
Jason showed it to me and I was like, oh, that's neat.
Yeah, so that's that's how illiterate I am with the YouTube.
Speaker 2So, oh, I forgot to tell everybody.
We do have a couple of guests lined up on November the twenty second, we're going to have Jerry Millwood from North Carolina Huns something like that.
They're a bigfoot Yeah, they're a big foot team, part.
Speaker 3Of a big foot team in North Carolina.
Yeah.
He's also part of that Channel twelve, isn't he.
Speaker 2Yeah, part of Channel twelve and they're in North Carolina.
He's gonna be November to twenty second at eight pm Eastern time, and then have another one lined up on December sixth, which gonna have fun with this one.
Adam Davies is gonna be on the show.
Speaker 3Is he actually gonna come in or is he gonna?
I don't know.
Speaker 2We could get him to if he has time.
Speaker 3I don't know, it's up to him.
Speaker 2He just lives not even thirty minutes away, right, So we've been trying to get Adam on the show for a while and he finally decided to come on, and.
Speaker 3You know, that's just that's gonna please please, please please.
Speaker 2And a lot of people talking for us too.
Yeah.
Speaker 3Yeah, we have to.
We have to say thanks for everybody that's besides us and our persistence and trying to get him as a guest.
Other people going hey, you know, the Paranormal Guys Paranorm for one woman.
Yeah.
Um, all right, but I want to thank everybody and I hope you have a great rest of your weekend.
Be safe out there.
You know it's getting wintertime.
It is, so if you live anywhere where it starts getting cold, be careful.
Yes, watch watch how you're driving.
And it's not yourself, it's everybody else you have to watch for.
It's crazy drivers out there today.
So have a good night, have a good weekend.
We'll see you on.
Speaker 2Thursday, Thursday.
We may we may set up some kind of investigation.
Yeah with uh baby girl casper Head if if she's willing, if this Thursday would be a good time.
What do you think is there internet?
I think she's on on the computer.
They should be internet.
We'll find out well all sales, I'll talk to her, yeah.
Speaker 3Because it's sells signal we'll need.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Anyway, Yep, we're gonna come up with something good for Thursday.
Speaker 3We figure something out for sure.
Speaker 2Thank you everybody.
Speaker 3Thanks everybody.
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