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How Patrick Mahomes’ Injury Changed the Lines vs. Tennessee | AA Mini-Cast

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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll go back to the AA minicast bedding addition, destroying homes in McMillan, follow him on the X at Ian McBeth's myself at Home Stretch KC.

[SPEAKER_01]: He cannot even contain the joy as the king falls in the king not only falls, but injures his left knee and the left knee is toast.

[SPEAKER_01]: Ian, how are you?

[SPEAKER_00]: Um, um, um, I'm doing well, Sterling, that the Patrick Holmes injury is unfortunate for a lot of reasons.

[SPEAKER_00]: One of them, um, the main reason for me personally, uh, is that I think it's hard for chiefs, haters or people who are tiering against the chiefs and now kind of like, break and like make fun of the fact that chiefs are out of the playoffs because now it's like, you feel like a jerk because back where Holmes knee blew up.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they weren't going to make it either way.

[SPEAKER_01]: So, [SPEAKER_00]: Wow, I was going to ask you how, like our other cheese fans out there that think like if that didn't happen like you guys are going to make the playoffs.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, really did they in a 12% chance even if they won that game?

[SPEAKER_01]: Like it wasn't like they had this great percentage.

[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, right into that game.

[SPEAKER_00]: I'm saying it's crazy that there's two fans that think that you guys like still we're going to make the playoffs and like like it was the home's injury that end of it.

[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, that was just the the cherry on top of the [SPEAKER_01]: expired melted ice cream sunday can ask you an actual question oh sure i love actual questions how like what you have been you're a little bit younger than me i think you're what thirty thirty one thirty one [SPEAKER_00]: So your the chiefs have won the AFC West or at least been in the playoffs every year that you've like been in sports media, right?

[SPEAKER_00]: Is like is this is your first time covering the chiefs as a sports media guy in Kansas City with them being eliminated with three weeks to go?

[SPEAKER_01]: Actually covering yes.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they'd won seven straight or they'd been to seven straight AFC championship games.

[SPEAKER_01]: Um, obviously growing up.

[SPEAKER_01]: I grew up in the bad chiefs era, which was a lot of chiefs history, obviously, but I grew up in high school, and a lot through college, um, a bad chiefs era, right, but one time is covering the team as part of your job.

[SPEAKER_01]: Correct.

[SPEAKER_01]: In terms of covering the team, this has been the first team that's been like, wow.

[SPEAKER_00]: Not great, Bob.

[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.

[SPEAKER_00]: They made the playoffs every year going back.

[SPEAKER_00]: 2014 was the last time they didn't make the playoffs.

[SPEAKER_01]: Correct.

[SPEAKER_00]: Crazy.

[SPEAKER_00]: That's a crazy run.

[SPEAKER_00]: That's wild.

[SPEAKER_00]: That's like the three years before the 28 to three game.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because the they went, uh, was at 2 in 14 and 2012.

[SPEAKER_01]: got Eric Fisher, because there was no quarterback in that draft.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.

[SPEAKER_01]: And then Andy Reid eventually came over and things turned around with Andy Reid came over.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_00]: So like, how does it feel now that like you still, I assume, I mean, it's not like your jobs over now, the chiefs are eliminated.

[SPEAKER_00]: You work in sports media, you still have to talk chiefs for the next three weeks, even though these games are meaningless, you're still going to have to cover the playoffs with a chiefs aren't in it.

[SPEAKER_00]: Like, how do you [SPEAKER_00]: Thanks, I hate it, so yeah, it's got to be a lot less enjoyable, isn't it?

[SPEAKER_01]: Well, it's less enjoyable, because when the team was bad, [SPEAKER_01]: you didn't have expectations.

[SPEAKER_01]: There were no expectations.

[SPEAKER_00]: And when the team's bad, there's a lot to talk about in terms of the future and things you got to change.

[SPEAKER_00]: I guess there's things to talk about in terms of things you have to change, I guess.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but I think a lot of it is schematic.

[SPEAKER_01]: It's not like they need to find the quarterback or they need to do this.

[SPEAKER_01]: It's a lot of this is the same scheme since 2022.

[SPEAKER_01]: It's antiquated.

[SPEAKER_01]: It's outdated.

[SPEAKER_01]: some point it caught up to them.

[SPEAKER_01]: It's been catching up to them in 23 and 24, but the Super Bowl win and Super Bowl loss masked the ugliness that persisted, especially in the offense.

[SPEAKER_01]: More or less, I'm talking off in here.

[SPEAKER_01]: And now you have the injury to Patrick it's just not as enjoyable because it's not like a Okay, Patrick finally gets a full off season.

[SPEAKER_01]: No, we're talking about well, Chris Jones took a step back Travis Kelsey looks like he's probably going to retire Patrick Moholms torn AC.

[SPEAKER_01]: I'll just it's just a plethora of [SPEAKER_01]: bad things stacked on top of each other.

[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm happy for all these other teams.

[SPEAKER_01]: They get a chance like I don't like Patriots fans because everything's a Tom Brady thing.

[SPEAKER_01]: Everything, it's obnoxious.

[SPEAKER_01]: We get it, Tom Brady's the goat.

[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think anyone's arguing that.

[SPEAKER_01]: Tom Brady is the look at the rings, look at his hands, plural hands.

[SPEAKER_01]: Like he has rings on hands, not hand hands.

[SPEAKER_01]: No one's saying that.

[SPEAKER_01]: We'll tell him, ready to do this.

[SPEAKER_01]: Dog, chill, no one inserted him into the conversation.

[SPEAKER_01]: We get it.

[SPEAKER_01]: We understand, I'm happy for the Patriots because Drake may look the part.

[SPEAKER_01]: I'm happy for the bills because the chiefs no longer have to take them out of the playoffs and they should, if the bills don't win this year, by the way, the bills, my goodness.

[SPEAKER_01]: There might be no more, no Patrick and no Joe Burrow.

[SPEAKER_01]: If John and the bills can't do it, sorry, that might be your curse.

[SPEAKER_01]: You're done.

[SPEAKER_01]: Sorry, pack it up, pack it in.

[SPEAKER_01]: Let me begin.

[SPEAKER_00]: That won't allow me to be in a sharp experiment for sure.

[SPEAKER_00]: That's getting rid of Sean.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's Sean McDermond.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's like super roller bust.

[SPEAKER_01]: But you have used an in Jacksonville in fun stories, right?

[SPEAKER_01]: Like, yeah, I love this kind of thing.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's my dream.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's out of the, the only thing that make these playoffs better for me would be if the Falcons were in it.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_01]: Would you lost that bet?

[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, and then like the Eagles don't look to be anything.

[SPEAKER_01]: So like, we might be looking at a complete, I mean, is it going to be like Seattle and Jacksonville?

[SPEAKER_01]: Like that's a real possibility.

[SPEAKER_00]: Why not?

[SPEAKER_00]: So I don't know.

[SPEAKER_00]: And that aspect, what I wrote for, that's why I was so like last year and this is why Chiefs fans were mad at me last year because I was just like I'm so sick of it being the Chiefs or the Eagles or the 49ers every single year because I want new blood.

[SPEAKER_00]: I want different storylines, I want different players, I want different fan bases.

[SPEAKER_00]: So this is the dream for me.

[SPEAKER_01]: Well, if you want blood, you've got it, ACDC told us that.

[SPEAKER_01]: The line is three and a half against the Titans, and I'm laughing.

[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, would you have told would you have thought before the season began in week 16, you would only be three, three, and half of my favorites against the Tennessee Titans.

[SPEAKER_01]: Wow, Cam Ward is the MVP.

[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

[SPEAKER_00]: If I told you that was the case, your response to be wow, Titans must be having a great year.

[SPEAKER_00]: Cam Ward's unreal.

[SPEAKER_01]: Two or three leading receivers are tied in for the Titans, by the way.

[SPEAKER_01]: Well, no, it's Garner mince you obviously at quarterback.

[SPEAKER_01]: I think the Titans have played some pretty good football recently, like not good football, but they've taken a step forward, at least.

[SPEAKER_01]: Like, maybe they've twins.

[SPEAKER_01]: I know, it doesn't show up in the record in all that stuff.

[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not saying they're a good team in that don't don't get it conflicted, but I don't think that these are two teams without Patrick right now and with the offensive inefficiencies of the chiefs are like that drastically far off, like I think the lines okay.

[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I did agree.

[SPEAKER_00]: And the chiefs probably went by three or four in the betting market.

[SPEAKER_00]: No, it's better than me in the betting market.

[SPEAKER_00]: It says it should be a three points bread.

[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, the product market would agree with you.

[SPEAKER_01]: Well, the Betty Mark has been wrong a lot because the keep hasn't achieved his three points favorites and the keep losing.

[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, that's true.

[SPEAKER_00]: Is there anyone not playing outside of Patrick Holmes this weekend for the chiefs?

[SPEAKER_01]: I will see if Nick Bolton plays or Chris Jones.

[SPEAKER_01]: Both got a little banged up in that game.

[SPEAKER_01]: We'll find out.

[SPEAKER_00]: So like so what the Betty Mark is saying is Patrick Holmes is worth what?

[SPEAKER_00]: Like six points to the spread then over Gardner made.

[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, points.

[SPEAKER_01]: It was 11 and a half to three and a half eight points.

[SPEAKER_00]: Was it 11 and a half before last week?

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_01]: Like on a look ahead, line eight points.

[SPEAKER_00]: That's, I don't know if that's right.

[SPEAKER_00]: No, no, no, I'm not saying like I believe you.

[SPEAKER_00]: I'm saying I don't know if I agree with that.

[SPEAKER_00]: So that's why I like the Chiefs this weekend.

[SPEAKER_00]: This year, the Chiefs are going to pass your homes.

[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think it's eight points better than Gardener minceo.

[SPEAKER_01]: All the EPA numbers screaming.

[SPEAKER_01]: I know the eye test and some of the, [SPEAKER_01]: I get it dude.

[SPEAKER_01]: The traditional stats and the eye test, you're like Patrick's struggled this year.

[SPEAKER_01]: And the EPA numbers are like, he is keeping the chiefs from being the Titans.

[SPEAKER_01]: It's why I don't know.

[SPEAKER_00]: I mean the chiefs defense is way better in the Titans defense.

[SPEAKER_01]: Correct, correct.

[SPEAKER_01]: But Jeffrey Simmons and to Vandre sweater a really good one-two punch in that D-line against a banged up chiefs offensive line.

[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, man.

[SPEAKER_01]: It's not good.

[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not thrilled by it.

[SPEAKER_01]: Over under.

[SPEAKER_01]: What do you got?

[SPEAKER_00]: I don't even look at the over under 37.5 over.

[SPEAKER_00]: I believe in Gardner Minciw.

[SPEAKER_00]: Sue me.

[SPEAKER_00]: I think Gardner Minciw is going to look pretty good in this game.

[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, you might.

[SPEAKER_00]: I think I think after this game, you were like, oh, okay Gardner Minciw.

[SPEAKER_01]: I hope so.

[SPEAKER_00]: Gardner meant she was had some good guy.

[SPEAKER_00]: Gardner meant she was issue was that like he turns the ball over too much, but he's a gunslinger.

[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, fun.

[SPEAKER_00]: He's like kind of like Jay's like kind of like James Winston light.

[SPEAKER_01]: With a great mustache.

[SPEAKER_00]: Great mustache, fun.

[SPEAKER_01]: And lovely light.

[SPEAKER_01]: No, I like Gardner meant you.

[SPEAKER_01]: It's just a bummer when you're quarterback tears as ACL when you had Super Bowl aspirations.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, well, my quarterback is on.

[SPEAKER_00]: No, about his ACL too.

[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, if you'd have super aspirations or difference here.

[SPEAKER_00]: No, but yeah, but the difference is like we really need to them to have a full off season of development and now that's gone.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_01]: I guess it could be a cheese fan.

[SPEAKER_01]: It could be worse.

[SPEAKER_01]: We could be Falcon's fans.

[SPEAKER_00]: Well, funny to bring that up.

[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I'm rooting for for the rest of the season.

[SPEAKER_00]: Our teams are one win away from each other.

[SPEAKER_00]: I think if the Falcon's finished with a better record than the chiefs, same record as the chiefs, my Falcon's back gets white clean.

[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know how that's fair that it's not what we bet on.

[SPEAKER_00]: I know what it's all I'm adding in a twist.

[SPEAKER_00]: I don't like to deny it.

[SPEAKER_00]: Chiefs are six and eight Falcons are five and nine.

[SPEAKER_00]: One game away.

[SPEAKER_00]: Demi difference between you and I and my friend.

[SPEAKER_00]: Not much difference between you and I.

[SPEAKER_01]: Because I'm also rooting for the chiefs to lose for a better draft pick.

[SPEAKER_01]: What do you mean?

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's the thing I can't do about the Falcons because we don't have a draft pick.

[SPEAKER_01]: Ooh, see, it could be worse.

[SPEAKER_01]: We could be Falkin's fans.

[SPEAKER_00]: They traded the first round pick for James Pierce, who's leading all rookies and sacks.

[SPEAKER_00]: So it's always been great.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm not if he was rushing a lot more upsetting, but he was in very good.

[SPEAKER_01]: So your past rush promise solved.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but now everything else is a problem.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, everything else is a problem.

[SPEAKER_00]: But this is not a Falcons podcast.

[SPEAKER_00]: We don't have to talk about Falcons.

[SPEAKER_01]: So you like the over in this one.

[SPEAKER_01]: You think Gunslinger, Gardner, carries the chiefs to a big victory, at least winning by three and a half.

[SPEAKER_01]: And in the over's gunna hit, any players that you're looking at in this one.

[SPEAKER_00]: Gardner, again, I'm all in on Gardner this week.

[SPEAKER_00]: What do you think Gardner mentioned?

[SPEAKER_00]: Passing her, it's total is set out.

[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, dude, that's like 188.

[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, maybe you like the under then two 12.

[SPEAKER_00]: I thought that two 12 is low.

[SPEAKER_00]: My second guess was two 12.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_01]: I feel you see one 88 or two 12 a lot.

[SPEAKER_01]: Um, I still like the over probably I bet it goes for like 240.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_00]: People forget.

[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, God, I'm in to you.

[SPEAKER_00]: He's not bad.

[SPEAKER_01]: Would you sprinkle one for like a 275 plus in there?

[SPEAKER_01]: Just for fun.

[SPEAKER_01]: Sure.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_00]: Well, yeah.

[SPEAKER_00]: I got all passing yards here.

[SPEAKER_00]: What do we go for all passing yards?

[SPEAKER_00]: 275 plus 390.

[SPEAKER_00]: Almost 41 odds from the throw 275 or more.

[SPEAKER_01]: Oh man.

[SPEAKER_01]: Do you do it?

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_00]: You can do that against this Titan's defense.

[SPEAKER_00]: I wouldn't be doing that against if he was facing the Texans or the Broncos this weekend.

[SPEAKER_00]: But against a Titan's a sprinkle that a little bit.

[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

[SPEAKER_00]: What else you looking at?

[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, it's just about it.

[SPEAKER_00]: Not a lot.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's kind of tough to bet on a game between two teams eliminated from the playoffs.

[SPEAKER_00]: My strategy is basically just go all in.

[SPEAKER_00]: I'll go all in on Gardener Menshu.

[SPEAKER_00]: You can do Gardener Menshu over one and a half passing touchdowns at two to one.

[SPEAKER_01]: Let me look something up real quick.

[SPEAKER_01]: Let me get a little looksy here.

[SPEAKER_01]: I know it's not all going to be put on at this time.

[SPEAKER_01]: Let me give a little, little looksy right here.

[SPEAKER_00]: What are you looking for?

[SPEAKER_01]: Ooh, they don't have it.

[SPEAKER_01]: Let me see a little touchdown score.

[SPEAKER_01]: Do they, are they going to do some crazy?

[SPEAKER_01]: Should go see him a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, [SPEAKER_01]: Like, if Jillian Royals overrunters make 0.5, I'll take the over.

[SPEAKER_00]: He caught a pass this year?

[SPEAKER_01]: No.

[SPEAKER_00]: No, I didn't think I released him from my Dynasty team.

[SPEAKER_01]: No.

[SPEAKER_00]: Well, you think they might just give the young guys some looks to see what they have?

[SPEAKER_00]: Some looks.

[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think a ton.

[SPEAKER_00]: But I think some.

[SPEAKER_01]: Same thing with, like, Bershardsmith.

[SPEAKER_01]: I would be intrigued at what his line ends up being prior to the game, receiving an en route in rushing.

[SPEAKER_01]: But it was like nine and a half.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, over.

[SPEAKER_01]: Like some of those smaller ones with a young guys, I'd be intrigued.

[SPEAKER_01]: Again, I don't think they're gonna get like 15 carries or like five targets, but yeah, just maybe a quick screen and a quick wide receiver screen to Jalen Royals.

[SPEAKER_01]: A couple of handoffs to pretty short early in the game, just to see what he can do.

[SPEAKER_01]: If they don't, I'll be upset.

[SPEAKER_01]: I don't need to see Isaiah Pacheco run the ball 20 times this game.

[SPEAKER_01]: That does nothing.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I can do behind that.

[SPEAKER_00]: I like that quite a bit.

[SPEAKER_00]: I think that's something you kind of wait till gay day off to see, because you'll probably get a little bit more of an indication whether or not those types of guys are going to get some work as we get closer to the game.

[SPEAKER_00]: So that's what I mean.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, if it sounds like they're going to get some kind of look or even be on the game day roster, be you know, get it not a healthy scratch, then yeah, sure.

[SPEAKER_01]: So what we're looking at here is in Conquo, it touched down.

[SPEAKER_01]: We're looking at the over in this game and loves the chiefs.

[SPEAKER_01]: He thinks, oh man, they're gonna hammer them the gardener menu.

[SPEAKER_01]: He likes the over on gardener menu pass yards.

[SPEAKER_01]: I think she's one of my double digits.

[SPEAKER_01]: I think, ooh, I think that I would sprinkle a little bit on if it's available.

[SPEAKER_01]: Jill and Royals are for Shardsmith.

[SPEAKER_01]: I think the final game of the season.

[SPEAKER_01]: For KC, I'm going to be pretty heavily into the Travis Kelsey market because that might be his final game.

[SPEAKER_01]: And I think they're going to force feed that guy so much.

[SPEAKER_01]: If you think he's not going to score a touchdown in his final game, I think you're at your gourd.

[SPEAKER_01]: But that's a couple weeks away.

[SPEAKER_00]: If Gardner Minschou played his really well these last three weeks and they go three now and he throws the average 300 yards of games or quarterback on traversing Kansas City.

[SPEAKER_01]: This was the A-A mini cast, betting edition, Ian McMillan, follow him on the X at Ian McBets Myself at Home Stretch KC.

[SPEAKER_01]: Thanks, Ian.

[SPEAKER_00]: I was a joke, everyone.

[SPEAKER_00]: That was a joke.

[SPEAKER_00]: Don't come at me, my DMs.

[SPEAKER_00]: Thanks, guys.

[SPEAKER_00]: Good luck to the Chiefs, though, Chiefs, go.

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