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November Knockdowns: Curry’s 49 and a League on Edge
Episode Transcript
Welcome to the Deep Dive, the place where we cut through all the noise of the sports world and really give you the essential nuggets you need to understand the state of basketball right now.
Speaker 2And we just had an absolutely high octane weekend.
We're talking November fifteenth and sixteenth, twenty twenty five.
It delivered, I mean everything, history making performances in the NBA, some really significant season altering injuries, oh yeah, and that's in both the pros and college.
And then you have these nail biting finishes that they tell you way more about a team's character than any blowout.
Speaker 3Ever could exactly.
Speaker 1Our mission in this Deep Dive is to take this whole stack of results and news and rumors and give you the distilled truth.
We're focusing on the big individual performances, but also trying to understand the deep crisis that injuries are creating for some of these franchises, and we'll dissect those college games that went right down.
Speaker 3To the wire.
Speaker 1We're really looking for the why behind the wins and losses and how some of the most unheralded players are becoming these emergency here.
Okay, let's unpack this.
Starting with the NBA superstars putting up just monumental numbers, and we absolutely have to begin this conversation with a player who seems to be defying both gravity and well time itself.
Speaker 2Stephen Curry the Golden State Warriors.
They managed to pull out a crucial, really gritty win against the San Antonio Spurs.
This was for the NBA Cup tournament final score one oh nine, one oweight, so close, and this is a massive result.
I mean, not just for the tournament's standings, but for a team that, let's be honest, relies so heavily on its aging core to deliver these high leverage moments.
Speaker 1And when you talked about high leverage, you were talking about Curry just completely taking over.
He dropped a season high forty nine points.
Speaker 2Forty nine.
Speaker 1But what really makes this performance legendary is how he scored them.
Thirty one of those points came in the second half.
He wasn't just warming up.
It felt like he was waiting, you know, waiting for the exact moment to completely seize control.
Speaker 3Of the game.
Speaker 2That patience and that explosion that's been the trademark of his whole career.
But here's where the real historical weight comes in.
This is why you should pay attention to this specific forty nine point night.
Curry is now thirty seven years old.
Speaker 3Thirty seven, It's just incredible.
Speaker 2And by hitting forty nine, he just tied Michael Jordan for the most forty point games in league history after turning thirty years old.
That's forty four of those games.
Speaker 1Forty four games is that's a massive longevity milestone.
I mean, we talk a lot about players maintaining their athleticism deep into their careers, but Curry's game is built on something different.
It's constant, relentless.
Speaker 3Off ball movement.
Speaker 1It requires insane cardio, quick twitch, muscle health, precision balance to still be doing this.
Hitting forty plus with this kind of frequency at thirty seven, it just speaks to a meticulous approach to his health that very few players have ever managed.
He's forcing a conversation about where he ranks among all time athletes in terms of sustained late career dominance.
Speaker 2And he proved it in the most high pressure situation the NBA Cup can offer.
The Warriors are trailing by one and gets fouled by Daran Fox with just six point four seconds left on the clock, puts him on the line for the.
Speaker 1Lead, and he didn't just sink the free throws to seal that one point win.
He played the crowd beautifully.
The report mentions he was playfully mocking the fans who were trying to distract him right before.
Speaker 3He took those shots.
Speaker 1Yeah, it tells you everything about his mindset.
He treats that pressure not as an obstacle, but as the moment he was built for.
He's totally aware of the drama and he just actively embraces it.
Speaker 2That swagger is so critical, But we have to dissect the dynamic against the Spurs here.
This was a two game sweep by the Warriors, which really solidifies this early season rivalry they've got going.
And despite the loss, we saw Victor Wembanyama continue his development.
He posted a very strong line twenty six points, twelve rebounds, four assists, and three blocks in thirty eight minutes.
Speaker 1And the moment everyone's going to remember even in the loss, was Wemby's crucial defensive masterpiece.
With thirty three seconds left, Jimmy Butler, another VET who had twenty one points, drives hard for what should have been the game ceiling.
Speaker 2Layup and one Binyama just rejects it out of nowhere.
He keeps the Spurs in the lead one eight, one oh seven.
An incredible play.
Speaker 3An incredible play.
Speaker 1But what's fascinating here is how the veteran Warriors were able to just leverage their experience.
Immediately after that, the Spurs that get this huge momentum boos from the block, and then they failed to execute on their own possession.
They miss a crucial seventeen footer with twelve seconds.
Speaker 2Left, And that's the difference, That lack of veteran composure in the final seconds, that inability to capitalize it immediately set the stage for Curry to win the game at the free throw line.
The Warriors didn't paddicck.
They just relied on their start.
Speaker 1It's a harsh lesson for the Spurs.
I mean, Darren Fox had a strong game himself twenty four points, ten asists, But in those final seconds, that one little defensive laps that led to Curry's free throws, that was the entire game, all right.
Let's shift gears dramatically over to Madison Square Garden, where the Knicks were in a pure offensive explosion defeating the Miami Heat on six.
Also in this high stakes NBA Cup format.
This was a survival exercise for New York.
Speaker 2It absolutely was.
They were already visiting their primary engine, Jalen Brunson, and then disaster just five minutes into the game OG and a Numbi creaks his hamstring and he does not return.
Speaker 1Wow.
So that leaves a massive hole in their starting five, especially on the defensive end.
A team that loses its top two ball handlers and a top defender, I mean, they usually just fold.
Speaker 2They do, Yet they put up one hundred and forty points.
And that's why we need to talk Aboutkarl Anthony Towns.
He stepped right into that void and just delivered a huge performance.
Thirty nine points, eleven rebounds, four assists, and on a really clean fifty percent shooting.
He was the anchor they desperately needed.
Speaker 1He was, But the truly insightful moment came from Town's own self governance.
He was on track to maybe chase fifty, maybe even sixty points, but he consciously throttled back in the second half.
He actually said he didn't want to force trying to get sixty.
Speaker 3And lose the game.
Speaker 2That's a huge shift for him, isn't it.
Speaker 1It speaks volumes about his development and maturity.
For years, you know, critics focused on his ability to pads stick.
Now you see a player who's prioritizing team success and efficient offense over his own ego.
Speaker 2Yeah, and that kind of maturity is just vital for the Knick system, especially when they need that complimentary scoring around Brunson when he comes back.
Speaker 1But New York doesn't get to one forty without the surprise spark from the bench.
I mean Landry Shammitt, who has mostly been known as just a volume three point guy.
He exploded for a career night thirty six points on an incredible sixty three point two percent shooting.
Speaker 2That is the absolute definition of an emergency hero.
Shammitt, alongside Jordan Clarkson, who added twenty four points off the bench, they completely dictated the pace and the volume of the game right.
Usually when your stars are out, the ball stagnates, but the numbers tell a completely different story here.
Thirty two team assists and twenty one made threes.
Speaker 1Thirty two assists is just phenomenal, especially when you consider that neither Brunson nor On in ab two of their best passers and decision makers were in the game for long.
So what does that assist number tell us mechanically about their offense.
Speaker 2It means the ball didn't rely on isolation.
It suggests they ran specific actions, you know, maybe more off ball screens, quick catch and shoot looks, and using towns as that high post hub to leverage the shooting gravity of Shamman and Clarkson.
Instead of forcing bad shots.
The open roster spots actually mandated better ball movement and more discipline.
Speaker 3That's a huge positive for their coaching staff.
Speaker 1Then it shows that their depth can execute some really high level offensive principle.
Speaker 2For sure, But you have to credit the heat for staying in the fight.
Norman Powell poured in thirty eight points, and that rookie Himiak is junior, he continues to impress twenty three points, nine rebounds, seven assists for him.
Kilaware also put up a nice fifteen to ten, but the collective just totally unexpected scoring from New York's secondary guys was simply overwhelming.
Speaker 1Now we make the difficult transition from analyzing these superstar successes to charting the course for teams dealing with early season catastrophe.
Here's where it gets really interesting.
How do teams cope when the stars go down because the difference between winning and losing in the modern NBA so often comes down to the quality of the ninth and tenth man on your roster, and no.
Speaker 2Team illustrates this better than the Indiana Pacers, who are just facing a cascading depth crisis right now.
The big headline this weekend was the injury to Aaron Neesmith.
He's sidelined for at least four weeks, probably returning around December fifteenth, with his sprained left knee he got against Phoenix.
Speaker 1Okay, so four weeks out for a key contributor is usually devastating news, especially for a team that's sitting at a league worst one to eleven record, and yet Coatrick Carlisle described the news as very very good.
That seems like the strangest quote of the weekend.
What's going on there?
Speaker 2It's the sound of a team that's already faced the worst case scenario and is now just dealing with minor miracles.
Carlisle's relief comes from the fact that Niesmith is walking and he's not in a brace.
It confirms the injury avoided major structural damage, which was the big fear given their injury luck.
I see, but we can't demand Nie Smith's actual value here.
He was averaging a career best fifteen point five points and four point five rebounds, and most tellingly, he dropped a career high thirty one points in the pacers only win of.
Speaker 3The season against Golden State.
Speaker 2Right right.
He was their reliable source of secondary offense, and his loss just compounds an already dire situation that, as you know, started tragically.
Speaker 1Absolutely, the Pacers are completely decimated.
They're all star point guard Tyrese Halliburn, the whole engine of their team.
He's out for the season with that torn achilles.
Speaker 2Yeah, torn achilles in the finals.
When you lose a player of that caliber for the year, your whole team identity just fundamentally shifts.
But it gets worse.
Speaker 3It does.
Speaker 1Benedict Mathrin is out with a toe injury ogi top, and a key reserve is dealing with a stress fracture in his right foot.
Speaker 2The only and I mean only silver line that you can find is that Andrew Impart just came back after missing six games.
But when you have five or six rotational players out, including your star, for the entire season, there's just no system or coach that can truly compensate for that.
Their one to eleven record isn't surprising.
It's a direct reflection of this extreme.
Speaker 3Injury luck but adversity.
Speaker 1As we mentioned, it's the great catalyst for opportunity, and we saw that in full effect in Detroit with the rise of a guy named Denis Jenkins.
Speaker 2This is one of the most compelling stories of a player just seizing the moment.
Jenkins, he's an undrafted G league grinder who started the year on a two way contract, and he is now playing himself directly into a guaranteed full time roster spot for the Pistons.
Speaker 3So what are his numbers looking.
Speaker 2Like his recent three game stretch is It's not just good for a two way player, it's excellent for an NBA starter.
He's averaging twenty points, five rebounds, and eight assists, and he is doing it with absolutely shocking efficiency, really, forty seven percent for the field and a scorching fifty six percent from three point range.
Speaker 1Wow, fifty six percent from three Even if that's a small sample size, that's a game changer for Detroit.
So why is Jenkins's rise so critical to the long term vision of the Pistons, specifically with Kate Cunningham.
Speaker 2It's all about the press relief.
We saw the Pistons relying way too much on Cunningham.
I mean he recently had to take forty five shots in a single.
Speaker 3Game, forty five.
Speaker 2Jenkins's high efficiency, especially from three, it forces defenses to respect him.
It pulls defenders away from the paint and opens up those driving lanes for cade.
Jenkins can score from all three levels, and his ability to run the second unit or even play off ball next to Kaide provides the exact spacing and secondary playmaking the team desperately needed.
Speaker 1And he's not just an offensive threat, right he brings a real defensive intensity.
Speaker 2That's his identity.
He's averaging over two steals per game during this stretch, establishing himself as this hard nosed, gritty defender.
That's why his quote about the group being nasty dogs resonates so strongly.
He embodies the mentality of a player who had to fight for every single minute in the G League, and now he's bringing that hunger to the pros.
He's already showing the traits of a long term NBA piece who has more than earned a guaranteed contract.
It's a massive organizational win for Detroit.
Speaker 3Moving on to injury management, we saw some decisions this weekend that tied directly into our final thought for this deep dive, the physical toll of the NBA Cup.
Speaker 2Yes, the Charlotte Hornets, they chose caution.
They ruled out LaMelo ball against the Thunder and this was explicit injury management for an ankle issue during a back to back.
Speaker 1And ball is obviously integral to their success.
He's averaging what twenty two point three point seven point one rebounds and almost ten asists a game.
When you remove a player responsible for nearly fifty points of offense between his scoring and assists, the whole team faces a massive challenge.
Speaker 2But that challenge created opportunities.
Trem Mann and Colin Sexton were expected to shoulder the point guard duties, but this also directly resulted in significant playing time for the twenty twenty five rookie kon kareple, which lets the Hornets evaluate their young talent under real pressure.
Speaker 1And similarly, the Phoenix Suns were navigating injuries against the Hawks.
Grayson Allen was ruled day to day with a right quad contusion.
Speaker 2Yeah, coach Jordan not Sages that it wasn't too serious, but it still forced a lineup change.
Colin Gillespie had to start the second half in Allen's place.
This reliance on depth, even for short term stuff, it just shows the strain of the early season.
Speaker 1But the longer term concern for Phoenix is Jalen Green.
He's now set to be reevaluated in four to six weeks after reaggravating that right hamstring strain, the same one that bothered him in training.
Speaker 2Camp, and hamstring issues are notoriously difficult to manage, especially for explosive athletes like him.
A six week timeline puts him out deep into December, removing a crucial scoring punch from their rotation.
Speaker 1And of course, the Hawks were also shorthanded, still missing their star Trey Young with that mcl sprain.
It just feels like the weekend was defined by stars on the sideline.
Speaker 2It really was.
Out West.
The Memphis Grizzlies added to the entry list when Ja Morant exited just six minutes into their game against the Cavaliers with a sore right calf.
Speaker 1And Morant's exit, even though he was only in for a few minutes, it seemed to just suck the air out of Memphis.
They really sixty one fifty fourth a half, But the Cavaliers, powered by Donovan Mitchell's veteran brilliance, they just mounted a rally.
Speaker 2Mitchell was fantastic.
He scored thirty points, including fourteen in that crucial fourth quarter, leading the Cavs to a one on eight, one hundred victory.
This is a perfect example of a veteran led team capitalizing on the instability caused by a star's sudden exit.
Evan Mobley also chipped in with twenty two and thirteen.
Speaker 1For Cleveland, but the Rizzlies did get a highly anticipated season debut in that loss.
Speaker 2Yes, the seven foot three centers Zach Edy, the ninth overall pick from Purdue.
He finally made his season debut after recovering from left ankle surgery back in June, and he showed flashes of what the Grizzlies are hoping for.
He contributed thirteen points in seven.
Speaker 3Rebounds, and most of that came in the third quarter.
Speaker 2Right Yeah, Eight of those points came in the third when Memphis still had a slight lead.
For a young team trying to rebuild its identity, just Having Edie healthy and back on the court is a massive step forward for their future.
Speaker 1This whole situation from Memphis brings up those recent comments from Marcus Smart, who suggested the Grizzlies downturn, the losses, the injuries, the whole vibe was entirely predictable.
Why exactly what were the underlying issues he was pointing to beyond just jaws injury.
Speaker 2Smart's comments likely address two things.
First, the lack of depth and consistent veteran perimeter play outside of himself and Desmbane, And second, the structural dependency on Morant's hyper aggressive style, which, while it's exciting, often leads to chaos and sometimes neglects fundamental defense when he's not one hundred percent.
Speaker 3So it's a higher risk, high rewards.
Speaker 2System exactly, and when you rely on that, the margin for air when your star goes down shrinks to almost nothing.
The team's inability to hold a lead against the Cavs without Morant, despite Edie's solid debut, is pretty much proof of that structural issue.
Speaker 3Quick hit before we move on.
Speaker 1Nikolajokich had another triple double as the Denver Nuggets defeated Minnesota Timberwolves.
Some things never change.
Even when the rest of the league is in total chaos.
Speaker 2Some things never change.
Speaker 1Okay, now let's focus on organizational term.
In New Orleans, the Pelicans made the most significant front office shift of the weekend by firing their head coach, Willie Green.
Speaker 2This decision was swift.
It came after an abysmal two ten start to the twenty twenty five to twenty sixth season.
Green compiled a one to fifty, one to ninety record over five seasons.
The message here is pretty clear.
The front office felt that despite the talent on the roster you know, Zion Williamson, brandon Ingram, the team was drastically underperforming.
Speaker 1And a change was needed to try and ignite a playoff push.
So stepping in is James Barrego, who was an associate head coach for them and previously the head coach of the Hornets.
What does a transition to Barrego typically mean for a team's style of play.
Speaker 2Barrego generally favors a more fast paced, high volume offense, but he also focuses heavily on generating spacing and really utilizing the three point line.
The interesting dynamic is that the Pelicans might be getting a major piece back right as Barrego takes over, Zion Williamson has been upgraded to questionable for their.
Speaker 3Next game against Curry's Warriors.
Speaker 2No less right, Zion's been sidelined since November two with a hamstring injury, but in his five games this season, he was productive twenty two point eight points, six point eight rebounds, four point six assists.
Speaker 3His return is paramount for them.
Speaker 1They desperately need his interior presence, especially after losing their fourth straight game to the Lakers on Friday.
Trey Murphy the Third did have a huge night in that loss.
He dropped thirty five points, and he credited that to aggression and film work.
Speaker 2But consistent secondary scoring isn't enough when you're two ten.
You need your foundational star healthy and dominating.
Berego's immediate challenge will be integrating Zion back into a cohesive system while trying to stabilize a defense that has just been porous.
Speaker 1And just to wrap up the personal side of the NBA grind, Karl Anthony Towns, fresh off that incredible thirty nine point night for the Knicks, celebrated his thirtieth birthday by receiving a new car from his girlfriend Jordan Woods.
It's a nice little moment of normalcy amidst this cutthroat, high stakes tournament environment.
Speaker 2Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 3Shifting gears.
Speaker 1Now to college hoops, where the intense city of the early season non conference schedule created its own brand of chaos.
We saw two major themes emerge, elite teams surviving these down to the wire battles and one star suffering a truly terrifying team shifting injury.
Speaker 2Let's start with the Marquee matchup.
It was a top ten thriller in Boston where number three Yukon edged out number seven BYU eighty six eighty four.
This was Yukon's first real gut check of a brutal early season schedule.
The Huskies really had to demonstrate their championship pedigree to pull this one out.
Speaker 1And Yukon secured the win through supreme balance.
Terrorist Reed Junior, Alex Caraban, and Silas to Mary Junior all dropped twenty one points each.
Demary was particularly crucial though.
He had seven assists, five rebounds, and most importantly, the game sealing steal at the end.
He just poked the ball away from BYU's Robert right the third, ending the Cougar's hopes right there.
Speaker 2And BYU's effort was so admirable, especially when you consider they were shorthanded.
They were missing their suspended starting point guard Cannard Davis Junior and an injured forward Quebecki.
Speaker 1So they relied heavily on that star freshman aj Dubantsa exactly.
Speaker 2He was playing near his hometown and he led the Cougars with twenty five points.
He was fantastic.
Speaker 1The drama in that final minute was just palpable.
BYU fought back from a late deficit.
They cut it to just two points eighty four eighty two on a Dawson Baker three pointer.
It's a one possession game, and that's when Demary's defensive play happened.
Right.
Speaker 2But if you want to understand why Yukon won and BYU lost despite how close the score was, you have to look beyond that final basket and focus on the box score.
We flagged this earlier.
Yukon demonstrated phenomenal ball movement.
They recorded twenty one assists on thirty made field.
Speaker 1Goals, so that translates to almost seventy percent of their baskets being assisted exactly BYU.
Speaker 2On the other hand, hampered by their personnel issues and maybe relying a bit too much onto Bansa to create on his own, they only managed seven assists on twenty nine baskets.
Speaker 1Wow, that is a staggering difference twenty one assists versus seven.
What does that gap fundamentally tell us about the stuf isle of play in game that's that high leverage.
Speaker 2It tells us that Yukon relies on process and teamwork.
They're ensuring high quality shots through bowl movement and multiple passes BYU.
When they were pushed to the wire, they defaulted to players taking high difficulty self created shots, which are just way less efficient, especially when the defense tightens up.
Yukon's reliance on cohesive offense allowed them to overcome BYU's star power in that environment, and that bodes extremely well for the huskies tournament future.
Speaker 1Now for the most emotionally difficult story of the weekend, Maryland's comeback victory at Marquette eighty nine eighty two, which came after that horrific injury to their star center.
Speaker 2This was a genuinely painful moment for the team and for anyone watching their star center.
Feral Payne, who was playing really well with thirteen points.
He went down with a painful right hip injury after landing awkwardly following a two handed dunk.
He was immediately taken off the court in a stretcher.
Speaker 1Cooch Williams's postgame comments really captured the gravity of the situation.
I founded seriously concerned.
He said, he's our best player.
The angle that I saw did not appear good.
When a coach says that, you know the prognosis is likely severe, and it just immediately shifts the entire outlook for Maryland season.
Speaker 2And when Payne left the court, Maryland was trailing by five points, having already blown an early thirteen point lead.
The immediate psychological impact of seeing your best player carted off is usually debilitating for a team, right, but the supporting cast they engineered this stunning emotional rally.
Speaker 1They outscored Marquette thirty six twenty four after the injury.
I mean this speaks to a different kind of maturity than the nixt show.
This was pure emotional resolve.
So who stepped up for them?
Speaker 2Isaiah Wats was the unexpected hero.
He had only scored nine points total coming into this game, yet he just exploded for eighteen points on the night.
He had a clutch and one finish and then a dagger three pointer late in the game to seal the victory.
Wow Freshman Darius Adams also had his best performance, finishing with sixteen points and three assists.
This was the team choosing to fight for pain rather than collapsing under the weight of his absence.
Speaker 1While that rally is fantastic for morale, you mention there's a huge red flag here right, an underlying structural issue that coach Williams has to address immediately.
Speaker 2That's the hard truth beneath the emotional win.
Coach Williams himself called their rebounding effort beyond bad.
Mariland grabbed just four offensive rebounds while surrendering an astonishing twenty offensive rebounds to.
Speaker 1Marquette twenty and that led directly to twenty five second chance points.
That failure to finish defensive possessions completely eroded their early lead.
Speaker 2It's not just about height, it's a lack of fundamental execution.
It's boxing out.
Twenty offensive rebounds means twenty times.
Marylyn thought the defensive stop was complete, but they failed to make body contact, giving the opponent a whole extra possession.
Speaker 1And with pain their leading rebounder likely out long term, this problem is only going to get worse.
Speaker 2Right Colin Metcalf, who will step into a bigger role.
He struggled in this only getting two rebounds in twelve minutes.
The immediate focus from Maryland, despite the win, has to be fixing that rebounding margin.
Speaker 1Finally, in the PAC twelve a ranked road victory for Arizona, who managed to defeat number fifteen UCLA, but it really exposed the harsh reality of relying on freshmen.
Speaker 2This win was secured entirely by their veteran bench presence.
Senior Anthony Dolorso and Australian transfer, scored twenty points off the bench on highly efficient six for eleven shooting, including four threes.
He was their only consistent score in the first half.
He started five for eight while the rest of the team shot a collective six for twenty two.
Speaker 1So he was the anchor that stopped them from collapsing in that ranked road environment exactly.
Speaker 2But the alarming takeaway though, involves Arizona's much lauded freshman class.
Speaker 1Yeah, the Wildcats four freshmen, aristode Bury's Karchenkov and Pete.
They experienced some severe growing pains.
They combined for only sixteen points on a rough five for eighteen shooting.
Speaker 2The key indicator of the struggle was ball security.
They accounted for twelve of the team's fifteen total turnovers.
Speaker 1Twelve of fifteen turnovers from your freshmen.
That is a crippling lack of execution.
What does that even look like on the court?
Speaker 2It means travel violations, bad passes into the crowd, being stripped while driving, or fouling out of panic.
Braden Burry struggled the most.
He shot one for nine.
It just highlights the dramatic difference between the speed and pressure at the collegiate level compared to high school.
While del Orso's veteran composure salvaged the win, the coaching staff has a massive job ahead of them to get those highly touted freshmen ready to execute without self destructing under pressure.
Speaker 1All right, let's shift our focus to the mid majors and the programs fighting tooth and nail for every single victory.
This is where the real grit and grind of basketball shows up, and it often results in some incredibly dramatic finishes and some really important technical lessons about execution.
Speaker 2Let's start in the Big Ten footprint.
The Minnesota Gophers now three to one.
They struggled to ma but they managed to pull out an overtime win against Green Bay sixty eight sixty three.
This was not a pretty victory, but was a crucial learning experience.
Speaker 1Yeah, the Gophers were cruising right.
They were up sixty to fifty six with just eighteen seconds left in regulation.
They were on the verge of closing it out.
But then they allowed this devastating sequence right.
Speaker 2Green Bay's Preston Runier hits a clutch three, then after a Gopher free throw, Routinger drives for a layup with one second left to force overtime.
That's just a total failure of clock in defensive.
Speaker 3Management, a total collapse.
Speaker 2And coach Nico Medved was very insightful after the game.
He noted that Green Bay's constantly changing defenses caused frustration, which was something his team hadn't prepared for.
He praised them for hanging in, but he specifically called out the mental burden of facing unexpected schemes.
Speaker 3So what pulled them through in the end?
Speaker 2Leadership Kate Tyson dropped twenty seven points, and Jalen Crocker Johnson delivered in overtime, hitting a crucial three and a running one hander to seal the win.
Like Midvid said, this is going to be great for us because teams are going to throw a curveball at you.
Learning how to win ugly is essential.
Speaker 1In Green Bay's coach Doug Gottlieb had a fascinating perspective too.
He basically blamed the late collapse on his wonky lineups and said his players were exhausted in overtime.
Speaker 2Yeah, and that exhaustion leads to those mental errors that cost you games.
Speaker 1Now, for the truly tight finishes, we saw a pair of heartbreakers that were defined by the very last possession.
Utah Valley suffered a one point road loss at Fresno State seventy five seventy four.
Speaker 2UVU started strong.
They were up forty thirty three at halftime, but then five lead changes happened in the final four minutes alone.
It was back and.
Speaker 1Forth, pure agony for UVU.
At the end, they took a late seventy four to seventy two lead with fifty seconds left, only for Fresno State to answer with a three to steal the lead back with twenty two seconds on the clock.
The game ended when Jackson Holcomb's contested shot at the buzzer was blocked, and we.
Speaker 2Saw a similar fate for Rowlin's College in their season opener, losing on a buzzer beater to FBSU.
But this game provides a crucial lesson in basketball geometry effort versus efficiency.
Speaker 3What do you mean by that?
Speaker 2Rawlins dominated the glass.
They had a decisive rebounding edge of forty six thirty at sixteen more opportunities to score.
Speaker 3Sixteen extra chances, and they still lost the game.
Speaker 2Why because they lost the shooting battle catastrophically.
Rollin shot a miserable twenty two point two percent from three compared to fbsu's thirty three point three percent.
This is a fundamental technical failure.
All the effort in securing those extra possessions, the hustle, the physical toll, was wasted because the resulting shot quality was just poor.
Speaker 1Speaking of efficiency losses, ball State fell sixty eight sixty two to Little Rock in a game that provides maybe the best example of what you could call unbalanced effort.
Ball State forced phenomenal twenty three turnovers.
Their defensive pressure was just relentless.
Speaker 2It was an incredible defensive effort, but it was entirely negated by two factors.
First, Little Rock's hyper efficiency.
They shot almost fifty five percent overall and nearly sixty percent from three.
They just made the shots when they got them okay.
In the second factor, rebounding, it goes back to the Maryland issue.
Little Rock dominated the glass out rebounding ball State thirty six to eighteen.
Speaker 3That is a disastrous margin.
Speaker 2It meant that every time ball State successfully pressured Little Rock into a missed shot, they often failed to secure the defensive rebound, which allowed Little Rock to immediately regain the ball.
This led to eighteen second chance points for them.
So while ball State was excellent forcing a mistake, they were terrible at finishing the defensive possession, which effectively erased all their hard work.
Speaker 1Finally, a quick note on the women's basketball scene where Alaska Anchorage is off to a scorching hot start.
Speaker 2Yeah, the Alaska Anchorage Sea Wolves dominated Shamanad to move to four zero.
They showed really strong balance.
Miley Anderson led the scoring with twenty one points, knocking down five threes and Lily Duffin secured a huge double double with fifteen rebounds.
They were playing clean, efficient basketball and controlling the glass.
Speaker 1And conversely, the Wichita State Shockers fell sixty six to fifty seven to undefeated Missouri State.
Speaker 2Yeah, the Shakers struggled with a classic offensive problem twenty three turnovers in the loss.
Treasure Thompson led them with twelve points, but losing twenty three possessions just makes it impossible to beat an efficient, undefeated team.
Speaker 1If we connect this to the bigger picture, the dominant unifying theme across both pro and college basketball this weekend was the critical importance of depth and the ability of these unherlded players to step into significant, high pressure roles when the stars inevitably fall.
Speaker 2We saw an unprecedented vacuum star power.
Halliburton has gone for the year, Nie Smith is out for a month.
Moranton and Nunobisa for setbacks.
LaMelo Ball needs injury management.
I mean, this isn't just about having bodies on the bench.
It's about having ready bodies who can execute under duress.
Speaker 1Especially with the NBA Cup raising the stakes so early in the season.
Speaker 2That's the key metric we have to carry forward.
The Danis Jenkins story, the G League grinder averaging twenty five and eight shooting fifty six percent from three.
That is the prototype of modern NBA depth.
Landry Shamitt dropping thirty six for a short handed nixt time is another perfect example.
Speaker 1Right, these guys are just filling minutes.
They are providing critical production that lets their team survive the most difficult stretch of the season.
It just underscores that team resilience is now defined by the quality of the tenth and eleventh men on the roster.
Speaker 2And we saw that exact same theme mirrored in the NCAA just raffed in a layer of emotional intensity because of the severity of those college injuries.
Speaker 1Absolutely, the NCAA theme was all about surviving adversity, and we saw two very distinct types of responses.
You had Maryland after the horrific feral pain injury.
They showed emotional maturity.
They rallied using veterans like Diggy Koit and Isaiah Watts to secure the win.
They proved they could handle the psychological strain of a traumatic event.
Speaker 2And you contrast that with Arizona.
They got the ranked victory over UCLA, but only because they're highly tithed freshmen kind of melted down.
Speaker 1Yeah, Arizona's reliance on the senior Anthony Delorso for twenty points, it just highlights that learning curve.
Their freshmen accounted for twelve of the team's fifteen turnovers, which is a fundamental collapse and execution under pressure.
Speaker 2The difference between experienced senior stepping up and rookies struggling with basic ball security is just stark.
Maryland found emotional resolve, Arizona found a reliable veteran life raft.
Speaker 1So what does all this mean for you?
The learner of basketball?
How do you apply this knowledge?
Speaker 2It means you have to look past the box score headlines.
If you really want to understand how games are truly won and lost, you need to deep dive into the secondary metrics.
This weekend proved that success is often dictated by role players executing niche skills or the collective failure to secure fundamentals.
Look for Danis Jenkins's hard nosed defense or Anthony Delorso coming off the bench for twenty and on.
Speaker 1The flip side, you analyze those fundamental failures, the rebounding disaster and Maryland or the complete lack of defensive rebounding by ball State that negated twenty three forced turnovers.
These technical flaws and hidden contributors, they tell the real story of a season's direction exactly.
Speaker 2They iductify which teams are structurally resilient versus those that are just relying solely on star power.
Speaker 1What an incredible weekend of hoops.
We saw Stephan Curry cement his place next to Michael Jordan and the longevity record books, Towns stepping up for a banged up Nicks team, and that painful reality check for the Pacers.
In college, we witnessed an emotional rally in Maryland and a high stakes duel between Yukon and BYU that was defined by execution.
Speaker 2The early season intensity, you know, particularly with these high stakes NBA Cup games, it's demanding playoff level intensity from players in November.
It's forcing coaches to push their stars these mindmental numbers just to secure really tournament wins.
Speaker 1And that leads us directly to our final provocative thought for you to chew on.
The NBA Cup has been a major success in terms of driving drama and competition.
It's forcing stars like Curry and Towns to produce these incredible, high usage performances, But considering the injuries to Nise Smith, the ongoing management of Lamello Ball, the setbacks to Jalen Green, what is the ultimate price of this early season high stakes competition.
Are we trading the late season health of our key players for November drama?
And what long term impact will this heightened early season toll have on playoff contention down the stretch.
That question remains the defining tension hanging over the league.