[SPEAKER_01]: Like, match it in background music to overcook him for the night.

[SPEAKER_04]: Hell yeah.

[SPEAKER_00]: Why not to be shady.

[SPEAKER_00]: Do you cook that off?

[SPEAKER_03]: Hold out.

[SPEAKER_03]: Cold out!

[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.

[SPEAKER_03]: We can't take the video, but don't you just flip their off.

[SPEAKER_01]: That's how we greet each other.

[SPEAKER_04]: Hello and welcome to the episode of Finding Mr.

[SPEAKER_04]: Height, the podcast.

[SPEAKER_04]: I'm your host, Allie Jackson, and I am bringing you my positive and practical approach to dating relationships and a lot of other stuff about life based on my own lived experience and things that are that have helped me, that have been important to me and I appreciate all of you being here and listening and fun-loing along big shout out to the patrons.

[SPEAKER_04]: We had our live Patreon for October this week.

[SPEAKER_04]: It was super fun.

[SPEAKER_04]: I want to chat around the comments.

[SPEAKER_04]: I love when y'all are chatting in the comments and we just get to...

[SPEAKER_04]: kind of shoot the shit.

[SPEAKER_04]: That's my favorite kind of light patreon's so much fun.

[SPEAKER_04]: I always prepare stuff to talk about and listen to questions and things just in case people aren't as chatty, but just weak y'all or this month y'all really work.

[SPEAKER_04]: So I appreciate that.

[SPEAKER_04]: And this week on the pod in the topic talk section, we have dating at profile reviews for Katie and Tony are dating galleries participants.

[SPEAKER_04]: Super excited to get into this with them.

[SPEAKER_04]: It was a lot of fun.

[SPEAKER_04]: I love this duo dynamic and the two of them kind of reacting to each other's profiles and like calling each other out in some cases like, oh, do you actually like to cook?

[SPEAKER_04]: Like it was really, really fun.

[SPEAKER_04]: We had a really good time and also had some good insights for them and things for them to think about as they're moving forward with their dating app profiles.

[SPEAKER_04]: We have a little sneak peek of some update that will have on an upcoming pod episode of new people on there on the horizon for each of them.

[SPEAKER_04]: but this episode really focusing in on their profiles and I think there's some insights that hopefully those of you out there on dating apps can glean as well from the conversation and also just like have fun listening to the two of them bantering and I'm along for the ride with them and it's a lot of fun.

[SPEAKER_04]: So I'm excited for you to hear that.

[SPEAKER_04]: On my end, Skyline and I had our housewarming this past weekend.

[SPEAKER_04]: I suppose I we were really sure what to call it because obviously I've lived here for [SPEAKER_04]: a new home, so like our homewarming, I don't know, we counted a housewarming, Sue us.

[SPEAKER_04]: It was awesome, we had so much fun.

[SPEAKER_04]: One of the things that I have never thought to do for a party that I had that I did this time was I made a sunset lake bog.

[SPEAKER_04]: So we have like a mini fridge that has like our it's our beverage fridge that has, you know, it had beers, cellsters, also a lot of non alcoholic options.

[SPEAKER_04]: And there were like little posts that's on top of it that said like, you know, drinks are in here.

[SPEAKER_04]: I also made to batch cocktails.

[SPEAKER_04]: But then, I put three containers of sunset late gummies on the top of the fridge, and I had little posts, it's labeling each of them.

[SPEAKER_04]: So I had their vibe gummies, which have 30 milligrams of CBD and 1 milligrams of delta 90HC.

[SPEAKER_04]: Those are my jam, because I'm not a big THC gal, but I love just that 1 milligrams.

[SPEAKER_04]: Similar to their lifted teas, it's just the perfect combo for me.

[SPEAKER_04]: Then I had a container of their good vibes gummies, which they don't sell anymore, but they had 3 milligrams.

[SPEAKER_04]: So, and I still had some of those, so I had those in the middle.

[SPEAKER_04]: And then I had their Delta 9 gummies, which are 50 milligrams of CBD and five milligrams of THC, which skyline loves and a lot of our guests loved.

[SPEAKER_04]: And I just thought it was such a fun addition to our drinks bar, was to have this like gummies bar.

[SPEAKER_04]: I loved it, and Sunset Lake facilitated it.

[SPEAKER_04]: So thank you, Sunset Lake.

[SPEAKER_04]: If you wanna try Sunset Lake, they have way more than just the THC gummies.

[SPEAKER_04]: I actually really love the sleep products as you all probably know.

[SPEAKER_04]: You can use my code FMH20 at SunsetLakeCBD.com to get 20% off your whole purchase.

[SPEAKER_04]: So we had all that set up for our guests, and we did a pretty good job of organizing the house.

[SPEAKER_04]: I would say it is still not ready for an apartment tour that will come eventually, but we ended up having a little bit of a monocos closet situation if you're a friends fan.

[SPEAKER_04]: We had, so we had the cats with the exception of Emmy, because she wanted to be out and socialize in our office.

[SPEAKER_04]: So I had like a post at note on the office that said, cats inside, please keep closed.

[SPEAKER_04]: And then, all the stuff that we did not have time to organize and put away or donate or sell, we're applicable, went into my studio.

[SPEAKER_04]: And so I put a post at on the studio that said, mess inside, please keep closed, which people originated as they came upstairs.

[SPEAKER_04]: It was perfect.

[SPEAKER_04]: We had perfect weather.

[SPEAKER_04]: We got to be outside the entire time, mix of my friends, skylines friends.

[SPEAKER_04]: Obviously this is the first time we're hosting something together, and I want to host again immediately, and we're going to because we're going to a big Halloween party this weekend.

[SPEAKER_04]: The same when we went to last year together, it's put on by the people who do house of yes.

[SPEAKER_04]: It's like a big [SPEAKER_04]: warehouse party rave, I don't know exactly what to call it, um, in industry city in Brooklyn, by the time you're hearing this, it'll be over, but it's called City of Gods.

[SPEAKER_04]: It's super, super fun.

[SPEAKER_04]: So many different like rooms in DJs, I personally like the rooms that are not DJs, there's like a jazz club, some speakers, ease, but you know, other of our friends in Scotland included, they like the DJs.

[SPEAKER_04]: So we're doing that this weekend, and I suggested that we host people over beforehand because I just really enjoyed hosting.

[SPEAKER_04]: And I forget how much I love hosting until I do it.

[SPEAKER_04]: And then I tell myself, okay, you need to remember that you like this and do it again soon.

[SPEAKER_04]: And then like a year ago, bye, and I won't invite anybody over.

[SPEAKER_04]: So put in my money where my mouth is inviting people to come over within a week and I'm excited to have them over.

[SPEAKER_04]: And some people that weren't able to make our house woman but are also going to the party you're gonna come.

[SPEAKER_04]: So that'll be cool.

[SPEAKER_04]: We'll get to keep socializing her.

[SPEAKER_04]: This party really showed me us that we've done such a good job in socializing Emmy because she was so chill and social with everyone, like, greeted all of our guests while we were upstairs.

[SPEAKER_04]: She stayed in her category and was just like, hello, yes, welcome to our home.

[SPEAKER_04]: And it just was fun.

[SPEAKER_04]: It was really cool to see that because [SPEAKER_04]: there are many things about the way that I raised the boys that I'm proud of, they are very good cats.

[SPEAKER_04]: One thing I wish I had done a better job of was socialization.

[SPEAKER_04]: Part of that was that when they were like kittens, they were sick, like right, they had ringworm off and on for far too long.

[SPEAKER_04]: And then part of it is just I just wasn't thinking about it.

[SPEAKER_04]: And so, and then we went into COVID, but they were like two by then or four by then.

[SPEAKER_04]: So that wasn't really a factor.

[SPEAKER_04]: I just wasn't good at it.

[SPEAKER_04]: I wasn't as good at it.

[SPEAKER_04]: It wasn't as purposeful about it, and I regret that because they are now so, so sweet to us, but quite skittish around other people.

[SPEAKER_04]: And Emmy is not going to be that way, and I'm really excited about it.

[SPEAKER_04]: And, you know, you grow in your parenting style, kidding, not kidding.

[SPEAKER_04]: But I'm just like happy and made me really happy to see that and to know that we're doing a good job and that something that we like.

[SPEAKER_04]: set out to intentionally do is happening.

[SPEAKER_04]: So I know I mentioned before that Skyland's going to be going back into an office more often, and that was a little bit of a surprise.

[SPEAKER_04]: So one of the things that we've been working on is like, what is that going to look like?

[SPEAKER_04]: And so in our weekly stand-up that we have coming up this week, we're going to talk more about like, what do we want it to look like?

[SPEAKER_04]: household sure wise when he's not here like when he is going into an office more because he's going basically every day starting next month.

[SPEAKER_04]: So in addition to like there's going to be benefits on my end in terms of like working by myself here and I think benefits for him like I was talking about with his productivity of being there.

[SPEAKER_04]: But the thing that I didn't really chat about the last time I talked about this with you guys.

[SPEAKER_04]: is the way that that is going to need to shift how we think about labor in the house and like when it happens because when we're both working from home all day there's so many different opportunities to do different things like we can do the dishes whenever we want during the day we can do laundry whenever we want during the day like there's just less constraints on our time and for him that's going to change [SPEAKER_04]: And what I don't want to happen is for me to just naturally take on a lot more of that stuff that happens when we're home and then like end up feeling resentful about it.

[SPEAKER_04]: So, more to come on that, I'll give you an update after our next little stand up, but with that, I am so excited to talk about Katie and Tony's dating app profiles.

[SPEAKER_04]: Just a note as always that our dating diaries participants don't have professional audio setups, and this time Tony is on an iPad because he was having some computer issues.

[SPEAKER_04]: So, worked a lot on it in post production, but the audio is still not as crisp as usual.

[SPEAKER_04]: Many thanks for your patience on that, but it's fantastic conversation.

[SPEAKER_04]: I'm excited for y'all the here at and for the updates to come.

[SPEAKER_04]: And we are back with Katie and Tony.

[SPEAKER_04]: Hello, hello.

[SPEAKER_04]: Welcome back to Finding Mr.

[SPEAKER_04]: Right, the podcast.

[SPEAKER_04]: Hello.

[SPEAKER_04]: The back from Japan.

[SPEAKER_04]: Thank you.

[SPEAKER_04]: It feels both simultaneously a million years ago and also yesterday that I was like halfway around the world, which is crazy.

[SPEAKER_00]: Not as crazy.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, wild.

[SPEAKER_04]: But I am so excited to talk to both of you.

[SPEAKER_04]: So first of all, we are here to do your profile reviews to look at your dating profiles, chat about them, have you give each other feedback, which I'm super excited about?

[SPEAKER_04]: That's our main purpose today, but I also wanna give a little teaser to some upcoming updates.

[SPEAKER_04]: Sounds like both of us have some new people on the horizon.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, clear the old roster, have a new roster.

[SPEAKER_00]: So lots of changes.

[SPEAKER_00]: That's usual.

[SPEAKER_04]: How are we feeling about the the new roster, Katie?

[SPEAKER_00]: I feel excited, like we talked about with the last roster as little dicey, this one's exciting.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's like a, it's feeling compatible.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's feeling good.

[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm happy.

[SPEAKER_04]: We like compatible.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, we love that.

[SPEAKER_04]: And Tony, you similar vibes.

[SPEAKER_04]: You, you have some new people.

[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, yeah.

[SPEAKER_01]: I would say there's probably two.

[SPEAKER_01]: And [SPEAKER_01]: Hot and cold both of them.

[SPEAKER_01]: Is that a hot and cold in a good one?

[SPEAKER_04]: One cold.

[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, interesting.

[SPEAKER_04]: You said a headline before we before we hit record that I was like, oh, I'm like, okay.

[SPEAKER_01]: Well, let me preface by saying, I'm the kind of person who like can see I thought pretty easily.

[SPEAKER_01]: Like if I can't see a future right away, then I'm kind of just not interested.

[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, I met my new husband.

[SPEAKER_01]: Like I'm going to move three hours south to go be with him.

[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, not that.

[SPEAKER_01]: Not that extreme yet tune in next time.

[SPEAKER_01]: The next one.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, we will have a great base section next week.

[SPEAKER_01]: We'll see.

[SPEAKER_01]: No.

[SPEAKER_04]: Is that our pattern?

[SPEAKER_04]: Do we like get obsessed with people and then?

[SPEAKER_04]: A little bit.

[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.

[SPEAKER_04]: All right.

[SPEAKER_04]: Well, we will dive into that a little bit more in next update section for sure.

[SPEAKER_04]: Today we're here to talk about profiles.

[SPEAKER_04]: And so Tony, I thought we could start with yours.

[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.

[SPEAKER_04]: I'm super excited because, you know, one of the reasons that I was so pumped to have y'all doing the dating diaries in general, not only have we not had a duo friend kind of vibe before, but also we previously had had straight women and I was super excited to expand our demographics a little and talk about, you know, what dating is like for other demographics and other people and I'm just I'm really excited that we get to bring this in to the pod so thank you for being here.

[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you.

[SPEAKER_04]: So we have two different profiles that you sent me.

[SPEAKER_04]: We have Tinder and then we have Grindr.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.

[SPEAKER_04]: You included both for a reason and that is what?

[SPEAKER_01]: I think I'd message the message was Tinder's on how I'm looking for blue heart and Grindr is on how I'm looking for eggplant.

[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

[SPEAKER_01]: Those change only hours and times.

[SPEAKER_04]: Which I've talked with before, like I think it is totally valid to be wanting a relationship and trying to date intentionally, but also like, hey, I also want to have some fun.

[SPEAKER_04]: if you were the kind of person who can kind of separate those two things.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.

[SPEAKER_01]: And I would say I, because grinder is obviously like more the hookup kind of site, but I'm so kind of like a prude on there still.

[SPEAKER_01]: So like I'm so kind of like the most mellow profile of the ones that are like, hey, come over like tomorrow or today.

[SPEAKER_00]: Like, um, it's like yours is like very compared to like other ones I've seen.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's very like pain like so.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, agreed, agreed, but I also think we will get into the more specific to your profile.

[SPEAKER_04]: But I am quite literally obsessed with your grinder intro.

[SPEAKER_04]: Like in its entirety and I think that that intro could speak like really really well to an intentional dating situation But we can get into that.

[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, so my first question for you Tony is like overall as you think about Your experience on the apps and the feedback you've gotten on your profiles and like how you feel about them How are you feeling about where you're at profile or profiles are at?

[SPEAKER_01]: I've had these intros are both of them for a while now.

[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like I kind of update them once I hit, I feel like I hit like a wall for some of those.

[SPEAKER_01]: And I feel like I haven't hit a wall with either side quite yet with the current as they are.

[SPEAKER_04]: And how often do you, would you say that you're like refreshing what you're saying in your profile?

[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe like once a month.

[SPEAKER_01]: But if there's someone actually like really like.

[SPEAKER_01]: And I see something on their profile that matches what I would like all so so I'll put it in my really fast to like add it like traps for people.

[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, I said traps.

[SPEAKER_01]: But if you put it on a trap, which is we're like, oh, I like that too.

[SPEAKER_01]: I just not on my profile.

[SPEAKER_04]: I suppose you have to match them before you could message them to say that.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so usually I'll like them and then go change the profile quick.

[SPEAKER_01]: Like I'll heart or swipe whatever way.

[SPEAKER_00]: Swipe and then like you just tell them when you match with them like hey, I know this you like blah, blah, blah.

[SPEAKER_01]: No, because it's not always going to be a match.

[SPEAKER_01]: So I got to like, I got to show them the goodies right away of what I know to get that real didn't because my initial thought was like, why don't you just tell them you also like that thing?

[SPEAKER_04]: But as I'm thinking about it, it's like, well, if they don't match with you, then they would never you would never get that opportunity.

[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.

[SPEAKER_04]: I think I'm okay with that provided, which it sounds like you do, that you actually like the thing.

[SPEAKER_04]: Oh yeah, I don't make things up.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_00]: No, I mean, yes, not checkers.

[SPEAKER_04]: I've certainly got an ideas from other people's profiles of like not necessarily adding something for one specific person, but I'll see something that someone has written on their profile and be like, Oh, fuck, I like that too.

[SPEAKER_04]: I forgot about that like I should add that to my profile.

[SPEAKER_04]: That's great.

[SPEAKER_04]: Good idea.

[SPEAKER_01]: There's only so many characters.

[SPEAKER_01]: So sometimes you've got to like flex things in and out as you need to.

[SPEAKER_04]: So Katie, you have seen Tony's profiles.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yes.

[SPEAKER_04]: What is your overall impression?

[SPEAKER_04]: We'll go through kind of like, you know, his bio or intros and prompts and such, but what do you think?

[SPEAKER_00]: Um, so looking at tender.

[SPEAKER_00]: Very, I've other both very like inviting, which are like, um, the show is personality like what the intros, um, the pictures are cute.

[SPEAKER_00]: Why do you have your [SPEAKER_01]: I set that up thinking I could change it later, but I couldn't go back and change else.

[SPEAKER_01]: I deleted it and then changed it, but I already had paid for platinum.

[SPEAKER_01]: So I was like, why gotta wait this trial out to like, change it, but then people were saying, hey, Jay, gee, and I was like, wait, I should just keep this, because if they're not reading the profile, they're just saying, hi, Jay, gee, they did not read this as Tony here.

[SPEAKER_01]: Cause that's always been either the first second line, was like, my name is right there.

[SPEAKER_01]: So they just like swipe, saw, imagine, just said, hey, that was my initial thought.

[SPEAKER_04]: I, my very first question, not question because I actually assumed that that's what it happened.

[SPEAKER_04]: Because Tinder, like they're so strict.

[SPEAKER_04]: Understandably about your name, like they're not trying to let people change their name a million times.

[SPEAKER_04]: Like, I get it.

[SPEAKER_04]: I though, I don't think it is super clear what you mean by Tony here.

[SPEAKER_04]: You have your initials is like the official name that's there.

[SPEAKER_04]: But then in your bio, the very first line says Tony here.

[SPEAKER_04]: And you're intending for that to tell people, I go by Tony.

[SPEAKER_02]: Right.

[SPEAKER_04]: Right.

[SPEAKER_02]: I can see that.

[SPEAKER_04]: Think that's quite getting across.

[SPEAKER_04]: Like when I obviously know that about you, so when I was reading your profile, I knew what you meant.

[SPEAKER_04]: But without that context, I would be confused and almost like, is this person not real, because their name is wrong?

[SPEAKER_00]: That's what I was concerned.

[SPEAKER_01]: Who did call it?

[SPEAKER_01]: Well, Platinum's over, so maybe I change it.

[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe I don't know.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I don't agree.

[SPEAKER_01]: Now it's time.

[SPEAKER_04]: I would do that.

[SPEAKER_04]: Now that you don't have that constraint anymore, I would just remove this issue, because now you can, although I do get what you're saying about somebody like not reading the profile, but I don't actually think you're being clear enough.

[SPEAKER_04]: So if you do decide to keep it, I would say like, I go by Tony instead of Tony here.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_01]: And that's 18 more characters that freeze up for something else.

[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

[SPEAKER_00]: Boom!

[SPEAKER_01]: There you go!

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, cause I always think as so undercats are initials or something like they're cheating on their partner.

[SPEAKER_00]: They're like, they're kind of like this, like, sneaky, and I don't know.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I thought that could change it.

[SPEAKER_01]: I thought I could change it.

[SPEAKER_00]: No, you're fine.

[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just saying like, my impression when I see...

Yeah.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_04]: So we're going to make this name change.

[SPEAKER_04]: Let's talk about your picture.

[SPEAKER_04]: So obviously, most of the people listening right now are listening.

[SPEAKER_04]: Everybody is listening.

[SPEAKER_04]: And so they can't see them.

[SPEAKER_04]: So the first thing that I'll do is I'll just go through and kind of describe each picture that we have in Tinder.

[SPEAKER_04]: And we're like, focus on Tinder for the purposes of this.

[SPEAKER_04]: And then we can kind of go from [SPEAKER_04]: You're in a, it seems like you're in a bar probably watching football.

[SPEAKER_04]: So it's a little bit dark.

[SPEAKER_04]: The lighting that's on your face is like TV lighting, if you will, like coming off of TV's that are on.

[SPEAKER_04]: You're holding a shelter.

[SPEAKER_04]: You're kind of like smirking at the camera.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.

[SPEAKER_04]: That's your first photo.

[SPEAKER_04]: Next photo is you with a woman.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.

[SPEAKER_04]: You're in front of a pool table, likely also at a bar you're holding drinks.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.

[SPEAKER_01]: Full body.

[SPEAKER_04]: Full body, amazing.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.

[SPEAKER_04]: Next one is you on the beach, some glasses, hair up in a very nice bun.

[SPEAKER_04]: I like the bun.

[SPEAKER_04]: Thank you.

[SPEAKER_04]: Also mostly full body.

[SPEAKER_04]: So we're getting some body shots here.

[SPEAKER_04]: Next one is spoiler alert.

[SPEAKER_04]: My favorite photo of you.

[SPEAKER_04]: You are at a Nebraska football game.

[SPEAKER_04]: You are like fully smiling.

[SPEAKER_04]: Your face is just so full of joy.

[SPEAKER_04]: I'm giving myself a way for which one I think should be your friend's picture.

[SPEAKER_01]: That is your friend's friend's picture at Arrowhead in KC, though.

[SPEAKER_01]: That's fun.

[SPEAKER_01]: Like a double for P.D.

[SPEAKER_01]: Biblical who do sports.

[SPEAKER_01]: That was my.

[SPEAKER_01]: I love that.

[SPEAKER_01]: My real woman.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_01]: And you just look so damn cute.

[SPEAKER_04]: Next photo is a selfie where your face is like, I would say, through a quarter out of frame, you're like kind of smirking at the camera.

[SPEAKER_04]: It's like taken from above, at least in the view that you get in the photo that you can see.

[SPEAKER_04]: The actual photo might not be cut off, but it is when you look at it on your profile.

[SPEAKER_02]: Mm-hmm.

[SPEAKER_01]: That's because the gaze are, they wanna see everything, usually.

[SPEAKER_01]: So that's a little body, I'm not like terribly looking all the way down, like you're doing that with other photos though, right?

[SPEAKER_04]: Like that's, yeah, that's true.

[SPEAKER_04]: Most of these photos are full body.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, that's true.

[SPEAKER_04]: I don't think you need this one.

[SPEAKER_04]: I would get it if you all your photos were of your face and then you were like, hey, here's a quick photo of my body, but I think you're doing that a lot of these.

[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, the one of you on the beach, the one of you in the overalls in the bar are like, I'm sure you're full body.

[SPEAKER_04]: That's true.

[SPEAKER_04]: Um, okay.

[SPEAKER_04]: And then after that, you have another full bot.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, you do not need that one.

[SPEAKER_04]: This one is another full body.

[SPEAKER_04]: You are smiling.

[SPEAKER_04]: Go nice, a little hand in pocket.

[SPEAKER_04]: You're by yourself.

[SPEAKER_04]: And then we have our fun picture.

[SPEAKER_04]: I'm assuming this is Halloween.

[SPEAKER_04]: You're dressed as Pikachu.

[SPEAKER_01]: With team right.

[SPEAKER_04]: Thank you.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yes, with with other people also.

[SPEAKER_04]: So this is like an I have friends moment.

[SPEAKER_04]: Which some people say not to include group pictures.

[SPEAKER_04]: I like group pictures if they tell a story about you, which like this one certainly does.

[SPEAKER_04]: You're clearly having a great time.

[SPEAKER_04]: And then after that, we have a car selfie, which is not my favorite to be honest in general as a category.

[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.

[SPEAKER_04]: But I'm not like 100% opposed, but car selfie.

[SPEAKER_04]: And then the last one is, this is funny.

[SPEAKER_04]: It's you and a woman, and it's the caption to my least favorite sister.

[SPEAKER_04]: Do you only have one sister?

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yep, that was us in Vegas, but I think that's very funny.

[SPEAKER_04]: And it speaks to your humor.

[SPEAKER_04]: I'm curious.

[SPEAKER_04]: So let's start with that picture.

[SPEAKER_04]: Do you get feedback on that picture?

[SPEAKER_04]: To people message you about that?

[SPEAKER_01]: Not really.

[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, it is the last photo.

[SPEAKER_04]: So people maybe have stop swiping by then.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, maybe.

[SPEAKER_04]: Everybody's like, because Tinder for those people who aren't necessarily familiar with Tinder, it works a little bit differently than Bumble and Hinge, or like Bumble and Hinge, you're like, [SPEAKER_04]: scrolling through and you're seeing pictures scattered throughout someone's profile, in Tinder, you have to like swipe through all the photos side to side and then you can go up and down to see the bio.

[SPEAKER_04]: So like knowing this is your last photo, I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of people are not making it there.

[SPEAKER_01]: That's fair.

[SPEAKER_04]: Which I don't plan, I mean, there's a lot of pictures like I would go through all of them, but not everybody worked.

[SPEAKER_04]: So, what do you think Katie about, these photos in general slash which one should be his first one or none of these and he needs a new first one?

[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, you and I are pretty much on the same page with the first picture is a little dark.

[SPEAKER_00]: The picture and pink with like part of his Tony space out of it.

[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like can go.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I don't think we need that one.

[SPEAKER_00]: And then do you like selfie can probably go?

[SPEAKER_04]: The car selfie can probably go.

[SPEAKER_04]: And I really think that Nebraska football one with you smiling so cute should be your first one.

[SPEAKER_01]: I have more of those.

[SPEAKER_01]: I think that was when I got right away because the service is bad.

[SPEAKER_01]: So that's one of that I used.

[SPEAKER_04]: And or like the reason and like part of this is like to help you go forward and make decisions about your profiles.

[SPEAKER_04]: Like the reason that I like that photo is because of what your face is doing.

[SPEAKER_04]: So like it's not, like I, I also like for context, the football game because you're into that.

[SPEAKER_04]: And like that's great, you're not into that.

[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not, I don't love football.

[SPEAKER_01]: Like I'm not gonna seek it out.

[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, interesting.

[SPEAKER_01]: But I think like living in Nebraska, specifically Lincoln in Nebraska.

[SPEAKER_01]: Like the Huskers just will always have like a little tag on me.

[SPEAKER_01]: So Huskers at Arrowhead.

[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, heck yeah, I'm gonna go to that game.

[SPEAKER_01]: And that's kind of what happened there.

[SPEAKER_00]: We're not like I'm says like I'm not seeking out the history game.

[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not seeking out.

[SPEAKER_01]: I can't see the game.

[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just like if it's on and I'm there and I'll grab a drink and watch.

[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, interesting.

[SPEAKER_04]: I might have changed my mind then.

[SPEAKER_04]: So I love love love your face in that photo and I do think you should use it as your first one if there isn't like another option.

[SPEAKER_04]: That being said, [SPEAKER_04]: Using it as your first photo does indicate like this is something I like doing this is something that's like a part of my life and so I'm curious Do you think that there might be people that you would be trying to match with that would see that and be like a football guy no thanks But you're not a football guy potentially and like I would go.

[SPEAKER_01]: So that's yeah, that's like a middle [SPEAKER_04]: Right.

[SPEAKER_01]: So if I see someone that likes football, we never go change the profile for that, specifically.

[SPEAKER_01]: I'll leave the photo football, but I'm not going to go put a football emoji in my.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, yeah.

[SPEAKER_01]: Description.

[SPEAKER_04]: So maybe something to think about as you take more pictures, as you maybe you're looking at other pictures that you have of yourself sounds like you have like other options you could use to just think about like that kind of vibe.

[SPEAKER_04]: With that inviting smile that you have that I think really shows off your personality and like the warmth that you have.

[SPEAKER_04]: is what's really great.

[SPEAKER_04]: I'm gravitating towards in that picture.

[SPEAKER_01]: I understand.

[SPEAKER_00]: I think the plan picture from your grinder would be going your tender as well.

[SPEAKER_01]: The I really wanted one.

[SPEAKER_00]: We'll get to that.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.

[SPEAKER_04]: So going through.

[SPEAKER_04]: Well, let's actually like kind of talk about the juxtaposition between the two for a file.

[SPEAKER_04]: Because I totally agree.

[SPEAKER_04]: There's so Katie described the photo you're talking about for the listeners.

[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, well, I took it, so maybe I'm a little bit different.

[SPEAKER_00]: We were at the club, Tony got on the floor.

[SPEAKER_00]: So Abby meet, what's your nappy, Lee Miller?

[SPEAKER_00]: She has a picture where she's like biting grass.

[SPEAKER_00]: So Tony's biting a plant in the club.

[SPEAKER_00]: He looks seductive, he looks cute.

[SPEAKER_00]: It doesn't have fun, Peter.

[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like on the floor also.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, on the floor.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yep.

[SPEAKER_04]: It is so evident how much fun you're having in this photo.

[SPEAKER_04]: And like, I think that it really speaks to your personality of like that, that is the energy that you're bringing.

[SPEAKER_04]: Like, I like it actually for your tender profile also to bring in maybe replacing one of the ones we talked about.

[SPEAKER_01]: And my body looks good too in it.

[SPEAKER_04]: There you go.

[SPEAKER_04]: I really like that photo.

[SPEAKER_04]: So that's the only change I would make for your grinder.

[SPEAKER_04]: Like for them.

[SPEAKER_04]: And I look at your photos and your grinder.

[SPEAKER_04]: I have the same feedback of the ones that I like don't love as much via the dark lighting and that kind of thing.

[SPEAKER_04]: But I would move that one, replace the ones we talked about with that one on your tender profile.

[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.

[SPEAKER_04]: So your bio on your tender profile.

[SPEAKER_01]: Do you want to read it to us?

[SPEAKER_01]: Intro is live, laugh, let's approach.

[SPEAKER_01]: I just change this.

[SPEAKER_01]: So I put, I go by Tony.

[SPEAKER_04]: Amazing.

[SPEAKER_01]: Catad to the world's assiest for Volto, Smelone.

[SPEAKER_01]: Mario Party, Fortnite, Casino, board games.

[SPEAKER_01]: I'm a sore winner in quotes.

[SPEAKER_01]: Let's make blue apron meals together.

[SPEAKER_01]: Karyaki Car Concerts, channeling my Queen Selena and Beyonce.

[SPEAKER_01]: Looking for someone who wants to bring me snacks and ask them what the house is building in the Sims.

[SPEAKER_01]: And I say, I don't care about your height or abs, I care about how you'll kiss me good night.

[SPEAKER_01]: And then I say, like, I'll be your calming your chaos.

[SPEAKER_01]: And then my red flag is I still like J-Lo.

[SPEAKER_04]: So what do you think about your bio?

[SPEAKER_04]: And like the feedback that you've gotten or things that people tend to comment about?

[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, people comment more on the J-Lo thing the most.

[SPEAKER_04]: I was gonna ask that.

[SPEAKER_04]: I like that.

[SPEAKER_04]: I think it's fun and random, but like something that would be a conversation starter.

[SPEAKER_01]: I'm a controversial right now, like she's gonna cancel, but I'm like, I don't, I'm not sure I could ever cancel her, I had.

[SPEAKER_04]: So we have a conversation starter green.

[SPEAKER_01]: These are like the cookie and gets people to give like to cook so those are probably the two biggest ones that I get asked about the most.

[SPEAKER_04]: I think that makes sense because both of those are like very easy things to start conversations about which I think is so so important in a profile.

[SPEAKER_04]: Right.

[SPEAKER_04]: Katie, what do you think reading this and knowing him?

[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's pretty accurate.

[SPEAKER_00]: I would say like if the blue apron thing is like getting the tension, I would ask like a follow up question like what's your favorite, like something food-wise, just like a second like engagement.

[SPEAKER_04]: Sure.

[SPEAKER_00]: What size is the jail of the thing?

[SPEAKER_04]: You could do that in prompts.

[SPEAKER_00]: That's true.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I would do that in prompts because you talked about cooking great, but like you could bring that back to your prompts.

[SPEAKER_00]: I like the Sims part a lot.

[SPEAKER_04]: I really like that.

[SPEAKER_04]: I think I love how many specifics there are in here.

[SPEAKER_04]: I'm curious if we, I think it might be a little long.

[SPEAKER_04]: Oh.

[SPEAKER_04]: Overall, I really like how much you filled out in your profile because like, in Tinder, after you talk about your bio, after you do your prompts, there's so many other options now to add different interests, like, what do you like to do on the weekend?

[SPEAKER_04]: What are your Saturday nights look like?

[SPEAKER_04]: I'm the kind of person who, like, all of those things.

[SPEAKER_04]: And you feel that a lot of them, which I think is really helpful information, but I'm curious for you to ask you when your reviewing men's profiles, is that like, what's the average of like, how long people's profiles are typically speaking?

[SPEAKER_01]: I like a long profile.

[SPEAKER_01]: So if it's short or blank, I'm like kind of, [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, no way, I'm short and blank, right?

[SPEAKER_01]: Even if they're like barrier-tracked, I'm like, mmm, no, it's just like, yeah.

[SPEAKER_01]: If you haven't talked about yourself for like three short, tiny paragraphs, like, it's an indication that you probably can't keep a conversation, but I guess I'd throw it out there because I'm like, these are all things that are like, I would think I could snatch on very easily.

[SPEAKER_01]: Anything on there, I can grab onto it and talk about it.

[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm giving like a broad, [SPEAKER_01]: What's the, what's the term you throw it out and see what sticks.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, like throwing to be adding out.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, exactly.

[SPEAKER_01]: And just see what sticks and like that's the what's where you go from here.

[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like you could take out the comp part, the comp and your chaos part.

[SPEAKER_04]: True.

[SPEAKER_04]: I was actually wondering about that because I think I know what you're getting at, but I don't think that it's specific enough that like it really is doing much for you.

[SPEAKER_04]: My question though about the length was actually more about all of the stuff you've selected after your bio.

[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, like all the prompts and so on.

[SPEAKER_04]: Right, not just the prompts, but like all of the things about like what you like to do on Saturdays, like you're like, all the lifestyle things of, you know, everything, like weekends are for Saturday night, look like a typical Sunday looks like me and my phone replies quickly like all of those.

[SPEAKER_04]: I like how much effort you've put into filling all of them out, but I think when you have so many inputs, each one starts to have less meaning.

[SPEAKER_01]: okay.

[SPEAKER_04]: Do you know what I mean?

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_04]: So like I would go through this and like really think about which of these things that I've selected like which of these interests which of these you know, I prefer this versus that like which of these are really important to me and do I want people to know?

[SPEAKER_01]: I'm saying like I have cap on their twice essentially because I say cap.

[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

[SPEAKER_01]: No, I got.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I got you.

[SPEAKER_01]: So like, yeah, it's for sure.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, so like as you go through, because as I'm looking here, I'm thinking about how many scrolls it's going to take somebody to get through all your whole profile.

[SPEAKER_04]: And we've got starting with the bio one, two, three, four, five, six.

[SPEAKER_04]: So it's taking somebody like, and we're not even talking about pictures, right?

[SPEAKER_04]: Because Tinder's pictures are at the top.

[SPEAKER_04]: So it's taking somebody's six full scrolls to get all the way through.

[SPEAKER_04]: And that feels like a little high.

[SPEAKER_01]: I get you dietary preference.

[SPEAKER_01]: Why does that matter?

[SPEAKER_01]: Precisely.

[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_01]: So like, and I, again, I love the effort.

[SPEAKER_01]: I get it.

[SPEAKER_04]: But I grew with you.

[SPEAKER_04]: I also don't want a shortened blank profile.

[SPEAKER_04]: So I don't want you to have that either.

[SPEAKER_04]: And I want you to have a high bar for people [SPEAKER_04]: because I think that's important.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I feel like the intro can just be like a little zinger.

[SPEAKER_00]: That's why, like, I think it's really nice, but like, you can up, like, extrapolate in the prompts.

[SPEAKER_00]: And then the, I feel like the intro thing you can just be like, short and sweet and kind of like, get certain interest.

[SPEAKER_01]: Like half of that.

[SPEAKER_04]: So you also included a snippet from a Facebook dating, which I know you don't use very much, but I want you to read this intro that you wrote here for the crap, for the group.

[SPEAKER_01]: Sure.

[SPEAKER_01]: So that one is similar.

[SPEAKER_01]: I'm a Margarita loving cat died.

[SPEAKER_01]: You didn't know you needed that at singing, decent, dancing and always down for snacks.

[SPEAKER_01]: If we're not blasting Beyonce or Selena, like we're in the front row, are we even trying?

[SPEAKER_01]: Building a business, yeah, but I'll always pause for part of kisses and lazy afternoon not singled up with each other.

[SPEAKER_01]: Embitious affection and a little unhinged in the best way.

[SPEAKER_01]: Friendship, first, then inappropriate, but snacks, [SPEAKER_01]: up down, arrow down, loy all the loud look humanists.

[SPEAKER_04]: Hi, I frankly, I'm obsessed with this intro.

[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.

[SPEAKER_04]: I think it is technically giving the same information as the one you read from Tinder and your grinder one is similar, but like, it's doing it in a voice.

[SPEAKER_04]: If that makes sense.

[SPEAKER_04]: Like I check her.

[SPEAKER_04]: Uh-huh.

[SPEAKER_04]: Like I hear your voice.

[SPEAKER_04]: Katie, what's your reaction to that versus the one from Tinder?

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I feel like the one from Facebook just like flows better.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, like Tony said, less of a checklist and it's more of like everything kind of mesh together and it just flows well.

[SPEAKER_04]: Mm-hmm.

[SPEAKER_04]: I love it.

[SPEAKER_04]: Like a no-notes love it.

[SPEAKER_04]: So, and I think you could, there's a couple things you mentioned in your Tinder profile that you didn't mention there, like, cooking, for example.

[SPEAKER_04]: So, like, I think there's ways that you could bring some more things into this, but generally, like, the vibe of how you're talking, as if you're just chatting, I really love.

[SPEAKER_01]: Right, because I have, like, four games, period.

[SPEAKER_01]: cookie period, fortnight period.

[SPEAKER_01]: I got you.

[SPEAKER_04]: And that probably appeals to a certain kind of person, but from what you're saying, like you are looking for somebody who like wants to read something in your voice.

[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

[SPEAKER_04]: And so I think you, you could lean into that, you know, and you're like, that's written really well.

[SPEAKER_04]: So I would say use it.

[SPEAKER_00]: I have so much homework already.

[SPEAKER_00]: cater it to like the kind of guy that you want kind of sort of flutter profile so like do you want a guy that like doesn't wrong gaming and stuff like that but like a guy that like plays games and board games and video games and I got you yeah.

[SPEAKER_04]: And I think that you can have things in there that aren't going to appeal to everyone and you should, right?

[SPEAKER_04]: But I think it's like the combination of all of those things and the way that it's written in a way that's going to appeal to the person that you're looking for, which I think that paragraph is.

[SPEAKER_04]: So I think you've got all the right bones, if you will.

[SPEAKER_04]: You just got to put them together.

[UNKNOWN]: OK.

[SPEAKER_01]: good foundation.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, absolutely a good foundation.

[SPEAKER_04]: Like you're good at writing and you're good at talking about yourself.

[SPEAKER_04]: So I think you just like little tweaks, you know?

[SPEAKER_04]: So we talked about your photos.

[SPEAKER_04]: We talked about your bio.

[SPEAKER_04]: You also have prompts.

[SPEAKER_04]: I'm curious for your prompts.

[SPEAKER_04]: What is your goal of your prompts?

[SPEAKER_04]: I guys are thinking about writing prompts to your profile.

[SPEAKER_04]: Like what's your goal?

[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

[SPEAKER_01]: Just to throw some more information out there.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_01]: overload them with things that they might need to know, but like even I'm living in one now, it's like I reference Lena again in my prompt, which I referenced already up above.

[SPEAKER_04]: What I was thinking as I'm reading your prompt, so the the first one I'm reading, perks of dating me, you get love loyalty and lasagna plus a walking HR violation who smells amazing.

[SPEAKER_04]: I think that is really well written and I like it as a sentence.

[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know, though, what if I'm reading your profile, I would say to you about it.

[SPEAKER_04]: Do you know what I mean?

[SPEAKER_04]: Mm-hmm.

[SPEAKER_04]: In your bio, we talked about all of those conversation starters, all of those things that people are messaging you about that are sparking an idea for them, and I'm not getting that as much from your prompts, which is sort of the idea of the prompts, is to prompt somebody to say something.

[SPEAKER_01]: I got you.

[SPEAKER_04]: So I think that's something for you to think about is like, like Katie made the suggestion about adding in more specifics about what you like to cook.

[SPEAKER_04]: That's what you could do in your problems.

[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

[SPEAKER_04]: And I think it's okay if there's a little bit of rep- Like matching the terms you think of.

[SPEAKER_01]: Like matching the background music tool we're cooking for the night.

[SPEAKER_04]: Hell yeah.

[SPEAKER_00]: Why not to be shady?

[SPEAKER_00]: Do you cook that off?

[UNKNOWN]: Ha ha ha ha.

[SPEAKER_03]: Call down.

[SPEAKER_03]: Call down.

[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, they can't, they can't see the video, but don't, don't, you just flipped her off.

[SPEAKER_01]: But that's how we greet each other.

[SPEAKER_01]: I know cooking is something that I would love to do if I had more time.

[SPEAKER_01]: And I think being single, like, you had to be like kind of insrobable mode, not like in a bad way, but like, okay, do I clean?

[SPEAKER_01]: Do I cook?

[SPEAKER_01]: Do I have to laundry?

[SPEAKER_01]: I don't have like someone to share with us.

[SPEAKER_01]: What's the possibility it's worth?

[SPEAKER_04]: It's aspirational a little bit, but I think that's okay in this context.

[SPEAKER_04]: Like I totally resonate with not feeling as motivated to do certain things by myself versus with someone else and cooking is absolutely one of those.

[SPEAKER_04]: Like I am super excited to like meal plan with Skyline and be like, okay, like we're gonna cook dinner.

[SPEAKER_04]: That's my boyfriend nickname, FYI attorney.

[SPEAKER_04]: But like, [SPEAKER_04]: I'm super excited to like meal playing with him, but like okay, we're going to cook together on Thursday, but like he's not home tonight and at the beginning of this recording you saw him move the door to hash bag out of the way like I like I'm not I'm not nearly as motivated to do it by myself, so I totally understand that so I think like yeah and goal would be probably what I described.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, which I think that's perfect.

[SPEAKER_04]: I don't think it has to be, this is already all the things I do as long as it's not so far out of the realm of possibility that you're painting a picture that actually wouldn't happen, which I don't think that's what you're doing.

[SPEAKER_01]: No, I can throw down.

[SPEAKER_01]: So like, if someone's a, hey, I want to cook this.

[SPEAKER_01]: I can go buy the ingredients and go cook it for them.

[SPEAKER_01]: Like, that's not like, I can show up and show out if I need to for cooking.

[SPEAKER_04]: I think that is key though Tony like you're not a person who doesn't know how to boil water saying like let's cook together oh no yeah I seasoned my chicken with more than one rice yes you have you have spices sounds like yeah yeah so I think there's a very big difference there like they would be different if you're this person who like can't boil an egg and you're like want it you know but oh I would love to cook together but no [SPEAKER_04]: right, which is fine, but also fair call out from Katie.

[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, so I think you have some homework, but I think the bones are there.

[SPEAKER_04]: Like we have you have some amazing elements of your profile, and I think some like really good pictures.

[SPEAKER_04]: You have a lot of pictures.

[SPEAKER_04]: Also, you don't need technically that many, so it's not like you absolutely have to replace the ones that you decided to leave.

[SPEAKER_04]: I think we're in a great spot, how are you feeling about your profile and changes you want to make and all that stuff?

[SPEAKER_01]: No, I think there's a lot of easy changes that I can make that shortens the profile that I will not take anything out of it.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_01]: So I think that's a good call out.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, absolutely.

[SPEAKER_04]: Well, Miss Katie, time to turn to you.

[SPEAKER_00]: I'm ready.

[SPEAKER_04]: So if you're a profile, you've selected your hinge profile.

[SPEAKER_04]: Is that the main one that you use or one of the one to use?

[SPEAKER_00]: That's the only one I use.

[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, rolling on hinge.

[SPEAKER_04]: Overall, how are you feeling about your profile responses to it?

[SPEAKER_04]: Success, all that just.

[SPEAKER_00]: I feel good, like I, they're, well, we'll go to the pictures, I'm sure, but they're renaissance, festival picture, and like the day in the video picture, get so many likes, like, it's honestly like a pretty, I'm proud of this profile.

[SPEAKER_04]: I really like it.

[SPEAKER_04]: So I think that, I think that Pride is valid.

[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you.

[SPEAKER_04]: Tony, what do you think?

[SPEAKER_04]: Having looked at movies profile before this?

[SPEAKER_01]: I do like it.

[SPEAKER_01]: And maybe I've just like, always so we heard that I have a novel for mine.

[SPEAKER_01]: And part of me's like, I wanna see, I wanna hear more.

[SPEAKER_01]: And maybe that's like the perfect, like, hey, there's enough there that I like, but I needed to dig into this a little bit more.

[SPEAKER_01]: That's my first and seen her profile.

[SPEAKER_04]: I think though, do you have your views, Tinge, Tony?

[SPEAKER_01]: No, no.

[SPEAKER_04]: The reason I was asking is because one of the things I didn't like as much about hinge is exactly what you're saying that there isn't actually a lot more options for her to have more on her profile unless her prompts were gonna be super long which just like isn't the vibe on hinge.

[SPEAKER_04]: specifically.

[SPEAKER_04]: So like, where is on Tinder and, you know, grinder and like other ones, you've got a bio, you've got prompts, you've got like, hinge, you've just got your prompts.

[SPEAKER_04]: Like, there actually is no opportunity for a bio, which I personally don't like, but some people like it more.

[SPEAKER_00]: I like it more.

[SPEAKER_01]: Which, that's, that's not bad, because I think it does describe you.

[SPEAKER_01]: But through some of it doesn't know you, they'd be like, what else is what else is lurking down there?

[SPEAKER_01]: Is what my first instinct?

[SPEAKER_00]: It is kind of difficult because yet they're like, I try to hone in on stuff I really like, on a weekly basis like to do.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I don't think I tap what volleyball though.

[SPEAKER_04]: I was actually going to ask you about that.

[SPEAKER_04]: So let's go through.

[SPEAKER_04]: So we'll describe your pictures first.

[SPEAKER_04]: So your first picture is head and shoulders, big smile.

[SPEAKER_04]: We already know I'm going to love this as a first photo.

[SPEAKER_04]: Smiling with teeth, great lighting, pretty much just your face.

[SPEAKER_04]: I say boobs up to a lot of my clients because just to understand what I'm talking about.

[SPEAKER_04]: Because when I say headshot, people think I mean professional headshot.

[SPEAKER_04]: And I do not mean that.

[SPEAKER_04]: I just mean like the cut off of where a headshot would cut you off Which is what you're doing your second photo is the aforementioned Renaissance fair So you're wearing a Renaissance fair type outfit and sipping on a little paper cup with like a castedly thing in the background Yes, and it looks good on her too, and that does look very good.

[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you [SPEAKER_00]: describe your next photo to me because I it's a lot of fun but I don't necessarily know what's happening okay one of the pumpkin I was trying to get like a full body shot that like with my friends that was kind of fun um yeah I was going back and forth about that once I'm not sure [SPEAKER_00]: What's happening?

[SPEAKER_04]: You're holding, so okay, great.

[SPEAKER_04]: So we're on the same page.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, so you're holding a very large pumpkin.

[SPEAKER_04]: And you have two friends on either side of you who are sort of holding you holding this pumpkin.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yes.

[SPEAKER_04]: It's fun.

[SPEAKER_04]: And it is full body, you're right.

[SPEAKER_04]: And it is like one of the only photos that you have that even though the Renaissance photo, your whole body is in it, it isn't quite full body, in that sense.

[SPEAKER_04]: But I'm a little, I'm a little iffy on the inclusion of this photo, only because I was like, hey, but maybe that's good.

[SPEAKER_04]: Maybe that invites questions.

[SPEAKER_00]: It doesn't.

[SPEAKER_00]: That one has been gotten a lot of traction.

[SPEAKER_00]: So I feel like I do need something else that's full body, kind of fun.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_00]: Like something like more activity basis, what I was thinking like, if I was love an activity, or a lot of people.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_04]: So one of my main callouts before we get to the other pieces of your pictures is that you don't have any videos.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yes.

[SPEAKER_04]: And it's been a long time since Hinge has released data on this.

[SPEAKER_04]: I wish they would do it consistently.

[SPEAKER_04]: But when they did.

[SPEAKER_04]: Stud their studies showed that videos got 10 times as many engagements as photos.

[SPEAKER_04]: And they don't have to be like, people do talking to the camera, like, no, they do not have to be that mine was a volleyball video and it was very short.

[SPEAKER_04]: It was just like on a loop and it didn't have any sound, but it was movement and that attracts attention.

[SPEAKER_04]: So I would replace this one and I would do it with a video if you can.

[SPEAKER_04]: And if it's volleyball, that will inherently be a full body.

[SPEAKER_00]: Also a lot of Tony Phil one your next photo.

[SPEAKER_04]: You're not in it's your two cats.

[SPEAKER_04]: I'm assuming those are both your cats.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, I just had to throw it out like because I don't not everyone's a cat person.

[SPEAKER_00]: So I feel like I need to be clear one.

[SPEAKER_00]: I just like, I love them.

[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm like, here they are, but also it's like some people are just like very anti cat.

[SPEAKER_04]: I totally get that as obviously a cat owner.

[SPEAKER_04]: I personally don't recommend including the menu profile.

[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.

[SPEAKER_04]: You could say you have them, like you could select have cats, like you're not hiding them, obviously.

[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know in a limited amount of space that we want to take up space with cats because I agree with you.

[SPEAKER_04]: There are some people that like absolutely fucking hate cats.

[SPEAKER_04]: I actually have found that those people tend to say so on their profile and then you can weed them out.

[SPEAKER_04]: True, most straight men that I've encountered and I love the ones that are already catmen, but most of them would not say they are cat guys and yet every single guy I've ever dated has become a cat guy.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, they're all in the pile.

[SPEAKER_00]: I'll still let out there.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yes, very much so, but like you're not going to change that in your profile, a stranger viewing your profile is not going to have that realization.

[SPEAKER_04]: Tony, what do you think about the cat photo?

[SPEAKER_01]: I agree with that, because I think is there a limit on the pictures on this specific?

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[SPEAKER_01]: It's just so waste of it could show you some another light.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I totally agree.

[SPEAKER_04]: You're not even in the picture also.

[SPEAKER_04]: So like I would probably feel a little bit better about it if you were in the picture, but generally speaking, I'm a no-one cat photos.

[SPEAKER_04]: And I say that is a very obvious cat lover.

[SPEAKER_00]: That's fair.

[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, I have literally three running around me right now.

[SPEAKER_04]: So like, I'm all about them.

[SPEAKER_00]: Are they getting there?

[SPEAKER_00]: No, it's sometimes like, like I said with the cat thing.

[SPEAKER_00]: And then I used to with my height.

[SPEAKER_00]: Like, feel like I had to make it a prompt.

[SPEAKER_00]: Because I feel like you'll meet up with some people and they're like, they act like they had no idea.

[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, what are you seeing?

[SPEAKER_00]: So I feel like if you'll get to be clear about, but maybe that's being paranoid or, [SPEAKER_01]: I think a volleyball vote video would be like it would get you playing volleyball, it would show your height and like ensure that you like doing that obviously as your activity.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I totally start coming and get you.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, be that video aquifer Tony.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I get you on the high thing because I, the same thing would happen to me where I would like, it's written on my profile like it's right there and I would show up to date and they'd be like, oh my god, you're so tall and then they would think that I had lied about my height I'm like, no baby, you're just too into short and then you think you are.

[SPEAKER_00]: Always.

[SPEAKER_01]: like we can get a tape measure right now I'm five eleven and a half but like okay right the gaze do that too really inflate their height and I am straight up I'm like hey I'm five seven not lying about that so when I get people that are like five ten and looking right in the eyes I'm like you are not five ten there's no way [SPEAKER_04]: On this point now, we're just dealing with a lying issue.

[SPEAKER_04]: It's like, I'm not even mad that you're five seven.

[SPEAKER_04]: I'm pissed that you're lying to me.

[SPEAKER_01]: Right, exactly.

[SPEAKER_04]: So, okay, cat photo, I'm personally a know, but that's just me.

[SPEAKER_04]: And then you have the aforementioned Dany Divido photo.

[SPEAKER_04]: So, I'm not gonna lie to you.

[SPEAKER_04]: I didn't really understand this photo either.

[SPEAKER_04]: Can you explain to the listeners what's happening in this photo?

[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so it's an AI-generated photo of people were doing, I think it was on Facebook mainly.

[SPEAKER_00]: It was like an AI-generated picture of like ghost face behind you on a bed.

[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

[SPEAKER_00]: 80s, 90s theme or whatever.

[SPEAKER_00]: So I did a different to do day and a video because I might have been kind of funny to have day and a video staying behind you.

[SPEAKER_00]: I just feel like it's like a fun for like right now, but during until Halloween's over, it's how I'm kind of viewing it.

[SPEAKER_04]: And people are engaging with it, like they're into it.

[SPEAKER_00]: Oh yeah.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's almost like most of the likes, yeah.

[SPEAKER_04]: Damn, okay, I'm amazing.

[SPEAKER_04]: So I just wanna understand about it, I don't need to understand.

[SPEAKER_04]: I'm not your target demo.

[SPEAKER_00]: Go.

[SPEAKER_04]: That's totally fine.

[SPEAKER_04]: And then your last photo, I absolutely love it.

[SPEAKER_04]: It is you shooting pool and you, it's like cool lighting because you're in a bar and you have this awesome smile on your face.

[SPEAKER_04]: I really love it.

[SPEAKER_04]: I think that's great.

[SPEAKER_04]: So really my only suggestion, well, two suggestions.

[SPEAKER_04]: One, replace either the pumpkin photo or the cat photo with a volleyball video.

[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.

[SPEAKER_04]: And then add one additional full body because you've got rid of one.

[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.

[SPEAKER_04]: And I don't mind the pumpkin one.

[SPEAKER_04]: Like I would say, if you have a volleyball video that you can add soon, just replace the cat one and like the pumpkin one's fine.

[SPEAKER_04]: It's not a glitches by any means.

[SPEAKER_04]: It's a little chaotic a little bit and you already have the Danny de Vito like this is a funny conversation starter type photo.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_04]: So I don't think you really need a personality moment.

[SPEAKER_04]: Don't I mean, Tony, how do you feel about our summary of the photos.

[SPEAKER_01]: I agree with the only thing about the Danny de Vito when I think it's funny and I think it fits.

[SPEAKER_01]: I like kind of goofy she is.

[SPEAKER_01]: But it doesn't look like you all the way.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's not like my, but it's like not in your version.

[SPEAKER_01]: So I feel like, but it's like, could you use a different photo?

[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

[SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to redo it though because you have to like pay for a trial.

[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, it's fair.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's not.

[SPEAKER_00]: And it's almost Halloween anyway.

[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

[SPEAKER_04]: That's why I was like, I don't really understand the joke.

[SPEAKER_00]: But if people are understanding the joke, then I think it's fine.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so I get a lot of like the troll toll stuff and like people I don't know that's it that's great.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, like that this is I think a victim was crime and this you know in the sense that like it also although it doesn't look quite like you I think it is like very clearly obviously a I generated due to the fact that you're in a photo with any video so it's like it's not it's not there's not a catfish situation happening here and it's like deep in your profile.

[SPEAKER_04]: It's very clearly a joke.

[SPEAKER_04]: And if it's working for you, it's working for you.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I don't need to understand.

[SPEAKER_00]: True.

[SPEAKER_00]: I agree, though.

[SPEAKER_00]: Pumpkin want us to go, I think I just get, like, there's, you have to have six, and I'm like, that's so many different things you have to do.

[SPEAKER_00]: I just want all these, you know, like, but yeah, the volleyball video is a good idea.

[SPEAKER_04]: And then I think that's going to be perfect.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

[SPEAKER_04]: And then one more full body.

[SPEAKER_04]: And then you're good to go.

[SPEAKER_04]: Or you could do one more like smiling face.

[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, we great.

[SPEAKER_04]: So those are your photos.

[SPEAKER_04]: And then the last thing to talk about on the hinge profile are your prompts.

[SPEAKER_04]: You want to read as your first one.

[SPEAKER_00]: First one is four.

[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I could say up all night talking about horror movies.

[SPEAKER_00]: I'm obsessed.

[SPEAKER_00]: I have seen quite a few.

[SPEAKER_00]: A recent one.

[SPEAKER_00]: I enjoyed his bring her back.

[SPEAKER_00]: And then parentheses minus the biting objects parts.

[SPEAKER_04]: Print.

[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know what that means.

[SPEAKER_04]: And I don't want to.

[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know.

[SPEAKER_04]: I hate horror movies so much.

[SPEAKER_04]: I like the concept of this prompt, Tony, what do you think?

[SPEAKER_01]: I do, too.

[SPEAKER_04]: But I think you can reorder them.

[SPEAKER_04]: You can.

[SPEAKER_01]: That's my one thing.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, so we can talk about the order of it after we talk about all the prompts for sure.

[SPEAKER_00]: And it seems like maybe I'm inflating.

[SPEAKER_00]: I watch horror movies quite like two nights a week, like I'm obsessed with horror movies.

[SPEAKER_00]: So it's not something that like, that's amazing.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so it is something I want on there because I want to watch movies with.

[SPEAKER_00]: I love going the movies.

[SPEAKER_04]: There's also a stat from like a study quite a long time ago that indicates that successful relationships or like a relationship is more likely to be successful if both people either love horror movies or both people hate them.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_04]: That's like a thing.

[SPEAKER_04]: So find your horror movie king is what I'm saying.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_04]: That being said, I don't get your voice as much in this prompt until the parentheses at the end.

[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like someone's when I'm writing, I'm very at ADHD, I think when I'm writing sometimes, I do it kind of strict because it's it's hard for me to find my voice in writing.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_00]: So I don't know how to, like, how should I revise it to a more casual?

[SPEAKER_04]: I think a couple of phrasing.

[SPEAKER_04]: OK.

[SPEAKER_04]: So I love the beginning of horror movies, exclamation point.

[SPEAKER_04]: the I've seen quite a few and a recent one I enjoyed those per yeah those particular phrasings are giving like a little bit corporate and of you the fuck am I to talk right like I taught corporate but you don't so that's what I'm reacting to I'm not reacting to like oh I don't like that phrasing I'm reacting to this doesn't sound like Katie I agree because if they when we meet up they're gonna be like [SPEAKER_00]: you're talking about.

[SPEAKER_04]: Or I just won't speak to the person that you're looking for because you're looking for somebody who wants your voice and that's not your voice.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you.

[SPEAKER_04]: So I would just think, just think about it a little bit more casually.

[SPEAKER_04]: Like you, I think I'm obsessed as great.

[SPEAKER_04]: You could, you could also just cut out the middle part.

[SPEAKER_04]: You could say like horror movies.

[SPEAKER_04]: I'm obsessed, I watch them at least once a week, or like I'm obsessed, I watch one at least twice a week, or whatever you wanna say.

[SPEAKER_04]: And then you could say like, the last one was bring her back or something like that.

[SPEAKER_00]: Not too good, I like that.

[SPEAKER_04]: But just, the, again, the bones are there.

[SPEAKER_04]: But just like a slight tweak.

[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, prompt number two, I'm looking for.

[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, I really value altruism, authenticity, honesty, kindness, and open communication.

[SPEAKER_00]: Also, it's kind of a jumble book.

[SPEAKER_00]: It was also someone who loved sports in life music.

[SPEAKER_00]: A reason, concert I went to was link when 82 and it was amazing.

[SPEAKER_04]: Tony, I'll go to you first.

[SPEAKER_04]: What do you think?

[SPEAKER_01]: I agree with her what she's saying, [SPEAKER_01]: from what I know of Katie, but it seems like to separate sections.

[SPEAKER_04]: If we go back to the conversation we had about Tony's prompts, what would a person respond to this?

[SPEAKER_04]: The second part about Blinkland 82, I can see so many things somebody would say.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yes.

[SPEAKER_04]: The first part about valuing altruism, authenticity, honesty, kindness, and open communication.

[SPEAKER_04]: I would say four out of five of those words are probably words that most people would describe themselves as, even if they're not true.

[SPEAKER_00]: True.

[SPEAKER_04]: So I think the specificity isn't there.

[SPEAKER_04]: Like, you would be hard press to find somebody who would say like, altruistic is the one that I think is pretty specific and not everybody would say they're altruistic.

[SPEAKER_04]: But I think you'd be hard press to find someone who says, I'm not authentic on as kind and I don't communicate openly.

[SPEAKER_00]: That's a good point.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, sure.

[SPEAKER_04]: You know, so I don't know that you're like doing anything with the prompt because it describes everyone will think it describes them.

[SPEAKER_04]: It doesn't, but they will think it does.

[SPEAKER_00]: That's a good point.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, so I could just take out the first sentence, which, and then just do the, I can do the sports one and then talk more about like volleyball.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, bring a lot in there.

[SPEAKER_01]: You could put like, um, someone who knows that even baddies get saddies because it's like that's like the feelings part of it.

[SPEAKER_01]: We're at the kindness and open communication.

[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I think we can do more with it.

[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

[SPEAKER_01]: I think we can do for that for the.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_01]: This is that corporate that we're going to respond.

[SPEAKER_01]: That second one is like, then I can hear you say it.

[SPEAKER_04]: Well, totally agree.

[SPEAKER_04]: Totally agree.

[SPEAKER_04]: You could even bring in the altruistic thing.

[SPEAKER_04]: Like you could say, like I'm looking for someone altruistic who loves live music.

[SPEAKER_04]: Like you could, it doesn't have to be only one thing.

[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

[SPEAKER_04]: But I would just shorten it so that it's not so many things.

[SPEAKER_00]: I feel that.

[SPEAKER_04]: And also, maybe ask them a question.

[SPEAKER_04]: Like, what's the best live show you've been to?

[SPEAKER_04]: Or if you end up talking about volleyball, you could be like, is there a hobby that you still do that you love?

[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

[SPEAKER_00]: Like some sort of thing.

[SPEAKER_00]: I would want someone that is doing something active.

[SPEAKER_04]: So yeah.

[SPEAKER_04]: And right now, we're not really getting that on your profile.

[SPEAKER_04]: Although, not necessarily true, because you could bring it into your next prompt, which is, [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, the one thing that you should know about me, I say I love to try new things and get out of my comfort zone.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yoga, what's my newest venture next to this pottery?

[SPEAKER_04]: I love that.

[SPEAKER_04]: I think that's great.

[SPEAKER_04]: I might add a question.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

[SPEAKER_01]: Ooh, what's yours?

[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.

[SPEAKER_00]: It would be so known.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, and if you especially, if you are looking for somebody who vibes with that kind of thing, who wants to also try new things and is also already doing that, [SPEAKER_04]: Like if that's a key value of yours that you're looking for, then the person you're looking for will be able to answer that question.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, because I don't think I would be a song that doesn't, isn't open-minded and doesn't want to go try things in the city or whatever.

[SPEAKER_04]: You know, you could even say something as simple as what's the last new thing you tried.

[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, it's good, I'll let that go.

[SPEAKER_04]: And I think that would then start to speak to that value that you're talking about.

[SPEAKER_04]: Between that and sort of adjusting the second prompt, I also going back to Tony's original call out about the order.

[SPEAKER_04]: I do think horror movies could probably come down at a your first spot.

[SPEAKER_04]: Maybe it becomes your second.

[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

[SPEAKER_04]: And you lead with something that's, has one of those prompt questions in it.

[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.

[SPEAKER_04]: All right, how are you feeling?

[SPEAKER_00]: I feel good.

[SPEAKER_00]: I think those were good suggestions.

[SPEAKER_00]: I think, yeah, you guys pointed out things.

[SPEAKER_00]: Thought about, but I didn't know how to fix it.

[SPEAKER_00]: So this is, let's see that.

[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, of course you did.

[SPEAKER_04]: Good, I'm so glad.

[SPEAKER_04]: And I think it's been really cool to also hear the two of you talk about each other's profiles, and especially like Tony or Colot about Katie's prompts were like the first half you can't imagine her saying it all, but then the second half you hear her voice.

[SPEAKER_04]: Like I think that's so important to think about because like you're looking, you are a person.

[SPEAKER_04]: You both are people, and you're looking for people.

[SPEAKER_04]: you know, so like you want to come across that way.

[SPEAKER_04]: And both of you are really vibrant people.

[SPEAKER_04]: And so I, you know, I want that to come across in your profiles, which in a large part of does, which is great.

[SPEAKER_04]: Well, yay.

[SPEAKER_04]: Well, thank you both for being so vulnerable and opening up your dating out profiles to the listeners.

[SPEAKER_04]: Very excited to hear your updates coming up in a soon to come episode.

[SPEAKER_04]: And to everybody else, I'll talk to you next week.