[SPEAKER_03]: and he swings, hits it high, and deep, and go!

[SPEAKER_03]: Still not bad, man!

[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, come to the favorings, deep to center field, and it is gone!

[SPEAKER_03]: Wow, his first big league swing is gonna be a grand slam on the whole run, swing and drive!

[SPEAKER_03]: Not tonight, look up to the show!

[SPEAKER_00]: We've been overdue for one of these on the call-up.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's time for a re-draft, the 2022 class, arm-laten, Jack McMullen.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's been a while, man.

[SPEAKER_00]: I'm trying to remember the last time we did it.

[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe two off-season to go.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's always been fun.

[SPEAKER_00]: And we're always trying to find that sweet spot where we can still talk relevant prospects, but also mix in some big legures and some diving, just some debate in between.

[SPEAKER_00]: And I feel like the 2022 class is kind of perfect for that.

[SPEAKER_01]: I think so.

[SPEAKER_01]: You always have to have it kind of prospect facing, right?

[SPEAKER_01]: Because it's no longer a prospect conversation if we were to go back and do the 2019 redraft to the 2020 redraft, but it's also way too early in the burn to do a 24 redraft.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_01]: And then 23, it's like, okay, that's probably the other one that's fair game.

[SPEAKER_01]: I think 22's a greater challenge, which is why we skewed this way.

[SPEAKER_00]: We think we need more time because that might be one where some later round picks are are definitely and that happens in any draft, but are really sneaking their way up when it comes to that class, so it but there's there's I don't know there's a lot of challenges that come with it because there's not really a super easy way to canvas every single round right like you go and baseball reference you go like round by round by round by round and then that's one way you can do it, but [SPEAKER_00]: There's there's always like a 10th or 11th round pick that sneaks by.

[SPEAKER_00]: So if we miss somebody, just let us know in the replies, I think we did a pretty good job, but not missing anybody, but again, you you never know and especially with the way baseball is nowadays where you can be in 11th round pick and a couple years later, be making a big league impact like it's it's just it makes it really unique and difficult, but [SPEAKER_00]: I think we've got our pool of names.

[SPEAKER_00]: The big leagueers, you know, it's up for debate and feel free to comment, let us know, like what you actually think that player where they should be or whatever, but because, again, it's a little bit of a subject, a little bit more subjective in that respect, but then it gets even more subjective when you got prospect versus a big leagueer, that's the fun part of this exercise.

[SPEAKER_00]: But number one is not very difficult.

[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think so at all.

[SPEAKER_01]: I also will say at the end of the episode itself, we're gonna go through the names that we felt like we left on the chopping block.

[SPEAKER_01]: So that is your opportunity to hear us go through the names and say, wait, those idiots forgot this guy.

[SPEAKER_01]: And then you can comment there.

[SPEAKER_01]: So hold your comments until we run through everybody.

[SPEAKER_00]: Sounds good.

[SPEAKER_00]: Number one.

[SPEAKER_00]: Roman Anthony.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, Roman Anthony was originally what a high school kid taken in the second round Roman Anthony in terms of overall selection was what in the top 70, but just inside the top 70.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think overall pick Roman was the 79th pick.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_00]: right after Lake Berkhalter, Tucker Tolman, Cade Dody, and just before Andrew Taylor.

[SPEAKER_00]: That's his why MLVs draft is so much fun.

[SPEAKER_00]: At not only is Roman the slam dunk number one pick, I think you start doing like that.

[SPEAKER_00]: Well, we did on the just baseball show.

[SPEAKER_00]: You start doing a, [SPEAKER_00]: MLB franchise, Dynasty draft and Roman is creeping up and creeping up and creeping up in terms of how early you take him given the age, given the performance already and given what he can be.

[SPEAKER_00]: Obviously it was a number one prospect for us.

[SPEAKER_00]: There was funny too like looking looking back at like when we did the historical prospect listing, I was trying to find [SPEAKER_00]: Roman Anthony might be one of the best prospects ever to not to not be ranked number one because of the rookie Sasaki thing.

[SPEAKER_00]: In terms of the consensus, I'm not saying that to pat ourselves on the back saying it because when you look at historical, you know, it's out prospect list.

[SPEAKER_00]: You probably assume you're going to see Roman there, you know, and on the baseball America archives or whatever, but the rookie unique circumstance kind of buried them there.

[SPEAKER_01]: 100% another thing about Roman.

[SPEAKER_01]: I'm looking at what the Red Sox did that draft.

[SPEAKER_01]: It was an interesting draft for them.

[SPEAKER_01]: And among their top five picks, we might actually pick another guy that they took, who is playing for another team in the major leagues right now, but their first two picks before Roman Anthony at 79 overall, Mikey Romero at 24th and Cutter Coffee at 41st overall.

[SPEAKER_01]: So they went, Mikey Romero Cutter Coffee, Roman Anthony, and they're in lies the magic of [SPEAKER_01]: I will also start each pick with the original selection and the original selection by Baltimore is not a bad one at all.

[SPEAKER_01]: Jackson holiday, you probably won't need to wait much longer in this episode for holiday to be selected.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, and with how chaotic the top end of this draft ended up being holiday looks like it honestly is good of a pick.

[SPEAKER_00]: Think about the names that were actually expected to more likely go then holiday right holiday was seen as kind of a third or fourth most likely option for the number one pick leading into it.

[SPEAKER_00]: excellent pick, all things considered, you know, because they could have very easily won a few different directions.

[SPEAKER_00]: Guys, it may still be big ligars, but we'll not be taking these top 30 selections.

[SPEAKER_01]: Well, number two was one of those guys and not so much a great pick for Arizona.

[SPEAKER_01]: It was Drew Jones initially.

[SPEAKER_01]: I guess like a quick 20 second blurb on what went wrong with the original pick could be a good use of our time, I think.

[SPEAKER_01]: Um, what do you feel like people missed in terms of Drew Jones?

[SPEAKER_01]: Obviously, the swing needed a ton of work.

[SPEAKER_01]: He had the shoulder issue right after being drafted.

[SPEAKER_01]: What else has gone wrong for Drew Jones, I guess.

[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's that, right?

[SPEAKER_00]: The swing needed a ton of work, but I think, you know, you draft a high school kid with bloodlines who is an elite defender, uh, you know, who has room to grow.

[SPEAKER_00]: And you assume that you're going to be able to rework that swing.

[SPEAKER_00]: And just sometimes it's not, [SPEAKER_00]: in the cards for guys and so.

[SPEAKER_00]: I think it just boils down to that.

[SPEAKER_00]: When you look at the player archetype, it makes sense that teams would gravitate towards that, like the perceived floor is so high because elite defender, great speed, room for power.

[SPEAKER_00]: But if you can't repattern and get the swing to where it needs to be, then it's gonna be very hard to be good.

[SPEAKER_00]: That's Eddie took a step in the right direction, I'll show you, and he's gonna be a big leaker.

[SPEAKER_00]: Like he's gonna get big leake time off the glove and I think at least just the ability to, [SPEAKER_00]: hopefully hold his own and like be a 600's LPS guy for that.

[SPEAKER_00]: You're going to be a fourth out filter.

[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, I just this one never got right and it still kind of looks like a version of what it was out of high school and it's just some guys can't you know get their body to move the way that they want to.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so revised number two pick.

[SPEAKER_01]: This is where the discussion starts after Roman Anthony and you threw me one name and I countered with the other and you said, yeah, we're probably [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I thought about Mr.

Rowski here just off the upside, but he's a picture and we could get, you know, and every day proven established short stop here and and I think you do that right with with Zack now remember we're not we're not.

[SPEAKER_00]: considering control like every player that you're taking here you're getting six years of control right it's not like their current big league situation because then that would create a little bit of a different discussion right you're getting more years of his rescue would be different if it's six years of a short stop I'm going to roll with that and [SPEAKER_00]: I called back to, and I know you used a version of this stat during the season on broadcast.

[SPEAKER_00]: And then like, we updated it on our Twitter, which by the way, our Twitter team is just unbelievable.

[SPEAKER_00]: So you should definitely follow them and follow our Twitter.

[SPEAKER_00]: But this isn't comparing them these two, but it just is a reference point.

[SPEAKER_00]: The only short stop sends integration to record multiple 2020 seasons with 5 plus B award before turning 25.

[SPEAKER_00]: Like that sounds specific.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's really not that specific.

[SPEAKER_00]: Those are just really good numbers.

[SPEAKER_00]: Alex Rodriguez, 1997, 1998, Zack Nano, 2024, 2025.

[SPEAKER_00]: That already I think says a lot in terms of just what he can do, but I also, and I've said this on the just baseball show a bunch.

[SPEAKER_00]: I think Zack Nettos, one of the most underrated players in major league baseball because he's kind of on this team that no one really cares about that's never really going to compete.

[SPEAKER_00]: And he was banged up a little bit, you know, I think in that.

[SPEAKER_00]: rookie season.

[SPEAKER_00]: I'm trying to remember when he missed a little bit of time.

[SPEAKER_00]: And then yeah, I just I feel like he hasn't even fully been on Lee ship, but this guy at 26 homers, Austria, and still 26 packs.

[SPEAKER_00]: And by the way, the defense has has come along a little bit to where he looks like he can be serviceable there.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's up, but why can't?

[SPEAKER_00]: A 25 year old Zack nettle, be 25 for the entirety of the season next year, take another step forward defensively.

[SPEAKER_00]: You took a step forward power wise.

[SPEAKER_00]: I think the approach, you know, you hope you can walk a little bit more.

[SPEAKER_00]: But I mean, you're getting potential 30, 30 from short stop and at the very least, 25, 25.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm going to sign up for that, especially at 25 years old.

[SPEAKER_00]: He's not even yet.

[SPEAKER_01]: for sure, and Pound for Pound, 2025 was better for him than 2024.

[SPEAKER_01]: He was hampered a little bit in 2023.

[SPEAKER_01]: He played 84 games in his first taste and major league baseball, hit 225 with the 685 OPS.

[SPEAKER_01]: It was not awesome.

[SPEAKER_01]: And then in 2024, he gives you 155 games at 23 bombs, 30 stolen bases, and a 760 OPS, a 112 OPS plus, and it was a 5.1B war season.

[SPEAKER_01]: He replicated a 5.1B war season, he had three more homers, he had four fewer stolen bases, and the OPS was 32 points higher, and he did that in 30 fewer games.

[SPEAKER_01]: He played 155 games in 2024, he played a 128 games in 2025.

[SPEAKER_01]: He wouldn't want, he wouldn't want, he wouldn't want, he wouldn't want, he wouldn't want, he wouldn't want, he wouldn't want, he wouldn't want, he wouldn't want, he wouldn't want, he wouldn't want, he wouldn't want, he wouldn't want, he wouldn't want, he wouldn't want, he wouldn't want, he wouldn't want, he wouldn't want, he wouldn't want, he wouldn't want, he wouldn't want, he wouldn't want, he wouldn't want, he wouldn't want, he wouldn't want, he wouldn't want, he wouldn't want, he wouldn't want, he wouldn't want, he wouldn't want, he wouldn't want, he wouldn't want, he wouldn't want, he wouldn't want, he wouldn't want, he wouldn't want, he wouldn't want, he wouldn't want, he wouldn't want, he wouldn't want, he wouldn't want, he wouldn't want, he wouldn't want, he wouldn't want, he wouldn't [SPEAKER_01]: I took Nettar to be my second basement, and the comments were so polarizing on Nettar.

[SPEAKER_01]: People were like, Jack's team was great until Nettar, and then it was base take taking into.

[SPEAKER_01]: People love him, people think he's not there yet, he's there folks, open your third eye.

[SPEAKER_00]: And also, I think about where he how he's gotten there in terms of the the track.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's the Angels track, which is eliminate the track and skip it.

[SPEAKER_00]: He played 37 minor league games in 222 and this wasn't a guy coming out at SEC, but on a Campbell, then goes 37 games in high A in double A, then plays 11 more games in double A and triple A or no, just I think like a handful more games just double A and then he's in the show.

[SPEAKER_00]: So like this is a dude that played [SPEAKER_00]: 50 minor league games like less than 50 minor league games.

[SPEAKER_00]: So he's still progressing at the big league level as well.

[SPEAKER_00]: And like he has not even had the opportunity to develop that some of these other players have had.

[SPEAKER_00]: So I think that's the other part where aside from the age, like he is not had a ton of time compared to other players, he's had to learn at the big league level, which is a lot harder for a hit or to do.

[SPEAKER_00]: He's going to keep getting better.

[SPEAKER_00]: And I think that's why he's the number two pick and a good call by you.

[SPEAKER_01]: And the last point is the struggle for him at the major league level was as well documented is really anybody over the last few years how many times have you seen that Bryce Miller AB where Bryce Miller is holding his leg and forcing him to put the the knee down like there were so many things that were exposed right away from netto and blown up and what does he do it makes tangible changes and this guy's put up one of the better starts to a shortstop career that we've seen since integration.

[SPEAKER_00]: Well, and what did I just say about Drew Jones like it's not that easy to just make that change when you've hit a certain way your whole life and for net out to be able to do that I think just shows you how hit or is she is right like he can just find different ways to hit is that like annoying guy that you can probably do he could probably impersonate different hitters and still get good swings off like that that's what makes him I think so good.

[SPEAKER_00]: Number three is already where it opens up because I think all of the things I'm just going to set the stage on a few different guys and then you can go to historic pick because it just leads right in well.

[SPEAKER_00]: All of the things we said about Zack Neto, I think are very applicable to Jackson Holiday on like a lighter scale of where it's for sure.

[SPEAKER_00]: He was 21 years old last year, and I think there's like prospects fatigue with a big leager here where people are like, oh, I've seen people be like, oh, why don't we gonna talk about how Jackson Holiday hasn't lived up to the hype yet?

[SPEAKER_00]: It's 17 homers, it's so 17 bags this year, it's 21 years old, and it's only getting stronger and better and just more well-rounded in general, with good peripherals.

[SPEAKER_00]: I don't, I first, I wanted to dock him more, but then I was looking more at the dad and watching him like, he's, he's underrated.

[SPEAKER_00]: And then you have the, and I'll rookie the year winner and then you have Jacob Miserowski.

[SPEAKER_00]: And then you also have the guy that people think should have won the NL rookie the year and then you have the guy that versus on the scene, the American League, you know, on the mound with the Yankees.

[SPEAKER_00]: So where do you, where do you line up here?

[SPEAKER_01]: So the original number three pick a Texas was Kumar Rocker.

[SPEAKER_01]: And this was a year after Rocker went 10 in New York and then the physical deal and then he was a Tri-City Valley cat for a minute.

[SPEAKER_01]: And that wasn't the frontier league.

[SPEAKER_01]: It was a different league.

[SPEAKER_01]: But no, so Kumar Rocker, it's an interesting pick.

[SPEAKER_01]: I still think Rocker gets taken in these 30 picks that we have.

[SPEAKER_00]: He's a difficult player to assess too, but yes, because if he makes the move into the bullpen, even like, I don't call it be effective in that role.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, my lean to be totally honest with you is Baldwin and the reason that I lean Baldwin.

[SPEAKER_01]: It was better defensively at the major league level that I could have anticipated it being.

[SPEAKER_01]: I thought that there was a world where Drake Baldwin was serviceable, big league catcher, but Sean Murphy was just so much better defensively than Atlanta ran him out, and Baldwin was relegated to 110 games, and Murphy was pretty much the everyday catcher, and Ozone was the [SPEAKER_01]: Number two, it really helped that Murphy was hurt at a certain point, and you never wish injury on someone, but they can coexist in the lineup in 26 and beyond, and it was a silver lining for Alex Anthopolis for Brian Snicker, for a new manager, Walt Weiss, to see Baldwin get that run.

[SPEAKER_01]: For me, him taking that opportunity defensively and running with it was everything that I needed to see because we knew what the bat could be, you laid it out perfectly in several top 100s before his major league debut.

[SPEAKER_01]: When this guy debuted, in spring training, all I heard from Braves People was, [SPEAKER_01]: you got to see this kid hit, you got to see this kid hit.

[SPEAKER_01]: Everybody watched him hit, but for me knowing that he can be an everyday catcher and is probably a fringe top 10 catcher in baseball because the catching position is pretty darn thin right now, going into his second year, that's what gives me his edge at three.

[SPEAKER_00]: I think the part I agree with all of that and I think when we put we pushed them up really high on the top 100 list by you know the final update before he would have graduated right going into to to the start of the season and.

[SPEAKER_00]: I'm trying to remember exactly where he was.

[SPEAKER_00]: He was definitely in the top 30.

[SPEAKER_00]: I think maybe I've been in the top one T.

I gotta try to remember back, but it was because of some of those defensive progressions that he has made and just like looking like he could be average there, at least, but emphasis on the at least now.

[SPEAKER_00]: Like he looks like he could be to your point, above average there.

[SPEAKER_00]: And the other side was, [SPEAKER_00]: I felt good about him being able to hit for a buff average power and being an average bat to ball guy, maybe slightly above, he only punched out 15% of the time last year.

[SPEAKER_00]: And then you look at some of the bat speed components, he is, he's pretty freaky.

[SPEAKER_00]: And like, bat speed is only a small, like, it's a big part of it, but it's also a small part of it where like you can look at the bat speed later boards and say like, okay, there's some, there's some not very good hitters in here at the top, but then you can also see some, [SPEAKER_00]: When you can blend the field of hit and you know, I think even the approach that that we saw from from Baldwin, which got better as a year progressed and then that bad speed that he has like there's even more in there from a power perspective it's a great blocker think the receiving sent a continue to get better.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you're getting a three win catcher already and he's probably going to be better than that next year and he's a lot in the hitter.

[SPEAKER_01]: That's people with a 15% K-Raid, no by the way, walked in an eight and a half percent clip too.

[SPEAKER_01]: Like that's really exciting and that's a blend of stuff that you're willing to bet on at all times is swimming full health.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm with that pick.

[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, cool.

[SPEAKER_01]: So we go Baldwin at three, by the way, Drake Baldwin the 96th overall pick and the fifth pick.

[SPEAKER_01]: I the by the Atlanta Braves in 22.

[SPEAKER_01]: They went Owen Murphy at 20.

[SPEAKER_01]: JR Richie at 35, Cole Phillips at 57, Blake Berkhalter at 76.

[SPEAKER_01]: By the way, Nacho Alvarez at 155.

[SPEAKER_01]: He won't go in this one, but that's it.

[SPEAKER_01]: That's a fun and I'm back back in 155.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_01]: So.

[SPEAKER_01]: That's solid stuff.

[SPEAKER_01]: Number four, this was another guy that was rumored to go one one to Mar Johnson was the original pick by the Pittsburgh Pirates.

[SPEAKER_01]: It just hasn't really worked because nobody knew what to Mar Johnson was going to be.

[SPEAKER_01]: It's professional baseball.

[SPEAKER_01]: We heard this guy was the best amateur hitter of the last decade.

[SPEAKER_01]: And then all of a sudden the hit tool goes away and he's like an insanely raw pop guy.

[SPEAKER_01]: And he's just trying to find the blend.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he's been fine, you know, and he said some good really good stretches, but overall it's been fine.

[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's clearly going to be a big league bat, and then it's just a question of, you know, what capacity, but I think yeah, it still looks like it's going to be the power over hit with with the approach pushing him over and I think the approach is what makes me feel like it'll be, you know, fine, bat for second basement.

[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, he's probably not a guy that we're going to see taking any time soon here in this conversation, especially with some of the guys that we have available here right now you go holiday or Missorowski here because I feel like those are the clear cut top two and then you've got Horton and Schlittler falling just behind yeah it's hard I think when you're thinking about ceiling like Missorowski has a chance to.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's a really alter things for you, right?

[SPEAKER_00]: Like I really like holiday, but I really like holiday to be a great complimentary piece to my Gunner Henderson, right?

[SPEAKER_00]: Like Jacob and his are asking, man, up being just a great complimentary piece.

[SPEAKER_00]: Like you may end up being an elite bullpin piece for me or a volatile starter, but he also could be a franchise altering starter, and I think that's why you got to go with Miz there.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, I'm 100% with you.

[SPEAKER_01]: Nobody else is really giving you four scoreless against the Dodgers and the CS, Paul pumping 103 on this list.

[SPEAKER_01]: I just think that has to matter at a certain point.

[SPEAKER_01]: Ms.

Rowski was 63rd overall pick in the Brewers at a Crouter College in Missouri.

[SPEAKER_01]: One of my favorite what-ifs that presented itself this year, I had no idea Ms.

Rowski was committed to LSU when the Brewers took it.

[SPEAKER_01]: So that 23 rotation, [SPEAKER_01]: could have been Paul Schins, Jacob Miserowski, and Ty Floyd with that forcing fastball, complimenting an offense with Dylan Cruz, Tommy White, Tray Morgan, Cade Ballosa, like that lineup was loaded and oh, by the way, their weekend rotation could have been Schins, Miserowski Floyd.

[SPEAKER_00]: That's already arguably the best college baseball team we've seen, and they would have been in our Uble.

[SPEAKER_00]: I think if you had Miserowski on there, [SPEAKER_01]: insane, absolutely insane.

[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm with you on Miserowski.

[SPEAKER_01]: Like that's the guy with, I think the clearest close your eyes and see ace upside vision that you have, you know, obviously Horton and Schlittler exist, but they feel like good toes.

[SPEAKER_01]: Miserowski is the one with one potential there.

[SPEAKER_01]: So, as we go to five, you got anything else on Miserno?

[SPEAKER_00]: No, that's, that's it.

[SPEAKER_00]: I think teams too, if you're trying to put yourself in like, you know, team shoes, like they're going to take that shot.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, as we go to five to pick by Washington was Elijah Greene, I would ask you to pull up the K rate and it's just just look at the look at the be I look at baseball reference or fan graphs unfortunately, you can't hate on the pick though like look at the look at the kid like watching move look out powerful he is dad was an NFL player like just sometimes doesn't come together.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, uh, new number five.

[SPEAKER_01]: Hallelujah.

[SPEAKER_01]: This is Territard.

[SPEAKER_01]: Holiday Horton Schlittler.

[SPEAKER_01]: I think I lean holiday at this point.

[SPEAKER_00]: We're definitely definitely have a bat bias, like, because it's just with pictures, it's hard, too, because you just like, yeah, you see what they did at the big leg level, and then it's like, okay, like, can can make extrapolate this now over.

[SPEAKER_00]: 30 or 20 plus starts.

[SPEAKER_00]: I think or though did show us over a pretty good portion of games here, I spent like if you add in the two postseason starts, a two six 80 R A and 16 starts with a 27% K rate and an eight and a half percent log rate.

[SPEAKER_00]: Fastball average 98 in that stretch.

[SPEAKER_00]: This is where it is tough for me.

[SPEAKER_00]: I like, I make the underrated Jackson holiday case and everything.

[SPEAKER_00]: Anderson, the peripherals, too, like, aren't spotless, fish litler.

[SPEAKER_00]: So, I don't know.

[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

[SPEAKER_00]: I know, it's your winning holiday.

[SPEAKER_01]: I lean holiday just because you take the burden hand of the everyday bat that can play a short stop.

[SPEAKER_01]: It can also be one of the better second-based been in baseball the next year or two.

[SPEAKER_01]: He's like knocking on the door.

[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like you didn't really see that in 2024, but in 2025, and a lot of people just kind of ignored it because Baltimore was incredibly underwhelming, but Jackson Holiday in his age 21 season was totally knocking on the door of that possible future startup.

[SPEAKER_01]: I know the season long numbers don't look great.

[SPEAKER_01]: The OPS under 700, but he hits 17 homers.

[SPEAKER_01]: I know.

[SPEAKER_01]: As a 21 year old in the big leagues, and he was really comfortable at the top of that line up.

[SPEAKER_01]: He was hitting lead off for them for the majority of the year.

[SPEAKER_01]: I like him a lot.

[SPEAKER_01]: He's one of my like breakout picks.

[SPEAKER_01]: I guess in 2026.

[SPEAKER_01]: So I guess I'm just betting on the breakout of the everyday second basement.

[SPEAKER_01]: And you know if he wasn't sharing a middle infield with Gunnar Henderson, he'd be playing shortstop in an okay shortstop for many other teams.

[SPEAKER_00]: That's what I figured.

[SPEAKER_00]: The weird part is, [SPEAKER_00]: how poorly he grated out by the advanced metrics at second.

[SPEAKER_00]: Really.

[SPEAKER_00]: Stress is me out to doesn't make any sense.

[SPEAKER_01]: I will tell you the eye test was fine.

[SPEAKER_00]: Like I know.

[SPEAKER_01]: I think him when I when I got the opportunity to I was like this is pretty good.

[SPEAKER_01]: It looks like a short sound.

[SPEAKER_01]: It looks good.

[SPEAKER_00]: It looks good to me.

[SPEAKER_00]: Negative 10 to R S.

That's great.

[SPEAKER_01]: There's got to be some sort of clerical error.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, well, should we show you reach out sports and the solutions.

[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to reach out to big data.

[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, I think you got a holiday wrong, but I like you hit lead off all year.

[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it was a team that was probably tough to stay locked in on all year want to.

[SPEAKER_00]: Um, and you know, I feel like he got better, you know, as a season progressed, but I mean, I'm I'm I'm really torn here.

[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I'll go with the 22 year old bat.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_00]: Where was Cam Schlittler two years ago?

[SPEAKER_00]: Three years ago.

[SPEAKER_01]: Ah, he was at Northeastern, right?

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_00]: So we'll go holiday.

[SPEAKER_01]: Cool.

[SPEAKER_01]: All right, so we'll go Jackson holiday five.

[SPEAKER_01]: As we pivot to six, the original number six overall pick was Jacob Barry by the Miami Marlins.

[SPEAKER_01]: It defensive limitations, obviously the all around game offensively was not to the level that I think anybody was.

[SPEAKER_01]: forecasting within the Maryland's organization.

[SPEAKER_00]: And, uh, general.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it just seemed like everybody thought he was one of the best pure college hitters available in that draft class.

[SPEAKER_01]: And you mentioned there were some data red flags there.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, there were, and it wasn't like Marlon's specific, though, I think you call back to that draft.

[SPEAKER_00]: I think there was a lot of players that they could have looked at that fit them more.

[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, the EVs were just never really there for him.

[SPEAKER_00]: And like even in those big college seasons, they weren't there.

[SPEAKER_00]: So figure the margin for error becomes rather thin.

[SPEAKER_00]: And that's exactly what happened with Barry.

[SPEAKER_00]: He's, you know, he's, let me try to get him a little bit more power.

[SPEAKER_00]: You know, it lost a little bit of that that bats a ball because when he was geared up for bats a ball and just trying to spray the ball over the yard like it's not very fast.

[SPEAKER_00]: Like so it was just weird kind of tween or profile.

[SPEAKER_00]: He did have his best season as a pro this past year and got better as a year progressed and you know, I think he's going to play his way into a big league opportunity at some point.

[SPEAKER_00]: I think the other part is I don't think anybody really anticipated the defense to be as bad as it was.

[SPEAKER_00]: Like, it's at the point where I don't really, you're trying to stash him somewhere and just hope he's not a liability.

[SPEAKER_00]: And that's part of the problem as well.

[SPEAKER_00]: And that's probably going to be right field.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.

[SPEAKER_01]: Hortner Schlittler here at six.

[SPEAKER_00]: I'm almost always going to go with the stuff.

[SPEAKER_00]: but you have a larger sample of better numbers from Cate Horton.

[SPEAKER_01]: So, which is so funny if we were having this conversation on December 18th, 2024 instead of 2025, if you were to lead with that, number one, I would have said, who the hell is Camp Slyther?

[SPEAKER_01]: Number two, I would have said, well, Cate has some of the loudest stuff in modern league baseball.

[SPEAKER_01]: But when he got to the big leagues for some reason that the case went down like obviously he was in advanced picture in minor league baseball, but I mean, like the slider jumped out is one of the nastier pitches in the minor leagues.

[SPEAKER_01]: Slytler was just this powerful guy that wasn't refined whatsoever and Horton was the nastier arm, but now it's pretty clear that Schlittler is the nastier arm.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and you know, Horton Slider really returned and became this nasty pitch that was, you know, great to see again, and I think the big thing for him was getting that change up back involved the fastball community.

[SPEAKER_00]: So I feel really, really good about Kate Horton being, you know, solid middle rotation on for a long time.

[SPEAKER_00]: But Schlittler could be that number two, as you mentioned, like, and that's a big difference to me, like there's there's a lot not a lot, but there's there's a fan amount of arms that you say, okay, that could be a good middle rotation starter.

[SPEAKER_00]: You see guys that can push up to that two territory, I, there's a little bit more in there, I think and again, I love Kate Horton, I think he's going to be really good for a really long time and is it is huge for.

[SPEAKER_00]: for the the cubs right now, but I and I know just as that team's approach to do they're going to go with the stuff the stuff always prevails Okay, I'm going to see skinning pay like I'll go Shlittler here.

[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, I have no Contest on that so I'm totally cool with Schlittler at six at seven.

[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like we can already Sharpie and Kate Horton The original seventh pick was drum roll please Kate Horton of this Chicago.

[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, there we go.

[SPEAKER_01]: Horton goes in the exact same spot [SPEAKER_00]: There we go.

[SPEAKER_00]: And that just shows you how good of a pick it was by the cubs because he was an underslaught guy by a good bit as well.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, 100%.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, okay.

[SPEAKER_01]: Number eight, the original eighth overall pick was Brooks leave them in a sort of twins.

[SPEAKER_01]: Now, I think a lot of people would say, oh, Brooks lay as a couple of years in the big leagues hundreds fell already.

[SPEAKER_01]: I will tell you.

[SPEAKER_01]: There's nobody else in baseball that I think I've fallen out of love quicker with than Brooks Lee.

[SPEAKER_01]: There's, and I don't mean to dunk on it, but there's no.

[SPEAKER_01]: What's he doing?

[SPEAKER_01]: Great.

[SPEAKER_01]: What's he good at?

[SPEAKER_01]: And it's so tough because we looked at that guy at Cal Poly is like, Oh, this guy is as well rounded as really anybody in the college ranks.

[SPEAKER_01]: But nothing ticked up.

[SPEAKER_01]: You know, the Kyle Tucker conversation, you mentioned is absolutely nauseating.

[SPEAKER_01]: What does this guy do great?

[SPEAKER_01]: He does everything else, he does everything really good.

[SPEAKER_01]: What does he do great?

[SPEAKER_01]: With Brooks Lee, it's, what does he do that's above major league average?

[SPEAKER_01]: It seems like he's major league average or slightly below an absolute league average.

[SPEAKER_00]: What does he do that's average?

[SPEAKER_00]: I think now, powers crap to that territory maybe, but with 16 homers, but.

[SPEAKER_00]: He's aggressive, think about to ball his average, but it's not at the right angle, so it's a 2306 batting average.

[SPEAKER_00]: He's a big ligor, no doubt about it.

[SPEAKER_00]: And things may come along a little bit later.

[SPEAKER_00]: I know injuries, but that was part of the concern around the draft two is some back issues.

[SPEAKER_00]: And I wonder if that's limited some explosion and stuff like that, it's just, for as good as he was in the minor, it's like, it just hasn't totally been there in the bigs.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's got some time, but yeah, it's just, I struggle to envision what the best version [SPEAKER_01]: I have no idea and it extends to the whole twin point because they took somebody with medical concerns when their entire roster has medical concerns and Emmanuel Rodriguez played like 50 games again in 2025 and Walker Jenkins missed a couple of, you know, stints again with injury.

[SPEAKER_01]: As a team, I mean, Roy's Lewis is upset me as much as really anybody in Major League Baseball.

[SPEAKER_01]: Thank God, Buckston was healthy this year, but he was the only one that was healthy this year.

[SPEAKER_01]: Correa was dealing with issues, but Lee is the one where even when he's on the field, I struggled to just see the overall promise and the thing that made him a top 10 pick.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_01]: So he was the original eighth pick.

[SPEAKER_01]: The new eighth pick.

[SPEAKER_01]: We got a couple of interesting ways that we can go here, but I love who you have slotted on the Google Doc right now.

[SPEAKER_01]: This guy got rookie the year votes after two months, man, and he was what a six-round pick initially by the San Diego Padre.

[SPEAKER_01]: He's got a central Michigan.

[SPEAKER_01]: In 55 games was a two-wind player and had an OPS just at her 850.

[SPEAKER_01]: Jacob Marcy, the outfielder for the Miami Marlins.

[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like this [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you know, I love South, you know, I want to do want to shout out South Stewart here because I think we talked about breakout guys.

[SPEAKER_00]: Like, there's a world where South hits 30 plus homers next year.

[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, Marcy has a 760 OPA that was a great year, right?

[SPEAKER_00]: 760 OPS plays good defense and we redraft again and you're probably going to take the 30 plus bombs and high OBP.

[SPEAKER_00]: So like, that's the hard part about these thought exercises, but [SPEAKER_00]: He hasn't hit 30 homers yet, and we know that Marci is going to play a premium defensive position.

[SPEAKER_00]: He's going to give you value in a lot of different ways, tangible swing adjustment that really allowed him to break out last year.

[SPEAKER_00]: And it wasn't just the big league, you know, numbers.

[SPEAKER_00]: He was the minor league numbers were fantastic.

[SPEAKER_00]: And I think the biggest thing for me with with with Marci's, you know, a lot of people were questioning the bat speed and this [SPEAKER_00]: at the Big League level.

[SPEAKER_00]: If Jacob Marcy has a 42% hard hit rate, he's going to be consistently good.

[SPEAKER_00]: And that's what he had.

[SPEAKER_00]: Swing decisions were good.

[SPEAKER_00]: I think he's going to get better.

[SPEAKER_00]: Of the way he goes about his business.

[SPEAKER_00]: He left his well at the Big League level.

[SPEAKER_00]: That's something I'm very interested to see if that can extrapolate.

[SPEAKER_00]: Because historically he didn't do that that well, but get 324 with a 924 OPS against offseason 81 played appearances last year at the big league level.

[SPEAKER_00]: And if you include in the miners, it wasn't as good, but still like a 792 OPS on the season, I'll roll with Marseille.

[SPEAKER_01]: from 180th overall, the San Diego Padre is to 8th overall.

[SPEAKER_01]: This is the new redrafted pick of the Minnesota twins.

[SPEAKER_01]: By the way, I saw a video of Marcy working out at an indoor complex in Michigan, and the bat speed was unbelievable.

[SPEAKER_01]: I'll send you that.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I saw that that well.

[SPEAKER_00]: He's in like the little compact swing drill.

[SPEAKER_01]: Dude, that was crazy.

[SPEAKER_01]: How quick you got from point A to point B.

[SPEAKER_00]: His hands work really well, man.

[SPEAKER_00]: And now he's found out how to maximize that and leverage that.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so cool, man, and he's changed his set up.

[SPEAKER_01]: I just had a conversation with him.

[SPEAKER_01]: He said he's working on posture and everything like that.

[SPEAKER_01]: So it's really cool to see, you know, Marcy continued to work and try and grow beyond this.

[SPEAKER_01]: Number nine, overall, the original pick was Gavin Cross of the Kansas City Royals.

[SPEAKER_01]: Loud pop at Virginia Tech, but it seems like, I guess the bat to ball skills were the thing that kind of did him in when he got the pro ball.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he's another one where I'll use the term tweenor.

[SPEAKER_00]: Like, that's a ball wasn't quite as good as we thought, but it was fine.

[SPEAKER_00]: And power wasn't quite as good as we thought, but it was fine.

[SPEAKER_00]: And then like, you approach isn't good.

[SPEAKER_00]: And there's not a ton of value beyond that.

[SPEAKER_00]: And it's like, okay, well, how does this all come together here?

[SPEAKER_00]: There was a little bit more whiff in the earlier years too of his pro career, but I think your approach had been a very limiting, [SPEAKER_00]: component and especially recognizing spin.

[SPEAKER_00]: I still think you could be a bulk-platoon guy.

[SPEAKER_00]: You know, it's a guy that could potentially just take on varieties, but it's just, it's been kind of this tween or profile for cross.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, is this where you go sell Stuart?

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think, I mean, I'm curious what you think, right?

[SPEAKER_00]: We've got a delater and we've got Jonah Tongue and we've got Robbie Snelling and Jet Williams and even a Dylan Beavers.

[SPEAKER_00]: But I think South Stewart is gonna hit 30 plus homers next year.

[SPEAKER_00]: And so, if he does that, I feel like that's gonna be more valuable than any of these other guys now.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, 100%.

[SPEAKER_01]: This guy in his age 21 season, I've granted 80 games of Chattanooga, 38 games in the Louisville, but in just about 135 games between the minor leagues and the big leagues in 25, hit 25 homers.

[SPEAKER_01]: And he wasn't playing at a hit or friendly ballpark as his home ballpark like great American ballpark is he hit five homers and 18 games in his big league sample.

[SPEAKER_01]: Chattanooga's not an easy place to hit at all.

[SPEAKER_01]: Louisville's a pretty easy place to hit, but again, he was only there for about a month and a half.

[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, 25 homers is a 21 year old.

[SPEAKER_01]: In fewer than a full major league sample, I'm with you that he could possibly hit 30 and you have to take the idea of this guy hitting 30 and OPS and over 800 as a 22 year old, these 22 for the entire year, you have to take that over the rest.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and then just referencing our top 100, like that this would be following the logic of the top 100 marginally at mind you marginally, you know, two spots ahead of of, you know, Robby snelling, but it does follow the logic of.

[SPEAKER_00]: the top 100, which is essentially the same fact exercise in a lot of ways.

[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, I think you got to take the bat there who if he had struggled at the Big League level, maybe it was a little bit different, but he also in the second half cut down that ground ball rate significantly, which we talked about a lot on the show, where he clearly just found the field to elevate it way more consistently.

[SPEAKER_00]: And then that's where we saw these nuclear results the rest of the year, and it's like, okay.

[SPEAKER_00]: you see the angles finally get to where you want them to get and then you see him go nuclear and you know I think I think that part makes it really exciting like 34% ground ball rate over his final 50 games and he had a 994 OPS and that's including the big league stand.

[SPEAKER_00]: That's that's crazy stuff.

[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm a huge south end and I think he's I think he's going to be a big X factor for pushing this red team to you know like that next that next height potentially next year.

[SPEAKER_01]: realizing that we're already at 37 minutes.

[SPEAKER_01]: This is the first time in a little bit that we've done this.

[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to make this a two partner.

[SPEAKER_01]: So we're going to get through pick 15 here and then we're going to go 16 to 30 in episode two, which what are we thinking later this week or early next week right before Christmas.

[SPEAKER_00]: Probably early next week right before Christmas, but you know, this is something we want to do more of anyways is more the two parts stuff again because I can set a giving you an hour 30 episode like why not give you two hour long episodes and give you more frequent episodes.

[SPEAKER_00]: So again, we're always open to feedback on that front, but it is one of the we could rush through the back end or like.

[SPEAKER_00]: have some fun and really get into Troy Malton versus Victor Scott the second.

[SPEAKER_00]: So like I want it, which is what I want to do right before Christmas.

[SPEAKER_00]: So we will save, we will save the back half for later.

[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to whisper into the microphone.

[SPEAKER_01]: I'm team Victor Scott there and pretty family team Victor Scott.

[SPEAKER_00]: I got a week to get my argument together then.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, perfect.

[SPEAKER_01]: I've got a week to get mine ready then.

[SPEAKER_01]: Um, so we'll get through again 15 here and we'll go to number 10.

[SPEAKER_01]: The original tent overall picked by Colorado was Gabriel Hughes at a Gonzaga and this like I get in real time.

[SPEAKER_01]: I think about my live reaction to that that picked me to a lot of sense because you think your slider guy in a good college picture that went to Colorado.

[SPEAKER_01]: I had no problem with that pick.

[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not, I'm not quitting him yet, either.

[SPEAKER_00]: I look at new, new front office.

[SPEAKER_00]: I think better player development infrastructure on the way.

[SPEAKER_00]: Hughes didn't have a bad year last year either.

[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, he had to throw in Triple A, Albuquerque.

[SPEAKER_00]: So just, that's where you'd almost throw away the surface, you know, stats.

[SPEAKER_00]: And you look at the underlying.

[SPEAKER_00]: The sinkers are good pitch like I understand I got hit like decently hard from like a surface level standpoint, but high chase high ground ball.

[SPEAKER_00]: The curve ball came along a little bit I don't see why he can't be a back end, you know, especially it cores being number four or five ground ball pitcher for you and honestly like.

[SPEAKER_00]: I know there's other players that you definitely could have taken.

[SPEAKER_00]: If if the Rocky's draft in arm and he gets up to the big leagues and he pitches several years for them at the big league level and doesn't suck like absolutely suck for the relative to what other pitchers do it course.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm going to just say good pick.

[SPEAKER_00]: That's fine.

[SPEAKER_00]: But I am really excited to see what this new front office does from a philosophy standpoint and also [SPEAKER_00]: with what they do with like they're they're they're current guys to potentially maximize them because he says talent he's also been very hurt and has been banged up so i'm not quitting him yet can i ask you a question for the definition purposes [SPEAKER_01]: Doleander was 98 innings at a six five ERA.

[SPEAKER_01]: Is that suck?

[SPEAKER_01]: That was it.

[SPEAKER_00]: That was suck because he was good on the road.

[SPEAKER_01]: He was really good on the road.

[SPEAKER_00]: It was so environment like picture.

[SPEAKER_00]: Like if you just wanted to spin orientation and you look who he is, I don't think you take the best arm you can.

[SPEAKER_00]: That guy was never going to work at course.

[SPEAKER_00]: So.

[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, six, five is going to be in the suck territory, unfortunately, but he's going to figure it out.

[SPEAKER_00]: He's too good on the road.

[SPEAKER_01]: New pick here at Tent overall.

[SPEAKER_01]: You mentioned some of the cast of characters that could go here.

[SPEAKER_01]: Williams, Delater, Tong, it's snowing.

[SPEAKER_01]: I know this guy has a bad year in the rear view in 24, but I think Eileen's smelling at this point because he gave us minor league pitcher the year and his first four-year a minor league baseball.

[SPEAKER_01]: And then we saw it again, new and improved in 2025.

[SPEAKER_01]: And after the All Star Break, I understand that Tang, when you look at the entire year sample, was the best pitcher in minor league baseball last year, he led by a country mile in punch outs, he led any R.A.

[SPEAKER_01]: I think too.

[SPEAKER_01]: After the All-Sharbrek and I know Tong had a couple of starts and the big leagues under his belt at that point, Robbie Snelly was the best pitcher in minor league baseball and it was not close.

[SPEAKER_01]: No, give me Snelly.

[SPEAKER_00]: I'm with you to the point now where I've talked to some people at other teams, right?

[SPEAKER_00]: Some marlins are, they're gonna say I love them both, right?

[SPEAKER_00]: Like, any of my go, we like White's upside, but we feel good about Snelly for, [SPEAKER_00]: You're never going to get like the who do you like more clear cut answer, like, you know, and I get it talking to other teams, I think, you know, it's it's in the eye of the beholder, but I was surprised how often I'd actually gotten like, I think I take snowing over white.

[SPEAKER_00]: Um, and I get it because we talked about it like how much better the fast ball got if Robbie snowing as a fast ball that opponents hit 160 against Robbie snowing is going to be really good for a long time and he had never had a fast ball that opponents at 160 against until this last year 27% in zone way for a 72% strike rate like it's it's all come together for him.

[SPEAKER_00]: So.

[SPEAKER_00]: And by the way, he's not even 22 to Maro, so happy early birthday to Robbie Snelling.

[SPEAKER_00]: Opponents had a 596 OPS against him in his final 10 appearances.

[SPEAKER_00]: I actually excuse me, 564 OPS against him in his final 10 starts.

[SPEAKER_00]: This guy is really putting it all together.

[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think you should make another start in the minor leagues.

[SPEAKER_00]: By the way, I know the [SPEAKER_00]: They think snowing is, there's a really strong case.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's the best left-hand pitching prospect in baseball because of how many strikes he throws now.

[SPEAKER_00]: All right, well, you always do the strikes, but how good the stuff is with the strikes, because I think the argument for white had always been, well, yeah, but look at the stuff, and I get it.

[SPEAKER_00]: But now that snowing has some stuff too, it's not Thomas white stuff, but if it's 60% of Thomas white stuff with 200% of the command, a lot of teams may sign up for that.

[SPEAKER_00]: I think, I think snowing is a guy that's going to hit the ground running at the big level too.

[SPEAKER_00]: I still wonder what the ceiling is.

[SPEAKER_00]: But instead of saying, oh, you're, you know, you're praying for middle rotation.

[SPEAKER_00]: I think he's got a good shot at middle rotation now.

[SPEAKER_00]: Now you're, you're, you're praying for maybe a, a two and I don't think that's crazy.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, by the way, after the break, I said best picture and moderately baseball by a wide margin, a 119 ERA, and it was striking out the world.

[SPEAKER_01]: So this guy gave you a 12 to 13 start sample of a 1.19 ERA.

[SPEAKER_01]: I couldn't get the leaderboard that quickly in terms of ERA, there might have been a guy with a 115, but in terms of the top prospects, we'll do a trip too.

[SPEAKER_01]: doing it in AAA.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

[SPEAKER_01]: He leveled up when he got to AAA and he was on this stretch of oh another seven innings a two-hit shutout ball for Robbie Snelling.

[SPEAKER_01]: Every six day it was to enjoy to just check in and see what Snelling was doing, especially when he was working in tandem with white and you're right.

[SPEAKER_01]: It's like [SPEAKER_01]: Pick your favorite kid.

[SPEAKER_01]: You won't.

[SPEAKER_01]: They're very different.

[SPEAKER_01]: But damn it feels like snowing is safer.

[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, I love that pick is snowing at 10.

[SPEAKER_01]: So we'll go with that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, 11.

[SPEAKER_01]: Number 11 originally was Kevin Pirrata by the New York Mets.

[SPEAKER_01]: A lot of problems there.

[SPEAKER_01]: I think you had a problem with this pick and real time.

[SPEAKER_01]: If I'm a stake-in, or did you like it real time?

[SPEAKER_00]: Kevin Pirrata?

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_00]: Never understood that one.

[SPEAKER_00]: I can't remember.

[SPEAKER_01]: You never understood it.

[SPEAKER_01]: Why did you never understand it?

[SPEAKER_00]: Like the offensive side of things, I get it.

[SPEAKER_00]: But he was just never very good defensively.

[SPEAKER_00]: I thought there was.

[SPEAKER_00]: approach wise was it was never really great and the EV's another guy were like you look at the college data like the EV's were not really there.

[SPEAKER_00]: So it was a guy that you taken from metal to wood and you say it might be harder to produce the same way and then you want to wear else you're going to get value behind the dish and yeah that was it was a guy that I felt like we just never really had you know as high up on on our lists.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so Pirata went 10th originally.

[SPEAKER_01]: Now, Tong DeLotter Jet Williams, Dylan Beaver's.

[SPEAKER_01]: Where do you sit?

[SPEAKER_00]: So if the Met offered Jonah Tong for Chase DeLotter, like are the guardians taking that, I don't know.

[SPEAKER_00]: Like I try to value Chase DeLotter is so hard because then we see him in a playoff game and like, he, he's like, look good.

[SPEAKER_00]: six every time in two platforms or six A.V.s.

[SPEAKER_00]: Well, like, and like, oh, there he is again.

[SPEAKER_00]: And he's, by the way, running out there in, in, in, in, in, in, center field, like here's one tongue for beavers.

[SPEAKER_01]: What does Baltimore say?

[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I think Baltimore takes that.

[SPEAKER_01]: You think Baltimore says yes?

[SPEAKER_00]: I think Baltimore takes that.

[SPEAKER_01]: How much of that is situational, though?

[SPEAKER_00]: I know, that's the thing is it's very situational.

[SPEAKER_00]: I still, I would lean to the upside of tongue.

[SPEAKER_00]: Um, over, over beef.

[SPEAKER_00]: I just, I still love, I still love to water.

[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I really do believe in the water.

[SPEAKER_00]: And if you go, if you reference to the top 100 here, it would, it, we would have, like, we had song three spots behind the water.

[SPEAKER_00]: So, for what that's worth.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's it's injury, you know, concern, obviously, but if it works for Deloader, he's got to play all three outfield spots, definitely play a good corner and can hit for average power.

[SPEAKER_00]: I think I'm just rolling the dice and helping because you're still rolling the dice on song.

[SPEAKER_00]: Like, yes, he's one of the best minor league pitchers we saw, but like we also saw why he still needs to do more and figure out more to succeed at the big league level.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, a hundred percent.

[SPEAKER_01]: So I think that I will default to the top 100.

[SPEAKER_01]: So let's go chase the lottery here.

[SPEAKER_01]: Tong like it's funny if you were to look at McClain's Sprout Tong.

[SPEAKER_01]: In any trade conversation, I probably feel better if I'm Stearns moving Tongue that I do Sprote because I feel like Sprote is a little bit more plug-in play, get out to the major league level right now for you.

[SPEAKER_01]: Obviously, Stearns is always gonna have the long-term vision in mind, but it does feel like Sprote offers a way higher floor than Tongue.

[SPEAKER_01]: Because if Tongue doesn't have the change of one day, he's a one-trick punk, at least has options three and four.

[SPEAKER_00]: And he's got to find your way to locate those breaking balls, too.

[SPEAKER_00]: Like otherwise, you know, there's, there's some relief risk there.

[SPEAKER_00]: And that's always kind of been my slight hesitation with Tongue, but then you'll get the numbers and it's like, there was no better one, two punch, a fast bond change up in the minor leagues.

[SPEAKER_00]: It wasn't even close.

[SPEAKER_00]: Like, nobody had a better two-page combination.

[SPEAKER_00]: So that's where it becomes difficult.

[SPEAKER_00]: But if hitters, you know, hitters are, [SPEAKER_00]: catch and high fast balls as well as ever at the big league level and they can train for that and prepare for that.

[SPEAKER_00]: So, Tong becomes a very interesting conversation there, but it's a lot of you play 34 games in Triple A last year once he was healthy and it was an 860 OPS.

[SPEAKER_00]: Like, it's at the point where there's zero question about the ability and it's just all about the health.

[SPEAKER_00]: The fact that, you know, you look good enough and the guardians felt good enough to put them in a playoff environment like that.

[SPEAKER_00]: I think is a good sign and healthy offseason for them.

[SPEAKER_00]: And we'll see what happens from there.

[SPEAKER_00]: So I like to do a lot of pic because that's one that could end up, you know, altering, you know, your franchise again a little bit more than I think a song would.

[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, 12th pick originally for Detroit.

[SPEAKER_01]: It was J.C.

Young at a Texas Tech.

[SPEAKER_01]: It's not a bad pick.

[SPEAKER_01]: Young, he just hasn't proven to be a good Major League player.

[SPEAKER_01]: He's a Major League baseball player.

[SPEAKER_01]: There's no doubt about it.

[SPEAKER_01]: The question is, what's your level of impact?

[SPEAKER_01]: And it's probably not high enough here.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, you know, you added some some pop, and I think that helped, but another kind of tweener guy, right, where the hit tools fringy, the power was average.

[SPEAKER_00]: Now it's above average in the raw territory.

[SPEAKER_00]: So now we start to elevate it more to the pool side.

[SPEAKER_00]: And now you can see that above average power.

[SPEAKER_00]: Now that he's showing that above average power, I think that's where you can see, you know, that that potential book, what's here in guy can play some second can play some third, but doesn't give you a ton of value with the glove either.

[SPEAKER_00]: Big bigger, big big bat, I think guy that could be a second division regular and like, you know, that's another guy where the nationals are cooking right now.

[SPEAKER_00]: If you can make a train, like, just be able to drop them in there where you can play every day, like, that's the kind of player that he is right now.

[SPEAKER_00]: And then those guys sometimes elevate themselves in that environment, then to become a better player.

[SPEAKER_00]: But, you know, I think he's more that second division regular.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that makes a lot of sense.

[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so instead of Jason, do you go Tong here or does it extend to it Tong Beaver's Jet Williams conversation?

[SPEAKER_00]: Even have, you know, we even have Dalton rushing still in the conversation there.

[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I don't want to be too harsh on his big league debut because I think he's still very, you know, a very good player that could be a key piece for a while for a lot of different teams.

[SPEAKER_00]: But, [SPEAKER_00]: I think, do you have to be the sober couple last year?

[SPEAKER_01]: Sorry, it's great.

[SPEAKER_01]: Do you have tongue over jet in the top 100?

[SPEAKER_01]: I do.

[SPEAKER_01]: So I think we have to go, buy enough to where I think we have to go, Tom.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, fair.

[SPEAKER_01]: I think I default to bevers.

[SPEAKER_01]: And again, like it's situationally based, to where, [SPEAKER_01]: It's funny, so many people forgot about Heston cursed ads existence.

[SPEAKER_01]: Heston cursed ads still is around in Baltimore.

[SPEAKER_01]: Beavers is better than Heston cursed ad at this point.

[SPEAKER_01]: But if Heston cursed ad didn't exist and if Couser was not the level of player that he is and they didn't trade for Taylor Ward.

[SPEAKER_01]: how much are we valuing Dylan Beaver's?

[SPEAKER_01]: And if Enrique Bradfield didn't exist, how much are we valuing Dylan Beaver's?

[SPEAKER_01]: I think if you wipe the slate clean with what Beaver's just gave you at the majorly level, I would lean Beaver's over talk.

[SPEAKER_00]: That's fair.

[SPEAKER_00]: That's fair.

[SPEAKER_00]: What was Beaver's final big league numbers here that we got?

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, 24 year old Dylan Beaver's and 35 games had a 775 OPS with 10 extra base hits and the K rate was 25% but he walked 19% of the time.

[SPEAKER_01]: He walked 26 times and 35 games.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that part is impressive.

[SPEAKER_00]: The swing decisions are good.

[SPEAKER_00]: The defense is good.

[SPEAKER_00]: The speed is good.

[SPEAKER_00]: We do have Tom 30, they're 25 spots higher on the top 100 for what that's worth.

[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no, that's worth a lot.

[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

[SPEAKER_00]: We'll go, Tom.

[SPEAKER_00]: But then I think, I think, Beavers next.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so we went to Latter than we went to Hong and now bevers at 13 and the original 13th overall pick was that neto we don't need to look happy and he went to pick the aim to take great pick by the halosman, but yeah, I do like beavers not falling any further than this with what he did at the major.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, what he did and he hit lefties, which no one thought he could I still don't know if he's going to do that but the fact that he showed that he could like survive.

[SPEAKER_00]: helps.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_00]: And it was a leap across the board.

[SPEAKER_00]: We talked about like he's like the harsh it's like the Walmart Kyle Tucker where like he does every it's like he does everything pretty good like or everything like a little bit better than okay.

[SPEAKER_00]: Which if you do everything a little bit better than okay you're a good baseball player.

[SPEAKER_00]: That's why like if you do everything above average you're freaking Kyle Tucker.

[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah he's going to be a good player for a while.

[SPEAKER_01]: So we have a couple of options here at 14 and I just want to get out of the way saying I would probably take rushing over jet waves.

[SPEAKER_01]: I would I would the original 14th pick was jet Williams, who do we just keep in there or do we drop them by one spot?

[SPEAKER_00]: No, you get dropped one spot.

[SPEAKER_00]: Now it's a bad pick in our eyes.

[SPEAKER_00]: You hear that?

[SPEAKER_00]: That's fans.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's a bad pick.

[SPEAKER_00]: Now, Jeff was a good pick and it's just when you have to account for the guys in the third and fourth round that came out of nowhere.

[SPEAKER_00]: They don't know big leagueers.

[SPEAKER_00]: All things considered if there's a redraft and your guy gets drafted within five to ten picks of where he was previously drafted.

[SPEAKER_00]: Good pick.

[SPEAKER_00]: Pretty damn good pick.

[SPEAKER_00]: That said, don't.

[SPEAKER_00]: Russians, big league numbers are so unfair.

[SPEAKER_00]: He'd have to go get Abner or eBay after sitting for three days.

[SPEAKER_00]: Like, we want to get Will Smith a break since we're up 15.

[SPEAKER_00]: Go out there.

[SPEAKER_00]: Don't even though you're probably in your shorts right now.

[SPEAKER_01]: Like, hey, Mr.

Rager is sick.

[SPEAKER_00]: Mr.

Rager is sick.

[SPEAKER_00]: Please trade him.

[SPEAKER_00]: We just had a great article go out on just baseball.com.

[SPEAKER_00]: And I want to make sure I properly, yeah, highlight the writer and credit the writer who put it together.

[SPEAKER_00]: Here's a bunch of teams of Dalton rushing would be like a perfect fit for and there's a lot of them.

[SPEAKER_00]: If you play that guy every day, the defense has come along to the point where I think you could be solid defensively.

[SPEAKER_00]: The approach is the power is is I think plus gain power potential here.

[SPEAKER_00]: There's a lot of similarities to what we saw with Michael Bush, but a guy that can play some catchers well.

[SPEAKER_00]: Give me rushing.

[SPEAKER_01]: Cool.

[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

[SPEAKER_01]: So we go rushing at 14, then the last pick on part one is 15, 15, the original pick is San Diego was Dylan Lesco.

[SPEAKER_01]: It was a tough pick and then it was a great pick and then it was a tough pick and we've settled on tough pick.

[SPEAKER_01]: Again, he was the headliner and the Jason Adam return and that was a visceral reaction to that trade it was I how can you give up Dylan Lesco for Jason Adam a set up guy.

[SPEAKER_01]: Well, Adam's one of the better set up guys in Major League Baseball, hoping for a speedy recovery with that leg.

[SPEAKER_01]: Let's go.

[SPEAKER_01]: It just hasn't clicked for him on the heels of Tommy John surgery.

[SPEAKER_01]: He was not anywhere close to the strike.

[SPEAKER_01]: So when he came back and I think we were just waiting and waiting and waiting until he felt 100% even now, it just hasn't looked right.

[SPEAKER_00]: No, no, and it's it's tanks and I wonder how much of that is just like now just trying so hard to throw strikes here almost to getting away from who you were and, you know, almost over thinking every throw and great guy had a chance to talk to him a couple years ago and spring training and mostly route for him so I hope you put together you can't teach that change up not change up his nasty so I'm hoping less cooking can, you know, get things going this common season.

[SPEAKER_00]: channel or Simpson, I think this is where you do need to go with chat though, right?

[SPEAKER_01]: I think so.

[SPEAKER_00]: So it's not going to say healthy.

[SPEAKER_00]: Like he keeps growing.

[SPEAKER_00]: He's seven feet tall now almost.

[SPEAKER_00]: He's six foot 11.

[SPEAKER_01]: Shults.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

[SPEAKER_00]: Shults.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_00]: No, not yet.

[SPEAKER_00]: And the jet's a foot and a half shorter.

[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

[SPEAKER_01]: Shults also, it was really not good in Charlotte.

[SPEAKER_01]: And I think that a lot of people would immediately look at that and say, oh, well, Charlotte's a bandbox.

[SPEAKER_01]: Anyways, it's fine.

[SPEAKER_01]: It's really not fine.

[SPEAKER_01]: When you're supposed to be the best left-handed picture in minor league.

[SPEAKER_00]: And I think it was a lot of health.

[SPEAKER_00]: I think it was a lot of health issues.

[SPEAKER_00]: Like, like, me, things bothering him.

[SPEAKER_00]: Like, yeah, I didn't know there was some harm.

[SPEAKER_00]: Like, ages wasn't himself.

[SPEAKER_00]: So I agree.

[SPEAKER_00]: Like, it just has to be better than that.

[SPEAKER_00]: If you're going to take him over a bat that performed this past year and is a great runner and is going to run into his homers because of his angles and is, you know, even if he's not a great defender, can get by in center, can get by at second.

[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, could play short in a pinch.

[SPEAKER_00]: I think you got to go a jet here.

[SPEAKER_01]: The other one is Alex Freeland, do we dock Freeland for his really rough 29 games at the major league level?

[SPEAKER_00]: I think he's getting over docked to because it's an unenviable situation, do you have to go do what prospects to a lot of times in Los Angeles?

[SPEAKER_00]: But, and that could actually work both ways with the angels and the Dodgers.

[SPEAKER_00]: I think a lot of people end up getting up to the big leagues, so in terms of development.

[SPEAKER_00]: I don't, I think freeland deserves a big part of the conversation here.

[SPEAKER_00]: I just think jet skill set is more likely to translate, where I was like, freeland's gonna have to run into some power and find a way to be productive that way.

[SPEAKER_00]: And like, if he's not, it's really hard to impact the game.

[SPEAKER_00]: In other ways, where it's jet, he's gonna walk, he's gonna have the speed, he's gonna be able to plug in different premium spots too.

[SPEAKER_00]: So like, as much as I love that freeland's shorts up in a pretty good one, I think I go with the dynamic aspect of jet Williams.

[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, cool.

[SPEAKER_01]: So we go jet at 15 real quick recap of part one original pick at number one over all was holiday new pick is Roman Anthony original two drew Jones new to Zach netto original three come our rocker new three Drake Baldwin original four to Mar Johnson new four Jacob is a Rowski original five Elijah green new five Jackson holiday.

[SPEAKER_01]: original six Jacob Barry, new six cam Schlittler original seven K.

Horton, new seven K.

Horton original eight was Brooks lead him in a soda, new eight Jacob Marcy original nine was Gavin Cross, new nine is South Stewart original 10 was Gabriel Hughes, new 10 Robby Snelling original 11 Kevin Parada, new 11 Chase Delater.

[SPEAKER_01]: Original 12, J.

C.

Young, New 12, Jonah Tong, original 13 Zach Natto, great pit parry Monocie and New 12 was, uh, a new 13 was Dylan Beavers.

[SPEAKER_01]: Original 14 was Jet Williams, new 14 Dalton, rushing, and original 15 was Dylan Lesco, new 15 was Jet Williams.

[SPEAKER_00]: I love it.

[SPEAKER_00]: I love it.

[SPEAKER_00]: I'm excited for part two.

[SPEAKER_00]: We got a lot more fun stuff on the way, but you have part two of this included in that.

[SPEAKER_00]: We also got to talk the Luis Parallis trade.

[SPEAKER_00]: We still got to break that down on the next episode.

[SPEAKER_00]: So we'll be doing that as well, playing a little bit of catch up on those on those fronts as well.

[SPEAKER_00]: But as always, thank you for listening.

[SPEAKER_00]: But forward to talking prospects with you early next week.

[SPEAKER_00]: Have a great weekend.