Welcome to the prospect Spot.

Welcome to the Prospects Live Dynasty Podcast, Episode number eighty six.

It is Wednesday, October first.

It is October guys.

I cannot believe this, twenty twenty five.

I'm your host, Greg ku Camp, director of Dynasty Content for Prospects Live, joined tonight by two members of my Dynasty team.

First hailing from Toronto, Ontario, Raj Meta, Raj, how you doing doing well?

Good to have you this time.

It's better.

The new mic sounds fantastic.

I'm glad you grabbed it.

And hailing from middle West Tennessee, small town Tennessee, somewhere in Tennessee.

Drew Wheeler, Whoop what up?

Y'all?

That's the worst in throw I've ever given.

Whoop, whoop?

What up?

Y'all?

Okay, yeah, put that one in the record books.

Drew is on one today.

Glad to be here with you, Greg and Raj.

It's a pleasure to be on the airwaves with you for the first time.

I'm excited to excited to cut it up with you.

My friend got to get into it.

Good to have you both on here on this episode.

Raj, Drew and myself.

We'll be discussing the dynasty outlook for the White Sox and Rockies.

We're going to be going through a series of every major league team, all thirty MLB teams, and we're going to talk about the dynasty out looks, the prospects the major league players.

Digging in deep.

We have article series running our twenty twenty eight roster series outlook, and then our dynasty out looks.

These guys are writing like crazy, up to sixty dynasty outlooks for each team.

Every relevant player in their system will be written up, so all of your dynasty information is available this offseason that prospects live.

Before we get there, guys, I wanted to talk about the playoffs.

The playoffs are upon us.

We are in the wild Card round and it's been very interesting, to say the least.

Currently recording on Wednesday evening, where these are game twos that are occurring today in these best of three wildcard series, and so far, no one's been eliminated, no sweeps in any of these series yet.

Currently the Dodgers lead to the Reds Tree get see in the sixth inning of their Game two.

But let's get into it, guys.

Let's talk about some of these series.

First, we'll start with the Tigers and Guardians.

They have split the first two games.

These games are being played in Cleveland because Cleveland won the division.

As crazy as that sounds, they were down about fifteen games in the middle of August and they roared all the way back to take over the Tigers, and they earned this home field advantage in this series.

Drew Raj, give me your thoughts on this series so far.

Go ahead, Rug.

I'm to be honest, like I haven't really like watched it too closely.

But the first game was just like all Schooble and Tigers went to two to one August just because like it's it like school was pitching so just hard to score off him.

Fourteen strikeouts in seven point two innings.

But then in Game two, which was earlier today, they obviously can't use Scooble all three games, so they ended up losing six to one.

And I'm not really sure how I were like which way it'll go for Game B because I feel like, let me check the pitching matches actually, so it's clarity versus Sikoni.

Hmmm.

Like I feel like since the Guardians the division, there's sort of like maybe the favorites like going in a way because like day one, the season series day, well obvious one division day, you're hot coming into the playoffs.

But I really don't know.

It's like a toss up for me.

What do you What do you think, Drew?

Where do you see this going?

Obviously Raj mentioned schoogle absolute dominance.

Think he had twenty six whiffs in that and that outing just just just incredibly average ninety nine point one on his fastball, which is the highest average he's ever had in UH in a game period ever.

He was amped.

Yeah, crazy man stuff from Schooble.

It is a shame he's not a cyborg because I think if he could pitch every game, boy the Tigers would have, they'd be even more of a Brett.

I suppose today's game, I did got to have to shout out guys.

It's just like we drew it up.

George Valeria stepping into the spotlight with a humongous jack, It's just like we drew it up.

Who could ask for more in that first inning with a thousand batters coming up seventh, like four hundred and eleven feet home run, I'm looking for the exit velocity one oh six point six off the bat for Valeria insanity.

Awesome to see him playing blood alone, playing extremely well.

I'm with Raj.

I think that the Guardians have more of a mental edge than we might be assigning to them, just kind of in our heads, because consider the Tigers have been one of those teams of destiny, that kind of big powerhouse team all season long, and now they have fallen apart.

We have seen them at the tippy top and at the bottom.

The fact that they were there just recently at the bottom, at that pit of despair, that's terrible losing stretch.

I think the Guardians have a little bit more hope than you may think from I guess watching this all season long and knowing the Tigers as this powerhouse Greg.

So yes, I'm with Raj.

I think that the Guardians have more of an edge.

With the Guardians on top here.

I think the Guardians are going to take this one.

I think really, no matter who wins it, they're kind of running into a bit of a saul in Seattle.

But I do I do like the Guardians to come out tomorrow, and I don't know that it's necessarily going to be Slaye Chacni doing the work, but I think he will be the recipient of some strong offense.

Yeah, as we've seen in recent years, it's already started.

The starting pitchers do not last very long unless they're absolutely dominating.

We may see a two to three innings start and then just a bullpen game from there on.

And we know the Guardians have the guns back there to be able to make that happen.

I think if they can get a lead early, I think it might be lights out for the Tigers.

The bats just not have been have not been good for them at all in the second half.

Really, they've just kind of faded and the pitching has kind of carried them into the playoffs, and yeah, in a three games series, anything can happen.

Obviously, it will be interesting to see who comes out of this wild Color Carb Central matchup.

I don't think either pitcher really gives a strong advantage to either team.

And look at the Guardians, they've got chased the latter starting in center field for them.

I'm unbelievable.

We would not have predicted that.

Well, maybe we would have predicted that at the start of the year that he'd be starting for them in the playoffs, but not the way it's happened.

Definitely not the way it's happened, making his major league debut today and drawing a walk and making a nice play in the outfield as well, go ahead rush.

In the Guardians until I was probably going to get a big hit in Game B.

Yeah, I would not put that past them at all.

Okay, let's move on to the Padres and Cubs.

Guys.

They have also split their first two games, the Padres winning three to nothing in Game two, pretty much a bullpen game.

Dylan Ceas picked pitched looks like three and two thirds innings, and then it was Morihone, Mason Miller, Robert Suarez the rest of the way.

Lots of strikes, lots of whiffs, not a lot of hits.

This is the way this Padres team is built.

If they get a lead, they are very difficult to come back against.

The Cubs have a very to me, they have one of the better well rounded teams, really good offense, solid pitching, not dominant pitching to any means.

What are your thoughts on this series?

We'll start with you, Drew this time.

Thank you.

I appreciate that interesting enough.

Like you said, it's a lot of dominant pitching for the Padres.

A lot of people have talked kind of ad nauseam about how if you let the Padres get deep enough, if their starter gets deep enough, then it's just handing over to one big bad after another.

The evil group is big bad, big bad, big bad dragon big bad.

So really there is no respite for our heroes on whatever team is playing the Padres.

Looking at swings and misses on the day, that's a stat that I really like.

For today's game again, that's October one for you all at home, Dylan sees fifteen swings and misses, but then on top of that you had another eleven from the bullpens cerebra of Mason Miller, Adrian Morion, and Bob Suarez.

Mason Miller continues to be one of the most I guess plug plug and play acquisitions at the trade deadline for the Padres.

Manny Machado also cranked Homer over four hundred feet today.

That's what you got to see from the Padres.

So obviously, going into tomorrow's kind of all or nothing day, I think that the Padres made a statement win today over the Cubbies.

The pitching matchup for Game three is Darvish versus Tayone.

So again, I think we're gonna see a lot of bullpen action in this game.

And I would doubt any of these pictures would go even five innings in this game.

That matchup would have rocked in like twenty fifteen.

Yeah, you're right about that, Roger.

Anything to add about this series, the Andre's and the Cubs.

I'm not sure how I feel about the Cubs pitching.

Like I I know, like they've done well these two games, but it just like feels a bit shaky, well maybe not shakey isn't the right word.

But like Tyane, I like he's good, but he's not like him and auga good, you know what I mean.

Like he's just sort of like a guy and a Darvish.

I get that he has be good this year, but he has a track record.

And also that bullpen is elite.

Yeah, like not even like today they only use more at home Mason Miller Roberts fars So they have Istrada arrested, they have i't know.

Eestrada.

I believe David Morgan also is an ebulpin who I really like just has a crazy view.

Look, I believe you can touch one hundred.

Yeah.

They They've got a whole parade of guys that come out of that bullpen that can they can lock down an offense.

I think I think we didn't touch on either.

I mean electric all year, So it's dope they called him up.

No, it's okay.

I was going to say that.

I think the Cubs loss of Kate Wharton I think really hurts in this instance.

I think he would have been he would have been the starter in this game, but he's injured right now currently and possibly coming back if the Cubs can move on, but he will not be.

He's not on the roster for for this three game series, so unfortunate for them they lost him because he had pitched really, really well down the stretch for them.

So again, I think this is a flip a coin thing, and I think whichever team maybe gets the lead deeper in the game has a really good shot to to move on.

For me, I think the Potters probably take it just because if they take a lead, I feel like they're more better suited to hold it.

For the Cubs, they have like a few guys in your bullpen, but it's it's a lot of They're not as Elie as the guys on the Padres to follow up.

On what Roger said just a second ago, and then just then, I think if and I don't mean to put words in your mouth behind it means roj you just you know, tell me to shut up or whatever.

I think I would have said when you were describing the Cubs starters.

Lackluster is the word I would have come up with, just because, like you said, man, tyane is fine.

Like if tyone is your five?

Man, what a rotation you guys are cooking with?

Tyone is your three?

Like in a do or Die three, I'm sweating bullets.

On that note, I also agree with what rog said, Greg I think I'm I think we're all simpatico here.

I think it's the Padres game to lose, which is a massive bummer because Playoff Baseball says Azuki has been such a treat, Like what a blessing it is to see this in the year of our Lord twenty five.

Now, the one thing I will say is this is an afternoon game at Wrigley, So afternoon games at Wrigley can sometimes get a little bit crazy.

Now, the last two games have also been in the afternoon, and so that's not to say, but we've seen some some wind shifts and things like that, and some balls fly out of the park, and I think the Cubs lineup is a little bit more suited to hit some home runs.

So if we see some weather, I think the Cubs might have an advantage in that respect.

So we'll have to see how that goes.

By the time this podcast is released, that game will be over.

We're gonna release this on Friday, so we'll see.

We'll see if our predictions are correct on this.

Man, I can't believe the Cubs won it.

Man, the Padres really pulled it out.

Just use whicheveryone is true.

Okay, all right, we'll move on.

Wow, I can't believe it ended in tie.

I forgot that.

Yeah, we use use Rogers.

That's the best one.

They're both gonna go on.

It's gonna be a three way game, insane.

Yeah, okay, we'll move on to the Yankees and Red Sox, who are now tied at one.

They will have their Game three occur on Thursday as well.

Yeah, the Red Sox.

What more can you say about it?

Guys?

This is this is what you want to watch.

I love as a Toronto fan.

I love watching these two teams beat each other up.

I hope they continue to do it.

In Game three, the Yankees edge out the Red Sox four to three.

Today they scored a run in the eighth inning and held on in the ninth.

David Bednor are picking up the save.

Devin Williams with the win.

Rug.

We'll start with you on this one.

What are your thoughts so far in this series?

So for the series, I feel like the Red Sox has sort of been into the driver'sy ever since day one because they like obviously first game they had like the clear avenge in the pitching match with Coachet over Freed, and they like the Yankees, they did take a lead early, but it felt like even then it was just a matter of time of like when the Red Sox score rather than if if that makes sense.

And then in the seventh day one is free if I got out of the game, they got the Weaver scored two and then got another in a knife and they want three to one.

In Game two, Yankees one, and it was sort of like I wouldn't say it was like the other way, where like the Yankees are into diversity because it's there was a bit of back and forth, but like Yankees says, just like had their best guys in because a lot of the best hitters are lefties like Bellinger, Rice Chism.

Those Rice and Chism weren't in the line up in Game one, but they were in Game two.

Because BeO is alrighty And for Game three it's Early, who's a never lefty.

Yankees haven't really seen him that much, I don't think, and he's been pitching really well in the his stand major so I feel like maybe the Red Sox take Game three, and I like, heading into the series, I felt like the reds Socks win it.

But right now is so of It's a lot closer than analys.

Yeah, this is This is a fun pitching matchup to two rookie pitchers, Cam Schlitler for the Yankees, Condony Early for the Red Sox.

Both have been very successful this season in their major league debuts, eras under three.

Both of them fun fun prospects and fun guys to have on your dynasty roster two for sure look moving into next year, Drew, what are your thoughts on this series?

How do you see it shaking out?

Uh?

First of all, I have to point out because, of course I do.

The dominant performance by Garrett Crochet Game one absolute.

I mean, if you had any doubt in your mind, this is an ace in real life and fantasy and whatever facet you want to hear this and take this and apply it to you don't anymore have to, Greg.

I don't know if you saw the article by your friend of mine, Jake Mintz of the Suspenous Family Barbecue, but he referenced how after the game Crochet just sat and spat his dip into a plastic water bottle and played I think the game was Casino Royale or something one of those ridiculous like matching games Class Royale.

Thank you.

I just I read that and I was like, God, bless this, this this true testament to baseball being awesome.

Go big Orange Rocky Top for life, Garrett Crochet.

I love you like I just what a what a stud?

What an absolute bar nun stud.

You guys said it.

Though, as much as kind of I know my family Yankees fans, as I've said previously, as much as they would love it to be just a kind of a Yankees domination tomorrow, I want to see these two storied franchises really just like you said, Greg, beat the crap out of each other, because that's what's going to be the most fun, right, a storied rivalry come into a do or die game.

What else can you ask for?

If you made me pick, I guess I'll go with the family, give me an off back, can't refuse.

Thank the Yankees.

Go.

Just going back to Crochet, I mean, that's why you give up the prospect capital to get a guy like that, right being doing Bradon Montgomery, Kyle teal Wicklming Gonzales.

I forget who the fourth guy was, but Chase my draft.

Yeah, that's why you didn't make that deal.

And the Yankees were in on Crochet as well, and they just they didn't.

They didn't match that offer the White Sox like the Red Sox offer better.

And I mean it's paid off in spades.

Like he's been.

He's been everything and more what they what they expected out of him.

And uh, that's why you pay up for an ace because this is what they can do in the playoffs for you.

They can single handedly carry your team to to glory.

So pretty pretty awesome, all right, guys.

The final series, it's the only one that has not completed Game two.

We're in the bottom of the six now, the Dodgers up three to two over the Reds.

Dodgers took Game one pretty handily, ten to five.

Do we see this being a sweep?

Here?

Drew will start with you, I don't.

Want it to be.

I think anybody that's listened for a long period of time knows that my favorite baseball team doesn't play in Major League Baseball.

But the Phillies are my major league team, and I'd love to see the Phillies get the Reds.

But man, I don't know.

The Dodgers are just so inevitable, feeling, and that's such a hopeless thing.

They're inevitable in a way.

That said, the Reds are not laid over and dying.

I mean, look at some numbers from this game already.

Austin Hayes scorching the ball.

Cabrian Hayes, Hello, scorching the ball.

TJ.

Friedel put a one hundred and four mile per hour single into play earlier.

And we're seeing Nick Martinez really just kind of he's struggling along.

But we'll see what comes from this.

I know Yamamoto is dealing.

He was up to six strikeouts a minutes ago when I looked, so maybe a long night, but hey, three to two, bottom six, anything could happen.

Yeah, they're piecing it together with their bullpenal Hotel pitched the in a third, Lodolo came in after him and ending in two thirds.

It might have been his his side day.

I don't know what the deal is with that, I.

Think so Greg.

The them not using Lodolo in the rotation is bizarre.

Yeah, and the last game of the season, I believe, ah, okay, okay, check check started.

Yeah, and then Nick Martinez in there.

Now interesting pitch usage, But we we see all strategy and all normal seco out the window in the playoffs because it's it's winner take all.

So I just think, but the Dodgers like giving us a ruse the entire season where they just kind of kind of in cruise control, and now they're just going to elevate their game and kind of steamroll everybody like their their highest level is higher than everybody else.

I think we can all agree on that their rotation has four lead arms, maybe five.

They're batting lineup when they're all hitting on all cylinders is the best lineup I would say, uh, when they're all healthy and pretty much this team is healthy again too.

That's the thing, Like they don't really have anybody hurt right now, so it's yeah, I don't know, I don't know who knocks them out.

If they're playing well, it'll be very difficult for them to get knocked out.

But we'll see see what happens here bottom of the sixth and they're rallying right now to score more So, Roger, I want to ask you one more question about the Yankees Red Sox before we move on our Jay's end up with the winner of that series, who would you rather face?

Honestly, I'd rather face the Yankees just because I feel like when the Yankees have faced the Jays've been like more sloppy.

So it feels like like it feels like there would be the maybe not easier matchup, but it's like like easier to handle.

I guess that's just easier matchup, Like they are more scared of the Red Sox.

Yeah, the Yankees are not a good fundamental ball team, and that can hurt you in the playoffs.

They're not a good base running team.

They're not a good fielding team either, so that's something that the Blue Jays are really good at.

Their good defensive team and they're a good base running team, so they put the ball in play.

Yes, the Yankees have some guys to strike out quite a bit, so that tends to work in the playoffs.

That that's one advantage to the Jays would have.

They definitely don't have the home run pop to the Yankees or even the Red Sox have, so we know home runs are a huge deal in the playoffs as well, But we will worry about that for another day because we are not quite at that point yet.

All right, guys, we won't touch on a lot of major league news or minor league news.

The season's over in the minor leagues.

But there was one injury note that I just didn't want to comment on, and that is Boba Schett.

It's still not running yet after his knee injury, which doesn't bode well for his being activated for the next series.

If he's not running, he's definitely not going to be playing.

Sounds like a it was a fairly significant knee injury because he's been out over a month now at this point.

If the Blue Jays don't have Bogashet at the top of their lineup.

Do they stand a chance against out of the Yankees of the Red Sox drew as the unbiased member of this podcast.

Ah wow, it's bizarre to be called the unbiased member of anything.

I don't know, man, that's gonna be really tricky.

What do you think.

I hate to go I hate to just throw it back, but I'm honestly more interested in what you guys think.

They have not played as well as they did earlier in the season without him in the lineup.

I mean, he's really he's really kind of the straw that stirs the drink.

I mean, Springer had an amazing year and he's back at the top of the lineup, but Bashet just lengthens the lineup when he's up there, and he's such I made a comment on maybe a couple of podcasts ago that his his skill of fouling balls off and just using up pictures is so underrated, and especially you'll never see that.

Yeah, you'll never see that on a stat sheet either, but it's one of those real world facets of a game that makes Bashett a special player.

I was on that podcast you're talking about Greg and you you made a very good point.

I'd never considered it, but Bashett does just really waste pictures away.

It's it's such a skill, and you know you're right looking at this lineup without him, it's just not as not as deep.

As much as I hate to say it, Yeah.

You naked Depey have like Nathan Lucas batting seconds, which he's been really good for them, but he's not He's not both Baschett that would just slide everybody down a slot and just kind of linked in that lineup.

So yeah, I don't know.

I don't have a lot of confidence that they would be one of those two teams in a five game series without him, but I mean defensively with him and as that shortstop of their sound there for sure, but it's it takes a lot away from their offense, so it would be difficult for sure.

All Right, moving on to what's going on in Prospects Live.

Our Dynasty team, as I mentioned, are really working on our Dynasty outlooks.

We're going team by team.

We'll do two teams per week, so we're starting with the White Sox and Rockies this week.

These two gentlemen that are on the podcast with me did a lot of heavy lifting on these two teams, Raj with the White Sox and Drew with the Rockies.

They built out their twenty twenty eight lineups based on their farm systems and concurrent contract situations.

Really interesting in the article series.

Please check that out if you haven't, and we'll be having follow up podcasts on each of these pairings of teams.

We're starting on the bottom, guys, We're starting with the teams that really really struggling.

We're going to work our way up to the upper echelon teams, so that'll be a large portion of our offseason lifting here.

I want to comment on one article series that I thought was really interesting from our draft team, Josh Katlan, one of our new members.

He did an article on the top ten pitches from draft eligible pictures.

I don't know if you've got to read that one, Drew, really interesting article, Really well done by Josh, and if you're interested in draft content, our team does a fantastic job and Josh did a great job with this article series.

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Okay, guys, we're going to take a quick break here and on the other side, we're going to come back with some Rockies and White Sox dynasty discussion.

Woo, super exciting dynasty's and Rockies and White Sox.

Dis Guys, we'll be back after these messages, and we are back.

I am Greg.

I am joined by Drew and Raj and on this podcast, we are discussing the dynasty outlooks for two teams, the Colorado Rockies and the Chicago White Sox.

Before we dig into the two teams, guys, I wanted to have a discussion with you about rostering players on bad teams for your dynasty rosters because I think it's something worth talking about because there I think there's a little of a strategy behind it.

So Raj, I'll start with you.

What is your view on having players like Rockies players and White Sox players really bad baseball teams, teams that don't score a lot of runs, teams that give up a lot of runs, but rostering some of these players on your dynasty roster.

What's your what's your thoughts on this.

For me, I wouldn't say I take it on like it's something you consider like the team contact, because it definitely matters like for instance, like like for example, most leagues there, like home runs are runs RBIs, those are volum stats.

So basically what I means like, you need the most in those stats to win, like maybe you're week and maybe if if it's rot to like win the season.

So if you if it's a weaker team like the White Sox, a player that's not so good can like we'll still play every day and they'll still they can still contribute more in those stats than a player who is maybe better but is on a better team who has a lesser role as a result.

So for example, Chase made Off, he's a utilitian fielder on the White Sox, and he's sort of like he's an okay hitter.

He's great against lefties but not as good against righty's, but he put but he plays every day for instead of like someone like in Mundo Sosa into Phillies who is very good against lefties but doesn't play at all against righties because the team is just that much better they don't need him against Righty's so if you actually looked at their values over the year, and Maddoff is actually better than in Mundososa, so Madeoff is better than Sosa even though on a rate basis, made Off is maybe the worst player, because Madeoff got those opportunities to play every day and contribute in those stack categories.

Really good point there, I think, yeah, yeah, maybe, like the team doesn't score as many runs and you maybe won't have any have as many runs and RBI opportunities.

But yes, since he is playing every day because the team is so bad, he's getting those reps because there's no one else to put in there, he does rate higher on a I guess, accuse me a little of uh rate versus average rate staff.

So that's a really good point.

Raj Drew, what do you think about rostering players on bad baseball teams?

From a philosophical standpoint, It doesn't really bother me as much.

Particularly, I think Raj made a great point with roto leagues.

Specifically, it shouldn't bother you much either, and you, being of course the listener at home, I think that again, using the example of me Droth versus say, I think your example is a Mundo Sosa Raj.

I know, it was kind of just a meh Phillies infielder, which is a great comp because the Phillies are a better team and there are probably equivalent run opportunities that opportunities for me Drath with a better player.

It's all about accumulation.

I guess is the net net that I'm trying to get at here, it is.

It's ironic that we're talking about the White Sox and Rocky specifically, the White Sox have been this year kind of a sneaky source of some decent pitching.

Actually, like Shane Smith has been kind of underrated this year.

Davis Martin not a total, you know, murderer to your pitching rotation.

Mike Masill has not had a bad year.

Just there's guys you can pick and choose here and then on the alternative, the Rockies offense in certain cases can be playable.

This year was not so much, but in the past they have been certainly much more palatable.

I think the key thing here is obviously your entire team cannot be comprised of White Sox Rockies players, because again they're just the teams frankly aren't as good, so you're going to accumulate less stats from lesser teams, but to be afraid of having them is turning your back on a whole ocean of potentially valuable players.

And then that gets me to a whole other point, Greg is that because they're on bad teams, theoretically the opportunity cost to acquire these players is theoretically much lower than it would be to get another player.

So, using Raja's example of chase me Droth, imagine what the cost would be for chase me Draff adjacent player who I mean, if either of you can think of a guy right off the top of your head, just a solid contact vat versus left, whatever the case may be, you may have one in your mind at home.

The cost to acquire that guy is going to be substantially higher than the cost to acquire me Drawth, who is likely going to give you eighty to ninety percent of the same stats for a cheaper acquisition cost.

Just something to consider from the nuts and bolts perspective of how you build a roster.

And then also some of the players that are on these bad teams might get moved at the trade dine deadline also, which would change their values moving to a more successful team, maybe the role changes as well.

But when you have good players around you, your opportunities for a lot of accounting stats go up.

So and maybe you get better pitches to hit.

Two.

If you're in a lineup and there's some big, big, big bobbers around you, you'll get some better pitches to hit.

So I think it's a valuable conversation to have, and I agree with you.

I don't think we should be shoying away from these guys and look looking at values and looking at opportunities.

So excellent points all the way around.

Guys.

Okay, we're gonna start with the White Sox here.

Just have a few stats here to go through before we have our discussion.

So how we got here?

The last three seasons, the White Sox record is pretty abysmal.

In twenty twenty three, they were sixty one and one oh one.

We know, last season twenty twenty four, they broke the record.

They were the worst baseball team in history forty one wins and one hundred and twenty one losses.

They improved by eighteen games.

This year, guys, they were a much better baseball team fifty nine wins and one hundred and two losses.

They still lost one hundred games.

How they got there.

They had the twenty eighth best offense.

That's the third worst by ops two thirty two three oh one to three seventy two slash line.

They had one hundred and sixty three home runs in eighty five stolen bases.

As an offense, they had the twentieth best pitching.

Root Drew kind of alluded to it.

They had some sneaky, sneaky performances in there.

They had a four to twenty nine team ERA with a one thirty seven whip and a two forty nine batting average against.

They have two qualified hitters ad a above league average by WRC plus.

That's Miguel Vargas at one o two and Lenin's Sosa one hundred.

If you extend it a little bit lower as far as plate appearances go, Mike Takman had a one to fifteen WRC plus and three one hundred and eighty five plate appearances, and Andrew benin Tendi had a one o three WRC plus and four hundred and seventy plate appearances.

They're leading home run hitter was Lemine Sosa with twenty two and Colston Montgomery and kind of a half season had twenty one home runs a nice power output there.

They are stolen base leader was Luis Robert Junior with thirty three, pretty much the only thing he did well this season.

As far as top fifteen ranked position players with three hundred fifty played appearances, Edgar Carroll was the fifteenth ranked catcher on the fangrast Player Raider.

Lenin Sosa was the fourteenth ranked second baseman of Mike Takman was the twenty ninth ranked outfielder.

On the pitching side of things, they had two pitchers to who threw at least seventy innings with an ERA under four, Shane Smith at three eighty one and one hundred and forty six innings and Mike Fasill at two point fifty and one hundred and one innings.

Really nice season for Mike.

They had zero pitchers with a K minus BBE of fifteen percent or more.

That's not good.

They're wins leaders Davis Martin and Shane Smith tied at seven, and their saves leader was Jordan Leisure at seven.

So not great for those numbers, but it kind of tells you the tail of their season.

A few standout performances and some valuable dynasty players in there.

But rag let's uh, you you built the twenty twenty eight lineup just article for the White Sox.

Did anything kind of stand out to you as you were putting that together?

Do you think this can be a competitive team in two and a half years time?

Yeah?

So for my so at the end of these articles we write about basically the playoff aspirations of these teams, like where we project these teams would be in the playoff picture.

And I think this White Sox team, like in twenty twenty eight would be maybe like a wildcard team, like competing for a wild card, because I don't see them really competing with the Tigers at the talk, because the Tigers have they're a great team right now and they have a lot of good prospects coming up.

But I think they're sort of there's a lot they can get some wins from against the Twins, against the Royals, against and the Guardians in the division, and I feel like that could be enough for them to sneak into a wildcard.

So sorry you go, no go ahead.

I was gonna say, how do you how do you feel about their farm system.

Specifically, do they have a number of position players and pitchers that could come up and make an impact in the next season or two seasons.

Uh?

Yeah, they have a Caleb Barber and Baron Montgomery who are really going to be big best for them in a couple of years time.

I penciled him into the starting line up, Barnmer.

I put him in at there.

He's been playing shortstop into minus, but I think he gets move over there because of colds to Montgomery and Brandon Montgomery.

I put him honestly, like, Baron Montgomery is great, but I feel like the outfield is gonna be a weakness because Bantenny's gonna be efficient, Robert won't be under king control anymore, and talking we mentioned earlier, he's efficient after twenty twenty six, so that outfield's a bit weak.

But like, if you can sign some outfielders maybe to round out the lineup and it's it's a good offense, I'd see.

And we didn't account for any free agent signings or anything in these articles, so we know that the White Sox arem not gonna really considered a small market team by any means.

When they're competing, they're they're willing to spend some money.

Now, Ben Attendee's contract, I believe was the highest in history, if I'm not mistaken that when that came through.

So maybe I'm speaking out two sides of my mouth here, but I think they would they would spend if they had a competitive team.

I think they would would.

They're not, They're not.

I wouldn't compare them to like the Guardians or the Brewers or anything like that as far as what they would spend.

Drew any thoughts on on the major league roster with the White Sox or prospects.

We didn't mention the pitching prospects.

Maybe you can touch on some of the pitching prospects with the White Sox, but they have They've got a couple of lefties in their system that I think can make an impact.

Sure, you know, Greg, I read a really wonderful article just recently about some pitching prospects.

I believe a fellow named Raj route It.

Yes, he did a great job of talking about some of these young pitchers.

Noah Schultz, Drew Thorpe, a guy that a lot of people are forgeting about.

That's gonna be kind of an interesting Pitcher Tanner McDougal.

I'm certainly not gonna step on Rogers toes with that, but I'm gonna let him.

I'm gonna let him cook with that here in a minute.

The guy like Agan Smith, you know, really, what are what are they gonna be?

I think they're gonna be talented.

They' certainly major leaguers, but regardless of the role they're in, they have stuff, they have talent.

They're gonna contribute here.

The White Sox have got a lot of talent.

I love something that Raj mentioned just a minute ago, and I'll come back to it later in our discussion, but I think Montgomery is a guy who could really easily crack this lineup and not ever look back, like once he's there, he's there.

Yeah, I would.

I would agree with that for sure, Raja.

I wanted him to get your thoughts on maybe one Dynasty buy and one Dynasty cell with the White Sox.

You kind of dug into this pretty deep.

So what are your thoughts on a Dynasty buy?

Who would you be targeting on the White Sox?

So for me, I'm probably buying Migual Vargas because he's always had good played discipline.

This year he had a trace ray of just twenty one point six percent and a wid ray of twenty point six percent, so both Fagan marks.

And there's some hitters who don't face a lot, but that's because they don't swingle lot.

Miko Vargas is he's not one of those guys.

He's still sings at pictures in the zone above Age Mount and he obviously makes contact with those pictures a lot.

And he had a big issue with him like entering this year, was that he hasn't really shown that much power into big leagues like he had.

He showed a bit in twenty twenty I believe playing twenty twenty four, his IO was just one oh seven, which is not great.

But this year.

There was a swing adjustment yet had she made early this year in late April, and since that springham judsted me.

He started to bail the ball more often and also pull the ball in the air more consistently.

So before the change, it was a seven point one percent bail rate and a sixteen point one percent airport percentage, and post change it was a nine point seven percent bail rate and a twenty four point two percent airport percentage.

And not only does, he also has eligibilia both first answered base, and I think he'll carry that into a point twenty six and beyond.

In my Dynasty article, I listened him as a first base long term because of kle Barmer, but I think until then he'll be He'll play at both first answered, which is also helped with his versatility.

I like that show.

I've always been a big fan of August.

He doesn't hit the ball super hard, but now that you talk about that swing adjustment, I think that I can make a big difference for his value all the way around.

Even if he's just a twenty home run guy.

I think he's gonna have good ratios and be a good all around hitter.

I've liked him for a long time.

Who would you be selling on this team, Raje?

To be honest, it's hard to find us sell because there's a lot of guys don't big, we lost or have potential.

But I picked Mike Fasio because even though he made his DEBUTUS here and he put up a solid season with a two fifty and one hundred and one innings that we just said, he was used in a multi inning relief role and his he actually had a FIP of four point thirty two, and that was the largest negative difference between ERA and FIP among pitchers, or at least one hundred innings, I believe, and it was actually the difference that it was like half a one greater than the next ties, which I believe was Gavin Willins are very recall correctly, So there was some massive luck in his favor.

And for me, like the reason why I was sort of like maybe debating whether or not to consider him asself is because he he's a bit in treating it if he right goes back to being a starter, because he was a starter in the minors.

But it was announced a couple of weeks ago actually that by a White Sox GM.

Chris gets that he will remain in the bullpen for next year, which is sort of puts him into like a picture purgatory where he doesn't really get the line, only get the starter's workload, but he doesn't really have the stuff to be a back end reliever, so he won't get those stags or holes and those.

Those little tidbits of information.

That's why you follow along baseball all year round.

You hear those little things and somebody might look at the Seals numbers, a whole hundred innings in the two fifty r A.

They stretched him out even more.

He's gonna he's gonna be amazing.

I don't want to pick him up.

Well, if he's gonna be in the bullpen and he only throws ninety innings, like, you're not gaining any value with that acquisition.

So that's a really good shout there, Raj.

It's valuable and points leagues were like they have like start limits.

But even then the fifth is a bit worrying because you don't know if he's going to be effective in that role.

Yeah, absolutely, for sure.

Okay, Roger, give me a give me one prospect that people need to be and on with the White Sox.

I go alluded to this earlier.

But the prospect that I think you should invest in his Taner McDougal.

He's an electric arnum in the White Sox system.

He has a fastball that can touch triple digits, a high spin curveble on slider.

The curveball is in the upper souventies low eighties range and the sliders in the upper eighties.

And then he also has a change solid change up in the upper eighties as well.

The only issue with him is that he's like high stuff, low command, like a lot of these guys and the minors.

But in twenty twenty five he's actually improved his walkway this year in double A where he had fifty five point two innings pitched in at double A and his walker was just seven twenty five percent.

But the only caveat I'd say is that a lot of those outings were beginning spurts.

But next year, I think you'll get built up into a starter.

Sorry, like a more they started out pitch deeper into games like maybe four and five, maybe in six innings, and if you can pull those walker improvements, he'll be he could be in the big nest as soon as next year, in my opinion.

Awesome good call there, And I think that's kind of the way that a lot of these teams are developing their pitchers.

Is there three three innings, four innings, then they get up to five innings once they mature a little bit, and then once they reach the majors, then they're hitting five six innings, which is pretty much a full length start.

At this point, we don't see much more than that.

Unless you're a top of the rotation pitchers.

So good call in that one, Drew.

Did you have any prospects that you wanted to comment on?

Yeah, totally.

The one that I kind of talked about just a minute ago, Braden Montgomery.

I do think that he is probably the most sure thing of the White Sox offensive prospects at least.

But let's let's go a little deeper to talk about Sam Antonachi from Coastal Carolina.

Outstanding prospect.

We've seen him this season at the ripe old age of twenty two.

What I wouldn't do to be twenty two years old.

We've seen him excel all the way up to double A and there.

What we've seen with Antonaci is that he's been incredibly patient, not swinging as much, but that said, he's kind of making it work, you know, eighty six percent zone contact outstanding there.

We're seeing him get on base weighted average of flight what is it, three sixty six again, whipping only eighteen percent of the time.

Incredible contact for this show man.

But beyond the contact alone, what we're seeing from Antonaci is he has had forty eight stolen basis, so he's getting on basis and he's saying opportunity to steal bases with his feet whenever he does get there.

It is really, to use the word of the episode, lackluster power.

That said, I don't think he's a zero.

I think it's just more a opportunity sort of thing, like maybe five seven at the max in the major leagues.

But I mean, if you're getting five to seven home runs alongside a two to eighty average and sufficient stolen bases a guy who doesn't really strike out a ton, I think that's playable, and especially on a team like the White Sox, I think it's a player that you can invest in the deficit there.

I think that we may run into some issues because Antonaci is kind of prime suspect for that AFL boost he comes into the AFL, and because he's got that kind of lightning in his brain that makes him just ultra ultra disciplined at the plate.

He could really feast on some how.

Should I say this raw pitchers in the AFL and look like a freak show and then maybe get it exposed or he doesn't meet people's expectations, timber expectations, invest in Sam Antonaci and then just super briefly, I am.

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All right.

We're gonna move on to the Rockies now, and before we get into the team context, I just want to have a general conversation about playing in course.

This is kind of one of Drew's pet topics.

I'll kind of let him leave the discussion here.

But we know it's an offensive environment.

We know it affects pitch movement.

We know the field is huge, a lot of green space out there because of it.

Drew, tell me about course field, Tell me about the offense, Tell me about the pitching.

Well, what happens when people playing Cores.

So the thing with Cores Field is that it's just like any other field.

Everything you've heard is false.

It's super super pitcher friendly.

Pitchers go there to succeed.

And that's why the Rocky struggle so much to sign pictures, just because there's so much interest, how do you choose?

You really just home grow the guys, because you know at that point is no obviously you know the story.

If you're listening to this podcast, you know the story about Corsefield.

Greg is correct.

I think I've nerded out on this topic maybe more than any other in baseball.

It's just because it's such an interesting thing.

As we alluded earlier, Guys, there are pockets of value in fantasy baseball that so many people avoid, and I think rockies are one of the foremost things that people avoid.

It's all about context.

So Greg, you said it a moment ago, right.

For batters, you hear so much about cores, being like, oh, the power is going to play so well at cores, and it can's that's absolutely true.

The air is so thin, the ball can travel very quickly, but it is circumvented by the fact that it's a gigantic field.

Greg.

Just like you said, man, tons of great out there in the outfield.

The average is what plays up more than anything in coursefield.

That is something that a prospect like for instance, Ethan Holiday, he has sort of a questionable bats ball affinity, but I think that he will have that mask somewhat by being in cores, letting that power play and maybe just you know, something that should probably be a flare out can get a little bit more error under it and maybe get down.

Now Again, as we alluded to a minute ago, the home road splits can be a little jarring in that context.

But yes, batters, it is average.

I've said that on many podcasts, but I'm going to continue to belabor the point, so you hear it.

You'll hear it at home.

With pitching, the Magnus effect on balls is certainly lesser because of the again, the the lack of molecules in the air.

This is super nerdy, I'm sorry, and you've probably all heard me mention it before, but the lack of molecules in the air affect the ball less, which means that pitchers are going to get theoretically less less drop.

The key to working against this is going to be high velocity pitches, pitches that move in tight format because obviously like a gyro slider, Greg, let's use that for instance, right, it's the tight bullet spin.

If you know where that's spinning to and you can break it exactly.

The forces of the air, the drop, the gravity is going to be lesser to affect it less So there is a there's a method to succeeding with pitching in Cores.

I highly recommend you guys listen to an episode of the podcast Lord Since seven million years ago with myself and Mario Dolgado ins or outstanding stuff.

Mario's genius and taught me so much about this.

It is tricky though, and Raj, I'm to pitch it to you here because I'm sure you've heard at some point in your life in playing in fantasy leagues, or maybe you've said it, No, I don't want to be part of those Rockies guys.

Yeah, definitely for the pitchers.

It's tricky though, because there are so many talented guys that I mean to not to jump ahead of the you know, jump ahead of the bus that's gonna run us over here talking about the Rockies.

But I mean, look at a guy a Chase Dolander splits this year, right rash.

I mean, theoretically, if you use Dolander as almost a hired gun, if he's on the road, I'm gonna start him.

If he's if he's at Cores, I'm gonna put him at the very back of the bench and pray nobody looks there because I don't know.

I don't know my team, but I think that there's a methodology somewhere to again using those splits to your advantage with certain guys.

Yeah, I just want to give contact to the listeners under road.

Dolander has a forty six year in fifty two innings at home ninety eight.

We don't talk about that home numbers.

We leave that, we leave that out on purpose.

Yeah, at home, he actually is a you threw eleven perfect games.

Well, thank you.

And then Roger is bright.

It's a negative one e r A at home because Chase Dolander is the man.

But again all seriousness though, Greg, I mean, you know it just as well as me.

Three forty seven ERA plays in any league.

That'll preach no matter what kind of league you're playing in.

Yeah, it does.

It's a different game and incurs as we know.

But you've got to play the game.

You've got to play the game knowing what environment you are in, and it's got to be tough on the players, I think, and this is something we talked about before the podcast.

But yes, there's a hitting advantage there, and did those Rockies hitters get to play in that environment for eighty one games, but they've also got to go on the road and face different environments and they're back and forth on a weekly basis.

And I wrote this in the article that these hitters have to adjust.

They have tuned their wings to be able to hit different pitch shapes, and when the pitch shapes are changing all the time based on the environment, that's going to be really tough on the hitters, especially young hitters.

And that's the Rockies have a lot of young hitters in their lineup to be able to guess where a slider is going to go when you're in Cincinnati versus when you're in Denver.

Like it's it's going to move differently, even if it's the exact same spin rate in location and velocity and all that stuff.

It's going to react differently to the air because it's heavier air in Cincinnati.

So that's one thing that I don't think it gets talked about enough about these Rockies hitters is they have to constantly adjust.

And if you're in a slump and it's in your mind, that's got to be extremely difficult to be able to work through.

So that's a tough thing that they have to deal with as Rockies hitters.

Okay, let's figure out how we got here with the Rockies.

Obviously, they had the worst record in Major League Baseball this year in twenty twenty three, they also had had one hundred losses fifty nine wins one oh three in twenty twenty four to sixty one wins and one oh one loss and then this year forty three wins and one hundred and eighteen losses.

They didn't quite touch the Rocky the White Sox from last year.

They were, they were darn close.

They put in their best effort to get there, and they didn't quite get there.

This came together with a twenty seventh ranked offense, so even playing in that environment, twenty seventh best offense, so that's the fourth worst two thirty seven, two ninety three, three eighty six, with one hundred and sixty home rounds in eighty six to one bases they had, as you would probably guess, the thirtieth best.

So the worst pitching in the league a five ninety eight ERA, and no teams were even close a one to fifty eight whip in a two to ninety six batting average against.

On the hitting side, they had one qualified hitter at at or above league average, and that was Hunter Goodman with one hundred and eighteen WRC plus.

Mickey Moniac was not qualified, but he had one hundred and ten WRC plus and four hundred and sixty one played appearances.

Their leading home run hitter was Hunter Goodman with thirty one home runs.

Mickey Moniac had twenty four.

Good for Mickey Boniac, I gotta say he really he was a number one overall pick.

Twenty four home runs.

That's a great season for him.

It's a shame that organization that drafted and bailed him so badly, and the Rockies picked it up and made it work.

That's awesome.

Yeah, that's interesting the way it worked out.

Their stole base leader was Jordan Beck at nineteen, but Tyler Freeman and Brenton Doyle had eighteen each.

As far as top fifteen ranked position players, Hunter Goodman was the sixth ranked catcher and Mickey Moniac was the forty second ranked outfielder.

They had one pitcher with at least seventy innings with an ERA under four.

That was Jimmy Herget with a two forty eight ERA eighty three and a third innings great season by him.

They had one pitcher with a Kate minus bb a fifteen percent more that was also her Get at fifteen point nine.

Their wins leader was Tanner Gordon was six, and their saves leader was Victor Vadnick with ten.

These numbers are pretty ugly, guys, but that's what you get when you're talking about the two worst teams in the league.

Drew, We're gonna throw it over to you.

You built out the twenty twenty eight lineup for these Rockies.

Are you optimistic with where the where the direction of this team is going to be headed in?

Let's see how many words can I have to answer this question?

Greg?

Let me just let me stop you.

I only need one.

No, I'm not so.

Here's here's the thing.

I do think the Rockies are gonna be okay, They'll be fine eventually.

Now is eventually eight?

I don't know.

It's it's gonna be tough.

I do want to point something out that article today.

As you well know, Greg, we had a comment on the article from Evan Renschler, and I need to call it out on the podcast because one player in particular, I didn't speak to this in the article, but I wanted to speak to it in a comment back to him, but then again on the podcast.

So Evan, thank you so much for your comment.

He said, injuries are a part of the game.

Ezekiel Tovar had large chunks of the season stolen by a hip contusion and an oblique stream.

He barely played ninety games after playing one hundred and fifty seven the prior year.

Aside from his power, I don't see that twenty twenty five with some tremendous step back and by some measures, and he lists strikeout and walk rates, he was actually slightly better, had trouble staying on the field, and his accounting stats suffered significantly.

So the point that I'm bringing that up for Greg is because you said, are you encouraged by the Rockies?

No?

But only because I did the same exercise last year.

Greg, you know that I wrote the twenty twenty four version which projects to twenty twenty seven.

In that article, I said, Ezekiel Tovar among other players, it's not just Tovar needs to have a successful, healthy, productive, step forward season in order to reach this expectation we have from him coming through the excuse me, the minor leagues.

We didn't see that.

We didn't see that from Tovar, And I think Evan made his own argument against himself.

Yes, absolutely, we saw Tvar with you know, improvements in walk and strikeout rates in a smaller sample size, first of all, And I'm not trying to make a straw man argument in saying that, because yeah, that is impressive, but that's a year halfway loss of progression.

When he was on the field, it wasn't as good as we'd seen the year prior.

I think that the future for Tovar is probably somewhere in the aggregate of those two seasons.

And yet, is that gonna satiate the Rockies fans that wanted Tovar to be some incredible franchise changing shortstop.

No, it's not, because chances are he might not be that freak show, you know, franchise altering, you know, a rod On a prospect.

But what he can be is good.

What he can be is solid, and I think that's a win in itself.

So, Greg, to answer your question in the most long winded way possible, the way to look at this Rockies team is they're stepping in the right direction, But I don't know that twenty twenty eight is the right year.

I think you're right on that.

When I was we're going to have our Rockies dynasty outlooks dropped tomorrow Thursday.

By the time the podcast releases, it'll be out, I said the same thing.

I think maybe this is the bottom.

I don't know if they can get much worse than forty whatever wins, forty three wins, it would be hard to get much worse than that.

But they don't have a lot coming I don't think.

I mean, you got Ethan Holiday, Charlie Condon, a few other interesting Jared Thomas Cole carry a few other interesting bats, but nothing Neil moving, I don't think compared to some other teams.

And it's gonna have to be incremental for them if they're not going to take a huge jump forward, I don't think.

And think about also the division that they're in as well.

The Dodgers obviously perennial contenders, the Diamondbacks have proven to be a very good team the last few years.

The Padres are always playing to win, so the Rockies are going to have an uphill battle always in this division.

And yeah, it's gonna be tough.

It's gonna be tough for them.

They're going to have to kind of build build systems where they can just incrementally grow in all the different areas, and they're always gonna have the pitching struggle.

We haven't even talked about pitching yet, but we mentioned Chase Dollander.

He's we all think he can be a stud.

He's got so much potential and great stuff and a good head on his shoulders.

Drew and I we talked talked to him at the Futures Game two years ago, and I'm very impressed with this young man.

He's going to be a bulldog on the mound every time he goes out.

He wants to succeed and do well.

But they need some more guys like him, obviously.

Yeah, that really, Greg, You really said a lot right there, and I know that you know it.

But at home, listen very carefully to what Greg said, because you're not going to always have the opportunity to draft to Chase Dolander.

But a guy like let's use Blank Krim for instance, for just for an instance, right, twenty eight years old, gotten off of waivers from the Rangers this year, real power.

He wouldn't have gotten an opportunity elsewhere.

So in a sense, the Rockies need to not only find and develop as well as they can the Ezekiel Tovars and Hunter Goodman's and you know Blad Brenton Doyle's Jordan Becks of the world, they need to also embrace their mentality as maybe we are an island of misfit toys.

Maybe we can scrape the last bit of you know, butter out of the tub with Chris Bryant.

Maybe we can be the haven for the Mickey Mooney acts of the world, because that's what it's a It's a land of opportunity in which we could see the broken, the maligned, and the you know, turned away come to succeed.

Mickey Moniac is a perfect example of that.

Yeah, that's a good show for sure.

Okay, Drew, give me a dynasty buy on the Rockies.

Who's someone you think can increase their value moving forward?

Uh?

So I did drew things here, Greg, I'm sorry.

My dynasty Bye is also my dynasty cell I would be selling Briton Doyle and is the heal Tovar.

However, I think there is an excellent buying window on Britain Doyle, and it is the health Ovar.

I say that because these are two guys who in last year's lineup discussion, I said, these are dudes we need to see, like, let's see them take another step forward, two guys.

I mean, you remember Greg Roj, You remember Raj.

You probably had some of these dudes on some rosters as much fantasy as you play.

Dude, It's just these these are dudes that were successful twenty twenty guys, and this year he like not great now again.

Injuries play a big part of that.

I'm certainly not ignoring the fact that Tovar could be better.

I mean, what's our excuse for Britain Doyle?

Though it just fell off a cliff.

It just happens.

Sometimes these are imperfect players.

We are not playing with robots.

We're not playing a game on paper.

It's played on grass.

I've recently come to learn Briton Doyle, though he does still barrow the ball well, he has immaculate defensive value and I think that he's gonna be able to have leash with the Rockies.

So if you're a believer, maybe look and see what the cost is for Britton Doyle and again on the flip side of that coin, Greg, if there's somebody that is a Doyle believer that believes in a bounce back, have that conversation.

This is not a guy who is nailed down on any Dynasty team anymore, I think, And frankly, I don't mean to upset anybody by saying this.

I doe Ezekiel Tovar in the exact same boat.

I think that if there is a believer out there, what's the And I'll pitch this to Raj, to you and Greg, what's the ceiling for Ezekiel Tovar?

Neil realistically, genuinely I say that, genuinely, what's this?

What's the ceiling here?

For me?

I honestly see him like very similarly.

I view him very similarly to Hobby Bias.

See so, I well, Bias he has some good seasons.

Bias did have great seasons.

You're right, But I mean, do you hang your hat on a hobby And frankly, I mean Hobby Bias has played quite a few years.

I mean, the Rockies would be so lucky to have a guy that plays and is as you know, versatile as Bias.

But dude, I think you're right.

What if it's hobby bias, then what do we when we look at these comments in this discussion about Tovar losing season to injury.

I just feel like it muddies the water a bit because what really is he?

I love that show.

Good call there with with Doyle specifically.

I think he's one of those guys that's going to be out there every day.

He's a really good defender out there, actually an exciting defender honestly, and lots of ground to cover in Colorado.

As long as he's not hurt, he's going to be out there every day.

And I think those counting stats just go up for many of the reasons we talked about in this podcast.

He is going to play every day, honestly, even if he's not on the juggernauta offense.

Right.

Yeah, And this year, Brendla, he was still a fifteen to fifteen guy, Like fifteen homers, eighteen stone bases, even though he had a sixty six still grass he plus, so obviously the rates of stats were awful.

But yeah, like as you said earlier, since he's on a bad team, he got the volume to get those homers and stolen.

Bases absolutely, all right, Drew.

So is that your buying yourself then we need to move on to the prospects.

Yeah, yeah, I just I think it's interesting, U Rag, I'm curious.

Do you have anybody you're buying or selling specifically?

It's honestly not.

There aren't like many guys, but I kind of I want to say I cheated a little bit.

But like I picked rock Ratio who got caught out from the Yankees to the Rockies mid season.

Okay, he had a great year with the Yankees minlegue system in Double A.

He had a one plus, but then when he moved to Colorado, he sort of fell off a bit, only two home runs in twenty six games.

But he's still like, hit the ball in the here a lot.

He still pulled the ball, which is where he gets his power, and you feel like he's sort of he's sort of like been I guess you could say, is like very unlucky in a way because of the small sample with Colorado.

So maybe he so when while other people may look at his stint with the Rockies double affiliate and say, oh, this is not a good prospectingmore he's with the Rockies, might as well just drop him he might be someone I can pick up on waivers.

Yeah, I think that's interesting.

Yeah, yeah, I like that.

Okay, let's get into some prospect discussion here, then, Drew, who's a prospect you are wanting to invest in for the Colorado Rockies?

Yes, well there too, because again I break all the rules.

I'm just a rogue like that, a real vandal.

I like these two guys as two sides of the same coin.

Imagine if we could somehow fusion dance Brody Brett and Sean Sullivan.

What a spectacle Like my favorite player in the world, Brody Sullivan or Sean Brect, Braun Shullivan, whatever, whatever you call this guy, he'd be a freak Brett specifically, I don't think it's nearly the love that he should.

And I've come to the conclusion I should have really pounded this into the ground with the most recent rankings we did.

I didn't know I was the only guy that like Brodie Brect.

It is a freak show.

Delivery from over the top, aim downward into the zone, with insane heat on the fastball, with life a slider that might I'd be hard pressed to say it's not a top five breaking ball.

In the minor leagues.

His command is workable.

That's always been the bug of it.

It's been what's the command.

He's a believer, Oh my god, he's insane.

He's gonna kill your race, he is.

But what if he's a closer.

What if he's Mason Miller two point zero like grocer stuff.

And don't crucify me for saying that, but I mean, what if that's the case.

Breckt is insane.

And yeah, he's twenty three at low a man, we're gonna have ten thousand excuses because it's a Rockies prospect.

So not only are we having Jabronis who say there's no such thing as a pitching prospect.

That's wrong.

I could think of at least a thousand and a given year.

And then second, Rocky's pitching prospects are dangerous.

Okay, that's fine, there's more Brodi breck shares for me.

Then, all I'm saying is, this is what you wanted to see improve the command.

Continue throwing for strikes, get ground balls.

When you're not striking guys out, it's insane.

Brodie Bret does it all.

He is just kind of old for the level.

But I know a thing or two about being an old fan and then Sean So is the complete opposite freak show command, insane, deception, throws blazing fastballs at the level of what is this eighty nine ninety miles an hour?

Just amazing.

I think that and I said this in the article, So please check it out if you have it prospects Live dot com.

There's loose five dollars a month.

You can read the article.

It's it's it's outlier.

Guys.

If the Rockies can develop maybe not even like a I mean ideally you know they're like, oh, we want to develop an ace.

Yeah, who doesn't.

Maybe you can develop outliers whose stuff, whose command?

Who's who's insane?

Over the top, down into the zone, hit it on the ground if you're going to hit it, delivery like brect or, deception, command, and ability to pitch unlike nearly anybody in the major leagues.

Maybe it is an outlier.

Maybe that's the secret to pitching in course is its outlier talent.

No matter what it is.

Invest I should repeat awesome, Raj.

Did you have a prospect you wanted to mention?

I spoke about Ragio, which I like, that's a prospect I feel like i'd buy I'll try to like the Rockies prosperule is kind of barren, to be honest, so it's hard to find many Rockies prospects I like interested in.

But Raja, I have a question about prospects.

Actually, if that's okay my sales pitch on Brody Brect out of can what would you grant it?

I say it's a center eight because honestly, like the Rockies have like a few good bullpen arms, and if that's like BEX four, I feel like I probably take it.

Like just as an example, we talked about Jimmy Harrigate who was actually clean rock waivers and uh November twenty twenty four going to.

Losster Resource and he had a two.

But they have von Nik who had a two ERA who is their closer one, Mihil who actually having my main league, which is like it's a very deep leak, but he's been pretty solid at Green United States ERA with some great peripherals and he's got some good stuff as well.

And then Halverson, he he's hurt right now, but he grows one hundred just absolute guess mm hmm.

That's one thing that they've done fairly well.

Is they've got some interesting bullpen arms coming some young guys right's been pretty successful and throw hard, and they've done a good job with that.

So that's one thing we need to give them credit for, is they built a pretty decent bullpen.

Maybe they should just be a podrace just win every game with your bullpen.

Honestly, that was a recurring theme, is what if the Rockies are the team who popularized a three inning starter who only sees the rotator or excuse me, the lineup once and then you hand it to guys who are outlier relieved.

Now the baseball peerist in me despises this.

I want to see a starter go six innings.

If not to you try to pitch the whole game.

But realistically, you play with the cards you're dealt, And so that is what if they did kind of game the system.

I know earlier we talked about saves leaders for the Rocky self.

Halverson had eleven saves this year.

He and vod Nick, I see is a really interesting handcuff though for dynasty leagues especially.

I've got them in my home league and I probably will resign both of them just because they are almost sides of the same Coin in a sense they have a lot of SAT issues because they pitched cores.

But man, Raiz, you said a mouthful dude when you said he pumps just straight gas hard facts.

Can't disagree with it.

Yeah, I believe he was from Tennessee, right, Halverson?

Well, yeah, but I don't say that.

I try not to be biased on podcasts anymore.

That's going well, can you tell especially?

No, certainly not.

I don't want to come off like a like a douchebag or one professional or whatever.

But yeah, Halverson's dope, I missed that.

Oliverson in eleven stays.

That's my battle that one.

I got one more prospect.

Question for the Rockies before we wrap it up here.

Guys Ethan Holliday and Charlie Condon probably their top two ranked hitting prospects.

Could we see them both as major league regulars in the future.

What are the chances that they're both major league regulars?

Through the chances on both of them being major league regulars?

Well?

I either or uh oh, either or okay.

I think Holiday is gonna have to absolutely flame out for the Rockies not to give that a shot because the merchandising, I mean everything out of baseball, the business of it.

They're gonna have to He's gonna have to be dreadful for them not to, you know, catch the cash out on Daddy and son, same team, look at how amazing it is.

And Condon is controversial, but he'll make it to the majors as well.

He was too highly regarded not to get a shot somewhere.

He'll they'll both be major leaguers.

Not sure if it's for the Rockies and Rag I'm curious on your thoughts on that, but I also gotta you gotta throw out Roaldie Brito as well as Robert Calais.

I think those are two guys who you know, it might be further than twenty twenty eight before either of those cats, but there would be some dudes as well for the future.

Raj thoughts on Holiday and Condon.

For me, I feel like they will be ripers, but not because Pat married, but because it's the Rockies.

Like like, I'm not super high, Like I don't think they're gonna be busted by any means, but I just feel like I'm not super high, like confident in them because of a hit tool, but because they play in corps, because they play in such a Hitris park that can sort of mask their issues.

But okay, guys, two general manager positions open up, the Rockies and the White Sox.

Which one are you taking?

Raj will start with you.

So I've read a tweet earlier today by you know, Sarahs.

Because the Rockies gym is actually vacant.

Bill Schmidt has stepped one from a role under seeking ex cernal candidates.

So, Dick Monfort, if you listen to this dm me.

But anyways, uh, you know Sarahs, he said, and executive once told him that the Rockies champ positions up his dream job, and you know, with surprise, and he's he's why.

The executive said something like, it's the toughest job in baseball.

The park, the altitude sap seventy eight wins from your team every year.

So if you wind your genius, I want to be a genius baby, Let's give me the Rockies.

All right?

Interesting, Drew, what is your choice?

Would you take the White Sox position?

Would you take the Rockies position?

That's interesting.

I, as you guys have undoubtedly gathered, I'm something of a closet masochist Rockies fan.

In some ways I do have connections to the White Sox though, Greg, I'm my uncle.

My late uncle was a White Sox fan.

And then beyond that, our executive overlords with paths to the show.

Bally's is kind of owned about the White Sox org so or not the work, I guess the family, but either way, I'd love either job.

Matter of fact, man, don't got to be a GM job.

You are just holler you boy, I'll do I'll sweep the floors.

Uh.

But that said Roger, it's so cool you brought that up.

I need to look that tweet up because he's whoever this executive is, is absolutely right.

If you make it work at Cores, you're a made man for life.

And not that it's about the accolade or the accomplishment, but what a challenge.

And again, this is an opportunity to do something that has not, in you know, full faith, been done.

My man Raj comeing and clutch with the tweet link, Thank you sir, but no, you eat that Guy's absolutely right.

I think that would be a great job.

And yes, Monfort family, Drew Wheeler the man for the job.

Question mark exclamation mark.

I think that's a good way to end our podcast as the Reds are rallying late in this game.

Here is south Stewart trying to single handedly carry his team to victory.

It's now eight to four Dodgers.

Not that this update matters at all, because the podcast will be released on Friday when this game is well over and we will know who is playing against your phillies, Drew.

These people are hanging on every word, Greg.

They've waited to hear us, and that's the winner.

Our live studio audience is listening in talent.

Yeah of course, Okay, Drew.

Where can people find you?

I would love to interact with all of you on social media, so please do so.

You can find me on the Twitter machine at drew is okay, find me on Instagram at the same place at drew is okay.

You can find me on Blue Sky the once per month that I'm over there and posting at drew is okay.

And you can find our work as a Dynasty team, my stuff as an amateur team member, and another project I'm working on, Greg which might be grasing your ears very soon at prospectslive dot colum.

Membership starts with those five dollars worth.

Thanks for asking, excellent and Raj where if people find you.

I'm on Blue Guy at Rajmanta dot So if your name is Dick Monfort, then you know where to find me.

All right, all right, Roger, I have a question for Raj before we break.

If that's okay, Greg, go ahead, Raj.

I see that you are referred to as a king often.

How were you coroinated?

I'm curious, no comment, Okay, were stuff?

Well, we'll dig into that one a little bit and figure out why why Roger is a king.

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