Groundhog Day, Right, Groundhog Day, Darren.

Yeah, there's a there's gonna be a bunch more winter.

Apparently, it's from what I'm hearing.

I didn't even hear it.

I knew it all about that today and I just realized that when I said the dates, so more winter.

It feels like there's gonna be a lot more winter.

Six was it six more weeks or eight more weeks?

It's gonna be a lot of winter.

Uh.

I'm gonna have to do some more traveling.

I just got back from Tombstone, where there's just pictures of doc holiday everywhere.

It's very much, very much my vibe.

Awesome.

I'm your host, Craig camp the director of Donacy Content for Prospects Live, joined by Darren Eisenhower, member of my Dynasty team.

Darren.

In this episode, we're talking third base prospects, a very interesting thing position.

We're gonna dig into it in a little bit here, Darren.

Who was your favorite third baseman to watch growing up?

Or Kirk currently?

I mean, I mean, how long has Aaron out have been playing for us?

You know?

It's uh, he's just been he's just been at present.

He's kind of a guy for me as I really started getting into baseball, Like when I was a kid kid, I liked the Blue Jays and grown up in Canada and all that, but it wasn't a die hard.

But for my die hard years or my growing interest years, I think a lot of it was dominated by Nolaner and Ottaw And frankly, he's the guy who showed me like, oh, look, there's like some art to the third base defense I didn't even know about.

Now.

It's he's seen a lot of You've seen some more and more studs defensively over there, but you know, he just he had a lockdown for quite some time.

So regardless of him and his offensive backsliding as of late, you know, we should not forget what a stud he was during his peak offensively but also mainly defensively.

Yeah, I mean, there aren't many better than him as far as defense goes.

He's in the top handful of all time defensive third basement.

And then he had in the offense that he provided during the prime of his career, and I think he's pretty much a Hall of Famer at this point.

He's got some time left to kind of turn it around a little bit here, so he doesn't continue to slide into oblivion.

But yeah, that's a good shout right there.

For sure.

He was very fun to watch.

I'll go back a little older, since I of an older vintage than you, I'm going to go with Chipper Jones.

He was just so consistent switch hitting third basemen.

He don't see very many of those around.

I mean, thirty home runs, one hundred rbi is pretty much every season through his prime, just a My first memory of Tipper Jones, honestly, is back back in the Jay's heyday.

They would always host a spring training series where a National League team would come.

This is before Interleague, and the Braves came, and so I definitely didn't.

I mean, the Braves were an upcoming team and Chipper was a prospect at this point, but they called him up for this and he signed.

I would say he signed for an hour, and he signed until there was no people left to sign for.

So I got down there and I got his rookie card signed, and I was pretty pumped about that, and he kept signing, and I'm like, I got a baseball, I might as well just go down there and get my baseball signed too.

So I got that signed as well, so, I mean you have those moments with players and you're like, man, that that guy spent the time to do that, and that makes an impact on a young kid.

Right, So that was my first first sort of interaction or memory of him.

And then obviously he was so good over his career and just one World Series title, but he played every single season with the Braves's.

That's another thing too, is you don't see any guys play their whole career with one team anymore.

Right, We're probably gonna stay with Josian Ramirez now that he signed his contract, But I mean, what other superstars can we think of it have played for one team only.

Right, Yeah, there's usually always, at least there's a usually one like you know, kind of rogue ending to the career.

There's a some guys will have a one or two year outro music playing well they were some were some weird uniform.

I think there was a post about that on X recently, like, yeah, do you ever remember this?

It's it seems like it's a fever dream.

Forget some of them, but I'll definitely say my number two was of all time favorite.

Third basement of Watch has been a heck of a career, you know, Caleb Durban.

Uh, you know, potential potential Hall of Famer.

We don't know yet.

There's too much time to say yes or no.

But uh, if you can't watch this video, folks, there's a little bit of a sly grin upon my face.

I just really like Caleb Durban.

Someone please tell him to answer my dms.

If he was on X he you'd see my DMS because I got that premium, you know, and I got like a bit of a I don't really do baseball, el sports.

I'm just like from my personal account on Instagram, I'm just like RBS.

I was always your guy.

I made you, you know.

I actually came up with the Durbinator, the name of the Durbinator, and then on the Brewers social media that he started using it.

I asked Rock, I said where, I said, Who's who did this first?

Like I said, without mentioning me or or the Brewers, I said, where did that nickname come from?

And I said this date, Doc Eisenhower, you know, was the first that I can see to say it.

I'm like, yeah, brother, yeah, And I said, but I asked him, I said, are you just saying that because you know that I'm Doc, and he like kind of laughed like the AI dmon kind of laughed.

Yeah, maybe a little bit, but it was true.

Yeah, we're in the presence of greatness here, Darren on this podcast.

All right, we got a big trade to talk about, Darren.

This this just happened this afternoon, three way trade.

Of the three way trades, somehow the Rays and the Dodgers always get to be that third team to get in there and just get get what they're looking for.

So the Cardinals have finally traded Brendan Donovan.

I mean, he was rumored all off season with multiple teams looking for second baseman, so he is going to the Mariners.

The Cardinals are getting a haul in my opinion, Durangelo Cincha of the Mariners type heat as well.

And then from the Rays they're getting Colton led Better and they're getting two comp B picks number sixty eight and seventy two, one from the Rays, one from the Mariners, and then the Rays get Ben Williamson.

So it's kind of they trade led Better and they get Williamson.

That's their piece and the deal.

So I think the Cardinals did really well here.

Obviously, Donovan has two years left on the contract.

Very good player, just solid, solid player.

I saw.

I think it was Jeff Passon compared two lines of players, two career lines, and they both had about the same amount of war.

And the two compared players were Brendan Donovan and Bobaschett, and they had the same amount of war the same value throughout their career.

And obviously we know Bashett is not a great defender.

It's all pretty much of offense.

But Donovan is that all around spark plug player, probably a better real life baseball player than a fantasy player.

I think you're nodding your head there, But the Mariners needed somebody like this.

They're really lacking.

They've lacked a second base for a long time, and to get some since Robbie Cano first came over there, I'm guessing it is the last time that had somebody as good as this.

So let's let's fig your thoughts on this deal.

How do you think these teams made out?

Man, I was just checking to see how it Ledbetter's doing.

I remember coming out on the draft he was kind of like a sleeper in some circles.

I feel like he's like I'm looking at his profile it's it's not gonna blow your mind, but there is some kind of upside here.

He didn't his power dropped off, so that's a concern, but his speeds stayed the same.

This guy, what's this isn't he big six' one two oh five He that's like your ideal baseball frame.

Uh so, Yeah, he had sixteen home runs and thirty four stolen bases in twenty twenty four.

I feel like he didn't get the credit he maybe deserved for that.

Maybe some people were worried about the strikeouts and so forth, but uh, I mean, overall, this looks like he's like an interesting guy.

The reason I'm talking about Colton Ledbetter is like he's almost the most you know, the last of the names here, the least of the names.

Uh, these are all uh you know, all three cult the names here.

I've got two tabs.

But yeah, so I love Derangelo, two arm guy Cash.

I don't how is he saying kajent Sina?

That's what I said, Duranglo, j C.

There we go if you found it, j C.

Ty Pete and Colton Ledbetter.

You know those are like, no of these are gonna blow your mind or anything like that, but I just I love the potential.

I hope the Cardinals don't, you know, I know that I heard the Mariners that wanted to limit JC to one arm, and so I hope they don't.

I think it's so fun if you just let him, if you let him become this really weird weapon.

And I've said this before, what happens if he blows his arm out one of them?

Dude, you can just not have him miss one to two years of time.

You can have him use the other arm, and then then you find out what army's gonna be.

Right, maybe maybe that becomes the primary one.

That's a really crazy way to think about it.

But is it that crazy in this era where so many arm injuries.

Dude, you have two weapons.

If one of them is acceptable, please like, don't let them let it rust away.

So anyway, that's my GM thoughts.

And really I think the underrated thing here that I was just looking at was the two comp bet picks.

It sounds so, you know, two comp bet picks.

It just sounds if you don't really get into the weeds of the MLB draft, maybe you shrug that one off.

It just doesn't sound important.

But yeah, picks sixty eight and seventy two.

If you were to phrase is it more as like you know early or like you know late second a early third rounder.

To say it that way sounds more interesting.

It just doesn't sound so corporate or government de But yeah, it's a like that's two of them, like right in the heart of a draft.

Uh, is that for this upcoming draft?

Yes, that's a deep class.

So that is and then you get that pool money.

Is this need of stuff that you're not going to see that the fruits of until later.

But I remember I can take off off the top of my head two guys from comp rounds in twenty twenty three who were in a deep draft, and that was that was Thomas White and Kevin McGonagall, and that was this That was the first round.

That was the early seconds.

Not exactly not exact exact comp here, but it just shows you that those kind of picks can be important.

So for Brendan Donovan, who you know, some people may shrug him off because in fantasy he just reads like a utility guy, low, little level utility guy.

I watch a lot of them.

Watch all cards games.

You can play basically at any position and see like you said, in real life, that is incredibly valuable.

But he's a good hitter.

He's not going to hit like twenty home runs, especially not in this park.

And if you're put him in like Cincinnati, your cores, he'll kind of be fun but for fantasy, but in terms of like real life baseball player, he's going to probably be that basically the same guy in Seattle that he was in Saint Louis.

Is really useful, does everything well, no real weakness, So good luck to him, I think.

Yeah, for for real life, a great haul for Saint Louis.

For fantasy, nothing changes for Donovan.

Yeah, I agree with that.

I agree with Donovan's profile part.

He stays pretty similar as far as what his outputs will be.

Again, I like what the Cardinals got here.

I think Cincha, Yeah, they floated.

The Mariners floated out that they were only going to use them right handed in games to start the season.

Anyways, I think that might have been smoking mirrors with the deal about to happen.

I don't know why they would do that, but anyway, I got to watch him this year in Little Rock, and I made sure I got there early so I could watch him warm up and it was.

It was pretty awesome to watch him warm up.

Left you righty, left you righty, kind of what he went through, and he pitched really well in the game, and he pitched well left handed in the game.

I know it's his weaker side, but I think I don't think it's just a gimmick.

I think he's good enough to do it.

Obviously, this stuff's not as good, but I'm not sure what the Cardinals are going to do.

They haven't obviously said yet what they're going to do with him.

They're probably gonna get a look at it and spring and see what happens there.

But he's a fringe top one hundred prospect.

This is a good haul.

The Cardiners are kind of changing what they're doing with their pitching as well.

They they were always of that mindset to get the groundballers, the guy that throws strikes and don't get a lot of strikeouts and pitch the contact.

And they've got some They've got some pretty legal arms in their in their system now and I'm pretty excited about what's coming for them.

As far as some of these arms.

They got some stuffy guys, which is pretty awesome.

Typete is an athlete with a pretty brutal hit tool.

He's not been successful at all as far as getting the bat on the ball, but he's an athlete.

He can run, He's got some pop.

See if the Cardinals can, I mean, Joshua Bias is a name that they've really kind of turned around.

Maybe they can do the same thing with Typete and get cold and led better to I mean, he's a twenty four year old in Double A, but get the most out of him.

And again, the picks are super valuable.

Two point four million in pool money from the last draft for those two picks sixty eight and seventy two approximately.

You can do some different things in the MLB draft.

You can float.

You can float a player down a few spots or several spots with some money and kind of and get the guy you want.

It's not like you're just picking the best player.

If you have a lot of pool money, like the Cardinals are going to have, they can do some things.

They can talk to some people and say, hey, we'll give you this money if you if you sign with us, and and uh, it'll be very interesting to see what they do there.

This is this is full rebuild.

Now this is this is really putting the pieces together here to to have a long lasting run.

So I think they did really well waiting on it a little bit.

They got a few extra pieces added in, and especially with the Rays adding and ledbetter, I think that kind of sweetens it a little bit more.

So interesting deal and we'll, uh, we'll see as we hear more of the news.

Roll in one more kind of minor trade.

The White Sox get Jordan Hicks and David Sandlin and two players to be named later for the Red Sox for Gauge zeal and a player to be named later.

It's really just kind of getting that Hicks contract out of there.

They're gonna pay it down a little bit to get, uh, to get Sandlin the White Sox.

I think they did a good job here.

Sandlin's a solid pitching prospect, just kind of building their ass.

They're gonna take Jordan Hicks on for I don't know how many seasons he has left, two seasons left on his contract.

Maybe use him as a as a believer again.

The last the last two times the White Sox and Red Sox have made trades, they've gotten left handed Cy Young sal Young type guys right with Crochet and Chris Sale.

So gage deal is not a left handed pitcher, so I think that eliminates the possibility of happening again.

But an interesting deal nonetheless, And how any thoughts on this deal before we move on?

Yeah, just we're with Sandlin's arc where he's like lost all the strikeout ability last year.

I don't know if he was dealing with injuries or what, but if he wasn't so much for the Boston pitching lab, right, this kind of looks like they Yeah, I didn't get the most out of him in twenty twenty five, so we'll see a good spot for Sallin to bounce back.

I'm not too interested in Hicks's point outside of may reliefed you know, could be high leverage reliever one day.

That'll be cool, all right.

Then a couple signings here, we'll talk about a Huenio Sareez signs with the Reds going back home one for fifteen million.

Probably the best scenario he can find himself in comes coming off a forty nine home run season to go back to a great American ballpark where he had so much success for six seasons.

I believe.

Thoughts on the signing, I.

Thought it was.

I thought it was like over fifty forty nine forty nine.

Yeah.

So I was looking at his stats just the other day and I don't remember why, but it was such a crazy year.

It was his metrics I was looking at.

He's like really bad metrics too, just like looks like he really overperformed.

Yeah, forty nine there that said, this kind of just is who he is.

Fifteen million is as good.

I was on Pirates Twitter.

I think I talked too much about Connor Griffin because I'm feeding him more and more of I've been getting fed this Pirates Twitter stuff.

And they were over the mine and their people, their beat writers were kind of like, yeah, we offered the same, we're a little bit more.

But he just really wanted to go back.

The whole time he was having his eyes on Cincinnati because he liked it his time there.

He wanted to go back, and hey, you know, maybe that's the smartest thing possible, right if he's at the point of his career where he knows, I don't know, like maybe this was a situation where obviously obviously he wasn't getting the long term deal anywhere.

So if he's at the point where he's like, I know I'm only getting I'm thirty four now.

Yeah, he's already thirty four.

He'll be actually thirty five in the middle of the season.

What an old guy.

I just turned thirty five last week.

So thank you the happy birthday to me.

Thank you.

So hopefully the audio is gill.

It was really funny.

If you can hear what I'm saying, I can turn your turn, your turn, your hearing up there.

So I would say though, if he knows that, if he's smart enough to recognize where his value's at right now, he's only doing one year contracts from here on out, maybe two, it's like, yeah, go to the Great American Ball bark or you can just keep mashing for your fifty every year almost guaranteed, and so you can just max out for your family's future for you to have more fun too.

If you like playing baseball either way money or baseball or both, like that's almost like go to Colorado too, So just go hang out in these places and rip one years at a time, and for fantasy purposes.

Yeah, I mean, hope you don't play in obip leagues, but if you're in a BA only or OPS you could probably get by, and certainly there's a point where he becomes cheap enough that you're like, yeah, i'll take your forty to fifty home runs.

You can't just find those on trees.

Yeah, I mean, that's really what he is now.

He's he's that home run for stat line and you're not going to get a big batting ever, he's not going to get a big OBP because he's hitting all fla balls Like that's really what he's he's doing now is he's lifting, a pulling and striking out on sliders.

He's hammering fastballs, and that's what he's gonna do.

And he's gonna hit thirty five plus home runs again this year if he stays healthy and probably more so.

That helps you in fantasy for sure, and hopefully it helped the Reds win a few more games, Luis said.

Raya signs with the Giants one for twelve, and he's going to play second base.

Interesting.

Not a great defender, obviously, and he's a very very niche player back the ball, elite, one of the best in the game.

That's really all he does.

No power to speak of, not a lot of speed, not a great defender, all the value comes from his batting average.

So I mean, he's a batting average play, that's what he is.

He's probably going to get replaced at the end of games.

He's going to lose some at bats because of that, but he's that's what he's good for.

So if you're in a bating average league, this is a guy you want to look at, even opp league too, because his batting average is so high that his opp is automatically high as well, even though he doesn't walk a ton.

But you're going to have to insulate your lineup here if you're going to use him as a key piece, because he does not hit for power or speed.

Yeah, I mean, I think he's fine in road leagues where you know he's crushing crushing batting average especially, so it's worth worth going for that.

But he's not gonna he's got good He's not gonna knock your sacks.

After we know who he is at this point, so you're either in or you're out, and you know his the big old confines of the Giant stadium there.

It's it's not gonna boost his home run numbers, but he'll hopefully he'll be the same.

How old is he now like thirty.

I think he's been like, yeah, I just think he's low thirties.

I think would be my guess.

See twenty eight, Yeah, one of those guys just seems like he's been around for forever.

But he's still just twenty eight.

It'll be till be twenty nine this year.

So of course enough, all right, We're gonna go rapid fire for these smaller ones here.

Austin Hayes signs with the White Sox one for six, Martin Perez signs to the Braves on a minor league deal, Dylan Moore with the Phillies on a minor league deal.

The White Sox because of the move with Hayes, Dfaid Hiro Erirte and Drew Romo, two former top prospects.

Jacob Wilson extensions seven years seventy million to attack on to all the different extensions the Athletics have done so far.

I think Nick Kurts is the only one left that doesn't have one, and I'm sure they're talking to him about that.

If any pe avoids arbitration two years of eleven million.

Blake Snell to be slow played in the spring.

The Dodgers really don't care about that they just want a healthy Blake Snell by the end of the season.

Logan Evans ucl surgery will miss all of twenty twenty six, and David Robertson retires any thoughts on any of those notes there.

Yeah, real quick, you know, we got to move along here.

But the love that Vinnie P's going to be around for at least a couple more years.

It's interesting.

I hope they're willing keep him their long term.

I think it's fun.

Keep him out of the Yankees form for as long as possible.

I know he's a big Jets guy.

Is he from that?

Is he from New York area?

I know he's incredibly Italian.

They listen, dude, they have Italians in Kansas City.

I like the Royals.

I'd rather than them keep him.

He's such a fun player.

You know he's from Virginia, I remember now, Yeah, from Old Dominion.

But anyway, seems to like the Jets is.

Keep him out of a Yankees uniform as long as possible be fantastic.

So yeah, And then David Robertson shout out to that dude, because I'd gambled in this one really quick.

In the salary cap of league with escalating contracts, you get out of a contract if a guy retires.

So I picked him up without getting into the nitty gritty of economics.

Nobody listening understands because it's different from league the league.

I give him a three year contract before last season, and then he sat around for half a season and I'm like, oh no, because what if he just does this every year?

So because you can't put him in in an il or any kind of other slot, he's just rotting on my bench, and he's an okay price, and like it's a thirty teamer, so take if it comes back with a team, and he's just like at that point in time, it seemed like he could get saved and definitely holds like a hold mastermind, really good for ratios.

Anyway, after last season, I'm like, oh no, I'm gonna have a really albatross here.

Think about cutting him.

No, actually I did cut him, but I cut him and ate like I ate a bunch of salary.

And then he retired just his last week, and I was so happy.

Oh man, I was delighted because it all goes away.

That's calculated gamble.

Anyway, thank you for a great career.

Though, David Robertson, if you're listening to this fantastic podcast, obviously I believed in you, but I also thank you for being decisive and not waiting around.

And we'll just we mentioned this last podcast, but the insurance issues with the WBC is just a complete mess right now.

Team Puerto Rico is considered withdrawing from the tournament.

I don't think that's going to happen.

Commissioner Manford has went in and and they've looked at all these individual insurance deals with each player and they've sent a few of them through, but lind Or it remains the one that they're really worried about.

And he had a minor surgery right at the end of the season, and one of the stipulations of insurance for this tournament is if you haven't if you have a surgery in the off season, you do not get insurance covered.

So it's it's a weird system the way they have it.

If you're thirty seven or older, you don't get insurance for the tournament.

It's like all these little, these black and white rules that they put in place, and they've got to figure this out because you want your best players playing in this tournament.

Obviously there's risk for any player that's playing in it of getting injured, but this could happen in spring training as well, so we won't we won't talk too long on that, but hopefully they get it resolved.

Hopefully Lindor gets to play and some of the other guys that have been told they can't play.

The deadline is Thursday.

I believe for the rosters this might even go past that point if they want to get it resolved.

But we want to see a great tournament with all the best players in the world.

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Darren, we're going to take a break here on the other side.

We're talking Dynasty Prospect third Base Preview.

We will be right back after them.

All right, we are back.

I am Greg, joined by Darren on this one Dynasty Prospect third Base Preview.

Darren, We've talked a little bit about it in the opening, but third base is an interesting position right now, major league and minor league.

How do you kind of see this position playing out generally?

And then maybe zoom in and on the prospects, I.

Mean, it's kind of the same on both sides.

Just I've been doing some mock drafts, which would you know, some of them are redrafts, So I'm getting an idea of how you don't want to be there after the Cliff there's a cliff and if you wait around too long, it's it's slim pickings and or you got to pick on one thing or the other, you're going to be missing out on some kind of category, which would be yeah, it's just not ideal.

And so the same things kind of with the prospects.

Although then the nicest thing about prospects is that there there's hope.

There's always like there's a chance someone pops off out of nowhere, and frankly, after digging in, I do think that it's there's something there.

There's just not a lot of hype, like your top five guys, your fifth guys we're gonna get into is like a lot of people maybe who are doing twelve team dynasties don't even have them on their radar or barely do or yeah, it's it's just like it's not a very flashy position right now.

And it's it's interesting because you have to predict who's coming up next.

And I hear this sometimes that with dynasty prospects.

When you're drafting in an FYPD, you know, don't don't bank on their on their position because a lot of prospects are gonna shimmy around, especially if they get traded they might go back even or whatever.

Right, that's generally not the worst advice, but you should still think about what they what they're likely to play, like, think about their their their how's their arm?

Is their arm good enough?

If it's if there are already out of the draft questions about the arm and their value, and they persist, especially if they persist they're not playing third, like that's just at some point someone's in a couple longs a better fit.

And then so I just say that you keep an eye on that.

You know, shortstop.

Everyone comes up and they're all hot shots short stops.

The bigger ones h with with an arm are the guys who are more likely to land at third.

You have to have a little bit of agilly because if you're too big, too junkie, then they just check you over at first or maybe sticky in left field or right if you do have that arm, but you're just yeah, I don't know, it's it's an interesting thing.

It's more I feel like in the outfield, like the corners, if you have to have decent straight line speed, whereas on third base you's got you gotta be a bit more agile as opposed to you're not sprinting too much anyway.

It's it's interesting, but uh yeah, it was kind of good to get to know them because I feel like the third base prospects and the third base dynasty at large is it's not great, so invest in it, you know, especially when you see catcher in first base kind of having renaissances, like, Okay, if you're doing a startup, see where you can get in at third base.

Yeah.

When you think about the positional journey of players as they make their way up into the league and then go out throughout their careers, is the third base is kind of in the middle of that journey, right.

We've got shortstop in center fields where they start out because that's what they were in their high school team and then their college team.

And then as they age and maybe their body changes or they get a little bit slower as they get into their thirties, they're moving down to third base, maybe across the diamond to first base, maybe to a corner outfield spot.

So it's kind of in the middle of that journey.

It's not the end, because we know first base or DH is the end of the journey.

This is kind of like the mid phase of the prospect and not the prospect, the positional journey of a major league baseball player.

So when you've seen them the shortstop already move over to third base when they're in the minors, you know they've already they're already on their way through that journey.

So yeah, I think you summed it up really well.

I think there definitely is a top tier to this group.

And then some of the names I'll put names in quotation marks that you would see on a top prospect list.

They're not they're not here yet, or they're not here right now.

There are some names here, but who knows if they're going to stick at their base.

This is I'll speak from putting together this list.

It was difficult to put this list together because there a lot of these guys have played other positions.

They maybe they're other position was their primary position.

At third base was their secondary position they were Some of these guys were drafted as shortstops, some of them were drafted as third basement.

So it was kind of hard to make it.

I did the best I could with it.

Uh, So let's start with this this uh top ten here, So before I get into the list.

I just want to say that there's a possibility that Kevin McGonagall is at third basement this year.

He he's played short stop pretty much all the way up.

He's played a little bit of second base, did not play any third base at all until he went to the Fall League this past year and the Tigers put him at third base.

I think they wanted to see what they have.

I don't know whether they made a decision on that, and maybe think that he can place some third base or move around a little bit.

They've got a lot of interchangeable pieces in Detroit right now, there's not I mean, you got Glabor Torres and then what else do you got set in Stone and Detroit pretty much nothing right, But you've got a whole bunch of guys to fill those spots.

And the Goneagle is probably the best hitter of all of them.

So they got to find a spot for that bat.

Where does he fit defensively?

It could be third base, So he would be the number one on this list if he does end up getting third base eligibility.

But we start with Sebastian Walcott.

I got to see him playing third base this season in person, and he looked pretty good.

He handled all the plays that were hit to him.

He's probably not a short stop long term.

I think it's where he ends up.

So he's the number one Texas Rangers prospect.

Caleb Bonnember of the Chicago White Sox, number two, Sal Stewart, who actually he only he's been talked about all these other different positions.

He actually only qualifies at third base right now currently.

I think that's where he's eligible at fan tracks as well.

Cincinnati Reds and now with Suarez at third base there, I think they're looking at him across the diamond, possibly to play some more first and maybe a little bit of second, maybe some DH to get his bat in the lineup.

Ethan Holidays on number four Colorado Rockies.

I know we'll talk about him with Darren on the podcast here.

Jacob Rimer is the player you were alluding to, who people may not know who he is, who is a very very good prospect.

New York Mets.

Gavin Feene of the Texas Rangers, number six, Andrew Fisher of the Milwaukee Brewers, number seven, Cam Collier of the Reds, number eight, Alex Freeland of the Dodgers, number nine, and Xavier and Nine's of the Houston Astros is number ten, rounding out our top ten.

So let's start right at the top.

Darren Sebastian Walcott, is he in a tier by himself?

Or do you think Bonnimber and Stewart need to be talked about here as well?

Yeah, I think you could talk about all all three of them.

I'd say that Walcott, it's interesting to me because I've heard you see he's playing a lot of shortstop.

Still, I'd say that it wouldn't shock me if eventually Corey Seeger shifts a third Like maybe that sounds crazy, but he's getting older and he keeps getting banged up, and frankly, he's probably gonna miss time this year, like Walcott could see time as the Rangers short stuff this year.

So I'm not one hundred percent set that he's going to be a third baseman, to be honest, We'll see how that works out, see how his body turns out.

Six four one nine.

He is what he's listed at.

Seeing him, he seems like he's lean enough to pull it off.

Of course, he's got this fun blend of power and speed.

Needs to be a little bit more efficient.

On the base pass, but nothing too crazy.

I'm not looking at his contact rates right now, but I remember seeing that he just I was kind of the guy who's like, hey, calm down a little bit.

It's funny because like there was so much insane hype around him and then it's died How is how it goes down?

And it's like kind of died down.

I don't know if he's really done anything to deserve that, like you know that that it's not like he became a bust if anything.

Like it seemed like he had some really some real concerns with his hit tool, and I think he's answered those questions.

I don't know if he's ever gonna be In fact, I'm almost one hundred percent positive he's not gonna be a three hundred hit or anything like that, but it looks like a path to something like maybe a two fifty average and you know, three thirty or so, maybe more OVP.

We'll see.

And how if he always surprises me?

How young he is?

How is he still nineteen?

Like that can't be right, Like I said that before I saw it, Like I remember, I first I was kind of being horror on him and he had just turned eighteen.

I was like, what, that's twenty two.

Uh yeah, so he's doing exactly what you want.

I'm looking at his contact rates right now, but yeah, they were so bad, like at the complex at forty four and the percent and that high A it skipped low way.

I don't know why you're doing that, but I guess it's working out.

And now he's uncomfortably in the seventies here, you know, seventy six.

He peeked out at double A in twenty four and then down to seventy four percent last year.

So he's doing enough to stick around and play some really good defense.

And I don't know, is this a twenty thirty profile.

I don't know what the expectations were, like, why has he lost steam?

I don't know.

Maybe they thought he was gonna be like a forty forty guy.

I actually thought he'd be slowing down a bit more.

Doesn't seem like he's doing that.

So Walcott, he seems like he could be special, and he's again, how was he still nineteen at double as?

He's consistently been super young for every level and he's I mean, I mean, his numbers don't pop off the page like some of the other top prospects.

But to perform the way he has at the levels he has, I think is very impressive.

And I think he's just still learning.

Like nineteen years old, he's still still learning the game.

I mean, I got to talk to him aout the futures game.

Real easygoing kid.

He's an Island island kid obviously, and it's it's gonna be fun.

I think, I think maybe he does.

He's the major league time this year, maybe at the end of the season, and that'd be pretty impressive for somebody who's starting the season at nineteen years old.

Oh, he's going to turn twenty on on the fourteenth of March, so when the season starts, he will be twenty.

But it was Evan Carter yep brought him up as a young and yep.

Absolutely.

Okay, let's talk about the top the other two guys in that tier that you had mentioned, so Bonimer and south Stewart.

We have Bonber ranked ahead at this point, even though Stewart's seen major league time.

How do you kind of compare and contrast these two players.

Well, they're incredibly different.

One.

South Stewart's not going to qualify as a third basement in short order, so you can kind of forget about him.

I guess.

I guess that should have been the answer is that, yeah, yeah, there's a tier of third basement here.

South Stewart ain't one of them, and so Bonber though.

Yet that's how crazy because I'm like gather both nineteen him and Walcott.

He's actually older.

He was drafted as a prep like recently, but yeah, he's twenty years and three months already.

But yeah, he was.

I remember he came out of the into the and the miners as this like power bat from Michigan cold weather.

So I don't know, it seems like this skals didn't get a good read on him because they were like, really not.

It weren't like al was hit to us horrible, but they didn't seem to know what to make of it.

Well, it turns out it's fine.

He actually has really good, you know, patients instead of passivity.

Tapping into twelve home runs across one hundred and seven games last year as a teenager made it up to high A by the end of it twenty nine.

Tolen Basis was the big shaker though, that was the big thing.

I don't think speed was on the radar with him at all.

So now you have this guy who's like, okay, let's let's see his contact rates here.

Yeah, high seventies, pretty good.

And then he's taking a ton of walks, not striking out at all, stealing a ton of bags, and he's a pretty efficient while doing it.

And the power is kind of what you thought it would be, especially for a teenager.

It's gonna probably grow.

It's exciting.

I mean, this is like genuine I don't know, could he hit twenty five home runs?

Could he steal twenty five bases?

This could be a twenty five to twenty five guy with good ratios, like maybe a gosh, maybe a Gunner Anderson kind of type that that's lofty.

But Bonnemer was kind of like I remember, I was really high on him and Luke Dickerson, and so because there are these high paid guys, uh prep prep kids with signing bonuses coming out of the draft and in some kind of later rounds, not the first round, and so I thought Dickerson was gonna be really really great off the out of the gate, and Bonnemer might be, you know, right behind him.

It turns out, plip it around and Dickerson's got some work to do, but Bonomer, he's a top thirty prospect, you know, has to be.

Or Steward's just this like different guy.

He's I love him.

He's like this classic Italian.

He's so so funny man just Sally.

He'll be like he's got I don't know what his nickname would be, but you know, Big Sal the Godfather called him the Godfather, and so he's a complete different type.

He's not gonna steal.

Really, I don't think he's gonna steal a lot of bases.

He's been doing it, but I don't I don't see how that frame is going to hold up doing that long term.

So I think you're looking at like a twenty two.

I mean that ballparksys so helpful for him because normally i'd say maybe like eighteen to you know, to twenty three kind of home runs.

This could be he could get up to twenty five home runs here, and it's interesting with him.

I'm interested in your thoughts because I know that prospects live a lot of folks that were really low on Sal Stewart like saying he's no good, and then other places like Tim Kanak, who I talked to is like, he's my number one prospect.

He's the number one prospect or like outside of Connor Griffin or something like that.

I don't know.

He's just like unbelievably high on him.

I'm like, well, you gotta relax a little bit.

I think he's more of a I think he will just pick a real I think he'll be a bit of an Alec burls Andy type, but with a with a boost considering the ballpark.

So as far as Stewart goes, I think the concern is the defense, for sure.

And it was definitely our pro side team that hadn't had the concerns about the decent, totally valid concerns that he's going to be a first base in the long term, and we know first base you have to you have to slug, you have to be able to do that, and the concern was that he wasn't he was going to be a twenty home run kind of max type bat.

I mean, some of the projection numbers here nineteen home runs, eighteen home runs, kind of in that range for his rookie season, pretty impressive.

He had twenty last season total, so the twenty five actually if you count between minor league and major league, so he's twenty five.

So I think you're right on, right on with this.

I think he is a twenty five home run bad at peak and he's just a good stick.

So whether they put him at first, eh, I don't think they're going to try him on second.

Definitely, not a third now with Suarez over there.

So fantasy though, it's a little bit different story.

Right, You're not worried about the defense too much.

You're worried about the bat getting in the lineup and and twenty five home runs for a guy is kind of what you want.

So as far as Bonhamber, you mentioned kind of the guys that you look at their body and think they're going to move over, and he's kind of that build, right, He's he's thick, he's strong.

Probably he played more shortstop than third base this past year, but I think that the move is probably in the next year that he's going to be a full time third baseman.

And he started shifting over already, so you know it's coming.

Yeah, definitely, But this is the guy that people are talking about in the future, top top ten prospect, yeah, and that's that's pretty pretty special type players.

So yeah, and just just just for the viewers of the listeners, So just this, this is the perfect is exactly what Greg alluded to earlier.

Started off at low way sixty seven games at shortstop and then twenty four at third base.

Okay, and then by time he's in high A though, and it's throughout the same time as Colson Montgomery locking it down in the big leagues at short He's ten games at third base, one game shortstop.

Yeah, this is going to be interesting to see what the White Socks do because they've got Colson up there already, they got him are coming, and then you got Billy Carlson, who's an elite shortstop, defensive shortstop, and then he got the number one pick, who could be Rock Chalowski, who's an elite shortstop himself.

So they've got some assets to play with here, and it'll be really interesting to see what they do if all these guys turn out, I mean being able to Carson, I have a long way to go, obviously, and so does Bonhamber still, but Montgomery's up and Rock is as ready made a major league player as there is in college baseball as we've seen in a long time.

So it's gonna be really really interesting to see what happens here.

So let's move down this list here.

Next guy is you're one of your favorite players.

I know, darren A, You're you are the stand for him Ethan Holiday.

We have number four, which I think is pretty high for third base here.

Do you think he should be higher?

I mean I do because he's, uh, he's gonna be a third baseman, which is like, we don't even know if Walks be a third baseman, but definitely not South Stewart.

So I think I think you gotta keep walk out above him.

Obviously.

I think that's kind of obvious.

Trying to cut down my use of the word obvious, it can sound kind of lazier pretensions, maybe a combination, and so Bonnimer is kind of like a close call.

It's close, but Bonnemer is getting it done.

So give Bonimber the crown, make Holiday earn it.

I'd have him at three, and I wouldn't have Stewart on my list just because for that the reason of eligibility.

I just don't see any path to the third base.

Uh don't they still have Oh gosh, the really good guy from Pittsburgh whose name is out of my mind right now.

They have the third Basement in Cincinnati already, the defensive specially Hayes.

Yeah, Cocka Hayes.

What's the rest of that name?

And I know this is the problem with you.

At least do first thing in the morning while I got my coffee.

Imagine doing podcasts.

Then I'd be electric.

So anyway, Uh point is, yeah, a holiday has a bad and I know a lot of people are not just you know, I had some heated debates with with our with f IPD rankings here.

Uh friendly, but heated, and it was it was it was passionate.

I loved it.

I had a lot of fun.

But I know that's not just a pl there.

I know that's like a lot of places, a lot of outlets, a lot of people, uh in the industry are really out on a holiday.

And it's just kind of crazy to me to take borderline give up on a teenager.

It's not like again, blood lines matter, right, It's it's not.

And that's one thing to say, if like, if he's just some prep kid who's like his stats don't jump off the page, if the scouting reports or whatever, and all we're going off of is the name that that doesn't make sense.

Yeah, that sometimes it just doesn't work out.

But when you have a kid who's like already the top Pratt bros.

Bag Like, it's just you know, he's he's looking bigger and stronger than Jackson, who's slowly but surely carving out a really solid career in the bigs and you know, could still have startum, I mean, could easily have stardom in his future.

So now you have a father who's very accomplis and like a really a hitting guru.

You have a brother who's who's really getting there.

And actually it's like one thing for Matt.

It's interesting.

I'm just having this thought right now.

It's one thing for Matt to have his you know what, the way he knows the game, but the game's changed, right and and and not just the game, but the world social media, like how you're how you're perceived, you know, on your journey up, your highs and your lows.

And we know Jackson's had some really cold slumps.

Can't imagine what he saw on social media, probably a lot of garbage.

Keeping keep that in mindfolksause people are human beings.

I like to bring that back.

And so if and when you know, I'm sure a lot of people are gonna see that in Ethan's future with the Rockies with already like you know, some hit two questions.

Yeah, I would be shocked to see some strikeouts along the way, some ophers along the way.

How is he gonna handle that?

Well, now he can reach out to his brother who went through it like two days ago, you know, or maybe people'll be going through it at the same time.

So I just I think it's these are just the little things where you won't see that on the stat sheet.

He's gonna be able to go home even if the Rockies try to mess him up, you know, maybe unintentioned, but let's just say they do their best to do the Rocky way of not of not developing beast properly.

But I think he's gonna have a great security net.

I think you're looking at a thirty plus home run batt yearly.

I think he's gonna have fine ratios.

He's gonna take a lot of walks.

I think I think it's a Matt Olsoen profile.

All right, you heard it here first Ethan Holiday.

I mean, yes, definitely concerning his debut, not not great at all, but you don't write a player off of this caliber just based on a small sample like that.

So and we'll see what this new regime does, this new regime in Colorado, uh, to see what they can do with some hitting and pitching development.

Obviously they're they're they everything's new, So we're gonna have to see how some of these prospects developed.

All let's move our way down here.

Jacob Rimer is the kind of the guy we alluded to, who's Who's that kind of underrated prospect that kind of not a lot of people know about because the Mets are they have a deep farm.

The Mets really do have a deep farm, and Rhymer is just another one of those players.

Is that it is just a solid bat and uh, solid third base of the future possibly for them.

Yeah.

Sorry, you actually brought him up before as you were like, no, I dropped the baller.

I got too passionate with Ethan, So I'll keep it a little short here.

But it's kind of funny, right, it's a New York market.

I know it's not the Yankees, but he's New York market prospect and still not getting too much shine.

I'll give give some respect to Scout the stat line.

That's how I first heard about him a few like, I think it was at least two years ago.

Now, you know which is they've got a strong partnership slash almost fusion with Prospect Live.

It's, you know, just both two great brands and so Ryan or Yeah, he's got the power, he's got a little speed.

How's the efficiency?

His efficiency is fine, but mostly you're looking at his hit tool here, right, he just delivered a two eighty two, three, seventy nine, four ninety one if you want to go to the triple slash in its entirety, and then seventeen home runs eighty and you know, you know, maybe maybe you don't care about these numbers and the miners, maybe you shouldn't really care about it that much, but eighty eight runs seventy seven RBIs It's like, Okay, he's like a dude.

He's out there generating offense.

It still matters.

So I think that matters a little bit more than others perhaps, but it's more of like a cherry on top, So i'd say rhymer.

Yeah, like that's someone where he just seems like his brand name value if you're trying to get him, if you're trying to, you know, get a deal for him, or you're trying to trade for him.

It'll be easier to trade for him, harder to sell him than any of the names we've mentioned so far, by far when he could like realistically, like this could be this guy could easily be better than Sal Stewart, Like they're probably more similar than the other guys here.

But maybe maybe if Bonhamber's speed drops off, you know, Rhymer could beat him too.

I think Holiday is just a different kind of player.

But anyway, Rhymer is a dark horse and I think he's worth checking out.

And maybe if if as long as the GM is not a not a Mets fan, then you can probably get a decent deal.

Yeah, I'm not sure he's crept into too many top one hundreds, but I think the moment that I think that people are going to realize it and value him a little bit better.

But yeah, now is the time for sure, before he breaks out this season.

Let's finish off this list here.

If you want to say anything about any of these guys.

Gavin fieen Uh Andrew Fisher two draftees from this past Draftman Will loop In, zab and ires at the bottom.

So three three draft bees, and then Cam Caller who's been around femilling forever it seems like, but he's still fairly young.

And then Alex Freeland, who is kind of blocked by the Dodgers.

So give me a few quick thoughts on each of these guys.

Yeah, I'll be going a little bit too in depth on some of these, so keep it brief.

It's tough to make heart hard and fast judgments with some of these guys, like either way, but you know some people, uh I say it Fien Fien is he?

So?

Is he now on the Red Sox in the.

Trade right or the National Texas No?

But yes, yes trade.

Sorry my brain went, I tell you I'm tired.

But I was like, was like Northeast red Low I picked I picked up on it correct myself anyway.

So yeah, I would have liked a little bit more in Texas because you know, I like through for the Texas Rangers a little bit.

But uh now it's it's good.

I mean, this is a system where there's kind of an interesting youth movement.

We'll see what happens with him, And I just don't know enough about him to have like really firm judgments either way, it will be interesting because you could see, like Eli Willitts take Ris in a second, and then you know, maybe you have being here at third.

Andrew Fisher is a guy who really is flying up FYPD boards.

It's great.

What first of all, shows a lot of faith that they're putting him in at high eight and then he crushes it.

Eight home runs sorryn eight soulen bases and you know Jackson home run up in nineteen games, got some pretty decent ratios, good back to the Baseball Card numbers.

So yeah, keep it one on that contact rate.

But yeah, Fisher is someone who the values skyrocketing rapidly and then call yea yeah he's like this.

It's so weird, man.

I was I was actually gonna put him as my as myself because I've never really bought in on the hype because I guess I'm just like, what's he gonna be?

I don't know.

He's like, I think he got drafted as a I got seventeen years old in a day or something like.

It was freakishly young, like cause he's yeah, so he seems like he's been around for forever.

He is now he actually finally is twenty one years old, and it was weird.

I did notice that he dropped off, didn't you drop off in power this year?

Yeah?

He went from twenty home runs at high eight in twenty twenty four to just four last year.

I don't know if he was hurt or not, but I think his hit tools in question at one point kind of.

But no, it's I don't know he's doing.

He's doing what you want to see.

He's he's he's gonna have be a good hitter.

It looks like the speed's not really there.

I'm just I'm curious.

I don't know what to make him.

How do you go from twenty to four?

Was he hurt?

Do you know that only three hundred and ninety six played appearances, so still not a full season, only ninety five games?

Yeah?

Still still yeah, that's almost like that's not that that's like one hundred pas less than the year he got a twenty home runs.

The pace was way different, So we'll see anyway.

Yeah, he's just I don't know what to do with him.

But he's still in the Reds organization.

Yeah, so he's going to be, you know, someone who benefits from a great Ballpark if he makes it up there without getting traded Foreland.

Kind of like this situation of just I don't know what's going to happen with you, sir.

Yeah, I think it's I think it's possible he could get running with the Dodgers, but Michael Bush will tell you it could take a while, right, And so I'm just in a weird spot where I love their development.

I think he's an interesting player, but how consistent will the playing time be?

If you get in the lineup, it's like really high reward.

If you get Michael Bush, it's high risk.

And the Indians.

Yeah, another guy who's just like a lot of I've seen like a lot of different results actually with him.

I think I've seen him go into the second round of thirty teamers and so for FYPDS.

But then I've also seen him go in the top twenty and you know, I think maybe fifteenth overall, Like he's within that range.

So I don't know too much about him.

Maybe you want to speak more on him than I do.

I just he's not a guy who jumped off.

There's always someone who likes him more than me, So how about you sell them well with him?

Tremendous power.

I think he had in his class.

For the high schoolers, he had the highest max ev it was over one hundred and twenty miles an hour.

I got to watch him in the high school home renderby two years ago in Dallas and he was launching, I mean with limin a bat.

He was launching balls into the upper deck in Texas and it was just amazing to watch.

He's like your traditional I mean, he's listed as a shortstop draft at a short stop, but to me, it's a third baseman, just that slugger type.

It's going to be the contact that really needs to come.

But we haven't seen the debut yet, so it'll be interesting to see what happens this year.

But he's gonna hit some bombs.

I think that's the thing that I think that's the problem.

I think my brain subconsciously went over him because it's name.

He like, it looks like an alien's name, Xaverians Like, it's just like it just I don't know, there's something about the way it looks.

Look at him.

I'm like, Okay, I guess so it's.

So.

I mean, you got some you got some different profiles in this grouping of ten here, and we'll kind of sum it up with this.

And some of these guys are just all out sluggers, and you're going to get the low batting average and the high home run numbers, which is traditionally what you get at their base.

Then you have some of the other guys like Alex Freeland.

He's kind of a combination speed power type guy.

He might hit in the teens in both in his peak projection fifteen home runs, seventeen stone bases and then and then walkasts.

Kind of that kind of profile as well.

Tremendous bat speed, but how many home runs is going to hit?

So you have to think about how you're going to build your team here and again, things change so quickly in the prospect world, especially with position eligibility.

You mentioned Stuart he may he may have may never play another game at their base in his life.

Yeah, quite honestly.

So, he just he happened to be only eligible third, which is why I put him on this list.

So anyways, an interesting group.

Nonetheless, some some guys that could really help your team in the future.

Though I think here, especially at the top, and this list will look very different this time next year.

Guys it's like hard to make, like you know, ranks with them as of right now.

Definitely, definitely, who do you see as the number one overall third base prospect?

And by this time next year if you were to look.

At this list, so I think that everyone's still going to be a prospect.

I mean, there's a crazy chance walking I don't think Walk up graduates.

Just it's so funny.

I just like my brain is like, now, he's gonna be up this year, But then I see his age, I'm like, maybe not.

I guess he's probably ready.

By this time next year, it's gonna be Stewart will graduate.

I think it's gonna be either Hold, it's gonna be if Walcott is still in the miners and eligible, It's gotta be Walcott.

It has to be, assuming he's That's my biggest thing is is he gonna be third base or are they gonna be ready to move on?

And shifts Seager over.

So in terms of like technical this list with these names, the number one prospect on this list has to be Walcott if he's got eligibility, if he for some reason is up like Seegers out and the team's doing well, like yeah, it's this crazy situation, right, he's ripping it up.

It's like June first seekers out for the season, which wouldn't be shocking.

Seems like a great guy, but just keeps doing that kind of thing.

If Walcott comes up and crushes and helps the Rangers and loses eligibility, it'd be very interesting to see if it's Bondher or Holiday.

I think it's a non zero chance that Holiday.

I think all Holiday would have to do it just covers hit twenty home runs next year, and I think his name the name brand with results of like hitting thirty all these to do is hit thirty percent, strikeout rate or less, very low bar right, if you like walks it on, strikes out thirty percent, matches twenty bombs as a teenager, like he'll he'll be the number one.

He'll he'll jump over Bonhamber.

All right, we'll see, I see, all right.

We've got a couple of risers here to talk about.

A couple of names further down the list.

One Sanchez of the Toronto Blue Jay has had a really good DSL season, most likely at their basement, played some shortstop, but he moved up one hundred and thirty three spots to one ninety three on our most recent update, and Park's Harbor the San Francisco Giants moved up forty spots to three seventy one.

If you want to give me just some some cliff note U analysis on these.

Guys, Parks Harbor is a is a fantastic name of some people who were draft.

I've been in some extremely deep drafts recently, and I know people were joking about that name there, Park's Harbor.

I want to see it as I don't really know anything about these two guys, and comple be honest with you.

This is what you get with Doc.

Like I did DSL kids, I stick out of it.

There's a if I have, I try to get rid of my international DSL picks in my in one thirty teamer that has a separate draft.

I'm just like it's listen, prep kids are hard enough, but at least they've already been in the system and they've got a lot more scouting.

There's but more looks specistically speaking, as hard as easier to predict it than anything else.

And so with with him, in particular with DSL guys, I don't really have too many things straight up.

So as far as Sanchez goes, the bad of ball data was very very good from all accounts.

Hits the ball really really hard.

Again, this is the type of body that's gonna move over to third base in the in the narature and creature before he reaches the major league.

This is a third baseman.

So interesting season.

Not a lot of guys in the Blue Jays farm system like him, so he kind of stands out a little bit.

And then as far as Parks Harbor go, he's kind of a pop up guy from this past season for or the Giant Ants.

A little bit older.

He's twenty five, I believe at this point twenty four.

Still turns twenty five at the end of the season.

Kind of a corner profile first base, third base, but very good numbers.

He hit three twenty three this past season with the Yankees and the Giants.

I came over via trade at the trade deadline.

Really good profile as far as being able to walk and put the ball in play.

Not a slugged by any means, so at a corner that you kind of lose a little bit there, but a good bat to ball guy.

Kind of like a maybe like a Ryan O'Hearn type bat if I could compare to a name that just comes off the top of my head.

There so rising up our list though nonetheless, and somebody should be thinking about in a league with four hundred prospects or less for sure.

All Right, a couple followers here, Davis and Della Santos.

We'll kind of skip over him a little bit because you're going to talk about him in your cell version here.

But he dropped one hundred and five spots down to three ninety one.

He was near our top one hundred at one point when he hit the forty home runs.

It's just a very very interesting profile.

But again we'll get into those.

But Mike You Romero, the Red Sox dropped forty seven spots to three thirty seven.

He's he's a little bit polarizing as well as a Red Sox prospect.

He's been on a lot of top lists.

Do you have any opinions on Mike You Romero.

Mike You Romero, here's the thing, and I think this is what I'm realizing, Like, why am I like kind of there's more black holes here on my third base world.

I think again, this happens for two reasons.

One, if in general, people aren't like like other people aren't really familiar with Jacob Rimer as a brand name.

I think it's just indicates that there's not a lot of flashy prospects and you're easier easier to look over.

But then also think about who some of the guys who I've like Champion, right, I've been the biggest make cal Garcia fan.

I've been the biggest Caleb Durbin fan.

I mean hus Brock Wilkin fan, which we'll talk out talk about later, like my third base, Like I'm setting like every Dynasty league because I got in on these guys at the ground level.

So I'm like, yeah, I guess I'm probably overlooking a couple of these prospects.

And so thank you for I guess I picked it, but thank you for letting me do do this one.

So looking at Romero real quick, Yeah, this is a guy who So he's falling.

I mean, what's the reason behind that.

I guess his OBP is horrific.

Yeah, I mean that's the end of the day.

If you're not if you're if you have a terrible walk rate like that, you can't get over the strikeouts.

So yeah, I guess it's a good.

This is a guy who is probably good for me to not really be paying too much attention to it.

Seems like this has been a problem for a while.

So yeah, I typically if a guy just had a really bad walk rate, I played so many OVPPS leagues that is, it's hard for me to get over it.

Yeah, I mean, he's got a little bit of pop, but as you mentioned, the approaches is pretty I mean in triple A at a thirty percent striker range just a five percent walk great, so below a three hundred OBP.

It was his first taste of it, obviously, but not great.

The numbers were better in double A, but still just a three fifteen OBP.

So I was a twenty one year old in double A.

So I think for good reason he moved down a little bit.

Let's get into your bile.

Let's be a little more positive now.

And brock Wilkin, you mentioned as you're bye, why do you think people should be taking a look at him as someone they want to try and acquire for the Dynasty team.

Yeah, I just think that, uh, I think that brock Wilkin is is mister remember that old meme.

If you're old enough to remember, you know, real meme origin stories.

You remember bad Luck Brian.

There's a picture of this, you know, redheaded kid with the braces.

Uh, he kind of a funny high school yearbook picture.

Well, so far this is bad look bad luck Brock and he's just it's been tough.

So he came in with freakish, hulking body six four two thirty, just ripped that real like closed stance, that kind of hunches over like he's just he just looks like he's out of a video game almost.

And then he got smashed in the face with a heater, broke a bunch of bones in his face.

He's since spoken about how like that affected his his vision.

His vision was a little bit blurred after that that I'm like, okay, that doesn't seem good for baseball.

And then and frankly, the confidence thing again, this is like you're not seeing this in the stat sheet, there's no confidence meter, but in Saban, you know.

But he admitted he was kind of worried about is this one going to hit me?

Is this one going to hit me?

Like you can't be thinking like that.

You have to be able to attack.

And this is a guy who maybe his biggest weakness right now is passed it right, not swinging enough so and then of course this last year he was celebrating I think they won, like they won their championship or something, and he was they were doing in the minor leagues and he was just jumping around and he dislocated his kneecap and missed like eight eight weeks.

And I think he was just starting to get really on a hot streak too.

He had a pretty good year last year.

I think he cracked twenty without even looking at his page.

He had a really good year at a lot of very high walk rates OBP.

The contact rates are actually acceptable.

It's not like he has It's not like a Spencer Jones, folks.

This is not like a fifty or sixty percent contact rate.

The k rates are fine that he's gonna make it.

It's just a matter of are you getting Max Muncie or can there be something more?

But frankly, if Max Muncie is sort of your floor, like that's a good place to be in, especially I mean if you're in a batting average league, maybe not.

But OBP and OPS leagues, brock Wilkin is a by low right now.

He's going to be a beast, like there's possibly a forty year, forty home run year in his career.

Yeah, I think I think Monty is probably a pretty good camp for him.

He's definitely got the power that months he has and obviously walks at a high rate.

Monthy is one of those borderline passive hitters as well.

He just knows the strike zone real real well.

And uh, and we'll see if Wilkin can can become I mean, that would be a huge win for the Brewers if they could have a Max Monty type outcome of Rock Wilkin for sure, So we'll see if can get there.

We'll see if he sticks that third with with with you know, the similarly Hulkan Caleb Durbin not a foot shorter, but just as Jack.

That would be hilarious.

These guys in position bottle right next to each other, Like yeah, but like seriously, that could have stry to cut you off.

But that could happen.

Like who's gonna win?

I don't know.

I don't know.

Like Caleb Durbin's obviously got it done so far, so we'll see.

He might end up having to shift over to Wilkin might end up a first or or designated hitter.

We'll see, all right, your dynasty Sala.

We've already said it's Davison Della Santos.

Why should people be moving off him?

Yeah?

Again, I'm not like he's still relatively young.

I don't want to completely give up on him, but I feel like there's still a point, like there's still a bit of fumes here.

You might be able to sell on some people who really who remember that was it forty home runs he hit one year in minor league baseball is twenty twenty four, I think, And so he just, yeah, that was that was probably the real time to sell, But he just hasn't been able to get it done.

He's probably not gonna take any walks.

I can't help but think of like John Kenski Noel, like this kind of profile of like freakish power, but will it be enough?

And so he's still young enough though, where there's time to make adjustments to probably get an opportunity with the Marlins.

I think you know there's a league that there's a league where I took over him, sorry, I took over a team with him on the on the farm.

It's just deep enough where it's like I can't really sell him right now.

I don't think the value is where I want it to be at.

But wait for him to maybe heat up again, go on the you know, home run spree, make some headlines, get a viral tweet behind him, and then when he gets called up, so or maybe comes up.

And if you wait till after he comes up, it might be rough.

But remember Noel came up and I think he was hitting some bombs off, you know, it seems like there might be something there and then not really, So I think the future.

Unfortunately, my prediction is ophe I'm wrong, but my prediction is he's gonna have a similar outcome.

Yeah, I think.

I think once he gets the call, that is the moment to act for sure, if you still ruster him somewhere.

All right, a couple of sleepers to close us out, I'll start with mine.

I've talked about this guy a couple of times, but lou James Groover is the guy I want to talk about.

I was just really impressed when I got to see him this summer six two to twelve second round pick out of NC State from a few years ago, he played the entire season in Double A this past year, five hundred and forty seven played appearances, hit three on nine, three ninety nine, four thirty four in the Texas League, which is fairly offensive, but nonetheless three hundred hitter, just twelve home runs in three stolen bases, So those numbers are not they do not stand out for sure, But he was a one twenty two WRC plus.

He is.

He's patient at the plate and again one of those guys that could be considered borderline pass a forty one percent swing rate you want to be kind of in the mid forties as far as most of most of the top hitters are in that range.

But he's a very This is a high floor play for sure.

This is not a guy that's going to have a super high upside, but good contact grades eighty four percent, zone eighty percent overall he does.

Again, he doesn't not the pop.

The one twenty six is so kind of stands out a little bit.

He's not gonna hit a ton of home runs, but I think I think there's more power there so he I got to see him hit a home run this summer and it was it was just an easy swing.

He's got a very simple operation.

There's not a lot of extra movement it's just hands to ball and the left field and the little rock here is deep, so you really got to touch it to put it out, and he just hit it on the barrel and it went way out, actually went kind of over to the parking lot area, which is quite impressive to me because you don't see a lot of home runs hit that far, and I just think there's more of that in there, and especially if he's more aggressive.

So I think if he attacks a little bit more and hits his pitch, I think there's possibly twenty twenty home run pop because he does do damage when he puts contact on it.

So the three seventy eight Wilbacon this past year, it's a little more aggression I think could help him.

And again he's just solid.

He's just a solid battle the way across, good contact rate's not going to give up a lot of outs with the strikeout high strikeout rate.

He's below twenty percent, So solid, solid floor play here for sure.

We'll give one, will say, real quick, I typically give an ALC Burlson comp to like these eighteen to twenty three awkward pop guys that this is not even that this.

I got a good former cardinal camp for you with Gino formerly Gino Groover.

He's Brendan Donovan.

Maybe not in terms of his real life play, but you look at his stalla.

I had to go cross check it real quick.

I'm like, yeah, that's exactly.

They both don't really strike out, you know, they'll take a good amount of walks.

Yeah, you might get twelve home runs, you might get I think the peak for him is looking like fifteen home runs for Lou James.

But yeah, I think he's gonna be a major leaguer for years to come.

Yeah, I agree, I agree.

All right, finish this off with your sleeper for Dynasty third base prospects.

Yeah, so, I don't you know, I don't really know if Josh Hammon's a real sleeper sleeper if you're an FYPD guy, if you're a thirty team, you know, kind of not maybe not, maybe not such a sleeper.

But still I think it's possible that he could end up being a top ten third base prospect by this time next to your Heck, like, looking at all the young talent there ahead of him, it's like he could be a top five guy if things go completely according to plan.

But this is a guy who's a former two way player.

So when these guys out of high school especially and they're like, okay, I'm not half one hundred percent of my time was allocated to two different things, right, it's fifty fifty percent.

Now you can put all your hours of your day, you can, or at least whenever you're training into one thing.

It's you're gonna get better.

There's guaranteed improvements are on the way.

And he's already at pretty good frame I think like sixty one sixty two, two hundred and ten pounds and apparently he's kind of looking leaned up there like he was playing shortstop in high school.

Uh so this is interesting.

He's not gonna play short stop if he makes it to Kansas City because there's this guy named Bobby Wood Junior.

I will be interesting to see what happens because MIKEL.

Garcia has won a Gold Glove at third base, but you have this guy with a Canada of an arm used to be a pitcher.

So if Himan can be anything like close to acceptable at third base in terms of like at least I would I would say close enough to a gold Glove.

I don't sure how close you're gonna get but you know, be good enough, but probably stick him at third and then make Kel who's a bit more of a lean build.

I could see him shifting back to second base.

Just a crazy powerful like defensive alignment there.

Really really really nice for Kansas City if that works out, long road ahead for him, and but I think there's gonna be a good twenty plus one one pop.

And yeah, it's something I was thinking about.

You know, there's nothing here that says he can't run.

If he's got that build, if he is kind of he's got a real shortstop build, then maybe we see ten fifteen, twenty or sorry stolen bases.

It's like, maybe there's this Niaki twenty five twenty profile here.

We just don't know about it yet.

We'll see that's kind of a sleeper because we don't know the ratios.

And I'll throw in one last, very quick one is Cole Mathis's.

He was drafted as a third baseman again, former two way player, right and then he had TJ, so they haven't really been playing him a third at all.

He's been a dh They're not gonna bring him up through the miners as a DHK.

Guys like they're gonna try to make him on some kind of defensive position.

He saw a lot of play at first base.

The only reason he's worth mentioning here is that Arizona Fall League, which you know more time has passed since is his operation, and in his recovery he started getting more reps at third base again.

They threw those in there for the first time in his minor league career.

I'm like, okay, it's popping back up.

So it kind of a funny arc right where he maybe, as you talked about the arc earlier, which is ninety percent of the time correct, this would be a weird like zombie arc where it's back from the grave.

He's a third basement after all.

So keep an eye on col Mathis because that's a that's an interesting one.

You get again, you got these former pitchers.

They're gonna have the cannon, which is critical to make those throws at third base.

Chicago Cubs, if you didn't know about him second round.

Pick, good shout there.

Yeah, it's good to know about those injury situations where I mean Johnny Farmelo is an example of this, where he had his surgery or he had his injury recovery his hamstring injury.

I believe it was.

And he didn't run, didn't run at all.

And if you don't know those things that you don't know, and you don't know the the Tommy John thing.

He was out, but why was he out?

He was out Tommy John.

They're not gonna have them throwing.

So those are little tidbits to understand and know, and maybe you can take advantage of that in your dinasty league.

So good, shut there, all, right, give me some kind of overriding, overarching thoughts on this position, this prospect, third base landscape.

Yeah, and of the prospects, it's kind of wide open.

Like I don't necessarily agree with these ranks.

I'd have them a little bit different, but yeah, I think what that means is they're not set in stone, Like there is a lot of room, a lot of young guys, a lot of first year player draft names here, so we're probably gonna look at something really different next year.

There's room for pop ups to keep popping up.

And so I'd say, if you missed out on the walk OTTs, Bonhimber Stewart's not their basement.

Million times Ethan Holidays and even the Rhymers like go ahead and pursue these other names we've talked about here today, because it's it's it's this lack of knowing that's preventing them from rising up.

That was Caleb Bonnimer last year.

We just didn't know yet.

Yeah, there's risks, you can go the other way with it, but Mike, I think you can get at least one of these names here in our top ten, top fifteen for a decent price, especially you know, the shallot of the league even easier to get.

But you know, yes, they might not work out, Yes it could take some time, but Caleb Bonnemer cost you nothing.

You could get him for free in almost every league.

Last year in my thirty team drafts, he was going like around three or four.

So that was pretty late, and so in shallow re formats you can just enhance that.

So go ahead, knock on some doors, grab these guys, even if they already went your FIPD.

Go ahead and see what they're offering them for.

Because again, if you believe in them, you let their profiles are things to play on the team that you watch, because that's a big part of just we don't talk about it, but playing fantasy baseball should be fun.

But if you just like these players, go after them now, they may just go up from here.

Awesome, all right, Darren?

Where can people find your work?

Gosh, I guess this.

I guess this live doing fantastic stuff.

I'm trying to slowly but surely tweet a little bit more.

I've been people will keep asking me to do mox.

I was doing a mock with you on Roto World, NBC's Roto World, and I've been invited to Scott White and the crew over at CBS.

They like to have me on for mock drafts.

So this off season you'll probably see me popping up and around, but always happy to just yeah, come over to X That's where that's where the majority of my fantasy baseball content will be found.

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