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Okay, Now, I am so excited about our guest today because it's breaking news and it's all over the place.

We have Dan Feree.

Now, who this fellow is.

They're kind of describing him as the limo driver because he's got this FBI intake form that came out in the Jeffrey Epstein documents release where he's making some really really incredible allegations about Donald trumpin and Jeffrey Epstein in these documents.

Here.

So we have the document pulled up and we have mister Dan Feree on the line.

Dan, are you there, I'm here, sir, hot.

Great.

So, before we get into all your story about Trump and Epstein and some other names you mentioned, tell us about yourself.

Who is Dan Free?

Well, I'm really kind of a nobody to tell you the truth.

I had some really rough experiences starting very early in life.

My actual first childhood memory is an act of younger sibling jealousy.

Any of you that have more than one child know exactly what that's about.

I had an older sibling out of jealousy at about six and a half when I was six and a half seven months old, stand me on one side of a red hot floor furnace great and beckon me out onto it.

Third degree burns in this kind of crossboard checkerboard pattern on the bottom the boats pete, some of them to the bone, which of course made me not want to walk anymore for several years.

But then, oh, it wasn't long after that that same sibling, pulling me in a wagon because I didn't want to walk, yanked me off of a tall curb.

When I went flying out onto the pavement, got skimmed up.

And a couple of years later, about two and a half years old, I had a cousin that was about a year older than me out of She was already suffering from younger sibling jealousy because there was a newborn in the house and I was sent to stay with them while my mother was confined to a tuberculosis ward.

Then all of a sudden, there's this new little kid there.

She got me walking again, and then she got me playing chase with her and pushed me onto a garden rake where it hit me right above the right eye and the blood flowed down across my face and I screamed and yelled and anyway, by the time I was two and a half years old, I had full blown early childhood on set PTSD and the anxiety that came with that.

When I was twelve years old, I discovered that if I took a couple of little SIPs of Core's beer that the anxiety that I suffered from relaxed.

And I'm talking little tiny SIPs, which was man.

I hated the taste of that stuff.

That I kept this can of Coors Beer stashed in the bushes out around our house, and whenever I can get out there to take a couple of little chips of it, I'd go out there and do that.

Heck, one can of beer would last me two or three weeks.

You know.

It wasn't like I was turning into an alcoholic at twelve years old, but that did progress, and I did develop issues with drinking alcohol.

And I never did get into doing hard drugs, you know, of any type really, I tried good grief, probably all of them, but you never had any use for it anyway.

Well, let me ask you this, what about like your employment history?

Well, when I was twenty five years old, I developed an aneurism been bothering me since high school on the femoral artery in my right leg, and it bulged out and filled my lower right arterial system with blood clots and I had extreme deep vein thrombosis.

And from that point on I didn't have medical insurance.

And from that point on I would end up switching jobs every couple of years when bill collectors caught up with me, and they would either law firms or whatever would sell the paper the bills to another firm or another lawyer within the same firm so that they could keep it active and not let the statute of limitations run out.

It was over twenty five thousand dollars worth of bills, and as soon as I would get a garnishment, I'd start looking for a new job.

So I was bouncing around job to job every two to three years pretty much pretty much my whole life.

People who think of you now, they think of you as they describe you as the limo driver.

Is that what you did for the majority of your career.

No, I actually only did that for a total of about what from I believe it was August of nineteen ninety three until the end of May.

I'm almost positive it was the end of May of nineteen ninety five.

I actually got that job as it was kind of a fluke.

I was out looking for a job.

I had moved to Irving, Texas with my wife, and I had been out looking for a job and I noticed this sign for this limousine company in Uless.

No.

Not Ulis Grapevine, Texas blue Chip limousine, and I'd seen their advertisement looking for chauffeurs.

As I went by, I went, oh, wow, that was that place advertised.

I'm going to go in there and see if i can catch a peek at some of the cars.

I'd never been in a limousine before in my life.

I walked in and it was a small office with the garage where they parked the cars back in the back part of the building.

Let's not get too off offer of austreamia and also to the personal one.

How many times you've been married, how many kids?

I've been married three times.

I don't have any children from those marriages.

Jeremiah my Son with cheryld slash she hand slash grass as the result of a one time encounter on Christmas Day of nineteen ninety seven, after I had given her a ride to go see her father who had just had his leg amputated.

We got back to where she was living staying, and one thing led to another, and she was beautiful, beautiful lady.

And I had no we had always just been friends before that.

I had met her in nineteen eighty nine.

Wait, Dan, just to be cleared.

This was on the way home from the hospital after her.

Leg was so this is this is when we got back back to where she was living.

I'm sorry, man, I'm sorry.

That'd be a trick.

Sorry, bro Okay, I said marriage I learned after my first marriage.

But I said, you made twice as many mistakes as made.

Let me ask you a question to me back then, was one of my coping mechanisms to deal with the PTSD and anxiety?

Right right?

That is that's true.

You hear that.

You hear that.

Let me take you down to ten twenty seven, nineteen twenty at three twenty in the afternoon, something inspired you on that day to call the FBI tip line.

What was it about that day that made you say, Hey, I gotta tell the FBI this story?

What did I what date?

What date did you say?

Ten twenty seven, twenty twenty Oh.

Okay, I just understood what I said.

Wow, And it was three twenty in the afternoon.

So what was it that David said to you, Hey, I got to call the FBI.

Well, actually, I thought about it for quite a while before that, right.

I met Gillenne Maxwell at Cheryl's house in twenty sixteen.

I was somewhat homeless at the time.

I had a full sized van.

I was living in it.

The inside of the van I hed fixed up really really nice.

The outside of it looked like an old beater work van, which was fine with me, and I didn't care what the outside looked at looked like.

And anyway, I was living in that van.

I had a parked in front of one of the houses that Cheryl OANs.

And what city was this in twenty sixteen.

Well, it's in Tulsa, Oklahoma.

It's a Tulta address, but the houses are actually in a little tiny leg of o Sage County there, so they're actually located in Osage County.

But anyway, I'm inside the house, in the bathroom actually, and I hear Sheryl calling for me.

And I walked into the living room and there stands this lady, kind of short, dark hair, nice looking lady.

And she says, Danny.

She started calling me Danny when our son was born, the whole different issue.

She says, Danny, this is Glean, Glean, this is Danny.

This is Jeremiah's father.

And I said, oh, pleased to meet, and stuck my hand out to shake her hand, and she gleaned goes, oh, I don't want to shake your hand.

I just wanted to see who's living in my houses.

And I said, well, I'm not actually living in the house.

She goes, are you taking a dump here?

I said, well, yeah, then you're living here.

I was like, whatever, lady, and I turned around and walked off, went back to the bathroom.

And I didn't know what was she actually the owner of that property?

Was she collecting rent there?

Do you have any information on it?

No?

Found out, Oh, I guess in late twenty twenty that those houses were actually purchased by Donald John Trump.

Cheryl called me when she saw my first post about all of this on Facebook, threatening to kill me and whatnot.

And she says, did you know he bought us through three houses?

And I didn't really understand what she said, and I said, bought who three houses?

And she didn't say a word.

I think she realized she had just screwed up.

Wait, So the theory here is the Trump bought the houses and then deeded them over to her, or he gave her the money to purchase the house.

Well, the money was laundered through Galeen Maxwell somehow, and then through the husband's concrete company that he ran.

He would fill out bids.

He actually kind of bragged about this to me while I was staying over there sixteen in my van.

He said, Yeah, that's the weirdest thing.

I filled out these bids for these places and and we don't ever even do the work, and I get paid in full on him.

I don't think he even realized what was going on at that time.

But if we were to trace back a paper trail on those properties, they would trace back to a concrete company owner in Tulsa, Oklahoma.

I'm guessing that's accurate.

Yees, okay, And you believe that money was funneled through through him by by Trump and Maxwell.

Yes, got you, okay.

Now fast forward.

I first saw the news learned of Gallen Maxwell being associated to Donald Trump and Jeffrey Epstein.

I'm pretty sure it was January of twenty twenty, and that's when I knew, beyond any absolute reason of a doubt that everything Donald Trump had said while I was driving him to the airport at the end of May of nineteen ninety five, and everything that Dusty had told me herself on Christmas Eve of nineteen ninety nine, was absolutely true.

And I was devastated.

I really was.

I never actually knew for sure that all of that was absolutely true because I had been lied to so many times by everybody in the Duke Tramp, including my own son.

Except for Dusty.

I had never known her to lie to me.

And I struggled with that for several months, and I finally I've got to call the FBI.

I've got to report this.

This guy not only raped a little girl that I considered to be my own, even though she wasn't my own blood, you know, I considered her to be my own.

Her and her two little sisters, all three of them.

What was it about that day though, that inspired you to pick up the phone called the FBI.

Just just wanting Donald John Trump to be held accountable for having raped Dusty and then subsequently, I believe having her murder.

Donald Trump I don't think actually has the stones to do such thing.

I don't know.

He might, I mean, golly, he might.

I don't know.

Now, when we move on further in this tip line, right, it talks about you driving Donald Trump.

Now, what year was that that you were driving Donald Trump?

That was I'm almost positive it was the end of May of nineteen ninety five.

It might have possibly been first part of June, but I'm reasonably sure it was the end of May nineteen ninety five.

Now, how would this work?

You were working for a limo company that would take the payments and then they would hire you they like you were on salary or I'm commission with Now with how would all that work?

Well, the service that I drove for at the time was run according to tax records.

It was just run under the man's name that owned it, and he catered to the wealthiest of the wealthy and the most powerful people on the planet.

I was actually recruited to go to work for him by a man who I had worked with that blue Chip limousine, and he said, you got he's from New York.

He says, he's done.

I ran into him at a venue somewhere where there were a bunch of limousine drivers livery service drivers, but done.

How's stut treating you?

I said, Oh, pretty good.

You know you ought to come to work where I work?

Now?

Oh yeah, why is that?

I said, oh, if you want to make some real money, you know.

He told me about it and sounded in resting.

So I went over and talked to him, and they hired me on the spot.

So I quit working for Blue Tip around Christmas time of nineteen ninety four and went to work for Wes Evans.

Ah, I was going to because you said man's name, I wrote it, that is man's name, but his name is Wes Evans.

Didn't You're going to give me his name?

Okay?

So if we were talked to Wes Evans today, what would he say?

Well, it'd be kind of hard because from what I understand, these DC's.

I have some listeners who claim they can speak to you might not be.

I don't know that.

I've been told.

You well, well, as you've been sharing the story public, is anybody contacted you and said, hey, Dan Farree, let me help you out and try and locate and vet your story and trying to doctum.

At this point, there's been actually quite a few.

Some of them were kind of how do I say this nice sleep flaky?

Yeah?

I didn't.

I didn't want anything to do with him.

But there's been there's been a couple that I've shared most of the details of the relationship between Donald Trump and myself.

Now, what about went back to West Sevens for a second.

Did he have a wife and kids?

Someone else he might have told the story to that he was dealing with Trump.

It seems like I remember him being married.

I'm pretty sure.

As far as kids, I don't know.

I really don't remember.

I only worked for the guy for six months, So yeah, got you.

How many how many times did you drive Trump or just the ones?

Okay?

And was Trump alone in the car or by himself?

And did he have been kind of security with him?

He was?

He was alone.

I had just dropped a client and the cell phone rang, which was unusual because back then, you know, they charged by the minute.

So we didn't.

We didn't actually use cell phones.

We had those big faced pagers that we used.

The cell phone rang I looked at and it was the office number showed up on it.

I picked it up.

Well, hey, this is what the dispatcher asked, said, have you dropped yet?

Meaning did I drop my client that I had?

And I said, yeah, I just did.

I'm on my way to the shop.

He goes, what car are you in and I said the Cadillac, saidan And he says, oh good, you don't have to come back and change cars.

This guy won't ride and afford.

And I'm like, okay.

He goes head towards head, towards that building down there behind the Masonic temple, you know where it is.

I said, well, you've been there, and I said, well yeah, I said, I'm not sure.

I remember I'm not from Dallas, you know, so I know.

Would you have the address?

Would you be able to come up with the address of that building.

I've searched Google Maps and what have you, and searched and searched and searched, have not been able to identify that building nor the Masonic temple that's set in front of it.

Okay, and I might be able to find it if I went down there and drove the streets, I might be able to I don't know.

But it was located roughly at the north east east corner of downtown Dallas proper.

The Masonic Temple was, and then the building that I picked him up from is a rear annex building kind of it's not physically attached to the Masonic Temple, but it sets right up next to it.

I've been told that there's some kind of a secret passage or something tunnel or something that connects them that I don't no, you know, So you pick.

Up from he says, he's going to the airport right DFW.

Well, first he comes out of this one little teeny tiny door on the kind of east side of our west side of that building, and he goes, are you done?

And I said yes, sir, And he comes walking over towards me, and I pulled the car door open, the passenger side, rear door, and he reaches up just boom, slams the door shut.

He says, I can open my own exploitive, exploitive explode door just getting in the exploitive exploitive car and drive and I'm like whoa, Wow, this guy's gotten attitude.

I'm thinking, you know, and I'm like, don't react, don't react, He's just having a bad day or something.

And I don't.

I don't know who the guy is at that point, I don't know who the guy is.

Well, then when did you learn who he was?

Uh?

What do he mean?

When did I learn who he was?

I knew his name was Donald Trump, but I didn't recall him from a previous encounter in life.

I had suppressed the memories during that period of my life from abuse that I had suffered.

I had suppressed those memories.

I greatly exasperating the childhood on set PTSD I suffered.

With Nick because me coming from New York.

You know, we were verse with Trump and what he looked like, what he sounded like.

He was on al those lifestyles that are rich and famous TV shows all the time.

You didn't.

You weren't exposed any of that.

No, I really wasn't.

I didn't know who the guy was.

Got you.

I worked most of the time.

I was just putting in and good grief, real long hours.

You weren't watching Robin Leech like I wasn't home back We're about the same age bros.

Okay, now what about them?

What then?

What was he saying in the BacT that that that caused you to attract your attention, that.

Got you up?

Well, I always tried to be very cordial with clients, and you know, I pretty much stuck to the oh the unwritten rule for chauffeurs don't speak unless spoken to that.

One of the things I always did was I said, you're going to d FW Airport, correct, And he goes, you don't know where you're going?

I said, well, I just wanted to verify, just you know, things get mixed up sometimes I don't want it just verifying.

Yeah, okay.

I started, the car, got underway, and you know, I could tell he was not not a happy guy.

I'll leave it at that.

And I could see him.

He's sitting right behind me.

He followed me around the back of that car, so close likely I actually see his left foot coming up behind my foot as I took a step.

Anyway, he gets in the back of the car, sitting directly behind me in this four door sedan.

And sorry about that if you heard that.

I live right now.

Anyway, And after we'd been underway a little bit, I said, so, how's your day, sir?

Good day, bad day?

Okay, I guess, I said, you mind if I ask what brings you to Dallas?

Business?

Pleasure, business always business done?

Mind ask what kind of what do you do?

What kind of work do you do?

He goes, I make lots of money?

And I, okay, I'm sorry.

I didn't mean to UPSat you, sir.

I'll just be quiet.

Real estate.

I do big real estate.

I said, oh cool, yeah, there's a lot of money in that.

I didn't say anything else for a little bit.

I said, so, do you have any aspirations and making a shock for the White House or anything?

Why would you ask me that?

I said, Oh, just driven several people away from that building into that building who had expressed that they were contemplating making a run for the presidency.

Like too, I said, well, I'm not privileged to discuss who else I've driven.

Oh hell no, too many damn people on the war on the Earth.

There are a lot of people.

He goes, maybe if I could get rid of about half of them by releasing a coronavirus or something.

And I was like, what's.

That you're trying to tell me?

That he was talking about the coronavirus back in nineteen ninety five.

Yes, sir, okay, Now when did he get to the part about him?

Well ahead, finish what your conversation was with Trump.

This must have been a remarkable conversation.

Man.

Well, I said, what's that?

What I said, coronavirus whatever?

Don't know what a coronavirus?

Is?

Not very smart, are you.

I didn't even respond to that.

I just I just shut up.

Yeah, and uh, hey, goes, I gotta get this and holds his phone up to his ear.

And back in those days, you know, they were about the size of a brick, And hey, what's up?

And I hear him going, jet jet Jeffrey, Jeffrey car jeff Cherry, shut that F word?

Uh you exclive?

Actually I raped her, I up the until she bled and made her like it.

What's this little G D C word's name?

Anyway?

And he Dusty, what kind of little seaword name is that?

Where's this little G seaword?

Find anyway?

Keeper?

What that e is?

A keeper?

Oh?

In Oklahoma?

Figures only seaward in Oklahoma.

And that was when I knew, beyond any reason of doubt he was talking about Dusty Ray Duke, the little girl that I had considered to be my own daughter from the age of about seven years old, I guess, and I began pulling that car over on the side of the highway, slipped it up in the neutrals, reached over and unlatched my briefcase and opened the top of it where my firearm was had already worked through the whole.

You know, if you kill this guy the state of Texas.

As I was pulling the car over, he pulls out a Cult Model nineteen eleven that was gold plated and starts waving it around and goes, that's all right, I'm armed.

And I went ahead and pulled the car over, and as I got it to a stop there on the side of Highway one fourteen on about the north side of Las Colinas, Texas, I reached up, grabbed the gearshift to throw it and park and grab that gun and exterminate him.

And some of you would hear this, will understand this.

An entity referred to commonly as the Holy Spirit came over me with you can't put your wife through this, and I kind of m and I still thought about it for a second or two, and I dropped the car back and drive and proceeded towards the FW airport and he starts waving that gun around in the air again, and I said, dude, that gun won't do you any good with me.

If you don't believe me, point it at me and pull the trigger.

What you want me to shoot you?

And I kind of yelled at him, I want you to try, because I want you to know who I am.

And he did.

He pointed it at me, started cocking it and pulling the trigger.

He probably did that eight or ten times.

And I'm kind of looking up at him, just shaking my head, still trying to focus on driving, you know, And I see him grab the slide of the gun and struggle to pull the slide back.

Honestly, I don't think he was strong enough to pull the slide back.

He either didn't know how to operate the gun to begin with, or it was a dud shell you know who knows.

Let me ask you a question about this goalplated gun.

Did you have you discussed this before on the internet that were.

That he had a goal play gun.

Yeah, but you've got to understand Mark Elliott Zuckerberg is a lover of money.

And we'll go to the links he has gone to of shunking my page, my profile page on Facebook and anything I would post about Donald Trump to where almost nobody sees it, you know, right for tax breaks, for tax breaks from Donald Trump.

Another question for you, did he have any luggage with him?

No?

No, my luggage?

Now okay, now, so now how did it end off with him at the airport?

Well, he was getting really really mad behind me, making kind of grunning noises and stuff.

And as we started to make the left turn down into DFW Airport, you could see his plane sitting over on the private plane tarmac there, which was located at the most northwest corner of DFW Airport back then.

And I guess when he saw that, you know, he relaxed.

And there was no way I was going to pull onto a private plane tarmat with some dude that had just tried to shoot me.

I'm not that stupid, you know.

And so I proceeded on south through the airport, and I'm pretty sure it was the American Airlines terminal.

It is the most southern terminal on the east side of the airport that you could access, and I pulled up around the clover leaf drive up to in front of the terminal, and as I'm stopping the car, I rolled the windows down and yelled at the top of my lungs get that f out, And everybody standing in front of the terminal turned and looked, and he got out, slammed door, walked over towards the terminal doors.

I proceeded to drive back to West Evans place of business that was located in Ulyss, Texas, and pulled the car in the garage and walked into the front office and dropped the keys on the desk and Bruce goes, you go on to lunch or something.

I said, no, I quit, just quit.

And I said, yeah, I'm done.

Man, I'm no more, not going to do this job anymore.

Why And I said, I'm not going to get into that.

He said, well, what happened with that Trump guy you drove?

I said, well, other than me coming within about a second of blowing his head off, I'm not going to get into that.

Why.

I said, I'm told you, I'm not going to get into it.

I said, I'm done, see and I walked out.

He called me the dispatcher did the next day mid morning or so, man, can you please come in and do this one more run, please, please please, I need you to make this, just this one more run for me.

Yeah, they want you to run out of the desert.

And I was like, no, I told you yesterday that I quit, and I was serious, I'm not going to do it.

I don't believe that's in my best interest.

Oh please, man, it'd be worth like a thousand dollars to me if you'll do this.

I said, nah, even more evidence I'm not going to do it.

I said, yeah, no, no, Bruce, I'm not going to do it, period.

And I hung out.

Let me ask you this now, between nineteen ninety five, when you had this incident, right you went home, did you tell your wife, your kids, and neighbor?

Did you tell anybody about this?

This incident with a gun and trumpet all this kind of stuff.

Well, when I went home, my wife had been somewhere.

I don't remember where she was, but she came home.

She say, how was your day?

I said, well, I had better ones.

I quit.

You did?

What said I quit?

Well?

Why?

I said, Well, I drove this guy and I I came within about a second of killing somebody.

I came with him about a second of shooting what who was it?

I said, some guy named Donald Trump.

You drove Donald Trump?

She knew he was right off the bat, she worked through.

Now is this that's right?

Is she still around?

Could we talk to her?

I'd rather you didn't, as I know.

But in order to corroborate your story in order to get this.

To get justice in a situation liking to me.

She doesn't have any knowledge of any of this as far as I know, And she's my age.

She's actually a year older than me, and she's had some rather severe health issues.

So no, but keep in mind, Dan Free, we're the same age just about you keep it sound like we're so old.

Objective, a little offended here, Dan, Okay, let me ask you this.

Now, what about did you go to the police here you had information?

Directed?

Well, I did call the Dallas Police Department and told them that Donald Trump had tried to shoot me, and they said, well, you need to fill out a report.

You can either come to the station or we can mail you one.

I was really, you're not going to send an officer out and said, well, no, not on something like this, since you know, since there was actually no actual physical damage done to you, did he hurt you in any way, And I said no.

But what about the part about the young lady that was assaulted?

What did they have to say about that?

They didn't want to follow up on that.

I didn't say anything to him about that.

Okay, Well, I didn't actually know at that point if it was true or not, or if it was some kind of a setup from my previous lifestyle.

For about three years after divorce from my second wife, I had built a Harley and it was a beautiful motorcycle.

It was in nineteen seventy four Sportster.

Well, not to talk to But then after that, you did talk to the young lady in question, and she confirmed this to you.

What did she have to say.

The young lady in question?

You mean that Trump was talking about.

Yeah, it was like your stepdaughter.

I believe it doesn't No, not my stepdaughter.

Okay, okay, let's get that cleared up right now, because the Duke family is talking a bunch of nonsense.

Well, most you're.

Right, I'm totally incorrect.

When I wrote down step daughter, you wanted to clarify that it wasn't your stepdaughters.

I apologize to that, mister Free.

When I first got to know Cheryl was after my second divorce, and that was in nineteen eighty nine.

And as I said, she's a beautiful young lady back then, you know, and she was very friendly.

She was a bartender at one of the kind of biker bars that I went to, and we became friends.

I never had any kind of romantic feeling.

That's how you came That's how you came to know this young lady that was assaulted by Trump.

Yeah, I'm getting to that.

She asked me one evening, are you on your bike or did you drive?

And I said, I'm in the car.

You know.

She goes, well, can I ask you favor?

I'm like, sure, she can.

There anyway you could get me a ride home?

When I get off, I close and I won't get out of here till like two thirty.

I was like, yeah, sure, I'm not working tomorrow, no problem.

Oh okay, Damn.

The thing is, we don't have that much time to get it, okay.

So I gave her right home.

I gave her ride home, and when we went in the house and then all three of the little girls were up running around and stuff.

We're hungry, We're hungry.

The babysit are having fed.

I'm sure this guy.

Dang it.

She goes into the kitchen, comes back out.

Can you run me down to the convenience store and get these kids up to eat?

Okay, Dan, I'm gonna have to stop you.

I'm gonna have to stop you there.

Okay, let's get to the point where now you can the young lady confronts to you that this happened, and she's asking you by how to spollulaine that kind of stuff.

Okay.

In nineteen ninety seven, oh, the three little girls were in terror shock because the babysitter had slashed the wrists right in front of them.

Okay, they called up in my lap looking for comfort.

I tilted my head back and started saying Lord's Prayer, and when I looked down, they were all three sound asleep, laying against my chest.

From that point for it, I considered them to be my daughter's by twitch.

Okay, enough of that anyway.

In nineteen ninety seven, Cheryl had just gotten out of prison.

I hadn't seen her since ninety two.

I'm pretty sure I ran into her at a little restaurant she was working at as a waitress, and she immediately was asking me if I'd give her a ride home and home.

She's just right over here at this hotel.

Yeah, no problem.

I get off and a few meant okay, So I get her right over there.

I said, do you still have my phone number?

No?

And I said, well here, if you need a ride or something, call me, you know.

Right, can we depart?

Okay?

Okay, I'm almost to that.

During that period of time in ninety seven, she starts asking me, how do you spell the name Gleen or Glane the.

Young lady that you heard trump mention in the back of the car.

No, No, this is her mother, Cheryl Dooke.

She handgrets and I said, I don't know.

You do too.

How would I know that?

You know?

I don't know.

I'm telling you, I don't know.

Why are you so curious about Well?

She's I know she'll help me with money.

She has before a lot.

I just can't remember how.

I don't have her phone number anymore since being locked up, and I need to get a hold of her.

I know she'll helped me out with money.

And that was the last I heard about it.

Dan Free, let me ask you a question, how did Cheryl how did she first come into contact with Geelan Maxwell.

How would she have met her?

Okay, Cheryl and the three girls went to visit the middle girls' father, who lived in Niagara, New York, gotcha.

And it was around Christmas time of nineteen ninety four, and they decided to go sight seeing in downtown New York City and Manhattan.

You know, small town Oklahoma.

Lady and her three daughters.

Hey, the big city Christmas lights right, And they were standing in front of what I assume was Trump Tower the way that Dusty describe it to me on Christmas Eve of ninety nine, and Leanne Maxwell pulled up in a show drizen car and walked straight up to Dusty Dusty was fourteen at the time, and engaged him in a conversation and invited him him up into Trump Tower.

Cheryl didn't want the youngest girl to go up there because she was really young and probably what I guess five four or five years old at that time, but she allowed Dusty and Tanya to go up into Trump Tower.

And this is what Dusty told me when I got her to calm down, tell me what had happened on Christmas Eve of ninety nine that they went up into this big fancy building with this Glaine, Gleen, however, you said, and that when there were lots of other young girls in there, and that, you know, Tanya and her were talking to different people and adults and whatnot, and everybody was real nice and all that.

And when Glaine walked up to her while she was kind of away from Tanya, asked her if she wanted to go upstairs and see the rest of the of the apartment or the condo or whatever, and he said, yeah, sure, they go up, and on the way up, Glaine says, oh, hey, by the way, there's a guy up here.

He's actually he's one of the residents here.

He's waiting on his massuse to show up.

I don't think they're going to show up.

If you want to just give him a back massage, she'll probably pay a couple hundred dollars.

This is Dusty telling me this on Christmas Eve of ninety nine.

Okay, until I agreed.

And she opens this door and no missus sitting in there, And she takes me in there and introduced me, tells me his name's Jeff, And let me tell me for a second.

Dusty tells you this.

This occurred on Christmas Eve nineteen ninety and Dusty.

No, not that it occurred on Christmas Eve, but Christmas it occurred at Christmas time of nineteen ninety four.

Four and just telling me this.

When she was nineteen years old on Christmas Eve of nineteen ninety nine.

And what inspired her to start telling you this?

And by then you already had that incident in the car?

So who brought up the conversation was that you?

Did you ever tell her about that conversation of the car?

No?

I hadn't told anybody about it, not.

Even dust Steve.

Will You never asked her about it?

No?

No, no, okay, then there was literally not because you get mad at me.

I'm just asking.

I'm not mad.

I'm not mad.

I'm sorry.

Listen to me, Listen to you.

I know it's very stressful.

Until ninety seven, I hadn't seen Dusty since I'm pretty sure it was ninety two.

And when I saw her in ninety seven, I knew immediately there had been a drastic change in her personality.

And then stop for a second, because I just want to get this straight.

Ninety five you hear trump.

Ninety seven you next, your next meet Dusty.

And then ninety nine.

Dusty tells you this story.

On Christmas Eve in ninety seven, I bump into Sheryl at this little restaurant she worked out, and I started giving her rides.

And it was during that period of time that was the first time I saw Dusty and I knew immediately something drastic could happen to her, but I didn't say anything to her.

I didn't let onto anybody.

I'd had this experience with Donald Trump.

What inspires the conversation between.

You and Okay, I had gone over to see my son, who was fifteen months old at the time he was conceived on Christmas Day, after giving Ryl a ride to visit her dad in Indian Hospital in southern Oklahoma, right after he had his leg ampotato on Christmas Day of Christmas Day of ninety seven, and that was when it led to the one time night interlude that produced my son.

Anyway, I went over to visit him on Christmas Eve of ninety nine, and I had walked over there to see him, and it is five six miles, but it was important to me to see my son, you know.

Okay, Dusty walks Dusty wah and Dusty walks in she had been out somewhere.

Hey, Dusty lung time.

Hey damn you know, Cheryl goes, Dusty, would you mind giving Dan ride home so he doesn't have to walk?

Sure, no problem.

So she gives me right home, and as we're pulling up to the apartment where I lived, she says, Dusty goes.

So Mom told me you drove limousines for a while, and I said, yeah, I sure did.

What was that like, you can need anybody famous?

And so yeah.

The first service I drove for was the advertised as the official limo service of the Dallas Cowboys, which had a huge draw with celebrities because I guess they or their travel agents whoever would see that advertising tag and figure, you know, the Cowboys are letting them use their name, they must be all right.

So yeah, I drove a lot of really like who did you ever drive any of the cowboys?

Like did you drive Toy?

Oh?

Yeah, I drove Toy several times?

Actually, really, what's he like?

I said, He's okay, he was cordial.

You know, he actually tipped if you were driving him while he was on a date.

You really anybody else?

I said?

Well?

Am at Smith?

Oh I love him at Smith.

I say, he's a super nice guy, and he always tipped.

I said, Oprah Winfrey, Tiger Woods.

I didn't even know who Tiger Woods was.

I hadn't followed off.

Really he drove Tigering Yeah, and anybody.

How did it come about your statue?

I'm right there.

I'm right there, I said, some clown named Donald Trump.

And I see this beautiful young nineteen year old girl go from all smiles.

I'm enthralled with what I'm talking to.

Her too, grabs the steering wheel and starts bending the steering wheel back and forth a couple of inches, and with her teeth gritted, goes stet out, whoa, whoa, whoa, Dusty, whoa, Calm down, it's me.

It's me, daddy Dan, what's going on?

Get out?

I said, no, I'm not getting out.

I'm going to sit right here until you take some breaths and calm down.

No way, I'm going to let you drive a vehicle in the state you're in right now.

So take some deep breaths and calm down.

And she starts taking some deep bress.

I said, now, can you tell me what's going on?

And she goes, keep right me.

I'm like WHOA, you're telling me Donald Trump raped you?

Yes, I said, Okay, relax, I'm on your side.

You know that.

You know I love you more than life itself, Sweete, you know that.

Can you tell me what happened?

And she takes some deep breaths, and that's when she tells me the story about being in New York, going up there to visit Tanya's dad, going sight seeing to see all the pretty Christmas lights in downtown, standing in front of this big, fancy building that was like the front of it was all gold.

And I didn't even know what Trump Tower was at that point in time.

And what year was it that she was at trump Tewer, I'm sorry that what, Dusty?

What year did she tell you that she was at Trump Tower?

Around Christmas time of ninety four four when she would have been fourteen years old?

I guess, Gosha, Yeah, she was.

Born in nineteen eighty, is what I understand.

Okay, all right.

Now, just anyway she tells me.

And I still didn't say anything to anybody about either of those two deals.

I just kept it to myself and chewed on it and chewed on it made me physically ill when I thought about it.

Did you discuss pulling the police that night with her in nineteen ninety nine?

Okay, I said, Dusty, this is completely up to you, but you really need to report this to the police.

I can't.

What do you mean you can't.

Mom won't let me, I said, Dusty.

You're nineteen years old, so you're your own person.

You're an adult.

You're in charge of your own life.

Now, you can do what you want to do.

Now, understand that, I completely understand if you'd rather not report this and not have the exposure from it and not have people finding out.

I get that.

I understand it.

Know that I'm terribly terribly sorry for what has happened to you.

But if you do decide to call the police, know that I'm here for you no matter what.

That's not going to change.

I've loved you and your two little sisters since that first night we met.

When I'm not going to say her name, when the babysitter slashed her wrists right in front.

Oh, I forgot.

Oh.

I felt so safe with you, and I was like, well, yeah, you all three of you fell asleep against my chest.

Yeah, you were praying.

I said, yeah, I got you three to calm down, follow along with me praying, and I just kind of prayed the Lord's prayer and yeah, that's.

Right, so Dan Dan.

Now, ultimately though, there's a tragic ending to this young lady.

Right, there was a gunshot wounded a head.

How did that come about?

Well, Dusty calls me the next day, on Christmas Day of ninety nine.

I pick up the phone and I hear I did it.

And I said, okay, I was pretty sure it was Dusty bow and polositive.

I said, did what you know what we talked about?

I'm like, oh, you called the police?

Yeah.

Oh.

First of all, she goes, how do I The night before, she goes, well, how do I report?

How do I call the police?

I said, just pick up the phone and I'll nine one one and just start telling exactly what you just told me.

Really, just nine one one, I said, Yes, ma'am.

Police anywhere in the United States have a judiciary duty.

They are bound to investigate the reports of crimes, whether it's in their jurisdiction or not.

They are bound to tell you how to have it reported properly.

By law, they have to do that.

So just dial nine one one.

It's that easy.

Well, okay, I'll think about it.

Okay, that's all I'm asking you to do.

So the next day she calls nine one one.

Oh, either late Christmas Eve or early Christmas morning, and she called me I did it anyway, and she wouldn't go if she wouldn't say it.

And I said, does your mom standing right there?

Yeah?

I said, okay, well just relax and enjoy your day, have a great Christmas.

Well, Merry Christmas, I said, Merry Christmas to you.

Go ahead and hang up, like that's all you called me for was just to wish me to marry Christmas.

Okay, love you, love you too.

By hung up, didn't talk to her again, which was rather odd, because you know, she'd call me regularly from time, oh several times when I first bumped into her after bumping into Cheryl in ninety seven, just to talk, you know, And I thought, that's kind of odd.

I haven't heard from her.

And on January the eleventh of two thousand, the phone rings and I pick up the phone.

Hello, she's dead, Danny, she's dead.

It's Cheryl, she's dead.

And I was like, who's dead Cheryl?

My daughter?

She's dead?

Danny, God Cheryl?

Which daughter?

Dusty, what they murdered her?

Who murdered her?

Do you know?

How would I know who murdered her?

What the hell?

And she hangs up.

So did you ever find out what was the cause of death?

I called her back.

I don't remember if it was that day or the next day.

I said, So, what's going on with her?

Is?

When's the funeral?

She tells me the date, which is three days after her death.

I'm sitting there at the back of the funeral park, her by Dusty's grandmother, and of course her grandmother is biting tears and crying and stuff.

I put my arm around her grandmother and said, I'm so so sorry.

I said, I understand if you can't talk about it at all, But what happened?

And she goes she shot herself?

I said, nah, how?

And she just kind of points up under her tin.

I was like, good lord, where did Dusty get her hands on the gun?

And she was it was mine?

I said, oh, I called her by name.

I said, it's not your fault.

Don't even think that this is not your fault.

And I told her I loved her, and they were hugging, and the funeral started and during the viewing procession wherever Dlawyer walks down and walks by the casket.

I took it one look at Dusty laying in that casket and I was like, no, she didn't shoot herself under the tin.

That's bs they had re rebuilt the whole frontal left frontal lobe.

Part of her head had a wig on her.

It was obvious the gunshot came from probably the back of the head.

And I scurried out of the chapel as fast as I could and went outside.

And I've never cried that hard in my life.

When did the story come up?

Because in the FBI intake forman said something about a drug cartel.

When did that come up?

I'm sorry.

From what I understand, that was made public con December the twenty third, twenty twenty five, and that FBI report is it's got two blatant lies.

And I quit looking at it, and I realized, wait, wait.

Wait, so the drug cartel story came out in twenty twenty five.

Oh drug cartel?

What says here?

I'm sorry one second, I'm on the wrong page.

I quit looking at that FBI sheet when I realized that.

It had to cocaine gotten cocaine from a Mexican drug cartel, feels the murder is a cover for a guy.

Land very very probable.

I don't remember talking about that, but I may have.

Oh yeah, yeah, I did talk about that because one of the people that I met at the bar that Cheryl worked at in nineteen eighty nine, come to find out, sold cocaine that was coming into Mina, Arkansas or Arkansas Air National Guard aircraft requisitioned by Bill Clinton for use by Barry Seal and Roger Clinton.

His name was John W.

Nichols.

I actually bought cocaine from him a few times.

And also to you, if you get to page three on this intake format, you're talking about John W.

Nichols that you believe that he was involved in the Oklahoma City bombing.

Yeah, I believe.

You're tired and set me up for it.

But at Sneider here and or there, there's really cool.

Well, I just want to con that might.

Be connected to Dusty.

I don't know, you know, how.

Did they come up in your conversation with the FBI.

I don't remember how it came up, I really don't.

But then what was the following.

They may have asked me something about it?

I really don't recall how it came up.

I do remember talking about anyway, As soon as I saw that the tip seat said that it was anonymous, I'm like, so that's a lie.

I fully identified myself to him when I called, I told him, who is my full legal name, my data birth.

It doesn't say it's anonymous.

It says it has your it doesn't have your name, but it says your date of birth.

Sale a telephone number.

Yeah, well that's a different one than I saw.

Then that's the one that comes from the Epstein files.

I'm telling you, that's a different one that I saw that supposedly came from the Epstein files.

Have you mean it what I saw?

Oh?

No, I'll send you.

And then it also stated in there that that uh and uh.

The the caller stated that he wasn't for certain that Trump was talking about uh, Dusty Duke.

And that's absolute bs.

I told him as soon as he said the name Keefer and then Oklahoma, I knew for an absolute fact he was talking about Dusty, my Dusty.

Because the town of Keifer is like, you know, ken people or something.

I'm not exaggerating, you know, it's not very big.

It might not be.

It might be a little bigger than that, but not.

I don't think it says anything here about you not being sure either, But what do you call it?

I do notice.

They've changed that around then to now.

This is from the FBI dote.

Okay, you're not following me.

It's been changed around.

Oh no, no, I agree with you with that, because the version of.

The guys that are behind all of this are masters at changing even the architecture of buildings.

The version it's being.

Certainly on the building where I picked Donald John Trump up from and Clarence Thomas and right, I was going to ask Donald and cruise and where I dropped Jim Jordan off at.

And do you have the dates and the occasions for those trips to we.

Were within that six month period of time that I worked for Wes.

And every time from that same address.

Yes, sir two or two or from.

Okay, gotcha?

Now did you hear them having any kind of telephone conversations on their cell phones?

Any of those people?

Yeah?

No, any other.

Mitch Mitch McConnell.

Mitch McConnell stunk so horribly that I had to roll down both front windows of that car to keep from puking.

I actually did puke a little bit up into my mouth and he goes, oh, it's going to windy back here, and I said, I'm sorry, sir, I was having a hard time breathing.

And he goes.

Mitch McConnell says, oh, I guess I really should bathe before I leave that place.

Okay, Now, what about any other bizarre incident in the back of the car with this bunch of Clarence Thomas and Mitch McConnell ted crue Jordan's.

Well, Jim Jordan.

As we got close to where the building was about block he had block and a half away, he goes, hey, man, have you ever had sex with a baby?

I said, hell, no, freaking christ is that dude?

I'm sorry and he goes he goes, oh, that's well, I'm getting ready to do.

I said, that's a sick blank you blank.

Oh, I'm sorry.

No.

I was like, you know, what a crackpot trying to get me to comment on something like that.

He's probably got a recorder and he's pocket or something.

Who knows.

Anyway, I didn't know Jim Jordan was.

He does some young punk as far as I made and Anyways, I turned the corner to where you can see that building.

I he asked a question that he had orgasm in the back of the heat of that car.

Right to move on from the building.

Because you've had these other occasions, you've never called the police.

When was it on that day that made you call the FBI?

Have you ever called the FBI before?

You mean in twenty twenty?

Yeah, because you've had these other occasions, you never called the cops up.

Well, what was I think I did?

I think I in fact, I know I called them in like nineteen oh ninety eight.

I guess about John W.

Nichols, Okay, because I mean he knew Tim McVay, no doubt at all.

I met Tim McVay at that little bar the show was the bartender Red, after I'd had a run in with Hillary Clinton, of all people.

Okay, let's slow down here.

When did you beat Tim McVeigh.

What year was that.

We've been ninety okay?

And when did you meet Hillary Clinton?

Eighty nine or ninety?

Okay?

I didn't meet her.

Actually, I went to this place called Louis Tavern that was at the Farm shopping Center at East fifty first Street in South Sherriton and tults her it's not the farm anymore, but I mean it's not Louis Tavern anymore.

As a matter of fact, I think it was during that time that it was changing from Louis Tavern to the bistro.

Is that the occasion where she was drunk and she was having a fight in this bar and fired Nicholas?

Yes, okay, now let's get to this.

Now.

What about after you made this report, this telephone tip line to the FBI?

Uh, did they follow up with you at all?

Nope?

As a matter of fact, they the guys said, well, all right, you know, is this number?

You know your phone number?

I said, yeah, that's that's it.

All right?

When you live that you said, yeah, I told you or I live.

Okay, Well, if we need any more information, we'll be in touch.

All right, Well thanks bye?

Yeah, I know.

So no follow up at that point.

Now what about since this the Epstein files have been released, have you heard from the oversight committee or any anything.

These people are not actually interested in pursuing justice against Stone.

Number one, they're probably all scared shitless because he's unlived so many people.

And number two, yeah, they're after votes to stay in office.

They don't.

They don't want to take a chance on, you know, uh, alienating what about one third of the people in the United States?

So no follow up from FBI and no follow from oversight.

What about reporters, as I I think I told you this before, several reporters where they claim to be reporters.

Uh, two or three investigators, you know, investigators.

Nobody from law enforcement is actually.

Interested in investigators for who I'm sorry, investigators who.

Private, private, private investigators And no I'm not going to name who they.

Are, just like offering their services to help you at the case.

No comment?

Okay, And you said the news report?

Is it?

No one the names you would recognize?

No comment?

Okay, all right, let's see what else now?

Okay, so no one, no contact after this?

Now, what about anybody offer you money to keep quiet?

Hey, uh, there's a couple of bucks.

On No, absolutely there's a plaintive.

Let me make let me make this perfectly clear.

I want absolutely nothing from Donald Trump or any of it or any of his constituents in any way, shape or form, whatsoever.

I want nothing of that of Donald Trump's being in my life, not a thing.

How about threats?

Than because I've been involved in some high profile stuff with Trump.

But I've got a lot of SUSA.

From Cheryl and her family, some of her family.

Now Cheryl is the mother of the young lady who's passed away.

Yes, well, then then what is there up and why would they be upset with you?

Because she's been taking hush money from Donald Trump since nineteen ninety five, Right, she's been obstructing justice in the rape and murder of her own daughter.

Yeah, that's kind of a bad thing to do, you know, doesn't surely you understand that?

No, sure, I understand that.

Sure.

Now, then you sent me a link to this sub stack.

Do you have any comments about that?

Well, I posted a deal on Facebook about it, just that they're lying, and you know what else, who am I going to They can lie if they want to.

Anybody can lie if they want to.

They can I've lied before in my lifetime.

Nothing I'm proud of.

I tried to refrain from telling you any kind of a lie whatsoever since actually, right before Christmas of two.

Thousand and nine, when I, oh, I don't want to get off into this, when I recommitted my life to the creator createores of the human race, Yes, plural, look it up.

That's enough of that.

I don't want to get into that.

Let me ask you this, Dan, Are there any questions I haven't asked you that you'd like you want.

Ence to know about?

Well?

No, I covered how it came about that Dusty and Tanya, the youngest girl, became my daughters by choice to speak, and you know, uh huh I.

I really can't think of any others.

You know, do you know if the FBI ever contacted to contacted any of the other people involved in this story, the mother and sisters.

I have no idea.

I really don't have any idea.

I do know the address of the house that Cheryl lives in, and that would you know?

It's in o Sage County, But it's a Tulsa address, which is should I say this on No?

Definitely, I don't know, but I think I might have that address.

Uh it's something on the south.

Uh it's it's it's on North Union Avenue, a different address.

It's a very very very long street.

So right, okay, all right, Dan, anything else you'd like to show with us?

Just one thing, People all over this planet need to start reaching deep down inside of themselves and started hearing to a thing called faith in a gote love.

A gote love is described as this that you love somebody just because you care about them, because they're a human being, not for anything they can possibly do for you, just because you care about them, because they're a human being, and they deserve to have dignity and food to eat, and protection from the harsh elements, shelter, a place to live.

Just the fact that I have food to eat on a regular basis, and the fact that I have a place to live, just those two things makes me extremely wealthy compared to two thirds about five billion people on this planet.

Just the fact that I have food to eat, that one thing on a regular basis makes me personally wealthier than a third of the people on this planet.

Those are real numbers.

Here's another real number, every twenty four hours every day worldwide, somewhere around and these are old figures, somewhere between about twenty five thousand and fifty thousand people on this planet, mostly little children, straight up starved to death.

Those are real numbers, not made up hyper bowl.

And there are people on this planet, single persons who have enough money to end all of that suffering, one of which is now the Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia.

I drove him when he was the Sheikh of Saudi Arabia.

King Hussein, not sit out husein King who sings oldest firstborn son, whose income from the moment he was born, there's one percent of the G and D gross national product of Saudi Arabia.

It was expressed to me like this, Oh honey, he was a millionaire before he was an hour old.

On that said, note mister f i' get going.

Oh my god, imagine that it wouldn't not be nice to have a little bit out of cash van you could find.

I'd rather I'd rather go to the people that have no place to live in No.

In fact, there's a there's a man on this planet that I'm guessing right now.

He owes me between forty four and four five billion dollars, and I told him what I was going to do with my share of the money, at least ninety percent of it, at least ninety percent of it was to end homelessness in the United States and hunger and hopefully the rest of the world.

If I could get other very wealthy people to join me.

In that endeavor, which I kind of think they would if they saw somebody with that much money doing good.

Brothers, there was a man.

He's actually the first date.

Hold on, let me tell you now, I'm out of time, speaking of hunger.

I had to cut the commercials out of this interview, so I'm going to be hungry myself this week.

The first billionaire that we have record on this bat was a man named Stanley tam.

Right, Danfrey.

You can find him on YouTube.

That's dan fe r r ee on you.

Is that correct the.

Spelling, that's correct, sir, Thank you and taking Thank you for taking this time to interview me and get this story out.

I can't thank enough if you.

If you think of anything else you want me to know, hit me up on Facebook and give me an update and we'll put you right.

Back on the air.

Okay, man, all right, especially especially.

If you're get any threats or some someone offering you money or the FBI fouls up something like that, and get a hold of.

Me right away, all right, Hey man, have a blessed rest to eternity.

Okay, Okay, thank you very much.

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Okay, we are back with Dan Free.

We just we had taped them a few days ago, but I called him back because we had some time to fill and I had some other questions I want to get back to about.

So Dan, you're there, I'm here, sir.

Okay, yea.

How you feeling, bro, I'm.

Actually feeling pretty good today.

Okay, great, great.

So now we had you on the show for people that are just tuning in.

He's the limo driver from the Jeffrey Epstein files that were just released.

He had that story about listening to Donald Trump in the back seat of his limo talking to Jeffrey Epstein.

There was a brutal rape and an even possible murder of a young lady.

He feels it feels like I said, can.

We can we start over this guy that's sitting next Can we just started his car with open headers on it or something?

No, No, that's fine, that's fine.

Nobody can hear that we're good.

We're good.

So Dan, Let me ask you this now.

I wanted to ask you some questions about some of the other cases you had described to me about Clarence Thomas and Jim Jordan that you had also rode with them in the car.

So let's start with Jim Jordan, because that was the most.

Extreme story.

You told me.

What year was it that you ran into Jim Jordan?

It was nineteen ninety five, the same six months that drove the rest of these guys to and from that building there in Dallas.

That sin is the last time we talked that building.

Have you been able to think about it, maybe come up in an address or a more tighter location of.

Where it was.

No.

I searched the Google Maps, deal and street View and still haven't found it.

Are searched and searched.

They've probably changed the facaw of the building around.

You know that freemasonry does that on a regular basis.

They'll change the entire architecture of a building and repurpose it.

What have you some Yeah, that's interesting.

You sent me a YouTube video one time and you were saying something about the architecture of the building.

What do you want to share with this about that?

Well, that is kind of interesting.

The building that I would actually drop these people off or picked them up from was a like a rear annex building that sat directly behind a Masonic temple.

And it was just plain stucco walls, kind of a tan color, no signage on it whatsoever.

You could only see the south and the west sides of the building.

Really, the north side of the building was almost right up against the Masonic temple.

The back of the Masonic temple, and the east side of the building was basically part of two other buildings that were like twenty stories tall or something.

But the only door on that whole building was just a small, single person like business door or an aluminum frame business door that the panel in it.

The glass panel was completely blacked out.

You couldn't see through it at all.

But that was the only door to that building.

And that door did not have a handle on the outside of the door.

The only way you could get it open was from the inside or somebody opening it for you as you arrived.

And I did manage to get it open when I was waiting on Donald Trump to come out.

Actually, I grabbed a hold of the very edge of the metal frame and pulled it open and got it open and walked inside, and it was kind of a dark hallway inside of that door, and there was a hallway off to the left down probably twenty twenty five feet or so, and then almost directly across from that there was another hallway.

And these two individuals came out of the hallway on the left.

One of them was this real small, scrawny looking guy, kind of strange looking character, and the other guy was this huge black man.

I'm gonna say he was at least seven and a half feet feet tall, great big guy, muscular build kind of and he had he would how do I say this on radio?

He was very well endowed, so much so that his endowment reached down to about halfway between his knee and his ankle there.

I don't know if that's publishable or not.

So now at the time, because because you know, people have these theories about the Masons and Masonic temples and stuff like that, they give it to this nefarious, you know, attachment to it.

Were you of that opinion at the time or was this an opinion you developed after this?

What about that building being attached to the Masons.

No, yeah, And the reputation of the Masons being like Illuminati, what is the Luciferian and that kind of stuff.

Yeah, my father was a shriner and at about two years old, I was, you know, his kind of orangey red colored shiner's had.

I thought that was just the neatest thing on the planet, you know, as a two year old.

And I'm sitting on the front porch of the house waiting on Dad to come home from his second actual Masonic meeting at a Masonic temple, and he comes walking down the street without his shriner's hat on, and my mom says, what are you doing home already?

And he said, I quit, I want nothing else to do with that.

And you what, you know, because he rode the little car around in the parade their Christmas time, and I remember there was a little heated discussion.

I don't remember what was said, but it ended up with its over, honey, and he walked on in the house.

But I remember that happening.

And then when I was four years old, on November the twenty second of nineteen sixty three, the assassination of John Fitzgerald Kennedy was when I learned about human death, and for some reason, I took an interest in kind of studying freemasonry from the age of four, not really deep dive in to it or anything, but I would just pick up on things throughout my life.

This is sixty two years ago.

I started paying attention to anything I heard or saw about premasonry.

And then when you went then.

Into that building, you already had those kind of opions about freemasonry, right, you were already suspicious of them.

Yes.

And then when I went to work for Wes Evans, and it was actually right before Christmas or right before New Year's I'm sorry, of ninety four ninety five, and I started driving these guys to and from that building that sat behind the Masonic Temple.

I was like, Wow, you know there's something going on here that is not correct, and especially with some of the things that a few of them said.

You know, guys that are into deviant behavior for some reason like to brag about it.

I don't get it, but they do.

So, going off the top of my memory, the names you gave us so far with Trump, Epstein, Maxwell, you mentioned, Jim Jordan and Clarence Thomas any other and then McConn, Mitch McConnell, any other ones that I missed.

Those are the only real names Ted Cruzed.

I don't remember if I don't remember if I picked him up or dropped him off at that building, but yeah, he went there also.

Then let me ask you this note, Dan, because this is back in nineteen ninety five, how did you reckick?

Because Jim Jordan wasn't a well known person unless you were following the Olympics.

No, he was really young, and I didn't know who he was.

I didn't know who any of these people were, you know, and asked Mitch McConnell.

You know, I'm mine to ask, what do you do?

Sure?

But well, well let's stay with Jim Jordan for a second.

How did you when did you put two and two together and realized it was the same Jim Jordan that was involved with the OSU scandal and on these oldest committees.

Back back back when the was it Ohio?

Is that right Ohio State?

Yeah, when that came out, I was like, wow, that was that dude that I drove to the building back in ninety five.

That's when I put that together and Ted.

Goods because he's the same thing Ted Cruz.

No one knew who this guy was back in ninety five, and when did you put two and two together on him?

The only reason I remember Ted Cruise is because I asked him, uh if if he was related to Oh gosh, what was his name?

Last name Cruise?

I can't think of his first name.

Round Tom Couz, the guy that did did the Cross in the switch Blade, and.

Dude, I knew Ted Ted Ted Wilkinson.

I went to Times Square Church.

I knew Ted Wilkinson.

I knew Don Wilkinson.

Wis was the preacher that held the rally?

Yeah, yeah, I know I was.

I was a member of that church and doctor Crandall's granddaughter worked for me when I was I had a company on Stanton Allen.

I have described closer to today.

That was that.

I think it was called I don't remember if it was called Run Baby Run or the Cross.

In the switch Blade the.

Movie Crossing the Switchblade and what's his name?

Ericas Strata played a Cruise.

I think it is his first name, but I can't believe.

But young getting all my memories not so good.

Yeah, that was like one of the very first movies I ever went to see.

You back in what was that late late late sixties, I guess when that came out the book.

The book is a whole lot better than the movie, y'all.

Oh yeah, oh yeah.

And if you're out there, got a teen Challenge if you have a problem with the drug addicts or anything like that.

Teen Challenge was great for restarting people's lives.

Times Square Church.

I can't recommend it enough.

But the choir in that church was just incredible.

Man.

Okay, but back to back to business here.

Now, what about Clarence Thomas?

What was your connection with him?

Well?

I just drove him.

I think it was two or three times, either two and or from that building.

He really didn't he was not very talkative at all, so I didn't.

We didn't converse, you know, other than how's your day?

Fine, how's yours?

Oh?

I'm doing okay, you know.

And then why did you put two and two together with him?

Because he was kind of I think in ninety five that's when he was first being going through the process of the It was a confirmation hearings and stuff like that.

So when.

He was.

Being looked at to become a Supreme Court justice and Anita Hill thing, and I was like, oh, wow, was that guy I drove?

Yeah, yeah, he's not right in the head in my opinion, whatever that's worth.

Let's see what that was.

That was nineteen ninety one was the confirmation hearing, so he was already Supreme Court by the time you saw him.

Well, there was something going on with Anita Thomas I think that was her name, the girl that he had said who put a puby care on my coatcake or something?

You know, there was something going on with that.

She was suing him or something.

Is when I picked up on it that that was the guy I drove.

You know, Yeah, Joe Biden was very mean to We need a Thomas.

What was that even gonna Anita Woods?

Right?

Anita Hill?

I think was Hill?

I need a Hill?

Right?

Man.

I'm sorry boy, I'm really bad today.

My memory is really shot.

So now all these guys Clarence Thomas and Jim Jordan and you said, I know last time he said Trump was all by himself.

But what about Mitch McConnell, Ted Cruz.

Were they by themselves or did they have people?

Oh?

Yeah, there was never more than one person going to or from that building.

Hmm yeah.

And Mitch McConnell.

Mitch McConnell.

He uh, well, I think I told you this in our previous talk.

He he smelled really, really, really nasty.

You mentioned that.

You mentioned that, Yeah.

So much so that I had to rolled both windows down to keep from.

Well, let me ask you this because I apologize too.

What I normally do is when I have asked questions, I have a little pad in front of me and I put the question down.

But my memories of today is really crappy.

Okays, you could tell a bear with me, bro.

Now, the thing is that there were But was there any significance to because you know, they have those ritual dates.

You know what I'm talking about.

The massonics would have those ritual type dates with any significance to the times and dates that you were dropping these people off and picking them up.

No, not that I know of.

I mean there might have been, and I'm just not aware of it.

Just weren't aware of it.

Would there any be any way for you to go back and figure out what dates they were that you picked them up and dropped them off?

No.

I I made contact with Wes Evans and he said, oh no, I you know I got rid of all those records after seven years of closing the service.

Dam Now this is since the last time we talked, Because last time we talked that you said you didn't know if he was alive or dead.

Yeah, I've heard that he had passed that I haven't spend any time trying to verify that.

Now, now let me ask a question because there's this other controversy going on right now.

If you heard the story of William Sasha Barrows Riley, yes, because he mentions these same names Clarence Thomas, Jim Jordan, Trump, and Epstein, and he's also has an Oklahoma connection.

Are you aware of that?

Hell?

Did I lose you?

Hello?

Are you?

Yeah?

I?

I didn't go anywhere, man, I've been here.

I'm sorry.

I was trying to set the phone down so I wouldn't have to hold it in That's sorry.

Now, I know that's one of the things I talked to a guest.

Can I say, hey, can you?

Are you gonna be able to hold that phone for the whole hour?

Because it does it touched the way on you.

But anyway, so Sasha Barrows Riley, uh, pretty much mentions these same names and he has an Oklahoma connection too.

Did you ever run across him?

I not that I recall, might have I don't remember it if I did.

Right, But you are familiar with his story, right.

Yes, some hot it's a lot.

So I haven't listened to the whole all of the stuff that's available enough to realize that, yeah, he's telling the trees you know.

Got you?

And so when when's the first time you think you've heard of his story?

Oh, it's just recently, within the last month or so.

Got you?

And then what about Lisa Voulding?

What is your connection to her?

Just somebody that reached out to me to I believe she's actually the one that put me in touch with you, if I'm not mistaken.

No, definitely not.

No, that was somebody else.

Oh yeah, that was not that I'm aware of.

I really don't know the person who put us in touch.

But you think it was Lisa Voulding who put us in touch.

I don't remember exactly who it was for sure, but I've spoken with her and told her some of the details, you know.

And how did that come about?

I don't remember.

She reached out to me or I reached out to her over Facebook?

Is how we connected?

Right?

And when do you think you first made contact with Lisa Bolden?

It's probably been well since the Epstein file thing broke on December the twenty third of twenty twenty.

Five, So twenty twenty five.

Yeah, so it's been within the last month.

Huh.

Okay, and did you when you were sharing a swapping information back and forth, did you come up with any kind of connections between you and Sasha baryss story.

No, not, other than it lined up with you know, things I knew personally about Trump and that group of people around him.

Yeah, it all lines up.

I mean there's I believe he's telling the truth.

I mean he's he's not to my knowledge, he's not asking for any kind of compensation or anything like that.

It's like me, So, you know, did you have any conversations with Sasha?

No, I haven't gotcha.

I did try reaching out to him over Facebook, but you know, Mark Zuckerberg has got his h his whole body of Trump's daria for tax breaks.

So well, you were tell me about this, now, what is how long have you been having problems with Zuckerberg?

Uh?

I met him in two thousand and two.

Oh, you met Zuckerberg in two thousand and two.

Okay, tell us about that.

Well, I was sitting at a little club called the Picnic Pub in Tults, Oklahoma.

It's a little neighborhood beer barber.

Predominantly they did serve strong liquor, but most people that went in there only drank beer.

I'm sitting there by the front door at the bar and the door comes open.

Then I turned and it's Mark Zuckerberg and he goes, hey, man, hey, yeah, He goes, this is this place safe?

Is you know?

I said, yeah, there's never been any problems in here.

I've been coming in here for years.

He came in by himself too.

No, he had two guys that spoke Russian with him, and he's The story was that he he and his two his two buddies had a long layover at the airport and flagged a cab down and said take us to a little neighborhood pub somewhere.

That was the story.

And he and I engaged in a conversation because I asked him, you know, where he's from and stuff, and he said he was a student at Harvard And I said, really, what are you taking?

He said, wait, you said two thousand and what.

Two thousand and two?

Two?

Yeah, okay, all right, I'm pretty sure it was either right, before or right after I had tried to move to Florida, which I was down there for about a year and a half or so.

But I really don't recall if it was before or after.

But anyway, so it was either two thousand or two thousand.

Now it had to have been two thousand and two, had to admit yeah.

But anyway, I asked him what he was studying, and he said computer stuff.

I said, oh, wow, cool, I said, I used to manage a radio shack and computer center.

Oh yeah.

We started this conversation.

He got the idea for Facebook from me after he promised, after he promised to pay me ten percent of the proceeds.

This question, after the dollar signs quit flipping over in his eyeballs, was so, what are you going to use you share the money forward?

I said, well, first to end homelessness and hunger in the United States and then if some other wealthy people will join in, hopefully worldwide, because looks very noble, and I said, well, you know, I do have an ancestry of French nobleman.

So, Dan, have you ever considered suing Zuckerberg?

Then, oh, I've considered it, but you know, there's nothing in writing it was just a verbal handshake agreement.

And then what makes you how do you know then that he's interfering with your Facebook communications?

You see, it's obvious, you know, I mean things getting changed around in my account consistently.

Let me ask you this not too now, since since you've come forward and you've attached your name to this report, you've come public, you've gone out, you've come out that you're not out that way, but you've come out that your name is attached to this FBI report.

Have you been in any like foreign intelligence try to contact you or manipulate you in any kind of.

Way, not that I'm aware of.

But any odd people and trying to insert themselves.

Into your life, well other than the people trying my doorknob.

Six people now between midnight and one guy at three point thirty in the morning.

And they look like typical homeless people from the neighborhood.

But you look at them and you realize they aren't homeless.

They're just dressed that way to slip past the security cameras in the neighborhood.

And do you have homeless people in your neighborhood or is that unusual?

Oh?

Yeah, yeah, it's a low income predominantly neighborhood.

You know it's common.

But yeah, let.

Me ask a question now, back to the whole Sasha Barrows thing.

Is it possible you were friends with Lisa Folding back in twenty twenty four on Facebook?

Not that I recall, it's possible.

I used to have five thousand, you know, the limit of friends on there, and I was like, this is crazy.

There's no way I can keep up with any of this, so I trimmed it back to about I think it was like six or seven hundred people.

Now it's back up to like thirty two hundred I think or something.

Well, what would you make of that?

Like, you know, if there was some information that you were friends with her back in twenty twenty four, prior to her meeting Sasha Barrows and prior to your story coming out, that would be a really wild coincidence.

Went in, Well, that would be wild.

Then it's possible that I said, I don't remember everybody's name, and we're friends with on Facebook.

I couldn't even tell you of them are now?

So you and I are friends now?

Okay?

And I notice you like to comment on some of my stuff.

Yeah, I'm trying to You're a very interesting guy.

You think so?

You think?

So?

Uh?

Is that good or bad?

I mean that in a good way.

Okay, I am I've had to be interesting.

I mean it in a good way.

I hope it's a good way.

I don't know you personally, I've had a very very very interesting life, you know, and thank God for that, and since then it gets more interesting every day of the week.

Okay, my friend Dan.

Uh for re, we talked about Jim Jordan produced a second.

We only got five minutes left, man, Okay, we got to keep it tight.

So what do you want to tell?

So the most thing on your heart right now?

You want people to know?

Jim Jordan's Yeah.

As as we got close to that building, and Jim Jordan says, so have you ever had sex with a baby?

That yeah, yeah, yeah, And I wasn't very nice to that question.

But any indications of drug use.

With Jordan, oh, I don't know that I personally aware of, would mean yeah.

There's a very interesting connection between him and Epstein and Wexner too.

You know, uh the OSU uh college they had got a big donation from Epstein and less Wexner, who's connected to Epstein.

Uh, wow, I didn't know that.

I know, dude, a lot of people don't know he was because I worked on some of that stuff too.

I had all the guests on my show that the lawyers and the plaintiffs and stuff.

So that's as soon as I heard this stuff about coming up with the Jim Jordan with Sasha Barrows, and when you mentioned it too, like it just you know it is there with this fella.

You know.

The one thing that sticks in my mind about Sasha Barrows Briley is that he took like a big wooden tent steak with a condom on.

It and.

Rammed it up Trump's darier and Trump had to Trump had to be life flighted.

Hey, was that before or after you met Trump?

Then?

Did you notice you notice a pig sticking out of.

His I'm from what I understand, that would have been before ninety five, so he would have had.

That injury before he met you.

Right, And when I break checked Trump and put him in the floorboard of that car, Uh, he no doubt he crapped all over himself because his stint level increased.

Manifold, Well, then what.

About this if Lisa and Sasha I have been in touch with the Oversight Committee.

Have you been in touch with the oversight or has Lisa tried to put you in touch with her friends at the overside.

She may have tried, but they haven't reached out to me.

Hm, you haven't heard from anybody over there.

Would you be would you be willing to put your statement together for the overset Committee?

Oh?

Absolutely yeah.

Put me in front of Congress, put me in front of the Supreme Court, put me on national TV.

I'll tell the whole story.

And how did they contact you when Lisa contacted you?

Was it over the phone?

Was it Facebook?

How did she reach out to.

You over Facebook?

Over fokay?

So she might actually work for Trump camp.

I don't know what makes you say that, because I have my suspense, well.

Because I don't know her personally.

I don't know who these people are personally.

I'm you know, and that is that is uh, that's that's very common of the type of tactics that Freemasonry uses.

So if she had become a friend of us back in twenty twenty four, you think that was like a preemptive tried to like I guess what would you call it?

Like a good undercover with you before your your good came.

I don't know, my first my first Facebook account that I'd had for like ten years or something, just disappeared when I became out spoken about Trump the first time in twenty sixteen.

Just gone.

That's, you know, explanation other than violated community policy or something, you know, no recourse whatsoever.

Just gone.

And the sad thing about that is I had a lot of personal photos and stuff of family, et cetera that I've got no way of ever recovering.

Yeah, now when they when they take down your Facebook page, they give you the opportunity to download your stuff at least, you know, just how nice is that, you know, But still, well, back in the old days, yeah, you were just totally screwed.

But now, did you have any suspicions when you were talking to Lisa, did you think, well, during the conversation, were you on edge because you've got a pretty you're pretty savvy guy, You've got a pretty good judge of character.

She didn't give me any indication of it.

Really, I'm just you know, considering the the the considering the people that have been handling Donald Trump since he was a very young person, meaning the heads of Freemasonry, considering the tactics that they use.

I'm always suspicious, always and that if she if.

You were on her radar back in twenty twenty four, would you be concerned about Sasha being handled by her today.

I'm concerned about him because he is so open about everything that went on.

I'm concerned about anybody that has valid information about Donald Trump and that group of people.

I'm concerned about myself.

I'm not I'm not.

I'm not kidding you.

I mean, I'm not.

Kidding you either.

Bro.

I'm concerned about myself.

And I've been doing this a long time and I was just talking to somebody the other day.

This will maybe a bridge too far for good old at Operaman.

This may be the one.

Well, I wouldn't be too I wouldn't be too concerned about that, because you know, this is all going to come out eventually, somebody with the actual ironclad evidence is going to go, hey, I'm so sorry I was involved in this.

Please forgive me.

World.

Here you go, and the Trump camp and the head the Premasonry are going to be hard to find a safe place to be anywhere on this planet when it comes out.

So I doubt they're going to come at me too hard because if they do the discovery and what happened to me, yeah, that's not going to be good.

So Dan Free, we are at a time.

But I got like a minute, okay?

Can I give you a minute?

You take twenty minutes, okay, But what would you like to leave us with in a minute, my friend.

For everybody on the planet to do deep, deep soul searching and adhere to a gape type of love for their fellow human beings.

That's paramount right now on this planet everywhere, Dan, real quick.

You seem to be a man of faith.

Have you always been a man of faith?

That it was just something new?

Wow.

I first did little trot down to the altar when I was four years old, shortly after learning about human death, and did the proverbial Sinner's prayer with Pastor day Logue in the First Church of the Nazarene in Tulsa, Oklahoma at thirteenth and South Delaware Avenue.

And I was as serious as a four year old could be.

You know, I understood nothing really about faith except John three sixteen.

And you know, since then, I've never lost that faith, even though I've I ran around doing all kinds of crazy stuff in my life.

You know that definitely doesn't line up with the teachings of Christ.

But the evidence that he you know that our creator, God, all of the ahway, the great Spirit, big giant head.

Whatever the nectar you want to use to get there is fine.

Nobody knows his real name anyway.

Jesus of Nazareth the Christ described him as being pure love or love where God is love.

I think we're the exact words.

Yeah, so you know that's that's something we need to really examine as the human race is.

You know, that's a human being over there that's starving to death.

Maybe I should reach in my pocket and help this person.

Yeah, Dan, I cannot agree with you more on that one.

And it's just how we we can live with ourselves.

We're all going to be judged by this.

We stepped over these homeless people just saying get our Starbucks called from We just look the other way and just say smart breaking that we've.

Quit buying anything from Starbucks.

They don't Donald.

Trump, but mister Dan far we are out of time.

I did it again, bro, I went over again with you.

We got to have you on more.

Okay, listen, Dan Free, thank you so much.

You're welcome, Sir Can, I say,