It gets no better than this.

You are now in June to perspectives with big bang Bang.

Let's get straight to it.

Welcome to respective back today.

I got a special special guests all the way from west west side of Baltimore.

You know what I'm saying, Chantell Green, Doctor Chantel Green.

How you doing beautiful?

How are you?

I'm blessed?

How you feeling?

I'm great?

Great to be here too.

Before we get started.

Always teck people mental, but your mental that right now?

I'm good?

What makes you good?

Just I'm always at peace, regardless of circumstances a situation.

I keep my mind at peace.

Yeah, you say, you feel like we're gonna get into a lady.

But everything that could have broken you already went through that.

Right, everything really shit everything.

They take it back to West Baltimore.

What was it like stepping outside as a kid, Like, what did you see as a little kid?

I had a great life.

And then you know, the crack epidemic hit Baltimore at an all time high.

And the crazy part, my mother and my dad got sworn into the crack apidemic, turning from crack to heroin.

So I'm a product of two heroin addicts.

Yeah, how did that affect you?

It made me go into survival mode.

Uh, you know at fourteen I started hustling, Uh from aviction otis.

I was fourteen and we had a viction otis and uh from that day forward that I've been a hustler every since.

Was you did you have siblings?

Yes?

O little brother Oh little brothers.

So you felt like it was your it was your dude was good?

Yes?

So at fourteen jumped out the port, basically.

Jumped way off the beach, too far off the fort.

You came out of port at fourteen, you came out hustling, basically hustling.

And what was that?

What was your hustle choice?

I sold morphine.

We were the only morphine.

Like you go in the hospital.

Oh, we put you down.

You get it.

New York, you know, come on now, New York, New York.

Back then we talked about the eighties.

New York was the drug empire.

So everything you got, you got it from New York and they transported it to Baltimore.

Okay, so Baltimore, that's that's like that DMV too right.

They say that, but really not.

Baltimore is in the class by itself.

Separate from d C is DC, Virginia.

Yeah, in Maryland, DC, in Virginia, No, I love d C.

But it's it's different.

It's just it's a different It's a whole different ball game.

What's the difference.

Baltimore is more raw?

Uh.

I love my city, but it's crabs in the borough.

It's just unspeakable.

You can't even you.

Would never make But that's hairwell though, Yeah, it is everywhere.

But I mean my experience, it's been bad for me.

Like everybody I ever looked out for kid about cross me.

Yeah, come with it like that's everywhere I get it.

Yeah, it didn't come with it.

Yeah, but I wasn't born like that or raised like that.

I'm a loyal person, so it's a little different for me to experience that because I'm not gonna give you that.

Yeah, def would make it hurt worse when you know I would have never did that to you have.

Yeah, that makes it hurt when they worse.

So you said fourteen, You come on, when did you really start get money?

Probably when I was fifteen.

Fourteen was just like survival mold trial back by her mother, backed up eight months in rent.

I need to get eight months of rent to this landlord and then I should have got out, but just seeing me being able to pay my mother's bills, it turned into addiction.

So it's just like, you know, I was I was the first person in Batimore with a Bentley and I was a little girl, you know what I mean.

So I just got this car fetish.

I mean every car they ever had, I bought it.

And it was just like I just got into that money making world where if I wanted it, I bought it, and I got addicted to that lifestyle.

And you know, I kind of neglected my mother because you know, when that money started coming in, you just forget about everybody.

It's like you God, it's like everybody acknowledges you.

A certain kind of way.

And here she come with she driving to day.

You just forget about the stuff that's important and that got wrapped up into that world.

Let me ask you some how did you did?

You had to build a team, right because you're a female, young kid hustling and you know, like you said, it's crafts in the bucket.

How did who the people who did you put around you to make sure you were secure?

Well, I'm gonna be honest.

I I didn't come out hustling for me at first.

So my uncle was like really big time, like really big time in Baltimore.

So I was under my uncle.

I made him a lot of money, like so much money that when I left him, he started getting high.

So yeah, I made him a lot of money.

I was young, so he took advantage of me to seventy thirty stuff.

So I had to get what's the word that we call I had to get pimped in order to realize if I'm making him this, cut him out the picture, I can really be making this.

That was college.

Yeah, I love learned the whole game.

Right, So I think after I realized what I can make for me, that's when I really started getting money because I learned to go to New York.

I learned to catch the train.

I learned who the players was to bring it back for me.

So I actually got good at it, you know what I mean, really got good at it.

But it became my life and it shouldn't have why because at that time I became a mother at fifteen, So I'm hustling and I'm becoming a brand new mother at the same time, and as being a brand new mother.

I'm buying my daughter everything.

Pelly Peal Jake is coolgie sweater, like this child she's never not had, never in her life, paying for houses everything.

But I was camouflaging my pain and really not taking care of my daughter the way I should have been, because I was just buying her everything to cover up the pain I felt.

But it was given her pain because I was buying her but I wasn't there.

Yeah, so that's where I went wrong.

So so who had her while he was.

Hustling my grandmother?

OK?

Yeah, everybody grandma.

But it's like, y'all best.

Friend that though, right, we have gotten to that point where I'm so glad that we are best friends.

That's like, that's why I hang, I go out of town.

I grave her, Like that's my that's my.

Role, me and my son.

The same way.

These chicks ain't loyal.

Oh no, nobody ain't.

What's it's something in the water, It's in the food.

The family the worst though, family a whole nother subject saying what's that you've seen family do?

That just made you be like, damn?

So family.

Killed her father had it done, It was done in front of her.

She actually witnessed her father.

It's murder and it was set up by his sister.

His sister.

Why what money is proven?

Though?

Oh yeah she was dad?

Okay, Oh damn.

Yeah.

So I my cousin, he was homeless.

I put him in a house I got my grandmother died, left me her property adventures, fixed the house up.

Put my cousin.

He embezzled one point eight million dollars from my business.

Put the fast on me because he thought if the fast on me, I won't find out that he's he embezzled the money.

So then I had a whole federal investigation.

I've been out the streets for thirty years.

What y'all, what y'all want?

What y'all looking for?

Oh so so that wasn't hushling money that he stole.

He's no this legit money.

Yeah, you know.

So he embezzled one point eight million dollars in business and that's recent.

Who did that?

My cousin first cousin you already know.

But I can't be that way.

Yeah, yeah, years and you know I got you know.

This, How did he get a chance to even do that?

Though?

Computers?

You know, these young ones, they really suave a with this computer.

And see I'm old.

I'm in my fifties.

I wasn't raised on computers.

I can type a little something, but all that fixing this and changing numbers and make no, I don't know.

So did they did they ensure and pay your money back?

No, it's still it's still an ongoing battle.

It was just crazy how he did it.

He he just did the ultimate.

It's a story that's.

It's just crazy.

Could you forgive him?

Never?

Never?

I have to pray every day that my street ways don't come back.

Yeah, so I pray every day on it.

That's your whole test for your whole journey right there.

You know that that's the test because you do anything that's a crashot move.

Yeah, it ain't nothing but the text from the game that you took from the game.

You know what I'm saying.

It's hard.

No, I would feel that test.

No, you know how hard it is.

My husband is me.

We we the exact absent.

So my husband was on a rich porter case.

So he got life plus forty.

He gave back all the twenty seven years.

Then he went back and got his co defenders out.

And it's a test for both of us.

That's dope, Like it's it's it's it's a test for both of us.

He was the Baltimore China White He was arrested under the China White Boys.

Okay, damn, so that that was federal too, right.

Yeah, and he when he came home, well, he got out.

Second, he studied law in jail.

Then he went back and got all his cold defendants.

Huh, that's dope.

And all of them had double life getting.

I had a wonderful sentence and to save my life.

That's why i'm'a say it was wonderful.

So I was always at a student, like when I hustled, I had a driver, you know, before I was able to drive, and he would always tell me, I know you in these streets, but don't never stop going to school.

So I like always listen to him, like I never missed a day of school in my life.

So when I finally went to court, and you know, I was supposed to get some time, a lot of time, and they looked at m my lawyer pas into my grades.

I had one of the best lawyers in Baltimore.

I retained my lawyer at fifteen, so I had one of the best lawyers in Baltimore.

So he introduced my grades.

So the judge looked at my grades and took a recess.

But what I found out later, the judge and my lawyer was really close, which which is really good.

Yeah, so what he did he gave me a sentence where I went to jail Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday and then I had to No, I was home Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday because he allowed me to go to school.

But I had to go to jail on Friday, Saturday.

And Sunday.

So what age did you catch your cay.

Twenty twenty one?

Okay, yep, so damn.

That was a good judge.

But guess what But guess what?

It was for something I didn't even do.

I wasn't even into that type.

I never got I never got well, I got arrested for drugs, I never got found guilty for drugs.

I wind up getting time for bank robbery.

And we know I ain't robbing no banks, no snitching in Baltimore, Maryland.

So you know what you think dropped the people to you to like just want to spend their money with you?

What you mean like when you was hustling, you know, because you got to have a certain aura for people to be people, for people to be your.

And I had the good stuff.

Yeah, I had the good ship.

That's why it came to me.

It was good.

Yeah yeah, So what was your what was your dude?

Was?

Was your baby daddy hustled with you before he got killed?

No?

Uh no, we he hustled, but we hustled.

We sold different things.

Okay, yeah we we I sold morphine, he sold.

We sold So you never you never went outside of the morphine?

No, No, was you like the only one up there?

No?

It was well, the strip that I hustled on, it was a morphine strip is the only morphine stripping in Baltimore.

So we had people coming from all over just the just the cop morphine back then.

Damn.

So you're getting paid off your same story.

Now pretty much.

But I don't, you know, I like to tell a bad with it.

I don't want to make people think you hustle, you make a bunch of money.

Hell no, Like I didn't been kidnapped.

I didn't been Oh my poor baby.

In college, they call it your mother kidnapped.

They got amber alert out for your for your mother I didn't been through a lot through this.

I mean that doesn't look like it though.

Yeah, I don't look like what I've been through, But I've been through a lot.

Guns to my head, rab broken into your house, you know, everything that come with the game.

I've been through it.

How you maintained, how you feel like you maintain your senity through all.

This shit went back then on now.

Just both then in there.

Now I look at my mistakes and I know not to make them again.

A lot of people people talk about hustling and they say they was hustling.

My hustle was a survival.

It wasn't I'm hustling to get rich.

I really hustled to survive.

I had no one, and I had a brother and I had a daughter, So it was something I had to do.

Like I was paying rent at fourteen.

You know what I'm saying.

It's like now.

But I created a certain kind of lifestyle, and that's that's that's the bad part about it, because once you hustle, Like my first house, I had a single family home, swimming pool, movie theater.

I was twenty two years old.

You know what I'm saying, cash not no mutggage.

I bought my house cash.

I was gon to Ben's dealer and I had somebody's name, an older guy.

He was in the military.

I gone to Ben's dealer.

I didn't even buy you's cars.

And my man, you know, my way with the pure yeah.

We So it's just like.

When I transition into being a better person, and because I've been out the streets for thirty years, but bills and credit and you know, car payments and well I'm getting a little.

Bit used to it, you know, paying our eyes.

So it's just it's it's like a shell shot to me.

I'm getting there because it's been a long time, but it's it's a total shell shot to me.

Now let me ask you, so, how many people along the way that just couldn't get with the new person that.

You had to be?

Nobody can nobody?

How did that make you feel?

I used to be depressed about it.

I just think like making money is in me.

Like I opened up my first business fifteen years ago.

I was in Forbes.

Last year two years ago as one of the top growing agencies in the world.

You know what I'm saying, thank you.

So I open up this business and then I employed head for my city.

And then I piggyback off of that business, and I open up another business, and then I piggyback off that business, and I opened up my third business.

So all three of my businesses.

You know, hustles are the smartest people in the room for real, you know that.

So it's just like, I open up these three multi million dollar businesses.

I was cool when I hustle, but I ain't have to pay taxes so I can get people give shit away.

But now I'm working.

I got a million dollar tax bills.

I got to pay the rs.

It's a different ball game.

I can't give you what I used to give you because I'm different.

This shit ain't coming these it ain't gonna go easy.

And everybody got their handout.

And the worst part is they take it out on my daughter.

Oh my god, her music.

My daughter is great with music.

Like she's great with music.

She been doing music since she was eight years old.

So names we won't say, but you know them, they had a problem with me all day life.

You know, they made it big in the industry and uh just had a sexual harassment case against him.

So I'm gonna give you a little hint.

Yeah, I'm gona give you a little hint.

So because of who I used to be, they didn't like me.

So they black balled my daughter and like they had her set up to rap on the Preakness opening for Meg.

They called me two days before, like, oh, we took your daughter off, but I knew why they took her off.

And they did this, and they did this, and it was always some stuff.

So I said, you know, I like, I'm never gonna hurt my daughter, like I don't care.

My daughter.

She got paid for a house and she got a penthouse.

That's my daughter.

You know.

She got well, she got a BMW brandy.

Guess why they hate that though.

But my daughter, oh all the shit I did to her, she walked across the stage, she got a degree, she went to college.

I owe her that.

She don't even like me.

Doing that, But I'm a daughter because my daughter not gonna struggle like I struggle.

Everybody have an issue with that, but y'all don't know my struggle.

And I'm gonna make it right for my daughter.

My businesses they gonna go to my daughter.

She gonna learn how to run them, and she gonna rock these businesses when I'm gone, so like I said, they black balled my daughter.

So I go on my thinking mold you know how it is, and guess what I did.

I sat down.

I called my director from BT Trap Queens because we got.

Really close, and I called.

I said, I want to do a movie.

So she said, okay, well let me Howler at Paramount, let me holler at sun Dance.

She said, cause you know everybody wanted the movie, you know BT.

I said, no, I don't want.

To do my movie.

Need my daughter movie.

She said okay, she said, well, you know they want your movie.

I said, no, I need to do my daughter movie.

So she said, I might say call nobody.

I said, I got four hundred thousand dollars budget.

Let's make it happen.

So for those that blackball my daughter for a movie too, oh no, this is different.

You know what I'm saying.

I'm saying.

I'm saying, like you're gonna have a real movie.

Oh yea yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

So I called Andrea Hell which was my director BT Trap queen.

I said, get the real I said, get the real deal team on this project.

And I'm under the NDA, so I can't.

I mean, we got the big, big ballers.

When this movie come out.

We start filming January January twenty seventh, the whole thing, about the whole thing in Baltimore.

It's called Through the Eyes of a Hustler's Daughter.

That's her and you get her side of the store.

Is it gonna be more?

Is it gonna be more?

More of a documentary style.

Of straight movie?

Yeah, straight movie, And we got you know, when we set out to cast it, I was surprised of who they came back with, so, like, really, she wanted to do this, So we got some real big ballers in this movie.

So all everybody that tried to black ball my baby, you ain't black balling my baby because guess what I'm here.

You can't black ball her.

Are you gonna act in it?

No?

At the end, she come out in the end, she come out in at the the her daughter did she has a daughter?

So my granddaughter is playing a young hair do.

Yeah.

Hen I'm ready to see that.

So bottom of let me see so the streets of bottom one, Do you feel as if though you're making up for times that you that you messed up?

I used to try, yeah, and I used to think that I could.

But you can't make up a time.

You just got to be better, you.

Know, Like I know, I know the wrong that I have done.

I know that I wasn't there.

But I think now my daughter realized I know why my mother wasn't there.

Now, I don't think she realized that when she was young, like my mother wind up dying from AIDS, you know what I'm saying.

So it's just like, you know, then I went back to school, I got an associates bachelor's master's doctrine.

And then she went back to school, you know, and got her degree.

So I think she get it now, like she don't realize she didn't realize a lot of my sacrifices was really only because of her.

Nah.

Yeah, Now, why you tell my boys all the time they were young, You're gonna get it when you get older.

You know what I'm saying.

You might not understanding them, but when you get your own struggle, you'll get Nurses are us the business empire?

That's you?

Right.

Did she write a book?

Yes, Okay, what's the name of the book.

It's called Mastermind.

But I had to take it down.

Why police in Baltimore City what they are saying because a lot of my A lot of my story had to deal with a lot of crooked police.

So it was like when I wrote the book, Uh, they raided one of my family members houses through her firs in the bathtub, and you know, it was a lot of things that was gonna be told in that that that book that I don't think they wanted to hear.

But it's coming back.

Would you would would would you ever?

Would you ever move?

Move out of Baltimore?

I don't live in Baltimore.

I live in a town called Rices Town.

It's like an ol way.

I lived with the farms and the horses and they.

Wear the Trump supporters live and I stay in my.

Little do you do you ever?

Do you ever visit a lot?

Oh?

Yeah, My businesses are in Baltimore, So it's like I gotta go there.

But if I if I had businesses in there, I probably wouldn't.

Okay, if you have been, you probablyouldn't go.

So So what time would you move to if you did move?

If you did decide the more where I'm at Rice is town.

Oh, you wouldn't move out of from up that way?

Period?

Yeah, because it's different.

It's it's Rice to town.

It's like a whole different world.

Like people got horses, you know, farms.

It's it's it's like that.

It's not like the city.

You might see two black people out there, might see two night three, you might see three.

It's like ForSight, kawitis and shit like that down here.

Yeah, like the guy that lived behind me, he forgot his name, but he played for Kansas City, so you'll see like so like it's a judge live.

Up the street from me.

So it's like our houses is like so far away from each other.

So it's like I'm in my own world.

What's the biggest difference between running like a street in a prize and a real like your businesses?

The truth business is worse.

It is you got more letters look looking at you because of this business is much worse.

Streets is bad because you.

Got the police, you got the karate people, you got to stick up boys, you got the fake friends but were not handling board this business.

You got the ore ass, you got.

Scammers, you got the unemployment people, you got the if you don't take the retirement out.

I mean every week they coming at me every week, they always, and I'm always ready for them.

So I'm not supposed to be this color having a business like that in Baltimore, Maryland.

Yes, you are, I mean I am, but they don't.

They don't think when some stuff hit the fan with my business and they realize because I'm smart, Like I hire the retired FBI agent to keep my business in line.

And she's from out of Florida, but she worked for the FBI for thirty years.

She was a supervisory agent out in Louisiana.

So she keep my stuff intact.

So every time they come, we always ready because my paperwork is spotless.

Yeah, but she ain't gonna let me slip.

That's why I don't what's breakdown.

Nurses or US Nurses.

Of US is a home healthcare agency, So we basically go into the houses of the patients.

I send nurses in there to take care of them.

And then we have a daycare portion where they go to a dealt medical daycare where they get their medication, they do their physical therapy, speech therapy, whatever they.

Need to do.

They go on trips.

And then I have a psychiatric rehabilitation center which has an o inmate C so I deal with the you know, people with mental illness and have different programs of IOP, PRP and all these other things.

Now you said, you alswer that.

Business is harder, But I'm saying, what's the difference, like in mindset to you, I'm gonna.

Go back to that.

You gotta be sharp in business.

You gotta be sharp in the street.

But it's a different kind of shop.

Like everybody's like, why you always go to school like that?

Because I just got my doctrine, but I'm ready to go back again, and because i want the syche part.

Okay, I need to sight.

But I realized, like.

To me, education didn't make me any money.

I'm gonna be honest, but it got me in rooms like a lot of doctors.

They the doctors before I was a doctor.

I was a nurse.

At first, I'm the doctor's like.

Oh my god, that's you like, but it gets me in the rooms that I'm not supposed to be in or people think I'm not supposed to be in.

That healing.

How do you deal with resentment?

First of all, how do you deal with people that resent you for you being you?

Like I said, I stay by myself a lot.

I just I'm just at peace.

I don't I don't.

I don't even know how to describe, like, I've learned how people are and they're going to be that way.

They don't understand unity.

Most of them are not gonna say all.

But a lot of the people that I ain't coounted.

So I do a lot of me time.

You know, I got a husband, we good.

I got my daughter, my little grandbaby good.

What's triggers though?

Oh god, my trigger is is when somebody challenged me.

The thing with people in Baltimore, everybody know my history.

They know I can't get in trouble, so everybody want to try me.

Like this new internet Instagram, everybody is an Instagram gangster.

See, I ain't used to that.

I ain't used to I mean, weans, we meet up, we face see this.

Yeah, I'm just not used to that.

Fake pages and that's new to me.

Oh well, that's the worst, right, Oh my god.

What else?

What's the biggest misconception that people might have of you?

People think I'm stuck and conceited or this or that or this or that, and then when they meet me, they'd be like, oh my gosh, she cool as shit.

Oh I ain't know you was that cool.

I ain't know you.

That's it.

They think I'm a certain way, but I'll never be that way.

I'm me all the time.

I come right in the room and I'm gonna work it.

So what you think your super strength.

Are, Oh, that's a lot.

I think running a business, opening businesses, starting businesses, making money.

That's what I learned.

My superstrength is.

Would you say you was born to hustle?

Yeah?

Definitely.

Let me say this.

You know when we when we as good as certain things, I think we get annoyed with people because they're not that good.

Like you.

You're a born hustler, right, You're gonna make you some money regards, no matter what you feel it's in and it kind of annoys us that people just can't get certain ship right, Like why you just don't do this?

But some people ain't got it right, that's true, and some people just ain't got what you got.

So me, I had to realize that on Special Bank I came out first.

I was a breach birth breach baby.

So I'm different.

You know what I'm saying.

You gotta realize that you're different.

And like you said, let people I just got that from you to they let people be who they gonna be.

Man, that's where you be at peace at right.

Can't change.

How was it being on the show the track queen, I.

Don't want to get on tra queens.

Actually they kind of you know, asked me real hard, and then it made sense because I was the type I would hide my past, but like I would, I would try to.

I tried to work thing for a while that ain't worked with me.

But I became a registered nurse and this was like after I got out of finished in the jail.

Thing I had to do and people would notice me.

But I would put no on an application because I got a governor's spartan and then they.

Would fire me.

Made the governor to give your partner.

Because I completed college as I supposed to.

Well, the judge that I had judge previous, he made that a part of the deal that I had to finish college and then I can finish my weekends.

Yea.

So being a wife, you always felt like you want to be a wife.

I'm married twice and I had one husband just he just didn't have it.

You know, the hustle.

You know, I tried to get a good guy that was different from me.

Because they say opposite the track, No, I sister you're not a track.

He did not a track.

We just like I'm the type of wife like my my husband.

He's so used to me, like I can be sleep and if I've got a money making move coming in, I'm gonna jump up.

I got to go.

I got to I got to figure this out because this is that and he respect that because he respect where I come from.

My other husband.

I thought my first husband, I thought having somebody that was good on paper job, you know, he showings, ain't never been out there, and then he got so jealous of me that he wanted to be out there in the streets and he wasted.

He get thirty something to want to be a street Do you like competing with me?

So that ain't work.

That's weird.

It's tough being my husband.

Trust me, it's real tough.

What makes it?

What's your son?

Okay?

Yeah, it's no, it's real tough.

It's tough because it's like my husband that I have now.

He did twenty something years and fads, so you know, people wanted to do his story, you know, far As with Rich Porter and China, white Boys and all of that, and he's like, no, I don't want to do none of that.

I'm home.

He just want to go to work, take care of the dogs, and he just nasty.

Food that he likes.

Yet he came laid back, cool, selective.

I'm just different.

But he respected because he come from the hustle.

I'm young.

I'm a little younger than him.

So he respect this is her like this where she been?

I respect it.

Yeah, he just enjoying.

Yeah, yeah, burnt out.

Yeah, he burned out.

He don't want no smoke, but he just he just chill.

But it's just, you know me, it's just you know, I haven't heard that.

That lifestyle, and it's just, you know, it's hard to get away from it.

So then I got daughter, I got a granddaughter.

So it's just like, did.

You ever was it ever time that you like almost be slided back to the streets?

Oh?

One hundred thousand times?

What kept you from doing?

I'm gonna say my grandmother because I ain't really care about nothing else.

But yeah, you always want to backclad you go to a job, and I think my first job, I was a nurse.

I was making like thirty five dollars an hour.

They took half from my check for Texas like good time, like what tu?

Yeah, like what you know, you're playing your money out and I'm new at it, and I'm like, all right, number, do this something to do that?

Man?

I got that check, I said, Lord, I got to go back.

Outside at least at least half halfway.

Yeah, they they something with them taxes.

Yeah.

So I knew I couldn't work for a person and because that wasn't enough money.

And then I knew I had to open my own business.

So I turned my street hustle into a business hustle and then it worked.

What was your prayer like that?

You did you promise God that you won't leave it alone once you got caught up.

I don't think.

I don't think I knew you for a long time.

That I was all the way out because when I got out, it was it was very bad for me, like going from one income to another and call payments, car insurance.

See, I wasn't used.

To that, so that was like a real psychological event for me.

It was it was bad.

And then getting caught for the ship that you didn't do, you still feel like you're good at what you didn't get.

Caught for us.

So I was like, man, I could do that because I know how to do this shit right, yep, Nah, But that was it was tough.

It was it was.

It was tough.

It was real tough.

What was the most rewarding part about being a hustle, size of money, street hustle.

I don't think it was no reward because I lost my mother ignoring.

I just always felt like, when I first start her saying I knew my mother was shooting up, I would shoot her up myself because I'd rather me do it than her to go outside and get a dirty needle.

So once I got so into the money, I just let my mother go, And I always blame myself that damn I would have saved my mother if I'd have kept doing it my way once she got outside, she using dirty needles or however she got it, I don't know, but I just always felt that way, like if I would have not been so involved in the streets, I could have saved my mother.

If you could change one thing, if you go back and change one thing.

I know we don't weren't supposed to live with regrets, but we all got them.

People say they don't, but we all.

Do you change one thing, what would it be?

I would have let my mother get evicted.

You would have let her get evicted.

That mean you would never win in the street?

Answer what you were to did whatever whatever happens, would have had to live with my grandmother finished school.

I mean, I'm not mad.

That I resulted to the street because I got life lesson, but the results of me being in the street it wasn't good.

Like I'm sitting here talking to you like I'm this nice person.

My daughter always saying the interviews, Oh my mother wasn't always like that.

I was a master.

Yeah.

You know, you get you get you get.

To a certain level in your life or the money, you forget about who you are.

You turn into this other person.

And I remember always being that other person.

What what qualities did your husband had to make you feel like you want to marry him?

The second one?

Yeah, seconde oh, we just to like it's like here a little different because he been in jail, so he ABCD like twenty something years straight.

Everything is, everything is clean, but el thinking is just to like we two people that just wanted to change our lives.

Our conversation is the same.

He can relate to what I've been through, I can relate to what he been through.

I can't relate to sitting in federal prison for twenty seven years, but I can relate to why he went.

You know what I'm saying, because our stories are similar.

Do you feel like.

Your journey led you to the place you at now in order to beat his wife?

Or you think you could have been the same waye before as soon as you got out of prison.

No, I couldn't have been the same way.

What's the difference now?

Yeah, looking back at life, I always look now, I'm gonna say, I am more what's the word we use, like grown up?

I'm more grown up where I can look back at me and see what I needed to change.

I can look back and see where I was wrong, because you know, when you out there and doing this and doing that, you're never wrong.

Everything you do is right.

And it's like now I can say, oh, I shouldn't have did that, or oh I wouldn't have did that, or oh that was horrible, and I can make myself better on my own just looking back at what I was doing that was fucked up.

One last question before I get baby girl him.

When you look in the mirror, what's the first thing you take accountability?

For when it comes to you change change.

I'm definitely a product of change.

Yeah, nah, that's dope.

Thny people to follow you at and where it comes to you at.

Hey, I am.

Sean Tell Underscore Green, doctor Shan Tell Green, but it's it's Sean Tell Underscore Green.

I am a doctor, but I just I don't know.

I ain't there yet.

It just happened May So I'm still in the state of shock that.

I made it here.

Okay, but you about to go get your other degree to psyche.

Yeah, people like me, you know.

Yeah, you like the throat.

I'm regularmatical, but I'm going to do a psych rotation.

Okay.

I think that's dope.

I think your story is extremely dope too.

And I like that you walked in with your baby.

Man.

I like that coming my son together.

Yes, won't come in and fuck with me, come in and with them, saving full them with me?

What's that?

What's up?

Yeah?

You're good.

Where the namety Savage come from.

That's what my birth certificate, my real name to share Savage, that's what my birth certificate.

Let me see it.

I'm got it.

But if we get pulled over, it's not And I showed them my license, they gonna say something.

People might think, people would think that's a rap name.

Huh, I've got that.

Like they'll say, like did y'all sit together and come up with this name.

I'll be like my sister savage, my father is savage.

Do you do you live by the definition of your name.

I try not to, but it's in me.

I'll be trying.

I'll try to kill out because I got a daughter now and my mother, Like my mother changed, so she don't be wanting me to be on the same type of time like she wants me to be different.

I was just trying to try to ease all little worries a little bit.

But it's whatever, especially like if you mess with her, like she real calm my mother, like she tried chill, but I don't be with that.

Like if you play with my mother, we're gonna take it.

No, I don't know this version of my mother no.

Like I mean, I love it.

I know it now.

But see that the I am the way I am because I fell in love with like who she was.

You gotta think like I had a mother when she stepped out, she was that nigga, Like it's grown men that could tell me, like when your mother was outside, I couldn't hustle because everybody liked her.

Everybody went to her.

She was like a man, and.

Then she took over the block before she went to school.

Like I remember, like I got a own what they say, I used to couldn't wait till your mother went to school because that's when I make all my money.

But if I got out there to you early, I couldn't make a dollar.

So it's like my mother, she always been her now.

She like she was speaking earlier on like basically I like, you know, and that's most parents were thinking.

Monetarily can take up for the things that kids really need.

That you fought her for a lot of stuff back then.

At first I did.

But it's different, like with your parents.

It's like even when they do wrong and you get mad, you still won't always like love your parents regardless.

It was the same with my dad though, like they both were so into the streets.

They just thought if I had things, that's what mattered.

But I used to just want my parents, like I ain't really care about all that other stuff because I had it anyway, so this stuff came easy.

So people would hate me.

For being spoiled.

And I used to be like, damn y'old on Christmas and your mother there, my mother was hustling, like my mother can't be at everything.

And then.

Like I would go to school and kids knew my life or what was going on because they sit around adults who speak in front of kids and they bring it back to school.

Like I remember I had to meet with like I can't remember what they called, but it's like if they might take you, because kids at school was talking about my mother and my father hustling like you only yeah, you only got this.

You only like dressed like this, so you only got this because her mother sow drugs.

And while they think that's funny, I'm like damn, Like I got to.

Meet with somebody in the office later about the shit you said, So it just be a little different.

And I just always been down to protect my parents.

Like like when my mother say like no snitching, like you gotta think like when it comes to your parents, Like I never been down to let my parents get in trouble or go like even when my father died.

My father died, he got killed in front of me, and I watched the nigga that killed him died.

My father killed the nigga.

That kill him before he died, oh right down, yeah, And I just remember I never thought that my father would die, So I remember, like, if this go down, he can't go back to jail.

My father got killed and I told but he just came home in March and he was fighting life plus twenty five and we beat that.

So it's like, I can't let you go to jail.

I remember saying, I gotta get this gun out of here because if he make it.

However, this nigga got shot at sixteen.

Oh yeah, So I just like, I feel like all my life, I'm like, they were so young, so I'm like, I gotta protect him, and it they all I got.

If anything happened to them, I ain't got nobody else.

So the whole time you're thinking like he might pull through, I knew he was going to pull through.

Yeah, Like right before that, somebody tried to kidnap my father then and another situation, somebody tried to kidnap my mother.

With the situation with my father, he fought when he knew they was gonna take him.

They shot him nine times.

They shot him in his face.

They shot him everywhere, and I remember he just told me like and him my mother wasn't together, but he told me like, if they take me, they're gonna make my baby mother pay all his money and still kill me.

And I just remember just always feeling like he could beat anything.

So the day that he died, you could have never told me that to heaven, could have never told yeah.

Like we riding to the hospital, I'm like, man, we're good.

You feel we're gonna beat this ship.

When the doctor told me, like that was it, I like that was probably the worst moment in my life.

I knew it fect you now.

I see it every day, Like some days I be happy and it just popping your mind.

It's nothing like that's ever going to go away.

And you try to go like the therapy and stuff like that, but that kind of like make it don't work, and it feels like they studying you because they never experienced nothing like that.

It's not in your it's not in your book.

But I just try to push through it.

Like my father got killed on Halloween, so I got doing it.

Now.

I don't get to grieve that day as much as I need to, or as much as I would like to.

Because I gotta get her dressed for Halloween, and she got I had fun, she got to experience something different.

She can't really see me this down either.

So yeah, so what's.

Some shit you do to to not to be there for your daughter?

Knowing that you're a hustler.

You're doing music so that that's the same thing as them there being in the streets.

You're gonna have to be moving around and not around, you know what I'm saying.

So what's some shit you do to keep her from going through the things that you felt like you was.

Going through as a little girl.

I show her that I'm there like no matter what.

Nothing trump my kid like nothing, I don't care what it is.

And then, like my mom was telling you, she opened the behavioral Health build business.

So the PRP part for the kids, I'm in charge of that.

I let my daughter see that, like hands on, I need how to see like even the kids there.

I want to be somebody that I wish I would have had, Like I tell them, I give all my kids, like you could have my phone number, call me, because I ain't have nobody that I could call, and I didn't have nobody who really understood what I was going through, or judge me, you feel me like I might want to talk about how much I missed my mother, and you're gonna take that shit, tell somebody else she don't do for her kid or some shit like that, And that ain't what I said to you.

I said, I miss my.

Mother, and I can't explain to you what my mama out there doing.

Yea.

So it's just me like I try to show my daughter like everything that I wish I had and just be a little chill and calmer with her, like than what I had.

I didn't have that feel like.

I really remember.

It was times my mother went to jail when I couldn't let my family nor my mother went to jail, So I got up every day and went to school until she came home.

And then sometimes they might find out.

And why you ain't say nothing cause y'all gonn talk about my mother and then I'm gonna want to fight ya, and I can beat all y'all up.

Every one of.

Y'as aunt cousin, they have seen it.

So it's like, don't when it comes to my mother, It's like, I don't want to beat you up, t T, but you got one more time my mother show you.

Well, that's just how it go.

You know, Hey, what's the struggles of being a female artist?

She just said, they tried to black boy your poet, but what's the struggle being a female artist?

They don't want to give you the recognition, like right now.

They had certain conversations in the city, like where it's not gatekeepers, but when you're a female, it was like, they don't give you that torch.

It's a lot of nice girls in my city.

I'm not like a hater or one of those girls like it gotta be only me.

It's very at the top for everybody and what you do.

I might not even like your music, but I'm a fuck with you any because I know how hard it is and the work that you're putting in.

I fuck with that party.

So the girls that I see, if you not conforming to the picture that they trying to paint, they don't want you a part of it.

But I'm cool with that because I don't come from no I heard this girl say, I don't come from no pussy foot mother.

My mother is like she made her own way, and I seen it.

I was there, like I was there the whole way.

From a time when my mother was hustling.

My mother had me when she was fifteen, So all of that shit that she talked about, I remember all of it.

So I ain't laying there like it's cool if you feel like you've stopping some shit for me.

What you ain't you think?

Do you think just your whole story, your whole journey, everything went to through built you to the person that you are today.

Yeah, Like I mean, I hate a lot of stuff that I've been through, but I also understand like I wouldn't be who I am without it.

Fact, like.

I wouldn't be who I am without that same city.

That's why I love the city.

Like my mother, she don't come in the city.

She'll come in the city.

But me, I love it and I really love it just because, like you from here right, you remember what it used to be before they changed it gentrification and all that shit came.

I remember what it used to be.

I remember the DJs, I remember the Kiddy discos, I remember the parties, like I remember what real West Baltimore was like.

I remember when it was niggas that stood on the corner and told you go in the house with for stuff happening and not let fifty motherfuckers get shot because you don't care, like I remember those days, So you can't take that from me what you.

Said, because I remember got we might go do some shit and tell me, hey, when you did this over here.

And y'all gotta go.

I remember those days.

Now it's no care like So the city, like I tell people a lot of times, even when I do interviews, they'd be like, do you know such and such from the city?

Do you know this person?

And I don't be wanting to hurt their feelings and be like they're not from the city, that ain't from what I come from.

Because it's a difference between Baltimore and.

Baltimore City exactly right now.

So Baltimore City is the independent city, and that's a like like that's a like how they say they break break it down in the counties.

That's a county fin itself.

Then you have Baltimore where that can go into Baltimore County and that's what we call suburbs.

Like if you're from the county, we look at you like, don't get me wrong, it's a lot of motherfuckers from the county and they blowing up and they talk all this gangster shit when I go.

Out there, If you I took you out there, you would be like, where where.

This is nice?

Why y'all doing that?

He poss like, why y'all doing this?

We got a piece of grass where I'm from, you got this?

You always fucking these people stuff.

That's like how I look at it.

So I don't never be wanting to hurt these their images that they putting out there.

But that's not the city I'm from, Like I come from the bricks.

Yeah, it's a big difference.

It's a big difference certain stuff that we do in the city.

Them homeowners out there ain't even having it at all.

So it's just like it'd be different.

It's different, what you think.

What makes you different as an artist all the way around, not even just Baltimous period, Like in this game, this rap game.

What's the most unique thing about you that.

I myself like one hundred that was in percent it away And when I rap, I speak on my own story like I Didnet got in studios with producers and they'd be like, oh, can you rap about this like and it'd be like this section, I can't.

I can't relate the selling pussy I never did that, so I don't know anybody.

I can't.

I don't have no lyrics for that.

The same way, yeah that's lie.

And also the same way I tell people like I've never wanted to be in the streets.

When you born in the streets, it's different.

I didn't.

I never wanted that.

Like, I don't know what age you had your kids, but some ship you bought them with you.

Even yeah, even when you didn't want to you.

And that's how it goes.

So it's like, I don't want to tell nobody like to sell drugs.

Like what I'm rapping about is pain.

And if I'm rapping about a nigga, I'm not telling bitches to go fucking another nigga.

When you get mad at that nigga, get your bag up, because that's what I've seen real bitches do.

That's what I seen real men respect.

I've seen real men respect or karate eyes out.

You cheated on her, and she went and got her degree, She went and bussed up on you.

She went and did this.

That's the ship I congratulate.

You're getting mad at a nigga and fucking another nigga is not a flex baby it's not a flex when you're a vision.

When you met this nigga, he was doing this before.

He might have he might have got You want a referral.

If you think you the score, I can't, Yeah, because it is talk.

You know they talk.

This homeboy might say, Yo, that thing like that, I'm gonna go try that, And.

Now you think I'm gonna go down the line, that's not a flex.

I watched any like even my mother say, like her first husband and stuff like that.

The woman that she was then can't top the woman that she is now.

So even when she says she a different wife, old man can't get the shawn told that she is today.

And that's what I look at as that's how you flex.

So this one, I'm gonna say in a song, I'm gonna talk about getting your bag up.

We're not gonna be Sheila.

And I say that in the song We're not gonna be Sheila from the Tyler Party movie.

I'm not riding up to me with you.

You see Shyla with Tyler Parry.

You won't get married, she fro.

I'm the man with a man.

I'm not riding up the Malay.

We will stay down here, we'll.

Stay right here.

Yeah, like I can, you gotta.

I just I look at certain stuff different, see what they glamorized, and what they say is cool.

But it's like, I'm not a girl's girl.

I'm sorry mine.

I'm a real bitch, real bitch, and that's it.

I hang with men.

I see what they say about women, and I see the women that they respect and the women that they treat like nothing.

I can see it on you, cleaking it out, you le.

Sav I'll be trying to not be crazy, though, bag.

Why because remember when you were snow patrol.

I be trying like that.

I be trying that.

Forget what we can do this ship all night.

But guess what, shah twenty twenty six.

I want to bring her the big fact with me, screaming Jay, when you drop you dropping in twenty six right, yeah, So when you get ready to drop your I want you to come out down and promoted.

I got you, okay, that's my word.

I think you're really dope.

I think mama's dope.

I appreciate y'all coming.

Up on you.

Got to say, man, because I like you, you're savage.

You got to ask me something.

I like to laugh like I told people that all the time, like life been too hard.

I hate serious motherfuckers, like I'm gonna laugh at the worst.

Don't look at me at the funeral.

Please don't singing at the froom.

I like, but I could have been there.

Y'all seen Instagram the lady with the dry sessue look.

On the floor.

I pumped up it again.

Give her two more minutes, give up to I hate the two minutes because I like when the drunk people get up there and they be like yeah, because I love that.

I need that.

You gotta come back.

I got you.

I appreciate that, Teddy, what you got coming up to follow you at this ship.

Y'all can follow me at my My name is the same everywhere.

Tea Savage the one.

Look for the ball here girl, I just got this heir, y'all.

I look like your boyfriend on the regular day waves, I met the barbie shop.

I get my call washed on Fridays.

That's me.

But Tea Savage the one.

And I'm just dropping more music right now.

I'm really just getting into my audience bag, just dropping that music.

Freestyles like I ain't too big, I still freestyle in the car.

I still pop my ship up the way and just just getting into this movie, which is hard because it's opening up a lot of stuff I never talked about, like just bringing a lot of stuff to the forefront.

So I hope y'all get to see.

Y'all when when the movie?

When when you think the movie will be done shot?

Okay, so there we do.

We're gonna talk about the movie and ship and I'm gonna I'm a fan too already.

When I said I know, I said.

That is my man, he savage, the one.

I can't see.

I'm gonna get my eyes none.

She got that to you.

I'm gonna get you got to shet yourself.

Oh nah, yeah you lit hold on.

Let me tell you up there, whipping ass man, you look like you're ready toad too.

I'll be trying not.

To you don't.

I still got I still got my make up all this.

She gotta call up my scars on my face ho and got stabbed in my face and all that because I really used to fight like a man.

So you're trying to be a better person.

Okay, yeah you lit?

Nah we locked in, man, You get on the fo bro.

I gotta get them in the matter of fact, fuck that she gotta come in January.

Man, let me what day in January?

She gonna say it.

Look it up, we're doing it whenever we start back shooting big fasts in January.

I want you there.

I want scream Jake, or I can get ready.

I can do my homework and talk about your ship and listen to your music.

Look at Mama ship.

I think you gotta show me, and you gotta show me Atlanta, like I feel like, don't nobody show me.

They showed me the ship out like I ain't ship here.

It ain't no, they didn't took it over.

It's over everybody, the bars and chicken wings Like dang, it's totally different.

Right in the house, I'm finna gonna play golf.

I'll be in the house.

Yeah, I'll be in the house.

This ship ain't back.

You can teach me to golf.

Then, yeah, we come to come play.

Where y'all come, come, when y'all come comes still a couple of days.

As matter of fact, we need to book it around time with our hairs on, like ship show or something, so y'all can come out creative by it with us.

I gotta show in Atlanta.

Too, like the like the like the Apollo where the ship?

Oh worry if I rap now if I sing.

I'm getting.

We had like fifteen guests.

That's why I asked how long, y'all because we got to show Tuesday.

If y'all leaving out, I will want to invite y'allut and ship.

Okay, I think you dope, said no, I think you dope.

You're good.

You need to what's your ground?

You're on the ground too.

You're on the ground too.

Should in the bottom on shoot two though?

Now I want to come to that.

I want to come to the dirt.

I don't want to go to the counter.

I want to go to the city.

I'm taking you in the city and we're gonna eat, and we're gonna eat.

You only eat once a day, so we're gonna make that one time.

You like vegan food.

You like vegan food.

Oh no, that's my ship.

No, because Steak is non negotiating.

I don't want that.

I don't want that.

What's your.

Okay?

I got it.

I'm tapped in.

I appreciate y'all, man, I appreciate.

You and y'all beautiful Mama brutal Donald, beauty.

Thank you.

You ain't gonna keep the hell.

I don't know.

Something like this is like I got tired, apart down, like I miss my ways, like but I.

Do like that.

I like it.

It's just it makes you more girly.

Girly, Hey, that's the part.

I don't like what I like dressing like a nigga because then when I dress up like a girl, like, wait till they see the dain't seen me, well, so when they see me, they be like, your boyfriend is hitting backflips in my DMS.

I'm telling you, I'm telling you chill out and tell all your niggas.

I will tell while I'm not playing, because don't do.

That to that girl.

Y'all about to put you all Christmas pajamas on.

And eat that turkey together and all that, and you over here being an acrobat, and my d M, you got a chill out.

We got to be blessed out here.

They probably just just showing love it.

Don't be loved what they're saying too much?

Ship?

You know they sent the picture and I'm looking at them like you a little pomp.

You're taking southeast and ship?

What wrong would you bore?

I don't like no.

Nigga that takes southeast.

Why woud you like, you know, up the list my other picture.

They send them tell you and I said, I don't like that.

Evil You don't You don't get your life together?

Wrong with that?

Some time y'all put it on the table.

I'm good, belove it.

This ship getting lost going, hey man, make sure y'all tap in with T.

Sava.

Make sure y'all tap in with your tail man and go to the Big Fat Network likes to Stride coming and be on the lookout for T.

Savage on Big Facts.

Next year We're going up.

Thank you.

Another epic episode of Perspectives with Big Bank.

Follow on Instagram at big Bank at O yoo