
·S3 E18
The Real Truth About Loyalty, Betrayal & Street Redemption with Woody
Episode Transcript
It gets no better than this.
You are now in June to perspectives with big bang bang.
Let get straight to.
Speaker 2It, hey man, This ain't no typical interview.
Man, it's I got wise said with an atl native in the building.
Man, they get straight to it.
Speaker 1Bro.
How you feeling, hey man?
It's self made, self made.
Yeah, man, God made me, but you know self made overcame everything I've been through, me and myself.
Speaker 3Oh God made you.
But the streets helped.
Speaker 1Fuck the streets.
Now, how you feeling, brother, I'm feeling blish man.
I appreciate you for having me on here.
No, I appreciate you pulling up?
Could you keep on?
Somebody got damn how much you are?
Exactly exactly I got to pay for parking?
Ain't wait?
In life, I'm trying to talk how you back?
But she comes right around the corner as I'm gonna go to talking shit life like you're here for bank?
I said, how you know everybody come here for you?
Ain't Yeah, most of the people we do interview.
Right here, I'm saying, like, where your mental at right now?
Speaker 3In your spirit?
Engage the engage the spirit.
Speaker 1My mental right now is just like you know, one step at a time, my spirit with God, you know, trusting the process, letting God lead away and just trusting the follow so you know, it's a blessing.
Man.
I woke up this morning.
Somebody didn't wake up to day.
So I'm taking the full advantage of that opportunity to have another chance at life.
Speaker 2First question don't want to ask is like how you how you keep from glitching out?
Speaker 1Reminding myself like when I did gleech ok where I ended up at and looking over my shoulder.
You feel what I'm saying, raring about police locking me up.
As you see, I get pulled over every day.
They feel good, you know, knowing they ain't gonna walk away without me.
Oh you got your license?
It straight everything?
Yeah, the first time having a license, first time, Like I got over like ten million in my bank account.
That's how crazy it is.
Speaker 3What's What's what you think?
Speaker 2Thenumber one thing is that people see, like the people that love you to see when they see you.
Speaker 1Now say that one more time.
Speaker 2Like what you thinking the number one thing or what people tell you that's around you, like you know, like like your grandma and your aunties and your friend.
Speaker 3That really really loved you.
What it is that they most proud of you, most proud.
Speaker 1Of you, my growth, the way I'm handling any things, and how I'm going about it, and you know, the love is I an'tbelievable.
It's crazy.
Like it's crazy, bro, I ain't gonna lie.
At this point, I thought I have to do something to somebody, and then everybody, like I told, y'all, you fee what I'm saying.
But it's it's so much love that you know, the enemy can't even get close to me.
Speaker 2Real shit, What makes you feel what made you feel like you have to do something?
Somebody just thinking like what?
Speaker 1Because I was a young nigga one day, I mean one at one point and I saw somebody that had a certain status and I wanted to be my name up.
So I was thinking about doing something to that person to get my name up there.
So instally, I think, back in my shoes, you feel what I'm saying, So like, shit, I know somebody think they're gonna get his name out of me.
It ain't gonna be that sweet.
Yeah, No, I did what you're saying.
Speaker 2You're saying you by being on the internet or being just period, it just you felt like damn, I could be the target that I once thought was like I once looked at a nigga like me as a target.
Speaker 1Basically.
Yeah.
So it's like street niggas mindset right, they're jealous and emis my nigga.
So it's like when but people say like this in L.
E.
Chopper in Young Boy, everybody said, jump, ain't mess with nobody.
The boy, the boy doing his thing, standing his right name, and this nigga, Yeah, I love it, I love it.
I can feel him every time he dropping song.
But in L.
E.
Chopper, instead of him doing his own thing, he said, you know what, I'm ana tax this man.
I'm gonna mess with him.
That's how niggas, that's how poor niggas in the street think, instead of leting me to continue to move my life because I ain't messed with nobody.
I ain't out here trying to portray a street image or nothing like THATM just and it's like knowing that it's always some man cut emis and jealous of me.
Speaker 2So how you get away from you know, like because because me I'm doing the same shit, just transition trying to be a different person too where I am different.
But the thing about it is you can't change the mind of motherfuckers who already knows you for who they know you are.
So how do you how do you keep from fucking one of them up?
Speaker 1Avoid being around them?
So I couldntrol who around me in the environment I'm around, So like right here, I'm here with you.
Every person that week me work a job, you see what I'm saying, an honest job, and they having an honest living.
This as long as I ever been free, I put myself around those type of people and they keep me away from them.
Street mentality.
Yeah, but it's in you though, right So that's what tells me right there?
And dere what you ain't pretending this nigga pretending co when you put their belt to theaggether what we're gonna do?
Police give them.
I don't care if I would have did something here, You're gonna call the police on me?
Nigga?
Try to justify shit?
Why?
And overall?
You know what I mean?
You ain't really like that, And I ain't trying to talk down on nobody cause I'm not like that.
I've been pretending and living a fake life, trying to be crazy and trying to be whatever people want me to be, And I just realized, man, this she ain't bring me happiness.
Speaker 2Where they feel like to be just labeled as a snitch, like how that feel?
Inside the truth?
You never spoke on that, like how that feel?
Speaker 1This only if a person feel like I'm a snitch and they want to lay me a snitch.
I look at them, and I look at you know who they are?
Who is you to try to label me?
What you got going on?
To try to you feel what I'm saying, nigga, your life, what it need to be for you to be focusing on me?
Stay in the child play?
Little boy?
Speaker 2Hey, let me ask you so because I was just thinking the morning when I knew you was coming.
I was just trying to think of some questions.
I wrote some shit down, but I ain't fucked that.
I was just gonna ask you some regular shit.
Let me ask you, you know, d day, young niggas, Like I said, all y'all, young niggs feel like y'all can for nehing folk like talk your way out of some shit.
Do you feel like niggas just don't want to see that you really did from this?
Speaker 1So let's let's break it down.
You know what I ain't gonna kick him because I love him too much.
You fee what I'm saying.
I will use rib scenarios to point out my my make my point, but I just say this, my nigga, I got sons.
I talked about this shit way back in twenty nineteen before anybody ever got locked up.
Nobody knew what I knew.
You feel me?
Somebody, what about this whole situation.
I talked about the trial before he even happened, before anybody got locked up.
One thing about when you out here doing stuff you know twelve, it'll come get you.
Dean.
Niggas in the street ain't thinking like I am.
De niggas ain't cut from the cloth.
I came from everybody thinking that you go do stuff to get caught.
You feel me?
So you gotta go back to the beginning of the problem.
Where did it start?
It started when niggas start rapping You feel me?
They said.
You started start saying on the interview, you started all this shit, and he said, I do medicine too, And I heard you out your mouth said he ain't as crazy as he said.
Clearly, what you're gonna go out for?
What you're gonna go out for?
If you look at thug and you look at me like real top Thug was successful as he was because his talented.
But now that he been disposed, his truth held been disposed.
Look at my boy, that ship hurt me.
Looking at him?
What you mean his smile ain't the same, his attitude ain't the same.
Every time you see him on footage, he looked, he looked like in a dark place.
Look at it.
Go look at them videos of him.
You see what I'm saying.
Now, Look you mean, my nigga, do it look like I'm pretending.
Do it look like I'm living in the dark place?
Or he looks like I'm living in the light?
Whoa you want a Swiss seat?
Speaker 3Want?
Speaker 1In my respect, you is way up here in my ear because I sat there and I watch him.
You know what I'm saying watching You know a lot of people don't understand that about me.
Like I've been in survival mode since my mama died.
Yeah, so I'm gonna do what I gotta do survive.
I didn't commit crimes, and I'm not telling people to go commit crimes.
I didn't commit grinds because I wanted to.
I committed crime because I didn't know better, and I try to, you know, make people accept me.
So I thought this is the way that I can make people asselt me.
But when I started doing times and people start turning their back on me and started leaving me in there and started, you know, while I'm sitting in jail, people showing up my family houses.
I'm in jail.
These niggas who won't call it my friends, ain't protecting my family.
So when niggas talk about snitching and they talk about all that, niggas, fuck y your niggas.
I'm a mechanic vir nigga, pull up and get your issue.
That's how serious I am about you.
Say you changed.
Let me let me tell you something, my nigga.
Now keep on, yeah, card, listen, let me tell you something.
People got to understand the seriousness and how far unwilling they go about my people.
This is a situation.
I got nothing to do it, but I'm taking I'm carrying to blame.
When it first happened, you heard about it.
Whose name was being called?
Yeah?
Who had to go through all these violence and war every time niggas shot at me and I shot back, Polly locked me up, and them niggas continue to shoot up my family house.
When you when you having warre nigga, let me tell you something.
When they shot me while I had my baby, my baby and my girl with me at the time, gloves off, nigga.
Anybody can die, nigga, because at the end of the day, while I'm trying to defend minds about something, I got nothing to do with the police locking me up, my nigga.
Speaker 2So you feel like basically what I just gather from there, you feel like you went out the front line on some shit that you ain't had to be front line for and niggas left you for dead.
Speaker 1That's how you feel.
Let me tell you, I ain't never need a nigga defend me.
But right is right, my nigga.
If y'all nigga know what the truth about, what about the situation, I ain't even gotta tell y'all niggas what to do.
Y'all should already been on it.
But due to the fact puts that nigga gonna give a fuck, my nigga, because I see it and I be quiet.
I hold it seeing and shit hurt.
Get it up, nigga, I see it and be quiet and let the world criticize me and say what they want to say about me.
But the whole time, I don't defending the niggas I call friend while these niggas hide and broke up on the rocks.
Now, nigga, y'all bad enough to do this shit.
Niggas stand on it, but instead who got to stand on it?
Me?
When heid was show up my family house, graduate by who chill out there?
Lo?
They got a fucking dog change on my knicks?
So I can't go back out there.
But guess where I broke their motherfucker off.
And I went back out there, and I stood up for me and my family and made them nigga stop.
I wouldn't let no nigga polyp pressing me my nigga.
I didn't want to.
I didn't want to go back and forth with these niggas because I'm like, bro, I got respect for this man.
But when I see the nigga ain't gonna stop.
Fuck that shit.
You feel what I'm saying, anybody can get it, and I'm standing on it.
Speaker 2So where it's at right now, though, well with it.
I'm saying, just the energy of all that shit, it's behind me.
This is my last time getting it off my chair.
And the best place to get off my chair is right here with you.
Speaker 1I appreciate it.
I appreciate you.
I see how you get each and everybody on here, and people gotta understand, and people, you know, everybody want to know what's going on.
You know what I'm saying.
And you know I see here and watch people sit right here knowing how I feel about this situation, and get on here and lie.
Don't lie, my nigga, because you don't want me to put the truth out there.
Speaker 2I'm gonna say.
I'm gonna say that before we even get too deep in.
I don't take you as a liar.
That's me walt sing that like even watching you like you know how, nigga, you could tell if they blinking or just just buy it.
Speaker 1I have seen all types of niggas.
I'm just being real, nigga.
We seen him here.
He'll took a pert I always acted like that.
Speaker 3No, he always moving like that.
No, keep it real now, he always like that.
Speaker 1Come on, what do you lie about the medicine?
First of all, I never took medicine.
But you just said you slip retarded before we started, so you might need to tell something.
Just because I'm retarded, don't mean I gotta take medicine.
Yeah, because I'm retarded to though exactly do you take message?
Nah?
Exactly, I'm high of life, real talk.
Ask the nigga.
Bro.
When I just be mad, I wake up up my sleep and go outside play on playground.
You feel what I'm saying.
It's just when I love for people to be so real bro in his next level.
But when when people trying to be show their same little back, then my nigga, they ain't doing it.
And then once you try to close them those and let they pass me the pass and you got niggas come on this thing.
You know, everybody said, I can't take what is serious?
He takes medicine?
No, take me serious.
I'm human.
I have them the same finish y'all health.
But it ain't that wrong with nigga taking medicine.
Though, yes it is what that's why they take medicine something.
Speaker 2But what I'm saying, you taking medicine to be okay.
Speaker 1They mean you fucked up if you gotta take message.
But when you're taking the medicine, you're okay like Guca okay now, because if you don't take their Mesaine what he's gonna go do.
Speaker 3Yeah, but a lot of us is undiagnosed.
Speaker 2Though a lot of us got some ship that we probably I probably if we if any of us in that room went down there and sat with them folks and told them folk, what the fuck we'll be thinking about, We'll all be taking.
Speaker 1Medicine where you gotta be crazy living in today's society.
That's what I'm trying to tell you.
So it really ain't fucked out to be taking the nigga needs to be taking some This is my medicine right here.
Speaker 2Me too, I ain't even lying, bro, me sitting out having a conversation with niggas and just smoking a little blunt or too.
Speaker 1I ain't eve gotta smoke a blunt.
That shit helped me, I jg.
Like I ain't never did George, I ain't pop pills, ain't none asking them niggas natural, you know.
I mean, like I said, Bro, from with you every step of the way.
See people not understanding where niggas went, won't gonna get what causes all of this.
You feel what I'm saying.
And like I said, I loved even to this to this day.
I never hurt him.
I want to see him hurt.
You know what I mean.
I just don't want.
I just don't like when niggas get on you and lie and pretend.
You know what I'm saying, Let this shit be, bro, Let's just close their chap already.
He just said all thing he said, we got damn what is started everything?
And I did it?
Speaker 3You you putting gas on the fire?
Speaker 1Now you put gas on the fire.
Once they put their hands on me, my nigga, I'll bet so.
Yeah, I had a bit night.
Somebody gotta pay.
But they didn't leave into the situation that people trying to say, why if bank hit me, I'm not going after her.
I'm coming at the bank.
You feel me.
So at the end of the day, my nigga, you know the truth.
You should never answer that question.
You should have I don't recall.
You should have said woof they do.
Don't sit there and say wood because you got to understand people believe.
Yeah, people don't believe in it.
Speaker 3You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1It was easy to believe though.
Speaker 2Hold on, let me let me just ask you this just in hindsight, just looking back, how wild y'all niggas was online and clubs and ship Would you believe that about you?
That what it probably did start because how they said something about nuts, shit got stolen and some kind of way you gave it back or whatever.
Speaker 1So man, you come from the street, watch steal something to give back.
Just don't make sense.
Don't write my nigga.
Never come on man, you know that.
Yeah, you got a whole lot of sense.
Yeah, can't about to come up here and play on you, my nigga.
Speaker 3You said, so what happened with that situation with the nut chain?
Speaker 1Somebody, somebody did have his change.
They broke in his car.
You feel me?
And when I said, I'm like what, so I hit baby Jade like, hey man, hitting it up.
Tell him I got his stuff.
She knew it, so she hit him up, told him he put up in the neighborhood.
Me and him, chopped couple people with him.
Gave me a champ, We talked.
You know what I'm saying.
It wouldn't no gangster shit involved it all.
You know what I'm saying.
Anytime I feel like I had a status in the street, if I feel like here threat to minutes, I ain't even let you leave my neighborhood period, but there wasn't never the case.
The respect was mutual.
So you know, I gave him that back, and you know he was like, damn, who you got it from?
You know, come on, we ain't doing all that bit.
So he like, shit, you know what, I respect them, my nigga.
And that was it that she was dead.
Speaker 2But Bud was saying, like his niggas didn't want to let that go after that though, So I ain't do.
Speaker 1Nothing to me right there in and there he can had his niggas with him.
Speaker 2But you know how shit go after when fucked that fucking up to my man?
Shit, this nigga gonna tried you.
Speaker 1You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2I'm just keeping it real like you, Just like you just said earlier, niggas in the street just envious.
Speaker 1So you never know, when did you hear about this story of me having enough juror on the podcast?
Exactly my niggas, So if there was the word in the street, why is he just not coming out?
Nobody didn't know nothing about this jurors, nobody didn't know nothing about what happened to the trial.
You just said to yourself, you never heard nothing about that till in the trial, right, So why did niggas swing on you that cruise?
So some shit happened at the gambling house, okay, and somebody told me, hey, man, you know, play the card right here.
I said, damn you smart, I play their card.
But as I'm playing the card that you tell me to play, the hand that you tell me to play, you were a nigg on me.
So I ran it too.
Somebody, a certain person that been stay up the up beach pretend to be gagsting and they laying up in the hopital of the bed.
I ran it to him, and I took your advice because you told me play the hand, chop it up with a nigga whatever whatever.
And then motherfucker say, man, fuck that.
You don't know who got who down bad.
You just put me in across fire.
Tell a nigga.
I tell nigga straight up.
Ay, Look, whatever problem, it ain't got nothing to do with me between y'all.
So this but me and you hanking.
So when the niggas sit me there a hundred deep, and I ain't feel letting nobody to fuck with you when you with me, nigga, what's up with sy'ally.
Shit, what's him?
Oh they want to get violent.
Oh, y'all ain't gonna doing nothing.
Nah nah, y'all did shit when I ain't here.
But while don't hear I'm defending.
I'm riding that what happened.
Speaker 2So why you ain't go through it that we're gonna keep jumping back and forth because this is comeu hered.
Speaker 3I ain't got a rope down.
Look why you why ain't like them?
Speaker 2Four gave you immunity, right, yeah, so that means you can't be charged for none like they say you.
Speaker 1Can't be charged for the communities.
That's different.
What's that?
That means that we're giving you immunity.
We don't care that you don't want it.
I didn't want ammunity.
I didn't want my family to hear the ship that I allegedly did in the streets.
Okay, I didn't, So I threatened the prosecutors, not in a bad way any defense.
Hey, y'all leave me out this trial, because what they're gonna do is get up here and say, oh what this this, this, this, this, this is my nephew Nils is trying to be in the street.
I don't want them to hear about this ship, I ain't.
I ain't a fan of this violence.
And when they start saying, oh, he did all this stuff right here the internet, they like stupid ship, my nigga.
I don't want to be praised for being stupid by hurting people.
Speaker 3You feel me, when's your shift come?
Like, when's your mind shift?
Speaker 1My mind shift?
When I was in state prison right before they I was just released before the trial.
I had thirty days to go home.
Some game members came to me like, hey, bro, be careful the other games they trying to get you.
Hi, got a knife.
They gave me a knife.
You know me hard head, Like, I get defend my show.
I got thirty days to go home.
They go get the other dude.
Somebody say, hey, y'all get this nigga.
And the old head comes to me and say, hey, they playing you bro.
They trying to crash you out, and they trying to crash him out.
So the nigga they tried to get stabbed me.
He had snitch on his jacket, but they gonna they gonna manipulate him to stab me so they could protect him.
He got ten years during prison.
So when the old head explaining to me, I'm like cool.
Instead of me going to the whole, I just falling back.
I'm hard head with a point of people.
I go on to yard.
What's up?
I got my knife on me.
They gave me a short knife.
You gave him a loan one.
And when I see a nigga and buy down, no nigga do it.
Me and your nigga had we went edit, but he had help.
He had another nigga, So I had another nigga come.
He whip out.
I ain't sure mine.
I wanted to add.
I ain't had nobody had to cuff in my hand.
And when he pulled out, what's up?
What's up?
So I like I'm scoring up with him?
And when he went back, I went straight into his face and he stood back and came down, stepped me in the arm right here, and then went through.
When he stabbed me, that's when the reality hit me.
You stupid ass nigga, you got a lot to lose.
I crabbed my arm, wrapped myself up, ramped back inside the park because I really say, he wasn't trying to do nothing.
So when I when I missed him, he stayed at my ramp back inside the police seemed like, please, don't say nothing, because I'm gonna lose my parole date.
Now I got to standing here with these niggas that ain't gottenhing to lose.
She looked at me, She's like, oh, I went there, wrapped myself up, past my ship, and she still didn't go to the whole.
Old head bad me Like please, man, he from Augusty like, please go to the hole.
Man like, bro, you somebody brother youse.
Niggas ain't nobody go.
So I'm like, man, if I go to the hold, nigna think I'm scared that nigga, even being scared about being smart.
You something.
I don't make a name off of you, damn.
So after I was up conversation, ain't gonna lie.
It took a long time, and I'm like, okay, cool.
I went ahead, packed my stuff up, went to the whole.
But why you go to the whole for?
Because I'm going home.
I started dying of killing.
Yeah, yep.
So I went to the whole.
And then that's when I was laying in my bed, I started talking to God.
And you know, at first you're like, man, you know you ain't doing that.
You just boyed.
So the more I started just talking to God.
I start to feel better, getting clarity too.
Yeah, I'm about my body.
And then this ain't no.
Five days went by.
I got three weeks to go home, and that's I just found myself talking to God more and more.
You feel I'm saying.
Then the rico came.
I'm like, oh wow, you feel what I'm saying.
And that's when I got on my knees and pray.
Because one thing about me, I got a lot of stuff documented.
I got a documented talking about this tribe before it even happened.
You see what I was going to man, Bra It's crazy, Bro, My life is so crazy.
Nigga won't even believe it.
Nigga, I fought to be in that position that I was in.
What you mean?
You know what I mean?
I can't put that on him.
Speaker 2There you create in the position that, yeah, I asked you because you love it, but hey, because I still got a train of thought of so oh, G was telling you that dude gotta do ten years.
So they telling him they gonna say he's straight if he handling you like, we're gonna take care of you.
Speaker 1Bro.
You're good.
Speaker 3You got there, just handler wood.
And then all that shit over.
Speaker 1But they line in him too though, Oh fuck him too.
Yeah, yeah, they're gonna crash both of us out on each other.
So if I stab him, I'm going to hire a prison where they can get me at because I'm at a bullshit camp.
Oh you weren't in right street, you was.
I was in state prison.
Oh okay, okay, okay.
So when I get there, off the rip, what's the best place to start game banking that what's the best place started gaming?
In prison?
So when I walked through the door, nigga say you you blood?
I said, no, it ain't nothing.
You feel me.
I could even say yeah, because this is a account where they pretended I see these niggas.
So I ain't for the hot by now behind nothing.
Now I ain't blood because you know, when I became a camemember, I thought you had some type of scrutch.
I thought it had unity.
When cern stuff started happening, people stud I stuck.
Like when twenty fifteen blood stuft switching up.
You know what I'm saying.
When I started niggas switching up, I'm like, oh, I'm in the wrong field.
This just mean switching up like so like let's say I was a part of this set.
Niggas in this set, like, damn, we can't rock with you because you did that to you know what I mean?
But this ain't this ain't your whip, I said, But y'all ain't walk with me cause y'all pussy straight up real shit.
I don't need y'all to rock with me though I ain't.
Could you said, you see me in the clothes beat booting them?
So but when I was throwing up signs, what was I throwing up?
I stand on what I stand on.
I stood up with what I thought I was a part of.
Speaker 3Okay, and and boole something different, right, oh okay.
Speaker 1So niggas like man, oh damn bro Now, y'all nigga scared y'all, y'all, I mean, y'all, y'all see what going on.
Y'all don't want no parts of it.
But I ain't got nothing to do with it.
I ain't finna tell it.
Nobody think what y'all want to think.
Feel y'all want to feel.
Speaker 2So what's the consequences of saying like ain't nothing when you when you was in the game.
Speaker 1There wasn't no consequences.
The best place I could have got out of it was in prison while the woods at right.
So I dropped my flag when I was down.
Now niggas like, uh shit, he ain't blood.
Oh boy, you they saying you did this to a blood So bro, we gotta eat you.
But we ain't gonna eat you, brother, cause you know, I mean a lot of East Coat hummers they like him.
Man, hey man, y'all hair shot it back.
They like, but you ain't blood, and they say you did this, So get on the door.
I'm like, get on the door.
Sit.
I'm trying.
I'm trying to buy time to get a knife because you know, I mean, if I get on the door this, she's gonna find me here where I go.
So when I see nigga now they clean he why he'll give me a knife?
He ain't give me a knife.
Fuck you.
So at the end of the day, I let what I do.
I stayed in there and let them beat me up.
They ain't really know me, nick can'not know where punch me inside.
You know, I bothered.
I'm know I to take a hair whip, but I take an airwhep before I let you just treat me like a bitch.
So I took an air whip and then they caught me out from a miracle.
I went up there, hid in my eye, came right back.
You know.
When I came back and like, damn you got respect, shot shouted normally nigga, go tell.
And I came in and went to sleep with them niggas.
And then there was people on the outside like, man, look get off from in there going around somebody that you know you they can have your back.
And then you know, I changed units, you know what I mean due to the fact because a lot of people here saying, but that's that's a bigger fish say that.
No, you got family, bro, they're staying Atlanta.
Bro.
I already got your name in called out there and got your background.
Speaker 2Let me ask you something.
You said something at my train.
Thought you was saying, who kept decided on the y sair case?
A lot of people did who.
Yeah, you got both of the quads?
Yeah shanty Yet.
Speaker 1I said, yeah, correct, No.
Then they made thug rack casey hat a lot of his interview.
Yet said I did it right, but I was in charge.
Yet with charge, so what they tell you it's too much for nessing going on.
Speaker 3I'm giving you the fact.
Speaker 1I'll give you the fact if you had went in that interrogation, talked to the police and proven facts that he lied and you caught him a wreck.
But you said people he's selling, you know, Wayne take away in them drugs and people commit crimes every day if ya conrect from lining the interrogation, what they make you?
Speaker 2Oh so you're saying basically, you ain't take it like he told them you because you know you ain't did now right?
Speaker 1But niche is the one you're telling the truth on this.
Somebody my nigga, right, you told you about anything?
Sure?
We y'all free?
Hell yeah, I told truth about everything I told you.
Yeah we free?
My name right to say, nigga.
A lot of the mom a lot of their kids can't understand telling you the truth said you're free on.
Speaker 3So, so how do you feel?
Speaker 2How you felt like really going in there every day, like getting ready to go.
Speaker 1In the mofu?
Man?
I was the zigmy man.
It seemed like the women were just pushing me and I was telling them like I can't eat, I can't feel nothing, Like they didn't care why you thought you was in that state of mind?
No, because it's like bro, I don't care about this defense.
I don't care about the State.
I just care about you know.
I mean, I've been through enough, my nigga, and these people intentionally do it like the state they linked out these interrogation for you because I was uncooperated the whole time.
Why ever, I think I'm cooperating, I'm not.
That's why I keep going to prison and keep going to jail.
Speaker 2Oh you talking about even even even with the interrogation videos and all that shit, you're saying, you still didn't really get them for shit.
Speaker 3That's why you were going to jail basically.
Speaker 1So well, a lot of people missed because they ain't got nobody breaking down to them each entire each time they interrogated me, I told them a different story every time they questioned me.
So I didn't even understand why the police are you were trying to use that.
It ain't like I told you the same story every time you questioned me.
You see, I told him bank shot him, you know what I mean, banking?
He cool?
Did it turn around?
Said huh cool?
Did it turn around?
Said emmy?
So it's like y'all ain't convinced by this story.
Y'all ain't convinced by the funk.
How could I convince y'all?
Right, Yeah, that fucked up, you know what?
Speaker 2I so you said basically, all right, let's break it down.
What Let's break down telling snitching ran informed.
Let's break down all of them.
Let's start with schnitching.
Speaker 1Snitching is the whole old rally.
You snitch, just let's just put it out there.
Your snitch when you go in to terrogation room on the top, that's the best way to kill it.
That's when you're a snitch.
Yeah.
The moment you walk in the terrogation room and signed lawyer.
Yeah, the moment you talk without your lawyer, your snitch.
I don't give a fuck what you tell him.
That's the only way you stop it.
That's the only way you stop it.
Yeah, that's only way where it ain't questionable.
Yeah, I agree with that.
Everything you turn around, somebody gonna get e SPoD for snitching.
Speaker 2But but, but, but a young nigga told me this the other day.
Right, I was like, man, because the niggas listen to the Thud interview.
When I said, why y'all your nigga feel like y'all can finish the police.
Speaker 1Do you feel like today?
Do you feel like I snitched?
Just be honest with you, just be real honest.
Do you feel like I snitched?
Now?
You see how everything played out, you see everything in life.
Speaker 3I feel like you finished.
But that is telling.
Speaker 2You went in that terroorgation room and talk to them folks to say anything besides well, my lawdy y you're telling so okay, that is how I feel about it.
Speaker 1But overall, forget how you feel about it.
Let's speak on the fat.
Speaker 2But overall, I feel like you did what was writing.
And then that's just how I feel.
And I told everybody that I feel like whatever I feel like you say them boy, life, I do feel like that.
So I can't say when you when it was your time to really tell, you didn't tell.
But in them terrogation room, you were talking too much.
Speaker 1So say, let me ask you this question.
Was you in any of them because they were used to mean any of them crimes?
No, sir, So how you know if I were telling?
Speaker 3No, I'm just saying what I saw.
Speaker 1I'm not.
Speaker 2I'm just keepping the real like what I saw a Nigga interrogation room talking them folks to me, I cut it off, brother, because I don't give fuck what you're about to say.
You're talking too much.
That's just how I look at it with it, and I could be that that wrong.
But like I said, I'm going to make the point of your niggas that told me like, oh, so you gotta think when y'all niggas all that cold shit, them nigga won't try and for that, them nigga gonna do fitting in a hundred year, these niggas actually getting out line.
Speaker 1It's a difference.
Speaker 3I don't get.
Speaker 1I don't understand niggas telling back then.
For sure they was.
See the difference between now and back then was exactly you ain't had the internet back then.
That's why a lot of these niggas trying to step up under the end the radar because they get exposed.
Yeah, yeah, I agree with.
I know a lot of niggas not mean they don't sat down and talk because niggas don't say that you feel what I'm saying.
So my whole thing is now that you got a in and guess what niggas saying.
Shit, I'm stay out to wake cause I ain't trying to be expoised.
Bro.
Let me tell you something, bro, We're human.
Were human.
Ain't nobody elver walked this earth did what I did, and ain't nobody never going to do it.
I didn't owe nobody nothing, ain't nobody put no gun to my head and nothing.
Let me tell you something, my nigga went when I was out here thugging, then ride with you and having your back.
I wasn't out here telling people or bragging about it.
I didn't put that in songs.
I didn't do any of that.
And let me tell you this, bro, whatever I went through and whatever I did, I didn't do it to get caught or to go to spend the rest of my life in jail.
That's where people fail to realize.
Y'all keep my saving them niggas.
Let's start with myself.
Yeah, I ain't spending the rest of my life in jail.
That's why I take advantage of every opportunity and every day moving forward.
I commend you for that though.
Everything you're doing.
Speaker 2Want the ship with the kids, like I could tell that shit jingle, like I said, brouh.
Somebody sent me a picture you and said you got shot, bro.
I instantly prayed for you, doc, because they ain't no, that's on gud but you end.
Speaker 3Up following off a bite.
I was like, I pray for you in the city.
Speaker 2College like if they done shot, they boy, they finis the city finna be fucked up.
Speaker 3Niggas asked me to go to jail whatever, cause it.
Speaker 1Was they we ain't gonna jail because if I live.
Speaker 2And I'm just saying, but you you was out.
You see that video, Yeah, I seen it looked like boy it was over with.
So I just like, man, please go don't let nobody be gonna kill the boy.
Shot this boy whatever it is.
Man, let him get up off of their ground.
Two three two three thirty minute later, it was like, nah, he fell off a bike.
You know what I'm saying.
So I was like, damn, that's god.
You get what I'm saying because I don't want to see now.
Want nobody get shot because this shit gonna turn the city upside down.
That's just what it is, right, That's just what it is.
Nigga ain't gona somebody going to jail.
He gonna all crank back up.
I feel like me personally, and I want to interview Finnish.
That's who I want to interview.
That's like, that's my dream.
Interview is fanning with us.
I just want to interview her, but I feel like the state, I ain't gonna say hurt, but the state want to see something because niggas is out.
You get what I'm saying, Like, everybody put all these nigga back out there, Let's see what happened.
Speaker 3That's just how I feel.
Speaker 1I'm I'm gonna say this.
I'll watch Finnish.
You feel what I'm saying.
This is a swarm black woman for sure, and a lot of people want to take away from her because it's not I mean, how she hunted the situation.
Job.
She did a job, and if we ain't get her job to do, she might have to rear.
Speaker 2Fact, so nigga won't be mad if it was a white man or white lady.
Nig wadn't even be mad like they wuldn't even be mad at the like bruh.
Speaker 1Her job is to lock your ass up.
Your job is not to get caught.
That's just what it is, Like who the fuck?
Like what the fuck?
But see a lot of people don't know that.
So a lot of people feel like okay, because they go break the law, they ain't got rid bou like, no, you gotta go to jail.
You gotta pay for that.
So that's that's my view of life.
Now, that's why I make my nixt decision based off like, Okay, cool, if I'm broke, I'm not gonna go row out nobody to take what nobody I go work for.
I'm gonna go cutin grads and you know, chop the tree, dow.
I'll wake up some leaves.
I ain't got read about the law.
So that's why I try to, you know, talk to these kids.
When the police they still terrorize me.
They see me out there with the kids, they go check, jumping out on the kids, searching them, try to find something on them to say that I'm influence, that I'm giving them that.
No I'm not.
I'm on it.
I'm putting built to they ad.
Yeah, I'm punishing kids people, kids that ain't mind's either, and their family, like their parents are telling me, do it.
How you think you?
How you think you?
How you think you?
Speaker 2Continue to have the respect from the kids to even listen to you with all the ship going on.
Speaker 1The internet, cause they relate nobody, not one person say I'm a snitch to my face.
I just left made high school last for Friday, and I had the trouble youth in them.
And there was a couple of outsos that used to work in right Street don't work there no more.
They who invited me.
They be like, man, let me, I'm gonna invite somebody I used to deal with in the jail.
And I got a friend of the kids and I found one.
They had their mindset like me, and I locked in on him and I talked to him, and he thought he had to so figured out.
And what I did, I telled him to his emotion and I let go outside.
They hit because I told him I beat him up.
Yeah, I said, I win because I got you mad, and you're gonna make the wrong choice.
I said.
Your first mistake is you walked past me and let me stand behind you.
You ain't got enough uh what you call it?
You ain't better test, my nigga, because the moment you let me get behind you, you lost ain't no rules in the streets.
The moment you believe the rules in the street, you lose facts.
Every time I turn around.
Somebody being disposed for going into the interrogation room and talking to the law.
That's a part of the street.
Like my nigga, they part of the game.
I'm not promoting, I'm not condoning.
I tell everybody, don't put yourself in a situation where they could tell on you, or you have to tell on somebody.
And the best way you do that is by limit who you associate yourself with.
Speaker 3Oh look, let me break that down.
Speaker 1You said some niggas ain't going in, Yes they are.
Let me tell you some of my nigga.
I'm gonna tell you how you know.
I went to jail because the police said in the video, it looks like it's a gun on my help.
Everybody's sitting and they product on the internet.
I went everybody they po they product on the internet.
I went to the because our son said, if somebody tried them, I'm gonna pull up the pop of their neck.
So if the fas comes, got me for that lyric.
You think they're not watching all these niggas on the internet selling all these stuff and fleshing all this stuff.
You think they're not catching these niggas pulling them over.
Why ain't about liquing let them go?
Why you think the niggas surviving on the street.
So long, bro.
So if nigga want to say I'm working for the law, why the hell they keep putting me in jail.
I can't get the information if I'm in jail.
It's the niggas that ain't going to jail.
It's giving them the information, keeping them updated on what's going on in the street.
Speaker 2But would you look at it if it was another nigga, If a nigga interrogation, when what you look at it like he did some bullshit?
Speaker 1They just yes or no.
To be honest with you, it ain't my situation for me to be putting my time into it.
Nah.
I agree with that.
So that's where I go at because I'm never gonna associate with you or.
Speaker 2What I'm talking about it because I'm talking to you saying if I'm talking to a nigga, that's what I'm talking about.
Other than that, that ain't my business, right because like I always say, but you call a nigg out of their name, but you gotta be ready to kill him no matter if you're true or not.
Speaker 1That's the truth.
The truth here bank everybody associated with the snitch if they didn't snitch for the friends, for sure.
So when I be looking at the nigga like, oh, I can name you name a rapper.
I named somebody who's staying with them every day.
They told, let's let's be real.
So they're trying to make it seem like okay, because you told or you made it, you did what you did.
Now I'm just gonna sat you say, if you name a you could name.
You got somebody hanging around every day post picture was mine.
So they wanted to select and choose, but they stay well controlling.
Speaker 3Why you think they selecting che cause.
Speaker 1These nigga really bitches, you know what I mean.
I hope I hope they feel offended when they hear that and I say it because it's like y'all got all this influence, use it for a better purpose.
Speaker 3I just told a couple of nigga that on the phone.
Speaker 1Yeah, man, like my on my on my lifelight, Bro.
Speaker 3Niggas got a goddamn feet.
Speaker 2Niggatta really because the streets is over the part of the street said we know that.
Speaker 3I know, and I come from the streets from that.
Speaker 1It's nice being over it.
Not really.
Speaker 2Yes, they have a bank, not really, because nig was still money to get it ain't even no money to get.
Speaker 1Now, you don't want the money they want Clout.
Everybody doing shit for clout.
You see, you see how long we fora did the interview months.
You ain't want to pay, and I ain't want to see it for free, you know what I'm saying.
So it's like it's like I ain't never play aga for interview though, And guess where my nigga keep going.
Yeah, ain't hang on you.
But see what happened is but we can get some money together for sure.
But see I had to learn the bigger message.
You know what I'm saying, Like, I'm respecting you because you get what I'm saying.
This nigga make money off our story.
But I'm watching how everybody come up here, you know, trying to put their story out there.
You know whatever I say, you know what I'm gonna do.
I'm gonna go Auhead and talk with Bank because get what, I got real respect for Bank.
I just watched your interview.
Now I got respect for you too, Bro.
Speaker 3Like I said, Bro, in the beginning, looking at that ship, that Terrorgation.
Speaker 2Ship, I did not respect them.
But on the man that I see today, Bro, I see you fucking them kids.
Well, a policitive.
I see you helping the kids.
I see you got damn a family.
Speaker 1Man.
Speaker 3I see and I see no lives in you.
I'm just being real.
I see no.
Speaker 1Lives when I see you, bro.
Speaker 2So for me to sit across from you, and I told you that on the phone because you're like, man y'all, don't fuck with me.
Speaker 1Man y'all, I like what.
Speaker 2You can't name a time that I said it out my mouth that you nothing, Not one time that I say it out my mouth anything neggative towards anybody.
Speaker 1Now, it don't be that.
It be more us a city shit.
So it's like that, bro, I'm not a nigga dish just around to be around.
Yeah, I'm playing my part, you feel me.
And while I'm playing my part, you know I got your back.
I want that life, my nigga, because I'm thinking you're my friend, thinking that I mean this, you know, I show you my love for you.
Niggas said I put niggas in jail.
No, you should never did what you did.
If niggas ain't go out there and commit them crimes and you know, break the laws, nigga have to deal with that.
Speaker 2So what were they trying to say that you?
What were they trying to use from them interrogation room?
Like because they were trying to say you were the star witness.
What were they trying to use that you said to convict the case?
Speaker 1I told them so much.
I don't even know ship.
I probably asked me how long I've been bald that they were trying to use.
So it's just like whatever they trying to use, it was like they knew I was an incooroperator before anybody did.
Who you saying the state?
Yeah, every time they came, he would know, fuck you go to Jim.
Speaker 2They thought they were gonna mabe to finish the jurors with what you had already passed.
Speaker 1No, So what they thought they were gonna do is they thought that, you know, I care about street credibility.
Okay, we're gonna put his terroorgation shot there.
Did you know everybody gonna turn and gives them and then he gonna break, he gonna testify his stuff.
We really want to do.
So when they did what they did, it's just like this just made me more of who I am.
Y'all want to play chess with me?
Let's play then yeah, I'm play.
Yeah, So that's what they did.
I stayed away from everybody.
Nobody didn't know where I would stood at a car Brian still before before I had to go testify, I said, let me tell you something.
Don't call me to their trial.
I would hurt the ug.
I told the state, don't call me to they trial.
I would hurt you'all.
Case, I just want to be left alone.
I've been through enough.
They everything to show, y'all you know what I mean.
I didn't do it.
They leave me out of it.
I'd have been through enough.
I had to fight, fight, fight, fight, defend every fucking day, and I had to go sit in jail for years behind all of this.
Man, I'd been dealing with this shit for ten years.
My nigga, y'all don't think I had enough?
Leave me alone?
Speaker 3So how that ship went on?
Speaker 1Your mental?
Like day to day like right now?
You know, man, I try to put it behind.
That's why I'm here because it's like nigga, think it thug gonna learn something and be more mature.
You got on an interview and like you know, it started because of Wooded.
So now it's like you know, people watch them like damn man who just studied it.
You know it didn't it started because it Doug.
They just be honest with my niggas.
You had jealouson on your heart.
Don't make me keep going with that.
He had jealouson on his heart.
And you know what I mean what jealousy made people do?
NBS shit right?
Yeah, she get deep, my nigga.
And I've been holding this shit in for ten years despite how anybody may feel about me or anybody I don't care about.
People are pining about me, my nigga, I'm living or walking this shit.
Motherfucker's just sitting there laughing.
I'm living this shit.
I'm going through these these emotions, these timing and I'm sitting in jail niggas leaving my family out there, praying every night on my knees that don't nobody kill none of my family members.
And when I get snatched up by the fat nigga, guess what happened, nigga.
I lose somebody that meant the word in me.
Kennibu.
I don't give a fuck what the situation.
Hear, my nigga, it won't never happen now.
F on the street, you feel me, So I don't care about how nobody feel about me.
My nigga.
Y'all ain't helping me.
Y'all ain't never putting no food on my plate.
She never took me out the hood and say, hey, hey, got an opportunity to get rich.
Ain't nobody never did that to me.
Bro, my whole entire life, never had nobody take me under their wing and help me be great, help me be better, help me find my purpose.
I said, had nigga to get in my life and be bad influenced.
Hey go over here and do this.
Go over here, man who I got wooded with me?
Leading me stand into a hole, a deeper hole.
But now look at me, God deliver me.
Gus I got you.
Speaker 2What was your mental life like behind the while, like when you just explained like praying that, Like how did you how did you navigate through that day?
Speaker 3Today?
Speaker 1It's up time.
It took patience and I had to build a relationship with God truice.
When I'm when the Feds got me, despite how anybody feels or help it, I was like, these people are real, nigga.
The Feds got me.
Yeah, it's real, nigga.
We see that she's on TV.
He ain't believing in those feeds.
But look, my nigga got me for real, nigga, I go up under the fucking crown the end of the courthouse woking this motherfuckering.
I thought their feds get millionaire.
Niggas ain't even got a fucking bank account.
Yeah, they got me because of a song.
So what you were charged with when you went to the fed possession of fire on nine twenty two g one?
Speaker 3You're saying that that that put them on you.
Them lyrics put them on you.
Speaker 1Yeah, so what happened was in twenty fifteen.
We all know what took place.
After they took place, You know that I went down.
Of course they let me go there.
They didn't have a clue what happened.
I ain't know up they I was a target because what happened they keep showing my people houses.
The police was so dirty that they telling my family, Oh, this is because of Woody.
Your house gett shot because of wood protest the wrong person.
This is what the police telling my family.
Bro.
Speaker 3But they could have thought that though, right, I.
Speaker 1Don't care what they think.
Why you're trying to turn my family against me?
Oh yeah, maybe don't come over here.
Don't come over here.
Tight shit.
Nah, They're just like, hey man, y'all needed you fee what I'm saying.
Say something.
So now my brother get mad, like nigga, you're the reason that we can't.
I'm sleeping outside job.
How wa ain't on any niggas to come, Nigga.
I didn't even sleep, nigga, only the way I slept with when they locked me up when I had my baby, and seeing the nigga ride up on me while I had my baby, Nigga, I put my babies so they can see.
I got my baby bro and my girl with me.
When the nigga rolled up on the side me, I could have killed them by hoping that they give me some type of grace.
But the niggasna give me no grapes.
They let they want not put the gun down and I bust on their heads.
Fuck nigga get up off for us and I stopped.
I had to save my bullets.
They wore survival, my nigga.
I didn't know to save my bullets.
Normal I would have gave it on the whole clip.
But a couple of days before they happen, Oh, you said, count your bullets and that's what I did, and they saved our life.
So when they come to this street shit, nigga, ain't no rules, I'm out the screech.
I don't want no problems with nobody.
I don't want no beef with nobody.
I don't want to hurt nobody, and I don't want nobody to hurt me.
I focused on these kids because I once was a kid that would need the guidance and I was lost.
That's why I love these kids and be there for them so much.
Speaker 3You're trying to get on what you never had.
Speaker 1I'm trying to make sure they don't go down there path I went down, Yeah, analyzing the wrong people, praising the wrong people.
The niggas making money off of our traumble, the same people that the labels that they signed to invested in prisons, my nigga, that's why they pushing these drill music.
The labor's getting money both ways, because soon as you go drill or something, go to prison, they getting paid off you being in jail.
They get one hundred some dollars a day per inmate.
They gonna stand business forever.
Mm hmm.
It's the crazy pivot.
Speaker 2You did know like to make money off to actually baby standing your standing your light, standing a standing a dim light and make it bright.
You get what I'm saying, Like today that I see you doing the comedy ship.
Now you know what I'm saying, I see you like that.
That that's commendable, bro, because most niggas are laid down, like through all the ship.
You're just saying that you went through and you know what I'm saying, could have lost your life because somebody in your family could have lost their life behind some ship.
Speaker 1Did they saying you did?
Or whatever?
However it go?
Speaker 2And for a nigga to still be able to be positive, it's like it gotta be good.
Speaker 1It did God?
I they say, walk in your light?
Yeah, I ain't got no I ain't got no skeletons in my closet.
My nigga, if you fuck with me, I fuck with you.
You feel me simple like that.
If you don't do that to me, I'm not doing that to you.
And I ain't pretending, bro.
Like I tell everybody, I come in peace.
You feel what I'm saying.
I love I love everybody, And like I said, I just had an interview the other night where I was just interviewed to youth and one of the kids.
One of the questions was the child asked me, I mean, I asked them, how did Thug and Luci come together?
How did it make you feel?
And surprisingly their young nigga change my heart, he said, saying Luci and Thug come together, made it where they can hang with summer hell in Cleveland Avenue.
Niggas.
Damn, Damn, that's pee right now.
Speaker 3Damn, that's real though, it made it to where it ain't divided basically.
Speaker 1Right yeah, right, So now now I'm like, dang, bro, I ain't look at it like that, yeah, because you got to understand it, Broke, I've been bating this ship for years.
I've been battling for years.
Bro.
I had the worst end of the stick out of everybody involved, cause everybody tyking me.
Speaker 2Let me ask you something, do you think in the moment of all that shit, like you were you you were somewhat with having that that name like ship, that boy woulded that boy would have got them pull up and got them.
Speaker 1You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2That ship was kind of like a badger honor back then in hindsights and looking at it, it was like shit.
Speaker 3They know but now, but you didn't know what all was gonna come with that ship.
Speaker 1Now like I told you, like when we got them people that's in our life, that's influencing us all, we focused on keeping them happy.
I didn't care about what I was doing.
I just cared about keeping him happy, keeping him I'm safe, keeping him feeling like he that nigga.
You fee what I'm saying.
Speaker 2So I didn't care how you felt, like like just say, Vincent, knowing when you go around niggas thinking, oh they go the nigga on that bullshit, like how that made you feel in the in that moment.
Speaker 1I never, I never, I knew it was to rock rob type so like, but.
Speaker 3It was already on you though.
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2It was already own not not not you've been because the nigga see you and you be cool, but niggas already see you and avoid you because it's on your name, if that makes.
Speaker 1Sense what I'm saying.
Yeah, I get what you're saying.
So so with that, it's just like the first the first one minute is critical, you know what I'm saying.
Everybody you know trying to figure out and The first thing I do is make everybody left, Okay, yeah one day like oh man, that nigga cool man, Now, everybody grab a change to me.
They don't even want to leave from around stuck on my every word.
You know what I'm saying, because, like I said, the Internet tried to put these you know, king one image on me, but that ain't who I am.
You feel me?
Yeah, so I feel where you're coming from.
But you know how, I ain't embracing that.
Man.
Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Then where are you bracing it?
Back then?
Though?
Noah, it wasn't like that because it was secret, like the nigga be like, oh damn n you know what I'm saying.
I see that look on their face.
But it was never it was never public.
Yeah yeah, even.
Speaker 2Even with even with the nuts Chain ship, like it wasn't hard for them to believe, like man, he nigga probably got this ship.
Speaker 1And you know what I'm saying, to be honest with you, I ain't no I was did.
I ain't no.
Speaker 2I was there they trying to tell you, like from from being over on this side, like from being on this side, just looking from a far I ain't know y'all like that.
Speaker 1Y'all were young niggas.
You know what I'm saying.
I saw you one time in Pluto Studio and you know what I'm saying, niggas looking like what they're saying, niggas doing like because I don't know a long time, I'm gonna bring it up because I don't know if you remember, I think you do.
A long time ago, something happened and it involved some people that you messed with, and this old guy from my neighborhood like, hey, let me how let you got know this ain't your squilo.
He folk trying to say you did this had something to do to my dog getting kicked, and they brought your name up.
It was like and you getting involved something like because the dude he messed with you so instantly like man, look man, you know so I go, I say, look, brother, you're putting people and ship.
They ain't got nothing to doing nothing.
I didn't just say high rock.
You know what I'm saying.
I don't do that.
I don't know nothing what you're talking about.
Yeah, I tell you off the camera, you know what I'm saying.
But when you bought your name up, so now I'm like, Damn, a nigga won't smoke met you.
You don't even say like so cause your name.
You know what I'm saying, Like damn cool, so cool bin't wanna smoke nah, But.
Speaker 3You do know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2So I know how I feel for a nigga to have something on your name that ain't even you like you gotta think, Bro, it's a nigga can be around me right to do something.
They gonna say, you know, blacknam and I ain't.
I don't even know nothing about nothing.
But at the time, I was like, fuck it, they're gonna takeing everything, come with this shit.
Fucking wait, you get saying like I don't give a fuck shit nigga bel a myth bigger until they start talking about them Rico.
Then when I started saying, hold up, nigga, go to jail for these myths and I ain't got nothing to do with a lot of this ship.
Speaker 3You know what I'm saying, that won't trying to say.
Speaker 2So you are what you're around or you are you you take like Bro, I feel so at peace that I ain't responsible.
Speaker 3For another nigga attitude.
Speaker 2Bro, this's his best thing ever, Like cause niggas wake up mad at they bitch and go start something a whole another nigga got me on a wall.
That's the best feeling ever, would it?
Like, I ain't gotta be responsible for how another nigga feel.
Speaker 3You see me by myself and two women in here.
That's it.
I ain't responsible for nobody, nobody else feel.
Speaker 2And that's the worst part to be bru trying to be locked in with niggas and you don't.
You can't control what a nigga do when you ain't around.
Like, look, a nigga just sat there and said whole time, I'm not even knowing that Woody think ain't beefing with me?
You get what I'm saying behind some more nigga shit that ain't got shit to do with me.
Yeah, no, when I see a nigga, even though I'm already looking for niggas who won't pay back from way back anyway, So this shit for everybody who you get know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3So I don't know.
Speaker 2I'm like, watch all the nigga like that, and I don't even know what's going on because the niggas we in the street at this time.
Speaker 1I ain't gonna lie though I ain't.
I ain't no muggy back, then I will yes ugly Yeah, yeah you were, but your name, your name is like way up here.
So it's like and the nigga who's doing it, he acts like he pushing the line.
So I pull up on him, like, hey, look, bro, let me tell you something.
I don't play by my life.
You know what I'm saying.
You getting other niggas involved.
So nigga like, nah, whoot the man.
You know what I mean.
But if I did an damn you.
First of all, I know how to steal some cars.
I'm gonna use my head what gud gave me my You know what I'm saying.
Nigga like, man, who so, But dude, I talked to he messed with you too.
He gonna go then he so when he came, I know it's serious.
He like, I got your back, Lebron.
I make sure you're good.
And he's supposed to talk to you and you're lift the long camp.
Speaker 2But we'll see offline.
Wyoaw that ship sounds like a big ass big ball camp.
Yeah so now, but your name can't have you and ship that you ain't even in, and that ship cool when it's just streat ship that she ain't cool.
Speaker 3When the folks go to god Damn saying.
Speaker 1It ain't even cool when his speech.
Because you want niggas to feel like, don't play, No, you don't.
I did, Nah, I don't because like I tell people like, I ain't a tough guy.
You feel I'm saying, I was somebody living a life.
You know what I'm saying, A lie?
Okay, I was pretending to be crazy.
I pretend to be you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2But sometimes you have to stand on that, pretending on exactly and you know what I'm saying, so that pretend become real.
Speaker 1Right, so that I'm trying to tell you like I ain't pretending no more scary hell you feel me like real it's.
Speaker 2Out yeah, but back in the street days, it's like when the nigga's out there, bro, it's a dog eat dog.
Speaker 3Bro.
It's like the owner of the strong survisor.
Speaker 1It's like, what else you're gonna do?
Let me tell you the crazy things I seen.
I seen a nigga do something too.
Somebody that person he did something to can't make it, did something of him.
He went to low I don't see the nigga do something somebody and then that person can't baby this on and got what.
I don't see so many differences scenario.
Yeah, it ain't even right for you, bro.
It ain't right if it ain't about protecting my family and feeding my family.
Man, I don't want no parts to it.
Speaker 2And if a nigga can't see that, nigga, Steve want see bank different.
Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
I'm just being you look good on you.
They don't say when you walked in the motherfucker.
I just had a suit on interview and the nigga with a suit on.
Speaker 3Real ship.
Speaker 2So I'm a whole different nigga.
So I get it, bro, because at the end of the day, Bro, this ship ain't the same.
Now, if the streets was okay, s we're gonna handling in the street, I can respect it because I feel like I can like how it is in jail or whatever ship, nigga ship, you know what it is like you said, niggas back playing me dropped my flat?
Speaker 1What come back with my ship?
Passed up?
Speaker 3What?
Speaker 1Because he's gonna stay some jail.
Speaker 3But then niggas in jail.
Speaker 1Telling them but telling ain't never been part of the game.
Yes, but it wasn't as bad.
Yes it was bank and just when the Internet.
Speaker 2Brother consequencing to it though, it was consequences to it.
Though, No, no, no, bitch, you ain't get no pussy, no more want no more money.
Like if your head came out that that's what you are.
It was consequences to it.
Speaker 1Bro.
If I was a white man, I walked in that courtroom and did what I did, the world to be fucking for sure, for sure.
But due to the fasts me the one who everybody want to hate me, you know people when that got killed Lord for me, I didn't even want to, you know, get in there because one ain't family, imbna ask me?
Could I stopped?
But they got to understand, like like it's your story right forever, live go listen.
So and my condolences to everybody involved, you know what I'm saying.
But what people got failed to realize is, bro, man, it just like how could I put this?
Bro?
How could I put this?
It's so deep, my nigga, you feel me like real talk, But people don't understand, my nigga.
People don't everybody out here.
Speaker 2But I think you, I think at this point right now with it, I think you're looking into it too far.
I don't think it's as bad as you think it is.
I think you just thinking about the ship that from the past or the trolls.
I think niggas actually feel as if though.
Speaker 1When this man died, bro, everybody knows said I did it.
Oh everybody, nigga, everybody convicted me homicide.
Said the man ain't even been pronounced dead yet, and your name's main name coming up?
Why them?
Speaker 3Why do you think that was so?
Speaker 1Because the stupid shit I've been doing will put a lot of fearing, a lot of people hurt.
And the best way to get me off the street is about what.
Try to snitching on me, all right, so the street try to get rid of me.
So everybody's saying this is saying that, like I say, my nigga, what I what?
I what I was able to you know, because I pray and ask God to directly leave me.
Lord, I'm lost twenty fifteen, I said, Lord, please help me.
I don't know what to do.
If I go out to jail, somebody gonna kill me.
I'm gonna kill smile, I'm gonna spend the rest of mynt I'm gonna lose, lose.
I went see up the Feds at my door.
I had to go through five years in the FAED.
Well four years is three months I got out of jail.
I started trying to do music.
I tried.
I started trying to create a lane for me while when you know how to be baking.
I ended up going back to jail because I still was around these same people.
Do you think that jail was saving you?
Though it did?
It did, but I ain't saying jail now.
I mean, should be a party.
Anybody plan to be saved?
Oh no, for sure, for sure, jail saved me for myself.
I was my song in there exactly.
Yeah.
Speaker 3Do you a chance to get your mental together right?
Speaker 1Yeah?
Cause I woke up one day, bro man, my name was involved everything that was going on, shooting happening in the club.
They said it was me.
I'm seeing her saying my shot.
I can't take a break now, I gotta go to wal These niggas and this niggas is a street leg yea legend.
So I know they canna popably smoke me, but I gotta smoke as many.
Speaker 3Will be Okay, Yeah, br real talk.
Speaker 1It's like boy wooded wood Wood the wood.
Speaker 2They're like, fuck, but that's just But that could have been the same thing as og was telling you that they gave you a short and I gave this nigga alone, like nigga played the same game on the street, like Okay, let's see if he that bad, let's put him get with back.
Let's see what the nigga.
Let's see how this goes saying what are the tougher young nigga?
They trying to say, O, g on this shit.
Let's see he said this.
Now that okay, they want you to come straighten me.
Then they'll be like, you know that would it?
Speaker 1Oh?
If I make it, that wouldn't Okay, Now what's a full blown walk?
Oh?
So shit, I don't even know what the fuck you talking about.
In twenty twenty five and that shit probably what what year that was?
So do what?
Let me go back into the trial because I don't know if y'all ignore it.
I ain't while y'all overlooking, I ain't watched the trial period for show.
Everybody did the world.
Speaker 2Everywhere I go, I just love you on Instagram, Like on Instagram, they got they got like top ten wooded moments and all that shit, go ahead, go ahead.
Speaker 1And when a lot of people head about certain calls, you know what led to certain points where they were trying to say somebody was gonna hurt me.
So people say, oh, a nigga, you like you, dis lawyer, you told that, whatever the case is, they say, But people not, they're not paying attention to what lead to that point.
So it's like, if my lawyer to you, to you, I'm not already not explaining myself.
I'm letting people think they want to think he's I can say I didn't do it, you know what I'm saying, because I'm gonna defend myself.
But instead I just defended myself.
But if I'm being loyal to you, and then I found out y'all niggas playing on me, I'm not ready to find a war by myself, y'all niggas ain't even helping me.
Y'all think y'all gonna give me up for the enemies.
Hell no, so y'all ain't for y'all ain't fna lay me the risk.
Just try to say, okay, everything's squashing now, Yeah, y'all ain't doing it.
So I'm gonna go to war with everybody.
But couldn't that be a parallel?
Could you be in parallel?
Because people was around, was coming back?
And then I you know me, I'm I ain't stupid, I play stupid.
I called him temperature, check your ass and the heartbeat because I already know people on the instrumate me.
So I made a phone call.
I said, Oh, what's shall they it?
Oh, he ain't right here.
I said, okay, tell them it's up crashing out on them when I see him.
Oh man, y'all letting people get y'all confirm, listen to people about your life.
Well, hold holds, slow it down, slow down.
I got on the phone with somebody and I told him, Hey, man, this was going on Wenna crashing.
I don't care who'll see me, nigga, we're gonna we're gonna do this.
We're gonna do it the right way on site.
But why y'all letting people get in your head?
Y'all know people don't want to see y'all together.
Speaker 2Oh y'all are telling me somebody feel a way about me.
Speaker 1Now, basically saying that you're going through the same thing I'm going through.
You use y'all.
So it me and you got a problem.
You over there.
I'm over here and people tell me, oh, man, don't truck bank this net, bank this net and then they telling you, hey, you need to do this.
They'll do that.
So now your people see what you're dealing with.
I don't know what I'm dealing with.
So I call your people.
Speaker 2My people just confirm you that I feel away, yeah, something like okay somebody yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 1And then you start doing certain stuff.
Bro let me tell you something broke.
I see right there and be quiet.
Suck up the game.
So as I'm sucking up the game, I'm learning from you because you're doing all the talking.
I'm knowing how you move on, knowing how you think.
Nigga go to posting me on Instagram.
Oh no, you hear me, because I've been ryding with you.
Boy, I'm lowering up like it's December thirty.
First you fear me.
Let's let's let's not pretend my nigga just let's just go out there and crash.
Everybody want let's sen meet up at the footbolls On field where nobody else won't get hurt.
This type nigga I am we got a problem, nigga, we got a problem.
I'm not gonna sneak you.
I'm not gonna stab you in your back.
I ain't grow up that way, my nigga.
I grew up with my family, so betraying ain't never been in my blood, you know what I'm saying.
Then I start running with these niggas, they call themselves shlne and I'm starting to see they it'sing each other out, you know what I'm saying.
Once that line being draped, you can't come back.
Once somebody hit their ground, they can't never get back up.
Speaker 2But I told you this man, y'all meant to too grown man to be trying to think a nigga gonna be that lawyer to each other, Like bro, I can't meet no nigga dish grown and feel like he gonna god damn ready to die and kill for me.
Speaker 1I can't.
But we was because of his influence.
His influence had us thinking that, you know, okay, this is a god.
We gotta protect you, feel me, because this is the bread winner.
We niggas that ain't never had nothing.
So at the end of the day, we got to protect the money.
So we out here thinking that we're protecting you the whole time.
You're not giving the flying fuck about us.
Then you get in positions you remove yourself from us and like, you know, we don't even we didn't help you get in that position.
Now I'm saying, your talent is your talent, not taking it front of you.
But it's a journey that you had to go through to get there, you know what I mean.
The niggas put up on me and say, hey, but we find strut through over hear y'all lank.
Speaker 2But was niggas still doing stupid shit as a nigga got in position.
Who I'm just saying, like like they were saying in the I seen on the internet, they was like bro sending the niggas home because they were doing dumb shit on the road and ship, Like I don't care what other people doing, bank don't I'm asking you still doing dumb sh it?
Speaker 1No, I never do.
I just sit on the side of you and be quiet.
I'm not fear to be playing no girls.
No, Now, they ain't went on here for but your name was in ship in the streets.
Though my name was in ship that niggas put it in Nobody nobody to pay Wood their attention until you start making music.
Nothing like ship.
Let me watch Wood.
Everybody watching everybody else because they wanted the attention.
All I did was be quiet and side on the side of you to go look at it.
Speaker 3When he said in the video, you.
Speaker 1That right there because yea to understand.
Look when you no I did, my nigga, it was the time, and so when he dropped the sun it was before anything happened.
Were like, you know, okay, but for sure it wasn't true, so we didn't care.
But you never put the music out.
Now that somebody don't drop and everybody saying I did it, you put the music out.
I'm not escaped.
I'm not a fag got nigga, do your research.
These are facts.
So jail right there, nigga and always out.
Me and Jay got them boughed up side by side.
You feel me and I hold her, She hold me, so I don't understand, like why she be showing favoritism to him when she could have lost her life too.
Made you feel like she was showing face because how she defended him.
You feel what I'm saying I do.
I will I defeend him and get somebody who don't know that.
See Ja know she's talking about So it's like with her, Come on, Jade, you know what I'm saying, ain't nobody no Vietnam Bro.
You can't pick and choose or who's gonna show favorite tism to it be fair all the way around.
It's like me, you know, I'm gonna kick him cause the nigga kick me.
But when they're right, I'm gonna let to be knowing it right.
Doug a good nigga, you know what I'm saying.
He just got to be around good people.
You feel me?
Speaker 3You think do you think you ever see y'all having a conversation?
Speaker 1I love him nobody never only way I started loving him he tried to bring her on to me.
I don't see that happening.
Yeah, I don't see it happen either, because he got a good hurt.
You know what I'm saying.
Just our situations they can put doesn't the you know position?
But you but you But but I'm gonna go back to what you said.
Speaker 2You said that brou had influence or whatever, but he was still a young nigga that was getting influenced too.
Though at the same time, all that ship was going on.
Just because the nigga got talent and get that bad don't mean that they grew.
Speaker 1Up in that moment.
Doug is very intelligent.
She you are too, but you still got influenced.
I got my intelligence from him.
I spent a lot of time with him, and he's just talk top top top and schooled me that by taught me a lot he did and the main thing he taught me well, never to trust him in the beginning and once yeah, so let me I told you about betray you.
I don't care what the person do.
I'm not betraying you.
Like right now, what you think when I leave here?
I know somebody just said you say where you even though you know people know know what IM just saying.
I'm not gonna do no lame ship now.
I mean you fall out, Okay, cool, i'mna get you.
Are you gonna get me?
But on the other hand, what I see niggas doing, No, no real niggas doing.
I'm like, oh shit, I'm in the wrong feeld.
Speaker 2No, So BASI you're saying there you see nigga doing.
I see niggas doing all the BlimE.
Ship bro, everybody here talk putting their opinion on it.
Why allegedly court documents say young slime, Like, why is people looking for Lloyd to and some slime ass niggas?
Bro, help me understand throw up win in that terrogation room.
Speaker 1You're like my red as did nigga throw off?
Bro?
You need me now because I want people to understand, like, hey, I don't condone snitz and shit.
So like like when people be like, oh we the rat okay, cool fear that way.
You don't gotta fuck me because I ain't looking to fuck with you.
I want people to understand, you know what I'm saying, Like, hey man, whatever rules and whatever y'all want to put out here in the street portray it ain't that my nigga throw up in the interrogation room too.
Ain't thor say, hey man, I just try to spin them.
But y'all say, thud, you try to spin them.
But I told and then guess what I said myself my freedom and a lot of them, and at the end of the day made history.
I'm being talked about all over the world in law schools.
I get message every day from lawyers.
Hey man, we're doing a case loss search on you now.
But they can, yeah, case study, and I'm scared to hell.
Come like, oh lord, I don't you feel I'm saying I don't got got in some hot water now because it's like the government like, oh no, we're not gonna let We're not gonna let you live a normal life.
Jed people you know every day once they walk up to the cousin says, oh what do ain't know?
It's your go ahead?
I not.
I haven't received one ticket.
Speaker 3So what you think they putting you for?
Just see if the smoking and ship like that?
Speaker 1Uh am, I gonna run, try to see do I got weapons of anything illegal?
So once they say I start, they know I'm clean, but I get paid the wake up?
Hell now catch me?
Yeah, and I'm fast, you know what I mean.
So it's like the reputation I have is on fast and I'm gonna run.
But man, I don't.
I don't want no problems like I just I just want to live, you know what I'm saying.
For myself now, I've been pretending and it's just who I am.
I don't charge no squash.
It wasn't never be for my end.
I knew that once.
Okay, if a person got a problem with me and I don't pay them no attention.
They the one with the issue.
So that's why I did with him.
He charged the white a different story because you know.
Speaker 2Better, smart nigga though hard heat that nigga.
Smart nigga just make it hard because when you get in troll mo.
Speaker 1He in trolled mo.
He make it hard to be like to to be like, you know.
Speaker 2What I'm saying, just to give him his praise because charging to go so motherfucking far man, like a lot of that ship that need to be saying be one eighty percent of that ship that need be saying, be one eighty percent accurate.
Speaker 1Bro, But it is self explaining to her like it be.
It just be the basic.
He just got a way of making people accept the way that he put it out there.
You feel me, but let's be real, my nigga, right is right?
This all the way around the board.
Bro.
That means like, Bro, listen, I don't care if somebody because he's a man.
As soon as you piss him out way he does gets any emotion.
So now you tap into his feelings, you control him.
He walking out interviews and all type of ship so that it's like damn bro.
But on the other hand, it could be the character though, because when the camera, when the cameras off, this is him off the camera.
Charles Away on camera is him off camera.
I study people.
I ain't gonna lie to study.
Speaker 2I was saying to me too, but well not with me.
When when he pulled up and he pulled up by himself.
Regular, what's up, bros?
Regular turn the cameras on any of the turn and charge white.
Speaker 1Let me tell what this nigga did our first time getting together.
I said, you know everything he said about my daughter.
He had me to pick him up at the bowl Jingers on foods industry and he will buy yourself.
I was trying to see where the head of the fed behind me.
No, he ain't did and I said, I'm seeing him looking at him like see, I know he studied me too, because he made that move.
That's the only way he was gonna make me respect him.
But he understand I see everybody's people.
Ain't trying to hurt nobody no more.
Speaker 3And oh, you said, basically, he just he told you pull up.
Speaker 1Just let you know.
Speaker 3I ain't scared nigga.
Whatever Bena be, I ain't on now.
Speaker 1He's stupid.
He's stupid for pulling up like that.
He thinking that, Okay, nah, you're stupid.
But I know the world watching me, and he know that.
See Charles White, see I beat him, I outsmarted him again.
He was hoping to get the some type of reaction out of me.
Charles White the type of nigga to put himself in the situation because he only thinking about the money.
If Charles White go to jail, like like he swung on Barry.
So I met Barry through Charles White, and he, you know, he kind of managed me.
So him and Barry been they've been getting had the problems.
So Barry make me and they liked me and start working with me.
Him and Charles White fell out.
Long story short, Charles White punch Barry in front of the police, hit the come to the show.
So I'm like, Charles White swung on you.
You ain't my type of nigga.
You spot already seen that coming.
Never put yourself in a situation where Mike can hit you.
Keep that nigga in your sight.
Some mad hell at Barry.
But if we were to die that Charles White quick kenneld locked this up.
So he ain't gon to jail.
But I told Barrett, if you put put a one out on Charles White, he gonna go to Jeff misch Men.
He already don't research.
He's gonna go to Jeff misterr meaning, but he's gonna get a whole lot of bookings displain his story.
Speaker 3So I tell Barry.
Speaker 1I called Charles White like two days later, me and him on the phone, say we're talking, and he said, I'm laughing.
I said, oh, smart at you again.
During the coming of this show, he thought I was gonna fail.
The old people they cheered me on, They cleppt for me, they stood up.
I was like, oh wow, you.
Speaker 3Know, if the dude would have went for that, that's the smart ship he see.
Speaker 1He like he liked the state he tried to calculate him move.
So what he don't want to show people is that who is stupid?
You can't work me on.
It's so I had to show people that I'm human, you know.
Speaker 3So if you're in baron to try to get on his ass or something, yeah.
Speaker 1It would have missed up my career.
Like it sure, I'm buying him stupid, I'm ignerant, But this way he won't.
Damn.
Yeah, So you gotta gotta understand into that Chard's White.
You gotta understand I all smart him once.
People don't like to be all smart.
I all smarter charge White before, and you know he's like, fuck it, how could I die?
Nigga?
You have me come pick your bayt boat, James by yourself, and I took you to my neighborhood, took it around my family.
Them kids walked up on him like let me get him.
I'm like, hell no, why this an old man?
Respect your elders.
I didn't go around being upbody elders.
Yes I did, but you know you because I ain't gonna lie I didn't know better.
But Charles White is a person that I ain't got a real bout no harm.
You ain't no threat in my life.
I ain't finna be none of yours, but I ain't.
Speaker 2I'm gonna keep it real like he I seen, earl.
Charles ain't really folding like that though.
What you mean like he wherever niggas say he can't go, he be there.
Speaker 1Hey, bank, If I ain't had inny of them, ill got him.
No.
Speaker 2But I'm just saying if I didn't have it in and it listen to me my name.
Still he can't, he can't no with it, no matter what, no matter.
Speaker 1What, Bro, he can't.
He can't prepare, compare like what what you mean prepared?
Like what he can't prepare?
You think the man came to meet me?
That's out real police friends, they're taking him.
Hey, be careful with Wooded.
Be careful with Wooded.
You feel me.
Speaker 2But what I'm saying that we can't still can't take away from the nigga a pull up though.
Speaker 1Let me tell you this.
When I was on that type of time and I try to get him a pull up, he ain't pull up.
Speaker 2Well, a lot of nigga that nigga, this, the Muslims, everybody.
Speaker 1You can this and he be there.
It's different.
Speaker 3Don't take you out of it, take you out.
Speaker 1There's different.
Charles White gonna really put the law on you see wherever when like this, I'm gonna uote him.
Speaker 2When did a nigga give a fuck about a nigga call the police when you play with me?
Speaker 1Because you gotta understand you're grown.
When I had Chard's right right there while we're going through so many emotions, and I knew it was God like, you got it, you can do this.
You built for this.
Speaker 3It's saying, they all words.
He ain't really cross the real line.
Speaker 1Man, Charles White is in my past.
He's like him trying to play sleep as I'm driving.
I don't know to be mad.
I don't know what to to feel.
Speaker 3Bro.
Speaker 1I'm like, this is playing with me.
Bro.
So I'm looking at my res like where they get.
I'm right, I'm looking for twelve.
Oh.
But I'm saying myself like this is this a career move?
You know what I'm saying, Charles White, hell open doors to help me, you know, be a better man to my family and my kids.
But I keep to go to the nigga.
He trying to keep the eye called him up, just keep moving, you feel me?
He seeing them young he seeing them young boys, young boy walking up and even shaking hand.
He's like, ship, I'm like, you ready to go.
He's like huh uh.
So I'm like, you ain't ready to go.
I'm feeling uncomfortable for you.
Come looking at it.
I'm looking at my fault, like, man, please don't touch this man.
He not worth it.
This nigga lot a threat.
My daughter right here.
Look at how beautiful she is.
Just the most beautiful gift God ever gave me.
I ain't never letting nobody take me away from her unless they harm her or my other two kids.
What about all the other people he talked about, though, and God is telling them, let life deal with Charleston.
You gotta understand Charles's white is a person like.
No disrespect to him, but this fits sound disrespectful, Hey where it goes?
But he motherfucker went.
I He been getting picked on his whole life.
His whole life is about misery.
Where people help bullying him, overlooked him, and so now he's doing things because he finally got people attention.
You remem so here treating people how people treated him.
He's hurt.
Listen to listen to him.
When he taught my nigga, he said that, he said that I understaid.
He said that.
He said that, I understand.
Speaker 2He said, he said, I tried to God damn come with the right way.
Man, y'all felt was laughing at me, laughing at my car, laughing at me.
And now he understands that what you're saying, he understands.
Speaker 1He's about the money.
So now guess what he do everything content in him.
Now what he called me and said when they thowt she for probably what come on?
What come on?
Speaker 2I was like, nah, I can't do that, he said, nigga, if you ain't this ship for the money for the friend, like pull on up.
Speaker 3He never did at car but throw it called the same day, so.
Speaker 1I had to go.
You know, get that, Yeah, as you should.
Like I said, there was a dope interview with Thug, I feel like you gave him the right treatment.
You didn't.
You didn't, you didn't do doing dirt.
You know what I'm saying, because you see he hurting, and that's why I respected you for Like, despite how I feel about there, I love him.
I don't want to see him hurting, you know what I'm saying because I know, like I've been hurt for so long.
I know how I feel.
He don't know how to deal with it.
He ain't been going to jail, he ain't been in and out of it.
So that's why it's like that, Like I taid thor a snap back, get back to your old go make music.
We're still rooting for you.
We're still cheering you on, my nigga, even Luci people like, how the hell you gonna be mad at Thug and Luci for coming together but you just can't together with Charles Waite.
He talked about your child, well, Charles Wayne in the threat, ain't ain't no blood being shed, you know what I'm saying.
But then, like I said, the young man just checking me, Doug and Lucy's doing what they did made me feel like it's okay to shake my hand for Cleveland Avenue and summer here.
Speaker 3So you can stop the blood from being shipped.
Speaker 1Yeah, but it's a lot of it's a lot of parents, it's a lot of MoMA out here hurting my nigga even like a lot of people.
There wasn't even like niggas don't die on on on Cleveland Avenue side.
There wasn't really promoing the violence.
They really went with the beef shit.
Speaker 2But could we think, could we think and it just me just just be on outside, could we say that they did the song to officiate that it ain't no people.
Speaker 1We ain't saying them niggas friends, bro.
We respecting them more by squashing it.
Speaker 2But how do you squash it without squashing it all the way saying like you ask, I'm just asking.
Speaker 1So when they squashed the beef, when they brought the little baby and littleaby brought him on the state, but involved that though yes he was, say he wasn't there.
He had to be there.
Everybody already know what, say goes Doug, already let it be know where he stood, excuse me, where he stood at?
Okay?
So when when because we already you know, we we just see it, we get worried.
First, Doug and Luci is tying to be I got an interview saying if Thug and lucis squatch be, that'd be bid for the city.
But I ain't say gonna be friends.
But who to say their friends?
Doug and Lucer how they said and play?
What's his name?
Thug said, Luca hear friend when he made a post.
But I understand Thorp.
But my thing is like, hey, bro, hey, if you're gonna be for real about this right here, yetta be for real.
I went around board forgive Gunner.
I don't feel like Gunna did not wrong like everybody he's saying it.
If y'all feel like Gunna did wrong, they mean Thug did wrong.
Because Shanny and yet the only two that went out of the way and reached a verdict of not guilty.
The only one went out of the way through with the process.
Speaker 2So my thing is they trying to say Gunna did because he said why there must end?
Speaker 1Yeah yeah, yeah he did wrong?
Then why he can't ever end?
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2I think that's because that's what they're saying in an interview, right, Like I just feel how you're gonna say.
Speaker 3This ship must end?
Speaker 1Well see that or you had knowledge of crimes type shit.
Speaker 3Then only two things that that that they.
Speaker 1Signed to say.
But gun the only way they ain't got no interrogation video helped me understand that.
Jud You got a whole terrogation video, but they weren't about this trial or right, right, people rods School got lot so people don't understand this right.
Rod School got locked up twenty fifteen.
Thud An interrogation was with twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen.
One of them rad School was in jail fighting their case.
They don't make sense to you, So everybody said this and rad School Rod Scoter only went through still kept around.
Why why did you keeping Roscoe closed my nigga Carrasco got something on you.
Speaker 3Mm hmmm, why didn't you let me ask you this?
You sat down with no jump and wat with them?
Speaker 1How was that?
Didn't y'all have did y'all have problems with something before that?
Wooded today and wooted yesterday is not wooted ten years ago?
Okay, the niggas ain't worthy.
If you're not a threat in my life, you're not.
I ain't caring what came through the dough on their friendly type of time.
Hey man, they go to men right there, and you know when he came with their energy.
You know, I'm gonna feed off.
How you how you are towards me?
You aggressed?
IM gonna aggress if you you're cool, I'm cool.
We talked, you know what I mean?
What what?
What is about content?
But he the Feds too, though.
Speaker 2Hm hm, oh, you don't take you don't.
You ain't take that.
You ain't take it serious.
Basically, what makes you feel like the Fed?
Speaker 1Because I been to the figs.
You like your street niggas.
You walk in the club and you know you see the fidgs in the club.
You know right there in there they the Fed.
You're saying the ant the fidou bro?
Speaker 3How you figuring that though.
Why ain't nobody put on the paperwork on the man.
Speaker 1Cause when you're confidence formed, your name is not cash Jones or whatever.
His name's not there no more.
It's C I C S numbers or whatever they whatever.
They want a cold name.
They want to make you.
You're never going to be in the paperwork when you're when you're when you're an informment and you're working for the government, they're not gonna the ship that you're doing is not going to be documented.
It's going to be fired under seal.
And a lot of people be playing with these niggas, Like these niggas really are working, they really are on.
That's why they're doing what they're doing.
The fizz set here and watch these interviews and what's the name and build their cases on it, and you know they doing it.
Well what it is deep?
Right, what it's deeper than they can get.
Gotta think about he been in the game long enough to keep the fig The figs don't care about money all.
They cared back this information.
What's going on?
The figs want to be ahead, I feel so if you go look at the interview, well, how long have you been free?
He said?
You know, twenty some years or however long he's been free, right, And I asked him, when you under the federal the government payroll, you know, an informant, do they lock you up?
And he said no, I lift it alone.
I did them on purpose.
Asking that in the interview, go back and watch, he ammitted it.
He admitted what he admitted that the figs don't want their informants in position defeed them information.
He ammitted it at his own mouth.
I just sat there and left because everybody's in the street though, right, he's in position where he could get a fags information about celebrities.
Everybody talked too much.
Everybody wanted to be heard.
Everybody want to be seen.
This com with being famous, just like me sitting on this podcast.
I gotta be able to talk to you so the people can hit the story, so they could be entertained or whatever you feel me.
Speaker 3Yeah, So I'm gonna tell you I watched.
I watch your interview every time you do it.
Speaker 1Dudes, what dude?
They got a dope?
Speaker 2D Yeah.
Speaker 1I ship yeah you that.
Speaker 2When I first watch the first one you did with them, nigga, I like, nah, buddy, untapped in you know what I'm saying like, I don't know what a nigga wore before all that, like street ship whatever.
Speaker 3But somebody done talk to this man.
Speaker 2You know what I'm saying, Like because you letting it all out, like you're vulnerable.
Speaker 1You telling God.
Speaker 3Damn like where you come from, how you grew up.
You know what I'm saying.
Your family, your man, they passed away, all this ship.
Speaker 1You know what I'm saying.
So I'm living in my truth, my nigga, That's the best place to live in.
I'm tired of faking.
I'm tired of pretending.
I ain't even talking about it.
I'm just doing it.
Yeah, every time I turn around doing something, you feel me.
I got artistic kids matter shirts.
You feel me like I worked with you.
I wrote both, you know, I mean the niggas came.
He who to stop doing video with your mouth?
Who the hell is you to tell me to stop?
Well now, but see a lot of people say, what do you did that?
But you somebody like at first I made it okay for you know, regular people telling break some Yeah, yeah, Shamus did human and he should be treated equally.
Don't worry about his disability there or whatever.
Speaker 2You know what took their hairship off and then with a head on, he looked yeah and he loa super Hollywood, Ye see me talking class time you got man, God, God gonna make a way for your cheerdren.
Man, no matter what it is, you can't look past nobody.
That's one thing I never did, bro, look at the motherfucker in that situation feel like I'm better than them because they they may seem lord than me at it.
I ain't never did that, bro, because I done been in nigga.
Down there, the niggas felt like, boy, it's over with the niggas.
Speaker 1Ain't.
Speaker 3But you know what I'm saying, So I ain't like motherfucker be like, come on, bank.
Speaker 2Like I stop and talk to a motherfucker for forty five minutes, a motherfucker that you will walk past or spit on the ground, just because you never know how them folks got there.
And it's so easy for a nigga mind to shift to the wrong way and schnap and you be out said talking to the motherfucker Moon.
Speaker 1I want to know, like, bro, what happened?
What was you?
Speaker 2Because Lotti folks was something before they were that, and they remember how they got to that something.
Speaker 1Man.
People are speaking about you red talk.
People are speaking about you in a great way.
Dancing them did a few other people that I went had comes issue with and they was like, you know, man, I like that dude, bank you know what I mean?
I like I carry on.
And I told them, I said, listen from from what I used to hear about them and how I see them now, it's way different.
Like you're a great leader because you took everything you went through and you transformed.
So right now it's like, it's like what I'm doing now, I'm trying to take that niggaive shit that my pass holder and turned to a positive.
Speaker 2You did that, No, for sure, but I but it's still a challenge though, every day challenge, you know what I'm saying, Like you still see niggas online talking shit nigga DM me, nigga.
Speaker 1Be trying me to fuck way bru.
Speaker 3But I'll be like, you ain't trying me because it's on the internet.
Speaker 1You successful, my nigga, Why would you entertain somebody that ain't.
I want to do something though, for what I don't know.
Let me tell you something.
Why waste your time with a broke nigga, my nigga, fuck that, don't do that.
But you know what I'm saying, I'm just saying, that's just that's the that's like it's going on right here on my neck.
It wasn't right here, it's on a nick.
Speaker 3It's going away.
Speaker 1Now it's like it's going on out.
Speaker 2But that's just who you are, because especially when you see a motherfucker who know right now?
Speaker 1Utah, I caught somebody down bad.
Didn't even see me.
I had him, didn't even see me.
I was standing right there, didn't see me.
Never do.
I was right there at night.
I said easy, it's easy.
They would have seemed like yeah, but it's a camera right now.
Boy, that over the phone.
Get it man, Bro, it's so much so guess what I'm saying.
This niggain't worth it.
Speaker 2Yeah, my kids to slap that motherfucker mouth to get me a little simple batter shit.
I ain't gonna pay, but I get go on out to night.
Slap ship out your head.
Speaker 1Now.
I talked to somebody right, I had a plan for Charles White.
I'ma be honest.
I did bro to amliate him.
I could I could.
Yeah, Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
So what my plan was when we do the comedy, I was gonna get him on the stage with me, and I was gonna show the world that, you know, the these type nigga they talk on the internet won't see it in your face.
And I was gonna do a joke, and I was gonna, like, Charles White, tell the word how puss these niggas here and give him the West name.
You know, he's gonna cut up and be like, you know, yeah, come when you're in the nigga fate, they won't say it and see all this ship you had to say about my child and give him opportunity to say it in my face.
So you got two choices.
You gotta say it and listen, get this motherfucker going.
Are you gonna back down it?
He wasn't gonna say it, I promise you he wasn't.
No, he did it.
No, he did it because he I don't think he would say about your daughter.
Listen, listen to my nigga, Charles White, underestimate me.
He's telling me all time, my friends say, don't go around you.
I was saying, I said, and your dumb an went around me.
But you know my relationship with God.
You know, God love me so much.
Man, niggas, I can pray and ask for something, God give it to me.
The date.
Why you say because he can't, he can't.
I'm gonna give a fun You couldn't been trying to make amends though, ain't know making amends.
My daughter innocent.
She my daughters don't do that.
Make people dated.
Niggas.
She walk up on you.
If I head right now, she'll hug you.
Speaker 2No, I did what you're saying about that.
Yeah, you feel me, nigga, say like you you you went too far to feel like you can come back from that.
And for you to try to act like you're coming back from that, you just trying me now.
Speaker 1So my thing is I watch how he do other people in their kids, and I'm saying, I said, I forgive him, but I'm seeing you instead of doing this to other people.
So I didn't want to apologies.
Don't apologize because it's just who you are.
But I know that them people family wish they get their hands on I can you feel me?
But I'm saying to myself, look at him, he not worth it.
He not worth it.
Charles being a really good dude, he just been through so much, but people don't understand it.
So I tell Charles's White stock kicking people.
He looked me right in mind and said fuck him.
So when I looked at him, I'm saying to myself, like, he don't give a fuck, It don't matter to him.
But could he be so far?
So far?
The maid this the way he make his money, that he'd be like shit, but the way I make my money.
To be honest, to be honest with you, I understand them.
But the man really owns some ship like everything is content.
It's not.
It's real life.
When he was riding in my car that whole time he was working me, I was just like, Lord, keep giving me the Strengthen he I know this.
The devil tested me.
He said, you think everybody playing including him, cause let me tell you bank.
When I looked up there and he was playing sleep, I fucking General Russ my nigga.
I'm trying to see what twelve of it because I don't give a full I ain't scared of them.
You feel me, But I'm saying to myself, my kids need me more than anything.
You feel me.
Charles White caught me every day for real right now.
They caught me every day and I say, yeah, God, I know the devil man.
I beat him.
I beat the devil.
But he gonna come after this.
You think you're gonna come back and slayship.
No, because we understand each other.
You feel what I'm saying.
Speaker 3Oh, both of y'all just talking now, chard's white.
Speaker 1You don't say something else about my child.
Lord knows I'm gonna crash out.
I don't give a fuck.
Who'll see me?
I'd be.
I don't give a fuck about their violator.
I had a conversation about that.
We ain't had no conversation about it.
I let this nigga know, like, okay, bro, you did what you did.
It ain't gonna change me.
You feel what I'm saying, But I'm not.
I'm not.
I'm human, I'm not Jesus.
You're not gonna continue to kick me.
But they're skilled.
You hopping back in your emotions.
It's not about my emotion, because it was about my emotion.
I would have did it.
But what I'm saying, if you, if he do it again, and you understand saying him, it's about count.
He got no response to this, He got no reason to do it again if.
Speaker 2It's a response to this what you're saying.
Now, No by you saying hold up, by you saying you a crash shot that'll make him crash out, now by saying.
Speaker 1It yeah yeah, But then then I want him to know that we at that point or no return, because I got genuine love for you, bro.
I'm not here to bass you talk down on you.
My love for you is real.
I showed you that, my nigga.
Speaker 2I forgave you you saying you get on to talk about me, bro, But that's that's our line right there.
Speaker 3Say what you want to say about me.
But let's just let's not cross that.
Speaker 1I don't even say what you have to say about me, because at the end of the day, my nigga, like I already showed you like I'm living in my truth.
I ain't not here trying to portray image.
I better and I deal with stuff on the day to day basis, my nigga, It's only so much I can take you, see what I'm saying.
I love my child more than anything.
Every time I get in a relationship with a female, they become jeddous of my child.
Because I let it be known I love this baby morning.
I love anything, and I don't do that to do that.
But it's just like people don't know how much this baby gave me purpose.
Even though I got other kids.
She gave me when I wanted to give up.
I thought you said, if I put the phone on, you didn't live.
Speaker 2One didn't live one man.
You know he can call with it no matter if it's all that motherfuckers gonna go through.
Okay, call you in the man that Peter.
Speaker 1Four four.
Fod what that number mean?
I keep saying, this ain't your number.
God, God, you bless my nigga.
You always be blessed, and I receive that.
And with Chard's white man, it's just like, Bro, you tested me.
You feel what I'm saying.
Whatever you expecting happened.
You've been around me.
You know how serious I am.
You know when it comes to that there violence, I got zero tolerance for it.
She's like, okay, cool, you don't got no reason.
We work.
We talked.
We can't get he give me advice.
I gave him advice.
You know that's it.
Speaker 2Yeah, you're saying, brother, the way I fuck with you, you shouldn't be the one to try to push me over the limit the Wade man.
You fuck with each other.
Brother, you shouldn't be the one to try to make me crash out.
Bro, if you're saying, you fuck me basically what you're saying.
Speaker 1But if you pay attention Tocho's white, he just wanted he wanted selfness, he wanted love.
See what, I didn't know what caused the problem.
Chot's white.
Like, let's go to the mall.
Me being wooded, always this person.
I'm not looking at myself like a star, a celebrity or famous person.
I'm looking at myself.
It's the same as always being.
But we go to the mall if I want to take pictures with me, so I'm like, I get overcrowded.
IVE been in jail.
I've been in a situation where you got white people.
I don't like that.
I get, I get like you seem I'm really aggressive, but people not knowing it.
But I'm like, damn, and then you know, once I see that, it's all love.
I come back, y'all take picture.
Chot's white right here too.
We take pictures, but then I don't know what happens.
You feel what I'm saying, It's just like, damn, all of a sudden, you created a whole problem with this and you you took it to the internet, so you don't say everything you have to say.
This shit can't provoke me.
But it's like, okay, I forgave you.
You know what I'm saying normally once you know me like a lot of my old friends.
Oh man, who woo, don't told you an interrogation you one, y'all need to know me.
I gave y'all show up my back no matter what happened with me in another situation when it came to your bitch ass nigga, I defended you.
I rode for you.
I to pop my things for you.
That's how you should remember.
Yes, So now y'all, negga gona pick your thud.
I don't know y'all, don wouldn't even knowwedg y'all niggas.
Y'all all on the man nuts now though, don't win the terrogation room.
They been thug can do it, Oh he can cool, So help me understand what it was thug did they make y'all be like, okay, thug, do that compared to what it was I did?
I asked him.
See what I asked him what he said.
Speaker 2He said them nigga was actually tell him.
He said what he did well, he was trying to free his man.
Speaker 1So what he tried compared to what I did, it's a difference, my nigga.
You said he tried, I did it.
No, hold on, hold on, let me let me say this.
It ain't you know.
I ain't like I said on him.
Speaker 2If you ain't trying to defend or condemn, No, nigga, I'm just here to play, you know, politics, standing in the middle the niggas say.
I don't think he feel like you did nothing wrong with our I think only thing he said what you said was you started at a bullshit.
I don't think he feels like you me personally.
I don't think you feel like you did that wrong with all that other ship.
Speaker 3I don't.
Speaker 1I'm gonna be honest.
I got my feelings because it's like my niggas, you know, I see him take it to the chin.
I took everything, the blame for it, the snitching, I took everything, the jail time, the loss.
I took all the suffering for you to get on it on a bus name.
Me and you had a talk one day, Me and had a talk, and I looked him in his eyes and I said, trust me, And that exactly was he respond He looked at me and shook her head.
Speaker 3It's about when all that ship was going on.
Speaker 1I'm telling me and him nowhere.
Speaker 2Let me ask you something though I don't want to make this.
You know what I'm saying, just a thug thus shit?
How you feel about well, did you watch the ship with a little lin life?
Speaker 1Mm hm, I watched it?
Speaker 3How you feel about what he was saying?
Speaker 1Bullshit?
In what way?
So?
Speaker 2You said you watched OGZ do this, so you think this is what they do.
No, he's saying that that's what they basically can hurse conhurse in the dawn.
Speaker 1So so my thing is like this, this is why it's bullshit, because it's like, okay, you know right and wrong, no matter what the situation was.
But I'm not saying in a bad way to us, slight like because he wasn't no person.
They go to jail.
He don't know how this go.
Yeah, that's what he said, right, So that's what I'm saying.
But I say the bullshit because it's like he tried to throw to another gun.
I don't like that I didn't like that, you know what I'm saying.
It all he was good until he said that part, Like well moved to him said yeah, man, you know what I mean, I do a dying.
I mean I do a nigga.
I ain't doing no dying.
You know it by known to the stupid, he probably did say that, But it's just the fact that how niggas tried to play it like Okay, I followed the lead.
I followed the lead or the big the big bros, you know what I mean.
Like nah, my nigga usually did what was best for you.
That's it.
That's it, my nigga.
I mean, you got it.
Speaker 2But we gotta play devil advocate and say like he broke it down.
He said he heard Brian still say that that was a good deal.
So he thinking that deed throw up words like take the deal?
Speaker 1Could that work like that?
Speaker 2Bro?
Speaker 1Listen, this is your life, my nigga.
Why you ain't on throw to give you the green light to do something?
You feel me?
Why'd you doing that?
Speaker 3So at the end of the day, my nigga, Oh, we're a team though we were on the case together.
Speaker 1That's why I respect it.
Respected the case together.
Now, So when they did that, guess why I said, Okay, because one is this Rico.
Our lawyers should be working together.
That's what I'm saying.
Yeah, so he thinking that, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3I don't know.
Speaker 1I wasn't there.
I don't know.
Speaker 3I'm just saying what he said.
He thinks he saying.
Speaker 2He he saying he thinking by Brian telling them lawyers that they're working together, saying Okay, good deal, you got your clients.
So she and niggas like, shit, what them deal is at?
They just seen Gunna walk out.
That motherfucker so shit.
Wanna thought or told Ganne to take it?
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1If you if you on they got their case and you don't see Gunna walk out and they can't tell you to go home, you feel the wait on thorp Ord, you fitl go home.
Speaker 3If I was on their case, they'll probably have me in third position.
I can't say, you.
Speaker 1Get my nerve.
Speaker 3I'm gonna keep it in real they probably have me in thumb position.
I can't say, you know.
Speaker 1For sure.
Yeah, we slidlight shoting them sound like shots.
She never even been on the case for when exactly they had.
Speaker 3I don't think gun should have been on the case either.
Speaker 2I think the way them folks play it is okay, we're gonna get niggas in here that really ain't gottenhing to do it.
Speaker 3We know they're gonna start trying to act like they want to tell whatever it is that they know.
Speaker 1So I'm gonna tell the whole strategy to the wise here trial.
It was to humiliate Yeah, say that right, motherfuckers.
You in the head ahead.
So what they try to do is say, you know what, even if we don't get a convention, we destroyed it.
Speaker 3Yeah, we destroyed their street credibility type shit.
Speaker 1Yeah, that's why they got gonna sline light, shorty dupe.
You know what I'm saying.
You know, what they do is what they do.
I'm not trying to take away from their street image.
But at the end of the day, this whole white cerrico came about.
It really was one thing.
As everybody seen, it was only about the nut once it was everybody else was just people they was grabbing and just trying to put all that together.
There was their mistake on the state side.
You know what I'm saying, because it's like you made something, you try to make something bigger than what it was.
So when you want to grabbing all these people and doing what you were doing, that's when I noticed, like, oh, they don't care, but.
Speaker 3You do know you been not getting no more trouble in that food the counter.
Speaker 1That's why I want everybody to know how serious I am.
Like nothing, but you been not still a cable or I've been stilling out the store.
I been stilling bubble gun and shit.
Speaker 3But but dahn real shit because you pitched them folks all they did it.
Speaker 1Bro, Like, I gotta understand, I be dealing with a ten years my nigga, This ain't what I asked for.
You feel what I'm saying, I'm leaving out survival bro the state No like like everybody try to say I'm a killer.
If I was a killer, I'd be spending the rest of my life in jail with the rest of the killers.
Speaker 3You think how you think of the win is Glanville the state in there?
Speaker 1The boy even if the jury say not guilty, guilty, motherfucker glam when playing with Thug, he didn't want nobody with Thug.
And this is what I seen my own eyes of like they would put fearing me, they would scared me like, oh wow, the judge is too invested in his case, like now they want him.
You feel what I'm saying something like damn.
But that that's why I understood the power of influence, because they judge felt like, you know, I'm gonna hold you accountable.
You got this influence to do this, do that, and this is what you used it for.
I'm only assuming that were his issue because I'm pretty sure thought on know Glenville.
So but the judge will see it.
Speaker 3You got we got four years to twenty thirty.
What twenty thirty look like for Wood?
Speaker 1Right now, I'm trying to be a great example to the you know, the upcoming artist is youth that you could be whatever you want.
You can do whatever.
You ain't got to just be label to rapple.
You could do stand up coming and you can do movies.
You can do all this, be all you could be.
It's show life, it's your path with me twenty thirty, I'm being the movies.
I'm gonna I'm gonna have it.
I'm gonna have a whole big program with the youth where these people like you know what we gotta get his ass, you know what I'm saying, because he's making a difference in the world, trying to get that client ring in the linter all the way down, you know what I'm saying.
And I ain't asking nobody to be a part of it.
If you want to be a part of it, you just show up and be a part of it.
But you know, I'm gonna do it because I want to.
What's a lofts kid?
So i'ma have their kids going to the house game, Falcons game, foot braids game, just to show them it's more to life, because that's why I loved thug.
Then he can put me on the plane, took me to another state.
You know, we had our differences, but just shows you something outside of the Canada, yep in Atlanta.
Yeah, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me give you this for you go.
Speaker 2I think what you should do is go ahead and write a hypothetical book, like talking about everything that you've been through, but put a disclaimer like some of this ship is fake, and just tell all the ship that you ain't told all the shit exaggeration ship.
Speaker 1That should be a best seller.
Yeah, I know, but it's like I want to bab I even wrote it crazy.
I can tell you the intro and now everything.
It's a crazy book.
But it's like, what part with the kids.
They're gonna accept their bullshit, They're gonna accept their violence.
I was doing ship that you wouldn't even believe, my nigga.
But you gotta tell the kids I'm lying.
You can't because now that she let me tell you this, I puzzle the mind.
When I started putting things in their mind, they would never even thought about you feel me?
Speaker 2So damn, that's commendable, you saying you you'll god damn pulled back from the bag just to make should just so you won't contradict what you're doing with the kids.
Speaker 1Yes, sir, that's silent.
You gotta understand it.
Man.
I ain't know what a gun was until I say on TV I heard everybody in the rep song I wouldn't never, I didn't raise.
I wasn't raised around a gun before I saw a gun seeing it on TV.
I was like a gun by watching it on TV.
Yeah, real shit.
I learned how to drive by watching TV.
I learned how to steal cubs by watching TV.
I learned how to be stupid.
By watching TV.
So now I'm getting out here with I'm out here every day with the youth, every day when I ain't working, like when I leave him to go with the youth.
I'm I know, talk every last one on bill a YouTube.
Y'all post on Instagram, tiktop for free, post on YouTube and get paid.
So what about the streaming shit?
I said, yeah, I started streaming.
What you're doing.
You're bagging up from that streaming about twelve be pulling up my nigga my life real, bro?
You feel me like while you're streaming?
Yeah, yeah, like when I go live.
But I just went to try to take care of child's what Nigga GFP watching my live?
Niggas soon they see who I met, nigga GFP pull up.
I said, down, if you get me every I'm not laugh like that.
They nigga paranoid Nigga GFP ride by and they go sit up around the corner, wait on me.
I wait on them.
As soon as I get in my car, pull out.
Niggat come right back in front of me.
He ride this way.
I go this way.
Man bus, you turn halp me down, pull me over.
I pull over?
What's up?
Let the one of down man, this man pull me over seven times, the same state trooper, that same state trooper?
Or what I swing to know this?
You how you not notice me?
You put me over in the same car every damn chance you get see you want me to run you hoping I got something.
You want to be that super cot that locked me up and put me away for the rest of your life.
But let me tell you on my niggas, I've been living a life this y'all see me for who I really am.
I ain't never going back into how it used to be.
But it's in money that streaming shit doing it.
It is my nigga.
But like I tell you, but it real, it real, bro.
Nobody want to be getting harassed by the police.
I can't.
Every time I think I'm getting my life together, they gonna come remind me we're still on you.
Then you got uther es and tell these people out in the world.
So it's just like trying to put myself in the situation like I go home and do it in the house, But I lose motivation, you know what I'm saying, to go live as much because it's like the more I say on the internet and talk it's like the more I be exposing myself.
Speaker 2But while you talking about you, why you just don't like you know how someone like like how most of them niggas do.
They just talk about current topics.
They just get a perspective on different topics like shit that's going on in the world.
Speaker 1Like the food stamps like this and that.
I ain't out the way there, okay, Like how you said niggas say something to you.
Yeah, yeah, I ain't out there.
I ain't gonna lie like I want to be all the way there, but I ain't gonna lie.
I be Danny on my way to you before God say, what the hell is you doing with Nah?
Speaker 2That's a great answer.
That's why I said that.
Why they know they be like bank man, you gotta start speaking on them.
I ain't speaking on on nigga because I ain't gonna be able to take what they say back.
So I just let them folks gone and ask people questions and give them my perspective and could you look at it like this?
And the fucker I feel about it?
You know what I'm saying, Because that's when nigga go to that's when shit happened.
When you personalize how you really feel about something?
Fuck how I feel about something?
You ad me how I felt about some shit?
I told you, well, it's how I feel.
But other than that, I ain't volunteering that.
Speaker 1Let me show you how unique God is.
Last year God revealed everybody hand to me.
Let me tell you what God knows about me that most people don't know.
I'm a good person by heart, and from which on witch you every step of the way, every breath I take.
I ain't never did no land shit, no nigga person never.
It's something I could say proudly right there, I smile, nigga got it, ain't gotten any of my past where I gotta.
If I said I'm snitch, I don't give you a fuck shit.
We know the truth, bro.
I would give you my last if it's a thousand dollars nigga, I don't give a fuck.
If it's my lass, I will give it to you.
And that would be my damn problem.
They've been my problem because I said, before I reward you, I'm gonna show you my nigga.
I couldn't even get ten dollars to getting done to eat from nobody.
I couldn't call nobody's phone and ask them to pray for me.
Nigga.
I went three days while eating nigga all I did, work out and prepare for their trial.
Nigga.
I told my family every day, Nigga, I'm about to be rich.
Nigga.
I don't know how I feel it, but you know, that's that's what That's what for any nigga at watching, that's what it is.
Speaker 2Bro.
Speaker 1When you're going through the worst times, the best times are near.
Hey man, that's the truth.
That's the God of the truth.
You know what happened my nigga.
Nigga woke up the next day, nigga and had to go in the courtroom.
Nigga and look, my nigga, I ain't even tell my family to come.
And I called them and told them this last time I go to jail because I gotta go to jail.
I gotta go to jail.
I gotta go ahead and plead the fifth because this ain't my duty to see the up here.
Speaker 3And oh yeah, the first time when you went in there, yeah it ain't they booked you to them.
Speaker 1Yeah, I went to jail.
Yeah, people ain't realize it wasn't.
Speaker 3Scared of So how long would you have to stay, have to stay if.
Speaker 1They were gonna take me to court every day.
I didn't even know that.
I thought that once I pleaded the fifth I just want to sit in jail to whatever I told them, people give me two years.
I willing to go see in jail for two years for people there.
I feel like said, fuck my life, but you had to stay in jail till after the trial.
Oad that jer just told me indifferently.
I still can't pronounce it right, and definitely something like what they mean that nigga said until every defendant resolved, every defendant.
So I'm like, damn, they could take years and then you know it's me.
How could you outsmarte me?
You feel me.
I never talked to you.
I never talked to the prosecutors for them to know what my resp one is gonna be, my attitude gonna be, never talked to the defense for them to know I did.
Speaker 2Told Brian, still don't bring up what I did.
So when that you can cat okay, I'm fin of aut Damn, just go ahead and be wooded.
Speaker 1I never was my nigga.
Don't force me no matter whoever it is.
Don't force me because when you forced me.
I'm standing up to you.
I'm stunned for myself.
Speaker 2Oh you're saying I was never gonna go do it because I remember you put out a tweet or some I post doing the trial.
Yeah before they were right right before the trial, Yeah, right before you got got caught you and what you had said, something like throw up my boy something like that.
What you said the innocent Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Nigga's already saying like, I ain't going in there.
So your whole thing was then your mindset was I'm plead in the field.
Speaker 1Yeah, the prosecutor.
I've been told them I'm gonna pleat the field.
Every time they locked me up, they offered me time served, you go free, no papers, no nothing, I mean just say no.
So they saw what I was doing.
That's why they put the interrogation video out there.
Okay, let's take a street credibility of the way.
Then he gonna cooperate.
No, I ain't.
I don't give a foot by how these people.
I'm living his life.
I don't care what these people think.
So when when they didn't indict me and didn't charge me, I was like, oh wow, you feeling God's good.
God is real and you know whatever come with it, You know what I mean.
I don't wood him, so I not to hunt myself.
So when I was going to trial and I was seeing it there, I didn't.
I didn't have the feeling because I never thought I see myself understand you know what I'm saying, but as in understanding cooperating, I knew I'd never do that despite how nobody feel.
And I don't know if any nigga out there want to test me out, you know, get some stripes.
Let me tell you what the police ain't gonna never do.
They're not gonna want to never sit down and interview me.
My credibility to law enforce me is dead.
Speaker 2What you hold up, breaking down what you're saying, you're telling them what I'm telling him to pull up cut The police gonna bleed them over you regardless.
Speaker 1I'm saying, my nigga.
If a nigga feeling in some type of way towards me, my nigga, and you feel like I don't deserve to be treated like any other person doing you, you want to take upon yourself and eliminate me.
Pull up you in your head like me that's all in my head.
Speaker 3The niggas won't pay back from way back.
Speaker 1That's all in your head.
Because I want people to understand it ain't in my head.
I want people to understand like I ain't missing with nobody.
Y'all ain't got never speak to me or deal with me a day in your life.
Y'all spending your time investiting me and worrying about me.
You ain't got to rip about me telling on you.
The police won't believe me.
The police don't like me.
They don't fuck with me at all.
So if you want to come do something to me and I live, you ain't got a rabout going to jail for it.
Me knocking on your front door.
Lick that mhm.
Speaker 3Now you can't even absorb their energy, bro, I know like that ain't coming for me.
Speaker 1Hurt, hurt because I just took the shirt off my back and gave it to you while raining, and you out here playing too.
You had same nigga that got beat up over here, and you call it the nigga that me come ride with me?
Speaker 2Bro?
Speaker 1What who's john on you?
All?
Such?
Such?
Then?
Are you here about them?
Nigga?
Done got spent?
You're like well, what else matter know?
I mean, you don't even know.
Job already taking care of you, because that' that real love.
Nigga.
A snitches mother going there?
MOTHERU tell the police everything ain't no trial, ain't none of that straight up.
I ain't never took no cooperation deal.
I would cooperate and working with these people.
Man.
Speaker 3Never if you say one thing to the to the streets, what would it.
Speaker 1Be each one teacher, one man?
It's your life.
It ain't bak life.
It ain't hurt life, it ain't hit life.
It's your life.
Everything you go through is what you choose to go through.
Fact, whatever you embraces, what you choose to embrace.
We bring trauma and pain on ourselfs live for you go get a job.
And I say that with my heart because if I knew what I know now, I never been in this this predicament.
People think I want to be famous.
This is the hardest shit the cause any time you slept shot somebody.
I got rid by baking timz and people trying to suit me and get me locked up.
You feel me, it's so much Come with this ship, bro man.
Living a low key life is way better than living a famous life.
Speaker 3If you could say one thing to thought, what would it be?
Speaker 1Shape back, keep going, nigga.
They show life niggas.
You the goat, nigga.
God created you, Nigga.
Focus nigga.
Get back to that thought, nigga.
Let us see, let us see happiness in your eyes.
Nigga.
You know what I mean?
Get out there and make that good music.
Were still gonna ride to it.
Nobody gonna never stop me from playing Throup.
Speaker 3What what you think that got him in that space that you see him in.
Speaker 1He broken from what being cut off.
Some people don't cut him off.
They hurt him.
People ain't embracing him how they used to embrace him because they don't want their name to be tied to Oh you working with Shot and here snitch.
Speaker 2Look, so you don't think, You don't think before you think.
This just happened before all, before after all the bullshit.
Speaker 1Or when he came home he was like that, So y'all, y'all go to when Thud came home, he dropped money on money.
He fuck niggas telling that, and I gotta be the one calling them friends.
His confidence was too fucking high, my nigga.
His confidence was too high, so what life is.
What you put out into the university is what you're gonna receive.
Thud put out his bulls shit out when he got out instead of coming out showing mature maturity.
But could he could He could have put the bullshit out because he's broken at that time too.
He didn't have to.
Well, he could.
He could have been masking though I'm just playing them.
He couldn't been masking right in that moment.
Speaker 2Like couse what he's saying in the interview, Like bro, like my brothers crossed me out basically, so he could have been masking.
Speaker 1Henn't crossed people out.
He don't cross people out.
Thank about the people you crossed out.
That's like me, my nigga.
That's why I say what I say and talk how I talk.
I ain't gonna play a veetmam.
I know what I don't did.
Doug, you can't play the fielding.
You know what you did.
But let me tell you this, my nigga, when you came home, you put that nigga this shit out there, the nigga rats telling Connor Rat don't bell with gunning.
This is what you did.
If you never did that, the world already said, Doug, is that nigga.
All you had to do is to come out and just make music and let that shit be because it spoke for itself.
But instead you put that energy out there and guess what you did.
You pushed away out the genuine love that people had for you because people didn't want to see you go through that every day.
Watching Thug in court, he gave people hope.
He kept his head up, he kept his spirit up no matter what.
He didn't start looking like he looking to you you just got out.
He looked more like he's supposed to look in try now than he did then.
Yeah, if he never did what he did, Doug could have been like, you know, hey man, I squatted this way, he said.
Then we came home squat to be got to see the situated we're gonna Hey man, it ain't no, it ain't no hard feeling about love.
You know.
I mean, I'm listen to do your own thing, you know what I mean.
We still could work if I choose to want to work, or whatever the case is.
You know, you're still in the label because you're getting paid for him.
Do whatever you squashy be with luci if doody came home, Squatchy be with Gunner and Lucien.
Speaker 2An't matter whatever it is Ego though you know Ego play a part in a lot of that ship.
Seeing a nigga acting like you don't give a fuck, and I feel like you wrong me.
I'm just speaking from what he said, like I'm not speaking from what I because I'm asking these same question that you asked, Like, Bro, why he's just gonna?
Speaker 1He was like, Bro, hard to go on when you really really love a nigga and you feel like you know what I'm saying, So there, what the case?
Let me tell you something, my nigga like like people like you so forgiving, like you forgive thup.
It's like, I really know what's going on.
You feel me?
So he's like third did wrong with me?
I did wrong the thug.
I'm not gonna see him play a Vietnam.
You know what I'm saying.
I understand this.
That's why I always say, you know, like, hey, this is my nigga.
I love him.
I let it be known no matter what I love him speaking on him.
If you somebody that's speaking bad on Thud, I might slap the shit out of you.
You know what, I'm saying because you don't know what he dealing with.
You don't know where he's battling.
You feel me, everybody ain't battertest like that.
Like you know, they takes a lot to seeing in jail, my nigga, especially for a nigga that living there, high luxury life by you go see in jail boy, that ship the boy take you down boy.
So you know, like I said, but Thud did it when he started saying conn and rack, then you made a song to my Oliver snitches like man, you can call me a rat, my nigga, I brought you home, and I told you before I did, I'm bringing you home.
So if I told you before and then did, why you still feel like you know who the rat?
Why?
You know how many other other niggas on their case con said thank you bitch, I love you for life.
You know how many people did that?
You know what?
You know what I did for Thud that that ain't been in supposed I was do.
Why the police took my phones.
They wondered what I had on my I was sneaking recording the state I had my phone recording They ask and everything.
But guess what I didn't do I didn't give it to Brian still them meither I had insurance to protect myself because at the end of the day, nobody don't care about me.
Speaker 3Oh you had them, you had their interrogation video.
Speaker 1Yeah, you know what I mean.
I send that motherfucker room phone recording and I'm saying what I'm saying, They saying what they're saying, and I know this is gonna help damn.
But so you know everything I was doing to secure it, man and security.
Speaker 2It's trying to move past that ship no wood, Yeah, to move past everything, because not it's like bro resentment and anger only hurts you.
It don't hurt nobody else, like nobody else.
Don't give a fuck how you feeling about this ship?
Speaker 1You you screet my nigga?
You you you want to come out here and act like you're forgiving Lucia and work with Luca and do all this ship with Lucia.
You feel I'm saying this feeling yeah, because you could have did that with Gunn.
Now I don't want it to done to me.
It would have seemed once to see if you did it with Gunn, it's been bloodshed and not saying between you and Luca.
You know what I'm saying, Like I'm saying, did what make you look bad?
You willing to forgive somebody that was trying to hurt you and that you were trying to hurt, But you're not trying to forgive somebody that didn't know any better.
They took a Please Conan, don't go to jail coming out with all this ship.
Speaker 2So do you think if if if let's say hypothetically of God, now all right, y'all came home, we came home, Yeah, y'all, Yeah, yeah, once y'all came home.
Y'all just calling me, But y'all couldn't do that.
But it's like, bron play the ship like it was all a game?
Speaker 3Why it say?
Will be right now?
If niggas be like shit?
Bro?
Speaker 1We all found were back at home, y'all look at that, right man?
What best friend?
What type of friend they had when they been through shit with you?
Right?
Yeah?
We all made bad decisions where we learned from we all went through that.
We learned we know what and what not they do?
No more?
So why why I go choose new friends that ain't never been doing that with you?
Yeah?
Because you know how to deal with the relationships.
Goddamn, everybody showed through how much they love him.
Niggas willing to sit in jail for thug.
You heard something like shorty, you heard mon to Schlod everybody, even though we all know each other, all world was a piece of shit, but all of our lord to Thu was what it was.
Just be honest, my nigga.
So if Doug Doug come home and not do what he did, why, I said, it would have been bigger.
That's my snitches and rats.
You feel what I'm saying.
That's not the case.
This is not the situation where like with six nine situation where all his schol defends went to prison.
The boys who did go to prison in this case, they went to prison because the state had them debt to the room for what they did already, that wasn't the rico.
Them boys popped somebody allegedly for the ones who gonna try to twist this up.
They popped somebody and got caught for popping them, and they said, okay, well see y'all this right here, we just gonna put you out on this rico.
But that's how it was.
They did separately, so.
Speaker 3They all beat the Rico too, but they got charged with what they.
Speaker 1Yes, so life, for instance, you had people sitting in jail for aggravated salts compared on some stupid shit that they just doing while they was outside.
Why sale was never a game?
That's what my whole argument to the prosecutors.
A game has scruptions, had leadership, It had roles you know what I'm saying, protocols and all that stuff.
This never had that.
This is a whole bunch of motherfuckers doing whatever they want to do.
Doug is a successful man.
They made it out his environment and everybody said, oh, I'm ran behind his bandwagon.
So this is what that was.
First of all, how the hell is this a game if there's no loyalty being here amongst each other.
We all talking about slamming and stealing and rubbing and killing each other.
So how were a game?
We can't even trust each other facts?
M hm?
You feel mean?
So you know, like I said, man, it's a process that we went through.
We overcame.
Gut is so good, you know, we learning from it.
You know, thug on shape at one of these days, I hope that I pray for him.
I pray for him.
I pray for Slug.
I pray for everybody because Thug ain't the only one on this case.
See that I watched, this is what a lot of people did.
They made it about Thug.
You had, you had a little seventeen year old, eighteen year old little Rudd young man had a light sentence already if he got life, why is y'all dragging him in this trial?
You know what I'm saying.
And then for those who went to jail, they don't even exist, So you know it's a lesson learned.
Man.
Speaker 2We can do this shit all night with it, I think.
Man, once again, Bro, I'm gonna tell your brother the path of your home.
Bro, I definitely take my hand off to that and give you much praise and respect.
I think that's communable, Bruh, stay on that, man.
But with one thing about it, where we come from the shit that we know, the trauma that we've been through, That shit easy to get back in that mold bro.
So a nigga gotta goddamn just continue to pray and try to move yourself far away from that shit as possible now because like you can even hear in your conversation, like when you when you tell a nigga pull up like you can't even like you just said, throw, invite the energy.
You can't invite the energy, bro, you can't even invite it to yourself.
Speaker 1I want people to I say that I want people not human So when I talk with good sense, I don't want people to estimate my ability to push the button.
That's why I say this.
So my thing is yeah, because my life is important, and I want people to understand that my family metter to me just like your family should matter.
Again, we throw my nigga.
Listen, Bro, there's no bad blood.
If me and throug an hand, you know, is it be a time for that.
If we don't, then anyth ain't meant.
Whatever happened in life is already written.
But we ain't gonna do, Bro.
We ain't gonna sit right here and pretend like she is with it.
Ain't And like for example, it feels so much better to walk away from bullshit and them bank then't engaged in my nigga facts.
But I've been out.
I've been out two years.
I told my buddy man, I don't know to be happy.
I'll be mad.
As for Bro, I ain't nothing that on without doing that in nobody Hey man makes y'all, what's your what's your YouTube?
Woo the verse wood of fishers Man.
Speaker 3God may you say self maybe, but I'm gonna say God made wooded man, God may bank man.
Speaker 2Y'all make sure y'all go light to try.
Come into the BAT network, and I'm gonna send you the numbers.
Nigga shit, do some number.
I'm gonna send you something, bro, she never did that.
Speaker 3I got you with thank you.
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