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Welcome to perspective Bank Today, I got my dog in the building, Drell.

What's up, Quinn?

What's up?

Bank?

How you feeling?

I'm good?

How are you?

First?

I want to congratulations on everything.

Y'all killing it, thank.

You, killing it, thank you.

I feel like you know you've seen us since the beginning stage.

For sure, y'all killing it.

Man you Uh, But I like to check on your mental first though.

Where you're at, you, where you at mentally?

M I'm good.

Mentally, I'm good.

I just think as things change and you grow, you have to like roll with the punches.

So I think in a lot of ways, when poor minds were smaller, it was easier, you know, Now that things are getting bigger, Sometimes it's just a lie, you know, having to deal with like people's opinions and all of that typical stuff.

But other than that, I'm good.

I feel very blessed.

I feel very blessed, highly favored, you know.

Sometimes yeah, because it's hard not to do you not read them at all at all, So you just have people handle that for you.

Nah, I just don't read, just read.

I just don't read them because I know at the end of the day it can affect me because I care.

Oh And it's like when I was younger, I didn't care.

Now it's I'm getting older.

I'm like, oh my god, am I becoming more empathetic more sympathetic, Like I really be caring sometimes people be saying and I feel like I still try to respond, same thing with lex because we want to always seem personable.

But it's like, realistically, when you get to a certain point, it's hard to respond to everybody.

Anyway, like interacting and gay.

Like interacting keeping up the game, and you want to see personable make people feel like, oh, she responded to me.

She cared about what I said.

But on the downside, you see the bad communis too, because obviously it's more good than bad.

But but we as people will respond to the bad before we respond to the good.

And now why are we like that?

I don't know, why are we like that?

Like you go go to that one bad community, you will see ninety other good ones, but that's the one that they get.

You going, that's crazy.

Background.

Where are you from?

How you come?

Where you going?

I'm from Houston, Texas, Okay, I'm born and raised.

I lived there until I was twenty five.

Then I moved to Atlanta.

So yeah, that's where I'm from.

I love Houston.

I still go back home all the time.

My whole family still lived there, all of my friends.

Well, I did live in Nakadochi's, Texas for four years where it's like a real, real.

Country It's a real country town.

It's like two hours outside of Houston, and I went to college there.

But that's crazy everybody moving to Houston.

You moved to Atlanta.

But you know what, I feel like, I moved to Atlanta before the big boom of everybody moving to Houston.

Yeah, because I feel like that's happening right now.

You know, I've been in.

I've been in Atlanta since twenty sixteen, so I'm almost a big oh.

Yeah nah twenty sixteen one more.

Yeah.

Yeah, you got your peach exactly peach.

Yeah.

So what's some things that like growing up in Houston that you just took along with you on your journey, like like your morals, like what influenced you morally from Houston.

I think growing up in the South in general, it just teached you to have good manners, you know, and in that Southern hospitality that's a real thing.

I feel like I carry that no matter where I'm going.

No matter where I go, I feel like I'm super gracious, I'm super nice no matter what.

It's so funny because I always meet people and they're like, you so down to earthing, you so humble.

I feel like I'm gonna always be that way because I'm low key.

I mean, I'm from the country, like Houston is coming up now, but I mean when I was growing up it was very much country.

So I feel like just being down to ears, having good manners, caring about people, all things.

That I grew up.

So what was I asked Lexus to what was your dream to be as a child?

Like, did you dream to be an entertainer?

What was your dream?

No?

I didn't, actually, Like I wanted to be a psychiatrist at one point, and then I also wanted to be a lawyer growing up.

I feel like entertainment came later down the line, if I'm really keeping it one honey with you.

When I went to college, that was my major psychology, and I was like, oh, these shits too hard.

Actually, I'm about to.

Get into entertain because I would always run into people and they would be like, you have such a great personality, and I'm like, you know what, let me tap into that and switch my major over the mass communication.

So that's what I did.

But you're still doing it though you're still doing psychology.

Like even though you know, yeah, even though y'all have fun, people are still growing with y'all, you know what I'm saying, Like, especially the girls that watch y'all.

The people that watch y'all, they singing and they learning too at the same time, like because they learned from our our mishaps.

You know what I'm saying.

If somebody wants to start a podcast.

Even when you said by you just saying that just because you went to school for one thing, your destion was to do this, to.

Do something else, Yeah, that's true.

Yep.

How so you say basically your journey just took you.

Well, you know, I changed my major when I was in college, so it was psychology yet first, and I had actually already had like college credits when I went to college, so it actually pushed me back when I changed it to mass communication because I was like, Okay, I think I want to get into.

Entertainment, but I don't know what yet.

I thought.

I used to think I wanted to do radio.

So when I graduated from college, I actually interned at the radio station.

I don't know if you heard it in ninety seven nine bucks, it's pretty popular.

Well here's yeah.

Yeah.

So I interned there for a little bit with this radio personality out there.

His name is Kiyat.

He let me shadow him for like two months, and I was like, mm, I don't really think radio is my thing.

So when I moved to Atlanta, I knew I wanted to do something in entertainment, but I just wasn't sure exactly what it was.

And then when Lex ended up moving out here a year after I was living here and we started our YouTube channel and then we turned it into the podcast, I was like, Okay, I found my niche.

Yeah, So did you have any moments where You're like, man, fuck, ain't for me?

Hell yeah, Because I'm an instant gratification type of person, and if I'm really keeping it real with you, I need to see the money.

Where's the money?

Where's the residual.

Yeah.

So like with podcasting, you know, I think, especially now, people see how lucrative it is.

They see how many people that are doing podcasts, that are making so much money, and everybody want to get into it.

Now.

When we started podcasting, it really wasn't that many people doing it, and it was a slow grind to make money.

I mean, it's still a slow grind to make money, but it was a real slow grind back then.

So for the first two years that we were doing pour.

Minds, we ain't make no money.

And then I remember we finally got our first eighty six dollar check.

How much eighty six dollars?

But you couldn't tell me shit.

I was like, okay, we all, yes, we finally getting somewhere.

So we had got our first eighty six dollars check from this ad company that we was working with, and they ended up firing us two months later because we was putting the ads in the wrong areas.

But it was dope.

I was like, Okay, now we owned something.

But I wanted to cite fucking back then and the times were licks and I had our rough spots in our friendship too.

But yeah, that's why about to ask like, how do y'all keep that?

Like, how do y'all I heard what she said, but how do y'all keep that balance?

Though a boy staying friends?

Yeah, just staying friends and in business Number one.

I think you have to really love your friend, you know what I mean, because it's gonna be times where y'all don't see out of eye, but you have to look at them for who they are, not the stuff that they do, and understand that y'all gonna go through rough passes.

And it's a part of growing.

Like me and Lex been knowing.

You sure to since twenty fifteen, it's twenty twenty five, that's ten years.

Neither one of us are the same people that we were back when we first met.

So you have to understand people are gonna grow and people are gonna change.

And I think it also help when you have a common goal.

One thing about her and I we both know where we want to go in life, and we both know that poor minds is a great catalyst to get us to where we're trying to go.

So with that in mind, no matter what we go.

Through, we always keep it between us and we work through it because we know what the goaliem.

So what you think the what you think the balance is what she bring that you don't bring, and what you bring and she don't bring to the whole dynamic.

Hmm.

What I think Lex bring is like she's that friend that you can go to and no matter what you're going through, and like she's gonna make you laugh, Like she gonna make it a lighthearty, silly moment.

You could be going through the worst shit ever, but like you have a conversation with her, you gonna forget about your problems.

And I feel like she does.

She's always doing that for me personally.

But I love the fact that she can shine her light on the world in the world can see that because I feel like she does that for a lot of people that she doesn't even know.

She toushes them in that way because they could be having the worst day ever.

They watch poor minds now they not even thinking about, you know, whatever it is that happened five minutes ago.

For me personally, I think I bring a lot of real perspectives.

Perspectives.

Yeah, I feel like I bring a lot of real sheet to the show.

Like I say, a lot of the things that most people be thinking.

They just the phraise to say because of the back lash that they think that they gonna get.

But everybody be thinking that shit.

But it all balance, They're all balanced out.

And then I think we both have our moments, like I think lex is more outwardly silly, but I think I'm pretty funny too and I'm witty, So I think it works and their balances.

So do you were you ever shot or first in the beginning of the show.

Like, yeah, out of me and her, for sure, I was a little more.

I wouldn't stay shy, just private, Like I was uncomfortable talking about myself and talking about my business publicly online.

That was just never something I really saw myself doing.

Even when I thought about myself being in media, I never thought about me talking about me or it being about like.

My life and focused on my life.

I thought, maybe more so I'm gonna be interviewing people, I'm gonna be talking to them about themselves.

So I think I had to.

Get acclimated to being on camera, and then eventually I got more comfortable because I'm doing it with my friend and she makes me comfortable.

But it took some time.

Like if you go back and you look at the old episodes.

I definitely have grown a lot.

Oh not for sure.

That's the name of the game.

Did you ever see yourself reaching, like you know how people be reaching, like trying let me try this just to see if this working.

Let me try this.

You know what I'm saying.

Hell yeah, not necessarily in media, but I'm one of them people.

I've tried everything I went to I took last classes.

I thought I wanted to do last years.

At one point, I went to real estate school in Houston, and I thought I wanted to be a realtor.

Like I said, I have my bachelor's degree in mass communications.

I used to work in the clubs.

I think I took a nail class or something before.

Like, I literally have just done everything.

I've always been a person where the money head Like if it's if it's a good idea and it's gonna make me some money, let me go ahead and try it out.

So you feel like it's your purpose now what you're doing.

I definitely think it's my purpose, but I feel like I stumbled on it on accident.

And sometimes that's how it is.

And like most of the time, because it's a journey, it ain't your plan.

It's not God's.

Let me see what else we got.

But that's why I feel like when things get rough, you always have to keep that in mind, that it is God's playing in our chores.

Fact.

Oh that's why I always tell people like, bro, if you ain't you can't worry and have faith at the same time.

You don't go together.

It don't go together.

So if you believe something gonna happen, why is you worried about it?

Now?

It's always good strategizing, playing out you know what I'm saying.

But whatever for you gonna be for you for sure.

Faith and fear don't live in the same house.

Big facts.

Let me see what's behind the scenes.

I ain't right these questions behind the scenes.

Oh yeah, yeah, what's some some shit that behind the scenes, Like if somebody was trying to get into a podcast that they wouldn't know goals on, like just being a podcast, just being in media.

Period, something that goes on behind the scenes.

Like that people wouldn't even know, like you know, good or bad, like.

Wo just meeting a lot of different people with a lot of different personalities and just always feeling like you have to make everybody feel comfortable.

I think that's something that looks and I do really well.

We make people whenever they come on to college, people from all different walks of life, just feeling comfortable no matter what your personality is, because you're going to meet people that you're necessarily not gonna always align with or get along with.

But as a professional, you still have to do your job and you still have to sit there and make your work and not let the audience know what's going on.

So just for meeting.

People who you might not always miss week, because we definitely did that before.

Did you not for sure, did y'all ever did you ever wanna speak to your person Did you ever have like a somebody that you looked to like a mentor, or you just y'all just did it on a whim.

No, yeah, we just did it on a whim because, like I said, at the time, when we started Poor Minds, this was like twenty eighteen, cause we had a YouTube channel first and then we switched over and changed it to a podcast.

And at the time, it really wasn't anybody that was doing podcasts that I just looked up to.

But I will say Horrible Decisions was a really really good podcast and then we were cool with Mandy and Weezy and they inspired us to start touring.

They're actually going to inspire us to start touring them.

In eighty five South.

Y'all kill to Shit, thank you first show.

I remember y'all first show, I said, ate this ship and it go.

The first live show I think y'all did in Houston, first run.

No, we actually did our first show in Nashville, Okay, then we did it here in Atlanta, then.

We went to Houston.

Crazy he was It was fun.

It was a good time.

But yeah, they definitely influenced us a lot when it came to torn because I feel like before eighty five South and Horrible Podcast wasn't really touring, Like that's like a new thing.

So it gotta feel good just to get paid, just to be yourself, huh.

It does it.

It was amazing.

But people look at the ship that we do, is it like it's not work?

Yeah, But then I always say to that I would like to see you do.

It that it is work, hard work, can you because like you said, you gotta make everybody feel comfortable.

You gotta be on time, you gotta It's just a lot come with the ship that you.

People will never understand there talking.

Yeah, but Ben gotta be handled the business.

And that's another thing.

So it's so much business.

They get handled behind the scenes.

Like especially if you fully one hundred run your business and you have legal rights to it, you have to be im meetings.

You need to know what's going on with the finances.

You need to make sure the paperwork is in order as far as like your elc's and all of that stuff.

People don't think about that.

They, like you said, they just think we just sitting here talking on camera.

But it's so much more.

If if you said it was time that you felt like you want, if you would have quit, what you think you would have did.

If I would have quit, I don't know, probably been like a housewife or something.

To be honest, I mean, I'm not even gonna lie to you.

That's why I felt like this shit gotta work.

Like when it comes to port minds, it wasn't no playing because I was like, this shit gotta work.

Because I I.

Have never liked having jobs, Like I've either quit every job I've ever had or I got laid off.

I got laid off one time, but other than that, I ended up quitting every job I ever had.

I don't feel like I do well with authority.

I don't really do with having to be somewhere every single day at a set time, sitting in a cubicle, having to do things that I don't.

Want to do.

You know why you said, you.

Know, you know you don't like nobody tell you what to do.

Yeah, I don't.

I don't like none of that shit.

So everything folk doing is just why y'all doing it this way?

We could do it this way.

Going to a billion dollar corporation doing this shit for eighty years, and the way these folks do it is dumb to certain people, like tourists, like you know what I'm saying, It's like whatever they're doing, it's like, that's just dumb.

You could do It's an easier way, right.

And you're working all this time making them richer when you could be working on your own and making yourself richer in fact.

So, yeah, I just always knew I was gonna be an entrepreneur in some type of way.

I didn't really know what I was gonna do.

Oh, that's what I forgot to say too.

I used to have a clothing line back in the day, like, I really have done everything.

I knew it was gonna be something.

I always had that shit in me when it came to being an entrepreneur, I just had to find what my thing was gonna be.

Like, how do you deal with the nays the people that doubted you and hon of Like how you dealt with that?

I don't don't even see them.

I don't really feel like I deal with them, because like, when it comes to people like that, it was so many people who definitely used to doubt poor minds.

And I used to be like, oh they won trick ponies, They not smart.

They be talking about the same shit every week.

That relations to those relationship topics and all of that stuff is gonna get old.

They probably gonna be relevant for another year and not go nowhere.

There was a lot of people who was definitely saying all of that shit.

But to that, I just be like, you know, you see what the food going on?

What about when it be somebody you care about them and you see that they don't you how you deal with that?

How a lot of people like that you have to.

Love them from a distance, But then also understand that a lot of things be projection.

And I think that comes from not just family members and people who love you, that also come from like strangers.

Shit just be projection.

Like, people have so many negative things to say because they wish that they had the courage to change their own dreams and do the things that they want to do.

So when they see somebody else doing it, especially in the beginning stages, it's easy to say, oh, that ain't gonna be she, But then as it gets bigger and bigger, it makes you be like, damn, if I would have started five years ago, I probably could have been there too.

So a lot of the time I think it's projection and you just shouldn't take it personally because people a lot of the time are inspired and that's why they say the things that they say.

No for sure, cause they said Tessa won't gonna be shipped.

Okay, look at that she now exactly.

So what's your knowing negotiables period in life.

For myself or like when it's period.

Like when it comes down to your boundaries, like none negotiate with people.

They don't have to be relationships people period.

MM.

I don't really like dealing with negative people.

I'm a very optimistic person.

So if you're a person who's very pessive.

Me steak all the time, and you always looking at the glass it's half empty instead of half full.

I can't really be around people like that because it just drains my energy.

So that's definitely a non negotiable for me.

I would also say people who just don't have no work etheque or who don't want more in life.

Like a lot of times, this is something and I'm saying is because this is something that I'm currently a listen that I'm learning right now in life.

So maybe these like help somebody.

But a lot of time, as you grow and you become more and more successful in life, you think that you have to bring everybody with you, especially the people that were with you for like ten years, fifteen years.

But it's hard to do that when you're changing every day mentally and you're evolving and people are not.

So that's another non negotiable.

I can't be around people that aren't constantly evolving and trying to better themselves.

Do n't want to be a better version of theyself.

Some people are really cool with being where they are, and that's okay, but that's where you have to leave them where.

They at fact.

I I started looking at my life like I'm driving a bus and everybody got to stop.

No, you've changed so much.

Everybody got to stop.

Get off.

Nigga, you ain't got to ring the bell.

I'm putting your ass off the book.

Everybody, thank you.

Everybody got to stop.

Man, you can't.

You can't.

You can't regret it, you can't be mad at it.

It's just what it is.

Yeah, I think I think we put ourselves in depression and all that ship by thinking about ship that don't matter.

It don't matter, right, Yeah, for sure, I agree.

And I want to ask you a question.

So like when you decided to start focusing more on your health than going on your health journey, and so did that affect any of your relationships and your friends.

All of them?

Really?

Yeah?

It is what it is.

Like in what way they was like, nigga, what you're doing bruh?

You know, because you know when you're trying to evolve and change, really gotta change for sure, Like you can't just change one thing.

You can't just say.

And then I was just doing it for health reasons, trying to get right right.

As you lose the weight, you go losing all type of shit and you start eating, needing all that shit.

Some shit just go like you tap in spiritually right right, So people are just not even gonna be able to deal with you.

You're gonna become a problem to them, yep, because you holding up a mirror to them.

You get what I'm saying.

Once people start seeing you being your best version, now it's like.

If you don't have that consistency, I don't have that decently.

So now you so, now we got to make you out to be a fuckinginger like you going, Hollywood?

Are you changing?

Because I can got the courage, like you said, I ain't got the courage to start poor minds and get and get an eighty six dollars check and be happy about it.

I ain't got their courage.

I ain't got the courage to got them feel like I can evolve.

I'm feeling like it's like what you said, it's projections.

I'm feeling like it's it's impossible to do.

So, motherfucker get mad at you and try to take you out of character.

But sure, I ain't doing it.

I ain't going I just sit yo, stop is here.

I ain't mad at you.

I love you that's fair.

I feel the same way because I'm really into health and feed me too, Like I work out and stuff like.

Y'all ain't been on my hikes yet?

No, I do.

But see that's the thing.

I don't know about outdoor workouts.

I'm more of an indoor really.

Give me some a C.

Yeah, I need to be a little cool while I'm working out.

Working out outside stresses me out.

Just walking just walking in sweetend.

I do.

But in the a C.

And oh yeah, ain't no bugs.

So what you say you're like a girly girl.

Yeah, I would say so.

I think I'm a girly girl, like.

You know, like no tomboys hit at No.

But that's what I was gonna say.

I mean, I definitely have that ship in me though, because when I go on vacation, I'm very adventurous, Like I want to go zip line, I want to go kayaking.

I don't mind doing outdoor activities, but like on a normal, consistent basis, that's where I draw the line.

Give me once in a while.

You know, Hey, so what's the uh what's the show about?

Travel Queens?

Yeah, so basically it's a travel show.

It's about Lex and I going to different countries, different states, different cities in the US, and we're showing people all of the black cultural things that you can do in these different cities, because it's cities and countries that typically you would assume don't have a lot of black culture.

So like we went to Kardaina, Columbia, for example, and then we went to this really small town they're called Polenka, which is two hours away from Kardayina, and it was the first free black city in the Americas.

And like literally as soon as you step into Polenka, you would think that you're in Ghana or Nigeria somewhere in Africa because it's so many black people there and it's so much culture there, and they're proud to be black, you know.

Like we talked about this when we went on Ario Leisure.

I think a lot of the time, when we think about Afro Latinas, they get this bad rep for like not wanting to be associated with being black.

But when we went to Polinka, they was black and proud.

They had they pro black signs up, they had their T shirts for like you know about George Floyd and all types of stuff.

Like they're very aware, they know what's going on, and they're proud to be black.

So do you think what you what you think?

What was the best city that you visit?

Was that the best city you visit?

Mexicico City was our favorite.

It was me favor Realm.

Yeah, because it's a lot of black expats from the United States that are moving there just because the cost of living is cheaper and it's not that far from North America.

I mean not the North America, but it's not that far from the United States.

So it's a lot of black expats that are moving there.

They have black R and B nights there, the food is really really good, and it's also just a really safe place for black women to move to if you're thinking about moving abroad.

So would you ever move out of the country?

I would.

I would Actually a part of me would love to live in Europe for like a year.

When we went to London, I really really like seek and then I always hear Paris is really nice, Like I wouldn't mind living in Europe for a year.

So I'm in difference.

Well, how many different countries did y'all visit on the show?

Just one?

We only went to South America.

Let's see everything else was here in North America, because we went to Charleston, South Carolina, which is here in the States.

We went to Key West, Florida, which is here in the States.

Then we went to Mexico, cit which is you know, still North America.

Okay, Okay, that's dope.

And it's already out everything.

It came out a month ago and all four episodes are out, So you could watch it everywhere.

You could watch it on bees he Her, you could watch it on BS dot com, you could watch it on Hulu with the BC hert add on Felo with the BC heart add on YouTube TV, and right now we just you know, trying to see if we're gonna get a second season.

Fingers crossed.

It's a crazy question.

If you could switch lines with a celebrity, who would it be for one day?

Beyonce?

Real?

I love Beyonce.

Maybe it's a Houston thing, but that's literally the only celebrity that I would say I'm a stand for, like I love me some Beyonce.

Absolutely, I would love to switch lives to Beyonce for a day.

What city you gonna go to, What city you gonna go to the concert?

Then both I'm going Houston in.

Here, Houston gonna be crazy.

Houston is gonna be crazy anytime she going to where I always have to go in Houston.

Real mm hmm.

Every song switch Live.

So what's what's what you think?

Maye beyonceay so dope?

Besides her being from Houston.

Besides her being from Houston, I feel like she's always authentically been herself, and I really respect and love how she's been able to create a sense of normalcy in her life despite how unnormal it is.

Like, I love the fact that she keeps her personal life privy and she protect the people that she care about, Like her and JZ have done a really good job of cultivating a very private life in such a public city.

I just like about them two both that they just seem just so.

Unbothered that too.

Yeah, you know what I'm saying, Like, man, y'all supposed to be talking about us, right and.

Then they'll they The only time they ever addressed it is in the music.

Issue.

Yeah, the only time they ever addressed haters, ever addressed the comments anything in the music I love that I aspire to be that unbothered one d because right now I'm.

A little bothered.

Why you think so?

Why?

Because I just think that's human nature.

And I think when I was younger, I people like to say, oh, you always have acted like you don't give a fuck.

I feel like when I was younger, I really didn't give a fuck.

It has come with growth and maturity and going to therapy, tapping into my emotions and stuff more.

I think it's just human nature.

You're going to care sometimes what people say.

It's about how you respond.

Though some people don't respond, and I want to get to that level.

I don't have to, but sometimes depending on what people say, I will respond to ya as, but I will gather you quickly.

I'm not one of them.

Don't ever think I'm too good to not cut your ass out, because I would cush you out quickly.

What's the weirdest shit a fan Une did?

Though, Oh my god, it's this lady.

It's a woman, big fan of the show.

She came to the New Orleans show.

I probably shouldn't even She probably gonna be excited that I'd even to talk about these.

She came to the New Orleans show.

She was in a wheelchair.

I think she's paralyzed or something.

A huge fan of the show.

She has like a crush on me.

She was so excited to see me.

She stayed until after the show.

She wouldn't leave, so like literally security has to walk me through a whole different exit out of the door because she wouldn't leave.

Like they were trying to get her to leave, she would not leave.

And then we ended up blocking her from Patreon, which you know is serious, cause why we.

Gonna block you from paying your money?

What she be doing on us?

She would leave, She.

Would leave all type of crazy, disgusting comments about like fucking me and like just yes, like all type of crazy stuff, and so we ignored it for a while, but then after a while it just got to be too much, so we ended up blocking her from Patreon.

We blocked her from our Instagram pages, literally everything.

Now she be emailing me.

I had to block up from.

The email because I guess because it's in our bido and stuff.

But she just don't she just don't stop.

It's a little scary.

Stud.

She a stud daddy.

Yes, she is all one too.

She an all boyedel gul.

Coming.

You have to steal too, child.

But yes, that's probably the strangest encounter that I've had this far, I've had a lot of really great encounters because now I feel like I'm at a point where no matter where I go, I always run into somebody that listening to Poor Minds.

Like I could be out to eat and I always run into somebody.

But one of the best encounters that we had we had a Detroit show, our last tour in twenty twenty three, and it was this guy that was there and he did a testimony.

He said how he had been watching our show for a really long time.

He had found out he had prostate cancer and while he was going through chemo, he would watch Poor Minds every week while he was doing his chemo, and we really helped get him through that roof patch in his life.

And it was like really touching to me, she said.

She said, y'all, twins, we got that telepathy for real.

We really do it.

We real best friends for real.

But yeah, like because I feel like it was just such a touching moment.

I think for both of us, it was a pivotal point that showed U's like, not only are we making people laugh, but we really out here changing life, like helping people get through roough shit and that's what life is about.

Because some people don't have somebody in real life that they can lean on.

So that's why they like to watch these shows.

That's why it makes them feel like they know us personally, because we make them feel like we're there for them in real life.

So you don't got no kids neither, right?

No?

Not yet?

Why not?

You know?

Having a baby ain't just like a button you can push.

He's on my Why not.

For me?

I feel like it needs to be.

For me.

I feel like it needs to be with the right person at the right time.

Like I'm not gonna see, hear and act like I haven't had opportunities to in the past, but I wanted to be.

With the right person.

And I feel like I've worked too hard in my life and came too far to just become a baby mama at this day, Like you could get up more of a pass for that.

I think when you're younger.

I'm thirty four, Like what I look like just becoming a baby mama just because I wouldn't want to if I have a choice.

In So, how do you like when it all when the camera's off?

You know what I'm saying?

You chilling?

What a day like that look like for you.

When the camera's off, I love to work out, so I'm all, I'm gonna be at the gym for sure.

You been going hard too.

I've been going hard.

You saying I did seventy five hard.

Actually I did it earlier this year.

Okay, but yeah, I'm gonna be at the gym.

I actually just got in today trading.

So when I wake up every morning, first thing I do is I check my Yahoo Finance app.

I'm looking at the stock market.

I'm nine times out of teen gonna go somewhere to eat, or I might cook me a little something, might do a little shopping.

I love to read as well.

But I really just be chilling, like I'm so normal off camera, I be chilling, Yeah, on a day to day basis, no makeup, sweatpants, workout clothes.

What's some shit like misconception that people got to you, that that you fucked up, like they got me fucked up and they think that.

You know what, people always think that I'm bougie and like stuck up in real life, like they always assume I'm gonna be stuck up.

People think I'm really bougie.

They think I'm like super materialistic to the point like that that's all that I care about.

I think people think I'm gonna be mean when they meet me, and then they're always really shocked at how down to earth and cool I am.

So yeah, I feel like those are misconceptions that people have also just because of how I look.

I think people think I'm not that smart.

What you mean, like you don't have brains?

Yeah, in the early stages of poor minds.

Even still to this day, those are comments that we get all the time.

Like, I think people think that we not that smart.

But then I'm always like, I counter that with you don't build something like these not being that.

Smart facts facts a Dumby would quit long time ago.

Yeah, they wouldn't even they wouldn't even try.

They wouldn't even try.

But yeah, And I think people mistake my confidence for cocky news or errigans.

But I feel like I'm just very confident.

I'm not cocky.

It's a thin line between that though, because people that like you said, and people that are projecting they don't know the difference.

But you know, I mean, what do you think, I think you're cool as fuck?

Y'all be lit too, you see, I feel I'll just tell you remember what was in LA I said, look at it, but turn the whole ship up on y'all.

Nobody else.

Everybody, y'all have your own part of.

Having a time.

We're a good time.

But I think people expect that from Licks based off of our personalities on the show.

I feel like they don't expect that as much from me.

Do you think she triggered that for you though?

Do you think she kind of me kind of bring bring certain ship out of you that you would be chilling, but don't let my girl that's turn up.

No, I'm just like that.

But that's what she always like.

When we first started the podcast, so many people was like, why are you starting a podcast with Drea?

She be chilling, Like does she even have a personality?

Does she even be talking?

And she was like, y'all don't know Drea the way I know her, Like she cool, its fuck and she be turning up, she'd be having a good time.

So Lex always knew me on a different level, I think because we started working in the club together and so she's seen me in like an unorthodox city, so she already knew how.

It was gonna be.

So yeah, I don't think she I think she makes.

Me more comfortable, but I be turning up when I'm not with her.

I'm a little more extroverted than her.

Crazy enough, Oh yeah, you said you.

So you say you're a little bit more like.

I'll be outside and stuff more.

Yeah, because I don't never see les out now that's crazy you right?

Yeah?

So what's what's red flags for you?

Just not even in relationship, just in people.

Mmm, when people say stuff in a joking way, because a lot of the time.

It don't be a joke.

Yeah, like you dead ass serious.

Like if people always saying something specific all the time, but then they try to act like they joking, Like, nah, you're not joking.

You you really feel that way.

So I feel like you gotta watch out for that.

People who talk about their friends to you, that's a real fleg because if you're talking about them, you will talk about me.

Fact, So I don't ever trust that.

People who don't take accountability, they always the big flim.

That's number one.

That's that's number one for you.

Yeah, yeah, playing big flim Because sometimes life be dealing people shitty cards.

I can acknowledge that, or sometimes people are doing you wrong.

But then you also have to look in the mirror and be like, Okay, what did I do to play a role in me?

Why is this situation turning out this way?

And I think a lot of people just lack accountability.

Yeah, because I ain't never met a mother fucking at everybody like you.

Just come on now, if everybody's saying, it's some truth.

To everybody, didn't done you wrong?

Everybody?

Nah?

Man?

But most of the time, but that most of the time.

I hate to say this because it's a room for the women, but most of the time, be the women.

Not see here you go with that ship having We've been having a good bank, we've been having a good time.

Being one hundred bro.

What do you mean men are like that too?

Oh yeah, I know a lot of them.

I know personally, both saying most of the time, it's the women, like you never heard of woman's it's rare.

I ain't gonna say never that you have a woman saying I just won ship in the relationship.

It's always the nigga one ship.

But that's because niggas don't be shore hold on.

Hold on, I get it, I get it, I get it, I get it.

But then when you talking to your friend, you'll tell her your real friend, like, come on, bitch, you one ship, so why come on now, stop playing victam.

You'll tell your real friend.

If you're a real friend, you'll be like, come on, girl, stop ating hurt.

Yeah I will.

But the thing that men be feeling to realize is a lot of the time.

Women maneuver because of how y'all are maneuvering, Like you're the man, You're the leader, So yeah, are you not?

You the man?

You're the leader.

I'm the leader when it comes to the bullshit, but I can't lead you to some other shit.

That's how she means you're leading.

You're determining how this whole shit about to go.

You get what I'm saying, Like it's based off of you because you tried to court me nine times out of ten.

That's the way that it go.

Right.

You see a girl, she look cute, You like, okay, I want to see what's up with her?

You make the first move, now y'all talking okay, depending on how you're maneuvering, how you're taking her on days, how you're treating her, how the relationship and the communication is going a lot of the time.

That's the determining factor on how she gonna She's trying to see how you moving okay, So then if you start being on bullshit, she gonna start being on bullshit.

But men and a lot of the time have the expectation that y'all could be on bullshit and a woman is still supposed to be a good woman to you, and that's not the case.

Can you start being on bullshit?

Why do I still gotta live up to this time?

You don't?

When we gotta understand it, just don't come in acting like that.

Just let it know.

Hey, I match your energy.

Niggas can respect.

Why do I gotta let you know that when you ain't let me know you was coming in on bullshit.

But you knew I was a bullshit that nigga when.

You farily that's not true.

Sometimes niggas be completely fooling you.

We not gonna act like me, And don't be out here living double lives.

What you mean some men be living double lives.

A dude could try to come holler at you and then you thinking that y'all really getting to know each other.

Come to find out he got a whole girlfriend, He got a whole family.

He got some whole other shit going on that he not being real with you about men do that type of stuff.

You ain't letting me know that shit off the rib.

Yeah, I don't know what I'm doing.

I'm in between bitches.

I'm in between bitches.

I don't know what I'm doing right now, I know what I'm doing.

Yeah, that's fine.

But then when a nigga accept that and match their energy.

See, I'm glad you said that right.

Now, we're having a real.

Yeah, I'm glad you said that right because just say Vincent right once, you let me once you match my energy.

Since I'm the leader and I categorize you, am I wrong?

I don't think you're wrong because I categorize niggas personally.

So that's but most women feel like a nigga wrong when they do that.

Right, I don't.

Think like I don't.

I see people for who they are, so like every nigga ain't meant to be your husband.

Facts.

So at the end of the day, if you show me who you are just as much as you could categorize me for how you feel like, I'm moving now where you already have in my mind, you a good time niggas.

I respect that now, that that real right now.

Like I like him, it don't take away from the fact because first of all, you're a Gemini, so I already know how y'all be what.

Y'all a great time a lot of the time.

But until y'all really fall in love or fall of that one girl, y'all just a good time.

Y'all look good because y'all be all because y'all be all over the place.

But I love you, niggas looking Gemini has a lot of love.

I agree everybody.

So I love to give so much that you want to give it to everybody.

I get it.

God sent me.

I can't fight him, you know what.

But I'm just saying I feel like women would do better if they categorize me in the same way that men categorize women.

Like because just because you're having a good time with him, and just because he fun and y'all vibe and y'all got good chemistry, that don't mean it's supposed to be your husband.

That don't mean it's supposed to be your baby daddy.

That might just be the dude that you're supposed to go out to eat weed, maybe go on a little trip with especially if you're young, have a good time, and then move on because he's already shown you that it's chaoti over there.

Why do you want to say he only don't go back because he's just gonna show you it could get worse.

I agree, now you cracking the cold.

You're cracking the cold.

But let me let me ask you something.

Not you, but have you seen women the typical Yeah, you know what I'm saying, because you're different.

Thank you.

Let's put that right there.

You're different.

You get it.

I can't go back and forth you because you get it.

You know what I'm saying.

Categorizy nigga the same way.

But what I'm saying most women don't want to be categorized because they knowing that that drops you down your respect level.

How So, though you know what I'm saying, it don't it don't.

I'm saying that's how they feel like I gotta play this good woman because I feel like every man want a good woman.

Some niggas like women that know ship, bro, we just we just having a good time.

I feel like you could be that type of woman, and that don't mean you gotta fuck everybody that's where we just be losing the plot though true because some girls think that that means, oh well, let me just go fuck with every nigga to show this nigga that like he don't matter.

You don't gotta fuck these niggas.

Just let him know, like, okay, I peep what's going on?

Like you feel like you're not really sure about me.

I'm not sure about you neither.

I'm weighing my options.

So if he asked me to go on to day, I'm gonna go.

That don't mean but drop you.

Once you go on a date with another man, you entertain another man, I can't look at you as a top prospect.

If we never had a conversation about exclusivity.

No, it don't matter.

I'm just speaking No, that's fair, that's fair because I have other men have said that to me.

It don't matter.

It's just like, okay, just how men think with some I ain't gonna speak for all men.

This is how some men think.

Yeah, get it right, this is how most men think.

Right, you're not for me until you show me you're for me, no matter what you say out your mouth.

So you showing me you for me is like basically a nigga respect of one more is she be like, yeah, damn, this shit allowed us here.

Niggas be like, you know what, I can't deal with you because this is not what I want.

You know what I'm saying, I can't deal with you because I can see you can't get give me what I want.

Niggas will respect you and then start lying to you to make you feel because he feels like you're for me because you ready to leave me alone for me being some bullshit.

But a woman that feel like, okay, you some bullshit on some bullshit.

Okay, I'm gonna keep you too, but I know what you is.

If that makes sense what I'm saying, So that takes away to trust because even though you might not be having sex with these dudes, if a dude got your mind, he got everything if he can get you on the line, I'm just keeping it one thing.

Oh no, No, I'm not making that face because you're wrong.

I make that face because I had that conversation with somebody y'all was dating reasons.

Okay, thank you, Yeah.

No, I'm agreeing with you.

Like men, men feel like they don't want nobody to have no type of access, seeing nothing but where I counter that and not in my situation because that was my men like we were in a relationship.

But where I counter that in situations where you're not in a relationship with somebody and y'all not exclusive, How you expect her to be moving like she exclusive when y'all haven't had a conversation about that, if that's what you want to.

Niggas feel like, if you're a woman, that's gonna be my woman for real?

You don't you're exclusive anyway.

I'm just I'm just telling you how niggas think me you ain't how you gonna say he ain't.

Most men are?

Men are not being exclusive if you all haven't had a conversation about exclusivity, because a lot of the time they not being exclusive when you have.

But you gotta know what exclusive meaning to me?

In though exclusive meaning to men some men is that you the one I'm gonna do all of that extra ship with you, the one on my gram.

I agree, you the one that can record me ship.

So you should feel I'm just telling you how about I know.

I get it.

I agree that is time men think.

But see for me and I think for most women when we think of exclusivity.

You're like, we're in a monogamous relationship, being in a monogamous relationship.

From Houston, name one from your dad, your cousin.

Yeah, how long?

Think how long this ship gonna take?

I mean, that's the point.

That's where I I fear you, Aids.

I fear you.

Because but I to agree.

That's what kind of scares me about marriage and stuff.

Sometimes it's because I don't know if I necessarily believe that a man can be one hundred percent faithful.

There's some, but you WoT them.

Yeah, there's some, But do you want that character.

The whole relationship?

Like never?

Because because that's another thing too.

I feel like you have relationships where men might have started off being on bullshie, but then they had an epiphany or something happening and they realized, Okay, these women really down for me.

She's solid, I'm gonna do right by her.

And then they change and he changes the trajectory of the relationship.

But but they're just changing the respect you.

Yeah, nigga still gonna do what he's gonna do.

You feel like regardless, So but you just say you know me and that are like.

But them women don't be liking them.

It's a cold world, corny niggas.

There's a cooling in man, that's fair.

It's most of the time when a woman feels like she figured you out, the game over.

If you want the lead nigga, he probably not gonna be how sally.

One, let me sit my drink.

Dang this shit fucked up.

Man, it is.

But that's why Mary scare me a little bit, because I want to be in the like I want that like I'm one of those girls.

I really want to believe in that fairy hill ending, Like I really want to believe that it's a man out there that I can meet and we're gonna be south madly in love, that it's just gonna be me and him, and we're gonna build these empire, these legacy together there and he's just gonna be me and him, and he's not gonna be worried about these other girls outside.

But let me say, let me say this.

But that's a little delusion to me.

He could be madly in love with you.

But that don't taking it away from you from whatever this guy does.

That don't got nothing to do with you.

I agree, I know it has nothing to do with me.

But I'm just like, but why are men that way?

Why is it so hard for y'all to just be with one girl?

If you love her so much, like your desire, your insatiable desire for other women is stronger than you wanting to lose this woman that you care so much about.

Like you okay, with the fact that you just want to experience something new for the night or for the time being, that's enough to make you lose the love of your lifetime.

If if that something like that can make her leave me, then she's not the love of my life.

Mm hmm.

Corellingly Martin.

Beyond would we don't know what she would have did if he would have still been here.

Eventually we see what jay Z Andbonce doing.

Yeah.

True, but my girl definitely talked about it.

She let the world who cares?

Not you talking?

You ain't going no, motherfucker.

Well, I just I think that this is the thing for me.

And I've said this before one time.

I don't necessarily know if I would just leave my men if I'm married over something like that.

But if it's a habit, you a habitual cheater, like oh you do this ship all the time?

Fuck?

No, absolutely not habitual cheating, habitually getting caught because he's gonna do it.

You're saying, like, is he messy once you get caught.

That's the only time your cheat is when you get caught.

That's what I don't know if I want to believe that, bank Like, I just be like, damn, it ain't.

No unreleased niggas that don't be cheating.

You God, I got drop of.

But it's some women that ain't letting them niggas go.

You mean to tell me you don't think it's not one nigga out there they just don't cheat.

Let me tell you something.

It is.

It's some niggas, but the women turn them cold.

This one I'm saying, Now, you got these niggas.

I know some guys like I don't want to call my boy name.

He the truth.

He ain't never cheat on this girl or nothing.

This nigga the truth.

He's a real good dude.

You know what I'm saying.

They broke up.

She said, I said, why y'all broke up?

Bro?

He said, because she said, I'm not a fixtion enough.

But he's never cheated on her.

He's never nothing.

He loves her.

He loves her to death, but she like he lack emotions or whatever.

It's always something.

Now she don't turn them cold.

So it's like, you know what, fuck the bitches, bro.

You gotta think every nigga that feels like fuck the bitching had his heart broke by a woman first.

When the nigga first jump out, the womd his first girlfriend, he wasn't cheating on.

Yeah, I saw the bitch kissing in the bathroom in junior school, in junior high.

Now you know what this shit gonna follow me for other man.

Damn you bitch.

It's the women.

It's the women.

It's just an innate thing in men, though.

Nah, I feel like men just have that urge like y'all just always down for the chase.

Y'all always want something new and exciting.

Like like you said, you could really love the fuck out of your woman.

You could be like, this is my woman.

I love her so much.

I know she the best thing that ever happened to me.

She holds the house down, she holds the kids down.

I know she's not gonna be out here moving reckless.

I know she ain't cheating on me, whatever the case may be.

But then you are to the club and you see this young fine girl, you just gonna want to know what's up with.

That, But you never know if she's cheating them.

You don't because thank you, bro, one thing about a woman.

When you find out she cheated, she don't want you no more women.

You'll never know she cheating.

So in the back of a nigga mine, once a nigga doesn't been cheating with somebody else's girl, he ain't gonna never trust women because once you show me how sneaking y'all can be, it's like, oh, man out for that.

It's a fucked up words.

It's twenty twenty five Instagram, like you got everybody's phone number.

Just think about it now you just dm wo yo O sener Goddamn nigga said, Nigga center center t send what it the toast?

What that means, bitch all I get to see it, what it means, she don't want to do it?

Whatever you get what I'm saying.

It's like life.

Just I don't I think like you said, man, if you can't get somebody to build an empire with, is know thing vought?

Because because trying to put the monogamy shit on it first build something that I don't want to risk.

I don't get it.

Damn about your pussing, you saying you love me, that's saying, now we build some shit that I ain't trying to tat this down.

I mean it BEI got fifty fift on one hundred million, two hundred million dollars.

I'm finna.

I'm gonna do enough to keep this.

But if all I'm losing this what you're saying you love me, and I'm not really losing.

Shit, Yeah for sure.

I mean that's how we preach that a lot on the show now, you know, like because I feel like when I was younger, I used to always be like, oh, you need to get you get you a man with money, like you need to day up.

But now I don't really say that on the show anymore.

Lex don't say that either, cause I feel like I hate I hate to be the one that says this, cause I know the girls is gonna be mad.

But like sometimes it is like, but what do you do?

What do you guys?

It's like, what am I losing?

Headache?

It's not enough, Like Kuchi itself ain't enough.

That ship.

You can get that ship before you get for sure, you get that ship.

I say that all the time.

It's going for nothing these days.

But you know a lot of women thinking that that ship is magical.

Most women think that they coochie is magical.

They do.

I feel like every woman feels that way.

Yeah, that's where I'd be like, if everybody cootch you good, who is the ones that got the trash?

Cuchi?

And then when.

When dudes be saying that, he'd be like, if everybody puts you good, who is the ones that got the trash?

I think it's all the same.

It's just how you feel about that person better.

Like if I if I love you, it's gonna be better.

M But if we just fucking it's just a fun, it's the same.

The emotions make it feel better, That makes sense.

I just yeah, I think you have to be able to offer more than it though.

That's so we don't live in them times anymore.

People love to talk about back in the day, men with one hundred percent providers.

I do agree with that, but also back in the day, let's chat about it.

Our grandmothers and our aunties and our even some of our parents.

They was okay with turning the blind eyes to the fact that our dads and our grandfathers had other families on the other side of town, they had other shit going on because them niggas.

Were solely providing.

Now we live in a day and age where like women are getting our own money too, So you have to realize, like, if you want that man, it's just gonna be a provider and you don't want to have to do anything.

It's a lot of bullshit that come with it.

A lot of bullshit come with that shit.

That's why I prefer to like me and my men can be with something together.

At this point, I agree with that because.

It unfortunately from what you don't say, he's still gonna cheat.

So what do it really matter?

I ain't saying it depends on what kind of nigga like, cause y'all don't be liking them kind of niggas.

What kind of niggas?

No, I like bussies.

I ain't gonna lie, you're like, what bussis?

That's what I'm saying.

And them niggas, you know, it's a thousand and one to them niggas it is.

But what about mean you the one I'm a boss tool, but me and don't y'all don't care about that.

I was talking to my friend about that earlier me And don't care how many degrees you got.

They don't care how much money you made.

They don't care about Alio accomplishments.

They don't care about.

Any of this shites.

No that shit.

Because a nigga feel a nigga.

Who they just want somebody who does.

Nah.

Yeah, you're about to.

Say, nah, nigga, just feel like at the end of the day, no matter what you got, baby, I can the nigga that I am.

I can go make a bitch have the same thing right now.

I sent her to school, make it pretty.

I can do whatever I want.

You can build.

A bitch can't build, no nigga.

If you do, you ain't gonna want.

You can build.

You can take a bitch from nothing and turn tomorrow standing beside you.

She different.

She matches my cadence.

Now, she's different.

Everything you have maybey put her right, like come up, baby, hey, wash up.

And you know what I'm saying.

Babies bitch, and you know, take them to the shop and bring out like a brand new car.

Yeah easy.

So that's what the value.

And it's fucked up for the women that are valuable.

The value of women just has dropped because it's like, bro, you can create one.

All I need a bitch to do is listen.

You gonna listen.

I got you.

But do you also feel like it's just because of the fact that.

Everybody used tow materially stick these days too, I kind of feel like that's where the value of women have dropped, because women will do anything just to be seen next to somebody who is somebody.

They don't even have to be getting nothing from me.

But it's just about the look, like the fact that I can even say I used to talk to these sneaker, I used to fuck with these nager so they be going for anything just to be in proximity.

And another thing because of materialism is because of like aesthetics and how shit looks.

Everybody cares about this.

That's a great social media.

That's a great point in knowing and by niggas knowing that, Like you just sat there and said, most of the time women be saying I ain't fucking who, ain't got them no motion, he ain't got going, he got no money, We ain't talking with them, right, So every nigga that I've been that nigga that didn't have no motion.

So once I got motion, bitch, I'm gonna fuck with you like a nigga that got motion, because you wouldn't fuck with me if I didn't have none.

I'm wrong.

Basically, you only fuck with me because I'm this nigga.

But I've have been this nigga before I knew how that felt when I wanted you.

I feel like men's money is women's looks.

It's the same thing.

Like you wouldn't fuck with me if I didn't look the way.

But all these women look good now not everybody, damn in Atlanta.

Eighty percent of the bitch you look good.

That's fair though you can't even like you remember back in the day, you.

Can't everybody look alike.

Everybody got the same Aestiti, it's no individual.

He'll finally got that.

You ain't heard a nigga say God damn and for so long, cause.

It's a goddamn around every corner.

Nigga ain't saying that ship't either, Like.

It's so funny.

It's so funny that you said that ship because even like looking back to when I moved to Atlanta, like I said, I've been here for a minute now, so like twenty sixteen, and when I moved here, I had my boobs done already.

But like when I was working in the club, it was like just me and maybe like one other girl that had like her boobs and her had work done and whatever.

Back then.

Now everybody got fake boobs, everybody got the butt shots, everybody got to bbl like, everybody got the same hair.

They sh look good.

Because at one point when it was first starting off a.

Little question, it's like, what do you do?

Bro?

You right?

Everybody do this?

Fear?

Eighty percent of women in Atlanta, Houston, New York, Miami, all of the big CDs.

Everybody look good.

That's what I'm saying.

It's like, man, what to do?

What do you do?

But that's where you have to But that's where personality and mindset and character and morals played should come into play.

And I feel like you don't for men because they just be looking at it like, oh well, all y'all look alike.

Y'all interchangeable.

But the heart in the mind and the soul ain't interchanged.

But how we gonna get past that when I'm already categorizing you?

But how you look by getting to know her and not putting her in their box.

I ain't got time getting to know you, babycause you ain't even fuck me if I was fucked up.

That's in my mind.

So I'm here for a good time only, baby, I only got time for all that because you look like a heartbreaker.

But you, but you wouldn't fuck with her if she didn't look how she looked.

That's what I'm saying.

I mean, no, how is it different?

Yes, you would not as an Okay, we're not talking about a man on the come up.

Were talking about one who already nigga will I don't say a long time.

Nigga whil man, the niggas, the niggas long nigga birth and bitches.

I can see up under that that dust the ship, bitch, you can eat something niggas like that, like I can see what you can be.

How many niggas don't built bitches though, augh, no real ship.

Just think about how many niggas now took bitches and got got got them all the ship that they need and nick she don't fuck with them no more like at one point in time in all of the day, the bitch, bitch firs day like I'm trying.

I'm trying to get I'm trying to get his done.

I'm trying to nigga do it.

This ain't even now.

It's another nigga.

Baby Mama, now you you built up for another niggah.

So niggas knowing and that ship don't call ship nigga like ship.

I just got the bit well she won't got now, h.

Mammy makeo.

I got the bitch of mommy Mako.

She looked good and now she's working out there.

This bitches, she look good.

It's easy a nigga will pull a bitch out to wind this drive through like hey, quit this.

I feel like that was back in the day before everybody started looking good.

Now, I feel like niggas want you to come as you are.

They want you to come build.

Some niggas do some niggas.

Some niggas don't care because them niggas already it's a project.

Just like you go to the go to the junkyard and by old school up in there.

Take this ship off the frame and rebuild it.

M h.

I want me to put a nice past.

I can see what this's gonna be.

There's still a sixty nine cheven.

She just needs a little buffy, that's it.

She just needed get put a hell cat molde in this bitch man for real.

But a woman ain't doing that.

You gotta come already ready.

You have to have manners.

You gotta be faithful, gotta be a provider, gotta be a.

Warrior like you got gotta be a warrior.

You gotta be you gotta be.

I'm trying.

A nigga got to be everything.

Jesus, Well, you better come as Jesus.

If not, he just don't do it for men.

Like my friend conversation, you just don't do good God.

I mean, he cool, but like I don't know, girl, it's something about him.

I just can't get with you for nothing.

This nigga, the nigga you prayed for, Like women gotta stop praying for ship.

And then don't want it, And.

No, they'll pray for a good man.

God will send you a good man.

He'd be like, he's just boring.

Though.

Now I will say this.

I was having a conversation with my homeboy the other day and he was telling me about some one of his friends or whatever, and I was like, but he just though corny.

He talk about what what?

What is corny?

That's fucked up?

Man, this man could be but now he corny.

I just don't want know corny me and all bad.

But you don't want the nigga who got them?

He the one like so so you want see I think.

That not corny to me, I don't care about societal standards when it comes to corny.

Me's like, you just can't be corny to me?

What's corny?

I don't want no dude, who be gossiping?

That's corny, that's that's that's feminine.

Yeah that I'm saying, like, that's corny to me?

Like why you always gossiping?

Why you always know?

Tea?

I don't like I'm saying, like in the physical form, what's corny out in the physical form?

Nothing really to be.

I heard women say, man, his shoes, like I just didn't like the shoes he had on?

Okay, why well yeah what what the show?

Shit fucked up?

But no, I was gonna say, but the shoes.

We can switch it up, like I could buy you some new shoes, Like we can get you together in the shoe department.

That's fine for me.

And this isn't corny a arthotics.

Well I love be treated, but no.

See this Okay, so this isn't this isn't corny.

It's just a non negotiable for me.

I'm a teeth girl.

I'm a mouth girl.

Like that's the first thing I'm gonna look at when I meet you.

So like if your teeth is fucked up, if you got a whole much of No, but it's not it's to me, it's not about that.

It's deeper than that.

If you have like plaque on your teeth, that means you don't flaws.

That means you never flaws because you ever because you let that ship build up.

Like, so you don't take care of your mouth.

Your mouth is literally the portal to your whole body.

In fact, it carries so much diseases and so much bacteria, like so many things because you don't take care of your mouth could go wrong in other areas for your body.

So that means you don't take care of your if you don't care about health and wellness, that's just very important to me.

And then also aesthetically, who wants to look at somebody and you talking to them and.

It's buttery but the same way.

But but this man got everything else cept teth, sept some teeth, everything else that you say on your list, tell you where you buy a nigga shoe.

You can show them how to brush your teeth.

No, I can't showed you.

I ain't hanging now your other girlfriend.

I just feel like I always think it so personally.

I think if a man has money, like as soon as you start getting some money, even if your teeth is fucked up, that should be the.

First thing you feel.

But we're just talking about that.

We're just talking about that.

Like but them kid will go home with my teeth, like funk around, not my teeth.

All I got money to do is pay the rent.

We finished sleep outside with new teeth in my.

Mouth, Like your teeth should be the first thing and like first thing that should be fixed.

Like I got bene years like three years ago, and I never even had like messed up teeth.

My normal teeth was nice.

I just didn't want to have to keep whiten in my teeth because it was like my gums are really sensitive.

So I was like my mouth, my shit fucked up?

Yeah you did used to have yeah, yeah.

I should have never got them shit pull my g had to get goddamn Rooke clails on all the ones at the top.

Yeah, six, My shit was fucked up.

See for me, I had braces when I was younger.

But then when I wouldn't wear my retainer, my gap because I used to have a gap, it used to try to come back whenever I wouldn't wear the retainer, and then my gums were sensitive when I would always get my teeth white, and so I'm like, I want something a little more permanent.

But either way, as soon as I started getting some money for real, I was like, you know what, I'm about to go get veneers.

I'm about to invest in my smile, in my teeth.

That should be the number one thing you do.

So if you walk around and you got everything that I need.

But you ain't got your teeth fixed.

But you got the money, get my teeth fixed.

No, you got the money, We got the money, Show me why to get.

My teef You didn't care enough?

Neither do I.

It's your teeth show team.

We're trying to be a team.

We bank.

We talk about first encounter.

We talking about I meet you a Linx walking through the mall.

You're like, Hey, what's up?

You're trying to talk to me, and I first thing I see is your mouth while we're talking.

No, we're not dealing in us.

Actually we can't even get today, damn, because nine times out of ten, I'm not even believing you got what you say you got.

It's another one, though, what's the other one?

Come on?

Keep going teeth next.

One for me?

Honestly, it's it's just it's teeth.

It's hygiene.

Hygiene is important too, So.

The man got good tea, good hygiene.

I don't mind, hey, because I'm short myself, like I'm okay, but being shorter than me.

Leg you are legal magie.

If you're shorten than me, you're legally imigie.

Niggas just ain't got no.

I don't know if I could, you know, I mean, we would have a handicap stickle though it's work, y'all.

Might be some parks to it, now that we think about it, y'all.

Anywhere we go, I mean, I don't know.

That don't sound too shabby.

Actually, but I'm five too, so anybody shorter than me is you know, pretty short.

I just don't understand.

I don't understand me personally.

I'm not trying to be fun.

I just don't understand what satisfies a woman.

Like be more specific.

Okay, if you get a guy that checks off all those boxes, well not you, We're gonna take it.

We're gonna unpersonalize this.

Have you ever met a friend.

Have you ever had a friend and you'd be like, it's a good dude, but she always got something else to say.

Yeah.

I've had friends who have dated really good guys and then it's been things like communication and stuff like that basically.

But I don't think that though at the same time, because I think that if that's something that's important to you, like if you want to if you know for a fact that's you're the type of woman where you need to talk to your man every day, and you talking to these men and he don't hit you up every day, or he don't check in on you at least once today.

Nobody's saying, y'all got to stay on the phone all day, but if he don't check in with you at least once today, and that's what you need to feel secure in the relationship.

I don't think that's wrong.

Everybody has different non negotiables, Like for me personally, if I know my man is busy.

We don't have to necessarily talk, but like, you can't think you my nigga, You ain't gonna text me all day.

You better check in and be like, hey, what's up?

So what a compromise is coming in?

Like what part?

What?

Let me ask you some what are women willing to be?

Like?

Well, you know what, I know, he ain't perfectly not good, So I'm gonna deal with this.

I think a lot of women have a hard time drawing the line between compromising and sediling, because when do it get more to sediling more than compromising.

About your pot you cooking.

I ain't gonna lie you cooking cooks.

A little bit.

I guess that's why I do.

This, because you shifting me basically the question I'm asking you, shifting them back in a perfect way.

What I'm saying is let me break this, slow this ship down, and break it down.

What I'm saying is, have you ever met a woman that just couldn't be satisfied?

Yeah?

Yeah, I think they still single.

I'm saying that was in a relationship though, like and you was like, I don't know, girl, like that nigga was a good nigga.

Well, yeah, you was in a relationship and now you single.

Like I feel like we all have a grandmother somebody in our family.

We all have somebody like that who would never be satisfied.

Matter where you think that come from, always thinking something better out there.

Damn.

I think it's been that way for a long time.

Like people have.

You've always had people who thought like I can always do better.

It's always something better until reality set in and you seventy.

But I know some seventy years old, we were just talking about that.

Today.

My mama Jed divorced the Hud.

I'm like, you devoy the man for he's just like, fuck that.

But how many times have do you mind me asking how many times have she been married?

What one?

Oh?

Just to him and she just so they were married for a really she married a.

Nigga about five six years ago.

Say I got married, okay, mom, straight bulls.

She's like, man, fuck that nigga.

Man, Because I feel.

Like you do have the women out there who you know they've been married like five six times.

They just feel like I love him and when he served his purpose and he's done, it's done.

I'm leaving and I'm gonna move on to the next person.

I think that's a level of unsatisfaction too, though, because I think when you meet the right person, you do have to compromise.

You gotta try to make it worse.

What's the right person for you?

I don't know if I met them.

I dated one person where I feel like we couldn't possibly be together.

But we both just have things that we need to work on.

But for me, it's somebody.

Who's a good communicator, Somebody who is honest and transparent, Somebody that's affectionate, somebody that ain't cheat, somebody that is ambacious, god fearing, has.

A good relationship with his family, respectful.

I don't know.

I got a lot of things on.

At least we'll be seeing you all day.

And have you ever seen a guy like that before?

No, not with all of them, but but the god the last guy in our dady.

He came close.

So what was the problem with that?

Close?

Is good?

Man?

It's like throwing horses in grenade.

That shit count.

Yeah.

I just think we look at the world different sometimes, and I don't know if you can always make it work when y'all look at the world different, because it's a mindset thing you know you, where is it where like, ohay, I love this person, but I don't want to change them because if I change you, then you not who you are.

So then it's like, well, maybe we just not compatible because we don't really see things the same or do you do you even think that that's important because some people don't think that it's important to see the world the same when you're two people that's trying to come together and be a U need.

No, I think you gotta be like minded to even be aligned, like if you if you're dealing with a person that y'all always disagree on some y'all ops.

And it wasn't an always thing, but it was sometimes on important things.

But you know, on the tar is always right though we're not.

We like to believe it though.

He answer word, but I can't believe.

You with a Taurus.

That's crazy.

Geminis and taurusis no.

You know what we were getting along?

We do.

We understand each other a little bit when we both I feel like I feel like we both I feel like.

We're both the villains, both the villains.

I take that.

It's really yeah, you know, it's certain signs that people just don't like, I feel like people don't like Gemini's, people don't like stagritarycies, people don't like taurisis and scorpios, scorpios and leos Leo's too.

Yeah, but I think that's because it's unfiltered.

Basically, like whatever we say, we said, if how it comes off, it ain't really no apologizing about it, Like, bro, that just what it is.

I don't know how else to tell you.

No, Well, nigga fuck with nigga regular teeth.

I don't nobody else to say that.

Yeah, Hey, answer word with a word for word, Come to your mama, sale word and you're ready.

Healing therapy, history, future.

Obsession, obsession, scary, that's a little scary.

Growth, transparency, that over sandy power power, hm hmmm.

I feel like him.

I don't even know what word I want to say today.

It's a double edged sword.

That's not one word, but.

Pre nup cool, circumstantial.

You know, nah, thank you.

Hustle, grind, secrets, protection, lies, Why y'all, I think that you know what's crazy?

Crazy enough?

I think that's protection too.

Sometimes I funk with that.

I funk with that.

Yeah, forgiveness being.

Humbling yourselves privacy, non negotiable, pleasure that's non negotiable too.

Frustration.

Mm hmm, I feel like frustration.

It's like I can't think of one word.

You care too much.

Situationships, hell, no, divoice, inevitable.

Standards, you gotta have them, expectations, necessary, expectations, problematic, poor minds.

The ship Yeah, the Bits podcast period don't play with us.

So what's next?

What's next with you?

So?

I have a few different things going on.

So your Tribal Queens is out right now on bz Herd.

Like I said, you can watch it on BT dot com, you can watch it on Hulu, you can watch it.

On YouTube TV felo.

Of course, you could check out Poor Minds every Friday seven pm.

It's p o U are underscore in my nds on all platforms.

I'm probably gonna end up doing some more stuff in media really soon.

And I also have my own cosmetics brand, mus Beauty Collections dot com.

I have lip glosses, lip liners, Matt Lick with lipsticks, jelly blushes is all cruelty free.

I just came out with mascara and eyeliner recently.

I actually have the Metscira on right now, so yeah, I'm expanding that brand as well.

I'm probably gonna get into skincare really soon, and make sure you follow my YouTube channel, Drey and the Call with three E's.

I drop weekly blogs now I have a lot going on.

So cruelty free.

Cruelty free means vegan.

Okay, yeah, okay, so like it ain't been tested on animals.

Now, it hasn't been tested on all right?

I love that, all right?

Book of the Week?

You say what you say?

You be reading a lot of books, right what's your favorite one?

Right now?

I'm reading Let Them?

Let Them?

What it's about.

It's basically just about being okay with letting people do what they want to do as human beings, Like I think a lot of the time, we always feel the need to control everything.

It needs so much freedom in letting go of control and just letting people be who they are, because if you let people be who they are, then you will realize maybe this is a person that's okay, that I'm okay with them being in my life, or maybe I'm not.

But I think when you try to get people to conform and try to get them to be who you want them to be, then do not letting them freely be themselves.

So it's like, would you have them in your life if you weren't trying to influence the outcome?

Yeah, you're getting a fake person.

You're a fake person if you don't let they want to do.

They always say, let a motherfucker do what they want to do.

So you see exactly what they want to do.

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