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The Rita Panahi Show | 30 September

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On scoring lives Ostrodia.

This is the Wider Paney Show.

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Good evening, and welcome to the Rita Panehy Show.

Coming up tonight, we examined the manifestly inadequate sentence handed to a sexual predator who is transitioning and will be housed in a female prison.

The panel will weigh in on that and the day's other top headlines.

Victoria sees a significant surge in carjackings as the crime crisis deepens.

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I'll speak to Karlie Douglas about that.

Shortly.

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Kosha Gator will have the latest from the US, including President Trump's big win against Google, and later in the hour, Alex Stein will explain why the NFL has picked a painfully woke artist most of their fans have never heard of to perform at the Super Bowl.

And Left Is Losing It features Rose o'donald doing whatever this.

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Is samdation.

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But First.

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Women's groups have expressed outrage over the extraordinary lenient sentence given to a transgender father who sexually abused his five year old daughter.

The sex offender now calling himself Hillary Maloney, took thirteen videos and sixty four images of himself sexually abusing his daughter across a one month period.

After agreeing to engage in the vile acts for the sexual gratification of American pedophile Sam Booth, he.

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Called his master.

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Victorian County called Judge Nola Carapana Giotis gave Maloney a minimum jail term of just two and a half years, ruling that because he was transitioning to becoming a woman a trans woman, his moral culpability was reduced.

Meanwhile, the maximum jail sentence for that type of crime is twenty five years.

Victorian primagus Into Alan is already under fire for ignoring police from women's groups to have Maloney moved from the female prison he's currently being held into a men's one where he belongs, and she is facing renewed demands to review Victoria's sentencing policies.

Women's rights active ast Sal Grover told The Australian newspaper, if you set the precedent that these horrible people could basically get lighter sentences by making this claim, you've created the loophole for them.

And Women's Forum Australia Chief executive Rachel Wong said it is profoundly wrong that such reasoning could be used to excuse or soften accountability for one of the gravest crimes imaginable, the sexual abuse of one's own child.

That's bringing the panel joining me now for more on this is News Corps Senior writer Patrick Carlyon and research fellow at the Institute of Public Affairs Colleen Harken.

Patrick, everything I've described in this story speaks of a deeply seek society talking about the crime itself absolutely sickening.

But what's happened since this manifestly inadequate sentence and the fact that we've got this male sexual predator housed in a woman's prison.

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Yes, Look, this is something we've been writing about for years in the papers.

Men or people who identify as women who are biologically male, who are sex offenders have been put in women prisons, which is terrifying for the other women prisoners for lots of really obvious reasons.

Now, the idea that this offender in this case got two and a half years because this person was confused about their agenda, it absolutely does not pass any common sense test on any level, does it?

And it really introduces a really important issue.

Are we going to have loopholes and we're going to have sex offenders who are male, saying I'm confused about agenda and getting shorter sentences because of it.

Speaker 2

Getting shorter sentences Colleen, and also the prospect of being housed.

Speaker 3

In a women's prison, which would be.

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Far more palatable for any male prisoner, but particularly if you've got someone who's a sexual predator.

They've got a captive population there.

And these women in prison often have histories where they've been victims of violence.

Speaker 3

Victims of sexual abuse themselves, and to have someone like that house with them, I mean about their human rights.

Speaker 6

Yeah, there's a high percentage of women in prison who have been victims of sexual abuse themselves, and that's part of their journey is to have the ended up there to be housed with somebody who's done that to someone else.

There is nothing more henious than sexual abuse of a child of five year oldch other.

There's nobody more in need of protection, and a two and a half few sentence on this is just so manifestly inadequate.

The other thing that is to be noted is that it doesn't matter whether it's a male or a female who has done this.

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The sentence is just inadequate.

Speaker 6

And the judges comment that they thought that the guy was the transitioning person, wouldn't do it again unless it was under some duress from a male Actually, definitionally means that they're not really sure that it wouldn't happen again.

Yes, there's just no recognition of the serious, the absolute disgracefulness of the crime and the sentence things that they're put with it.

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Never mind whether they think it's going to happen again or not, it's already happened.

How about punishing the offense.

It shouldn't just be about rehabilitation or the chances of reoffending, what about actually punishing the offense.

And that seems to have been lost in the criminal justice process, where offenders' rights seem to be at the forefront the correct of the people in that bureaucracy.

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Especially when you see it's a two and a half year sentence that could have had a maximum of twenty five years.

It's ten percent of what was available to astonishing.

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Now let's move on to the Australian Services Union slamming the into Alan government over the appointment of Mary Beech City Council CEO Kathy Henderson.

She's going to become the new boss of work safe and mere accusations that while she was with the council she breached workplace safety protocols and failed to protect staff.

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Following a drag story time event.

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Of course, it was an Australian Services Union Victorian Branch Secretary Tash Walks said, the very organization she is now to lead found that she.

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Had failed to adhere to the OHS.

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Act and had to step in to override her and protect the interests of her own staff.

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Colleena.

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This council we speak about at a fair bit on this program.

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It's one of the worst.

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Mary Beeck counsel and Miss Anderson was there and she signed off on a half a million dollar name change.

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Used to be called Morland Council.

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No one seemed to have a problem with that until the council decided that was deeply racist.

You had some association with a Jamaican slave estate and they changed the name.

It's almost like a comedy sketch, if only nobody's laughing.

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This is sort of the woke of the woke, rewarding the woke.

These roles should be about competence and independence and obviously this is the Allen government rewarding one of their own.

As you said, she's been involved in the millions of dollars spent on a name change toward end and for what purpose really, And it's just Victoria.

It is an example of Victoria rotting from the inside.

It doesn't matter whether you're competent or independent.

It's the Allen government looking after their own.

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And if I remember correctly, Mary Beck was in the news just recently because they sacked a street sweeper for questioning the merits of having these lengthy welcome to countries acknowledgment of countries before every every meeting.

And again the court found that he was unfairly dismissed.

So this is not a council that's particularly well run from what I can see, Patrick, But this is a big role.

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We're talking about the head of work say that.

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And there are all sorts of issues with work Safe itself in this state.

Speaker 5

Absolutely, the vehements of the criticism, I think she was described as being unfit for the role and not being work safe, not being a place for her really struck me.

I sort of wonder as a journalist, is there more to this story?

Is there more that we don't know because the evidence presented to sort of make those comments.

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Wasn't that strong?

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Yes?

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And I think I suspect.

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That's interesting there is.

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I mean, I do wonder whether there's some sort of Labor Party union factional wards that were not fully across.

But we're happy to hear from miss Henderson if she wants to come on the program and put her side forward.

Now let's talk about the Sydney Morning Herald's report on the cost of Sydney's largest metro rail line project, the Sydney Metro West.

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It's said to blow out but at least two.

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Billion dollars due to the skyrocketing price of building underground train stations, and there's been all sorts of delays to awarding major contracts.

That's also caused this blowout in the budget.

Patrick, the min's Labor government was wavering on this big project.

Can labor governments anywhere deliver projects on time and on budget?

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Well?

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As a Victorian, as Paul Keating would say, this is a beautiful set of numbers.

You look at the Northeast wink down here.

It was originally going to cost ten billion dollars and it was sixteen billion dollars.

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Now it's twenty six million.

Dollars.

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That's assuming they ever finish it.

On the drive through there virtually every day.

No, these things don't get done by labor governments.

And it's interesting look in New South Wales there complaining about the blowouts.

But these blowouts are nothing like we see down here.

You look at the suburban rail loop.

We just had our premier go to China.

You know, the sort of cap in hand, sort of begging for drills and the investment in something that the federal government refuses to invest in.

Yes, and certainly a pattern.

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Yeah, Colleen, two billion is nothing really when you look at the Victorian blowouts.

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In these projects.

So we could go through the long list.

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There's the reason why Victoria has got the biggest debt of any state.

Speaker 6

Yeah, but isn't that part of the problem that we laugh and we say too big?

And we just got washed away because we're getting so used to these overruns and people who don't seem to understand how to do a project management, a business case and make sure that budge that projects are delivered on time and in budget.

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We do.

Speaker 6

We just now we wash away billions of dollars being wasted and because we can't see our way out of it.

We can't see people who are competent enough.

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To do these jobs.

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You know, Victoria and the Southern Metro Rail Loop or whatever, the SLR, whatever it's called.

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Yes, you know that is in a.

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Very similar situation, no business case.

Billions of dollars are being spent and no one has oversight into actually managing the project properly.

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And it's incredible that they go over budgets so much because they put a lot of fat in it when they put it together us they still.

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Manage to go over budget.

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Now, let's go to an issue that I love discussing on this program.

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JK.

Rowling.

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She may be off the left, but when it comes to the issue of women's rights, she's very sound, very bold and brave.

And the Harry Potter author has now put Emma Watson in her place.

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She played Hermione Granger.

Actress.

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Emma Watson said that while she disagrees with JK.

Rowling's views on transgenderism, she still appreciates.

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Her contributions to her career.

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Good of you, Emma to say that Jack Rowling had quite a lengthy responses as part of it.

She said, like other people who've never experienced adult life uncushioned by wealth and fame.

Emma has so little experience of real life.

She's ignorant of how ignorant she is.

I wasn't in a multi millionaire at fourteen.

I lived in poverty while writing the book that made Emma famous.

I therefore understand from my own life experience what the trashing of women's rights in which Emma has so enthusiastically participated means to women and girls without her privilege.

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Ouch.

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That is fantastic, Patrick, I've got to say, beautifully written, as she also accused Emma Watson of pouring petrol on the flames of abuse she was personally suffering defending women's rights.

That's just beautiful.

That is I always want to read it again.

And she did it so.

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Well articulate, isn't it.

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And she makes that point when Emma Watson spoke out a few years ago that actually created major dramas in her own life.

Yet security issues, getting death threats, all sorts of things.

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Look.

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As a Harry Potter fan, it makes me sad that two of the most important people who contributed to something so wonderful are fighting publicly about this.

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But that's a massive takedown it's very articulate.

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It's beautifully put and I think she's been waiting to do this now that Emma's a young woman, She's not, by no means a child.

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She's just graduated from university.

She's been working industry for a long time.

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And it's interesting that Emma Watson's kind of being a little bit more conciliatory towards J.

K Rowling because the mood has changed.

A few years ago, she felt very comfortable putting the boots into the woman who made her famous.

But now I guess she can see that the narrative has shifted, the cultures shifted.

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Yeah, I wonder how much of this is just actually self serving by Emma Watson's part, because, as you say, for several years, she was incredibly ungrateful and uncollen about jk Rowling, and to Patrick's point, J k Rowling had death threats from the things that were being sid.

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Around daily, correct daily.

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And now that the trans movement is maybe not quite so popular, I do wonder whether Emma Watson is just sort of doing it to position herself a little bit differently.

Jk Rowling said that just because she's created a character, Emma Watson doesn't have to agree with him that she said for the entire life.

She's entitled to her view and to publicly express with you, But so is JK.

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Rowling.

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That's all power to her for doing it.

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And I think she sees a fair bit of cowardice, and the way she's kind of wavering on this issue I think proves that cowardice.

Because if you were as strong as you were on it a few years ago, then why have you shift your position?

Or are you just sort of reading the room and doing whatever the culture is telling you to do?

Now, before you two go, I've got to get your opinion.

This is the sort of debates that get people going.

Let's have a look at this mid flight argument over seat space and see where you two stand on this.

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Well, not a lot of room here, right, I know I paid for the sheep too.

I paid for the seat as loud right.

So, but would you think you'd want to be share the arm rush?

Yes, we're not sharing the US right now?

Right now, you were using the rt resting position.

I'll look you to get out.

I don't even own the arm rush.

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I'm not on the harm restic though.

Speaker 11

Actually what no, I'm not Okay, I'm sorry.

Speaker 7

I guess my fats are on their.

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Own massage, So sorry, So sir, how do you think I should tampus part?

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Well, there's a way you can solve it, Patrick.

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If your body mass extends to two seats, then you pay for two seats.

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The selfishness here in my mind is out of control.

Of course, it's not pleasant.

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And it's not a conversation anybody would want to have.

But surely, if you know an airline seat is going to be too small for you and you're going to be spilling out to the neighboring seat you travel less, you pay for two seats.

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Do we need bigger seats?

Do we need to pay more?

No?

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Because then I'm paying more and I could fit into the seat.

Thank you.

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Wating to overwake people fat shame one another is always.

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Going because the other guy, the bigger one, also fat shame the smaller one is that you know you're no waif either.

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Where do you sit on this, Belleen?

Speaker 6

No, I disagree with Patrick.

I also fit into one suit and shouldn't have to pay for two.

But it is part of this kind of scenario where there's this fat liberation movement and even using words like fat shaming.

We've kind of moved into this situation of celebrating obesity, and we shouldn't.

I mean, we should actually be kind to these people and tell them the truth and so that if you are overweight it is in your best interest to lose weight.

There are associated health problems with it, and we're not doing anyone in any favors pretending that having to take two seats is an okay thing.

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And the body positivity movement, Patrick, I've had quite a few doctors comment on how awkward it is now to give honest advice to their patients because yeah, they're accused of fat shaming instead of telling them the obvious, I would have thought.

Colleen Harkin, Patrick carlyon body positivity.

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Advocas, thank you for time.

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Tonight now to Victoria's worsening crime crisis, and fresh figures have revealed that carjackings are also on the rise.

What used to be a fairly rare occurrence is now happening nine times a week.

There were four hundred and eighty seven car jackings or attempted carjackings in the year to March.

That's that thirty six percent increase on the year before.

And out of those four hundred and eighty seven incidents, a staggering two hundred and three were aggravated, meaning the perpetrator was armed, and police intelligence shows seventy percent of the offenders were aged under twenty five, with most belief to be teenagers.

Let's bring in Herald Sun reporter Karlie Douglas Carley.

This is a terrifying crime for the victim, particularly if it is aggravated.

Do we know why there's been such a steep increase in these sorts of offenses.

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I think if we go back to twenty twenty three, it's really kind of when things kicked off.

So at the time Daniel Andrews just before he's resigned his weekend bail laws and that's reducing well, he stripped back to offenses.

One of them was breaching bail and that was because an Indigenous woman had died in custody.

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There was an investigation.

They found that these laws were discriminatory towards Aboriginal people.

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But it really opened the floodgates and it meant that all of these people, especially young offenders, could essentially get away with continuing to commit these violent offenses.

Speaker 10

That was also mixed though with this emergence of the.

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Tobacco wars after COVID, which meant that you know, these these crime gangs were recruiting these children or these teenagers to go and fire bomb these tobacco stores, paying them a couple of hundred bucks to do so, and it really got them entrenched into our crime world here in Victoria.

Also the notoriety on social media, I mean COVID really spurred that on.

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So these kids, these teenagers are recruited in part because the criminals know the commit justice system is going to be pretty soft with them, and it's a cheap way of doing business.

Speaker 10

Oh absolutely, yes, exactly.

Speaker 12

I mean, like I say, a few hundred bucks go and light up a tobacco store and really they've been untraced.

Speaker 10

You know, we've had one hundred and twenty.

Speaker 12

Ish more than that tobacco store fire bombings and they get away with it.

Speaker 3

They get away with it.

Speaker 2

That's the incentivized and it happens.

Now, let's talk about something that happened yesterday again at terrifying scenes outside of Burke Street.

More police engaged in an eleven kilometer chase from Doncaster to Melbourne CBD as they pursued a stolen BMW.

A woman was struck by the car and taken to hospital.

Witnesses were left traumatized, and one telling the Herald's sign.

The offenders were covered in black clothing and had their faces covered.

Four teenage boys have been charged over the incident, including a seventeen year old who has bailed to appear before a children's court at a later day.

Carli, what more can you tell me about what happened here?

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From the scenes.

I've looked at it.

Speaker 2

That's pretty lucky nobody was more seriously hurt or killed.

Speaker 10

It's terrifying.

Speaker 12

I mean, we've got these kids driving down Burke Street in this car and like you say, eleven clometer journey, so the police are a bit slow to actually get to them.

I've got families out in the middle of school holidays exactly shopping.

Speaker 10

You know, obviously you're very busy shopping.

Precinct.

It is very lucky that no one.

Speaker 13

Else was hurt.

Speaker 2

And what they're going to now look at more ballards around the CBDs is the solution there?

Speaker 12

Well, that's what people have raised.

I don't think the government is actually looking at that.

Speaker 10

The oppositions have.

Speaker 12

Said that infrastructure isn't the answer.

They're obviously looking at even tougher ail laws.

One of the kids that was picked up on Burke Street actually was on bailer at the time.

Speaker 10

Okay, he was bailed last week.

Speaker 12

There are new bail laws though that are actually coming in today which will create an uplift for some of those offenses.

You were talking about carjackings, aggravated burglaries, so.

Speaker 3

Maybe we will be seeing type fingers crossed.

Speaker 2

It actually has an impact because so many of the measures, including their Maschetti beans, really haven't done anything meaningful to curb these crimes.

Before you go, yesterday we covered an exclusive story you had in the Herald Sun where there was a proposal to introduce so called African courts.

This was something that was considered designed to be similar to the Kori courts to help young African Australian offenders experience what's called cultural restorative justice.

Speaker 3

Karlie, tell me about this philosophy and how much community support doesn't have I I mean we talk about the African community.

It's not just one community.

Speaker 2

There's people from different countries with entirely different worldviews.

Speaker 12

Yeah, and that's exactly the concern that's been brought up by these leaders.

They say, if we were to model a sort of African court of the Corry Court, we would have to have so many different elders and community leaders from all the different African communities.

Speaker 10

Would that work?

Maybe not.

Speaker 12

The idea though, was formed as part of this roundtable.

This group had been given.

It was a group of academics, lawyer.

Speaker 2

Rising Ly academics and lawyers coming up with stupid ideas well.

Speaker 3

I mean, I just think it is madness to even consider it.

It's the complete opposite direction to where we should be going, where we hold people accountable for their actions instead of engaging in cultural restorative justice.

Goodness.

Meet Karlie Douglas is always a pleasure.

Thank you so much for your time.

Speaker 2

Thank you Still to cat left is Losing Ed plus the latest from the US, including President Trump's big win against Google.

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Kosher Gator has the details.

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You're watching the Reader Panekey Show, and it's time for Lefty is Losing It.

Let's check in on actor and simpleton Mark Ruffalo, who is dazed and confused.

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He's not coping in Trump's America.

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I don't understand what's happening.

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Right now.

Speaker 9

My industry doesn't understand what's happening right now.

But what they do understand is our freedom of speech is being attacked.

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Another absolute hypocrite who suddenly cares about free speech.

They were cheering on their ideological opponents being silenced, being canceled and d platforms.

Speaker 3

Give me a break.

Speaker 2

Now, let's go to lefty losing at regular Rosio Donald who, despite fleeing to Ireland to escape Trump's America, does nothing but talk and think and obsess about Donald Trump.

Even her therapist is wondering why she's so obsessed.

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What he's done yet, hasn't even hit us yet, and if he's not stopped now, we have lost our country.

And I don't know, Nicole, how it is that some people cannot see it.

My therapist said, why are you so upset?

And I said to her, why are you not?

Speaker 15

Yeah, yeah, I have that conversation too, because the gas lighting that I think you're alluding to, if you're a thoughtful, informed person, you do stop and say, well, maybe.

Speaker 7

It is me.

Speaker 2

Yes.

Even her therapist thinks she needs to find some perspective, but not MSNBC anchor Nicole Wallace, who is matching Rosie in the loopy stakes.

The only gas lighting happening there, Nicole, is that you're convincing yourself that you're thoughtful and informed.

But at least when Nicole and Rosie are sharing their paranoid delusions, they're not producing content like this.

Speaker 3

Whatever this is.

Speaker 4

Said usual China Lee Guy, the majimdation.

Speaker 2

You know, the Left suffer from the delusion that if they repeat a lie often enough and they really really want it to be true, then it is.

We've heard them repeat the same dangerous lies about Donald Trump for years, from the Russian collusion hoax to the Fine People hoax.

Now there is another lie being put forward by failed Vice president and failed presidential candidate Kamala Harris.

She keeps saying this despite it being verifiably false, and.

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It ended up being the closest presidential election in the twenty first century.

Speaker 2

The closest presidential election in the twenty first century.

An out and out lie, Kamala She lost by eight huge margin.

She not only lost the electoral College by a huge margin, she lost every swing state.

Speaker 3

She also lost the popular vote.

Speaker 2

Trump was the first Republican to win the popular vote in twenty years, but did Rachel Matter correct that obvious lie.

Speaker 3

Well, of course not, and Kamala was off to the view to repeat that same lie.

Speaker 13

It is the closest presidential race in the twenty first century in terms of the outcome.

Speaker 2

Yes, the idiot view crowd are going to clap along like trained seals to anything.

But there were six highly paid view co hosts on the desk with Kamala.

Not one of them corrected that outrageous lie, and, emboldened by her bold face lies being accepted as gospel, Kamala repeated that line at her old college.

Speaker 3

Here she is at Howard University.

Speaker 13

Bosist election for president of the United States in the twenty first century.

Speaker 7

Yeah, I know that's right.

Speaker 1

Howard Grad did that here, Howard Grad.

Speaker 2

Why is it that Kamala looks like she arrived straight from happy hour to that event.

No academics there, no students, corrected that lie.

Speaker 3

So let's get a hot take on Kamala from her successor Jdie Vance.

Speaker 16

Because the more people know about Kamala Harris, the more they realize there's no substance there.

I mean, agree or disagree with Barack Obama or Bill Clinton.

They actually had substance.

They could actually articulate a viewpoint.

I listened to Kamala Harris for ninety seconds, and I actually feel like I've gotten dumber in the process.

Speaker 3

And I have no idea what she actually believes.

Speaker 2

Now to the deplorable elan Omar, who was doubling down on her abuse against Charlie Kirk last week, she had pledge to say, including this on CNN.

Speaker 3

That should be in the dust pen of history.

Speaker 17

And we should hopefully move on and forget the heat that he spewed every single day.

Speaker 2

Ask to apologize for those comments and other similarly unhinged and ugly commentary.

Speaker 3

This is what the anti American Democrat congresswoman had to say this time.

She's with the awful Don Lemon.

Speaker 17

I have nothing that apologized for.

You know it is It is a tragedy that Charlie Kirk was killed in that way.

I feel for his widow and his children.

They will have to live with that for the rest.

Speaker 9

Of their lives.

Speaker 3

But there is no legacy to honor.

Speaker 17

It was a legacy filled with bigotry, hatred, and white supremacy.

And as a black woman and as a Muslim in this country, I refuse these crazy people can do whatever they want to do.

But I am not going to be bullied into complacency, into you know, dishonoring who I am and what I stand for.

Speaker 2

Yes, she's not going to be bullied into decency or honesty.

She's going to remain a race baiting radical doing harm to the country that gave her sanctuary.

Let's bring in Sky News contributor Kosher geta Kosher Elanoma is going to find out the hard way that Charlie Kirk's legacy is far greater, far more consequential than anything she or her squad members are going to be achieving.

Speaker 1

I think she already knows that rita on some level, but she is unashamed, unabashed telling us exactly who she is in some strange upside down where you almost have to admire it because she's just tripling down, quadrupling down in that belief I think, you know, cynically, in the narrow world of just her retaining her seat as long as she continues to do that, and the demographics where she lives are favorable to that.

And once you become an incumbent, it does get harder and harder to be unseated, though it certainly is happening more and more.

Unless and until that happens, I would say that she doesn't care and she's going to continue to be true to her belief system with the no shame whatsoever.

The only good news I would offer is that broadly speaking, she and her kind, whether's Jimmy Kimmel, whether it's everyone else, they are losing right now.

They're losing electorally, they're losing in the court, they're losing culturally, and that is something, but they haven't lost.

And while they're losing, but they haven't lost.

This is actually a dangerous time and you're going to see much more I think vicious vitriol and even violence coming out, unfortunately, and that's why the right really has to fight harder against people like that.

Speaker 2

Absolutely, you mentioned Jimmy Kimmel, We've had the likes of him straight out lie about the politics of Charlie Cook's alleged assassin.

Now we have John carl On Abas climbing.

Speaker 3

The murder wasn't even.

Speaker 18

Political, been senselessly celebrated by some a small minority who didn't like what Kirk stood for and thought it was somehow therefore justified celebrating or excusing violence is abhorrent.

The murder of Charlie Kirk was not a political act.

It was a gruesome crime.

Speaker 2

Yes, it was a gruesome crime, but it was also clearly political kosher.

The motivation for the murder is not really in dispute at this point.

We have the words of the alleged assassin.

Why do we still have elements of the media determined to muddy the waters here?

Speaker 1

You know, I think we know why that they are losing, as we just said, on every dimension, and this is the last thing that they have to hang on to, which is, as you said in earlier segment, keep lying enough times and repeat the lie enough times, and some portion of the country and the world, unfortunately will believe it because we are in information warfare along with other types of warfare, and that's why they do it.

But I do go back to that silver lining that they are losing.

Ratings are down.

Everything that Charlie Kirk said, all of his videos and memorial service, all of that have hundreds of millions and even aggregated up to billion views, way more than Jonathan carl will ever see or the entire network.

And so that's the good news that you're in this information warfare, and they are not winning.

But I think they're going to go down and keep repeating these types of comments to the bitter end.

Speaker 2

And you look at Turning Point, USA, the demand they've had for new chapters is astonishing.

If they can follow through with that and establish those chapters throughout the country, the impact is so much more profound than perhaps even Charlie.

Speaker 3

Ever dreamed of.

Speaker 2

Now Kosher, the federal government maybe shut down.

This happens when Congress can neither pass all twelve appropriation bills needed to fund the government nor pass a continuing resolution, and.

Speaker 3

The countdown is on.

Let's hear from Vice President jd.

Vance.

Speaker 19

First of all, we have to keep essential services functioning as well as possible if the Democrats shut down the government, and RUSS has been tasked with making sure that's possible.

To give us about negotiations, one of the things I admired about the President, but frankly, the entire team's approach during the conversation we just had with Chuck Schumer and Hakim Jeffries was you know, yeah, they have some crazy ideas giving taxpayer money.

Speaker 20

To illegal aliens for health care.

That's a crazy idea.

Speaker 19

Funding transgender surgeries in Peru.

Speaker 20

That's a crazy idea, but the hand some ideas that I actually thought were reasonable, and the hand some ideas that the President thought was reasonable.

What's not reasonable is to hold those ideas as leverage and to shut down the government unless we give you everything that.

Speaker 2

You want, funding transgender surgeries in Peru and giving free healthcare to illegal immigrants.

Kosha, Do you think they'll come to a deal before the Wednesday deadline?

Speaker 1

Hard to see.

I think possibly this time they will, or if it goes into shutdown, it'll be a short, very short shutdown.

And I think the reason why one big difference this time compared to last time, which was in Trump's first term twenty eighteen twenty nineteen, it was the longest shutdown, thirty five days, the longest in history.

It came down to the border wall, and ultimately that shutdown was only averted when Trump caved and said he will not keep fighting for I think it was less than six billion dollars for the border wall and never got that money.

This time, the one big, beautiful bill was passed, and what that has done is is completely legislated and funded Trump's agenda the wall enough money for mass deportations, making his tax cuts permanent, and cutting some of those aids for Medicare and SNAP and food stamps in those programs.

So, actually the leverage is totally different this time.

The Republicans have so much more leverage because their key agenda items cannot be held hostage the way it was last time.

And because of that, I think they're going to play more hardball.

And the Democrats ultimately will see that, or they already see that, and I think they probably are the ones who are going to capitulate, but time will tell.

Speaker 2

Yeah, it'll be interesting to see if the Democrats think there's some sort of electoral advantage in shutting down the government and prolonging this as long as they can, or whether it's actually going to hurt them more than it hurts the Trump administration now.

Earlier today, the President reshared this funny post featuring Chuck Schumer and Hakeem jeffreyism telling you, I'm liking AI more and more if you can produce comedy like this.

Speaker 21

Look, guys, there's no way to sugarcoat it.

Nobody likes Democrats anymore.

We have no voters left because of all of our work trands bolts.

Not even black people want to vote for us anymore.

Even Latinos hate us.

So we need new voters.

And if we give all these illegal aliens free healthcare, we might be able to get them on our side so they can vote for us Kosher.

Speaker 2

The fact that the President is sharing content like this leads me to believe he is not terribly worried about this so called crisis.

Speaker 3

But why is this even happening?

If the Republicans of both.

Speaker 2

Houses, why are they not getting their legislation.

Speaker 1

Through the main issue The wedge here is in the Senate.

To avoid a filibuster or bring an end to a filibuster and invote culture, they need sixty votes and they don't have that much of the majority, so that means they seven or eight Democrats or independences that are aligned with Democrats to come over to the side.

And that's I'm sure the horse training and jocking is happening behind the scenes, but I think to your point that the one the calculation the Democrats are making because they have nothing right now.

They have neither chamber, they don't have the Supreme Court, they don't have the White House.

This is one thing they have that they can try to throw a monkey wrench into this, and they would only do that if they think it helps them electorally, and maybe they're miscalculating.

I hope that they are, because videos like this one only shows that they're sort of like running a clown show.

And I don't think it's planned well with the American public.

Speaker 7

But we shall see.

Speaker 2

No, but I'm sure the Democrats will get a very qush run from the media.

They will paint this as just another symptom of the Trump administration being in crisis.

They did that throughout the first term.

This just this constant rolling crisis that it just doesn't have the impact in once hat kosher.

The American electorate is not buying what the media is selling them.

Now, I want to ask you about this major victory for President Trump earlier today.

He took on social media platforms, has taken on media companies and even the might of Google, and he's had another win here.

Google subsidiary YouTube has paid out more than twenty four million dollars to settle a lawsuit that President Trump brought against the platform for suspending his channel after the January sixth riot.

This is a major victory there's another way to look at this kosher for sure.

Speaker 1

And now he is approaching ninety million dollars in such settlements.

Twenty five million from YouTube right now, say, twenty five from Facebook slash Meta, fifteen million from ABC because George Dephanopolis slandered him.

Really, that's what the settlement was on when it was mistating the claims from that Egen Carol case, and then CBS the balance of that.

So that's nine to million.

About two thirds of it is going to his presidential library and the ballroom that's going to be constructed in the White House, which is going to anger i think the left because both those things are permanent things.

It will have Trump's name on it forever more in some way.

And then the one there is going into his pocket.

So it is a win for sure.

It's part of his comeback, the greatest comeback story of all time that's continuing.

These are all civil lawsuits that he's made in his personal capacity, so they're not you know, official lawsuits by the US government.

Those types of things are also pending.

But yeah, on it goes.

He's got a few more in the pike.

The Wall Street Journal, Associated Press, the Pulitzer Prize Committee.

He's suing them as well, giving Politzer prizes to all those people for the Russia Gate reporting and on and on a goot.

So those are going to be funny ones that I think will continue to come out in his favor.

Speaker 3

I'll tell you.

Speaker 2

Accountability is coming for everybody.

And when it comes to Google and particularly YouTube, they admitted that the Biden administration pressured them to deplatform particular individuals to get rid of content that the Biden White House did not want shared.

Speaker 3

I mean, this is a real issue.

Speaker 2

We've had so many people having meltdowns about Jimmy Kimmel being off air for a couple of days.

Speaker 3

This is a real free.

Speaker 2

Speech issue, and I don't think it's got this sort of coverage it deserves.

There were so many ordinary people Kosher impacted.

Speaker 1

Absolutely, that is really the point.

So it's funny, fun and funny to see that accountability and having them to pay up, even though they're just settlements without apologies.

But the real crux, the legal crux of it, is what you say.

And if we think about what happened in the week of January sixth, they completely deplatform the sitting US president because he still was the president until January twenty first from all of those platforms, and then some plus individual people.

They're still being reinstated till this day.

Not all of them have been reinstated.

There's all sorts of people like doctor Naomi Wolf is part of this lawsuit today from YouTube.

She's getting I think two million or so out of that because of COVID vaccine related information that she was sharing, they suspended her.

And there's so many examples about that.

So we've only scratched the surface.

The ultimate remedy for this, I do many do believe is antitrust, which is picking up momentum that they're just too big and the economic power of these five or six companies is so much that it's so hard to do anything around them.

If that happens, I think only then will you see a structural change.

Otherwise it feels like a little bit of ankle biting.

You get some wins here and there, but if the other side comes into power, which they will at some point, I would expect to see this kind of These kinds of tactics unfortunately continue in the future.

Speaker 2

And Kosha, when it comes to Google, you can't overstate their power and influence this is how people find that information.

In the modern age, that've got close to monopoly power, and that can be a dangerous thing, can't it.

Speaker 1

Yeah, it really is scary where they have the economic power, but as you say, unlike an Excello Mobile or some other company like that that's also economically very powerful their market cap, they deal in information flow and opinion shaping and it's only going to get even more amplified with AI and they and all of these tech companies are going into that where now that's further going to control how people think and the masses think.

So this is a big deal.

Antitrust again, I think is the only remedy.

And the issue is that governments in these cases are very very slow relative to how quickly those companies can grow and roll up the whole world and all the information in it, and that imbalance is very tough to combat.

But it is picking up steam, and if it's ever going to happen, it's going to happen in the Trump administration some sort of anti trust case brought by the DOJ.

Speaker 7

But we shall see.

Speaker 3

Kosha geta thank you so much for your time still to come.

Speaker 2

The NFL picks a painfully work artist no one has heard of to perform at the Super Bowl.

Speaker 3

Alex st Mine has the details next Welcome Back.

Speaker 7

Now.

Speaker 2

The NFL are clearly slow learners.

I think it's a good idea to unleash on their sports loving fan base.

A hard left activist singer that most of them have never heard of, a dude called bad Bunny, has been given the honor of performing at the Super Bowl.

Speaker 3

Yes, this dude, and don't worry if you don't know his music.

Speaker 2

I'm sure you're familiar with his stupidly woke brand of politics.

Speaker 8

I'm never performing in the US again.

I'm scared, scared that I might raid the venue outside my show, and honestly, I can risk the safety of my fans like that.

Mainland America just doesn't feel necessary.

Speaker 7

To me anymore.

Speaker 2

Performing in mainland America doesn't feel necessary anymore.

Speaker 3

What does he think the Super Bowl is held?

Speaker 8

You can come see me in Puerto Rico or catch me in one of the other countries I'm visiting.

But I can, in good conscience keep putting you at risk just to perform in the mainland US.

I know for a lot of people this feels like a sacrifice.

Speaker 2

Sacrifice talk about delusions of grandeur.

The only sacrifice is the NFL's credibility and again picking talent that their audience doesn't like, let alone revere what a silly own goal.

Joining me now is a comedian and host of Prime Time with Alex Stein on Blaze tav Alex am I being too.

Speaker 3

Harsh on Bad Bunny.

Is this an inspired choice?

Speaker 22

Oh my gosh, this is the laziest chort voice I've ever seen.

Nobody knows who Bad Bunny is.

Literally, in America, if you're an American, nobody has.

Speaker 9

Heard of this guy.

Speaker 22

I remember when he had a meal at McDonald's.

It was a bad Bunny meal.

I remember asking them who is Bad Bunny and they said the same thing.

They said, literally, nobody knows who he is.

So the fact that he gets, you know, saying at the halftime show when that was a show reserved for the greatest of all performers, people like Michael Jackson, and now it's basically.

Speaker 9

Become some sort of DEI talent show.

So you know it's lost its luster.

Speaker 3

Well, why wouldn't you have some big country star.

Speaker 2

Country is so huge at the moment, and they're selling out massive arenas and the fan base would love that.

It would be such a such a great vibe, so pro America, great music.

Speaker 3

It's just a win, win win.

Speaker 2

It's an obvious option for the NFL, but they've decided to do this again now, Alex.

The were heartwarming scenes on the wakend with penste football fans sported in the crowd wearing Charlie Kirk's Freedom T shirts.

This was at a Saturday night's game against Oregon, which was Kirk's team.

Charlie loved the Oregon team and they had a fantastic win in that game thirty twenty four over Penn State.

Tell me about this ongoing tribute to Charlie.

I noticed Jason al Dean has played a video before his concerts of Charlie.

Speaker 3

We're not going to forget what happened to Charlie Kirk.

Speaker 22

Well, you know, the tragedy surrounding Charlie Kirk's death cannot really ever be understated, the ripple and the effects that it will have across time.

So he's going to be immortalized and we're going to constantly be there to celebrate Charlie.

Speaker 9

It's still incredibly sad.

Speaker 22

And I saw that, you know, Turning Point had a great turnout, the hand it over five thousand T shirts and Happy Valley Pennsylvania and penn Stead ended up winning.

So of course Charlie's very happy with the massive turnout when it comes to new chapters on campuses.

Speaker 9

So overall, Turning Point has increased its reach.

Speaker 22

But it's still just such a tragedy reader, just knowing that that guy would have done so much more than Turning Point, which Turning Point is an incredible organization, but you know this guy was literally on his way to be absolutely.

Speaker 9

It's just a tough situation.

Reader.

Speaker 2

Oh, I know, and I know you two work close and it's personally very difficult for you as well.

Speaker 3

Let's talk about arian At Grande.

Speaker 2

She's a songstress and an actress and she posted a rather controversial rant on social media attacking Trump voters.

Well, the White House has responded to Arianna, and they had a fair bit to say, including this, save your tears, Arianna, because President Trump's actions ended Joe Biden's inflation crisis, and I bring in trillions in new investments, a White House spokesman said in a statement, Tell me about this rather strange feud, Alex.

Speaker 9

It is a strange feud, but she's out for blood.

Speaker 22

You know, she's one of Pete Davidson's exes, and if you dated Pete Davidson, he kind of creates some sort of fury inside of a woman that really it's a flame that cannot be put out or extinguished.

So I wouldn't want to fight Ariana Grande if I was the Trump administration.

So really this is kind of my warning to the Trump administration be careful because Ariana Grande.

Speaker 9

Is somebody not to mess with.

So, you know, I do think Trump needs to watch his ps and qs.

Speaker 3

Well, I'm surprised by your your take on this.

Speaker 2

She's a very diminutive young woman.

You're scared of Ariana.

I'm surprised by.

Speaker 1

This, well read it.

Speaker 9

She is so thin.

Speaker 22

I mean, she does kind of give off like a witch or black magic, and you know she played a witch.

Speaker 9

So I just I wouldn't want to mess with Ariana Grandet.

Speaker 22

She's probably into the occult and all of that weird Hollywood stuff.

So once again, Trump has dealt with worse Ariana Grande, But me personally, I don't want any of that smoke.

Speaker 2

You are scared of Ariana.

This is information I can use now before you go.

Page six has been reporting Alex that Baron Trump, the president's youngest child, had an entire four of Trump Tower shut down for a date, obviously for security reasons.

I'm telling you, Baron Trump, I think people don't understand the role he played in having President Trump reelected, the way he influenced the President to reach out to young mal voters by going on those podcasts, by going on all sorts of platforms that he otherwise wouldn't have considered.

Speaker 7

You know, I have the.

Speaker 22

Utmost respect for Don Junior and Eric Trump, but let's be real, I think it was Baron Trump that was the X factor in connecting President Trump with people like Aiden Ross and encouraging him to go on alternative media platforms.

And no president that was running in an election would even consider.

So Baron Trump is the future.

And then you know, I really am not surprised that he's a romantic guy like this.

His dad is a legendary, you know, romantic man from New York City, so like fatherlake Son, and I'm sure Baron.

Speaker 9

Will have the pick of the litter.

Speaker 22

So you know, I'm excited to see who's dating that that's the next big reveal.

Speaker 9

I want to see who she is.

Speaker 7

Well.

Speaker 2

Can you imagine the pressure if you're eating a cast with Baron Trump and he's blocking off an entire floor of Trump Tower.

Speaker 3

For a date.

I mean everyone has to step up their game in that setting.

Speaker 2

Alex Stein, thank you so much for your time as always, and that's it for me.

Speaker 3

Newsnight is up next.

I'll see you at eleven tomorrow.

Speaker 7

Night six

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