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I'm Danikiti Giorgio Coming up tonight calls for desecrating the Australian flag to be criminalized after one was set alight during an Invasion Day rally.

A song released by One Nation.

Leader Pauline Hanson, poking fun at woke culture, hits number one on the Aussie music charts.

And guess what Triple J might soon be forced to play it.

Angela Mollard is coming up.

Former Home Secretary Suella Braverman has become the third Conservative MP in less than two weeks to defect to reform UK Kosher Gada will tell us what it means for the Tories.

Donald Trump sends his borders our Tom Homan to Minneapolis to directly take control of ICE operations.

Alex Stein has the.

Latest and of course left He's losing it as anti ICE activists freak out.

Coming after me because they use bad language.

You I'm on the right side of this.

You.

But first, the Left couldn't help but offend the vast majority of us who love this country.

On Australia Day, or as they call it, Invasion Day.

Vision obtained by the Curier Mail shows Indigenous man Mugiti addressing the crowd while holding an Australian flag before lighting it on fire and dropping it to the ground.

A police spokesperson said Queensland Police were aware of the incident but are not considering charges now.

Look, you won't be shocked to hear that the Greens are all for the desecration of our flag.

Greens counselor Trina Massey said First Nations people had a right to act however they.

Want on a day of morning.

Give me a break.

Johnny now Is News Corps senior writer Patrick Carline and former Labor MP Michael Danby.

Great to see you both, Thanks for joining me.

Happy New Year and look, you know, Patrick, as I said, the Left can't help themselves.

Should it be a criminal offense in your view to desecrate the Australian flag.

Look what you're doing when you burn the Australian flag's basically putting ninety nine percent of Australia against you.

The rest of it.

It doesn't represent Australian values and I think there's been I think the Queensland premier earlier today talked about he's in support of a ban on burning the flag and I think if you do surveys on days like today, you get overwhelming support for banging it because who is moved to try and burn the symbol of our unity?

I mean is it is a terrible thing to do, very offensive and it's a stunt every time.

And it's always from the left, isn't it.

It's always from the left.

They always resort to violence, it seems, Michael, when you know people disagree with them, they can't just have a proper discussion like normal people.

They resort to these sorts of stunts.

I think you exposing them and naming that particular person is the best disinfectant to this kind of behavior.

Your Danika.

If we ban there might be afraid that a whole lot of them would do it to attract publicity in martyrdom.

But I really think people who do this kind of unpatriotic stuff on Australia Day will to be exposed and have the searchlight of public opinion put on them.

Yeah, I couldn't agree more.

I think it's a disgrace and it is it is offensive to the vast majority of us who love this country and as you said, Patrick, love our values.

And I just want to compare that to scenes we saw in Cronulla in Sydney last night.

Have a look at this.

Thousands turned out to celebrate.

I mean, the sheer number of people who said, Yep, this is our country.

Let's get down onto the beach, no fights, no protests, Patrick, And you know, it reminded me of that recent IPA poll that found the majority of Ozzie's Onetown National Day celebrated on January twenty six, and it was actually been led by younger people, by that younger generation.

That's right.

Look, there are some awful scenes yesterday in the protests across a lot of the capitals cities.

But against that, I think Australia was sort of Reganiant's mojo.

I think people are apt accepting it again as a gentle celebration of what you and I and everyone else thinks as of being Australian and celebrating that and being unified.

So I think Australia has definitely got his legs back.

And you look at those numbers, as you say, with young people, that's great looking for the future.

But you still have these mal contents who kick up and create rebels on Australia Day.

Yeah, and I want to get to some of those protests that you mentioned shortly.

But Michael, I mean, isn't it great to see those scenes in Sydney And they were also similar scenes elsewhere in the country.

And I just wonder if you know the events of the last few years, particularly after.

Bondi, it's actually brought the country together.

What do you think, Well, sadly that what happened at Bondi people together.

I like those scenes at Cronulla too.

I remember once Stanika, when I wrote to every constituent in Port Melbourne by Facebook and email that the local green wanted to close down Australia Day.

The council immediately collapsed.

Because they don't want people to know that they're up to these kind of things.

So I think the number of councils and rat bags who are trying to close down Australia Day have ceased.

And it's interesting even woolies have given.

Put up their hands and have started distributing Australia Day material.

Of course you got to pay for it.

Yeah, Well, as I say, go woke, go broke, so I think Woolies learnt the lessons of the past.

Now look, let's talk about those rallies.

There were some shocking scenes at the March for Australia rally in Sydney, which was hijacked by alleged neo Nazis.

One man was charged for alleged hate speech after speaking at an open mic session, and over in Melbourne police are investigating an incident of racial abuse where a man allegedly performed a Nazi salute.

Patrick.

The thing is these protests, these Marches for Australia, they represent a big issue and that is that they're calling to lower migration.

And there's no doubt the majority of Ozsies want to see lower migration.

But the problem is is that they're being hijacked by alleged Neo Nazis, which I think is a shame because the overall theme is lower migration.

But it's become a far right disgrace.

That's right.

Look, immigration is such an important issue.

Everybody has a view on us.

It gets very emotional and that demands sensible discussion.

When you have these extreme right figures coming out and really saying dreadful things as they did yesterday.

It really does hijack.

I think you used the word hijack.

It's the right word.

The whole debate gets hijacked by these extreme elements.

And look, we're sick of extremists in Australia.

We've had extremists going for you since October twenty three.

We want sensible debates about things that really matter to an awful lot of Australians, such as immigration.

Yeah, absolutely, I think that.

Honestly, it's a vote driving issue now, Michael, along with cost of living that people do want to see lower migration.

And yes, you can protest about it that you want lower migration.

But the problem is when the message is now being hijacked by alleged neo Nazis.

Daniki, you, me.

And Patrick can all be in favor of lower immigration figures.

I noticed the ABC is claiming that they've declined in the last seven quarters, but they were far too high for far too long.

The problem is the very politically naive, or inexperienced or just dumb organizers of these rallies have open mics where they discredit the anti immigration or lower immigration issue by letting these nutcase far right fools take the mic and pretend that they're part of the rally.

So if you're organizing an.

Anti immigration or lower immigration rally, do not give a platform to neo Nazis.

Absolutely, do not give a platform for it, because it just takes the real messages out that needs to be discussed.

Look, let's talk about the Liberal Party leadership.

What a week it's been.

Andrew Hasty and Angus Taylor are fronting up as the contenders possibly to topple Susan Lee, and there are conversations over now whether they'll actually unite and launch a joint bid.

Lee will remain as opposition leader if no one puts forward a motion during Tuesday's party room meeting that's in a week from today, Patrick, Look, it does seem like Susan Lee's days are numbered, There's no doubt about it.

How do you see this playing out?

Look, it's difficult to say at this point, Danika.

I mean, look, it's been a slow motion car crash that goes back many months.

The Liberal Party has been disarrayed, being fragmented.

You've got the conservatives on one side, you've got the moderates on the other.

No one can sort of agree to sort of unite under one banner.

I think Susan Lee's in big trouble.

I think it's probably a two horse It's very difficult to say at this stage who's going to get it, and we're going to really have to wait.

Like all of this sort of debarcle, it's all in slow motion.

We should be holding the government to account.

We should be talking about what governments are doing and what they're not doing.

It's happened in Victoria and it's happened at a federal level over many months.

Now.

Yeah, look, you're spot on.

It's interesting as well, Michael.

A number of the moderates in the Liberal Party have come out this morning they say no, no, we're all behind Susan Lee.

There's going to be no challenge.

It's all good, but clearly there needs to be some sort of level of change.

There's no doubt.

They're going to say that Tonika, she's their woman.

Now.

I'm not a big fan of Angus Taylor, the American comedian on Australian to call in the phrase charisma bypass, but Andrew Hasty, I do feel sorry for him.

He lives in West Australia, he's got a young family, he's the obvious man.

Didn't you marvel at what he seid response to Donald Trump's denigration of the forty seven Australian heroes who were killed fighting with the Americans in Afghanistan.

What a big person Andrew was to say that that's the way.

Even if you're a conservative, you don't have to agree with Donald Trump.

He's obviously the coming man.

But I hope for his sake that he doesn't grab the poison chalice of the liberal leadership too early.

No, look, that's a fair point, and I do wonder how it would go having an opposition leader based in Western Australia.

But again, if he's the man for the job, and I think he's a very strong conservative, If he is a man, I just hope that it brings some life to conservative politics, which we so desperately need now.

Look, universities are rebelling against Labour's new education watch dog.

This proposed Australian Tertiary Education Commission would oversee university funding and student numbers by negotiating agreements with every UNI.

But we've got universities.

Australian out complaining that the legislation to establish it would give the Federal Education Minister Jason Clair, too much can over funding and research.

Patrick, is this overreach or fair enough in your view?

Look, I think unis have looked poor for a number of years now.

They've looked like the playthings of the left.

As one of the vice chancellors said, the perception has become they've been too tolerant to the intolerant when it comes to pro Palestine protesters in the past couple of years.

And you've got academics now saying I'm not going to cite another academic who disagrees with me on issues such as Gaza.

I mean, that's not about pursuing excellence, that's about ideology.

I think the unis really have got hamstrung, getting wrapped up in ideologies and trying to sort of satisfy niche groups within the universities at the expense of better education.

Oh look, I mean universities have been an absolute cess pit, let's be honest.

For the last two years, it's been a disgrace.

So no, I understand, Michael.

I want to ask you about Iran.

This is a very important story and Iranian news publication is reporting that over thirty six thousand people have been killed during the height of the protests that took place earlier this month, and it says that based on the data, it makes the killings the bloodiest massacre of civilians during street protests over a two day period in history, and Time magazines reporting the death toll is over thirty thousand.

It's getting worse.

Michael.

You know, I just wonder.

I feel like the US could have, you know, almost could have stopped this.

But how do you see this playing out.

The biggest massacre in history of the same nature and size took place this day in nineteen forty two in the Kiev Cemetery, when the Nazis lined up all of the Jews of Kiev and murdered thirty two thousand of them in one shot, one series of shootings.

So this is terrible.

If this is of that size, what a dreadful regime to do this to your own people.

But it just shows you the effect, unfortunately, of the American icelationists Tucker Carlson, Candas Owens and maybe even JD Events.

If the only restraint on Trump is that his isolation is right flank back in America, any righteous president previously would have been able to hit the headquarters of the IRGC and the besiege and allow the people who have Iran to liberate themselves.

So it's a strange position for Donald to be in because he's against foreign interventions, but.

In a sense he has to do this one or you look a fool.

That's it.

I mean, he had his finger on the pulse with this for so long.

Let's hope it doesn't loosen up, because this is absolutely shocking.

Before we let you go, I just want to change pace really really quickly.

Patrick Ozzie Nick Kurios may be out of the Aussie Open, but he's not out of the headlines.

The night before his second round mixed doubles match on Monday, which he lost, he was apparently out at CBD hotspot there where you are bub barb bamby until the early hours.

Of the morning.

I mean, what's he doing, Patrick?

Look, I can almost give him a lead pass for this one.

He's got wrists, he's got saw newes and now he's going to have a very sore head.

He lost the doubles the following afternoon.

Look, he's not playing to his best.

He's not.

I'd let him go on this one.

He's having fun.

If you look at the footage, everyone was having a good time.

Good on him.

Yeah, I feel like he is the king of fun this blot guard.

Whether or not it translates on the tennis court, I'm not so sure.

Good to have you both on, Michael Dan b Patrick Carline, thanks for joining me on the show.

Joining me now is News Corp columnist Angela Mollard.

Angela.

Good to see you as always.

Thanks for your time.

Let's start with this song released by One Nation leader Pauline Hanson and performed by Ossie singer and actress Holly the Lance.

It's hit number one spot on the Apple Music iTunes Best Selling Song charts.

The satirical song is called Kiss, Kiss my arm us.

Let's have a listen.

We are respect.

The sheep another and how sell original.

Angela, I love this.

I love it because it pokes fun at the woke.

But the funniest part of it all is that if enough copies are sold, the song could be forced to be played on stations across the country like Triple J.

Can you imagine if the ABC had to play that?

Oh, the ABC will have an absolute conniption if they have to play this on Triple J.

But isn't she clever.

They say that baby boomers cannot use social media, and here is seventy one year old Pauline Hanson absolutely harnessing the power of YouTube, the power of satire, this kind of South Park style of animation.

And this is not the first one she's done.

She's just driving these messages home on woke issues, and whether you agree with them or not, whether you find the offensive or not, she is delivering a message at a time when the Coalition has absolutely no cohesive policy or messaging themselves.

And the key thing about this, of course, is that it's shareable content.

People are actually seeing these messages, clipping them up and sharing them, so she's getting that cut through that you wouldn't imagine.

That's a really good point.

Actually, she is harnessing the.

Power of social media and by doing that, she's actually getting young people on board, and that is something that the Coalition are missing right now.

I think that's a really good point.

But anyway, I love that song.

I think it's hilarious.

Now we've got to talk about the Beckhams.

The family have made their first joint public appearance since eldest child Brooklyn, went nuclear on his parents last week.

David and Victoria were joined by their three younger children, Romeo, Cruz and Harper as Victoria received a new Acola accolade rather by becoming a Knight of the Order of Arts and Letters.

We know that Brooklyn has said he doesn't want to reconcile was with his family.

He's accused his parents of attacking him and his wife Nicola Peltz Angela.

Look when you.

See those photos that they certainly put on a brave and united face today, but it can't be easy behind the scenes.

Look to be honest, Victoria looked very fragile and very terrified when she came out.

Of course that this was applauded for her.

She was in totally within her wheelhouse, you know, fashion in France.

She'd been to a fashion show beforehand.

She'd been there with Anna Winter, obviously the former editor in chief of Vogue, So she was completely with people that she was comfortable with.

But she looked so uncomfortable.

But this is what Bran Beckham does best.

They get the family together.

If you think about it, Janika, when David was with there was speculation that he had cheated on her, and you know, everything points to the fact that he did all those years ago.

She just came out fighting.

So all the time with the Beckhams, it's all about messaging.

But gosh, I so want to see that video of her dancing at the wedding.

Everyone wants it, someone must have it.

Can we please just see it?

I want to see if she really did hijack that dance.

As Brook complaimed, Yeah, release the tapes.

I say, release the tapes.

We want to see what this quote inappropriate dance was so we could put all these speculation rumors to bed.

Because the memes have been absolutely hilarious.

Let's talk about Carnie West.

He's published a whole page advertisement in the Wall Street Journal apologizing for his anti Semitic rants.

West alleged he sustained a brain injury after a car incident in two thousand and two, which went unnoticed at the time, and he said his bipolar disorder caused him to be drawn toward the most destructive symbol he could find, the swatsika.

I don't know if I believe that.

Angel.

It's the old mental health excuse.

Look, it's a massive mayor culper, and I don't like to critique people when they claim mental health is their reasoning.

But you know what, there's an apology and there is accountability.

This is two thousand and two, and some of the things that he has said in the last twenty three twenty four years.

Have been absolutely appalling.

Yes in the jewe hating space, in the anti seminitism that he's shown, but also behaviors towards people like Taylor Swift that the MTV Awards when he absolutely was mortifyingly humiliated her.

So this behaviors gone on for a very long time.

Apparently this is this decision to take out this ad was very much encouraged by his wife Biankerson Sorry, who of course is Australian.

She said to him, you need to do this, but I want to see some proper accountability from Kanye West.

This is a forty eight year old man with four children.

He needs to be s setting an example.

And I don't think being able to pay for one advert in the Wall Street Journal is enough of a recognition of his wrongdoing.

Yeah, it certainly doesn't atone him for all the cruel and hateful comments that he's been making over the last few years.

Exactly now cereal clout chasers who want privacy Prince Harry and Meghan.

They've appeared at the Sun Dan's Film Festival to promote their latest documentary.

This one's called Cookie Queens.

I mean, good grief, it's not exactly enticing you to go watch it, is it.

The film follows a story of four determined girl scouts as they navigate the multimillion dollar business of cookie sales.

But the doco is already turning out to be yet another flop for the couple.

It failed to sell out and fill the theater at the festival.

Who would have thought, Angela, I mean, why don't they just buger off to Montecito and stop with these business ventures that fail every time.

Meghan is citing her Time and the Girl Guides as the beginning of her entrepreneurialship because she managed to sell cookies.

And this is what the ethos of this film is about.

Honestly, she must sometimes go to bed at night and wonder, how the hell did I make the decision to turn down the Queen's offer of a Commonwealth role where she and Harry together could have had so much power and influence and meaning and purpose on the world stage.

If you remember, the Queen offered the couple that role.

They could have based themselves in Australia or Canada or any Commonwealth country and had real impact.

Instead, their company, which has not been making much money, has putting out this Girl Guide film.

Honestly, what a fool from Grace.

I think you know the potential that this couple had and they went and completely squandered it.

And you know what, on a quiet moment at home, I think they both know it.

I agree, I reckon deep down they know that they've stuffed this whole thing up, and that's why they keep coming up with these ideas.

Cookie Queens is next.

I mean, good grief, Angela Mollard.

Nice to see you as always, Thanks so much for joining me on the show.

Still to come, left He's losing it.

Plus Donald Trump sends his borders are Tom Homan to Minneapolis to take direct control of ICE operations.

Kosher Gada will join me next, and now it.

Is time for lefties losing it and CNN continues to be the home base for all sorts of wild and wacky characters who go on the network and spew absolute nonsense.

This lefty has gone as far as to imply that ICE agents will soon start to put people.

In ovens, christand that that they take people to Fort Snelling here which literally was built as a concentration camp, and Alligator Alcatraz, which I think we can all agree is a concentration camp.

Not saying they're data.

I'm not saying they're putting people in ovens yet, but these are concentration camps.

Okay, I don't need to argue with you.

Yeah.

Yeah, Another scene in Propaganda's, this time with a pink beanie on of course talking crap.

And obviously ice agents are not going all Hannibal Lecter.

They're not cooking, baking and marinating people in ovens when they're actually busy doing an important job, believe it or not in Jake Tapper or note just sits there and takes it.

I mean, it's just crazy nonsense.

Now, speaking of Hollywood's having a complete freak out, these precious elites, actresses Natalie Portman and Olivia Wilde think they're just so cool wearing their ice out pins silent though on Iran, no mention on Iran.

And here is actress and serial bonker's woman Glenn Close.

Obraged and sickened by what is happening under the Trump regime, the cruelty inhumanity and arrogance, the ferucious corruption, the cowardice, the sickening hypocrisy, the bleatant manipulation of facts, and now the cold blooded murder of American citizens.

Yeah, what about the rapes, the drugs, the cartels, the illegal No, no, not sickened by all that, and the same facts seem to have also avoided.

The brian of actress Jenna or Tega.

Absolutely devastating, and I'm moreified.

I'm really encouraged by the spirit of the American people and the people who feel they need to say something.

But the lack of any real resolution or kind of reprimanding against the officers is incredibly writening and disappointing to see from our government.

Right, and remember alleged singer Moby No, he's barely memorable, is he?

And here's a reason for it.

What are we going to do about it?

One protest.

It's a constitutionally established right, and it's a right that Trump and his administration are trying to take away from us.

So whether it's protesting on the street, whether it's protesting on social media, protesting at work, however, we need to keep protesting to vote, not just in the upcoming midterms, although that's very important, but in all of the special elections that happened throughout the year three.

Stop supporting the scumbag corporations who support Trump and Ace.

Right and even British actor Will Polter weighed in and not quite grasping the concept of illegal versus legal migration.

It's really upsetting to see people forget that, you know, where a country that we have immigrants to thank for, and I feel the same way about my home country in the UK.

It's quite comical when you think about the migrant crisis in Britain, but there's not a lot going on when it comes to the elite.

Now speaking of stupid, Minneapolis Police Chief Brian O'Hara has insinuated that the outrage over the Ice shooting is really based on fields.

Greater issue is even if there is an investigation that ultimately proves that at the time of the shooting it was legally justified, I don't think that even matters at this point because they're just there is so much outrage and concern around what is happening in the city.

How many said the quiet part out loud.

It's all about feels and vibes.

And now to delivery nurse Lexi Lawler, who lost her job after she posted a foul mouthed tirade on social media where she wished White House Press Secretary Caroline Leavitt severe medical complications during childbirth.

They're really lovely, these lefties, aren't they.

And well, now she's absolutely and completely lost the plot.

So they just murdered a man in Minnesota.

They murdered a man in Minnesota, and you.

Must be running after me because they use bad language.

You I'm on the right side of this.

You just another example of a tolerant white liberal woman.

They're always so lovely, aren't they.

Now?

The hard party lifestyle of the seventies and eighties is really showing up in the brain of former Pink Floyd frontman Roger Waters.

He was a few weeks ago backing would you believe the oppressive Iranian regime?

So, just to be clear, you support the protesters and you support the regime.

Yes, of course.

I would love regimes where people could protest like the good woman who was just murdered in Minneapolis, and the government could govern for the benefit of the people.

I live in the United States, where the government does not govern for the benefit of the people.

And showing why he's really and truly lost his marbles, Roger Waters has backtracked.

I misspoke.

I apologize.

I said I support the regime.

What I support is the country of Iran and I support its people's right to self determination.

So anything that can be done to dissuade the United States and Israel or from starting a war with her on I would encourage.

Do I like the Ayatola whatever his name is, No, I don't.

Yes, simple, A very easy mistake to make.

Right.

He meant the country, not the regime.

All totally normal, All totally normal.

Roger has clearly become comfortably dumb.

And now to the lefties of OZ, have a listen to this illiterate hack right in this country in Australia who pulls up on his bike and was having a tantrum at a family waving the Australian flag on Australia Day.

Why do you help me?

Why don't.

I hope the white genocide does happen because you.

Guys are.

Yeah, that's all flag.

It's genocidal country.

Twenty four the highest years for Aboriginal deaths in custody and you just stand there like a nobody waving around there.

What an absolute delight, a real national treasure right there.

Please make sure that we keep him in this country.

And it doesn't help when our own Prime minister makes a mockery of himself.

Here he is looking like he's quite literally diving headfirst into an Aboriginal smoking ceremony.

He just can't help himself, Kenny and I wonder how much taxpayers were charged for that.

And then there's the ever unhinged anti Australian complete wacko so called influenza Abby Chatfield, who actually unfollows friends on social media when they celebrate Australia Day.

But this might be her brightest idea yet.

She now wants us to pay random Aboriginals reparations.

Paying the rent.

Right, if you want to pay the rent, if you want to contribute today on Invasion Day, I'm going to pay the rent dot net dot au I believe it is.

And you can pay the rent as reparations for us living on Aboriginal land.

I think many of us pay enough for rent already, But thank you for your concern, Abby joining me now is sky New's contributor Kosher, Gada Kosha, thanks for joining me.

Let's start in the UK.

Former Home Secretary Sella Braverman has become the latest Conservative MP to defect to Reform UK.

She's actually the third sitting Tory to join Nigel Faraja's party in the last eleven days.

Here she was making that announcement.

The truth is.

That in recent years I have found myself effectively in a social democrat, left leaning party made up of Conservatives in name only.

There is no way on earth that the Conservative Party will ever take the United Kingdom out of the e s HR.

And there is no way on earth it will ever keep its promises.

To you well, Kosher.

She didn't mince her words there.

If you were Tory leader, kemmy Baden not right now, you'd be tearing your hair out.

But three defections in less than two weeks.

Where does this leave the Conservatives and what does it mean for the Tories?

It feels like realignment is in the air, Danikaz, certainly in the UK and everywhere because all these things are connected.

This of course is an out growth of Brexit, and they're dissatisfaction with the execution of that after the people did very clearly vote for it.

Of course, you have the populist movement in the US and how Trump hijacked the Republican Party much in the same way and defeated the Bush dynasty, that Clinton dynasty, et cetera.

Of course, what we saw right here at home with the coalition split last week and One Nation surgeon in the polls, it's all sort of shades of the same story.

And so I think in the UK, I mean, look, their next election isn't until a few years, so that is a lifetime, multiple lifetimes and politics.

But right now, the Tories really really seemed to be down after an eighty year majority, and the movement that is ascendant is populism.

Nigel Fraj is heading that and I would not be surprised if we see more defections between now and election day.

Yeah, you're right, obviously, and it's happened here with One Nation of course, Barnaby Joyce going over.

It's fascinating the world of conservative politics right now.

But look, let's go to the US.

We need to talk about ice.

Donald Trump is sending his borders our Tom Homan to take control of operations in Minneapolis.

Here was White House Press Secretary Caroline Leavitt.

Borders are home in is in a unique position to drop everything and go to Minnesota to continue having these productive conversations with state and local officials.

And I know that he's catching a plane in just a few hours to do just that at the request of the president.

This is big news, Kosher.

It's been a look a fascinating a few weeks for Ice.

What sort of a role will he have on the ground, How big of a difference will it make.

I think the core issue that the Trump administration is grappling with is this dichotomy where on the policy itself around illegal immigration, they have the public support for immigration more broadly, and it really is remarkable just in the last decades since President Trump entered the scene, he remade the national discourse on this issue where today seventy percent of the country is in support of deporting all illegals, not just the criminal, violent ones, but all of them.

So that he's got a win.

But then on the next stage of that is what that looks like.

That is where the country is split and they are losing support by the day from the Democrats and the independents who don't like what it looks like and the US citizens have been shot even though they injected themselves into it and all the rest of it.

So I think he's trying to battle the court of public opinion while staying true to the policy win.

And Tom Holman is ultimately his guy.

He's been dealing with this for twenty plus years under multiple administrations.

He's very true to the cause, seems to be a steadier hand on the wheel in terms of dealing with the media and the press.

And it's sort of like a change up from Greg Bovine, who was the previous face of this and maybe has been muddied up a little bit in the media.

So they're doing a bit of a switcher room for optics.

The real question is are they going to fundamentally change the policy and the way that they're executing on it or not, And that is I think where these fault lines are drawn, and the left and the rate are in a fever pitch on this issue.

Well, I think Trump will be seeing it as a win that Governor Tim Wolds has finally agreed to cooperate after many months of really being a complete delinquent.

Quite frankly when it comes to this issue, Governor Waltz.

Trump said that Governor Tim Walds called me with a request to work together with respect to Minnesota, and you mentioned as well Gregory Bovino, the administration's announced that he will leave Minnesota along with some of his agents.

Have a listen to this.

If Governor Waltz and Mayor Fry implement these common sense cooperative measures, CBP will no longer be needed to support ICE on the ground in Minnesota.

ICE in local law enforcement will peacefully work together, as they are effectively doing in so many other states and jurisdictions to remove violent criminals from American neighborhoods across the country.

Look, Kosha, no doubt tensions are high following the second fatal shooting this month in Minneapolis by immigration officials.

But good to have Walls finally on board.

He had no choice.

Yes, Now, many would say seeing is believing, because, as politicians tend to do, there can be great phone calls and handshakes, and then the devil's in the details.

And he is very clearly on one side of this because he's presided over the fiasco that is illegal immigration in the state of Minnesota over the last several years.

But yes, if they do this one narrow thing that Caroline Lovett was alluding to over there of cooperating on detainers, and what that specifically is is the ordered priority by the Trump administration is of course to get the violent criminal illegals out first and then go for the non violent illegals.

And a lot of them are in the jail.

It is known to the state and local authorities and they willfully do not cooperate or they withhold that information from the FEDS, who are ultimately solely in charge of immigration policy enforcement.

So that is what theoretically Tim Wallas is now agreeing he will cooperate with That is a big win to get those folks out if he does that.

Trump loves to give a little, take a little, that's his negotiation style, so I would see him maybe taking down the surge of agents or getting CBP out of there as you mentioned, and just leaving ice in there or something like that to try and lower the temperature, which is a good thing for everybody.

But I think people are very scarred by what has happened in the country over the last half century on illegal immigration, and the proof will be in the pudding.

Well, look, that's it.

And look, the country is scarred and Donald Trump was elected on a mandate to rid the country of illegal immigration, so he's doing exactly what he was voted in for.

Now.

I found this next one quite interesting.

The chief of NATO has dropped a truth bomb admitting that Europe is incapable of defending itself without America.

Have a look, and if anyone thinks here again that the European Union or Europe's aval can dessent itself as out to us, keep on dreaming.

You count, we comet, We need each other kosher.

That's quite a stark admission from NITA.

Of course, fresh off the back of Trump's threats to take Grainland.

Doesn't this just prove Trump right all along?

Yes, some would say he's been captain obvious or general obvious.

We should say with that, because everybody knows that the US has underwritten security and defense for Europe since World War Two.

I would actually positive that it's probably in Europe's best interest to move the needle towards more self reliance.

But as Markreta said, that is not easy.

That these countries are all in running on massive deaths and deficits as we know, so is the US.

But the US still spends a massive amount on defense as an outcome of what happened post World War two, and Europe doesn't.

And they're just not in a position to start spending three, four or five or even ten percent of their GDP on defense, as he mentioned over there, unless they're willing to severely, severely put in police austerity measures, restrict their immigration, do spending cuts across the board, cut their generous social services and safety nets that they have, which they don't seem to have the appetite to do, at least not yet.

And therefore they are reliant on the US and that comes with the price.

Greenland is one manifestation of it.

There might be others where the US has more power, and if there's a president that's willing to exert that power, such as the current one is, you might see things like that happen that may not have been fathomable or comprehensible to people a few short years ago.

Well that's true.

I mean he went there last week Davos, with all these threats and then suddenly said, no, we're at peace.

I'm not taking Greenland, not imposing those tariffs.

But again, interesting admission, and it is a correct admission from NATO.

There, let's talk Iran.

Look, it's getting worse.

The Iranian regime has reportedly now issued nationwide shoot to kill at protesters.

The death tolls rising, Kosher, it is getting worse.

At what point does the US have to intervene here?

Because it almost felt like the US could have shut this down from the beginning, and it hasn't done that yet.

How do you say this playing out?

This is a really tricky one because the death toll is rising.

It's a very opaque regime, so we never have perfectly transfer parent information.

Of course, we would hope that the US president and his team do with better intel assets, but be that as it may, it is getting worse.

By the same token, the US president does not really want to get sucked into another quagmire, is the way it's often described in the Middle East after the failed But he and his base certainly believe and the majority of Americans believe the failed adventurism of the last twenty five years with the war on Terror, So he's grappling with that.

I think he's comfortable with doing surgical strikes like the Twelve Day War, or going in capturing Maduro here and there, and even there, he does pay a little bit of a price politically with his base that does not like that, because they fear that it's a slippery slope to more interventionism.

And I think that's a lot he's walking right now.

We see the ships moving into that region, Signals being put out there.

The Iatola is reportedly in hiding because he's worried about some saturgical strike at any moment.

But then also Trump is showing being measured that really it is not the US's job to police the world, as henous as the atrocities may be in the streets of Iran.

No, look, that is a fair point.

But yeah, gee, it's just it's not getting any better over in Iran.

They're really desperately fighting over there for their freedoms, that's for sure.

Now.

Look, speaking of wars, the remaining the remains.

Of the last Israeli hostage in Gaza have been found and identified.

This is Ran Billy.

He was killed and taken into the strip on October seven, twenty twenty three.

Look, there's no doubt this brings another end to a chapter in this massacre.

I guess what happens now is the focal point kosher.

Does it pave the way for this second phase of the ceasefire to begin.

That is certainly the promise.

I think it lifts a little bit of a political price that net Yahoo, Primister Netanya, who had paid in terms of why fairly or not, why it took so long to get all the hostages and the remains out, he can finally punctuate that and put an end to it and close that horrible chapter in his nation's history.

And yes, that was the precursor for then opening up the crossing.

The Board of Peace met when everybody was gathered in Davos recently, and that is sort of getting off the ground.

So all these things are coming into place, and we hope that this is something a little bit new.

I think the core and the fundamentals of that region remain, and the danger of the conflicts that have happened throughout time do remain.

But if the cease far holds and there are new structures in place, like the Board of Peace and this chapter ending, and the US president right now being more stronger than the last one, and all the rest of the factors that go into this, we can hope that we're moving another step in the right direction after a very very bad few years.

Look, absolutely no doubt that Donald Trump has made this happen that you know, we can hopefully close this chapter and move into phase two of the ceasefire.

And it really is thanks to the US President.

I want to end on China.

The leadership of Beijing's military is in turmoil, the Chinese Defense Ministry said.

The vice chairman of the Central Military Commission, which controls the armed forces, is under investigation and accused of serious violations of discipline and law.

All eyes are really now on Taiwan.

Kosher where does it leave Taiwan?

Does it now de escalate that threat?

Yes, this was definitely a big news.

And of course China is another o peak regime, so it's really hard to know the what and the why.

But this person who has removed was aristocratic almost within the party.

He was a war vat himself in the China and Vietnam War.

I think he steed something like seven years past his retirement that he was eligible for and President she personally tapped him to remain seven years past his retirement and then remove him.

So that is definitely shocking news.

And he was in charge, as you say of the Taiwan command.

Now we're all reading into this.

What does this mean?

I don't know.

I don't think anybody knows, given the opaque regime.

What we do know is that China is moving closer to some sort of reunification strategy or execution of that strategy, whether it's today, whether it's years from now.

And I think removing a particular general, as controversial and surprising as it is, doesn't take away from that they played the long game.

They are the strongest that they've ever been.

And the US has signaled that it doesn't again want to go around policing the world or certainly get involved in a kinetic head to head battle against China without coming out and saying it.

Trump has signaled that to Shi in other forums.

So I think all those things bode in the direction of China moving towards that.

But again it's anybody's guests when it may or may not happen.

Yeah, and it was only last week when the ambassador said basically, if you're not with us, you're against us.

Let's see if Australia gets drawn into this.

Koshagada, thanks for your time.

As always, still to come.

Bill Maher serves up truth bombs and calls out woke Hollywood elites.

Alex Stein will have his say on that.

Next joining me now is comedian Alex Stein.

Alex, good to catch up.

Thanks for joining me.

Let's start with ICE.

Donald Trump is sending his borders are Tom Homan to Minneapolis to take control of operations there.

In the meantime, the US Border Patrol Commander Gregory Bovino is set to leave Minnesota along with some of his agents.

But Alex, I've got to say things are about to get realer with Tom Homan on the ground because that man does not muck around.

No, he doesn't.

And let's be real, if we actually look at the stats.

When Tom Holman was working for Barack Obama, he deported over four hundred thousand people in his first year, and I believe the numbers right now are similar in Donald trump first term.

So if you really look at what's happening, there's a reason for it.

Because Minneapolis is a sanctuary city, so they're not cooperating with ICE.

Here in Texas, they fully cooperate with ICE.

They let the ICE go to the criminal system and go to the court system and deport the criminals.

But you have all of these lunatics that are out there protesting to basically protect child predators and gang members.

So there's a reason why Minneapolis is having this crisis, and that's why states like Texas are not so Really, it comes down to the leadership, the local leadership and the state leadership.

Look absolutely and yeah, as I said, things about to get much more real with Homan on the ground, that's for sure.

Now, look, let's talk about Bill Maher.

I've got to say, Alex, I think he's serving up more truth bombs this time.

He's had a crack at woke Hollywood elites.

He said, quote Hollywood is sort of the epicenter of the woke left.

I don't think they're doing the Democrat Party any favors.

I think if Democrats want to win elections in the future, job one tell the celebrities to just shut the f up.

You're not You don't strike people in most of the country as sensible or in touch with reality.

Alex, He's not wrong, is he?

No?

Bill Maher is exactly correct.

I mean, everybody realizes that these Hollywood elites, they're out of touch with reality and basically whoever they endorse, people want to do the opposite, so it's actually hurting candidates by being endorsed by you know, Mark Ruffalo and some of these major celebrities.

Like you would think that Taylor Swift would actually be able to swing an election, But now people realize that these people are not like us.

They are elites.

They do not care about us.

So when they try to interject into politics, it really gives the wrong impression to all the people that are struggling to pay their bills, the people that are struggling to afford to pay their mortgages.

So, you know, Bill Maher is exactly correct.

We got to get these celebrities really out of politics, and if they do have an opinion on politics, have a correct one, have one that's based in reality and.

Not la la land la, you know, wokeness.

It's absolutely ridiculous some of the policies at these celebrities.

Want to try to energet in American politics.

Yeah.

Well, I mean it's like even with the when it was a campaign where Krmala Harris trotted out all these elites like Beyonce, I mean, they just didn't, you know, resonate with.

The average US citizens.

So I completely think that Bill Mar's onto something there.

Now, look, I've got to ask you about this because I know you love a bit of humor, Alex.

You're a comedian yourself.

I have a look at this movie, A length cartoon of Ossie politician One Nation leader Pauline Hanson.

This is part of her please explain series.

Have a look.

We're all in grave danger that our virtue signal.

This is no longer a safe space.

You speak of.

The prophecies shows one will venture out to the real world and reclaimed the victim wood from its ancient resting points and wield it's awesome power and saved the world from the impressive colonizers.

Ll do it well, accept the Court of Adventure.

Oh my god, that's so cringe, Alex.

The Australia's classification boarders slapped it with a mature Themes warning over rude humor.

Would you believe the film's already been banned at Parliament House by bureaucrats on the grounds it might cause offense to the public.

The Left have absolutely killed comedy, yes they had, But.

The more they try to ban it, it's just going to make it more popular and in reality to give a cartoon of mature rating unless it has nudity or you know, death or violence in it.

There's no way jokes should be considered violence.

But when you have a country where you know, free speech is not the same as it is here in America, and trust me, it's under fire here in America as well.

It's just a sad reality.

But I do think that the more the government and the media tried to cancel something, the more that resonates with the people.

So I think it'll be successful regardless of the censorship from the government and the ratings bureau.

Yeah, good luck trying to shut it down.

You're right, it just makes more publicity, more people want to watch it.

Alex Stein, always good to see.

Thank you so much for joining me.

And that's all for me.

Up next is Newsnight.

Good Night,