Well, it was a rather tame Week two in college football, certainly relative to Week one, but some great storylines still, some really fun games, and we got coaches squarely on the hot seat after a couple of upsets.

We got to talk about it all and Denny Hamlin's win out in Saint Louis with our good friend and weekly conversation Ryan McGee of ESPN, senior writer one half of Marty and McGee.

We got to talk about his Lane Kiffin piece as well the documentary.

We got to talk about that.

Ryan McGee is back with us on the hotline for his Tuesday conversation, Ryan, I appreciate brother, I appreciate you.

How are you this week?

I'm good.

Yeah, I was just I mean recorded the tradition for this week's Coyle of Game Day SA and and it's week three.

I feel like it's sneaked up on us, right, I mean we're already, I mean we're almost three games into this thing.

If your Week zero team, you're already three games into the season.

And that's just Tom is flying.

But it's been two great weeks, so let's get it up.

Yeah.

No, you're making me sad as you say that, because it sneaks up on us every single year.

But hey, just SEC related a good good ways from home.

But obviously it impacts the national picture and you cover the SEC quite closely.

Billy Napier and the Gators upset this week by a very good USF team.

We've learned that at this point, but we understand what the expectations are in Florida.

I was a huge Billy Napier fan a couple of years ago when he got hired there.

I wanted him in Blacksburg, full disclosure, but I did think he would work out in Florida.

Not working out right now, and I believe they faced top sixteen teams in the rankings each of the next four weeks.

How does this end and why did that happen over the weekend?

Well, I don't I think the end is inevitable and I don't think it's I don't think it's right and Honeso.

I don't think it's fair, you know, so I think people don't.

They do not understand what a disaster Billy took over that.

You know, my former coworker Dann mang left for him.

It was a mess.

And last year we Marty m McGee and SEC Nation in Gainesville week one in week three, and they lost both of those games Miami and Texas A and M and I I mean, we had to go to dinner at that Larry Director's house on a Friday night, and all those boosters were like, well, if we lose A and M he'll be out Monday.

We'll have Lane Kiffin here by any the next week.

And then what Billy did was he lost that game, but he ended up having a great season.

And I'll say this too, it was disappointing the way they lost because it was two personal fouls.

You know, the spit gets to the headlines, but it was two personal fouls on that last drive that kept USF moving.

But us that's also really good.

I mean they're two for two now playing talk twenty five teams.

Boys State was in playoff last year, got to buy and they lost, you know to USTEF and now USF could beat Miami this weekend.

So it was a wasn't as bad a loss as it looked like.

It just was an ugly loss.

And the problem is Florida's schedule is ridiculous, and so you're exactly right, I don't I don't know that Billy can get out of this.

I've known Billy since is a quarterback at Ferman.

He's a great human being.

He'll be fine whether he stays at Florida or whether he moves on somewhere else.

But it's just tough to watch because I like him personally.

Yeah, And you.

Know I mentioned a second ago that I wanted him in Blacksburg a couple of years ago.

I want to go there for a second because I know you've been there a lot.

We talked about your relationship with Shane last week.

You understand the place I really was rooting for Brent Prye.

I liked the guy a lot.

I wanted it to work out.

I think he's a great human he recruits pretty well, he gets the place.

I think he badly wants to deliver.

But I mean his record in one score games, trailing going into the fourth quarter, all of it, and then after being dismantled in the second half by Vanderbilt a couple of nights ago.

Ryan, I don't take any joy in saying this, but I'm left with no evidence that Brent Price is a good head football coach.

And I think you know we're on a very loud ticking clock until he's removed from his post.

What do you think about what Vanderbilt did to them in the second half on Saturday.

No, I just was saying, I think, I think Diego Pobby, this should be on everyone's highs and short list.

And so to get run over by him is I mean, he did at Alabama last year.

But I'm with you, and you sound you know who you sound like.

You sound like Marty Smith because Marty, you know Marty, Marty grew up in in in you know, Western Virginia.

Yeah, yeah, he's He's a hokey throw and through you know, he talks about it all the time.

You know, on our SEC show we had Pride, we had Brent Prye on Marty McGee just a couple of weeks ago.

And I'm with you.

I love him and no one loves the place more than he does.

And I love the fact that he told us the story about the desk that he has.

That's Frank Biemer's desk.

And whenever Coach Biemer comes by to see him, which is at least once a week, he said, he just gets up and says, coach you on instead at your desk.

That's how much.

He loves the place and he was there for the glory days.

But it's tough, man, because it's it's it's a program that's struggling, and it was struggling before he got there.

And I think they're still kind of trying to find their way on a lot of things.

And and I think Brent, unfortunately is I'm with you.

It feels like they should be more over the hump than they are, and everybody up there is getting pretty impatient.

Yeah.

Ryan McGee with us on the hotline is weekly Tuesday conversation.

What did you make of the way Clemson looked against Troy on Saturday with a rain delay in the middle and all the Dabo said after the fact, but also with this Georgia Tech and presumably a healthy Haines King coming up this weekend.

Well, I mean, I guess the question is, you know, you know, what do we like?

What's the grading scale?

Because it's the grading scales that whatever that was that Debo handed us the week before about fifty eights and sixties and may Brian Kelly so mad.

You know, then it's then you know, I guess they get like a twenty five.

But you know, but it's the great go Listen, the same thing happened in Columbia between the rain and the delay and all those things that happened to so many games throughout the Southeast.

It was a lethargic, feeling game.

And you know South Conin did the same thing with South Krona State.

It just it was hard to get going.

But that being said, it didn't look very inspired.

I don't think that really affects how Clemson's going to be ready this weekend.

I think that they, you know, they would treated Troy like a bye week, and they should have, but they need to be careful because I think Georgia Tech is a wrecking ball team.

I don't believe that they're good enough to win the Atlantic Coast Conference, but they are certainly good enough to ruin it for a bunch of other people.

And so yeah, I'm with you.

If if the guy, if the man is healthy, then they were gonna be tough anyway, but I think they're particularly gonna be tough now because they're kind of feeling themselves down at Atlanta right now.

How surprised are you if at all that Joey Aguilar has gotten off to the start that he's gotten off to in Tennessee.

That kid is quickly becoming a fan favorite down there.

You know, I was in the building in Knoxville back in April, and it was right after all that went down with the spring game where or you know, Nico was gone, and you know that they're in the locker room before the game and coaches, hey, by the way, quarterback's gone.

But talking to the people in the building all summer long about Aguilar and about him his preparation and about the way he plays.

And let's talking to the guys at that state.

They were all like, listen, if they let him do his thing, he's going to be great.

And he looks like a guy that's been handed a ferrari.

And the reality is, I like Nico personally.

I think that he learned from what happened.

Every time I ever had a conversation with him, I liked him a lot, But al Lark's better than he was.

The reality of Nico was was that when he looked great, he looked great, but most of the time he looked pretty pedestrian.

And I thought that Tennessee succeeded, you know, honestly, in spite of Nico A lot of times.

Last year they had the best running back in the in my opinion, and so that's why they play as well as they did.

So I think it's great.

I'm not I'm not surprised based on what the people at app State told me and what the people in Knoxville were telling me.

But I am surprised that it's happened as quickly as it has.

And he better be on it this weekend because the Bulldogs are playing angry and uh and they also have won eight in a row against Tennessee.

I'm so old when I was in school at Tennessee.

We're in the middle of a nine year winning streak against or against Georgia, and now Georgia has a chance to tie what was the what is the longest winning streak in the history of that series.

Looking ahead to this weekend a little bit, Alabama Wisconsin, What what does that matchup look like to you?

Wisconsin comes into and Oh, I still think Alabama's got the better players and the better roster, but I don't know.

I don't know what that means going into this week as Kaylyn debor figured some things out or are they in trouble this weekend.

I talked to those guys middle of last week and they were not concerned.

Like you know, sounded like coach speak.

And I like Kaylin a lot, but a lot of times everything that he says sounds like coach speak.

But I believed him when he said, listen, that was learning experience.

Our goal now is to never play that lethargic again.

They certainly didn't last weekend.

I mean, they weren't playing against a top opponent.

But it's funny because I was talking Marty about this earlier.

Alabama Wisconsin is the non sexiest sexy game this weekend, you know what I mean, Like nothing on paper years guy, I mean it's Wisconsin.

It's kind of a story of was Consint football, which is like, you know, all they ever do is win nine games a year and play on New Year's Day, but no one really clamors to watch them, right, And I think that Alabama has a chance to make a statement if they take care of what I think is a pretty good Wisconsin team.

Again, I don't know that Wisconsin can win Big Ten, but I think they can certainly be in a position to play in the championship game, and they can be in a position to ruin it for someone else, and if Alabama beats them and Wisconsin's big and strong and physical, kind of setting the tone for further SEC schedule.

What did you make of, speaking of Alabama your college game day colleague, Nick Saban, What did you make of his comments late last week about the SEC losing its geographic advantage in recruiting because of the NIL and the Big Ten's ability to outspend that conference.

Now for some of these recruits, your thoughts on that?

Now, Listen, you look at the rosters of the Ohio State team that won the national championship and the Michigan team that won the National championship, and you know who do you see?

I mean, you see all these guys that weren't just recruited out of Florida and out of Georgia and out of Louisiana.

They played football at universities in those states and then transferred.

I mean, you know I was I'm always on the field during the postgame celebration in the National championship game last year.

And there's there's Quinton Junkins that I hadn't talked to sisters at old myth and he's a hero in the nation championship game and so and you know, he grew up in Atlanta and played at Old Myth and everybody believed he was gonna be an All SEC running back.

He went to a highest state because it gave a lot of money, and guess what he got a ring.

So I don't think that sav savings usually not wrong, and I don't think he's wrong about that, And so the question is how do you counter that?

And you know, I think about Jim Harball taking Michigan on his shirtless, you know, carpetbager tour, remember that where he was doing all these camps and all the Southern states and all and stuff.

Everybody kind of made fun of it.

But next thing, you know, you take the momentum of that and add it to nil, and we all kind of rolled our eyes, like, okay, Harball, good luck with this.

Totally worked.

So, yeah, you you got to figure out a way to a get the money to spend, which they have.

But b the days of just when I played high school baseball, our coach once said we were playing the defending state champions, and he said, we're not just going to lay down because they throw their jocks on the field, which is a really crude way of saying.

You can't just show up and be the guy and just expect everybody to not pay attention.

So just showing up and saying I'm Georgia, I'm Alabama, I'm Tennessee, and you play in Memphis, in Atlanta and Florida.

You know whatever, If Ohio State shows up and they hand me a check for eight hundred thousand dollars, I'm going to Columbus.

I played with you in a media softball game a couple of years ago.

You're pretty good.

What position did you play in high school?

I was an outfielder, and I was a left handed pitcher who had natural fastball movements but did not have a lot of natural curveball movement.

So that was a problem.

Oh as a left to you, I can see that.

All right.

Let's go back to the weekend real quick.

In Saint Louis, Denny Hamlin got a big win, a couple of really timely pit stops overtakes Brad Kazlowski on the restart, fifty ninth career win for Denny Hamlin.

Of course, there's a lot of talk about the next gen Carr and the lapse lad and everything else once again.

But your thoughts on Denny Hamlin's win Sunday.

Man, that's really inconvening you from NASCAR, isn't it.

It's just, you know, it's one of the I cannot wait for us to get like five years down the road to look back on this charter thing and the lawsuits and all that, and and Denny Hammlon continues to win, and the reality is he is in such rarefied air.

You you hit fifty wins, you are next level.

You hit sixty wins, you you whatever is above Mount Rushmore is where you're headed.

And so for what he's done, I don't care if he want a championship or not.

But man, if he were to win the championship in November and they're going back to Homestead and do it in the middle of all this that's going on with the lawsuit and Michael Jordan and all that other stuff, it would be I'm already working on my treatment for a thirty for thirty.

Oh man, all right, I love it.

By the way, did you killed the Lane Kiffin thing?

Just before I let you go?

I encourage everybody to go watch it.

But what if, folks, is there something that you learned about him, or you do something you think folks should know about Lane Kiffin that we don't already know.

Yeah, and what would drop was the trailer.

I mean, you don't even know.

I was actually on a meeting today.

The one hour documentary premieres on the twenty fourth September on ESPN, and it's yeah, you know, I've known Lane since we were kids when his dad, Monty Kiffin, which is a big part of the peace, when his dad, Money Kiffin, was at mc state.

You know, I grew up in Raleigh and my dad was an a STC referee, couldn't work state games because we lived in Raleigh, and so my brother and I would play like pick up football with Lane Kiffin and the other coaches kids, and he's calling DPIs and holding and all this stuff.

And fast forward twenty years.

My brother caught it because I think that little Malley, six year old from Empty State just got the Raiders job.

And so I've known Lane a long time.

But I think that what people are going to learn about him, and this is kind of the name of the show is the many lives of Lane Kiffin.

He's not the guy you think he is now.

He was the guy you thought he was at Tennessee and at USC and you know, when he was getting chewed out by saving and even when he first started the job at all Miss.

But he's fifty years old now and he has evolved as a person.

And so what's going to be interesting now is to see if the perception of him evolves.

And you know, based on the reaction to the trailer, people still really don't like him.

So I'm curious to see how they feel when they watch the whole one hour documentary.

I take it back.

They either really don't like him or they really really love him.

Yeah, And so I'm curious to see what people's perception is why when they watched the whole show.

But he the interview we did with him was that was That was a good interviews I've ever been a part of in my career.

So I'm excited to work to get out there.

Yeah, the trailer's awesome.

Rian McGee, ESPN Senior writer.

You can see him on College Game Day SEC Nation.

Of course, his colleague and our buddy Roman Harper back tomorrow for his Wednesday conversation, and he told me to tell everybody he did not duck us.

Last week because of the Alabama loss, So I forgot to mention that.

Ryan.

I appreciate you, buddy.

Fans love you, We appreciate your time.

We'll talk to you next week.

Hey, ask Harp about him leading yoga.

Oh I saw, dude, I saw the It was incredible.

No no, no, no no.

It was all these ladies, all these co eds from Missouri were doing downward Dog.

And I look and there's there's Rose Harp leading the class.

That you need to ask him about that.

Tell him.

Make sure you say I said to ask him about it.

Oh listen, I laughed at him.

I saw the video.

I sent him a message laughing at him.

It was amazing.

Ryan, Thank you, brother.

We'll talk to you next week.

Appreciate it.

Thanks