And we are live, Mr.

Gracey show 121, I believe.

122.

121 last week.

There you go.

That's why we have Mr.

Gracey on here, man.

I would forget every time.

You remind me every time we talk about this.

I know, but I always say the wrong one.

Larry, we see you in the green room, my man.

We'll bring him on in a little bit.

Chad, I'm going to go with our intro song.

Ding, ding.

Get ready, folks.

out chad it doesn't it did not fade but that's all right you know i'm sitting here thinking man i should uh we should uh next time i'm back in york we should bring that in i'll play drums to it yes because right now it's kind of like uh 717 that's true that is true rock on uh great little show coming up here today folks we got mr larry hankin coming on uh author actor comedian you name it he's done it thank him for coming back a second time Absolutely.

It's a pleasure.

It's fun to catch up.

Got a book out.

So we'll talk about that.

I got some cool videos to play for you, Mr.

Gracie.

You know, we like to start off a little bit funny here.

I got some two chicks fighting.

Let's see them.

Let's see if I did all right this time.

Here we go.

No kicking no punching in the face what's going on Dude that went from okay to fucking crazy What's that line in the other guys?

will will farrell and um and uh marky mark mark walberg yeah movie other guys well that jumped up quickly or something like that or maybe that was no no that was actually from uh uh ron burgundy great anchor man big fight yeah and anchor man but dude i mean anyway it's funny did that lady know what she was doing she picks up a shovel and just whacks her right in the head like That's going from assault to fucking murder or attempted murder.

Anchorman, yes.

Gotta love Anchorman.

I got another one.

Chad, have you heard this milk crate challenge?

I've seen a couple of these videos and I feel like I could do it.

You mean where they stack the milk crates?

Yeah.

Oh, dude, that was going around like years ago.

Is it back?

Well, I'm just catching videos of, like I said, my feed's all fucked up, but I feel like I could do it.

So maybe next time in New York, we'll set this up and I'll...

come around and try to do it.

Yeah, I've seen too many people fall on that one.

Some of those videos are whack.

It's like, it's just fucking crumple.

Well, here we go.

Here's a couple for you.

I put the pads down, man.

Why are you just standing there?

Oh, that was another head plant, bro.

Are there any videos of people successfully doing it?

I haven't seen one.

They got it, too.

Broken back, bro.

Broken back, dude.

No way.

My God.

And he walks off like he's cool.

He's like, I'm good.

Here's the next question.

Where'd they get all the milk crates?

True.

Oh, here's one of the guys.

We used to steal those for cables.

Like every band, every local band would have milk crates with their mic cables and shit in it.

Ah, makes sense.

That was a big asset to have.

Milk crates.

Yeah, for sure.

But isn't that crazy, dude?

I feel like we witnessed some...

Broken necks there, some chest havens.

Anything like that scares the crap out of me.

Ever since I severed my tricep tendon falling in my kitchen, I don't like ice.

I don't like any slippery surfaces.

No!

I don't want to do that again.

I've got trauma.

I've got PTSD, man.

You do.

You know what I'm saying?

Once you hurt a part of your body and realize you're not as invincible as you once were, you do get a little PTSD from it.

Yeah, do you have a little bit from the car thing?

Yeah.

Yeah, for sure.

But more just, you know, can't wait to get full mobility, man.

That's the key.

But yeah, for sure.

I would have some of these if I was a tree chopper, Mr.

Gracie.

Some of these things, I'm like, what are you folks doing here, man?

Oh, yeah.

Look.

Oh, right off.

Oh, no.

There goes your line.

This goes to this guy's house, I think.

Oh.

Wow.

Oh.

That does not look healthy.

Not bad, though.

Oh, he's dropped another tree.

Put him in the ground, bro.

Oh, wow.

Oh, my God.

Oh, wow.

This just shows how delicate we are.

Yeah, there's that house.

Gone.

Oh, Jesus.

Another house.

Gone.

You always got to watch out for that fucking man.

He almost got hit with the chainsaw, bro.

Yeah.

That's called bucking.

Bucking.

Yeah.

Not fucking, bucking.

Right.

Well, here's the funny part is I'm sure these people are doing this to save themselves some money.

They're like, yeah, I could do this.

And then either they're in the hospital or they cause their house like $30 ,000 in damage.

There was definitely some professional crews in there, too, though.

True.

Just judging from the gear they had on, you'd think, you never know, man.

It's unpredictable what those trees are going to do.

That's true, because they had those bucket trucks and shit.

Normally, you know, normal people wouldn't have that.

Yeah, that guy that crushed his front Porsche, he looked like an amateur, like he was just trying to save money.

Yeah.

Not to bring up conspiracy, I want to play this video and just see what you think of this, Chad.

I've barked about this a couple times.

But just the difference between these buildings.

I'm not going to set it up.

I'm just going to play it, and then we'll talk about it.

Is this Hong Kong?

Yeah.

So look at that entire building, bro.

And then look at the fire to the right.

It's just like part of the building.

Yep.

A couple floors.

Here's the aftermath now.

Our building to the right just comes down, controlled demolition.

These buildings are still up.

And I don't know who builds better buildings, Americans or Hong Kong mesians.

I mean, I had seen videos of this, and I was thinking about this because I've seen people talking about this.

Yeah.

The outside of those buildings was covered with bamboo scaffolding.

They still that's all they use still in China is bamboo scaffolding.

So all those buildings were covered with bamboo scaffolding.

And I'm saying that because of the outside of the scaffolding burnt, but it didn't burn inside very much.

I mean, I'm just speculating.

I don't know exactly, but I don't know.

A lot of people have died, unfortunately, but that makes sense on the outside with the scaffolding.

gotcha okay so that makes sense because i was wondering how the fire jumped between buildings but if it had bamboo scaffolding on the outside that would make sense how it um yeah well way too that's what they that's they still use traditional bamboo scaffolding for like high rises and stuff it's nuts well you're not adding to the conspiracy that we fucked that building up on our own i mean i'm not denying that i mean that was a controlled demolition So I looked into because so so we do bring up some conspiracy theories on your show like that.

But I did look into the Anne Heche thing, the video where she pops up out of the thing.

Yeah.

Out of the body bag, basically.

Yeah.

So it's not a body bag.

It's a burn bag.

So she was alive there and she was brought to the hospital.

She died days later.

She was after that was like in a coma for a couple of days.

So so that's the debunked myth again, is it?

BS, I don't know.

It's still freaking crazy what happened.

Yeah.

I never saw anybody give an explanation about it.

They just, like, covered it on the news.

She pops up.

Oh, look at that.

And then she goes back in.

No one ever, like, go.

Right.

I saw everyone.

No one was ever like, oh, that was a burn bag.

Makes sense.

The only thing that made me believe it was is they were saying, like, body bags are usually dark blue or black.

They're zipped up fully.

This was kind of like a white.

you know, bag over and it was a burn bag.

So, okay, maybe, but supposedly she was working on some movie beforehand.

I don't know if it was filmed and coming out, but it was about sex trafficking.

So who knows?

Well, there's that whole conspiracy theory with Chris Cornell and, and Chester Bennington as well, that they were working on some child trafficking documentary.

Yep.

Who knows?

We don't know.

We don't know.

Yeah, just crazy stuff, man.

And you got to wonder, you know, like, is that the case?

Like, was she, you know, on the precipice of something?

Because it's just crazy that a lot of these people that, like, I forget.

There was a bunch of people, like you said, Chester Bennington, I think Chris Cornell, like all these people that.

I think Electric Gnosis talked about it where these people died with the hanging of themselves and stuff like that.

And it's like a symbol and sign.

Yeah.

Yeah.

These people were about to talk about something freaky.

But here's a video.

And they had Isaac Cappy, of course.

Right.

You brought that up on here.

And then I looked into him.

That's fucking freaky.

Crazy, right?

Yeah.

Can you remind me a little bit about that, though?

Well, he kind of came out of nowhere.

He was best friends with Seth Green forever and ever.

Yeah.

And he tells a story where he went to Seth Green's house one night and Seth Green's talking about, you know, just kids, I guess, little kids.

And he was like, what the fuck?

Like he freaked out and they started making these videos and he was talking about Spielberg, Tom Hanks, all these A -list actors that are supposedly into this.

And he says, I'm not suicidal.

The next thing you know, he's supposedly jumping off a bridge in Arizona and gets killed.

And isn't it crazy, Chad, that nobody's looking.

Looking into that shit further, like, there's so many people that say they're not suicidal and then end up dead days later, and it's just like, oh.

Yeah, I mean, like, Virginia Giuffre, too.

Giuffre, the, yeah.

Yeah.

Epstein whistleblowers.

Her book is out.

That'd probably be an interesting book to read.

True.

Did that come out before or after her death?

It's out right now, so I think, obviously, after she died last year.

Here's Mel Gibson.

talking about i think something that we're on the precipice of talking about here i was oh god i was in my my mid -20s right the first time i really came over here you know i had a whole bunch of weird paranoid suspicions about what the hell was going on because there was a lot of stuff i couldn't understand right um and nobody was really bothering to explain it to me they don't and i formed a bunch of opinions about the town and about the people in it that were like, surely that couldn't be because a whole place can't be like, you know, weird town, you know, where the stranger wanders in and all the people are in the bar and they all shut up when he looks at them and they tell you don't go out of the house on the hill.

It's like that.

And then you go away and you think, no, I was wrong.

I mean, that's insane thinking.

I'm paranoid.

I imagined that stuff.

That couldn't be the reason for why so -and -so was acting like, could it?

And then you find out later on the track that you were exactly on track with a lot of this stuff.

Not specifically on track, but that you could, that some of your worst nightmares were real at the time.

And you think, freaky.

It does.

Freaky diggy.

Yeah, I mean, he's, you know, talking, using, like, vague stuff, but you kind of get the gist of what he's saying, I think.

Yeah.

Get the gist, baby.

Well, let's speak to somebody who's actually been in Hollywood.

Let's bring on our next guest, Mr.

Larry Hankin.

What up there, Larry?

Been there, done that.

He's a pro.

Yeah, yeah.

You got to outgrow that stuff.

Larry, is that why you took yourself out of Hollywood?

You were tired of trafficking people and being part of that crew?

I was tired of being trafficked.

Oh, there you go.

Had to remove himself from that situation.

For sure.

Well, welcome back, Larry.

Good to have you on again.

Thank you.

It's great to be, it's great to be somewhere, man.

Hey, just anywhere.

I love it.

Anywhere, but here, that's my next book.

So I think the last time we spoke, Larry, we were like in the height of lockdowns and stuff.

It was, I think 20.

Yeah.

Yeah.

2021, somewhere around there.

Have you been venturing out since they've let us out and stuff like that?

Have you seen the world a little bit?

Well, Actually, no.

I mean, I haven't been in, I've been here.

I've been here.

And then every once in a while I'll venture out.

But no, I've been, I've been writing.

Not that we're going to talk about it right now, but, but I mean, I really have been writing, like I'm not kidding around.

So, so I would go, I would notice because Hollywood is really very social.

It's, it's, it's a, it's built on, it's a social city or the Hollywood that Nell was talking about.

It, it's, you know, you just have to know people.

Yeah.

That's how you get jobs and blah, blah, blah.

So I don't know that many people.

I'm not a friendly person.

You know, I, I'm, I'm not an unfriendly person.

It's just that I'm.

I'm not out there.

Sure.

And I'm mixing it up all the time.

I would go for like two, three days without saying a word.

Wow.

Yeah.

I would go out for supplies.

It gets really...

And then you just think, well, this is normal.

I guess what Mel was talking about, all of a sudden this weirdness, you see, oh, it's normal.

This is what we're doing.

This is it.

If I didn't talk for three days because I was just in the house, you know, typing or sleeping or, you know, you think, well, oh, this is normal.

Okay.

And then you go out when you finish typing and you send it away and you got to go outside.

Do you get a little overwhelmed?

Yeah.

Yeah.

I just went to a birthday party, you know, for a friend, an elder gentleman.

And I had no, I had no conversation.

You know, I had no small talk.

You know, every time I brought something up, it was something weird.

You know, what did I say?

Well, you know, it's consciousness, you know.

I mean, I don't think we can handle consciousness.

I think it was something I tried to add to the table talk.

And it just, you know, it just went, wow.

And I thought, yeah, I'm not with it yet.

I just got to give more time to come, you know, to acclimate.

Well, for the headspace that you're trying to be in though, it's kind of the best place to be like alone and bored is like a recipe for good creativity.

So if you're trying to run.

No, no.

Well, it works the other way around.

It's I'm alone and creative.

And then when I finished off the creative, then you get bored and you've already done the creative.

So you're just stuck with the board.

Yeah.

Yeah.

That's scary.

Boredom is scary to me.

I mean, it's not dangerous.

It's just, it's just weird.

It's just, I have nothing to do.

Yeah.

Well, I just finished a book.

I'm just like tired.

I just went.

So I, you go out and you ride your bike, you know, that's what you do.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And you slowly acclimate.

I went away, you know, these Comic -Con things.

I go to Comic -Con, you know.

So you see a lot of that kind of gets you back into socializing.

Sure.

Thousands of people come and you sign your name.

But also the other actors who come from all over the country, and not just from Hollywood.

You know, they live other places.

Right.

And so you're hanging out with at least your...

You're, you're, what are you?

You're Karas.

There you go.

And so you can, you can talk.

And even if you get, you know, you talk a little weird because you're not used to socializing.

They totally understand that they get it.

You know?

Yeah.

Fine.

It seems like Larry, they're expecting more from people nowadays.

Like you, you sat there, you wrote two books and stuff.

It's like, it seems like they want content kind of cranked out.

uh almost deadly from people nowadays are you finding that like that that's the human thing that's the that's the point i'm making about consciousness we can't handle it it's too much it's overwhelming just consciousness i mean that's what we bring to the table of the universe consciousness right and we're just getting you know it's just it's like okay give me a cup of coffee and you just pour it and you just keep pouring and it's going over the cup it's going all and you're just standing there pouring you know okay okay and then if you're locked away in this place called your home and you you're writing for three days four days at a time well okay the pouring has stopped you know and then you go outside or you you turn on the television or you go on the internet and it's too much okay just back off man right reality just back off just give me a second you know but no so i think it it doesn't bode well you know i mean animals have a certain amount of consciousness and then they go okay you know this is my This is my area, and, you know, we'll just don't come in my area, okay?

Just don't back off.

You can come to animals got it down.

They know when to stop, you know?

Human beings are just, let's invent something else.

Oh, AI?

No, no, not AI.

Yeah, let's do something.

More than AI.

Yeah, we're going to invent another consciousness to bombard us.

Well, no, we're trying to get rid of the consciousness by giving it to these machines.

Let me just rest.

And you think for a while, AI.

But it's just, I don't know.

Have you messed with any AI?

Larry, do you talk to chat GPT at all?

Have you tried to have any conversations to see?

No, because I really can't get the hang of it.

You got to get the hang of it.

Even if you want to be against it, you got to get the hang of being against the chat box or the social media.

I mean, it's just weird.

I guess maybe it's always weird, but I just don't see how we can keep going.

See, because basically, I don't think anybody...

Well, maybe they do have it in the back of their mind, and that's feeding their psychosis of fear and paranoia, which is, hey, this is the, we're on this planet.

Right.

And like, well, okay, let me go back to the Bible.

Did Jesus, when did Jesus know the world was round?

You know?

And if he knew the world, did Jesus know the world was round, not flat?

Because the world was flat back then.

You know, everybody thought the world was flat.

So God, he's the son of God.

God, is this a joke?

In other words, he says, no, they don't know it's round.

Let's just watch this.

You don't think he took any of his heavenly knowledge about the world being round?

He kept it to himself.

I think it's a put -on God.

He's not fucking with us.

That's what he's doing.

He's having fun.

But they don't know it's round.

Okay, so now we got it round.

And all of a sudden we realize, oh man, this is it.

This planet is it.

The nearest place we can go to after all this has arrived, this bullshit, is 100 million light years away.

Yeah.

If you want to go someplace else, it's going to take a couple of generations to get there.

Yeah, that's not traveling the Atlantic.

I think we all really know that way deep down.

But we don't express it or talk about it.

What we do is reality is an avoidance mechanism.

That's what it is.

You don't think about the fact that, you know what?

Animals stop breeding when, you know, except rats, they just keep breeding and breeding until they start fighting with one another.

I mean, if you keep rats in one place long enough, you know, and they keep breeding and breeding.

they'll start fighting with each other which is kind of normal you know there's not enough food or room to go around so i just keep on seeing because that's what you think about when you're sitting and not talking to anybody for three or four days you think about you know back in the day you know like piltdown man and stuff i mean we you know 300 000 years ago we had about the same brain we had now which is we kind of filled it out With AI and Ferris wheels and vacation boats.

That's the craziest.

I don't, I've been daring myself to just, yeah, I mean, that's like super reality.

It's just games.

It's a boat that you go out and you just do weird games.

you know, hang out from the side of the boat and swing around.

Yeah, because, well, what if the rope breaks?

Well, we just keep going.

It's a party boat, man.

No, no, man overboard.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Okay.

But if you go over here, you can stand on your head and juggle with your feet.

Yeah, just try that.

Okay, but the guy back there, he just fell in the water.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

We know, we know.

I mean, it's expected.

Right.

Give me another pina colada.

We'll go back and get him.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So, I mean, that's where my head goes to.

Like I said, I went to a birthday party two, three days ago, and I had no conversation.

And the host is not one to, like, It was his birthday.

He found somebody to talk to and he just talked to me.

Screw the party.

You're all on your own.

No, no.

You got to organize it.

I don't have anything to talk about.

Larry, are you comfortable?

I'm going to go home and write.

Are you comfortable in silence?

If you're at a place like that.

Yeah, I'm comfortable with me.

I like me.

Sure.

I can, you know, and I like other people.

It's not like, you know, but sometimes it's hard for me to connect it, you know, and then there's groups that you have your carousal and you go and you, you talk with your friends, but in Hollywood, more than any other place, they like the, they like the, what I call huddling up.

And I get this from being on stage.

You go to a thing.

So it's crowded.

You go to like a TV show or a movie.

You go to the set.

And, you know, there's a crew of people.

There's the directors, the technician.

There's the other actors.

So it's a bustling place.

And it's kind of a false security.

But you're socialized.

It's a social place.

Making movies is really weird.

It's social.

Because there's hundreds of people walking around and carrying things and lighting things.

Even on a sitcom, you know, and you got the audience coming in.

But everybody has their own job.

Like when I have to act, I can't pay attention to all that stuff.

You know, I just got to boop, you know.

So then there's that, you know, and you're trying to, like, okay, when I audition, you know, you're auditioning with about.

At least 15 other people, some for other roles, some for your roles.

But I have dyslexia, so that kind of gets in the way.

Dyslexia, it just means that it's very hard for me to put information together really fast and then make decisions on it.

I can absorb it.

I get it.

I see what you're saying.

But it'll like take me a while to, I mean, if it's complex, like a movie set where there's a lot of things going on and it's all got to fit together and everybody knows their job.

So what I have to do is I have to really concentrate on what my job is because I like to, you know, I'm a social animal.

I like to talk to people.

But if I talk to too many people before I have to act.

that concentration just...

Sure.

And so it's...

People must think I'm weird.

When I go to audition, I try to...

But everybody else is talking because I can't understand that.

I wish I could.

Right.

I really wish I could.

You know, it's a social thing, you know, and they talk and blah, blah, blah.

And okay, you know, Harry, you're going next.

Okay, up, boom.

And he puts on his acting thing and he goes in.

Yeah.

I can't do that.

I have to, you know, what they call circle, you know, just concentrate.

So everybody's talking and I'm just sitting there and people want to talk to me and I'm trying to do it.

So I'm trying to not be social and I don't want to embarrass.

And I think that's kind of the world.

Yeah.

People, because we're all, as I, when I write, one of the things I wrote was God was talking to people.

You know, it's a whole big story about God talking to people and his confusion about what's going on.

You know, and he's trying to like straighten it out with a human being.

Although I haven't talked to anybody in a long time.

I had these thoughts.

Yeah.

So he was saying, well, I mean, his whole point was, you know, that saying, God knows.

You know, God knows.

no i don't i don't you know and uh i'm here to tell you that you know so it's just well you know what about i was that's where i got the you know with the where is the earth flat and were you keeping that from us right or you didn't know either all right he said well you know god knows god knows i'm here to tell you i don't know you know there's just too much to know you people think you know hey you know your parents your parents when you were like five six seven eight five six seven you thought they knew everything yeah well it turns out no they didn't know everything as a matter of fact 90 percent of the time they were lying or just putting you on yeah pretending they're making it up exactly or making it up you know he says well yeah think of me like that i don't know everything you know i was going for something else really the creation thing has got Out of hand.

It blew up.

It's, you know, curdling, coagulating.

Humans had free will.

They had a mind of their own.

That's the problem.

Free will.

That is the problem.

We don't know how to...

That's really the consciousness, free will.

Totally.

That's what I'm thinking.

Out there, there is other, you know, like beings or whatever we are, you know, sentient beings, you know, whatever.

But...

I heard we're just a computer in a computer.

We're a simulation.

We're not even real.

Well, then there's that whole theory.

But I was thinking that they've invented something.

It's kind of like DDT for bugs to spray.

The spray can.

For consciousness.

It kills free will and consciousness.

Anything that has free will and consciousness.

No, man, it's too much.

It's too much.

I love it.

You kind of bring up a point.

I remember like back in the day, they used to have like Monday morning, like around the water cooler talk and everybody was kind of on the same page.

They watched the same thing.

Well, see, that's, that's what I do.

You put your finger, I'll watch football for a week, you know, or sports.

Well, I used to be a standup comedian and that's really what I did.

I mean, there was no philosophy to it.

I just figured out a way I could keep.

my sanity by flying to all these different places and talking to different people who, like, I just came back from Akron, Ohio for Comic -Con.

Oh, I'm sorry to hear that.

And they are totally different than Hollywood.

You forget that they don't have this bullshit talk about movies and science.

No, they have...

family and friends talk and there's woods there yeah not forests woods there's no woods in hollywood and los angeles there's trees but they're all planted in a row along the you know they're uh horticulturalized yes there's no woods well you're just riding along in this Just a stand of trees all around.

It was fall, so some had...

You don't see that in L .A.

I live near the beach.

It's sand and water or palm trees in a row.

Everything is in a row.

Yeah, for aesthetics.

And they have people coming around because I live on the sixth floor in an apartment house here.

So I look out, and there's palm trees out there.

But the other day I looked out and there's guys, like you saw the guys cutting down trees.

There's guys pruning the forest out there.

They're up on the top.

By the way, I thought that opening sequence was really cool with all the trees falling on the houses.

No, no.

You don't understand.

No, if you're going to cut down a tree.

move the house out of the way.

Right.

Exactly.

Move the house.

Think.

Think.

You got to think, people.

Nobody's thinking before moving nowadays, Larry.

Yeah, right.

Yeah, it's just, so it's hard when you go to, say, Akron, Ohio, and they're just people, you know, and they're, you know, they go to, you know, bowling and stuff like that, and they go to them.

So, Wait, so they're not vampires just looking to get the next best thing from you and just something from you?

They're actually people that like to...

They just want an autograph, and then they're on their way.

Well, what I do is, because it was driving me crazy, I would fly to, you know, Akron, and then I'd fly to Hollywood, but then I'd fly to Tennessee, and then I'd fly to Louisiana, you know, doing nightclub stuff, you know, stand -up.

So what I would do is as soon as I got off the plane in the city that I was going to be in for like at least a week, maybe two weeks, you know, opening.

What I would do is I would go and I buy two or three of the local newspapers.

I would just read them, especially the sports section.

I would go, you know, what football team is from here?

Oh, good.

So I'd have conversation, you know, and I would go to a bar and hang out, go to a coffee house.

And just the day before I go to the nightclub and, you know, and I pick up new information and new shtick and stuff like that.

But also it just like settles me into where I am.

Yeah.

And you go to another town and it's the headlines are totally different.

They're not.

like the new york times and no the local papers yeah yeah and then i can focus in uh so that's what i would like to do i guess when i go on auditions you know they have like a little local newspaper what you can talk about about this part what everybody else is here for oh yeah i went to one audition though sometimes that doesn't work uh escape from alcatraz i had a really big part in that.

But the weird thing about it was, that wasn't what I auditioned for, and that's not what I thought I was...

That's not what I thought I was auditioning for.

I thought I was auditioning for a small part.

So it freaked me out when I found out what was going on.

Again, I get freaked out easy, but I'm cool.

I don't go berserk.

I don't go berserk.

I just, I'm freaked out.

Yeah, I just went for a conversation.

And in the conversation with the director, Don Siegel, for Escape from Alcatraz, my agent said, just go down there.

It's a big movie.

It's a Clint Eastwood movie, you know.

And they're closing down the auditions in an hour.

So get down there right now, whatever you're doing.

Now, auditions to me, just generally, are an interruption of my day.

You know, it's...

It's something, hey, go down there.

And they give you sides.

But you only have a couple of hours.

With dyslexia, I need a couple of days, really.

That's a quick question, Larry.

So is that how auditions work?

You just find out a couple hours beforehand?

Like, hey, by the way, there's an audition here.

Like, you don't have a couple days with the material to kind of get into character?

Well, no.

I mean, if it's a big part.

And this was, you know, in the beginning, but as the parts got bigger, another problem came up.

So it was a small part, you know, just a walk on or, you know, you only have one scene or four pages, which is, you know, maybe three pages, which is one scene.

Yeah, you can memorize it.

And generally actors can do that.

That's what makes actors different from other people generally.

like uh the the the highest point of that would be soap operas no soap operas they give it to you the day you're gonna do the show wow longer short man yeah because you're on a soap operas every day yeah so they're writing every day so they can't give you a week ahead you you've got to do four days or five days before you get to the end of the week so yeah you get your part i did i did some soap operas and it just uh it was very difficult for me i could imagine yeah uh because of the i need time for my in inside brain i understand what the part is i can read it i can tell you what it's about but to memorize that if you take the script away then i need a day for my inner brain to put that information in the order it came in Once it gets in there, it just gets scrambled.

That's why a lot of artists, it's really great.

Because when you scramble it, you get new different connections with the same information.

And that turns you on.

That's how you can write a story.

You're making it up, man.

But it has to be in order.

What you're doing is taking separate things and fitting them together in the right order.

My head doesn't do that fast.

Sure.

That's what actors can do.

Especially soap opera actors.

They can just read.

They can just almost scan it.

Like, that's what great actors do.

Like Clint Eastwood, I would watch him.

He'd just pick up the script.

I got it.

Okay, let's go.

Wow.

Whoa, yeah.

It just blows up.

No, I need like two or three days.

Sure.

I have it down now.

I mean, I've been dyslexic all my life.

The problem was that dyslexia wasn't discovered until I was like 33.

Yeah.

They didn't know.

I was just stupid.

My father used to call me stupid.

Hey, stupid, come here.

Because, oh, man, I went to a therapist, you know.

He just said, your father what?

Wow.

Yeah.

I mean, he just.

It's a different time.

I was talking about my, you know, my dad.

And the therapist started to laugh.

I mean, that was like something that blew my mind.

But, you know, it's a life changing.

Somebody just says one thing and you go, whoa.

And it just changes your whole paradigm.

Wait, so Larry, your parents, your parents aren't supposed to call you stupid.

They did that to me my entire life.

You're blowing my mind here.

Well, yeah, that's what I thought.

You know, but I felt guilty about it.

What he would do is he just fucked up my life.

What he did was he would test me.

I was learning to read, so I was a slow learner.

I liked to read, but I was just a slow learner.

So he would want me to read faster.

So he'd test me.

He'd say, read this page.

He said, I'm going to test you on it.

Just read it.

So it didn't take me a while.

I'd have to read it over and over again.

So I kind of, you know, okay, he's going to test me.

And he said, are you finished yet?

No, no, yet, yet.

Boom!

And he hit me.

oh hey come on dad uh and he said no you got to read it faster so what i figured out was uh you know kids logic i'm talking about you know seven or eight or you know um or whenever you learn to read hey um he i would i couldn't read fast enough i would only get like maybe a third of the stuff right but you know and he was just time's up you know okay blah blah blah So what I did was I learned to scan.

So I would just scan the whole thing.

Did you finish?

Yeah.

Now that way I figured out I could get about 50 % right before I got hit.

So between a third and 50 and half, I figured I'll scan.

So that's what I do.

And now I do it as a habit.

I mean, it's just, if you give me something to read, even if I try to read it, what I'm doing is scanning.

Wow.

So that's amazing, Larry.

So you, you actually retain more by just scanning a document rather than actually physically reading word for word.

No, no, no.

I didn't say that.

I said I could scan and get more information than if I tried to read the whole page when I could only read a third before he'd say time's up.

Oh, got it.

So I couldn't.

And if I did read the whole thing in the time he.

give him or if he gave me more time to read the whole page that didn't mean that i retained sure what i because it was too too much and i my brain couldn't put it in the right order inside if you let me no i'm sorry go ahead no that that was all if he let me read it and gave me a little time i could answer all the questions because i read it and i got calm.

That was the other thing.

So the psychiatrist said to me, the therapist said to me, because I was telling him about my father and I was telling him about, you know, he would be testing me and he'd call me stupid all the time.

And I believed him, see, because I had dyslexia.

There was something wrong.

I mean, I was eight years old.

So as I'm telling the therapist, he started to laugh.

And I'm going, what are you laughing at right and and he would go you don't think what you're telling me about your father telling you you were stupid you don't think that's funny i don't know man i'm sitting here pouring my heart out you know i took therapy very seriously yeah i'm pouring my heart out to you and and you're laughing and he goes you don't think what you're telling me is funny i said no i don't he says yeah sure You're going to have to keep coming here until you do.

Whoa.

Yeah.

Boom.

Got it.

There you go.

That changed my way.

I thought about a lot of things.

Here we all thought he was being insensitive and doing a technique on you.

Yeah.

He's basically saying, come here until you realize.

He was kind of cool.

After that, I thought my therapist was really cool.

Yeah.

I like that.

Yeah.

Sometimes that clicks in.

But it does with actors.

Like Bryan Cranston.

I have worked with a lot of really A -list people.

And if you go up on your lines.

I went up on my lines with Bryan Cranston when I was doing Breaking Bad.

And Bryan Cranston, I really, I'm filled with awe.

I'm a fan of his.

No, I don't want his autograph.

I mean, that's weird.

Fans are weird.

Fans come from another planet.

They could.

They could.

Okay.

You know, fine.

I'm in the business.

That's part of it.

Okay.

But Bryan Cranston is awesome because I saw him do one thing.

It wasn't a, it was a.

It was a ceremony for a person who had died.

But he was a big deal before he died.

He was a writer.

And he had given a speech one time, which became a famous speech.

I don't remember who it was.

There was nobody I had ever heard of.

But it was famous.

So Brian Cranston, I didn't realize this, I was watching it and it was televised.

And Brian Cranston came out.

And he gave this famous speech that this person who had died wrote.

You know, like you read the Lincoln's Gettysburg Address or something.

Four score and seven years ago.

Don't make me, Larry.

And, you know, I didn't know this person.

I never heard of the person who died.

And I never heard of this speech.

But this is, ladies and gentlemen, Bryan Cranston.

And he just came out and he stood.

He was dressed like the guy in like 50s outfit, you know, clothes and everything.

And he just stood there and he gave this speech.

Now, I've talked to Bryan Cranston.

I've acted with Bryan Cranston.

And no matter how much I stared, it was like a 10 minute, 15 minute speech.

I couldn't find Bryan Cranston.

It was just this guy.

It was blowing my mind, man.

And he wasn't doing anything.

Bryan Cranston wasn't.

He just was standing there and he was giving this speech like he was that guy.

Wow.

I mean, it was eerie.

Wow.

To me as an actor, I thought, boy, if I could, man, if I could get into a part that deep, I couldn't find Bryan Cranston.

Okay.

So I'm acting with Bryan Cranston and I'm in awe of this guy.

Just from that one performance.

But I've seen a lot of this stuff.

And I went up on my line.

So he says, cut.

Okay, let's do it again.

Okay, fine.

Blah, blah, blah.

I was selling him that big magnet that he was going to take out in the junkyard.

So I was going, blah, blah, blah.

And I go up on my line a second time.

And he stops and he goes.

Hey, Larry, get your lines down.

You know, not angry.

Just, hey, you know.

Okay, fine.

All right, take three.

Blah, blah, blah, blah.

And I go up again on my lines.

And he just didn't say anything.

But he was really angry.

He was angry.

Now, that's a part of his thing, the acting, the character.

So I thought, well.

Maybe he's got that ready.

And now I've given him, now he can use it on me.

But he just looked at me and I said, okay, excuse me.

Can I just talk to the director?

So he said, yeah, go ahead.

So I said, okay.

And I said, I want to talk to you.

Can I, he said, come here.

Yeah.

So I go over to him and I say, look, you know, I just went up on my lines twice, three times.

And Brian is really angry and he's making me nervous.

Now I'm, you know.

What should I do?

I don't know what to do.

So the director says, okay, there's two things.

One is, Larry, all actors go up on their lines at some time or another.

It's normal.

Two is...

we're losing the light get the fuck back in there and screw barbara brian cranston let's go we're losing the light oh wow boom and he just shocked that fear or whatever into a nice shot of adrenaline i went in there boom boom boom boom boom okay thank you wow so yeah but that to me was my dyslexia just you know i was a little too nervous and it just took over You know, but the director is so cool.

He is.

Yeah.

Snaps you right back into it.

Brian Cranston, get back in there.

We're losing the light.

So Larry, do you find more enjoyment in, in writing now?

Is that why you're kind of making the transition kind of from acting into writing and you find it easier to deal with the dyslexia or something?

The typewriter doesn't get angry.

Ah.

It just lets me erase.

Right.

Type it over.

Do you use a typewriter?

Throw it in the waste paper basket.

If it gets too uppity.

Yeah, sure.

It's nice.

It's calm.

It's calming.

It's calming.

I sometimes, if I don't work for too long, that's why I, the boring thing.

I don't get like bored, depressed.

I don't go that way.

What I do is I get a headache.

I just get a headache.

I must be really bored.

If I get really bored, I just have to get a headache.

But if I just sit down in front of the typewriter and start typing, it goes away.

Wow.

Well, what if it's just, oh, I see.

If I don't have a focus on something, you know, either, you know, writing, sex, or my part, I, you know.

I need focus.

Yeah.

That's what my brain is telling me.

Hey, you know, think of something, anything, do something, go out, ride a bike, you know, jump off a cliff, something.

Don't just sit there staring at this wall.

Okay.

Well, I get amazed.

I get amazed at people who could just sit down at a computer screen or a typewriter and just start typing and writing because...

Oh, no, no, I can't do that.

I just have to look at the typewriter and get ready to type.

And then I can, you know, my brain already is starting to go, oh, we're going to think of something here.

And then I'll just, you know, blah, blah, blah.

Okay, and a story will come.

Wow.

I'm not worried.

See, in other words, I have no fear of not writing.

sure that you know flow is i can go there it'll take me a little a little while i mean like a minute or two right okay so and then i'll get into oh i i guess what my dyslexia is thinking oh he's trying to put shit together let's try that you know get get with him you know that's cool i got a thought here and a thought there boom boom oh wow this would give you a great great story you know and then i'll uh then the headache will go away you know and it won't come back for a while maybe a day or two but it's like a little signal that i'm i'm bored but i that's as far as i go with it the headache and it's not it used to be until i found out pardon me what it was that if i if i just focus on doing something you know i help somebody called somebody or i just go down and read my mail you know whatever uh you know way even wasting time is in a way of focus i guess that's what wasting time is it's giving you ways to focus on do you waste time online at all like do you go on youtube or tiktok i think the the worst thing for humanity and consciousness is the internet social media i think yeah it's the worst thing that man has come up with and ai is going to be even worse oh yeah i mean there's just too many choices and it's so it's too easy to hack my credit cards truly there's that because of digital you know yeah i i'm starting to think i'm just writing checks i i'm starting to throw away my credit cards and getting But I'll go on the Internet like to talk to you guys.

This is a good use of it.

Gives me focus, you know, and there's information here.

But even it's something to do.

It's a focus.

It's just too much.

Once I get off your program, no, I'll go to, you know, my mail, my bank account, podcasts.

I've stopped buying stuff on the internet.

I just hacked too many times.

And also, even if it's a scam, 90 % of it is probably even more.

But 90 % is information I don't need.

Not only that.

On the real, Larry, your kid is being kidnapped in Africa and we need your social security number.

To let him out.

So you can just let us know.

Oh, sure.

Wait a minute.

Hold it.

Would you like my bank?

Yeah.

Bank check number?

Yes, that's necessary.

Would that get the kid out faster?

By the way, I don't have any children.

But no, no, let's keep going.

Your nephew, maybe?

Maybe it's a nephew.

Larry, back to your creative process.

Are you ever walking around and get an idea and have to sit down and get it out?

Or is it you have to sit down and then?

No, I think that's somebody's idea of what writers do.

People who don't write have weird ideas about what creativity is.

Creativity is like conversation.

It just comes up.

I was talking to a friend the other day, a buddy who I grew up with.

So we can talk about anything.

There's no, we're not at a loss for conversation.

We can talk about anything.

And then we'll agree on something and then, you know, we'll go like that and, you know, go all over the place with it.

So I said, hey, you know, that's a great idea.

We were talking about old age, old age, getting old.

And what are you going to do about it?

You know.

Well, I'm going to die about it.

That's what I'm going to do.

What are you going to do about it?

So, so that I got, you know, and then I said, and he said, what do you mean?

I said, well, what we're talking about, you know, old age.

I think that's a good idea for a movie or, you know, something, sitcom, whatever.

And so then I started thinking about it for the, you know, I had something to think about.

So I started thinking about it.

And I would mention it to this person and say, no, that's not a good idea.

Okay, cool.

That's not for you.

That's the other thing about Hollywood.

Not only do you have to have a great idea, you have to find somebody who also thinks it's a great idea.

Not everybody thinks what you think is a great idea is a great idea.

Sure.

Yeah.

A lot of people think it's probably a pretty...

fucking stupid idea if you ask me and you have to deal with that you know this this rejection thing right uh so i'm inured by the rejection i've gotten here's the average it's um i think it's one out of ten is a general average you audition for 10 things i mean and then as you get more and more popular as you become more and more an actor it's less and less but in the beginning It's a crapshoot and you got to get used to it.

And it took me a long time because I never wanted to be an actor.

I just found out I could do it.

And people, because I was a stand -up comedian and I was an improver, which is not the same as acting.

Improv is not the same as acting.

People would ask me to act because they saw me improv -ing and thinking, oh, he's a funny guy.

And I thought...

Oh, well, here's a lot of money.

It's probably the same.

And it wasn't.

But even so, I would get one out of five.

Nice.

Because my agents would send me up for stuff that I was right for.

Sure.

But sometimes I wasn't right for it.

But the creative process is what you were talking about.

Sometimes I'll go for a long time.

Well, I finished writing this book here, Poor Barnum's Journal.

The word poor.

It's weird what people focus on about what part of your idea.

Poor Barnum's Journal.

I just finished it.

It just came out last week, and I discovered.

that the reason that I was having a hard time getting it out there, I'm still hanging with it, is the word poor.

That's not a good word to have on your title.

Who knew?

You know, acting is not like book writing.

Writing is not like acting.

The book business is not like show business.

And it takes you a way longer time to become a good writer than a good actor, or even an actor or a writer.

You said something earlier, Larry, that I thought was kind of cool.

You said acting and improv are different.

And I agree with you that.

I think that if you're an actor, you can't always do improv.

But I think if you're somebody who does improv, you could always be an actor.

What do you think of that?

Yeah, I find, again, you have to deal with what you're dealt.

And the cards I'm dealt with is dyslexia.

Now, there's workarounds.

I can fake it.

I can do a lot of things.

But the real deal is I have dyslexia.

There's no cure for dyslexia.

There's just workarounds or ignoring it.

Even when I left home, I kind of ran away from my parents at a young age.

I went away to college and that was the last I saw them.

I had a very bad upbringing.

I just wanted to get, I wanted to, ever since I was 15, I just was thinking of running away.

That was my whole point.

Just getting out of here.

And you did it.

That's kind of cool though.

Say that again?

I said, and you did it and it worked out for you, which is cool.

Well, yeah, but every once in a while, like for instance, I didn't get along with my father at all.

And I was just talking to my sister and we both agreed.

I was talking to her a couple of days ago.

But we both agreed that, you know, dad was just not cool at all.

He's just a bad dad.

And so she agreed with me.

But I didn't know that he was a bad dad.

At eight years old, you think it's your fault.

Yeah, you just think that's how it is.

So, but, you know, it comes up every once in a while, the dyslexia.

And I either have to do a workaround.

Like a workaround, very simple.

As the parts got bigger, I just told my agent to have them send me the finished draft first.

So that was part of the contract.

But everybody sort of knew that when you send the final draft to the suits, so they can okay it and say, yeah, okay, go shoot it.

They would send me the script, too.

So I'd always get the script a couple of days beforehand.

So that was a workaround.

You know, Henry Winkler has dyslexia.

He chose a different workaround.

He hired people to feed him the lines and stuff like that.

But that was because he was on the sitcom as a regular.

Right.

So he was making enough money to hire.

people to help him with his dyslexia sure i i just got the script earlier and worked on it harder for a longer time until finally excuse me i did it that's what she said joke you said i worked on it longer and harder so i had to go there that's what you said yeah uh so um uh but then when the parts started to get really big like i was starting to get co -star I had to turn them down because the lag time was just too long.

I couldn't memorize each scene every day.

Cause it takes me a week.

I even mathematically worked it out.

It takes me four.

It takes me five days to memorize a four page scene.

It gives me another person.

It takes me, I need the entire week.

And now in sitcoms, they would give you.

Just normally you would get your part like Mr.

Heckles.

Yeah.

On Friends.

I would get that a week in advance.

You know, even if sometimes they didn't finish the script until two or three days before the shot.

Sure.

But, you know, for me, I mean, it wasn't because of me.

It was just they finished the script a week ahead, luckily for me, and I needed the script a week ahead.

So Mr.

Heckles was fine.

But like in a movie.

I was like getting, starting to get co -star parts where I would audition and get the part and then I'd have to turn it down when I saw, whoa, you know.

It's 30 pages.

Yeah.

Well, you know, read the screenplay, you know, and then I, then I was one, you know, cheap films, you know, 300.

What is it?

We, those.

They weren't weekend wonders, really.

But, you know, shot an entire feature shot in five days.

Oh, wow.

Those kind of things.

Yeah.

No way I could do it.

But even bigger parts where it was like an hour TV, you know, series.

No, it was a lead and a co -star in a TV series.

Yeah.

I couldn't do it.

I would have to turn it down.

And that's why I left.

I took it off.

I have a question for you because Mr.

Heckles was one of the most beloved characters on there besides the six friends.

Was there ever any talk of maybe making that a bigger part?

No, because really, I didn't get along with anybody there.

I mean, I'm getting along with you guys because...

I like you guys and you guys like me.

So I believe, you know.

And also, you know, I watch your intro and blah, blah, blah, blah.

But I never got along with any of them.

I mean, for different reasons.

I think Monica, the ditzy one, you know, the one.

I think that's Monica.

Yeah, I got along with her fine because she's a good person.

She's just a nice person.

She's a whole person.

Yeah.

You know, she's an actress, but she's a human being.

I think that was Phoebe.

She's just, you know, conversational and, you know, blah.

Hello.

You know, good morning.

You know, oh, yeah.

And when we acted together, but everybody else, I didn't have anything.

And then, you know, I never got along with the producers at all.

I don't get along as easy with people as, you know, you, you know.

You people, you people are paid to get along with me.

Yeah.

Well, it seems like you're respecting.

If somebody is not respecting you, you're not going to.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So, so yeah, I had a big fight.

I, I've had, I wrote a book.

See, this is the book about all that, about, about showbiz.

This is, this is that because everybody doesn't know my name, but they go, Oh, you're that guy.

You're that guy from that program.

He's from friends, you know, that guy, but it's, you know, Oh, Bill, the guy from, From Breaking Bad, that guy.

That guy, yeah.

Perfect title.

Yeah, well, I thought, you know, it's a better title.

And it's really a good book.

This has got, on the back here is all the reviews.

It's got incredible reviews.

Everybody, it's a well -written book.

But it's 45 of my biggest roles on TV and in movies.

There's Mr.

Heckles, there's old Joe.

There's Tom Pepper from Friends, you know, the Kramer thing.

You know, see, there's certain things that if I focus on and don't, because in other words, my focus far outweighs my dyslexia.

In other words, it doesn't even come.

I just so love this.

There's no way I'm going to forget this.

There's just no way.

And Tom Pepper, who imitated Kramer.

That was the only role where that happened.

Or I thought, holy cow, this is what actors must do all the time.

I wanted that part.

I never wanted a part more than Tom Pepper.

I wanted to imitate Kramer.

Because Michael Richards was a gift to me.

But a gift to everybody.

That's one of the greatest characters ever was, to my mind.

A secondary character.

You know, not the star, but a second banana.

That's what they called him.

Yeah.

Second banana.

He's a great, great character.

And it was in his bailiwick.

I used to watch him on Friday, the show Fridays.

And he was just, I think, a head in a TV screen.

And he was hysterical.

He just filled whatever you gave him.

Until, of course, he lost it as a nightclub comedian.

But anyway, we were friends.

We were friends.

That's why I know so much about him.

Because we looked alike, and we would always see each other in auditions.

We would audition for the same parts.

We even played brothers in a sitcom about a restaurant.

I don't know.

Oh, wow.

I don't remember the name of it.

It was a restaurant sitcom years ago.

But we played brothers who robbed the place.

We were going to rob this restaurant.

So, you know, we got to hang out together and, you know, work out brothers things.

It was really great working with him because he knows comedy.

Now the difference, and we had arguments, because he has a different value of comedy.

He likes to go over the top.

And I like to go under the top or under the character.

I like to force the audience to come to me.

Okay.

But he likes to get in the face of the audience.

And it works because he does it perfectly.

He's got that down.

He doesn't have to even try.

You know, coming through the door.

Yeah.

Iconic.

Yeah.

And when I was auditioning, that's all they did is tell me that Larry David, it's all he did was, you know, there was Seinfeld was at the audition and there was a lot of people auditioning for that part.

There was Seinfeld, there was Costanza in there, you know, in the audition room, in the room.

The director.

So the director is, oh, you can tell always.

There's always four people, always.

But you can always tell who the director is.

He's the worst dressed guy.

They always, you know, wearing a T -shirt, jeans, you know, sweatshirt.

He's picking his nose.

That's the director.

That's the director.

And then there's also a guy in a suit.

Oh, that's the guy from upstairs.

You know, he's the finance guy.

You know, he's looking out for you.

Can't curse.

You can't don't pick him.

We don't like him.

upstairs we don't like him what do you mean you don't like him he's a great man you know so that's a suit and then there's the star is just sometimes there like Seinfeld was there Costanza just liked being there he just yeah and then there was a this stranger who I never met who kept on telling me uh he would just he wouldn't say anything this stranger this bald guy he would just he would just sit there and watch and then um they would say thank you and there's a way of saying thank you where it means get out of here we're finished with you right okay and you know blah blah blah blah blah all right now could you do it again but uh do it you know you know as if you had measles okay uh so you do it that way and this guy just sat there and then and then they would say okay um thank you and that's a signal too thank you yeah Get out.

And I would go.

And in Seinfeld, there was a door you came in where all the people sat and they say, you know, and they open the door next.

And then you come in, who's next?

You sign in, you know, next.

And you'd go in, but there was another door out.

So you wouldn't go in the same place that you came in, go out the hall.

So as I, thank you.

And as I would go to the door to go out, right before I put my hand on the, because I auditioned five times and it happened.

every time.

Just before I put my hand on the doorknob, he'd say, hold it, go in, go out and come in the door like Kramer.

And he would point to the door I came in.

And that's the first time he would speak.

Five times I auditioned.

And every time he did the exact same thing.

So he'd say, hold it, go out the door and come in like Kramer.

And this is Larry David you're talking about, right?

What?

This is Larry David you're talking about?

Well, I didn't know who it was.

Oh, okay, you didn't know who it was.

So, you know, so, yeah, it was Larry David, but I didn't know that.

Right.

But he's telling me to do this every time.

That's all he said.

Everybody would, there was conversations, hey, that's pretty funny, you know, try it like this, blah, blah, blah.

But nobody said go out and come in the door.

But this bald guy did.

So on the fifth time, because it was pissing me off.

You know, I do it once, you do it twice, three times.

But four times, five times.

So on the fourth time, when he did it, I just, that was the button.

Anger.

You know, I don't, because I never wanted to be an actor.

So all this was gifts to me.

My paycheck, no matter what it was, was a gift.

I was a stand -up comedian.

And this is all just.

for no reason at all so i got really angry and then he'd say and i i did it the fourth time but i was angry and i went out into the room where all these people are and i came in and i and he said thank you and he said thank you you go out the fifth time he comes i i they say you know next and it was my turn so just as about to go in the room for the fifth time I turned to the secretary just for some reason.

And I said, look, and I was really angry going in.

I mean, I was really angry.

And they said to her, Hey, you know, there's a guy, a bald guy sitting on a couch at the end.

He's always sitting there.

Who the fuck is he?

Because if he tells me to go in and come out and like Kramer again, I'm going to just cut him another asshole.

Okay.

Who the fuck is that?

I said it just like that.

And there was like four other people, you know, we were at the end.

They, they left, but I just read.

And she says, oh, that's Larry David.

He owns the show and he writes the sitcom.

It's like, oh.

So I went in.

Thank you.

Hey, just go in and come out like Kramer again.

You bet.

Thank you.

You bet.

Thank you.

And I got the part.

But he was that close.

But he's a great director, man.

He gave me the greatest direction ever of anybody.

Which was?

I'll tell you.

But I've been directed by, you know, John Huston, John Hughes, Vince Gilligan.

I've been directed by a lot of famous directors, you know, and even the ones I don't remember anymore.

But my idea about Tom Pepper.

was, you know, did you eat the raisins?

Did you steal the raisins?

That was the key to the character.

And I did, and I wouldn't cop to it.

So I figured if I'm not going to cop, then I'm not going to cop, period.

I'm going to be Buster Keaton.

You know, just Stonewall face.

I'm not going to, no emotion, no emotion.

So, and that would enable me to be Kramer.

If Tom Pepper had no emotion, I could just, you know, I don't have to hide Larry.

Okay.

So I, now I go through the rehearsal and, and the great thing about Larry David is he stands with, he's not the director.

He just stands on the side of the director.

The director is a traffic guy for the cameras.

Larry David just stands there with his arms crossed and he just watches.

And then he will call only the regulars, you know, Kramer, Seinfeld, Costanza, and the girl.

He would only give directions to them.

And what he did was he would call them over and have a private talk.

He'd say, you know, Seinfeld.

Jerry.

Jerry.

Thank you.

Say, Jerry, I want to talk to you.

She'd pull Jerry over, and they'd go over, and he'd go, and Jerry would go, and he'd go back in, and they'd do the scene again, and it'd be funnier.

And I thought, what the fuck did he tell them?

I couldn't tell the difference.

Right.

So now I'm like really watching it.

And he'd do it again to like Costanza.

He'd say, Costanza, you know, he'd say, Tom, Tom is the director.

He'd say, Tom, cut for a second during rehearsal.

Tom, hold it for a second.

I want to talk to Costanza.

And he'd say, cut.

All right.

And he'd say, Costanza, I want to talk to you.

And he'd pull Costanza aside.

Go back in.

do the scene again it'd be funnier man but he would only do it he wouldn't do it to anybody else he would just do it to the four regulars uh yeah so i was saying you know what i want him to call me over i want him to call me over yeah just just to find out what what is the magic dust he's giving them yeah it would always be funnier and then finally he said tom i want to talk to larry just can you cut all right larry he wants to talk to you all right come here and he pulled me aside and i'm thinking oh cool man it's so cool he's gonna tell me magic and i'm gonna be funnier so you know like i said stone face yeah so he comes over and he he calls me off this and he says um and this this is verbatim and this is all he said he said um i know what you're trying to do And the key to that thing is the word trying.

Right.

Really got my goat.

Yeah.

Like I was thinking, what the fuck do you mean trying?

You mean doing.

Fuck you.

I mean, that's what I had in my head.

But, you know, this is Larry David.

I go, what do you mean?

And he goes.

You're trying to do nothing.

And I go, holy cow, that's exactly what I'm trying to do.

Nothing.

And in other words, he blew my mind because he read my mind because he actually is paying attention and he knows what I'm doing.

He's giving me a direction.

I'm doing something.

Okay.

And that's in my mind.

I'm going, right, right.

But I did.

get excited and i just totally dropped any kind of anger i remember getting really excited that he actually was paying attention to what i was doing so i said well thank you very much he said okay and he just walked away that was all he said and then um i i do the scene again and he and he immediately yelled i want to talk to larry yeah you know i just was trying to say something and he did Tom, stop it.

I want to talk to Larry.

He calls me over again.

And I go, oh, now he's going to lay another truth on me.

Yeah.

And he goes, you're still doing something.

And he walked away.

Wow.

That's the greatest piece of directing I've ever heard.

How funny.

You know, I know what you're doing.

You're trying to do nothing.

You're still doing something.

Take it down.

Okay.

that man could do no wrong for the rest of his life yeah that's like you're gonna have to keep coming here until you do i mean this is the same thing it's you know uh yes every once in a while you know i i get my little jollies from acting but sure really i it's you know i when i was turning down big roles Because of the dyslexia thing.

It didn't affect me.

You know, I mean, in other words, if I really want to be an actor, that would be a killer.

Then I would probably sacrifice my salary as Henry Winkler did and hire somebody to, you know, it's a workaround.

That's all.

Yeah.

But it, you know, no matter what a director said, it never got under my skin or, you know, and I was, if I didn't get the part, that's fine.

Probably.

that's the attitude.

If you want to be an actor that you have to really, you know, embrace that kind of attitude of being rejected five times out of, you know, 10.

Right.

I'm hearing they're coming out with home alone for Kevin McAllister is Macaulay Culkin.

He's the adult and his son gets left home alone.

So maybe they, you got to reprise your role in it and be the, I don't think so.

No.

Well, I mean, for a really cool reason, to me, okay, I'll tell you this.

It's a short story.

It's very short.

But I didn't want to do that role.

I turned that role down three times.

And I turned it down because of ego, completely.

They said to me, Uh, listen, uh, we got a call.

My agent said, we got a call.

They're shooting a movie called Home Alone.

It's going to be a big, it's going to be a big hit.

It's John Hughes and Chris Columbus is directing.

It's going to be a big hit no matter what.

I said, well, you know, what's the party?

She says, well, it's just, uh, it's, um, it's one page.

It's, it's just a, it's a short scene.

I said, well, go with it then.

I mean, at that point, I was starting to get bigger roles.

Sure.

And that was too small, you know, because you got to keep building upward.

That was my thinking.

You know, I'm trying to think like an actor.

Right.

And I said, no, I don't want to do it.

And they called back and they said, look, we want Larry.

He's really good.

You know, we want him.

And I said, I don't care if they want me.

It's a too smaller role.

I'm thinking of my career.

I'm trying to build a career here.

I'm trying to do it the way the actors do just to get more money.

It's just too small.

I mean, if it was four pages, okay.

And they called back again and again the third time.

So they're just, what is this with this?

Why do they want me so much?

I don't want to do the small part.

That's the whole point.

It's not that I'm being uppity or anything.

I'm trying to protect myself.

And he says, Larry, look, they'll fly you in first class.

They will pick you up at the airport.

They'll pick you up in a limo.

They'll fly you first class.

They'll pick a limo from the airport to the set.

They'll have the set set up for you.

Told to me by the producers, they want you.

They'll have this set all set up.

All you do is go in, say your four lines.

I had four lines.

Say your four lines will be all set up.

And then the limo will wait for you at the curb.

When you're finished, you'll do one take.

That's it.

You get back in the car and you will sleep in your own bed the same night.

Now, do you want to do it?

And I say, no.

And he said, Larry, they're willing to pay you $10 ,000.

And they said, okay, let's do it.

Fine.

Let's go.

Fine with me.

Let's do it.

Yeah, I'm there.

So that's what happened.

So I got $10 ,000 to do it.

And I said, now I did say, why are they willing to pay me $10 ,000?

I don't deserve it.

I'm going to do it and I'm going to love it.

I'm not in that bracket.

That's what I'm trying to go to.

You don't give $10 ,000 for four lines.

So what's going on?

So they told me the truth.

The producer, one of the producers, called me to make sure when my agent said, yeah, he's going to do it for the $10 ,000.

The producer, one of the producers, two producers, called me at my home.

to check to see that i really did want to do it that the agent wasn't pulling you know their leg wow this was real he said now you're really doing this right because i had turned it down three times you know and then they wanted to say well is he putting me on now so i said no no fine he says okay i'll see you here tomorrow okay boom he said you got you got to shoot it tomorrow that was the other thing you got to shoot it tomorrow so i said well why Did you pay?

Why are you paying me so much money?

I asked him that.

He said, well, if the truth be told, Larry, we truly believe that Home Alone is cursed.

And I go, what?

And he goes, yeah, we've been shooting for three days now and it's going very badly.

And it's not one thing.

It's nothing is working.

And we figured we've got to change the vibe.

So we were calling you in because you've done very funny stuff that we've seen.

And, you know, we just need something to take the curse off.

That was all, you know, and we were hoping that if we get Larry, he'll be funny and we can get on with making this movie.

No pressure there, Larry, right?

No pressure?

Well, no, it was only four lines.

I had no pressure at all.

I was just curious, and I was glad I was getting $10 ,000.

You can't make me nervous or think I'm being used giving me $10 ,000 for four lines and having me sleep in my own bed.

Now, the one thing that I...

thought was really great about the whole office.

Okay, let me connect you with family crisis intervention.

Here's the thing.

Larry, can you pick up?

There's some lady on hold.

Sounds kind of hyper.

Family crisis intervention, Sergeant Balzac.

I'm calling from Paris.

I have a son who's home alone.

Has the child been involved in a violent altercation with Drunken Andrew, a mentally ill member of his immediate family?

No.

Has he been involved in a household accident?

I don't know.

I don't...

I hope not.

There it is.

No, he's just home alone.

I'd like somebody to go over to the house and see that he's alright, just to check on him.

You want us to go to your house?

Just to check on him.

Yes!

Let me connect you with the police department.

No, they just transferred me to you.

Rose!

Yeah?

Piper on two.

Hang on.

Hold on, please.

Piper on two.

Ah, I love it.

Okay, so let me just tell you what happened.

Larry, real quick, was your name Officer Ballsack?

Yeah.

Well, that was the joke.

It's Balzac, B -A -L -Z -A -C, but Balzac, yes.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I love it.

I mean, okay.

So when I saw, okay, I heard that the movie was cursed.

That I understood.

But I also asked one of the crew members when I got there, and they had the limousine, first class, limo all the way, first class, and I get there.

And the first thing I, oh, so when the producer called me on the phone the night before, I just wanted to check to see that you're really going to do this.

I said, yeah, yeah, yeah.

So, okay.

And then he said, and this was really a weird thing.

He said to me, now, what kind of props do you want?

So I go, what do you mean?

It's just a cop on the phone.

I don't understand.

What kind of props can I have?

He said, well, I thought, you know, maybe you wanted to use a different phone, a cell phone, or you want a different uniform.

We don't know.

I mean, we're paying you $10 ,000.

We might as well give you, you know, carte blanche with the character.

You know, you're a funny guy.

We trust you.

So if you want any prop, we'll give it to you.

So I'm thinking, it's a cop, right?

He goes, yeah, yeah, it's a cop.

Okay, give me a donut.

He goes, that's what you want?

A donut?

Well, you know, it's a cop.

It's a donut.

It'll be funny.

I go, that's all?

He goes, yeah, yeah, that's all.

I mean, I was like, I thought, you know, I wasn't thinking too hard about it.

Sure.

Yeah, yeah, that's all.

Fine.

Because I thought it had nothing to really do with the scene, so it's fine.

So I get there, and, you know, the...

The producers are waiting at the curb for the limo.

And the limo drives up, and they both escort me.

They say, no, quick, we got it all set up.

We're losing time.

Everything is time is money there.

Everything is time is money.

So they go, yeah, yeah, so just get in your car.

I go, whoa, whoa, whoa, hold it.

So they bring me to the set, and it's all set up, just like you saw it in the movie.

It's all set up.

There's the phone, you know, the landline phone, everything.

And I'm going, whoa, whoa, whoa.

And he says, go change in your uniform.

We'll shoot you and you put your back in the limo.

I said, whoa, whoa, whoa, wait a minute.

I asked for a donut.

I wanted a glazed donut.

And he goes, where is it?

And he goes, look, just put it on.

And he's not even thinking about that.

He says, just get in your uniform and let's just shoot this.

We're contracted to get you to.

sleep in your own bed tonight.

So I said, no, no, I want, I wanted, I wanted a donut.

Now I'm just fucking with them now.

No, no, I want a donut.

I wanted a glazed donut.

He says, don't worry.

We'll have the glazed donut.

Just go get in your cop uniform.

So I really rushed.

I put on the cop uniform and see, you know, honestly, they really went for a glazed donut.

Holy cow.

This is okay.

They really must think this is cursed.

So I come back.

And you know these rolling trays they have in bakeries, you know?

Oh, yeah.

Trays and trays and trays.

And they can roll it around.

Okay.

Standing next to the camera when I came back.

And then the camera set up.

It was lit.

Everything set up.

Just had to just sit down.

So right next to the camera, they have one of these rolling trays.

And on each tray, there's 10 trays.

And each tray, there was...

there was 20 levels.

And on each level there was 30 donuts.

30 glazed donuts.

600 glazed donuts they had standing by the camera.

So I said, what the fuck, man?

I just wanted one glazed donut.

And he said, we may have to do two takes, Larry.

Ha ha.

Ha ha.

Okay.

Producer made it funny.

yeah let's okay let's just do this i want to go home okay so he says okay so i sit down and he goes okay take one okay and action larry you know ho uh hello i cut what is that me what cut well we didn't even i just no no the camera jiggled all right it's okay take two back to back to one okay you said and i go okay wait a minute wait a minute i need another donut see Okay, very funny.

Okay, yeah.

Okay, so give me another donut.

And I'm looking, I'm seeing the crew who's not working on the movies, they're stealing donuts from the bottom thing.

Of course.

I say, hey, get away.

We may do 600 takes.

Back off, okay?

Because the movie is cursed, you know.

Take two.

Blah, blah, blah, blah.

Cut.

All right, now what?

He said, the camera just went off the dolly.

Because it's one, you know, it's a dolly.

Oh, yeah.

So he says, the camera just went off the dolly.

I'd say, okay, fine.

All right, take three.

And cut.

Now what?

And there was something.

Take four, take five, take six, take seven, take eight, take nine.

Wow.

Something went wrong.

Every fucking time.

Wow.

I never, in nine takes, I never got through to the last line.

Oh, get out of here.

Nine takes.

Damn.

So now everybody is thinking, holy cow, including me.

I'm going, my God, there is a curse on this.

Yeah.

Okay, take nine.

Larry, give me another.

I'm running out of donuts, and I'm tired of eating them.

Not bad, I was going to say.

So, you know, they're all glazed.

So, you know, and I'm on a diet, you know, and I don't like sugar.

So it's, it's cursing me in every way possible.

Okay.

Sure.

But I'm getting, okay.

So take nine and I go, okay.

And the only one who didn't cop to the fact that it's cursed, man, you could look at the crew members.

They're going, Holy cow.

You know, this is real.

Even the producers were, you know, worried.

They were really worried.

But Chris Columbus, hey, let's go.

Take nine.

Come on.

Let's do this.

Let's shoot this and get on with it.

He didn't care.

No, it wasn't cursed.

We're making a movie.

I thought that was really cool.

He was totally not bothered.

Boom.

So he's, all right, take nine.

Okay.

Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

And I hear this explosion above my head.

And I'm showered with glass from the Klieg light.

We're shooting on a set.

whoa exploded right above my face and it showered me in glass you know that thin you know those big bulbs like that showered me in glass all over my all over me all over the desk all over he said okay and chris goes i cut all right we get clean this up and let's get out of here come on we'll do it again so everybody took 10 minute break And they're brushing off the table and everything.

And there's a costume people and makeup people brushing me off.

And all I'm saying is, I'm not going to sue.

Don't worry.

I'm not going to sue.

You know, so they're brushing me off.

And finally he says, okay, let's just get back to it.

All right, Larry, get in the scene.

Give him a donut.

Get him another donut.

Okay.

Another donut.

Okay.

Take 10.

Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

Rose, hyper on two.

Cut!

That's a take.

Put Larry in the limo.

And I said, no, no, wait, wait, wait, wait.

He said, no, no waiting.

We're contracted to have you in your bed by tonight.

Get the fuck in the limo.

Get him out of here.

Get out of your cop's house.

So I said, no, I want to see what's going on.

But I did rush off and I got into my clothes, but I wanted to see what was so funny.

Because when the...

He yelled, cut, that's a take, print.

Larry is released, get him in a limo.

When he said that, I wanted to know what just happened because when he said cut, everybody laughed.

And on a set, you can't laugh until they yell cut because they'll ruin the take.

If they yell cut and print, you got to hold it and then you can laugh.

Print, okay.

So that's what they did.

It was a held in laugh.

And then when he said, we got it.

And I said, why did they laugh?

On the other nine takes, nobody laughed every time he said cut.

Now they laughed when you said cut.

But we got through the scene.

So I said, why did they laugh?

He said, because it's funny, Larry.

I said, what's funny?

He said, oh, you didn't see?

You had a piece of.

uh the the donut stuck on the phone that's what they were like yeah because i was looking you know i was looking at yeah i was working i didn't know it so he i said what he said yeah piece of the donut just stuck to your thing i said well that's a mistake he says yeah yeah yeah that's great i said let's do it again and i insisted I said, no, I want to do it again.

Give me another donut.

He says, no, no, we got it, Larry.

Just get out of here, will you?

And he said, just change your costume.

We booked your flight.

We got to get you to the airport.

There's only one more flight.

We got to get you back to L .A.

And I said, no, I want to know.

He said, just change your costume, will you?

So I said, okay, don't touch the tray.

I said to him, don't touch the donut tray.

Don't break it, okay?

So I rushed in, I changed this.

And they came back and everybody's like, what the fuck?

You know, what's with Larry?

And so I run back and I look at the tray.

It was on a soundstage and the lights, it exploded because it was so hot on the set that the glaze on the donut melted acting as glue.

that's what held the donut it was a piece of the top and it just stuck because if you watch the big film or maybe it was shortened I couldn't watch but not only is it funny when you cut to it but because of the I found this out later because of the syrupy you know glaze that was now glue the thing was Like if this is the microphone.

Yeah.

It didn't fall here.

No.

It fell here.

Right.

Yeah.

So as I was talking and people were laughing at it, it was very slowly just falling.

It was still glued until finally it just was so heavy that it dropped.

But that was what the kids were.

It's like one piece, not a stick.

But that so when I walk down the street now and people say, oh, there's that guy, there's that guy.

Because everybody watches it every Christmas.

Yeah.

Or Thanksgiving.

It's a holiday.

The family runs over and the kids all say, how did you do that?

How did you do that donut thing?

Is it green screen?

Did you have a string on it?

And the fathers will say, yeah, how did you do that?

You know, what was that all about?

And I'd have to explain to it.

And I love doing it because it's the only time I really, I'm interested in explaining to them what went on.

It's just really weird.

But that's the most famous crumb in movie history.

Oh, absolutely.

Yes.

You got to change the story, Larry, and tell people that that's a $5 ,000 CGI.

Oh, right.

Yeah.

they were breaking out oh yeah we did that 10 times before we got it correct exactly right we had to bring in ai that was it and it turns out the ai was invented 10 years ago nobody knew about it you know so i could literally i could say that oh no no it's longer than 10 no this that was in the set 70s 70s or 80s right You can tell people this was Elon Musk's first company to stick to the phone.

But everybody who's seen Home Alone, and that's like everybody all across the world.

I'm big in India and Germany.

Oh, yeah.

I get, you know, was ist das, you know, krummel an das phono?

Okay.

Yeah, it was great.

I just said, no, I was just eating a donut, you know.

By the way, I had to eat 10 donuts for your information.

Yes, lots of donuts.

Did you purge afterwards and do the Hollywood thing in bulimia?

No, I was too busy.

Everybody was rushing me.

Get him in a limo, and the limo was rushing the airport because they had booked a plane.

I mean, there was a schedule that had to be met.

And son of a gun if I didn't sleep in my own bed that night.

The great part of the whole thing, which kind of wraps this all up, was that...

The reason that, okay, $10 ,000 was why I was doing it.

But the second reason why I loved doing it was because of the codicil in the contract that said they had to get me back to sleep in my own bed, which was kind of a joke.

But because of that joke, I didn't have to pack a thing.

I could go, I just, whatever I was dressed in, I hopped in a limo, I go there, put the costume on.

put my clothes on and go back home.

So I spent the evening with my friends, you know, and slept in my own bed.

That's brilliant.

That's awesome.

All right, Larry.

So before we let you go, I want to put your book up on the screen.

You can tell the folks.

Here's the book.

I I'm pushing.

This one is too new.

It has no reviews out on it yet.

So give it a chance.

It's out there.

It's on, it's on, it's on Amazon .com.

Oh, it's also an electronic book.

I think it's like two bucks or three bucks or something like that.

So it's an electronic ebook.

Or you can do, this is the one I'm pushing because this one's got great reviews.

And it's really about all the things that I've done.

Home Alone is in there.

Breaking Bad is in there.

My improv days at Second City are in there.

Trains, planes, and automobiles.

All stuff, trains, planes, and automobiles.

All of the big ones for that guy.

My name is Larry Hankin.

It's a cautionary tale.

The reason it's a cautionary tale is because it's a warning.

If you want to be an actor, be prepared to not do whatever I did in the book.

It's uncool.

You'll be a star if you don't do what I did.

Okay, guys.

Hey, that was great.

Yes.

Thank you again.

That was amazing.

Yes, Larry.

Thank you so much.

Thank you, Larry.

Okay, I'll see you in another year or so or however long.

Perfect.

Okay, cool.

All right, bye.

Thank you.

Take care, Larry.

The one and only Larry Hankin, folks.

Yes, yes, why yes.

Go check out those books, folks.

Yes.

We've read, I've read some excerpts from him.

That guy is really cool.

Gets into a lot of his, you know, career and stuff like that.

All his iconic roles that, you know, we were going over earlier.

Billy Madison, Home Alone.

uh planes trains on all because i mean he's been in everything i mean breaking bad and el camino i forgot he was in el camino the the follow -up movie to breaking bad i was like damn yeah and not and not because he was on here but he really is like a steen sealer like a scene stealer every like movie he's in or or tv role he's in he kind of steals the steals the show which is kind of cool um i did have a bunch more for the show uh for the people for our audience but uh My bladder is full because we ran along there.

What's up, Bobby?

Yeah, we're at 1147.

What's going on?

Yes, sir.

That was great, man.

I'll tell you, some really interesting stories.

Wow.

The one and only Larry.

Are you serious about the Home Alone 4 thing?

Yes and no.

Just make that up.

I kind of made it up.

I heard about it, but I don't think it's going to happen.

Well, there is a Home Alone 4.

I looked it up.

There is a Home Alone 4, but maybe they're making Home Alone 5 or 6 or something.

I don't know.

Yeah, I saw one of those.

I think it was a meme thing where it's like Home Alone 4, and then I just kind of came up with a little backstory for it.

It'll be kind of like the sequel to Christmas Story where the main character's now grown.

Yeah.

His son's new.

That would be a cool concept if it's real.

Such a great episode that was, man.

Larry's a man.

Look how stoned Bobby got during the show, Chad.

He started off the show.

Now his eyes are open.

I was going to say, when we first started the show, his eyes were there, and then all of a sudden.

Bobby, anything for Bobby's world?

I want to show one show that just came out on Apple TV.

It's called Pluribus.

Here's the scene from that.

Bobby's going to show us a scene from Pluribus, a new Apple TV show.

I have no idea what it's about, but he was kind of, I think something to do with aliens.

Add this right here.

Yeah.

Yep.

There we go.

What about a bazooka?

What about a tank?

Oh, sure.

in that part too and they say they have to give it they took over like the whole the whole world and the 86 000 people died in the process of it and she's you know she's one of them spoiler alert do we have to do that for any of this no because it's already it's been uh it's pretty much out there better call saul too Yeah, yeah, yeah.

She's from Better.

She does great in the show.

I watched four episodes of it so far.

And as far as TV is concerned, there's been shit on TV.

So, like, Stranger Things, this, and the show I showed last week, Begonia, have been pretty good shows.

Rock on.

Plurry bus, folks.

You heard it here from the one and only Bob A.

Check it out.

Yeah, Chad and I have not checked it out yet, but...

we'll take his recommendation apple tv does a lot of good um shows severance severance was another good show they did that's good yeah i've never gotten apple tv i just gotta do that someday well ted lasso was on that right yeah ted lasso severance is cool like i watched the first uh season of it but i got like seven episodes in and you're still like what the fuck is going on why are they like what's the point of it and i guess i like selves off every time they leave you know their whole work life is separate from their life except no i understand you know yeah i was just wondering what the point was i think it shows how like people can be so like separate you know separate like uh personalities you know personality disorders you know yeah yeah showing that aspect of things A lot of shows that come out with a lot of truth.

I'll tell you that.

It's showing people what's going on.

Yeah, preemptively.

Predictive programming.

There you go.

That's it.

I mean, that's the truth.

All right, guys.

All right, Bob A.

The one and only Bob A from Bob A's World.

Yeah, so Chad and I were speaking earlier.

are coming up with some different formats for this program.

We might give you a little extra time coming Tuesdays, but we're discussing that now and for the future.

But a bunch of cool things.

I believe next week we have a cool guest.

I believe it's a TikToker.

The name is evading me at the moment.

Tiffany.

Tiffany with a Y.

Yes, I believe.

No, she's on the 16th.

So next week is somebody, but I don't.

Let's see if I have it.

Yeah.

At least I thought it was.

Oh, it's drumming up conversations back on.

Yes.

They're coming on just to have a good time.

Close out the year.

They just had their episode 200.

Chad and I were both on.

That's right.

Yeah.

Corenza has a bunch of stuff on here, Chad.

I almost.

want to ask her if she could save this for next week but i don't know if she will remember to and it jared leto is freaking weirdo man let me see if i could uh she like was posting something i was like well here's a big one right here like what does this say uh i'm just gonna read it real quick i think i know who stole the throwing copper painting and who has been bothering live Daughtry and a bunch of other people, famous and non -famous.

They are usually South American.

I found at UCLA the world's most wanted because they don't know medical and were trying to steal everything, including the famous medical center.

I found all these fake doctors because they don't know a damn thing about medical and when they were once good.

I took it from there.

It leads to COVID.

COVID was all about land grabs, commercial real estate.

All one has to do is violate the Medical Privacy Act, HIPAA, and they have everyone's medical records.

It's so many felonies.

They are in everything, including travel.

They use airline itineraries to stalk anyone who is anyone.

I found one to try and even fake his death because he's a criminal and wanted to steal someone's identity and took out life insurance at every global corporation he worked for, as well as steal information.

Chad Gray's here.

Uh, Karenza, that's a lot.

Uh, and maybe you need to come on as a guest and explain that, uh, thing.

Cause I was reading some of it.

I'm like, Oh, maybe I can draw some parallels here and some conclusions there, but it's a lot for that little thing.

Um, and yeah, maybe you want to come on and be a guest one day.

Cause you put a lot of, uh, a lot of cool stuff in the chat.

Um, so something to unpack there, Mr.

Gracie, any of that makes sense to you or, um, I don't know.

She kind of got into like, I don't know what she's talking about.

The, the throwing covers painting being stolen.

We have one in the building and then the other ones are owned by a private collector in Europe.

So I don't know.

Was that one stolen?

Cause the one in York is not stolen.

Right.

That's what I was wondering.

And, uh, yeah, they use your from South.

And then she says, uh, Jared, Jared is very unique.

Yeah.

He's unique.

All right.

Oh, Jared, let us.

Doesn't he have a fucking island where he brings, like, female basically worshippers to come and, like, just hang out with him on this freaking island somewhere?

Really?

I believe so.

Yes.

And they pay to, like, come and hang out with him.

Wow.

So he's actually getting people to pay themselves to get traffic to go to his island.

Yes, basically.

He's that cool.

Yeah.

Wow.

God bless, man.

To each their own.

Allegedly.

Allegedly, exactly.

Just to put what she said up there, did you guys notice everyone has been in lawsuits since the highly publicized lawsuit of $30 million to 30 Seconds of Mars?

I met and worked with 30 Seconds of Mars several times.

They're all very sweet.

They are also victims.

Yeah, Corenza, you definitely need to come on as a guest.

You seem to have a lot of knowledge and hanging out with some cool people.

So if you're ever down to clown.

send me a dm send me a dm oh yeah and this is another thing chad she was talking about she's saying she bought a gold record from live and yeah we saw him on the website for a while yeah we would sell gold records um that were certified by the ra ri dole yeah yeah but i think she was saying hers was stolen and she's like tracking it now i don't know i was trying to i'm not sure about that I was trying to pay attention to Larry when she was typing all this stuff.

But, Karenza, yeah, maybe put all this stuff in a nice little DM for me and we'll dissect it.

And if you ever want to come on as a guest, you have an open invite there.

What else?

What else?

What else?

Anything for the audience, Mr.

Gracie?

I don't know.

Happy holidays.

Hope everyone had a good Thanksgiving.

getting ready for christmas i'm sure everyone's out there buying stuff for everybody we didn't talk about any political stuff this week again dude well hey it's all right yes so that's what i mean one thing we did talk about at the beginning was you know the the left and now the media are making this big deal about about the administration taking out all the drug boats and the latest The latest bullshit is that, oh, there were two survivors in the water and they missiled them and blah, blah, blah.

Anonymous source said so.

It's like anonymous source.

That's always the go -to.

I mean, they still do the same fucking playbook.

Anonymous source said that this happened.

They're like, one, it's not even provable.

Two, even if it did happen, why do you care so much?

Right.

Only you don't you don't actually care about the human beings involved.

You care about resisting Trump and trying to make him look bad.

That's all you care about.

That's the only reason you talk about it.

Period.

You don't stop with the fake humanity and like, oh, we care about these drug dealer pieces of shit that are trying to bring fentanyl into our country and kill our own citizens.

They will always, always, always side with the enemy, no matter whoever the enemy is.

That's who the Dems side with.

Yeah.

Well, this anonymous source.

This anonymous source, like they're doing this in the middle of the ocean.

Where was this source located to see?

Well, apparently it was a DOD anonymous source that saw the film.

Oh, gotcha.

Because they release this footage periodically of a boat getting taken out.

Yeah.

Who knows if it even actually happened?

Probably not.

And everything that I see is the boat is blown to smithereens.

I mean, if anybody's surviving that, you better have.

some kind of special powers.

My whole point is stop with the fake moral outrage about the drug trafficking human beings involved.

You don't actually care about that.

All you care about is trying to get Trump.

That's it.

That's all you care about.

And the administration.

That's all you give a fuck.

Stop with your fake moral outrage.

Sick of it.

100%.

Yeah, starting to get annoying.

But we're going to set this up.

So like we said earlier, Chad and I have been spoken.

We might make this show a little bit longer.

We might take a bathroom break in between this week.

We're kind of not set up for it, but get ready for some more content from the gracious too.

We are expanding.

We are reaching larger audiences.

We are still technically part of the voice of people network.

We'll see how long that continues or if we're looking for a new network.

But as of now, we're in it to win it.

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