Navigated to BX (BackCross), IBL (Inbred Line), S1 (Selfed), & IX (Incross) - What Do They Mean? - Transcript

BX (BackCross), IBL (Inbred Line), S1 (Selfed), & IX (Incross) - What Do They Mean?

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Speaker 3

Hey, what's up everyone, I'm Matthew.

I'm here with Screwsten tonight.

Speaker 5

I think just we'll see if Chuck you rolls in on the dope rope shit, Mike, We're going to be talking about reading nomenclature, different terms that are used in cannabis a little bit.

Oh oh, just when we thought we weren't going to see him, the dope rope swung in.

Speaker 2

I'm here.

That's what matters.

Speaker 3

That's what matters.

Speaker 2

I just choose the fashion would be late so I can make an entrance every time.

Speaker 5

So we're talking about bringing nomenclature.

I mean, we see a lot of people have confusion.

Definitely, there's a lot of confusion about what back cross means, like the actual term idl ix and like people call that nine a lot.

Speaker 3

We'll get into it, and what else s one and so on.

Speaker 5

Yeah, and we got some good questions from the discord today, so we're going to go through those, and there's a few in chat.

Speaker 3

So yeah, go ahead, screw kick it off.

Speaker 2

All right.

Speaker 6

So I think this is a pretty apt one for the big just to you know, step us off here from Cadman.

There are a host of breakers that use things like b X eleven and F thirteen on the names of their lines.

Is there any way to find out what they think that means?

So I interpret this as like good questions to you know, like suss out.

Speaker 5

Yeah, I mean, that's that's what I think, Like when I was thinking about this episode today, what we were going to talk about, it's a good way to help people know questions to ask other seat makers.

And I mean, you want to know that the guy making your seats knows what the fuck was talking about, right, So if you you educate yourself and know some of the answers going in and ask what they need when they're using these terms, you'll.

Speaker 3

Get an idea of like how much work they've done to knowing any of that.

Speaker 5

So, yeah, you know, there is a DJ short line called F thirteen, But I don't know if that's what they meant by naming the line that or putting F thirteen at the.

Speaker 3

End of that.

Speaker 6

Yeah, I think he's talking about just you know when people put like weirdly you know, uh bread, Yeah, yeah, like it's a plus thing, you know.

Speaker 3

M yeah, I can see that.

Speaker 2

Well.

Speaker 5

I I have rarely seen anybody work anything.

I mean, I know CBF did some stuff that is labeled F nine.

Speaker 3

He's been around a long time.

Speaker 5

I'm not sure how pure the line is after seeing what popped out of it by the F nine range, but you know, yeah, I mean it usually it's older, older gents who have had time to work things.

Speaker 3

You know, nine years or at least nine grows cycles.

Speaker 2

We thought about.

Speaker 3

Nine grows cycles.

Speaker 2

That's a long time unless it's as you can get and you get me honestly.

Yeah, if you're working with the rags, I mean you're looking at you put a seed in the ground.

In autos, you're looking about week three, you're starting to get pollen dropping from seeds, So I mean, and you know you could if you're not taking it all away and you're just harvesting the seeds, you can get them pretty quick.

Dude.

Speaker 3

Yeah, you could do that.

Speaker 5

I mean, you don't necessarily need to finish the button to pull the seeds.

You know, usually to have nice harvests of a mature seed, you it's going to take eight weeks like to have a nice four week long, nice juicy morsels.

Speaker 3

But yeah, I mean, if you think eight weeks, eight weeks times.

Speaker 5

You know, some people put like twelve and thirteen on their shit kind of skunk master Flex did that with this Larry F eight, Like I don't know how long he's been growing, Like we're friends, so like, you know, some shit silly, but you know, like some of those could be inherited generations from other people that you know works things to F three And if he wants to be correct and he took it five generations, then and he's put he's taken it in the same direction, importantly same direction, not taking it a completely different direction and made a whole new line out of it, then F it would be proper.

Speaker 2

Oh yeah, how long man?

When you first started making seeds and stuff, did you see the same kind of stuff with the way that people labeling or you know, with like bx S ones and stuff, being that films came online When you were first coming up, Like, how did people, I mean, how did people to react to that type of lingo and ship as you I.

Speaker 5

Don't remember seeing S one during that time.

I should just saw feminized.

Speaker 6

B X.

Speaker 5

Sure there's there's some bx's out there, but not very often.

You know, most people were just putting names on the strain and that was it.

You know, it was the era of name your own strain is where you want to be fu the BX.

There weren't that many guys that far into it as far as I.

Speaker 2

Can what, uh, I guess who were some of the first people that started coining stuff like you know, s ones or is that something that's even in another like industry or another you know, something to do with the gardening.

I don't.

I don't know if I'm just asking.

Speaker 5

On feminize seeds and making it if that was in there with the ram and set paper, or if it was something from Rob Clark or I think it was something from agriculture to be honest, like brought in self uh.

Speaker 6

Which which is something that happens very often in sciences, like as new emerging fields and stuff are coming online, they use they use nomenclature already in place for a related field and kind of adapted to what they're doing.

Speaker 2

Yeah, I was watching recently.

I was watching, Uh, there was a one of the chefs, not Gordon Ramsey, the Pierre guy, the guy that taught Gordon Ramsey.

I was watching this documentary on him going around cooking stuff for like London dishes or whatever.

And one of the things that they were they went was it beats or I think it was beats.

Anyways, they had this lady was growing them and they had them in like a basement, dark area, but they had candles lit in there, so it was real low light.

And they said that but they've learned over the years that if you let them grow with really low lights that it makes them sweeter.

So I wonder, you know, you hear that in cannabis the Bro Science and shit Matt, So I was wondering, is that maybe where you get the whole like, oh, well, you know when you go to harvest, put your plan in for you know, forty eight hours of darkness or whatever it is.

Speaker 5

You know, I remember the bro science of it being like and I don't I don't know whether I genuinely don't know that where this was taken from, but like people would say, oh, yeah, you turn it, you know, two days of dark because that THC or the oils or at its highest point in the tricones in the dark during the cycle.

Speaker 2

Yeah, scientists.

Speaker 5

I've never seen that papers, but maybe it's in there, maybe like in a lavender paper something like that about And.

Speaker 2

I just wondered if it wouldn't from like that.

Well, I think it was beats or something.

Bro.

I'm not sure, some kind of thing that they were wrong, but it's weird that they were doing that.

Speaker 3

You watch cooking documentaries, Bro.

Speaker 2

I got so big to the other I'm fucking bake right now.

To be honest with you, dude, I got some we gotta do.

We're gonna talk about some trades and some dominant trades and some recessive trades here.

Speaker 6

Man.

Speaker 2

I don't know if you saw the news, bro, but I think I might actually have two dads.

Fam.

Speaker 3

I need to hear about this.

Speaker 2

All right.

Well we'll break it down real quick, all right.

Yeah, So yesterday I'm sitting there, I was looking at my genealogy shit or whatever, like my DNA test.

It's like on a website or whatever.

Right, I did it like six years ago.

Speaker 5

But I was.

Speaker 2

I would always look at it to see like, you know where I come from, you know where you know stuff like that.

Whatever, Well, I was my dad.

You know the history of my dad.

He's had a lot of medical problems like strokes and brain timber and shit like that.

So, you know, throughout my life, I'm like, man, like, when's my time coming?

Fam?

You know.

Like, so I was like, maybe I'll start looking into like that kind of stuff and see what, you know, kind of trying to predict if I'm gonna have some problems or something.

Speaker 5

Man.

Speaker 2

So I was looking on his side of his tree, bro, and like all the people on there were people from Kentucky.

My dad's from Iowa and he's born and raised in Iowa.

So like the people that were showing up on his his side were people from my hometown, the same place that my mom's side was showing up.

So I was like, what the hell, Bro, I have to thinking like, my dad's got jet black hair, bro, dominant trait, dude.

My grandma's got jet black hair.

Dude.

They're always talking about how they're Native American.

I'm sit here looking at myself like, dude, I'm I ain't know I cannot be Native American, dude.

And I was like, whatever, Well, I'm looking at and I'm get to looking back through family pictures, bro, and I'm like, man, like, I look like my mom and that's it.

Like I'm a foot taller than the rest of my family, uh, you know, and I got red hair, reddish blonde, strawberry blonde hair.

My body hair is blonde, like my dad's hair is like he's like a gorilla.

His hair's all black.

His arm hair is black.

He's stocky, he's like five five, bro.

Speaker 5

You know.

Speaker 2

Uh, but so I'm looking at this data, you know, on this website, I'm putting too and two together, and like, what the hell?

So I just se straight up.

I was just like, fuck it.

Me and my mom are close as hell.

So I called her up and I was just like, yo, is there any possibility that my dad ain't my dad?

Fam?

And She's like, uh.

It wasn't like, oh no, there's no way.

It was just like, uh maybe.

So uh we got to talking and uh, the guy that supposedly my mom was in the navy right so before she met my dad, literally like the week before, she's you know, getting a little ratchet out on the town on leave on Christmas.

Right, she come back from San Diego.

She's a or whatever base off base and she's back home in Kentucky and her house.

Heart was home as well.

He's was out in California on base as well, and uh, they went on a few dates Christmas makes and you know, start smashing.

I guess I talked to mom.

She's like, you know, I had my monthly thing, so I just didn't think I was pregnant.

Blah blah blah.

Well I meet your dad like a week later at a Vedo machine dude out in San Diego.

All right, she need she needed change.

And I guess my dad's just blasting raw dog in the eighties style.

Maybe you guys can tell us in the chat, some of your older guys, what's up with that, y'all just blasting everybody raw dog style back in the eighties.

But so I'll get to look at this guy's picture, fam he looks just like me, So no way, I swear to God, I'll reach and I even reach out to him.

I said, look, dude, like my mom said, you you know the date is exactly because I was like, Mom was like, well, maybe it's not I was like, well, when'd you hang out with him?

She's like, well, New Year's Eve, right, I'm born on September eighth, it's nine months fan.

All right.

People are like you are you tripping?

Are you sad?

Speaker 6

Bro?

Speaker 2

I'm like, fuck, no, dude, I might have two dads.

Dude, that's cool.

Shit, Like I don't know, and my dad's had a lot of medical problems, right, So like the fact that there might be some other dude out there that's my dad that uh, you know, I could hang out with or get to know.

Maybe I don't know, maybe I don't want to, yeah, kiss whatever, but uh, yeah, this cool man.

They explained a lot of stuff in my life.

Dude, I've always fell a little out of place.

But my mom said, yeah, she just didn't know, and the dude didn't know, and that you know.

So hey, but hey, guys, bond not yet.

It's Facebook, so I don't know, you know, it's he don't get on the very much.

But guys, grow up, gals, look at your dad, look at your mom.

You're thinking of yourself.

I don't look like these motherfuckers kind of uh, do some investigation because you might have a whole other fucking family.

I got like four or five sisters and shut out there fam probably like it's crazy.

He had a whole other family, Like I don't know, it's kind of cool.

But but while I'm going through this, like a four hour process, I'm thinking to myself, my dad got black hair, he's five five, everything about it like he's chubby.

Do you see what I'm saying.

I'm not.

I'm not like got it all.

I'm skinny, tall, you know, or taller, and red hair.

And when you take black hair and you combine it with blonde or red, generally it dominates unless you got the double recesses.

My my real father, biological father.

He has reddish brown hair, blue eyes.

His eyes look exactly like mine.

It's face shape and everything.

So kind of interesting.

Little story man, daddy's frow.

Speaker 3

How did that feel like?

Finding that out as you're kind of scoping through this.

Speaker 2

Honestly, the probably one of the biggest reliefs of my life.

And I mean, dude, I'm in my mid thirties now.

Suddenly I got a hold, new doorway, a new chapter, new possibilities to meet some like someone that is like my actual dad, And I don't feel like it's like in a dirty way, I think that he generally probably didn't know and the timing and stuff like I but actually I felt great, dude, because you know, my dad's had a lot of medical problems.

So if I'm not his biological son, I hate to say it, like I feel like you know, like I said, I've had this anxiety building up for a long time, like man, like when am I getting a stroke?

When am I get Because my dad started getting strokes brain tumors in his early twenties and in his thirties, so uh, as I get older, I'm like shit in my pants, like when So a big relief, dude, honestly, And uh, you know, there's been times where my dad's almost passed away.

So the fact that there might be my biological father is out there and maybe he could build a relationship with him if he wants.

Uh, I don't know.

Families.

Family is important, you know, so to me at so, I think it's fucking cool at the.

Speaker 5

Very least, at the very least you might have a longer lease on life at least.

Yeah, like not not pain, not you know some of these things that can be passed down.

Speaker 2

Yeah, so you know, cool cool little little tidbit.

You know, I don't know a little little fact about Chucky.

I got two dads.

Well that's pretty cool.

Speaker 5

When he said that, I was like, does he have two males somehow lasting on each other?

Speaker 2

And you know, my dad will always be my dad, you know I've been until I changed that.

I could care less if he's my biological father or not.

But he's the guy who raised me.

He was there for me and held it down.

So but the prospects of potentially having a relationship with someone else that is matter biological father thinks pretty fucking cool.

I don't know, it's kind of neat, dude.

Speaker 5

We need someone's right, we do you need like a weed?

Jerry Springer show when.

Speaker 2

I know you you're back.

I know all my buddies are like, my buddies are like sending me Jerry Springer, you're not the father me And I'm like.

My mom was like, oh bro, she had ants up and down New Year's Eve, getting dirty dick down.

Speaker 3

She's like it was like that, dude.

Speaker 5

Everybody I know that was in the Navy from those years, they were all fucking everyone like wife swapping, all kinds of wild ship like that's just the way it was.

Speaker 3

It is.

Speaker 2

I think, yeah, yeah, they're so cool, cool little story.

Uh yeah, I don't know.

He's obviously back in Kentucky and ship if he reads it and we meet up, it'd be kind of cool.

That's all I got to say about it.

Speaker 3

So the guy does have some of your your facial traits.

Speaker 2

Though I'm mistaking this motherfucker's face.

I gotta show you a video later.

I was taking this motherfucker's face on my iPad and I made our head.

I took a picture the same like he had, and I'm taking my face in his face, making them transparent, and they fit over perfectly, and I'm fading them in the same green eyes, same short little teeth like that guy.

Bro, Like the same exact shape of my teeth, same thin lip, top lip, bro, same creases right here, same chubby cheek, kind of like rounded cheat dudels right there.

You go.

Yeah, he even got the same creases and the same shape ears, bro, Like the ears and everything are exactly the same, like the or just this profile of it, the way they're flat to his face and they're a certain curve and everything to them.

Dude, you like it's weird.

Speaker 3

You had twenty years for some reason.

Speaker 2

I got a nice little rounded and nicely this year, bro over here is halfway lower than this one because when I was a kid, I ripped it off.

Uh so it's sold back on.

So it's a little what fucked up?

Speaker 3

You know, I had my nose so back on too.

Speaker 2

Really well, I don't know anyways, enough about my daddy issues, do it.

Speaker 3

That's a story I.

Speaker 2

Might I told the guys in the discourse, said I could have something to do with the camp dog origin story after all.

Speaker 3

After all, right, maybe Kentucky Bluegrass ship.

Speaker 2

You never knows.

I don't know.

This dude's like a Navy seal bro, so I don't know or whatever he is.

He's like something.

Speaker 5

Hey, the ra young guys were merchant Marines and uh I think, uh yeah, the guys were marines too.

Speaker 2

SA out there drilling my mom, you know, making kids and shoot, put some condoms on motherfucker's god damn.

Speaker 3

I mean, you gotta talk to them all about I told her.

Speaker 2

I said, well, you get you get rapting on me, mom.

I said, that was pretty excuious.

You can tell me the truth is.

She said, well, you know that's a possibility that I get this guy you're dead.

So it was it even like, oh no, there's no way, yes, like, uh, maybe you got me heard.

Yeah.

Yeah, anyways, we're getting into weed shit.

Guys.

Speaker 3

I love that though.

Speaker 2

Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 3

I think that's pretty cool.

Speaker 2

I had I'd hate to be him.

Right, You're sitting there at you're fifty five years old.

He's got like, you know, three daughters and a son, and he's like living his life and doing all this ship and then it's like, surprise, motherfucker, chunk.

Speaker 3

You're over eighteen, dude, that.

Speaker 5

You waited until after you're eighteen to figure out your mom was a home you know.

Speaker 2

Like, so he's got a really young son.

So he's obviously was wanting a son because he had three daughters in the same age.

So I was like, maybe it will be like, damn, I got a whole grown ass son out there.

Fam.

I mean, yeah, dude, that's cool as.

Speaker 5

Still making babies, dude, I got like a one year old girl brother.

Speaker 3

Month old.

He's still blasted.

Speaker 2

Away pounding meat.

Hey, hey, somebody's got to do it nowadays.

Man, I guess somebody's got to make some babies.

Speaker 5

He's made so many and there's been so many times I've had like, uh, you got a thirteen year old sister, you've got eight five year old brother, like just out of the blue.

Speaker 2

Yeah, it makes sense.

Dude always had this feeling though, like, man, I belong to that on the beat somewhere like a beach bumb.

I thought maybe my mom smashed them dad out there in Cali bro beach bump type shit.

And come to find out, now it's just some other dude in my hometown.

Speaker 3

I mean he's idlewin.

Speaker 2

Though, right he said, no my dad, my real dad or my dad that raised me.

He's from Iowa.

Okay, this guy he's from He grew up with my mom.

He's my mom's high school sweetheart.

So it's even oh here, and everyone's like, maybe it's not true.

But here's here's another interesting fact.

Matt.

Fifteen years ago, when I was in twenty twenty years old, I was in Florida with my brothers, my family, my girlfriend, one of my best friends, my brother.

He always had these problems.

He's always a little cry baby, right, a little proper fucking sissy.

I'll be honest, but he'd always cried and he got into him.

The mom are on the middle of vacation down in Pensacola, shoutout Florida.

But he my mom goes, or my brother said something a degree of like, you know, that's why dad blah blah blah, it's a better parent, et cetera, cetera.

You know, you know how it is he did of the argument, Well, she goes, well, guess what, motherfucker, that guy that you're so proud about ain't even your real fucking dad.

So so this has already happened once.

Bro, there's some dude down in Calia smash my mom when my dad's overseas.

My dad's piping out these Asian chicks, dude in Thailand and shit like overseas and she's piping out something at the club in San Diego.

Uh So, yeah, like that's kind of cool, bro, I got a giant as family.

Now it's kind of tight, dude.

Speaker 3

I mean, at least it was her high school sweetheart.

Speaker 2

So Mommy to Ratchet, I was, see, here's a kicker, dude.

I look just like my brother.

So I'm sitting there shipping myself like I'm gonna have it hurt.

He's got like his dad's like kind of I don't know how to even say this without even being mean.

He's just hm hmm.

I don't know.

He's just a you know, not a desirable person.

Let's just say that little little, little but ugly and uh sketchy passed.

So my mom, you know.

But so I'm thinking, like, great, I got this.

Motherfucker's dad comes out.

Turns out it turns out he's like a Navy seal and went to desert storm and fucking I don't know, it's like a sniper, and I don't know, it's pretty cool.

Speaker 3

Yeah, that's so weird.

Speaker 2

It's weird.

Speaker 3

It documentary about this show.

Speaker 2

I know, right, check your DNA's guys, you might have another daddy out there.

I said, isn't that kind of cool?

What if you're a dude and you've lost your your cheek and you lost your father and it's a very sad feeling, it's very depressing, like going through that with my dad's medical stuff.

It's like, you know, we talked about that he's gonna go down and you might have some guy or her mom out there that or I guess, guy, uh that's your you know, you could have a whole nother relationship with you know, imagine being twenty years old, you lose your father and then you find out you your actual real dad her somewhere, and it sucks that it went the way it went.

But I don't know, I think that's fuck cool, bro.

Speaker 3

Yeah, I'd be interested to see what you guys have in common.

Past looks like a lot.

Speaker 2

I looked at it.

I was like, I was, that's what my mom got all giddy when and stuff we're talking about this.

I'm thinking, like, man, he must have a fucking hog on him or something.

He's like, She's like, yo, he's the one that got away, and uh, I'm sitting here thinking like, no, dude, Yeah, we have a lot in common.

Bro.

He likes to dress up and goof around.

He likes to mess with bows.

Uh you know yeah, he's uh good around like me.

Yeah.

I don't know.

That's cool, man, that's kind of neat.

Dude.

Speaker 3

Well, congratulations on your new found family.

Speaker 2

I guess maybe if you even want, you know, so you know how that goes.

Man, he might trip out and be like yo, fuck off.

But I was looking at being a little creeper on his Facebook and like his firstborn daughter, you know, was like, oh, my firstborn daughter, and I thought, dude, isn't that kind of cool?

Like show up firstborn son, jack that ship by like fifteen years.

Prisely when you're a middle child.

Yes, now that's let's move on.

Let's move on.

Speaker 3

Alright, alright, No, that was great.

It was a good good opener.

It makes me happy.

Speaker 2

Yeah.

Maybe YouTube let has passed since it wasn't weed content.

Speaker 5

Yeah yeah maybe maybe yeah talking about open blasting, blasting, Yeah, my Instagram account has been getting restricted more and more every day.

I think he just restricted my ship to where I can't look at other people as followers.

So I had to feel it and then and they're like, okay, we can see that we made an error again.

But it's like just from sorry as nothing better to do with their lives and being little weirdos for me saying I'm.

Speaker 2

Fucking this and that I just don't care about it.

Man, somebody reports it and deletes, it's like, fuck it, bro, I was making another one.

Speaker 5

Yeah, once you hit like twenty eight thousand, you're like, you think about all the fucking posts I've ben making posts on there since it started.

Speaker 2

Like hey, but it's inevitable for me.

Yeah, well it's you know, for me, it's hard to keep up with just the Discord.

So it's like, you know, it's following and stuff.

It's cool, but uh, you know, I've it's it's different from you built your stuff solely up over time, so you uh, you know, you met a lot of people as you went, and I mean you you carved out a lane for a lot of guys like us in the Discord to kind of fast track and show up and make a lot of friends doing and uh yeah, like I mean just being involved in that in the Discord, i'd I don't really feel the need to go on Instagram much and really get that satisfaction that some people get from posting.

H I got my homies for the last three years that I've been grown with uh that Uh, you know, I talk to you every day, so you know, a lot of people will write me on an Instagram met and I'm sorry that I'm right back, but I'm fucking busy and my time goes towards the people in the Discord before anybody else.

So I do apologize, but I got to make some kind of priorities and stuff.

Speaker 5

I'm the same way with Instagram, Like it's been so many times where it's been reported, take it down, brought back up, take it down.

Speaker 3

Brought back up.

Speaker 5

It's like, I don't even post week content there.

Speaker 3

You know it's not it's not friendly to it.

Speaker 5

It makes it an easy laying for someone that doesn't like you just all day you know.

Speaker 2

Yeah, I don't even use it.

So when I see how do you how do you get reported?

Bro?

And I've been posting the week stuff and about it, I just let me do whatever.

Bro, I got that double white privilege with a two dad now, like I'm looking a bunch of unplageable dude.

Speaker 3

I don't know, you're just laughing over there.

Speaker 5

Man, I know he's Mexican.

We need to find out whose real dad he is that kind.

Speaker 2

Of cool man, let's go.

That's a quest.

I went an a four hour quest if I'm my motherfucking dad yesterday Matt using using uh you know, dominating recessive traits, using twenty three of me using my mom's late night stories from back in nineteen eighty eight getting piped out after the movie Your Books.

Uh yeah, yeah yeah, but she's Entucky.

Speaker 3

Uh.

Speaker 2

We were just like this all happened literally last night.

So I'm I've like just kind of been processing all this today.

Speaker 3

And you know, Sweetheart, he's in there.

Speaker 2

I mean he is in there.

They dated the ninth grade and ship.

But yeah, man, I've been I've been busting ass outside and the outdoor grow dudes.

I've been busy.

You know, Uh what's not going on out there?

Uh?

Stuff that you guys wouldn't no.

Uh, Well, I got Kim had the d the ninety one, the shore Line bubba uh something else.

A couple other cuts, uh, A couple of other cuts out there that I kept from my last run of Blue Sour Cut.

And then some autos that I chucked like six seven months ago that I'm just contesting and running them out to look at them.

And you know, got a I got a big bunch of like ting gallon potsa pop a bunch of autos in and I just kind of select select from that, and you know, if they're mailed the rigs.

So if I you know, if I want to think about just letting the mails dump on some of the legacy stuff and just trying to make a better auto, I guess over time, you know, if I can, no.

Speaker 3

Way to do it.

Speaker 5

Yeah.

Speaker 2

Fun, Hey, I have fun, you know, and just experiencing an outdoor growing a greenhouse, like I don't know, I want to try everything, man, I want to.

I want to try at least, you know, kissing guys, growing different styles, you know.

I think it's cool, bro, you know, different environments and maybe that in itself has been such a learning experience going from you know, somewhere down south to Michigan and it's like, holy ship, dude, It's a totally different, totally different thing.

So it's been fun.

Speaker 3

Yeah, I feel it.

Speaker 2

Go ahead, guys are going You got any.

Speaker 3

New dadies in your left troop?

Speaker 6

Now?

Just the same too, same too.

Speaker 3

That's awesome, that's good.

That's good.

Only need too.

I've had three four dads, well four if you kept.

Speaker 2

Yeah, well I got four two if you count Denalion my stepdad.

Speaker 5

Up there.

Speaker 3

I got mind my stepdad that's been with my mom since.

Speaker 2

I don't know.

Speaker 3

Six, I don't know how long they've been together.

Speaker 2

Have you had a better Have you had a better relationship with any of your stepdads than your real dad?

Speaker 3

I never had a bad relationship with my real dad.

Speaker 5

He's just he was always in and out of prison for dealing and so he would be out for eight years or doing a wild ship like you know what I mean, Like he's crazy.

Speaker 3

He's still crazy.

Speaker 5

But we have a we have a decent We didn't talk for some Yeah, we have a decent relationship.

Speaker 3

I get we never played.

It was a mean.

Speaker 5

One of my stepdads is a complete fuck and this one has been like a real dad, like an anytime I move, you know, he's always there doing ship.

Speaker 3

Yeah he's cool.

So there are good step dads out there, just far few between.

Speaker 2

Hey, shout out Tim Uh.

He's British as fuck.

I love you, bro.

He moved over to He left his family behind in England to come and live with my mom.

So she must got some fire ass snatch because everybody's trying to get her pregnant, and the dudes from across the sea to get it.

Speaker 3

So you see a picture of your mama.

Speaker 2

Now, she's cute.

But shout out to the stepdads.

He took care of my ass too.

Bro.

You know I gotta give it, you know, credit where credit is due.

Speaker 5

Yeah, it's it's rare to find a good step dad.

So shout out to the step dads.

Out of here, and of course yeah, biological biological bad.

Speaker 2

Yeah, if I have any real dads or double dads or two point zeros, i'd fucking i'd ask to adopt my ass.

I fucking.

Speaker 5

I have that to adopt my ass's true.

Speaker 3

And it's true in the true it's true, it's true.

Speaker 2

Yeah, I love that motherfucker.

Speaker 5

Yeah, kindly, kindly, Yeah, I had a funny thing happened today.

Like I've been lately, some dudes have been digging into the whole the music scene here, local punk rop music scene.

Speaker 3

So I've been seeing a lot of my old band.

Speaker 5

Stuff popping up, like people popping up with and you know, there's vinyl some stuff, and then there's lots of videos, and then today someone posted one from our wrestling band.

So it's kind of like a time capsule.

Look at that ship.

I don't remember doing a.

Speaker 3

Lot of it.

Speaker 5

I was on a lot of drugs, but yeah, it's funny to watch me show up with Pete Bunny or referee.

Speaker 3

That's two size too small.

Speaker 2

Hey, when you when you were doing going through that, were you doing drugs because it was like part of the scene, or were you doing drugs to like get in the mood for the shows or was it to like I know, for me, when I was making music for a while, I would I got into smoking kind of heavy because I felt like it inspired me and brought me to a different mind and set to like make more creative and kind of like open my brain a little bit more to new ideas.

So like for you, was there a way to like get through the shows from performing or was that just something part of the vibe of what you guys did, or like, like what what brought that on?

Are your friends like location like we all did.

Speaker 5

We all drank a lot, so like from a young age, it was natural for me when I'm hanging out with my friends to be blasted out drunk.

Speaker 3

So I was always there, but the pills came in.

Speaker 5

One of my best friends was on pills for his ear, and like early on to be like here a takeap this.

Speaker 3

Will make you more fucked up when you.

Speaker 5

Drink Yeah, And then eventually it switched over to this will make you more fucked up, then drink it, you know, so, but like I mean, I really feel like when I quit opiates, I couldn't write music anymore.

Speaker 3

I wasn't interested in playing music.

Anymore.

I didn't have the want to be in a crowd or in front of a crowd or do any of that shit.

But I was fucked up.

I'd do whatever.

Speaker 5

I didn't care, you know.

So there's a lot of that to it, But I think a lot of it was focused, Like it slowed me down enough for my brain to slow down enough.

Speaker 3

To be able to create.

Speaker 2

Well.

I could relate with the uh the wee because I mean a lot of people are asking me why do I smoke blunt?

Sometimes?

You know, I smoke blunt, so uh, you know, when I obviously because of Reggie, but you know, when I was making music in my early twenties and stuff and doing that shit, I lived with one of my good buddies and we didn't have like internet or nothing, so I literally just made beats on I don't know if people know it fel studio or foodoo loops.

At the time, I was messing with fruity loops and I was making like beats and ship and uh yeah, man like something about a blunt walking around making beats, you know, doing it.

It just was part of the routine and became the way I was how I was creative I'd stay up all nights, you know, nicotine and we getting blasted bro not sexually, but getting blasted, and yeah, just making beats, and uh, I would find that, yeah, if I didn't smoke a blunt or when I would go through stages of being a broke boy for a while not having a weed.

I try to make music and I felt flat, dude, or like a block, like writer's block or something, and I fucking since I get that weed, like fucking bopping in there.

My mom's getting cloud out and just fucking you know, doing my shit.

Speaker 3

But yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't play music anymore.

I really check up my guitar or touch it.

I don't do that anyways.

If there's someone else in the house, I can hear for whatever reason.

Like I used to playing shows, but now I don't ever like people to play.

It's real fucking weird.

Speaker 2

I don't touch them any instruments me too.

With the process of making beats, especially when you're developing melodies, it's like really repetitive because the way I'll do it is more on like a dollar system.

So it's not like I don't really I've played trumpet and progression for two years back when I was a kid.

But you know, actually like reading music a lot of it.

I'm doing sting it by ear and having fun because I mean, I'm not doing show.

So yeah, I don't know what the fuck we're going on, tangents.

Sorry, guys, gals, this is what we do.

We get back.

Speaker 3

Already gives a ship out of our music.

Speaker 2

Yeah, but post video of it in the discord for those that do.

Speaker 3

You can see me wearing pink bunny ears and referee shirt and the wrestling.

Speaker 5

Actually, the dude who posted it was our basis and he didn't even He's like, I'm cutting out the wrestling, even though that's why everybody came to see that band play.

Speaker 3

He's like, I'm just leaving that for the people who are there.

And I was like, well the fuck.

Speaker 5

I want to see that ship as it was a wild Those guys used to kill each other in our band.

I was the referee, so I only take bumps, but they fucking legit hurt each other bad.

Speaker 3

Really bloody, So yeah, I want to see all that shit anyway.

Speaker 5

Screw what do we have for questions relating to the topic back crossing can't cross ibl s one?

Speaker 3

Where should we take.

Speaker 6

It, okay, So from dizzy depths, if you take two S one seeds from the same mother and reverse one on the other, are the resulting seeds S two R one or something different.

Speaker 3

I mean the R one thing, if I remember correctly.

Speaker 5

The first time I saw that used was referring to recombinant genetics, which doesn't really have to do with necessarily reversing, so it's more of a.

Speaker 3

Scientific tool type things.

I understand it.

We use the term like F one R.

So I'll start off with this.

Speaker 5

F one's very loaded term because we want to use that in cannabis.

But most of what we work with the cannabis are true f ones.

F ones are like Afghani cross to tide, Afghani cross to some long flowering African.

Speaker 3

It's two.

Speaker 5

Different parents, distinctly different genotypes cross together.

Definition of an F one, they are acrossing two polyhybrids together in the first place.

Speaker 3

Even if you're reversing coling F one is iffy.

Speaker 5

But a lot of these terms we're trying to adapt to cannabis, and cannabis is a lot different than other plants.

Speaker 3

It's a lot more variant, it's a lot more dependent on environment.

For expression.

Speaker 5

There are other plants out there like that, but it's I don't know those terms and those plants, and we have the terms we loosely use in this that don't really apply.

When I was making the Codex, which is Codex dot Breeders to get dot com, I had to learn to like adapt using terms because I was starting off with land races and stuff like that, entering those in is parental lines p one, like starting with Afghany Mexican, you know, Afghani Colombia and things like that that were real common in across and is when we started getting into like modern hybrids that have stayed and made a big difference in the scene, which is what the Codex really is is strains that have changed cannabis that reported to know about.

Speaker 3

I had to start using terms like pH.

Speaker 5

F one polyhybrid F one too for my own brain to be able to establish the nomenclature for the parented, and that's kind of what I went with.

I don't know that it's ever going to be adopted, which wasn't my intention.

It was more of my intention to be able to correctly use equations to to break down parentage, and that was the best thing I came up with was pH F one for polyhybrid f ones.

Speaker 3

But yeah, with with something like that one or R have one reversal.

Speaker 5

Some people don't even like denoting reversals, but I think that's important to know because you'd want to know if there was a feminized work in the line, because it will tell you how far it took it forward.

When it comes to recessor traits, it can bring them out faster by using a reverse parent.

By reversed, I mean grade with spray, turn that female to a male, have it attack that female with its pollen balls.

Speaker 3

What else is there?

Yeah, I get, I'll leave it there.

Speaker 2

I don't know.

Speaker 3

I think I answered it well.

Speaker 1

I think.

Speaker 6

In what you were what you were talking about with the adding like the R and stuff, and how it's kind of you know, controversial, I guess, or debatable on whether or not we're still kind of in that transition phase of trying to come to a consensus on on what.

Hey, you know, this is solidified as as what these things mean, And I think it's important to add as much data as possible as because you never know down the line, you know, like how you were how you were just talking about with the you know, I important to add the reversal it.

We might not know why yet, but somewhere down the line that could be the Hey, this is what makes this one different is that they reversed it.

Let's look into that.

Speaker 5

A good example would be like when the subterfuge termed on some plants that I had of subterfuge has the ABC type traits, which are the almost like IV leaf traits in cannabis, and usually you don't see those two at three like, start seeing those pop up at the twenty five percent range.

But because it was reversed, even if on accident and hit something, they were popping up in the very first hybrid, because reversing brings out those recessive genetics faster, recessive trades faster.

Speaker 3

In that case, knowing it was reversal would explain.

Speaker 5

Why we were seeing that and why people would be seeing that in further working with the plant.

Speaker 2

You know.

Speaker 5

So that's just a good example of a reason to have to do that.

Someone pointed out earlier.

I should mention also like when we're writing this stuff out for I mean, I look at it like algebraic equations.

The female starts on the left, the male is always on the right starts with the female.

Speaker 3

Male is always going to be on the right side.

Speaker 5

If it's a reverse female, it's still going to be on the right side because it's producing the pollen.

I see a lot of breeders out there not knowing that, which is like it used to be gay one and if you fuck that up and throw on the forums like put the male first, people would chew you up.

But nowadays I don't even think people care that much about it.

You know, there are people that care about it, but not dom Yeah, it's a niche thing to hear this much about it in the first place.

Speaker 2

Receiver Sla don or fam remember.

Speaker 6

Yeah, well, it lets you know what's going on, Like it makes it to where we can talk to each other even about really old things that happened a long time ago, all of that stuff, and have essentially like a shorthand on being able to know exactly what we're talking about.

Speaker 2

Yeah, yep, I got a question there, met or somebody made a comment there.

Speaker 3

Oh, let's see.

Speaker 5

Uh well, Matt, can we get Coon on again with his version of the Neville and old School stories.

Speaker 3

I don't know cot no devil, I don't know.

Speaker 5

The Yeah, I haven't talked to old Coot in a long time, so yeah, it'd be cool.

He's a great guy to talk to.

He's amazing with organic gardening and soil mixes and stuff.

Speaker 3

Be good.

It would be good.

Speaker 2

Got kt over on Twitch shout out Donald twitch watchers.

Sorry, guys, I'm fucking bake Gosh should be reading.

I don't know if I put twitt, I don't know.

He says he watched it.

Maybe he didn't.

I don't know.

Up guys to check chronic worm farmer says, I can see the lubricating on my desk.

Brother, Well, I know you're fucking lying because I use Big Lougi's only to it to spin on it.

Speaker 5

Here was a good question, and this is a side right, what's up with the Alaskan vintage blueberry supposedly predates DJ's work, So another good blueberry question.

I actually had that clone, and when it was given to me, that whole story about being pretty DJ didn't exist.

It was from a guy named Dean's Beans on Instagram, just guy pop and see.

Speaker 3

And he gave it to a K.

B.

Brains and it.

Speaker 5

Was absolutely a DJ short Blueberry was a modern DJ blueberry, and it was.

It had very heavy pre flowering traits, so semi auto people would use the term.

It was lightly blueberry muffin.

It was no potency, but it had a great smell.

It was resinous.

It would trigger into flower faster, so that could be something people would like on it.

But yeah, there's no like how people always talked about pre DJ blueberry.

As far as it goes into the genetics that are out there today, I don't know that there is any pre DJ blueberry archive.

Well, I should say, mouchi man aka, what's that kind of rare daintness?

Scott Riach he had a clone called Old Blue from his brother that was supposed to lead pre DJ short maybe a big.

Speaker 3

Bud type or something like that.

I don't know.

Speaker 5

I've never had it archives that he didn't have it anymore, but it still did it as collective.

Speaker 3

How that works, I don't know.

Might be, but I don't know.

Speaker 2

That's where's my.

Speaker 3

Story with it.

I can't confirm it until I see it in front of me.

Speaker 2

Hey, where's my form cut?

Speaker 3

Oh?

Speaker 5

Hey, whenever I'll tell you you might have you might have a.

Speaker 2

Man?

Don't say these things.

I'm getting zigger bro g c forum cut.

Speaker 3

Yeah, some stuff on the way for.

Speaker 2

The crew though.

Yeah, yeah, hush, it's very ushush get.

Speaker 3

For those clone dorms.

Yeah, yeah, fucking things, man.

Speaker 7

I ain't nobody want to know clone some montherfucking seeds man.

Speaker 5

Exactly exactly, all right, So we we we kind of briefly went through reversals.

Speaker 3

So that's you know, S one, there's S two.

Speaker 5

Like, so if someone S one something self sick sels a clone and they're going in the same direction as said clone, that would be a S two.

Intent of direction.

Breeding direction is everything, and that leads us on to back cross.

Speaker 3

What is a back cross?

Speaker 5

A back cross would be taking a say, for example, I always like to use these two bubble gum and blueberry because it's easy for people to remember.

Let's say we have a bubble gum female a blueberry male, and we want to.

Speaker 3

Make more seeds of it.

Speaker 5

But we didn't have a bubblegum male.

Speaker 3

We only have the blueberry male.

Speaker 5

So what we're gonna do is we're gonna take that bubble gum female across it to a blueberry male and then take that resultant progeny select for bubblegum traits, find a male that represents those bubblegum traits, which is hard in cannabis to do.

Speaker 3

It's very hard to know.

Speaker 5

What direction of mail is not only going to breathe, but what it's expressing in itself, and cross that back to the female.

Resulting seeds theoretically should at least hopefully show one a single trait that you're selecting for.

That would be a b X one.

The intent has to be there to match it to the original parent.

That would be a back cross, a true back cross.

Speaker 3

People use the term, but it's like I'm.

Speaker 5

Just gonna hit this with this this male.

No, I'm gonna hit it back again to the female and all those seeds.

Speaker 3

You know, buck it.

Speaker 5

It's all good, you know, but there has to be some intent in the breeding.

That's what breeding is.

Otherwise it's just trying to play, and playing is a valid way to make seeds and sell them.

You know, it's worked for a long time.

Speaker 2

It looks we weren't reading the chat earlier, but it looks like he had a guy.

They had the same story as me, but with the whole dad.

That's crazy.

Yeah, well we'll go back to it at the end.

Do let's keep it on the strange stuff now.

Yeah, yeah, I.

Speaker 3

Have a bunch of aka bean genetics.

Are they all bs?

Speaker 2

I mean, you know, Okay, a good job, Matt, good job positivity, fa that's a good day.

Oh yeah, I got all kinds of good stories.

But you guys, finally get for good weather out there, Matt.

It's finally starting to be nice here, dude, it's trying up.

The greenhouse is tall.

Was pretty nice.

Today is tolerable, pretty horrible.

Speaker 5

It's been so hot the sun is directly like ten inches above my face here.

Speaker 3

This is hell.

Speaker 2

Shout out anyways, Yeah, gang, when when.

Speaker 5

I speak about these terms, the breeding terms, breeding is done with intent.

Otherwise, what are we doing?

You know, we're being creative.

You know we're crossing random things to random things and seeing what happens.

That's, like I said, there are guys that do that.

That's a valid way to make seeds.

Speaker 3

Lots.

I mean, people sold seats using that method for yours.

Speaker 5

So cool made a massive company just doing that.

Speaker 3

And his his theory was the more variation the better.

The more uniformity sucks.

You know, some people like tons of variation.

Speaker 5

I'm the opposite, Like I like to have the least amount of variation as possible, because I want to be able to say this, this is this, you can expect this, this and this, and people pop them go.

That's exactly what I saw.

That's what I'd like to do.

But not everybody's into that.

Some people do like the variants.

Speaker 2

That's something I appreciate about appreciate about your work, man, is you know the pictures you got on your website.

We ain't gonna say it, but when you pop them, it looks like a lot of times most of the shit like the blue sour h and a few other ones, a great blue high creamy punch, a few other ones are in that they all there was at least a plant that I grew that looked dead up like the picture.

Yeah, I do.

Speaker 5

I do a lot of f ones polyhybrids where I'll be like, Okay, this is this is playtime.

Speaker 3

This is time for me to see.

Speaker 5

Everything that I can do with this this specific mail or whatever.

I'll release them, but not everything I had to breathing.

But then there's things like the blue and Cross where I'm going in a fucking direction and I want to see almost every plant look similar.

I want them all to smell like some version of blue you know is going to be a breeding project?

Speaker 2

Is ever?

Is there a so when you're doing these chucks and making these crosses, all these polyhybrids and ship and some of them you're using like for example, resurrection toimes Mobile one or Mobile one or whatever, and then you take that and across it too, you know, uh whatever great blue hype, which is like obviously, So how like when you're if you're not naming them these strains something or or whatever, when you should do this chuck for example, because obviously when you're making seeds or chucking or whatever, you're gonna have a bunch of seeds.

They throw random plants in there, you can't.

I mean people make fun of like, oh, well, you know everybody was everybody naming something nowadays.

But like for me, for like a conver ar Screwston was talking about, for even a conversational standpoint, like how the fuck, Like I was really confused on this.

How do you properly label all this to show everything that makes it up?

Speaker 6

Right?

Speaker 2

Because instead of just being like, well, you know, Resurrection times gray blue hype, right, but you want to show what so I guess how's the proper way with like, uh, I don't even like the colons or brackets and stuff.

Is there a proper way to do all that you know, to show all that you know?

Yeah?

Speaker 3

Yeah there is.

Speaker 5

I mean you use brackets inside of brackets, like when I'm doing it, like on the computer, like the first set of like uh, like the first parent.

Let's say it's got bob gun across the blueberry is the first part of it that'll be in brackets, and there will be an outside bracket, and the next thing is crossed in is inside that bracket.

Speaker 3

Sometimes I'll use totally different.

Speaker 5

Looking brackets to help distinguish that, you know what I mean, and then onto the mail side do the same thing.

Speaker 3

But it's always like an equation.

It's everything should.

Speaker 2

Look like That's what I thought, But I've seen and it had done a couple of different ways with different like you were saying, different styles, So I was just kind of curious.

But yeah, I get the general gist of it, but I thought that was a good question.

Speaker 3

I think the different brackets is probably stupid, but.

Speaker 5

I do it just because for my brain, I want to be able to look at a glance and know exactly what it is.

Yeah, brackets and brackets essentially like an order.

Like in math, there's something called the order of operation.

So you know how what what you add together, subtract together, multiple together, and divide together, and what orders so you can get the actual number at the end to be correct.

That's kind of the order of operation of breeding.

It would be brackets email, the male brackets inside frosted another mail inside more rackets racket.

Speaker 2

Cool.

Speaker 3

Yeah, all right, what else you've got screwed?

Speaker 6

Let's see here?

Okay, how do you continue to track a line that has head reversals once you're a couple of gens into line breading or outcrossing.

And this is like the expanded question.

I have lines that started with or word narrowed by using selfing.

Then I took those lines further and then reversed it back onto the mother stock.

Okay, So like, so he got s one seeds and then took two selections, reversed one onto the other, and then from that select made a selection and crossed it back into the original mother stock that the s ones were made from.

Speaker 3

Okay, So I mean it really depends.

Speaker 5

So in answering this, at first, you want to know how different were those two expressions in that plant, because if you're just crossing to the two different expressions, you're gonna get gonna it's gonna still be narrowed because it's reversed, right, but it's not gonna be as open as saying, crossing two females, I'm sorry, a female and a male from a regular line.

It's gonna be less diverse than that, but still more diverse than say, selfing the seeding plant.

Speaker 3

Like I, it's tricky.

Speaker 5

It's a tricky one because, like I, if I were doing that, I would just be selfing, selfing, selfing, as opposed to working back to the mom and just doing selections on only selecting stuff that looks exactly like the mom.

Speaker 3

If that's what I want to do, and make the seed.

Speaker 5

Line uniform as opposed to crossing it to a sister of itself and then crossing that back to the mother.

So you're opening it up and then narrowing it in a way, and it's it's kind of it's it's artistic at best.

I'd say, yeah, I mean it's maybe it works, but it also depends on how narrow the line was initially, and that's What it boils down to, how how narrow was the line that you started with the parent you started with, How well how worked was the line that that selection was taken from.

Because people always ask like, can I take something.

Speaker 3

To F ten?

Will that be uniform?

Speaker 5

And they don't understand, like, well, it depends how uniform was the line that that that selection, the very first selection that you used that that came from.

How narrow was that line initially?

Was it highly variant?

Because that means you're going to have to work it further.

If it was very narrow, you're not going to need to work into F ten.

That's kind of ridiculous, and and in most cases, working stuff to F ten is ridiculous.

You shouldn't need to work anything like that that far if you know what you're doing, and and you're you're carefully selecting, and if something doesn't working out going back to the original seeds re selecting like.

Speaker 3

High loans it does.

Speaker 2

I was literally about to say that.

Speaker 3

To F five and go back to F two.

Speaker 2

If he's not happy, If you perfections, If you don't know who high Loansome is, look him up, do your research.

If you know he's readers, look up to a good guy.

Speaker 5

Best way I can put it.

Someone asked about snow high again.

I'll give you the same answers that I gave a key being brains.

Speaker 3

Does it sound like I have hemorrhoids or something?

I think that's the best I can give you.

Speaker 2

I got plenty of hemorrhoids.

If someone's wanting to him, yeah.

Speaker 3

Stony Baker, what's up?

Speaker 5

Brother?

I want to have Study Baker on the show with the Nalli and you guys, he's fucking hilarious.

Speaker 3

One of my favorites to watch.

Speaker 2

Hey, if anybody, yeah, we need to get it some more people on the show.

I want to get Dan back on.

I love talking, get back on the ship.

I'm gonna stop your pooper if you don't, no Mozola.

Speaker 5

Anyway, what else we got to screw?

Did I answer that one because I kind of ramble and wonder drink coffee?

Speaker 6

Uh yes, yes, okay, good, okay, But I did Actually I did have a question on that.

Do you do you think that that would be like a valid way of trying to like introduce I don't know if you were trying to like link two traits together or something from from an individual to then like kind of reintroduce it back into the into the line together.

Speaker 5

Okay, I see taking it forward from there, like crossing two sisters and reversing that together.

We've seen a great example of this with Bitter took my p ninety one s onees.

He found two sisters that were similar but had some different traits and took it forward.

That is valid that like as far as trying to make something new from that.

But then if you're crossing something back to the mother, then the selections that you have that you pulled out of it, you would kind of be moving it back a step.

So it just in my brain, I can't think of any situations where that would lead to locking in any traits in reverse.

When it comes to reversing like that crossing two siblings and then using the resulting progeny back to the mom, you should already be selecting that first.

Speaker 3

Round to look the most like the mom.

Speaker 5

I could see taking that one, reversing it to the mom and taking it forward introducing a sibling that's not quite the same.

Speaker 3

It just it throws it off.

I don't know if it makes sense.

Speaker 2

But yeah, yeah, no that does.

Speaker 6

That does You're ty the you know?

I guess the whole intended goal is to move forward, like genealogically, in a good direction, whatever you know that is for your situation or what you're doing.

Speaker 5

I think some of the biggest flaws in cannabis started with Brothers Great and there's Cinderella ninety nine, and back in the day, it was the idea was they had this tup called Princess, and they were going to put Princess, which was a clone into seed form into regular seed form.

Speaker 3

So they crossed Princess to something else I don't.

Speaker 5

Remember what the fuck it was, and they made regular seats and then they crossed it back to the mom and made more seeds, crossed it back to the mom again, and then make more seeds and crossing back to the mom again, and then you have Cinderella ninety nine being it's gonna be ninety nine percent like the mom.

Speaker 3

But that's without any implied selection.

Speaker 5

That's just with using basic bromath on how genetics should work in their heads, and what turned out to be was highly variant shit.

Back crossing makes sense to do once and then carry it forward.

You don't want to keep back crossing, back crossing, back, pussing back crossing because you're inbreeding and unless you're doing a precise precision to know what you're really doing, then you're just going to end up with highly variant in bread stuff, which is similar to what DJ Short did with blueberry, and why, in my opinion, have lost all of the blueberry scent and flavor and what is out there in seeds from the stuff that that family uses.

Speaker 2

I'll always remember that respect, that's right.

I will always remember you, Matt in the.

Speaker 7

Discord Backgross singes for locking in and s one is for locking in, and you move forward, one trading at a time, one at a time.

Speaker 2

It's ridiculous.

It's ridiculous.

I think you can look into it once.

Uh but uh, gaming ask, where do you get your autos?

Chuck?

So I've collected autos from basically every auto sea Chucker make your want to be a breader that you could think of over the last four or five years.

And I guess like I had a year and a half two years ago, I started taking uh some red autos and regulars and making my own and now I'm just kind of running out those populations and stuff.

So yeah, but I mean you can anyone can look them up.

Everybody knows who the auto guys and the people are.

I'm not really here to plug them or anything, so.

Speaker 3

Just to get plugged by them.

Speaker 2

Well I will say, I will say my fist thos got some pretty good good autos.

They're all right, the fisters, mister fister.

Yeah, yeah, that's it.

Speaker 3

Okay, we have some other good questions screw today in the discord.

Anything else you want to swing in?

Speaker 6

Yes?

Uh so, probably bored?

Asked be best methods for f twoing a single pack i e.

Difference in a one to one male to female single selection type situation, or like you know, a more narrowed but but also still kind of open you know, a couple of males, couple of female type thing, or just an op.

Speaker 5

Okay, So again it starts with the intent.

What's your intent with what you're doing?

What is the plan in your head?

Are you looking for a single outstanding outline female and what you're doing and taking that forward?

Are you trying to keep the line or you're taking the line make it more uniform, or are you trying to see what's deep in those genetics in those lines?

And like I said, find an outlier or many outliers and then take that forward to preserve a line for other people.

Preserving the line for other people so that everyone can you know, pop those seeds and find everything in that line.

Speaker 3

That's a good case for open pollination, which means.

Speaker 5

Every male, it's every female, combining the seeds diversities there bam.

Or you can even keep the seats segregated if you're real anal like me and you know, mismash them up for some people and sell it, but keep them segregated so you can only go back to each one.

That's a good case for open pollination.

I'm so angle about uniformity and trying to move stuff forward that you know, I mean, But they're like, or are are you, like I said, uh, selecting an outstanding female for clone purposes?

Speaker 3

You know, like, are you not even making seeds with it?

Speaker 5

So yeah, I don't know, there's different You have to have different intents or you have to know what you're.

Speaker 3

Doing for the beginning to know what method you want to use, because each method has a purpose.

Speaker 2

Really yeah, unless you are just a chucker and you're fucking.

Speaker 3

Yeah or yes you're not, you're not check you're.

Speaker 2

Not fucking as it were, DNA genetics night out Greenhouse Sea Company.

But I've been with Greenhouse Sea Company since ninety one.

Speaker 3

Hold on, hold on?

Where is he is?

Speaker 2

Hey issue?

Me an from Greenhouse shids.

I've traveled the world collecting some of the greatest land last genetics that you've ever seen.

Speaker 3

There, they are getting it.

Speaker 2

Have you ever seen my Shawl Stein Hunters?

Speaker 3

He sounds more ostrich.

Speaker 2

Yeah, we can travel the world and steer the genetics because he sounds like Arnold.

Shout out gold Cut, shout out gold Cut.

Speaker 3

I love that dude.

Speaker 2

I like him.

Two, he's funny.

Speaker 5

Yeah, we just got him out some stuff for people in Europe.

Right see Europe, right seek Europe.

I don't know if it's I g pages to lux.

People are just hitting everyone.

So yeah, but right Sea Co Europe.

Gold Cut.

You to have a brand new batch there.

Oh before I forget, also have Google pay, Apple pay and devid.

Speaker 3

On the main site now, so yes, let's believe it at that.

Speaker 2

Oh yeah, back up, back up and ready cock strong, rocking hard.

I like it.

Speaker 3

No, blue pill, he gets you one.

Speaker 2

There, chuck blue pill.

Speaker 5

No, it's blue pill, yes, and wire.

Speaker 2

I like what is that with the payments things.

Speaker 3

Yeah, yeah, merchant account, that.

Speaker 2

Would be cool.

Oh, people want some shirts petal and them shirts.

I'm out on the block pedal and shirts, maam ship.

I got a whole rushing crew out of Detroit rocking my ship right now.

Speaker 5

He actually takes white t shirts, washes and resells them.

Speaker 2

My wife makes the tide eyes and I I make well, well, we'll take of another.

We'll talk about another time.

Speaker 5

Man.

Speaker 2

Yeah, I was thinking about making a white runt shirt just so I could rip it in half with the Kim Dog shirt underneath.

But I was like, I might get in trouble.

Uh you know if I do something like that, So I don't know, they might not like that.

Speaker 3

Lupus, it's good ship.

Speaker 2

I need to get I got that one.

I need to run that one.

Dude, I don't let me get it go in man.

I've been loving with the other the diesel stuff too.

Speaker 3

Especially.

Speaker 5

There's a reason that that I kept that cloone for so many years.

Everybody else dropped it because they, you know, had her issues with it.

It didn't take the time to learn it for whatever reason.

It wasn't Kim Dog.

It wasn't one of the numbers, was it Kim Dog twenty one, Kim Dog eleven.

Speaker 3

None of those Kim Kim be was it the kim beat.

Speaker 5

So yeah, I kept it because it was my favorite at the best flavors for my tastes, had the most skunky smells, So yeah, and yeah, I'm glad I did.

Speaker 3

People were learning about it all over again because of that.

Speaker 2

That's cool.

Speaker 5

Let's see Hill, I'm getting Matt's Blueberry finally since got a way of paint out Matt, which pastor I get the inn Cross get it way you can if you want.

Speaker 3

If you want blue, blue, blue, blue blue.

Speaker 2

Go for that blue shower, fam That's what I.

Speaker 5

Was all in love with blue all over again because there were many years it was really hard to love blue, and I was one of those people that just gave up for a while.

Anything about the Blooper Scump, it's the super scumk across the Blueberry and it has the best of both worlds in it that Diesel had really really had mouth coating traits, like we talked about with sour with o G.

Speaker 3

It's it's very flavorful.

Speaker 5

The blue can dominate, but Diesel also holds its own sometimes in there.

But I think the Blue tends to pop up more in the in the blooper Skunk and Diesel will pop through.

Speaker 3

Usually it'll look like diesel with more density.

Speaker 5

In the nuts because diesel is a little fluffier when it's when it flowers.

Speaker 2

Yeah, what about for all the little young books out there that want some sweet GMO butthole turbs?

Do you get that for them?

To Matt Gmo?

Speaker 3

You know what I think?

I just sold the last pack of GMO Blue.

Speaker 2

On it Bush.

Speaker 3

No, I mean I have like for me, there is just I didn't realize how few.

Speaker 5

I kept the last last the last of the last of the.

Speaker 2

Last last pack spams.

Speaker 3

Until I get broke.

See they can have my last patch is I got to go rework it.

I don't know.

Like Domo is great.

I thin it's a great smoke.

Speaker 5

I like the smells of it and stuff, but it's pretty dominant for the smells and crossing it to Blueberry.

Speaker 3

I don't know.

Speaker 5

I mean it's a great it's a great uh GMO regular Sea line, but I don't really have any interest in taking it for there's so much GMO shit out there that I don't really care.

I get too Yeah, but it's a great line.

I think it's a great cut.

But yeah, for me, there's so much out there.

I don't want to add.

Speaker 3

To what everybody else is doing.

Speaker 2

I'm just thinking of all the guys out there, Matt, the young guys.

Oh, Gmo, Yeah.

Speaker 3

Don't touch it, Gmo.

Speaker 2

I'm not.

Speaker 5

I'm not.

Speaker 3

How hard do you think would be to narrow the looper skunk to a cheesel red line.

Not very hard.

Speaker 5

Just get get pop a lot of seats.

You'll know the skunky one that comes out that isn't very blueberry, and work in that direction.

Speaker 3

It's pretty easy like that.

How big is glooper skunk outdoors?

It depends on how big your pots are.

Speaker 5

But it doesn't grow super super super tall ninky because the blue bonnet in it.

In the Blooper skunk was very short squad Afghani, so it does shrinks from the stretch.

Speaker 3

Okay, screw.

Speaker 5

Is there anything else as far as good questions for breeding?

Speaker 2

Yes?

Speaker 6

Yes, okay, So Dizzy Dubs asked how many gens would it take to get to a true breeding line that is a stable as food crops like corn.

What would be the best way to get there?

Filial or selfing?

Speaker 5

So again it depends on how narrow the line was that the parent I came from was.

I mean, that's the first part of the equation.

If you want to do something like that, I would start with something like a deep chunk, you know, and taking that something that is already I mean it is it one uniform The uniformity lies in its resin production.

It's very dominant for the smell, but there are other smells in it, and it's very dominant looks wise, Okay, I would take something like that that is mostly or pretty close to an ivy l.

Speaker 3

As far as as cannabis goes.

Speaker 8

And self it self, it select really well when you self it self it every time for that same look at the same mom and then that that would be the fastest way to get to uniformity like a quarantzin crop or what have you.

Speaker 6

Yeah, So do you think that even then it would still be pretty difficult in the way that we since food crops, we look at so many extra things in uh in cannabis, like as far as selection, pressure, type stuff and whatnot, instead of just like flavor and size of kernels or whatever.

Speaker 5

Yeah, I mean, I don't know with corn and those kind of crops that that are very inbread and in uniform.

I don't know, like how how plastic their their genetics are as far as like diversity goes, like how much it relies on environment and feed changes all of that about it, like all of its expression.

Speaker 3

Can you turn it from a like in cannabis, like we talked.

Speaker 5

About like the UK cheese, you can take it from super fruity berry all the way to foot funk cheese in the same fucking clone.

Speaker 3

Like depending on.

Speaker 5

How you feed it, what kind of light source, humidity, all that stuff comes into play.

Speaker 3

I don't know.

Speaker 5

I don't know with a lot of other things how how that comes into play with other crops.

Speaker 3

I grow other crops, but like I don't breed.

Speaker 5

Other crops, so I don't know how they'll really comes into play with that kind of stuff.

Speaker 3

There already been work and I don't know for how long.

Speaker 6

Okay, okay, uh so this one is from chronic worm farmer.

Okay is renaming a strain for branding purposes ever justified?

Or should breeders respect the original lineage and give credit i e.

Popping the standout from GMO with different structure in aroma?

Should they market it under the new name, or still give credit.

Speaker 5

I mean, I could understand, So there's a few tears.

I can understand if someone selects something wildly different out of a line, like if it is someone releases an F one they have most of the plants look a certain way.

His name serves something, and someone takes a selection from it that's an outlier, totally different from anything that they're seeing in anything else, and it's not pollen contamination or whatever, and they want to market that clone as a specific cut.

That's cool, But at nope's point, should you be cutting people out of the providance record so you can show where these things came from and how you got them, because that's important.

Otherwise it's just your word, and people's word isn't always good enough, Like, for example, I use stuff for people I absolutely cannot stand, but I've never cut them out of the breeding line, Like if I use something from Swerve.

There's an alien, alien alien dog that I used for him.

I gave Swerve credit on that because he's I can't stand the guy at all, but he did make those seeds.

And if I were to cut that part out and just fudget, that fucks it up for anyone in the future when they see all these alien tech type traits or whatever's coming out of it, you want to know where those came from.

Speaker 3

It's not hard to be honest.

Speaker 5

So yeah, I would hope people would keep the story with everything so that they can have a good provenance track record to go back and explain where each thing came from, if they're really that serious about making seeds that matter.

Speaker 6

Yeah, I think it goes back to the whole trying to give as much information, as much data as possible.

You know, that's true and correct because if someone says something weird pops out of there, and someone in the future is trying to like, Hi, I wonder where that came out of, you know, like those types of things are important to have.

Speaker 3

Yes, I agree.

Speaker 5

Have you ever heard of one point five BX, two point five BX three point five BX aside for res dog, What do you think of those labels?

Speaker 3

You know, I've never heard of that.

Speaker 5

I don't know why someone would have a three point five unless they're saying like it's he used a different male each time, and it's the one point five version.

Speaker 3

Of a b X one.

Speaker 5

So the the you know, different males, uh, and back across to the female.

From that selection, I could see a reason for having V one, V two, V three like that, different versions of each thing one point five, like a b X one point five.

I don't know how that would even happen, but I don't.

I don't remember any of that situation.

Thank god, I didn't pay a lot of attention to rest in his asshole.

Speaker 3

Was is.

I don't know what he's like.

Speaker 5

Now.

Speaker 3

People still thinks we're of invented SMV.

Speaker 5

That's right, But unfortunately they also think he had a good coach's line.

Speaker 3

Yeah, if you were there for it, you know what else you.

Speaker 6

Got from a butcher two nine to seven.

When breeding for THHC, can two parents combine to raise the THC?

Or is it that specific or is that specific trait locked into whichever parent has a higher percentage?

Speaker 5

No, I think you could absolutely have two things combined and raise the TC percentage.

I mean, that's how we've got to where we've got.

Aside from lab labs fudging shit for higher numbers for their customers so that they get the German customers and whatnot, it's obvious that THHC percentage has been raised from where it was at like eight percent, you know, in the in the eighties and nineties, to where it's at now.

Speaker 3

Stories are a lot of that's right.

Speaker 5

And fucking but yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2

The Mallee it's like, you know, you take your take your kid, go fish and to catch you the fish this big and bad time.

He's at that truck.

It's this big, all right.

Speaker 5

He catches a tune of this big and then he takes a picture of it and blows it up because he's good at editing photos, and it looks that big.

Speaker 2

Or you or you know, you take a picture of your dongue and you try to make a little lot bigger than two inches.

It's hard, you know, downward upward lings.

Speaker 3

I love AI bro all right, I answer that one.

Screw half that answer, yeah, I think.

Speaker 6

I mean that's it's very obvious that you know, like, yes, that is how you you know, do it is just continually selecting for that trait that's you know, like everything was him.

But over a long course of time people have just continually been like, oh, that one's a cool one.

Speaker 3

Yeah man, it's drugs.

Speaker 6

Oh yeah, yeah, it doesn't go for just the higher person that inche one because when you you know, like Mendo p hybrids and ship just steamingly fall flat, you know, it takes a couple more steps to be able to actually pop something cool you.

Speaker 5

Know is true.

Speaker 3

I'd still love to know the real story on Mendo Burbs.

Speaker 2

I don't know.

Hey, it's possible, guys.

I found out who my dad was today.

Speaker 5

That's true, Monday, find that fucking real story of Mendo Burbs.

Speaker 3

We'll get there.

One day.

Speaker 5

In the mount, did a cross not sore if I call it a back cross or in cross in a F one male to female and I took a female from the F one seat and hit it back to the original boy I.

Speaker 3

Used to you can back cross to a male and and it you can do that.

Speaker 5

But again, like it's it's a lot harder to select for male traits because it doesn't have the same resin production and have the same scent production.

You know, it's really hard to select for any traits.

I mean, unless you're just going for structure as a trade, then I mean you could do it.

Speaker 3

A male b x one.

I've done male b x one.

We did the Platinum Banana.

It was the X one x one kind of thing.

Speaker 5

We did a few of them with that, trying to find the best mail to use out of that kind of stuff.

Speaker 3

Who's any other good questions we've got?

Speaker 2

Who's still out there?

Really, you know, working with rigs and ship I just want to blank guys to many edibles.

I'll think of it here in a second.

We're all fair, My bad.

Speaker 6

I know that was That was all of the questions that we had.

Every all the other questions got gott vert in, you know, like explanations and kind of getting into the more complexities of the answers.

Speaker 5

I know.

In cross I don't think I've covered in cross yet.

So in cross is a completely made up term for cannabis.

I like it because it denotes like if you're let's say you have a selection from an F one generation of line, and then you take someone takes that to three, or you take it to F three and you select a sibling.

Speaker 3

It's not from the same generation, but you cross them to each other.

It's not quite a back cross.

It's definitely not an F one.

Speaker 5

It's not a polyhybrid F one because it's still the same genes.

Speaker 3

That's when I would find that.

Speaker 5

Appropriate to use the term in cross or ix and be how we denote it short wise.

There's also IBL and I'm so anal about it drives me nuts.

Speaker 3

I brought it up briefly.

Speaker 5

The deep jump thing in bread line refers to uniformity, being uniform.

Speaker 3

For all trees, or maybe it's a single tree.

I don't remember.

Speaker 5

I don't remember off the top of my head, but you can't.

I would probably say it's in bread line for a single trade.

But it's uniformity of a trade.

So if it's not uniform, it's not IBL said very simply put.

Some people confuse like, oh, it's an F two it's inbread that's an inbread line.

That's not what it means.

In bread line is a very specific term from agriculture.

Speaker 2

So yeah, hell yeah, yeah, Chucky's booth adibles again and getting fucked up.

Yeah I am, I'm celebrated.

It's uh.

I almost.

This was probably the first time I almost didn't show up for a show.

I was thinking about giving you got some kind of weird excuse.

But that's like, I gotta show up for the boys and the girls in the chats, you know, right, I gotta do what I gotta do.

Sometimes, guys, when you're out there, you're in the garden.

It's sweating your balls to squash your ass sweat and you want to like, dude, I want to give up.

I got too many plans.

No, fuck that, you dig deep.

You know what I'm saying.

Be stmoded, bro, I'll get the fucking point.

I don't know anyways.

Speaker 5

Would you says CSI's lines or IBL I would he pops so many seeds to know, uh, how truly uniform a line is, like, so many more seeds than anybody I know that I would denote to him on whether he thinks the line is truly uniform for trade or all trades or what's going on there.

You fop so many fucking seeds that it's ridiculous to even try to say that any of this stuff wouldn't be if he seed as it is because it's populay more or whatever he's labeling than I have, and he knows what it means.

So yeah, I think that's my best answer for.

Speaker 2

I got a question, Yeah, why are you rocking that red hair when you fucking rock with the blueberries?

Why when you're gonna go back blue?

Speaker 5

I used to do it red and blue, but I noticed it starting to get a little thin, starting in and out a little bit, especially the last like six months.

Speaker 3

People making me lose my fucking hair.

Speaker 5

So you all some dog, Yeah, I could use something probably, but I know I stopped bleaching it because of that.

Speaker 3

I'm just letting the ship brown come out because I was.

Speaker 5

Like, is it my hair thinning or is it because I keep bleaching it or I don't know.

Speaker 2

Another thing is my dad has raised me, him and my brother, his biological kid, and his dad and everything else, my grandfather, they're all going bald as fuck, and I'm the only one with hair.

And I was always like, man like, I hope and I'll end up like them guys.

And then my dad, that my biological he's got full set of hair.

He's like six years old.

Damn bro, that's good ship.

Speaker 3

Yeah right, No, my little brother's balding on top already.

Speaker 5

And my grandpa on that side of my dad's side, it was a bald eight.

But my my father has full head of hair.

So I'm hoping I get the full head of hair.

Speaker 2

Yeah.

If they'll go bald, mad you shaving.

If I start going bald, you cant tell me.

I'm gonna shave my ship like bald ball, look like c ball, you know.

Speaker 3

Yeah, I got an ugly shaped head, so.

Speaker 2

A little bit of hair like a peanut head.

Bro, I got a uglass dome as big as what the hell.

Speaker 3

Got mold and ship.

Speaker 2

Yeah, that's the only way I ever got legs was there, grow my hair out and covered that fucking uglyass head I got.

Speaker 3

Yeah, you're kind of slow.

Speaker 5

Actually, all you young guys, I'm starting to get a little pissed because you're you're all better looking than me.

Speaker 2

I don't like this, dude.

I'm like mid thirties, don't even work, and I got a six pack.

Imaginets are amazing, dude, know why?

Yeah, dude, the Navy seal brought to American people.

What the hell?

Speaker 5

Right?

Speaker 2

That's really cool?

Speaker 3

All right, So if that's any other questions.

Speaker 2

Uh, In the chat, there was a guy I really that said he had he went through the same thing that I just went through in twenty twenty.

But his mom, uh kind of they just denied it a little bit.

But but hey, that's cool.

I was reading it's up to ten one to three percent of them all Americans or Americans was like roughly ten million people.

Your dad's not your dad, and I'm sorry, but you'd probably look into it.

Twenties.

Get that back from Child's you know you ship, Yeah happens, It happens.

Yeah, hell yeah, shout out to the dads out there and mom's there we go.

Speaker 3

Yeah.

I don't see anymore good questions in heres, so.

Speaker 6

No, there is one there?

Speaker 5

Okay?

Speaker 2

Is the Space Queen?

Speaker 6

Miss Jill has the same as the Space Queen by Brothers Grim.

Speaker 5

Brothers Grim didn't make Space Queen BCGA British company, British Columbia Grows Association made Space Queen, which was Romulin C ninety nine.

They did use ninety nine from Brothers Grim, Brothers Grim itself had nothing.

Speaker 3

To do with that.

She is using Space Dude.

Speaker 5

That subcol selected, which is a male from the Space Queen, but they called Space Dude because it was a male.

Speaker 3

And yeah, same cut.

Speaker 5

That's been around for a long time now, I mean probe twenty fucking years, so that cut still is being used.

Speaker 3

And yeah, but definitely not Brothers Grim, even though Brothers Grim C.

Ninety nine wasn't in it.

C ninety nine does have a really.

Speaker 5

Dank pineapple fino in its super pineapplely, I love that thing.

It's like pineapple tinling, amazing, amazing flavor, smells exactly like a pineapple.

Speaker 3

But mostly ninety nine is like great fruity, a few meat.

I don't know, but there is good in it.

Speaker 6

They're they're referring to I guess, uh Modern Brothers Graham not not the old Company.

Speaker 3

I guess I'll be yeah for the grim Modern.

I don't want to be too.

Speaker 5

Mean, but guy, okay, okay, okay, there you go.

Speaker 3

I'll leave with that.

Speaker 5

I almost made it through a whole episode without an that guy.

Speaker 3

Yea almost.

Speaker 2

Well, whatever, fuck it, that's some interesting pictures out there.

Uh anyway, Rocking so.

Speaker 5

Robots made his head look like me.

Uh shout out Rocky Rocky on the blows.

So we have our discord where we hang out.

I've got to put up a poll this tonight for out of our list of movies to watch Sunday, I'm gonna watch another movie.

Speaker 3

Last week, what was what would we choose?

Lost Boys?

Speaker 6

Lost Boys?

Speaker 5

This week, we'll see where we go.

We'll see where we go with this.

We're traveling through the old ones for the young generation to see the good ship.

Maybe blazing saddles.

I don't know, maybe that's maybe that's not kosher anymore.

Speaker 2

It's funny we should have like all the old platoons and full metal jacket, like a whole night and just those options that we could choose from.

Now.

I love the smell of napalm in the morning.

Speaker 3

I think I like still middle or full metal jacket, pethers in populyps now, but a populos now is pretty.

Speaker 2

I love the cinematography and uh Apocalypse Now, the way they shoot it, the helicopters coming in and just uh it's yeah, not to glorify that stuff, but those movies that grew up watching with my pops.

So yeah, I don't know, I love it.

I love that ship.

Speaker 3

Yeah.

Speaker 5

I'm gonna try to also figure out how to broadcast playing video games again.

Speaker 3

I'm gonna try.

Yeah, video game Kick.

Speaker 5

I got Gidiana Jones loaded.

I haven't I want to try it.

It looks like far cry fuck it.

Speaker 2

Yeah, Man, people tune into you because they like you.

You know, if people you always put it on an off day that people can tune in to watch.

Man.

Speaker 3

I have a really bad mouth when I play video games, though, I don't know if it would be arible.

Speaker 2

You let me on the show.

Dirty dirty little redneck.

That's all you are, a dirty little red probably Matto.

Speaker 5

Yeah, so yeah, we got the discord coming out.

Speaker 3

We might do some waffles this weekend.

I don't remember if fights this weekend, there might be.

I need to look.

Speaker 5

I know Cat's uh TETs are retires is going to be fighting sometime this month.

One of my favorite fighters that most people don't know about, that little Japanese man is amazing.

Speaker 3

So we're gonna be airing his fight for sure.

Speaker 5

We got, like I said, payment options up, payment options up, and we got our merch site.

Speaker 3

Cinek gear dot com.

Speaker 5

If you can't get to it that way, uh, there's a site called fourth Wall f O U R T h W A l L and then site that and type of breeders.

Speaker 3

Syndicate in Google and you will end up there.

Speaker 5

Lots of merch available, all kinds of goodies and uh, this is there.

Speaker 2

I forgot something brick Flair Drew.

Speaker 3

I think that's it all right, fellas.

I'll check you guys later as.

Speaker 2

Yeah, I'm an auto flower Kim dogg growing cannon, calcium cannon, drinking satavag.

Speaker 3

There we go video game Mafia Mafia.

Speaker 2

Well, yeah, if people want to tune into my little video game podcast a Noboddy, he's been on vacation, so we should have an episode up.

And there are two memory card mafia's on YouTube.

Speaker 3

I'm never gonna get that right.

Memory card Mafia memory power I had to do video games.

Speaker 2

Well, it's a memory card like a PlayStation, two memory cards, you know, and then it's about memories that me and my buddy have from that time.

So it's a nostalgic pack nineteen nineties to early two thousands podcasts.

We're talking about kind of shit fan not really WED related, but yeah, that's it.

Thanks for so good, Thank you.

We're trying, we're learning, we're not I'm not a podcast master and I suck at technology, so we're just learning and work out the kink.

So maybe tune in later on when I got it more worked out.

That might be Betters.

Speaker 5

Better watch out because Screw is going into different chat rooms.

He's finding y'all posers and he's pulling y'all bitch cards.

Speaker 2

So that's funny.

Speaker 3

No, never he is.

Speaker 2

Is that what the can illuminati we are watching means we got a infiltrator.

Uh you know, dab holed spies everywhere.

Careful, careful where condoms.

You don't know who you are sleeping with, you might make a baby.

And thirty five years later he reaches out to you and says, daddy, where you been, and he looks like you Hey, yeah, So there's a glorious day, Matt.

Speaker 3

Glorious day.

All right, All right, that's a wrap.

Speaker 2

Thanks guys.

Speaker 1

Gals want to sit at the table with the syndicate.

Speaker 3

Check out our Patreon and our link tree or description below.

Our merch right is officially live.

Speaker 1

We have all sorts of shirts, hoodies and goodies to sort you out, and shipping is super fast and most importantly, the quality is top notch.

Speaker 3

I've been saving old designs.

Speaker 1

For years for this purpose, so please check it out syndicate here dot com.

Speaker 5

We also have an underground syndicate Discord where we get together and solve old strain history together daily.

It's an amazing community of learning away from IG and it's an amazing resource for old catalogs and knowledge.

Speaker 3

We hope you join our union of breeders and growers.

Come check it out.

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