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Hey, what's up everyone?

I'm Matthew here today with Screw.

Maybe maybe a late Chuckie presence he likes to pop up fashionably late.

Today.

We're going to be talking about a few things.

One of them like it is probably something we get asked about the most, and is the Kem Doug mind?

What's real, what's not?

Who has what, who doesn't?

All the ins and outs, what is actually related to?

What is a big one that people who are committed to trying to figure out the whole quest for that history would like to figure out.

Screw, when's the first time you got interested in the Kim quest?

Uh?

Well, so my first introduction to you know, quote unquote Kim was like white label shit.

You know.

So I was like, ah, why is everyone fucking you know raving about this?

But the like first legitimate stuff, was I guess those ninety one s ones from Caleb?

Yeah, and then I started doing I've grown quite a few of his d hybrids.

I've grown your Chim siss one by Bonnet, and then a several other just kind of like follow on work, you know, like KIM hybrid hybrids, poly hybrids like us.

Yeah.

Yeah, I think Caleb's introduction of the KIM ninety one s ones it was a lot of people's first entry into KIM where they knew they were getting legitimate cam And can you be able to try it pure for the first time, even though it was an S one, try it without any in cross work, see it as pure as it were?

So yeah, yeah, well and I thought that you could, Sorry, no, go ahead.

Well, I was just gonna say, you can see how like homogeneous it is, like those s ones are are pretty damn like damn near identical.

Yeah.

Yeah, I'm actually excited to take a picture of a bunch of the well, a full tray of the blueberry in cross to show how ridiculously uniform those plants are.

And if you pop you know, one hundred inside of a ten x twenty tray, what you'll get there's very few that are bigger, smaller, different leafweight with any of it.

It's pretty cool to see and it's not something you commonly see in cannabis for sure.

Oh you're so you're gonna be doing I don't want to veer off from Kim's stuff.

Oh yeah, yeah, go ahead, Yeah, But what other one of some of the other good Kim questions if people have had, of course, like when iluns have made that Kim Uh Kim one on one thread over on Icy mag.

Which is still there, and you can go back and look at many many years ago, trying to figure out what was related to what, what came from, who, who popped what when, and a documentation of the images I believe.

I don't want to speak for him on any of that, but that's kind of what I saw from my end going on, and it seemed like his own public journal of what he was finding when it came to the Kim Duck story.

Now, the original story starts out with a dude named Joe Brand maybe rip hope not but maybe, and a guy named He But they were buddies, one was I think one was a golf caddy.

Maybe both were golf caddies working for someone's dad in a golf course place.

And they were also you know, into fish and grateful dead and stuff like that, and they'd go on tour with that.

We had the money to do so, and they pick up some pounds before they went out of town, head out of town and sell some of this way along the way just to pay for incidentals.

You know.

One of the people that they ran into was a guy named Kim Dog Greg.

As we've come to know him lovingly, loveling, lovingly.

I'll even say that lovingly know him.

He's still one of my favorite people, a part of the whole scenario.

And from there, Kim Dog Greg and his compatriots popped several seeds that came out of this bag.

As the story goes, the assumption would be that these were all sisters in the same bag, and then it was all very homogeneous.

All all of these would be you know, if you popped up Cam ninety one, you'd pop a Kim four, you'd pop a Kim one, you'd pop a Kim d.

They were all brothers, sisters, you know, or I'm sorry, all sisters, because there was once a male and then later that was replitted and from this, from this story to this current date, we've been trying to figure out, through breeding, through acquiring the actual cuts from the actual people, how these things turned out.

How did it pan out through breeding?

What kind of expressions did we see?

What kind of trades passed from parents reliably to other lines that we could apply to other lines, and see did this pass reliably?

And that's where we start sort of run to a dead end wall.

So I don't know what's the most interesting shit about kim Now.

I was gonna talk about it, and I'm like, what's so interesting about it anymore?

That's we're talking about that hasn't been said.

Do you think, Uh, well, I don't know about so are there are there different kim d's.

You know that.

That's one of those questions where I'm not sure.

It seems like kim d's very plain an expression in the first place.

So the same kim D cut could express several different ways.

Some have had some something called you can get my fingers in your tobacco mosaic virus kim that was just variegated, and that variegation would turn up or turn down based on plant health.

Some people attributed it to being two different cuts.

There are cuts that have been called kim D, like the Keemsis S one, where it was called kim D for years, but it was actually the Kimsis S one and that made it around for quite a while, especially in the Colorado scene, as kim D.

But it was always really obvious.

It was more like a raggedy, ugly hair just yeah, it was just an ugly, very very harm prone version of the Kim D.

And it wasn't quite as pretty.

The leaves were never quite as happy or pretty as as the actual kim D.

That that really surprised me after like runther than ninety one s ones looking at you know, a bunch of different kim ninety one, you know, different hybrids and stuff, and just seeing like, oh man, it's like it just turns everything into kim looking ship, which was not like pretty.

Seeing bitter post the D and like just how gorgeous it is.

It was very surprising to me considering how the ninety one is.

Yeah, I'm just kind of going through the comments and trying to find some I could be funny or nice about.

You know, I always say be very careful about who you get cuts from, because now I mean, maybe you get the real cuts, but you never know what kind of stufftronswer there.

Be very careful, and that's not insinuating that there's anything in this room right here.

Just be careful buying clungs online.

I can't say that enough.

And I can't tell you how many people have come back to me after me saying that and said, oh my god, you were so fucking right.

So please just keep that in mind.

Where did KIM one four and ninety one differ?

Ninety one seems to be the mother of the KIM one and the KEMP four, Kim one and Kim fours seemed to according to some CSI digging into stuff with Joe brand.

If I remember, the only other genetic contribute contributed would be the at all five pays there within ninety one, and it makes sense with the flowering time and everything else.

So yeah, so you're just getting the ninety one and hybrid polyivert to kind of type things.

Is Ken D ninety one aka Big Bad Wolf better than each parent?

I mean that hard to say.

There's so much going on there.

I mean, what it depends on what you consider better.

You know, will one yield bigger than the other, Sure, will you consider that better?

Maybe?

Will one be more chirpy?

Allowed, will one be more potent?

At that point, which one do you consider to be more dank or better than each parent?

There's a lot of very very interesting stuff when you pross perential stuff like that back, especially in feminization.

H M, all right, what else we got you?

Do you guys see anything I need to answer or help help me find it.

Let's see Gabby on a video the other day.

He doesn't have a flower room and hasn't flowered out any of those clowns.

Yeah.

Yeah, it's gonna be a thing.

Yeah, I mean, dude, and you can find really good hybrids of it, or I mean even like s ones.

Those those ones are pretty good and it seems to kind of bully.

Bully the progeny in crosses.

Yeah, does anyone beside CSI have a good version of which M ninety one.

I mean, there's been many people who made keem ninety one s ones, but I would put us at the top just because they're available good price.

Do you know what you're getting?

There's not going to be a bunch of cross contamination, which is the worst problem out of all of it that I've ever seen.

Yeah.

Yeah, and keep in mind that if you get what's it called the d S ones, they're going to have a wider range, yeah, than the.

Ninety one S ones.

I don't know who said that, But.

Do we have like an actual troll in here?

I don't think so.

Mmmm, I don't know.

Let's see, I'm growing kim one and four.

Is there any are you growing the clones?

Are you growing the seeds of them?

Because that's got to be real.

Specific when you say stuff like that, Let's see anything I should look out for, be aware that may cause any problems in the end game.

I mean it's in all five days like super spelled.

No, I mean descrow it, beat it right.

It'll do well, It'll do well even in this climate.

Kim D regular seeds, there's no such thing as like a kim D regular pack except for kim dbx one.

You can find those from higher lonesome seeds as far as kim DE pure ever out us that that would exists.

I'll take the love.

I'll take the love.

He got them from skunk Pa before they split.

That's what I remember that the story a.

Little differently, That's not what he said on air he was waiting on that park bench.

How good is the cherryberry?

I like it quite a bit.

Dumps a ton of resin.

You get something like the the black cherry Looten's cough drop with some very little bit of your penline.

It's not the most potent, but it will yield really well.

And yeah, that's what my face, that's what I need to be making more of.

It's kind of like the the bubbleberry for me.

It's just one of those two that settled in really well when I made the crosses.

How close is Kim siss Kim sis s one not?

Have you flowered the Gintles pineapple lights from the collab?

You didn't see, Si, No, I haven't.

I haven't flowered any of the Hawaiian lights stuff from that that whole skid daddle.

I've been focused on all blueberry stuff constantly.

Every time I'm growing.

It's all blueberry stuff at the moment.

Once I'm done there, then I will go back and focus on a lot of the other stuff in the meantime.

But I'm pretty angle about that.

I have a contract with bad As anyway.

Is Kim more dominant than deep chunk depends on which Kim you're talking about, because remember we're talking about a bunch of different clones that are all hybrids of each other.

Is Kim ninety one more dominant than Deep Chunk?

I'd say no, traditionally speaking, but it just depends on what you're crossing.

Two.

That'll probably be the best answer on that.

Okay, So, did I have some other ideas screw other than just Kim fucking Dog and I forget already?

Uh?

Well we can, uh, I mean, we could do that announcement about the waffle if.

You're oh, yeah, yeah, that's right, so he'll yeah, So I don't forget.

Right now, over at the Discord, we are having a waffle, and only if you remember you have to buy me a buy me a coffee dot com Ford slash Matthew Wright to get there.

I think that's right, Am I right?

Yes, I'm right, Yes.

This waffle contains some stuff from twenty seventeen from Platinum what they called Platinum Seeds.

I want to say they were the breakoff Tony Mendo and uh whoever else When they broke off of Dying Breed.

They did their own skittle stuff.

One was a Z three, which was a Zeq done with Hindu Kushi's the Outcross, a little different from Ezeq.

These are all full and they are all labeled twenty seventeen Emerald Cups Special Edition, and there's one called steal Yo Face.

I have no clue what that even means.

Probably some deadhead reference.

I'm probably dead on about that.

Actually, I have some dead ringer cross to blue Bonnet, which is what we called the the Bundy CSS one just because it sounded cool and it was pretty close for a kim d if you didn't look at it too close.

Some blue resin cush seeds.

I think there might be a few packs of one of those in there, Blova Cush.

That's the pre ninety eight Bubba blue Bonnet.

I think I think we had Me and Body's Hippie Slayer thirty three cross to blue Bonnet.

I believe, yeah, that's one of them.

And there's gonna be a fat pack a Cherryberry in there, which was the Cherry Ak Blubonnet that I kind of pulled him down a while ago because I thought I was getting too low.

But there's enough there to do something cool with and someone else to do something cool with that they really want to because it is a special line some cookie berry crunch before which was the O GKB line.

And let me tell you that thing is true.

Brain Oh core, it's really good.

Yeah it is.

I like that one.

What is this one?

I don't know.

And then there's something called Watermelon short cook full pack from Dying Grade two thousand and sixteen E World Cup as long the place you can get this.

Most of those were five hundred to seven hundred and fifty bucks apiece when you got them, so it's a really good opportunity to get them cheap over in our discord.

Yeah, you know where to find us by macoffee dot com or slash Matthew.

Right, you can get in there and participates in the you haven't yet done any Oh, go ahead?

And and and if I win, which I bought ten slots.

If I win, I only want two of those packs now.

The rest will go to whoever buys the most slots.

O generous, too generous, in my opinion, too generous.

Let's see, I have to choose between these three cuts, tangy Land, Mass super Skunk or black Maple.

You're not getting Mass super Stunk, so you might as well choose one or the other two.

That's right, you might best advice.

In my nicest way, I could put it the Golden State Fielder.

I forgot.

That's what it has my name.

Yeah, so we have all that going on right now in the discord.

I'm not sure what's going on for tomorrow, if there's any fights or anything like that.

But Sunday we're gonna have another movie.

This last time we had a co banger.

Oh was it?

It was okay, I can't even remember, but it ended up being But the Urbs was the one that ended up winning, and something else got them on first.

So we went to the bat before the Verbs because the Urbs does rock, and we went for a two for goddamn it, and some guys, you, some of you guys and ladies at the balls, just to stay up and watch.

Yeah, it's flowering times.

The only reason plants aren't growing more often.

I wouldn't say it's the only reason.

I wouldn't think it's the only reason.

Some people you know will have a plant that's kind of squat, even though it flowers at the same time, a little more squat, and they think it doesn't kield as much, so they toss it and it could be one of the best smelling, highest potency plants that they have, and that happens a lot.

Oh, this is a great story.

Have you seen this one?

Screw yeah?

Oh my god.

Rampage Jackson's son Rajah blew up.

I got to watch the whole thing from beginning to end of the The wrestler in the back didn't know he was a wrestler, so he grabbed an empty can of beer slammed it on his head, which doesn't hurt, not bad, right, You're not cutting anything if you're doing it right.

You're just slamming it into his head and it makes an impact.

And the kid like to him like, I'm well, f you up?

And he's like, what, Oh, you're gonna sell this or not?

Meaning like, hey, are we going to go with this?

Are we going to sell this for our match tonight or what's going on?

And then he fand of the guy there was was not in fact a worker.

He was a w UFC star's son training in MMA.

To add to that, he had been This kid had been rocked pretty good two days ago with a head kick, and his father was filming it and proceeded the rest of the day to make fun of him on social media for almost getting knocked out, and you could tell the kid was not taking it well.

His ego was not taking it well.

So he goes into this thing as wrestling gimmick show behind the scenes that he was just there to watch, and this happens, and he decides, Okay, I'm gonna get mine back, and then one of the wrestlers that was like, I'm not a very well liked wrestler at that place told him, oh, yeah, yeah, you just run in there and you get your licks back broke.

That's how it works, given receipts.

And when that time came, he picked the wrestler up and slammed him at an angle to knock him out, which I think a lot of people missed.

Wasn't at a working angle of slamming someone down with your hands behind them protecting them.

It was at an angle to where the side of his neck hit the mat first, and then it was just NonStop thirty strikes unanswered on the dude's head.

And yeah, I don't know if he's gonna get charged with who knows.

I mean, he's a rich guys kid, right.

That was brutal.

Yeah, I did.

I don't know if you've said, but his dad's a fucking menace.

I've been Yes, I've been watching him like fucking raw that dude up for months now on social media.

Yes, And you know, I think it was an outpouring of that, you know, from that place, which I also understand.

You know what I'm saying, He's a young dude who fucking is going to have a hot head, and especially in a place where you are fucking physically violent every day with people, you know, Yeah, there's an unfortunate ship to have.

And I mean the fact that he was filming it and having his friends filming it online though, is it just a lessons you all out there do not do things that are going to come back to haunt you and have your friends filming it and you responding to it about all the acts.

You have done.

Common sense says, don't do that.

That's you know.

I mean, I'm not, that's neither here nor there on who's the good guy bad guy?

But the self snitch is not a good look.

Not a good look.

Oh oh am I missing a screw?

What?

Oh there you are?

Yeah, I've been here.

Sorry, I was written, I was written the comments.

Dan had a good.

Question what we got, Well we got Do you have a theory on any of the potential parents of the D one or four?

Yes, but they're not just my theories.

There are other people's theories, and I don't want to name those other people if they don't want these theories out yet.

So just know, h.

Do you probably nineteen ninety one dog, you know, the Kim Dog the dog cross to a hermed mass super skunk, which was a selection of sensey seeds super skunk done by Greg and his friends at some point.

Kim number one through Kim number four most likely are KIM ninety one cross to NL five Hays.

And that's from someone else's work, But this person is probably one of the best sources on this kind of stuff for me to be able to answer that.

Okay, here's another good one at DK Hobbyworks.

Matt, what's the diesel story?

Where was that plant from.

Jesus was supposed to be from?

Originally Kim Dog?

Greg said it was a mass super skunk hermed on by Kim d And for many years I just kind of went with that that, like, Okay, yeah, that's where it came from.

Body had passed me the cut, but he had gotten it very early on, but he wasn't.

He did one cross with they call wolf pack at the time, and I liked that, so I asked for the cut ran it.

Loved it.

But very quickly I realized there's no Kim dog D in this plant, like even in I made up a bunch of process with it at that point to known pollen receivers and saw no Kim dog D.

So then I reverse it and again and I see no Kim dog D.

And then I go back to the old story that it's pretty pretty well documented that Kim dog D doesn't kicked viable pollen, just doesn't.

It's it's not a viable pollen kicker.

So the fact that that would kick paullen onto a very viable pollen kicker seemed to make less sense than it just turned on itself, especially with how it buris, how different it is from other Kim types, et cetera.

Yeah, that's kind of where it came from.

What I think it might be Kim or super skunk S one S one S one S one who knows something like that?

Right, people are asking how the Kim's do outdoors?

It just depends.

I mean, it depends on how well dense buds do for you outdoor.

Kim Dee's much more dense than say, Kim for Kim four usually does pretty well for people outdoors.

Diesel does well for people outdoors.

Kim one would do better are outdoors it's more sparse, but yeah, Kim ninety one is a little more dense.

Maybe do okay someplaces, but can be I don't recommend outside of California.

Only one from ten bloopers come pop.

We just did a you know, forty plant pop of those seats for this season and got one hundred and I think it is one hundred and one percent, I want to say, just because one had two seeds in it, so they're doing pretty well over here.

I hope you do get a female from it, because you'll love it.

Joy black seat.

There was a Vietnamese strains type though, when it comes to if you're referring to refer man, you just have taken it face value, very much, a face value.

That guy said anything.

Fortunately, but why aren't these Are there more good back crosses or in crosses that preserve the core scent?

Just in general, I don't know.

It would take people doing work over years to do that.

That would be my answer to why in general you don't see it?

Yeah that I mean also I would.

I would think it has a good amount to do with you know, what you actually cross it to, how they jive, you know, since.

If your goal is to maintain, you know, a certain profile.

Yeah, do I believe GMO has real camdig in it or something else.

I believe that it has the same.

I believe that I met my friend Mannick says that he ship over there and that it made it, so I tend to believe that.

But even if it didn't, if it had something like the chemistys S one like you can find km D S one's, you can find kim B hybrids that all smell like kim D, that will get you to this same point of crossing it to cookies and doing that.

So regardless, it's a great plant, why doesn't Screw show that handsome face on Live Tody wants to.

Know because I'm an.

Yeah, I'm an out long anyway, we made it half an hour and no one's exploded or done anything crazy.

I don't know what else do we have to say?

We have thea that we have our thing going tonight, the Waffle.

It's a big one and it's a lot of all rare year that you cannot get, all its original packs that you cannot get like these were from unless you wrote the twenty sixteen, seventeen and world up, you're not going to get it.

So going to participate, you can get it really cheap.

There's only a certain amount of spots available.

I'd love to see you guys there, and you'll also get to hang out if I get to see what all the what all the fuss is about all the dig tok you know that kind of stuff.

Anyway, Yeah, what else do I have.

To get in?

I I have a couple of questions from the discord.

Yeah, let's do it from rooster this so it's actually uh asked often if you reverse an S one onto another S one, what is it called.

M?

I mean that's kind of what Bidder did with the T ninety one, and we went with F one R F one reversal.

But it's still I don't know, it's not quite as much of a polyotter because you already bread in one direction.

So F one R.

All right for a silver pilot growing out little finger?

What what can you tell me about it?

Okay, So the AJ Soer cut was a little bit more broadly, but for all intents and purposes, it looked, smelled, tasted smoked like sour, finished a little bit earlier, and had broader leaves, and that was it.

And that was an early version of the AJ sour So it was it was pretty early on.

It would have been pretty was passing as his cut very early on.

What you got from him depended on what year, what time of that year.

All right, this is a really good one from Appy.

What grow or cross surprised you the most over the years.

Mm hmm.

I'll still say the banana punch Bonnet because I didn't think it was going to be nearly as good as it was because I had totally put down any interest in purple punch.

It was just like, okay, frosty, crapey ship whatever, that's nothing new, you know.

But yeah, that one ended up being a fire like super fire that specific U and went on to make the Punchy Bluster, which, yeah, that was a big oversight gorilla glue flour, big oversight part had no interest in it ended up being fucking amazing.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Rotalization what you're talking about here.

It was the term Soema came up with for fucking torturing your plants till they heard and that was what he called it.

Brutalization.

Oh, him and him and the other d J are going or going back and forth.

I see that.

Yeah, well with that.

Do we have anymore?

Is that it?

Do we have an early Friday night?

I'm sorry, I've been super busy.

Yeah, I know you've been busy as fuck, so it don't give me time to run the waffle.

So everybody come check out the waffle.

Go to our discord.

That's where it's all going down this weekend.

And uh yeah, that's at our Buy me a coffee dot com for slash Matthew, right.

Of course.

You can go get some other merch overwrite seats dot com.

You can go get other merch at syndicate gear dot com.

Uh, break shirts merchandise.

We're gonna have some soon to show up.

And hopefully today, even though it was very brief, had some sort of help in it.

I don't know.

I thought it would be fun to go over the chemis stuff.

What is isn't there?

And every time I do it, it seems to get a ton of hits because all the Kim guys come and go.

I didn't approve that, so should be good, should have a good ending.

Go, leave your own comments, tell me, tell me I'm wrong, tell me why I'm wrong, and I look forward to interacting with all of you, and with that, screw anything else.

Uh No, there's this.

Of all the Kims, which would you consider the best?

I'd always go for Diesel and say it's not a Kim but still Diesel.

Then for you like the four, I like the four more than the d oh yeah, way more.

What I'm not a fan of the d you'd think I would be.

Sometimes That's how it goes.

When you get so much d you get sick of these sometimes.

All right, dude, Well, thank you for helping me tonight.

Thanks to everyone who showed up.

But easy show give back to your peoples.

We'll talk to you soon and peace.

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