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Speaker 1

That black love different.

Speaker 2

That's not what she was saying the other day.

Speaker 1

You was.

Speaker 2

You don't say that at all.

Speaker 3

I'm just saying I'm looking at the difference that black love is different.

Speaker 4

Mama's wasn't bad bitches, And that's what men are marrying.

Ruby Rose your boo that you was shooting your shot, You wash your shot.

Speaker 3

I think the ones that I loved, I loved them.

I thought they both was the love of my life.

Have a man ever broke up with you?

No, a man has never broke up with you.

Speaker 2

Men don't break up women for real.

Speaker 1

I ain't gonna lie.

I cried over a girl.

Speaker 2

That's good.

You should be vulnerable, like dall.

Speaker 1

I can't even leave this like them.

Oh no, through it.

Speaker 4

They say broke men have great sex, way better sex than anyone.

And you know they might not be lying on that one.

Speaker 1

This is the taking over the game, all right?

Speaker 3

Everybody, Welcome to Truth after Dark.

Speaker 4

Do you think that men or women are more toxic?

Hello, beautiful people, welcome to another episode of the Truth after Dark.

Speaker 2

I'm your host, Azar Faraday.

Speaker 1

Paul pierced the Truth in the building once again.

Speaker 2

Nice, how are you feel?

Speaker 3

I'm good man?

You know Halloween is coming up.

Yeah, holiday season my favorite part of the year, you know, Thanksgiving, Christmas, all that rounding out the end of the year, finishing off the birthday.

Mom feeling good right now?

Speaker 4

Okay, I love that.

I love that happy belated birthday.

So today we'll hop right in.

So Gilbert Arenas was on neon I guess some streamer named neon stream.

Speaker 1

Yeah yeah, what are you talking about?

Speaker 5

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, And he said that basically, you as a man, need a few little hoes to get run through to get your confidence back.

Speaker 4

And he basically referenced back page.

I don't know if you know what backpage is.

Speaker 2

Back Page was like, it's like.

Speaker 4

Hos and he was like telling him, like you know backpage and he was like huh because he's younger.

Speaker 2

And then he's like, you know Instagram, it's the same thing.

Speaker 4

And he's like, you get a few holes run through him and as a man, that's going to build your confidence up.

Speaker 2

Do you agree with that.

Speaker 1

I'm trying to figure out Bill Joe confidence.

Speaker 6

Like maybe an ego, I think I kind of, I don't know, get you something easy, so like now you're feeling good about yourself, maybe.

Speaker 4

Or yeah, I mean it gets you like a bad one that you run through.

Speaker 2

I guess so you can get your ego out.

Speaker 3

N I ain't going with that advice because then you're gonna go over there you talking about pay and then when you get into the real when you when you gotta really kind of mouthfee something up that ain't gonna work.

You gotta go through the fire.

You gotta get rejected one hundred times.

And listen, this is how you gotta figure it out.

You gotta swing for the fences.

Say you swing.

Say you go to a party and you talk to the thirty girls.

If five bite you good.

If you get five, If you get five to bite, you get the number.

At least that's get your confidence going that you work within that five.

Like that's all that, Like all that back page Nah, that ain't that ain't gearing you up for the real game.

Speaker 2

Do you think Instagram is the new back page?

Speaker 1

Yeah?

Probably so, right game?

Speaker 3

Yeah it is.

Girls is really selling they up on Instagram?

Yeah, yeah, for sure.

It is just the more enhanced herculean back page.

Like back page only only has so much, but.

Speaker 2

Now you can get all types of women.

Yeah, all around the way.

Speaker 1

Back page was local and it.

Speaker 2

Was like only it wasn't as bad.

Speaker 4

Like now you can get all type of women, like regular everyday women, this woman, that woman.

Speaker 2

It's a lot of options.

Speaker 1

Man.

Speaker 3

I had a homie that that that had a bad I've never done back page, by the way, but he was like kicking it in was kicking it.

One day he called up a back page right like yeah, because the back page, I'm not even sure you you know what they look like or is there photos on it or I forget the little highest setup.

Well, I know it's I don't know if it was the phone book or on the newspaper or what.

But I remember she pulled up on them when we was playing Domino's and I was like, he was like, yeah, that's the back page.

I was like, what, you could just call somebody over there and they just come over.

Yeah, yeah, you know, one hundred dollars or something.

Speaker 2

I could be scared, like you get set up about.

Speaker 3

One hundred dollars next to y'all, know you know they you know they doing they what too?

I was like, man, let me get on up out of here.

I was like, damn, that's crazy.

And now Instagram is the modern day prostitution.

Speaker 1

Yeah, I mean, in so.

Speaker 3

Many words, it's just how you look at it and how you go about it.

Because when you look at girls, just the way they promote theyselves and sell themselves.

Speaker 1

What are you saying?

Yeah, pretty much the same thing.

Speaker 3

But as far as like getting your confidence up, I'm not sure.

You got to get your confidence up by going through the rough and then be like, all right, I got over the hump, like all that.

Now getting out of a slump.

I get it, you get out of a slump.

But getting your confidence it's two different things.

Speaker 4

Do you think that men get with certain women just to boost their confidence and be like, Okay, I can get her to love me, like making someone feel like making someone.

Speaker 2

Fall in love with you.

Speaker 4

You like, is that an ego boost for men?

Because there's a lot of men that hold onto relationships that they don't really want.

Speaker 2

To be in.

Speaker 1

Is that an ego boost by getting certain type of women?

Speaker 4

Yeah, and you get them in a certain way too, like have them like love you or be on you or whatever the case is.

Speaker 3

Yeah, I mean men use it for ego boosts, But like, I don't know, that's a difficult question for me.

I'm telling you like I ain't never really had no confidence that you never really had no like get ego booster issues, Like from the first time I was started talking to girls and having girlfriends, like in my seventh eighth grade and you know, going to the dance with somebody.

I never really like was like afraid to approach your women or needed my ego to be stroked from a woman.

So it's hard for me to like really get into that.

Like, but you see certain men and you see them with certain women who are out of their league, I can tell.

But then then as a man, you look at them like, damn, you know, he probably breaking her off.

Speaker 1

Some bread or yeah.

Speaker 3

People lifestyle people are gonna assume that, you know so, but you have to wonder sometime, like you're looking like that with him.

Okay, okay, you're doing your thing.

I ain't no hate.

It's just like now I know he's doing too much.

Speaker 1

Though.

Speaker 4

Well, a lot of women are just with men for superficial reason.

Speaker 3

Yeah for sure, that same with me, and men are with these women for super you know what.

I just want to, you know, get with her for this, you know, just for the sexual pleasure.

Speaker 1

And that's it.

Speaker 3

I really, you know, and then it just leads to like, y'all don't really like each other.

Speaker 1

At the end of the day.

Speaker 2

Does a woman's love feel like fulfilling?

Speaker 4

Does a woman's because I feel like women are extremely emotional and like express it, you know, so like for a man, is that an overwhelming feeling or is it like, Wow, I feel fulfilled by this type of love.

Speaker 3

I ain't no greater love than the love you gonna get from.

Like, I feel like the people closest to you, and if that's your woman or if that's your brother, sister, mama or auntie, you know, because I feel like the best love I think comes from family because you can never break up, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1

Yeah, like relationships, you just break up.

Speaker 4

But I feel like this, this is what I feel.

People say that the love from your partner is stronger than your family because if you are in a relationship with someone, they're choosing to be with you.

Speaker 2

Your family is just your family.

Speaker 1

Yeah, I get it.

Speaker 3

It's stronger because it's gonna be somebody with every day, You're gonna go through more things with them as an adult that your family don't see.

You're more ready, you're more in tune with them, uh, mentally and spiritually because you laying with them every single night.

Uh, so the love can grow to be greater.

You know, you're not talking to your mama every day like that, or your brother or sister a being like you are.

Your partner.

Yeah, he was laying next to you, seeing your hearing your deeper secrets and knowing like everything about you.

Speaker 1

It is still like all right, I'm.

Speaker 4

You because no one knows you like your partner.

Your partner's going to know you more than anybody.

Speaker 1

And that's why it's more crushing when that break up.

Speaker 2

Yeah, for sure, just like.

Speaker 3

Damn the soul and gave her or gave him, you know, as a woman everything.

Yeah, you like damn, I just you just feel like it went down the dreams.

I gave him my deeper secrets.

And then with the society we live in today and the culture we live in today, it's even more heartbreaking because then women and men they go out there and spill your tea when if it don't.

Speaker 4

Yeah, and everything is incriminating now because if you're texting, people are screenshotting, people are sending people like you don't even want to be vulnerable on a text.

You don't want to be vulnerable, like because it's like, damn are you recording?

Speaker 2

It's dream shouting?

Are you doing anything?

Speaker 4

And it's like you would hope you would be with someone that wasn't that petty you know what I mean, But you never really know.

Speaker 2

But yeah, that's tough.

Now going into another topic.

Speaker 4

Gucci Mane and Keisha kior So they were on the Breakfast Club and they had an interview about his bipolar and schizophrenia.

So he's bipolar and he's schizophrenic, yes, Gucci.

Speaker 2

Man Yes, yes, yeah.

Speaker 4

They were on there talking about his episodes and she said that when he goes through an episode to they actually now she helps him, meaning she'll take Twitter off his phone, take all the social media apps off his phone, like change his password to lead everything because she doesn't want the public to see him having an episode.

Speaker 2

And then she'll tell him like you're sick.

Speaker 4

That's what she said, like you're sick right now, You're it, And he'll be like okay, and she said something and he mentioned how when he would have episodes, he would give away.

Speaker 2

Things because Kanye West.

Speaker 4

Kim recently on an interview said that Kanye West would give away Lamborghini's and all types of stuff when he had an episode, and Gucci said, he did the same thing, and he said, and it was really foul because his friends knew he was sick and they would take very expensive jewelry, million dollars worth of jewelry and everything.

And he said, as soon as I got better and out of jail, he said, I cut all of those people off because I'm like, you took advantage of me when I was sick.

And so his wife is a big part of what helps him not have future episodes and like got help for him and he's on meds, he said.

But the public in the audience is like kind of bashing Kim Kardashian now because Kim dealt with the same thing with Kanye, but she was handling it very differently.

She said it was just too much for like she can't deal with someone who's having these episodes.

Speaker 2

What do you feel about, Like, at what point.

Speaker 1

Is that schoo man's girl, right?

Speaker 2

His wife?

Speaker 1

Yeah?

Speaker 2

She is black, Yeah she's black.

Speaker 1

See that that black love different.

Speaker 4

That's not what she was saying the other day was you don't say that at all.

Speaker 3

I'm just saying I'm looking at the difference that black love is different, never not said, I have not said it, but it is different.

Speaker 1

You know.

Speaker 2

I think black women are loyal to their man.

Speaker 4

That's what it is a thing to black men specifically, Well, we gotta do the statistics.

Speaker 2

They said that it's a statistic that you know.

Speaker 1

I know that I don't know.

It's not in front of me.

Speaker 3

But like you know, I'm just saying black love is different because you know of the poverish communities we come from, and we've seen each other go through so much of a struggle mentally.

Uh, that is just like damn.

You know, you can be broken as a kid and as an adult with what the world puts you through, you know, and when you got the real strong Black ladies.

And the reason the criticism is out now because it ain't it's a different type of Black women now.

It's like old school black women are different.

We could just say that like are my mama and my mama's mamas and like the old ladies that was just like home, making sure they're men and and working two or three jobs and really putting.

Speaker 4

Your mama's wasn't bad bitches, And that's what men are marrying, like just keeping it real, Yo, Mama's wasn't that.

They was big arms cooking in the kitchen.

Get shit right, But men don't want to marry them.

They don't want to marry them type of women.

Men have conditioned women to believe they have to look like this, that, that, that, and then their minds are fucked up.

The more surgeries you get, the more things you got going, your mind goes crazy and then you you you change.

Speaker 1

Amas.

Speaker 3

Suggest this to men out there, like dog, if you a black dude and you got you a black woman who got you know them arms?

Speaker 1

You know them arms?

You know.

Speaker 3

That photover at the elbow and they flap at the bottom.

Get that one that we're gonna know how to get down in the kitchen.

She got that high booty, you know what I'm saying, and she gonna be wearing that that that bonnet in the kitchens, cooking, cooking up.

That's the ones you need to get with them.

Is the ones ain't going nowhere.

That's what I'm saying.

They're gonna get damn for you.

Speaker 4

But then men, men will get with that type of woman, and then those sheet with a woman they're sexually attracted to because you can't be with a woman that you're not sexually attracted to.

As a man, you're gonna because you're gonna have too much temptation to want what you want.

Like, there's no way you can't tell me men do that all the time.

Speaker 3

That's gonna fade.

Eventually, we talked about that.

The sexual attraction is gonna fade.

Speaker 2

Okay, let's move on the missile.

Speaker 3

The myth attraction is gonna be forever.

The mind is always gonna be powerful because when you look at her over there with them orangs like that and she and that, because you're looking like, damn, that's my baby right there.

You know what I'm saying, This is crazy looking at her.

Man, she's blood, sweat, tears right there.

And that's a more powerful type of love than like, man, I ain't really attracted when I do all that and all because when I see her doing all that and she's getting down, that's attractive.

Speaker 1

Let me go grab her up real quick.

Come here, girl, you know what I'm saying.

Come here.

Speaker 2

Yeah, but when she starts to undress.

Speaker 3

And what I'm looking through all of that, come here, girl, you so you crack it.

Give me here, get over here.

Speaker 1

Seeing a sandwich.

Speaker 2

Okay, so let's move on from that discussion.

Speaker 4

Okay, So Ruby Rose your boo that she was your shot, You was your shot publicly, yeah, Ruby Rose.

Speaker 2

Okay.

Ruby Rose says.

Speaker 4

She'd rather be alone and that women need to start rewarding ain't shit man with babies.

She got her own bread, She don't need you and words, and she's cool.

So I'm confused.

Do you feel like babies are reward to men?

Speaker 1

What you mean a baby is a reward to a man?

Speaker 2

Do you feel that way as a man?

I'm really asking.

I don't know.

Speaker 3

It's rewarding if it's a baby that's had through love.

You know, when you have a kid through love, it's rewarding.

But when a baby coming it ain't through love.

It's just like damn messed up right here, you know what I'm saying.

So all that like, that's not a game to play, you know what I'm saying.

You don't want to play no games like oh, rewarding these dudes with babies.

I mean, I understand that there's men out here that's trying to trap beautiful women, and there's women out here trying to trap men too.

Yeah, so it goes both ways.

Yeah, I don't look at it.

It's just a one sided deal because there's more women trying to trap than men trying to trap.

Speaker 4

Yeah, so women do be trying to trap.

But what I'm wondering is what are you trapping?

Because it's like you're gonna get a little bit of child support and then you're gonna be stressed out and then I would hate to have a baby with a man that I'm not with, and then I have to have his seat inside of me growing and I have to watch this man possibly be with another woman or create a family out of love and I'm over here with this baby, like I just can't.

Speaker 2

It will blow me.

Speaker 4

I would never be able to do that, and I wouldn't want to bring my child into the world already in a broken family.

Like I feel like there's a lot of women.

I get it if you're like against abortion or whatever, but I feel like there's a lot of women who aren't against it, but they just want to try to have a baby to hopefully get gained something from it.

Speaker 2

And I'm sorry to cut you off, no, go ahead.

Speaker 3

No, But like a lot of times and some or sometimes women be having be like you know, what, I'm gonna have a baby.

Speaker 1

To try to keep them in.

Speaker 2

That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1

I think I could keep them if I have it.

Speaker 2

I know where you.

Speaker 3

Know, like your relationship ain't really as close as you thought it was.

But if I had a baby, at least I'm gonna have and with men too.

Men don't have a kid with a lady thinking like, oh, I got that for life.

Speaker 1

You know I could get that.

Speaker 2

Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 4

But you know what I will say about this really quick, is the whole concept of keeping a man because you have a baby is so skewed because even in a healthy relationship, having a baby makes the relationship more difficult, even.

Speaker 2

If you guys love each other, even if you're healthy.

Speaker 4

So imagine having a baby with somebody you're already on the rocks with a baby is not gonna save your marriage.

A baby is not gonna save your relationship, but it actually adds dynamics that make it much harder to deal with.

So unless you're ready and prepared to have that baby, you guys are on the same page, and even then it's hard imagine what's gonna happen.

And if oh, I'm trying to keep this man, because we're in a bad place.

That's just gonna drive a bigger wedge in between y'all.

To be honest, I've never been supid enough to think that.

Speaker 3

Yeah, I said that a lot that, Like, man, a lot of times a kid be just it can go one or two ways.

It could grow you apart, or it can glow closer.

Yeah, you know what I'm saying.

It's just the times that we live in because you got to make the adjustment.

Like when the kid comes, there's an adjustment like all right, we ain't about to just lay here and let's get up and go to Vegas or let's get up and go on a vacation.

Speaker 1

Now we got some other, some other a child to care for.

Speaker 3

Yeah, you know, and it's like you gotta really plan, yeah for sure now, and that can get frustrated.

Speaker 1

For the man and the woman.

Speaker 3

Yeah for sure, plan sex, you gotta plan dates, you gotta plan like just a lot of stuff.

Speaker 1

Man.

Speaker 2

Okay, So.

Speaker 4

There is So this is something that a lot of men have said on podcasts or like, this is a something I've heard so many times in my lifetime.

They say that men only have like one true love and it's usually the one who got away, Like maybe they hurt a woman, a woman, and like they messed up.

She got away, and the rest of the people that they're with they're just trying to recreate that experience, but they don't truly love them, and they're always thinking about that other woman that got away.

Maybe they were young, they lost her or whatever the case is.

Speaker 2

How do you feel like.

Speaker 3

Oh, that's a good one, that one true love?

Which man, don't I don't know.

It's tough to really like really like put a finger on that one, because I'm like, when I look at the loves of my life, is there one?

Or is there two?

Is there just the one that I say got away?

I think the ones that I loved, I loved them.

I thought they both was the love of my life, like especially because I was with them so long.

You know, so I don't really agree, but like, there's only one true love of your life.

I don't know how she felt.

I know how I felt because I always think like this is it?

Speaker 1

Yeah?

You know so I'm just like damn.

Speaker 3

And I never really look back and say, damn, I was supposed to be you know what?

You never know, you know what, It's probably one girl off.

I actually felt like I probably should have been with but didn't end up with and ended up with a different girl.

Like this was like this was like in college too.

This was like a real pivotal moment for me.

Like I was kind of like dating both of them and I had to make a decision, but I let them make the decision, and I was thinking like, damn, maybe I should have ended up with the other one, but the one made the decision, and you know I couldn't.

I couldn't fight it, and we wind up being together for like, you know, six or seven years.

Yeah, but uh, nothing I really regret.

Speaker 1

You know.

I think things happen.

Speaker 3

And the crazy thing is, you know, even though I ended I didn't end up being with either one of them, you know, marriage, our kids or nothing with them.

But I remember thinking.

Speaker 2

That, Yeah, I feel like for women.

Speaker 1

They said one that you think like you look back and say I let him get away.

Speaker 4

No, everyone, I would never look at a man and say he got away?

Speaker 2

Are you kind of crazy?

Speaker 1

Let me ask you, have you have you?

Have you?

Speaker 3

Have you ever have a man ever broke up with you?

No, a man has never broke up with you.

Speaker 4

Men don't break up women, for real, I broke up with somebody before.

You said, you say this all the time.

Speaker 1

That men don't, I know, I say, normally men don't.

Speaker 4

Yeah, girl, no, My relationships have always been the man is doing foul ship.

Speaker 2

I'm trying to make it work, make it work, give give, give love, love love.

Speaker 4

I'm exhausted at that point.

Now I'm like, I don't even want to be with you anymore.

And I still try, and then therapy and then finally I'm like, I'm.

Speaker 3

Cool, Like, so you never nobody was like I'm good.

Speaker 2

Oh no, no, no, yeahn for real, no, not no.

Men don't do that.

Speaker 1

You know, when you was eighty, he wasn't like I'm good.

Speaker 4

No, but I think that he did a lot of fucked up ship to basically say you're good, but you didn't say that.

I mean, I feel like men break up without work, Like they do stuff to make you break up with them, and I feel like that's definitely happened to me.

Speaker 2

Yeah for sure, then.

Speaker 4

Yeah yeah, but when they do it, then they're begging to still be with you.

Speaker 3

Like when a man like openly just disrespects you, yeah, like he's like, I'm just like I don't care.

Speaker 4

I'm opens the thing about what man, they like to do that and then they're crying at your door, Like what is it like?

Speaker 2

Because you you you wanted to do this, Now you're crying.

Speaker 4

You can't because all of my exes and I can stand all that hit me up for years.

Speaker 1

You've seen a man cry?

Yeah, your boyfriend?

Speaker 4

Yeah, I seen a man cry and broke my heart.

It was the worst experience.

I'll never forget it.

I remember the exact moment, and it wasn't It was some bullshit because it's like I'm breaking I'm trying to leave you, and now.

Speaker 2

You're crying and you're the one that's foul.

But it made me stay with him because it fucked me up.

I was like, this is.

Speaker 1

The I ain't gonna lie.

I cried over girl.

Speaker 2

That's good.

You should be vulnerable.

Speaker 1

Man.

Speaker 3

I remember when we was breaking up.

Man, it was like this was like early two thousands.

I was just like I was playing that.

I was playing all the Usher and Mariah Carey breakup songs, and I was like I was almost going through it.

I was in the house like damn, I can't an leave this, Like damn, oh no, going through it.

Speaker 1

I was like, damn, I was.

I was going through.

Speaker 4

It, like you know what, I feel like I technically have been broken up with then yeah, but I feel like every person that I've all my exes, they've always doubled back and like tried to get back with me, like seriously, like one of my exes that I had to get a restraining order like for ten years, and then another ex like well, like I have my exes.

Most of my exes are blocked because they will hit me WhatsApp, email me, love you please, like like seriously, I'm not lying because I feel like they realize after the fact, like damn, and by then I'm gone because I put years of work.

Speaker 2

All my relationships are years long.

They're not short, They're years.

Speaker 3

You have you ever bumped into one of your ex within the last couple of years?

Speaker 2

Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

I bumped into my ex.

Speaker 4

One time where I was on a date.

Oh yeah, yeah, I was on So this is the craziest story.

I was on a date with someone that I had just like started talking to and we went to a ball are and mind you, there was a girl at the front of the bar checking this list of people.

But when she saw me, she was like hey, and she just let us in.

So I'm like, I didn't think it was a private event.

The bar we went to ended up being a private event for his and his whole entire family was there and him and everything, and we walk in.

It was his cousin's event.

We walk in, it's his cousin's birthday.

I look and I'm like, I'm starting to trip out because I'm like, is this a dream?

Speaker 2

All of his family people, I'm a new day.

Speaker 4

We've been broken up for like a few years at this point, and so we're so I walk in and he's like, oh no, no, no, He's been blowing me up always, and I like, have him blocked.

Speaker 2

He's texting, hitting what'sapp.

Speaker 4

Email, what'sapp, blocked numbers, text me numbers, emails, calling people like seriously for years.

So then I see and he had just recently started it back, like literally a few week he started going hard again.

Speaker 2

So I'm like, cause you have piped down for a minute.

So I'm in there.

This man comes up his first His family's like, azar, we wanted you guys back together so bad.

Oh my god, he showed up.

Speaker 4

They think I'm there because it's a private event.

They think I'm there.

The girl happened to recognize me.

And then I'm at the bar with my little boo that I'm with and he comes behind me to grab me like this, and he's like, this is god.

This can't be a coincidence.

I've been hitting you every day.

I've been on your line every day.

I know this is fate.

I know we're supposed to be together.

Speaker 3

It was okay, so hold on, he come up.

Yeah, what old boy doing the new day?

Speaker 4

Nothing because it was too so no, no, no no.

Speaker 3

He was.

Speaker 2

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, that wasn't it.

That was that though.

It was like no, it was.

Speaker 4

Like I'm good, I'm I'm leaving type shit, like I'm I'm like, come on, let's go.

Speaker 2

And I was like all right.

Speaker 4

But then I kind of fucked up because I was like I don't want to feel like this person is controlling by like vibe to where I'm like walking and running away from it.

Speaker 2

So I was like, let me finish my drink, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4

But it just it wasn't a good situation.

And it's it's then they thought it was a setup.

Speaker 1

I feel like that's disrespectful.

Speaker 4

And I wasn't trying to because I didn't know this was going to happen.

But I'm like, at least us finished the drink, Like, don't let these motherfuckers run us up out of here like they anybody like.

Speaker 1

Yo, listen, this is this is the thing.

If you out on the date.

Speaker 3

I don't care if this is the first day and you just met dude yesterday and your old flame come and just grab you from behind, it's got to be like something.

Speaker 2

No, for sure, was that you think I'm just sitting there.

I was like move.

I was like, uh uh, this is crazy.

Speaker 1

Be like let's go, let's leave.

Speaker 2

Yeah, you're right, and it was.

Speaker 4

But I think that where I messed up was like I was super anxietal and this wasn't my relationship yet the person that I'm with.

But you're right, and so I think then the situation I just got weird and I was like this is crazy because it's like all the family everyone is staring me down.

I'm like, this is this is this is crazy.

And the cousin is like a famous rapper, so like they're in the music business.

Speaker 2

Everyone's there.

It's like photographs it's just a lot going on.

Speaker 3

I probably would have just played to the side, just kind of see how you're gonna react.

Yeah, I would have just kind of just see how yo, I.

Speaker 2

Think that's what it was going on.

Speaker 3

Then I would have just been I would have just kept it playing like that's what I'm.

Speaker 1

Saying, See what's going on over here?

Speaker 4

Then?

But no, it wasn't given like I'm over here, what's up.

Speaker 1

No, I'm just out here chilling.

Speaker 2

It wasn't given.

It was over here, like hey, what's up?

Speaker 1

What's up?

Is that your friend over there?

Hey?

You?

I would have doubled back to you like.

Speaker 2

No.

Speaker 4

But I wasn't disrespectful.

I just was like, have an anxiety about it.

I can get overwhelmed.

And I was like this is crazy, like back up, you know what I mean?

Like, and then we left, we left, we left, you know, okay, So moving on?

Do you There's everyone always says this, and there's a lot of men who say this.

Do men know very early on if they will marry a woman or.

Speaker 2

Be with her for a long time?

Speaker 4

Like a lot of men will say like I knew right away, or I'll know within a month, or I'll know within a few months that like, this is someone I'll be with or it's someone I won't be with.

Like we know very quickly.

And if a man is trying to act like he don't know, he lying.

And if he's like, oh, I don't want to be a relationship after like a certain amount of time, he's not really rocking with you.

Because a man knows and if he wants a woman, he's going to have her, and he's not going to have her like single.

Speaker 1

Don't they desperate?

Speaker 5

Men know right away why they got to be desperate because they're desperate.

Speaker 1

Oh yeah, you're gonna be my one first date.

Speaker 2

They're not saying first date.

They're saying like.

Speaker 3

If a man desperate, I knew it.

You ain't had a man tell you that off the rip?

Speaker 2

Yeah I have.

Speaker 4

And they were crazy ident message he was No, I could tell what a man different, but it's a difference between.

Speaker 2

So listen, listen to this scenario.

Listen to this scenario.

You're dating a man, not you know.

Speaker 4

I'm saying, like a woman is dating a man.

A woman is dating a man and they're getting to know each other and all of this it's been months.

Okay, So she comes to this man and she's like, hey, you know we've had we're having sex, I'm meeting family members, We're doing everything, We're intertwining, we're with each other every day.

She asked a man, hey, like what are we doing?

You know, like I want to be intentional about dating and I want to like if we're going to be spending and investing this much time with you, like I want us to be in a relationship, like what is this?

And he's like like, you know, I don't really like I don't like the relationship title thing, Like I don't want to really be in a relationship right now, you know, whatever the case is, do you feel like cause he's just not really rocking with her like that?

Speaker 2

Basically, because.

Speaker 4

This is the debate they're saying, like if a man is telling you like no, he don't want to be in a relationship, it's the with you is silent, he don't want to be with you.

Speaker 3

I can see I can see where you he coming from, because he could be his spirit could be broken to where he's thinking about it, Like seriously, you could be messing with a lady and it's kind of like you got one foot in, one foot out, and then you just be like when you try to put both feet in through the door, you hesitating, kind of scared of that because you didn't been through that before.

So you like and you're comfortable where it is right there right in that like that that middle ground, you know what I'm saying.

So it might take some guys, and it may take some girls a little longer to get over that hump of putting both feet in the door.

And so I can see, you know, because you've been traumatized when you when you overly committed, when you went all the way in.

Speaker 1

It's fun.

It's fun right now.

I like where we at.

Speaker 3

And then you know, I like this speed right now, I like the lane we in, but now you're trying to jump into the carpool and all that, like hold.

Speaker 1

On, hold on.

Speaker 4

But a lot of women claim that the and I've seen it firsthand that those type of relationships never end in a relationship, but always ends in them being disappointed or heartbroken.

Like they were investing all this time and then he never ended up wanting to make him the girlfriend, and like you know, she went.

Speaker 2

She waited and waited and waited.

Speaker 4

A year passed, two years past, and they're in this long term situationship and they just wasted two years of their life with someone who doesn't have a plan on really wanting to.

Speaker 2

Be with that.

Speaker 3

Well, you got to understand at some point you're just some work.

Speaker 2

Yeah, So how does a woman what I'm asking if.

Speaker 3

He ain't committed as not even know, we're not even talking about marriage committed, that what we're saying.

Speaker 2

So that's what I'm asking.

Speaker 4

I'm saying, Yeah, you just at what point though, should a woman know?

Speaker 2

Okay, I'm just some work?

Speaker 4

Like is it three months like where they're you're doing all of this and a man still just like, no, I don't want to be in a relationship.

Speaker 1

Y'all know where y'all work?

Speaker 2

Y'all know, I don't know.

That's what we're asking.

A lot of women were trying to get from a man.

Speaker 3

Y'all spend it, like you said, y'all spend it every day or every other day, every weekend together.

Speaker 1

How every much time y'all spending?

You know, you some work?

Speaker 3

If he ain't ain't this girl you know, I mean, I mean, I mean check this out after about like let's see, after about ten sexual encounters with the men, and it ain't no commitment.

Okay, you work maybe less than that.

It depends on how long you're saying.

A couple of years.

Damn No.

Speaker 4

People be doing that for situationships back and forth like ten if y'all ain't together, then you some work.

Speaker 2

That's okay, that's what the woman want to know.

Okay, thank you.

Speaker 3

Ten times of having sex with the same person.

If y'all ain't committed or or you don't see nothing else, you work.

Speaker 2

Period, period.

Speaker 4

And do you think that a woman has to ask a man like what are we?

Because there's also like, in my opinion, I think as soon as you have to ask a man that he not really you, not nothing, because if he wanted you to be like man are leaders and their hunters, and if they wanted you to be yours, they would say that you.

Speaker 3

Gotta be able to put a read on the guy, Like you gotta look at the places he's taking you to eat.

You gotta see if he's holding your hand in public or certain situations.

Yeah, you gotta see like when y'all out of the day, how he's sitting, how close he's sitting, or how far he's sitting, or if y'all in the cut.

If y'all always in the cut, you know what I'm saying, Like, Oh, we have this nice restaurant, but you in the back corner where nobody can see you all the time.

If you ain't getting me, if you ain't seeing all this, oh you know tonight this Friday night, Hey baby, let's go.

Let's go, you know, let's go to the game.

You know, but you in the cut at the game.

You ain't front row.

You ain't you know, if you let's go, you know you ain't.

You ain't being highlighted.

You know what I'm saying.

When he highlighting you, then it's something or he like, let's go to certain cities he's meeting you, like in Milwaukee or Utah or something.

Speaker 1

He ain't taking to New York or LA.

That you.

Speaker 2

I'm crying, that is crazy.

Speaker 1

Yes, And you ain't going to the big cities with him.

Speaker 3

You're going to all the little You go to like ten cities, but you're going to like Utah, Wyoming, You going to like Nebraska.

You gotta understand that you used to work there.

He take you everywhere Sacramento, he take you everywhere these places.

Speaker 1

Frunt Row at the Comedy Club in Charlotte.

Speaker 2

Okay, I'm done.

He's not Charlotte.

Okay.

So this is my last question.

Speaker 4

Who do you think is more valuable in a relationship, a man or a woman who gives more?

Speaker 3

Well, it's always gonna be the man, because the man gonna always genuinely, genuinely love the woman for who she is and what she gives to him physically, mentally, spiritually.

You know, I feel like most women give with men based on out of worldly things that he can do and give to the woman.

Speaker 1

So it has to be the man.

Speaker 3

I mean obviously, like when you look at the relationships and you like, damn, you know, the man is always taught to be the provider, the caretaker, all of these strong things, and you know women look for that.

And when a man ain't got that, you like, you know, he got a perty good personality, but he can't take care of me, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1

So like women are always looking for the prize.

Speaker 2

Not all women though, yeah, that's not all women.

I don't know a bunch of women who with men who don't be having nothing and they just love them the.

Speaker 3

Four fives and six, No, not the ones.

They more evenly, you'll.

Speaker 4

Be surprised, how many how many real bad bitches be with like a broke man who they be taking care of, who be driving their car.

No, I'm telling you, I personally know, Like you'll be surprised, like it's okay.

So they say broke men have great sex, way better sex than anyone, and you know they might not be lying on that one And a lot of women they get caught up, like I promise you, No, I don't know, but let me tell you this.

Though I wouldn't know, I have an exact example.

I know someone real bad, beautiful girl bomb.

She lives in a fly pent house, she's a boss, gets her own bread, real pretty, she's like up there, she is having a relationship with the maintenance man in the building, and she's falling in love because she's having sex and women release a hormone when they have sex.

And now she's starting to fall in love with the man and maybe he can move in with me.

And you don't how many bad bitches do that.

You will be so surprised.

They don't promote it, or they'll make him look a certain way and present him and give him the outfits and get him on.

Speaker 2

There's way more of that than you know.

Speaker 4

There might be more of that looks, but they fall in love with him.

They started as a sex relationship and they fall in love with them.

You think that the person who came on at it don't even matter.

Speaker 2

There's a lot of women who have that situation.

Speaker 4

There's a lot of women who have that situation.

I'm just gonna say that right now, and they will take care of a man all day several.

There's a lot of women like that, So I want to be very clear that it's not just.

Speaker 1

What they hang at.

Speaker 4

They hang around I don't know, but those.

Speaker 2

You know why, A lot of women do that too.

Speaker 4

Because a lot of women who are quote unquote bad bitches and get all their bodies in why do you think they got all their bodies in?

Speaker 2

Low self esteem?

What do you think women with low self esteem do?

Speaker 4

They can get with a man who can make them feel good because they're lower than them.

Speaker 2

So I'm gonna put you on a pedestal.

I'm gonna make you feel good.

Speaker 4

A lot of women like that have gotten their heartbroken from a celebrity man or an athlete or a rich man.

Speaker 2

So they're like, you know what, my self esteem is too?

Speaker 1

Low.

Speaker 4

I'm gonna go get with a man who worships the ground I walk on, who thinks I'm a boss.

And you don't know how many women do that.

I mean like I've seen thousands of women that look literally like oh the picture proplic.

Speaker 2

Ig model that have that as a man.

Speaker 4

And then a lot of people don't know that the man is broken because they build him up and they make him look a certain way and they give them their card when they go to dinner, pay with my card, and.

Speaker 1

Then when he shit on her, then where you go from.

Speaker 2

That's what happens.

That's what happens most of the time.

Speaker 4

And you know that there's so much that happened, Like if you look on the Shape Room, Oh, I was helping you that Hazel E girl, I was she got a man just like that, he was attractive, put him up, did all this.

Oh, then he shouted on her, and she's like, I gave you everything.

That happens all the time, So please don't confuse that.

Like there's a lot of bad bitches quote unquote who do that, and a lot of them bad bitches have mental problems and low self esteem and they're not mentally right, like that's just the truth.

Speaker 2

And I and I've seen it.

They're a little slow.

Speaker 4

And they just have these men that they get because they want to be praised alone, period, So like, don't ever get that twisted.

They wish they could be a lot of women with low self esteem can't even be with a man of that caliber because to be with a man who is rich, successful, handsome, tall, celebrities or whatever, you have to have a high level of self esteem because you cannot sit there and be with that type of man who gets all that attention every day and you know wherever he goes he's getting women thrown at him and have low self esteem.

Speaker 2

You can't.

You will be miserable every day.

Speaker 4

Crying, stress, cracked out, Like you cannot live like that.

So you gonna get with a man who's you know, not gonna do that, except he gonna end up doing that on you when you boss him up anyways, But it's not gonna be on the level that that man could do it.

Speaker 3

Let the men do it all the time, So why don't have no sympathy for that other these females.

Speaker 1

Up that got shave.

I don't go both ways because more men do it than women.

Speaker 2

You'll be surprised thousands.

Speaker 1

Of women than millions of men is doing that.

Speaker 4

Okay, it's never a competition, but I'm just letting you know that it's a lot of women who do that and men do that.

Speaker 2

For women to and both of them get shitted on.

Speaker 4

That's why the Bible says, get with someone you're equally yoked with peer, point blank.

And that doesn't mean financial.

People always think it means financial.

It's a mental thing.

Speaker 2

You need to be with some one that's mentally on that same level.

Period.

Anyways, Yeah, that was fast.

Subtle stuff is great.

Speaker 4

Like you have a problem, you have a serious problem.

Speaker 2

Like seriously, seriously.

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Speaker 4

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Speaker 1

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Speaker 3

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Speaker 4

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