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Speaker 1

Why are you trying to match a girl's energy.

Speaker 2

I'm trying to match your pettiness.

Do you understand what I'm saying?

Yeah?

Speaker 1

Why because you think make it right?

Speaker 2

When we go overseas we exotic.

Speaker 1

You love saying that.

Speaker 2

We think about all the places I go because look, I go to China, I go to Australia, they looking like, oh oh point really tall.

You know what I'm saying, We look like we dinosaurs before people look at us walking down the street like look.

Speaker 3

Being fetishized and being appreciated are two different things.

People fetishize Black men ooh you're tall, your skin like you're you're being fetishized.

That's the whole thing that white people are different.

Speaker 1

No, it's not.

Speaker 2

Black women are the most frowned upon by all the races.

Speaker 3

Have your preference, but don't bring us down while you're doing it.

If you want to be with a woman that's not American or not white, do that, but stop referencing it to a black woman.

Speaker 2

Who are our popular top women?

And what do they talk about?

Black women wan't to be treated a certain way, but act a certain way.

Speaker 1

You can't generalize a whole group of women.

Speaker 2

I'm trying to think what race you think least contributes to society.

Speaker 4

I don't think.

Speaker 2

This is the taking over the game.

All right, everybody, welcome to Truth after Dark.

Speaker 1

Do you think that men or women are more toxic?

Speaker 3

Hello, beautiful people, welcome to another episode of the Truth after.

Speaker 1

I can't wait a minute.

What I'm okay?

Speaker 2

Yeah, that's bad.

Go ahead, what's show?

Yeah?

Speaker 1

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm sorry.

This is crazy.

You have to scare me, They say, you scare me?

Speaker 2

That's crazy?

Okay, Hello, what's Hatten and Hatten and Hattening?

Y'all welcome to Truth after Dark with another episode.

Yeah, I am your boy, the Truth Paul Peasy and this is the Lovely bizare faaraday.

We're gonna jump right into it another week.

More topics to cover what you got on the menu today.

You're looking nice, thank you?

Speaker 1

So are you?

Okay?

So let's get into it.

Speaker 3

We're gonna go over some current events topics.

So number one is Cardi B is pregnant.

You know she's pregnant.

She just dropped her album.

She's in the streets shaking that ass.

But there's a lot of people who have things to say because they feel like, oh boy, Stefan album with platinum album is cracking.

I heard I haven't got a chance to let's do, but I heard the album is cracking.

A lot of people who feel like Stefan is trifling because he got like all these baby mamas.

I guess he has two babies simultaneously on the way right now, not including Cardi B.

So they're like, this man just does anything out in the streets.

So they feel like she's dumb.

She why she having a baby by this man?

They only been together X amount of time.

She just got she was married or she was we offset she has already these kids.

Speaker 1

Whatever the case may be, everyone has their opinion.

Speaker 2

Man card could do whatever she wants, living her best life.

She said, I didn't have the rapper.

Let me give me some NFL your dig and then you know, if that don't work out, we move on to the NBA.

After that.

You just never know, never know.

Speaker 3

I will say he has a type because his baby mama's they all look that same look like Cardi B.

Speaker 1

Yeah, they look like you know, Kyle Cardy.

Speaker 3

Looks like like superstars, like uh, the same type of look like Latina, like the body done like they all have that they're beautiful.

Speaker 1

I think they're all be for first of all, I love Cardi B.

No one can tell me nothing about Cardi B.

Speaker 3

Because she's authentic to herself and she always keeps it a stack and I love her.

Speaker 2

This is the thing, Cardi B knew who Offset was before getting it off set right, he did what he did.

She know who Stefan Diggs is before getting with him and how he moved So what that say about her?

You know what I'm saying though, So don't don't look at her and say why she moving on?

She she in the streets too, just like the head of the streets too, and her and just because some of it's public, but I bet it's a lot of stuff that ain't public.

Speaker 3

So but I will say that with Offset, he didn't have like a whole lot of shit going on, Like he don't have no whole bunch of baby moms and like crazy situations.

And I feel like, you know, sometimes you can have a perception of somebody and they can show you a different side of them, and you can believe that and you could fall for that, and you could be in love with that, and it could break your heart when you find out that it's really not what it is.

Speaker 1

So that's just my opinion.

Speaker 2

Look next up, I'm done.

Speaker 3

So Kresha wrote a letter for Diddy and everyone is like, oh, young Miami, Oh okay, you know they be a relationship.

Speaker 2

Yeah I know, but you's calling her by her government.

I didn't know that.

Speaker 1

Yeah yeah.

Speaker 3

So she's like goes by that time, Like her podcast is called Karesha Please Okay.

So she wrote a like a judgment what is it called a character reference for Diddy?

Speaker 1

And she's like he's a good man.

Speaker 3

She's just pumping them up, and people feel away because it's like, how can you say this is a good man when you saw him dragging Cassie across the floor on a video, you know.

Speaker 1

What I mean?

Speaker 3

And so people have their opinions and they're like she's so fucked up, Like how could she really give a character reference?

Speaker 1

Like do you have no heart?

Speaker 3

Like you're just gonna watch this man do all of this to the Cassie and this woman and you see it on video.

Speaker 2

What's she supposed to say?

Speaker 1

I'm just you Maybe she doesn't have to write a letter.

Speaker 2

Yeah I get it, but like damn, like every human being, regardless of their discretions or what they've done evil or not evil.

Like everybody has some type of support and people got to get over that.

If she wanted to defend him and show love through his time of need, that's on her, you know what I'm saying, Like it's ex murderers, serial killers that got a support system work.

Some people that's just like man, you know that go out for him?

So like, man, leave that alone.

Man, all this this society that we live in.

They're too sensitive and cancel culture.

And because somebody do one thing, you ain't supposed to say nothing to them or say nothing positive about them them.

I'm off that bullshit.

Speaker 1

But where does the line that you draw when it comes to that that.

Speaker 2

Was her x man.

So but this ain't like she ain't no fan, No, this is her x man.

She could go defend him.

Speaker 1

I'm not arguing you about this.

Speaker 3

I'm asking a question which you ask, and I'm saying, where do you draw the line though when you say, okay, you can say positive things about a person even though they had indiscretions, But what point is it like those indiscretions are because like if you're a pedophile, you're done, Like it might have been if you raping little children, it's out for you.

Like you have to have a moral compass and you, like people have to have something that they stand on, like that's why there's the Bible or if people believe in God or people have this.

You have to have some type of moral guiding that will tell you what you mess with and what you don't because it's too much going on in the world.

Speaker 2

A pedophile and I am your boy or your brother, my support for you is gonna be like here, listen, man, I'm gonna go to religion, Like here, I got this Bible.

Man, you really that ain't it?

That?

Ain't it?

Like that's like a whole other level.

Now when you talk about things like that and rape and all that.

That's like, man, I gotta I gotta bring a religion into the game now, like hey, we gotta pray, man, you and I gotta do it in silent.

I'm not letting the world know that I'm doing this.

You know what I'm saying.

People can support, but then it's silent.

Speaker 3

Well that's what people are saying about the Koreashia thing.

Yeah, because he was claimed to be a rapist and to do a lot of these things.

Speaker 2

Well, I feel like something is she don't have to let the world know.

Speaker 3

Yeah, And I think I get that.

You can support people in private, but because you're publicly supporting him and also helping, Like if I know rapist, a pedophile or anything, Am I going to help them.

Speaker 1

Get out of jail necessarily?

Speaker 3

No, maybe I'll support them while they're in jail and like send them books and help them with certain stuff.

But I mean, I think that, and I'm just being honest.

We live in a world where celebrities they're idolized too much and they can get away with a lot more so.

Anyways, the next thing is Devin Haney.

Is that how you say his name?

Speaker 1

Yeah, he's suing his ex for three hundred and fifty k.

Speaker 2

Run that back, run that jewelry and then watches and all that car.

Back run that.

Yeah.

Yeah, get over there.

I'm gonna be petty.

That's so because she probably was petty, So now I'm gonna be petty.

Run that back.

I need that.

Speaker 3

Well.

She was also the one that was pill talking to young thug while he was in jail, talking about crying.

Speaker 1

I wish I could be with you instead.

Speaker 2

Run them, run them that was a long.

Speaker 3

Time ago, and he decided to stay with her.

So that's his bad.

Speaker 2

Run that back, petty?

There, let's go.

I'm with you, dad, run that.

Speaker 1

I think that's really petty though, But what Yeah, but I.

Speaker 2

Just do it all the time, so I ain't trip.

Speaker 1

What are girls asking to run back?

Speaker 2

No, I'm saying they petty.

It ain't about the run back.

It's about the petty.

Speaker 1

But why are you trying to be like a girl?

Speaker 2

Everybody's petty?

It ain't the one.

Speaker 1

Girls do it all the time.

So why.

Speaker 3

I never said it was?

You said girls do it all the time.

So I said, why are you trying to match a girl's energy?

Speaker 2

I'm trying to match your pettiness.

Do you understand what I'm saying?

Speaker 1

Yeah?

Speaker 2

Why because you think make it right?

This is just what it is right now?

Speaker 1

Like, why can't.

Speaker 2

We you embarrassing me?

So now I'm embarrassing you on some petty sit.

Speaker 1

I feel like we need to live in a generation where you say.

Speaker 2

I do that.

I'm just saying I ain't mad at it.

Go ahead, Yeah, man, people, these females be trying to embarrass us all on social media all the time, and now this is this lick back.

This is a good way to look back without being actually, you know, being on some domestic Okay, cool, I'd rather God do that to a girl than be on some realized domestic you know what I'm saying.

We get it back in other ways.

Speaker 1

I would say this.

Speaker 3

I feel like men have to be smarter because you had a girl that was publicly talking to young thug in jail years ago or whenever that was.

It wasn't this year, and you literally stayed with this woman, married this woman women, and you continue to take the disrespect and then you continue to buy her three hundred and fifty K and gifts, and now you're so hurt and down bad that you gotta go to court and sue a woman for those things.

Speaker 2

My name is, my name is on that.

I didn't put it in your name.

Run that.

Speaker 1

Yep, his name is on what on the jury and.

Speaker 2

All that whatever.

Let's go run that back to original, back to the original place of setting.

Oh what we got?

What we got?

Oh man, the cops is coming after that one.

Speaker 1

I'm over it.

Next thing, okay, boom.

Speaker 3

So there's an NBA player and he went on justin La Boy's podcast and he was talking he just had a two hundred million dollar deal and he said that he goes fifty to fifty.

Speaker 1

With his girlfriend for rant, for everything.

Speaker 3

And Justin was like, what this is ridiculous, Like why would you do that?

Speaker 1

D da da da?

Speaker 3

And he was like, you know, I just feel like, what if we don't stay together?

And I'm like, I don't know if you're gonna be my wife and I'm doing all of this, but this is my girl.

And he was like, and you know, we did end up breaking up five months later, and he's like, so I didn't feel like this was someone that I was going to spend the rest of my life.

Speaker 1

I didn't know or not.

Speaker 3

So I felt like, yeah, I'm worth two hundred million.

And Justin was like, damn, and you know, she probably doesn't make a lot of money.

Speaker 1

She's trying to do this.

She's trying to do that.

And he was like, yeah, so I don't care.

Speaker 2

Damn.

Where was y'all living at?

Was you living with her?

Then?

Speaker 4

Yeah?

Speaker 1

He said that they got a spot.

Speaker 2

If you got two hundred million, then you probably gonna get something rent that's gonna be about like ten fifteen thousand.

Speaker 1

Look what he said.

Speaker 3

He asked her what she could afford, and he's like, I'll pay the other half of that.

Speaker 2

So he moved in with her.

Speaker 1

He moved I don't know moment, I'm.

Speaker 2

Just saying two hundred million.

You not living over there on Crenshaw like in Sloughson.

That's what she can afford.

Yeah, he can't afford over here in Beverly Hills and and Calabasas and all that, but he can.

So like, where's the fifty fifty coming in?

Are you talking about like with the like like the walking the dog or or or the housekeeper them type of bills, But because we're talking about like rent and the real bills, then nah.

Speaker 1

No, Yeah.

Everyone.

Speaker 3

A lot of people were outraged in the comments and justin the interviewer was like, this is crazy.

Speaker 2

Why wasn't.

Speaker 1

Who was it Darnell?

Oh gosh, what's his name?

Michael Porter Jr.

Speaker 2

Yeah, I think it's cap.

Speaker 1

You think he's lying.

Speaker 2

I think that's okay.

Speaker 1

Well, yeah, he said that the bills were Uh.

Speaker 3

He said that he was with her for five months and then they broke up, and he's trying to debate, like she wants him to still pay her rent for the rest of the year because he made that promise.

He was like, Okay, if we break up, I'll put you and pay your rent and help you for the rest of the year.

He made the promise, but he's saying to Justin, he don't know if he want to continue.

Speaker 2

It just costs money to be with a girl.

Just this is cost Like, man, it just costs, Like you just be like, damn, pay for the rest of my year and were not together.

What if I get with another girl.

I'm with her but she found out I'm paying another girl, Like how that's gonna work?

Speaker 1

Oh right, right right?

Speaker 3

If you have another girl and then they're finding out.

Speaker 1

You don't need to be doing all that like you, Yeah, exactly, that is tricky.

That is true, like.

Speaker 3

Losing it like you a whole other woman's ranks, Like yeah, that's wild.

So that goes into there was this text that some guy sent to his girl and everyone was like analyzing it on the internet and he was basically like, hey, babe, I know that we're supposed to do like a Valentine's Day dinner, but unfortunately I had to pay my baby mama's car note, so I can't do nothing for you tonight.

But why don't you grab some wine and some groceries and come over.

Speaker 1

And we could just chill.

Speaker 2

Right, that's cool.

Speaker 1

I think that's cool.

Speaker 3

But people have the issue with like, why are you paying your baby mama's cardo, Like that's not pertaining to the kids technically, So why are you paying that?

Speaker 1

So I can see it from both sides.

Speaker 3

Because like, how is my kids getting around if she can't pay the car?

Speaker 4

No, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3

She obviously needs a car and she helps take the kids to school or whatever the case is.

But women were in the comments and they were like, that would never have been a problem if he didn't say he's paying his baby mama's cardinal.

Speaker 1

If it was just like.

Speaker 3

Bills are piled up, this is going on.

I can't you know, like I can't do it.

Speaker 1

Come over.

Speaker 3

That's different.

But women are like, so how long have you been paying this card?

Why are you paying her car?

Speaker 2

Not?

Yeah?

Yeah, this is the thing.

You can't I get it to show.

It's the mother of your child and she asking it.

That means she's being irresponsible with the child support because the most important bills is taking care of the rent in the car.

Yeah, you know, what I'm saying, like say the car, no, probably like between what two fifty, say five hundred, like what's going on, Like it's probably somewhere around there and she can't take care of that.

Like but I don't know, you know what the child's sporty paying either.

Maybe he only giving her like five hundred a month that had to go towards the rent.

She didn't have no money for the car.

So I ain't really bad at that.

You know, it is the mother's kid, and you don't want her to not get in the work or not be undertake the kid.

I get it to school.

So you know, I've never I don't think i've I ain't never been in that situation where it's like a bill like that.

No, but you know it's understandable though I ain't mad at that.

Speaker 3

I can understand that from the point of like you need somewhere, you need to get your kids to A and B, and this is the mother of my child and she helps.

Speaker 2

Yeah, you could just be like I got a car, she could she or he could live with me.

I could take her to school.

Speaker 1

Yeah you could do that too.

Yeah, I mean okay, So.

Speaker 3

Moving on, Lebron James he came out and he said the three keys to a long relationship because obviously Savannah and hadn't been together for a long time.

Speaker 1

And he said that this shit is not easy.

It's a lot of work.

Speaker 3

And he said the three strongest points are communication, honesty, and being okay with being uncomfortable.

Yes, which we're interesting for those to be the top three.

Speaker 2

See listen, like, if you want to know about being in a long term, I'm gonna listen to guys like Lebron.

Speaker 1

Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 2

I'm gonna listen to guys like because like when you look at them, they look like from the Afar.

It's picture perfect, you know.

And I'm gonna listen to guys like Magic Johnson who's been with his wife for like forever.

I'm gonna listen to people like that's like kind of like and that's famous too, because it's harder, you know.

I'm gonna listen to like what jay Z and Beyonce say about how they, you know, been able to stick it out and what they've been through.

So you know, like if he's saying you gotta you gotta listen to it because they've been together, they were still and you gotta understand the pressures from her, the pressures from him.

He over here, he gone a lot.

He on the road, he played twenty years traveling out the country for Nike, for this and that, and it's just like, man, we're still strong, We're still together after all that, and you ain't never really heard of, like no real real public turmoil between them.

Speaker 1

So that's right, Yeah, that's real.

Speaker 2

That's you know, so like if you're gonna have a blueprint on how to do it as far as like a guy that's in like the famous notoriety, just like somebody like that.

But it's it's harder now because he's in the spotlight.

Yeah, you know, so like everybody see where he go, what he doing, So it's harder to like make mistakes.

Speaker 3

M you can go both ways, yeah, because it could be easier because men that are famous and have money get women thrown out them all the time, you know, for the wrong reasons obviously, because.

Speaker 2

You know it like when you got the social media and you got the cameras and yeah.

Speaker 1

People you got videotape, you.

Speaker 2

Get caught up, Like you can get caught up easy.

Speaker 3

You almost have to be at a private location, n DA and it's a lot of work at that third.

Speaker 2

Parties involved making calls and Texas money bag gotta be right for the like.

Come on, it's a lot that go on.

That's that's too much other work at this stage.

Speaker 3

So what do you interpret him saying being okay with being uncomfortable to me?

Speaker 2

Well, he says, you gotta be uncomfortable.

Speaker 1

You gotta be okay with me, You.

Speaker 2

Gotta be okay with being uncomfortable.

Well, it's gonna be some things that you ain't gonna like about your spouse and about you know that you gotta and it's gonna probably be a little uncomfortable or they're gonna do some things and it's just like, well all these other things is great, you know, watch the well on that, you know, because it do become a time when you around each other so long that it's gonna be some things that you ain't really feeling and it's gonna make you a little like Dan, she coming home at four in the morning, but you're like, damn, I just came home at for more.

Like it's like, damn, it's gonna be things that happen.

She went on a trip with her girls and said she'd be back in three days, come back in seven days.

Speaker 1

Well these are wild disrespectful things.

Speaker 2

No, no, no, just like we just added on to it.

It's just like, well, it's gonna be some stuff that makes you uncomfortable.

Speaker 1

Right, Yeah, I can understand that, I know, but it ain't consistent.

Speaker 2

It ain't a consistent of comfort.

It's like once every blue moon.

Speaker 3

I think I would interpret it as having uncomfortable conversations because that's where the growth lies.

And I feel like a lot of times in relationships, whether it's your family, your friends, or your lover, your partner, I feel like we brush a lot of things under the rug because some conversations are too uncomfortable to have, so we allow it to fester.

And that's where we end up having resentment and gripes towards our partner because we don't want to address the uncomfortable conversations.

We don't want to come to you and be like, hey, look this is that and actually work through it and really work together to come to a solution, you know, because those are uncomfortable.

When you have to have those conversations that nobody wants to bring up, nobody wants to talk about it, I'd rather just put a band aid on it and deal with it later, sweep it under the rug, and then you build all of this resentment towards each other.

And I feel like being uncomfortable is about having those conversations.

Speaker 2

Well uncomfortable if you want to keep it one hundred.

The most uncomfortable conversation you're going to have in a relationship is going to be something about revolving either the kids or some cheating.

Speaker 1

I would disagree.

Speaker 2

The most uncomfortable conversations, I feel like everything else, Like, what's more uncomfortable than that.

Speaker 3

There's a lot of things that are uncomfortable, Like you know, there's things that you have to address with people that are not going to make them happy, that are going to feel weird, and you feel awkward about having to say it, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1

For instance, we can give an.

Speaker 3

Example, Babe, Sexually, I don't feel satisfied.

That's uncomfortable as hell.

Sexually, it's not doing it for me.

That's super uncomfortable because either parties are going to feel inadequate and secure.

Do you want someone else?

That's a hard conversation.

So do you continue to have sex with this person and not say anything and not be satisfied, or do you communicate it because a lot of people will continue having the sex and they won't say what they really need because it's uncomfortable or same thing, babe.

Speaker 1

You know, I think that's uncomfortable for you for a lot of people.

Speaker 3

It is, though, that would be uncomfortable for me to come to somebody and be like, hey, this is that I will one hundred percent do it at this state in my life.

But have I been in that situation And it's scary to address someone because I don't want them to.

Speaker 2

Feel I've been liking it this long right now.

Speaker 1

Right, it's crazy.

Now, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3

You let things build up and it's crazy now.

Yeah, it's like a bunch of uncomfortable things though, like, hey, you're gaining weight and it's looking crazy for you.

No, it's uncomfortable as a woman.

If your man is telling you that those uncomfortable it could be the real uncomfortable, hard truths you need to hear and you need those conversations.

Speaker 1

You need to have those conversations.

Speaker 3

But there's a lot of stuff like that, Like, it's a lot of stuff when it has to do appearance, sex, the way that.

Speaker 1

You're you know, romanticized with each other all of that.

Speaker 2

Yeah, I get it.

Yeah, you're right.

Speaker 3

So for you, that's his top three keys to a long relationship.

Speaker 1

What would you say, are yours keys to a top to three keys to a long relasting relationship?

Those were his?

Speaker 2

Uh?

I think the three keys and I don't really we had no order.

I think I think I said this to you before.

I think you have to be comfortable with being bored with each other.

Yeah, but to you it's not really on the outside looking in, it may sound boring, but like like you could just be sitting there watching the movie, but that could be the world to you and to everybody else, they're gonna look at like, y'all born, y'all I'll do to sit on the couch and watch TV.

Well, to us, that's that's everything.

So it has to be a point where you be comfortable and being bored with each other.

I think keys is communication obviously, That's like number one.

I think communication is everything.

Speaker 1

Yeah.

Speaker 2

And then the third one ish like I'm proud of your faith.

I mean damn, because like if we kind of share the same faith and we go through something and we can pray about it together.

Yeah, maybe that can help us get through some things.

You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1

I can see that.

I can see that.

Speaker 3

Okay, I will probably say instead of communication, for me, it would be understanding because you can communicate all day, but if the person doesn't understand what you mean, it will go nowhere.

Speaker 1

I can continue.

Speaker 3

You could talk to me and I just don't get it, you know, but I feel like understanding and coming to a place of understanding is more important in my opinion, because you could be telling me something that I don't.

I don't get it at all because maybe you're a man or maybe this, But if you help me understand it, then I can be like, oh, that makes all of sense.

So I would say understanding for sure, But you can't have the understanding without the communication.

So communication, and I think that the last thing.

Speaker 2

Would be well if you said you can't have the understand what the communication is that all in one?

Speaker 1

No, too, that's two different things.

Speaker 3

So like understanding, okay, you have to communicate obviously, And I think honesty too, I would I would take that from Leron.

I would definitely say being real and honest and not trying to sugarcoat things.

To make people just comfortable, like being able to express your needs or why that bothered you, or why you need this here or that there, because sometimes you genuinely don't know and you could be doing something to piss up what off early and they don't know that, so they're just walking around and you're annoyed as hell, but you don't tell them, and they're like, this is regular for me.

Like I had that in one of my relationships where I would do something and it just random low and it was like, damn, I never knew that until he told me after being so mad about it for like months.

Speaker 2

The only way I won't say nothing is if I told you a couple of times and you continue to do it and it's just like yeah, yeah, I can't just keep.

Speaker 1

Telling yeah for sure, I understand that.

Speaker 2

Yeah, and I've been in those type of situations.

Yeah, I keep telling you the same thing.

You don't get it.

Yeah, it's just like what I'm go ahead.

Speaker 1

Yeah, you know what I'm saying exactly, Like you're beating a dead horse.

You don't want to keep it.

I can't just keep like exactly.

Speaker 2

A thinking of that when I'm putting down.

Speaker 1

Yeah, I get that too.

Speaker 3

At what point do you decide, like is that worth ending the relationship and you feel like you've addressed issues multiple times that are not changing.

Speaker 2

It depends on the level of it.

Yeah, you know, it could be a level three level three out of like five is not like once it gets to level four level five.

As far as severity of like the the communication and the things that y'all talk about that ain't really like, uh, how do I want to put it?

The things that y'all go through that's like high level at that's like severe like a like a you know how these category five hurricanes, it's like it's got to be level three.

We still we ain't breaking up over level three stuff.

When they started being more level four things and more than one or two or three or four level four, that mean level five is gonna be next and that's coming.

It's gonna happen.

Speaker 1

Yeah, I get that.

Okay, So.

Speaker 3

Before we move on, I just want to say thank you when I said uncomfortable conversations and like saying, like someone, babe, you're gaining weight.

I appreciate you for not talking about me being to eighty because that was a perfect place for you to say that you didn't and you're growing and I'm proud of you for that.

Speaker 1

Genuinely.

Speaker 5

Wait, wait, you all, anytime I bring up weight, you're gonna say something about to eighty and I brought it up and you didn't do it, and I'm just really just want to say thank you and I'm proud of you.

Speaker 2

Everybody already though I didn't have to bring that up, you.

Speaker 1

Brought it up any other time.

Speaker 4

They knew it for the time.

Speaker 2

It was or eighty three.

Speaker 1

I was two seventy nine.

Actually that was the biggest I ever.

I didn't make it.

I was to seventy nine.

Suck you.

We're not going down this path, Okay, So I have a question.

Speaker 2

So got a question.

Speaker 3

Do you feel And I already know the answer to this, but we're gonna dig deep on how you feel like this could change.

And I don't want you to be like hesitant to say anything.

It's not gonna happen.

But do you feel that black men are appreciated and do you feel like black men have always been like they never have been appreciated.

Do you think it was like better back in the day.

Do you think it's getting worse progressively?

Like what do you feel about that.

Speaker 2

I mean it's such a like broad yeah yeah, but.

Speaker 3

It is like black men by race, not by race, by women.

Yeah, by women, and they're kids like their children, and women think.

Speaker 2

Were the most appreciated race on the planet by women.

Speaker 1

All right, you think you men are appreciated.

Speaker 2

I think you said, I think us, as black man, we have the most appreciated on planet Earth, on planet Earth by women.

Really, yeah, even if it's not by our own by all the other races they mess with us.

Speaker 3

Well, you know that statistically, black women are the most loyal to their own race.

Speaker 1

Did you know that?

So you're talking about it.

Speaker 2

Just makes it just makes sense because black women.

People don't like Black women.

Other races don't like black Women's true.

Speaker 1

These black these white men.

Speaker 2

Are then because a lot of them, a lot of them, I'm not saying that they were beautiful, but a lot of them they prejudice.

Like you know, you go to Europe, they're looking at black them like they're looking at you go over there, what you're doing over here?

Like you know what I'm saying, They looking at black women.

They just do.

Speaker 3

I think that there's a lot of men who want black women.

I think separately secretly, yes, but now more publicly, now that things are shifting in the society, I feel like a lot of like every race of man has wanted me.

Speaker 2

Black women are the most frowned upon by all the races.

Speaker 1

I could see that.

Speaker 2

You know what I'm saying, it's not but it's just it's just they are.

Speaker 3

But you're saying that black You just said that other races don't want Black women, and that's a lie.

Speaker 2

They they do, but they just culturally sometimes it just don't look good on the outside, like publicly, but on it they do low key, like low key.

I have seen it.

Speaker 1

I don't even think it's low key.

They high key because.

Speaker 3

A lot of the women now who are not black are creating black features to look like black women, getting bbls, getting their lips done, getting all the stuff dressing.

Again, black people culturally create the vibe.

So at the end of the day, all the culture is from black people, period point blake.

So you are emulating a black woman, You're just in a different syndern.

Speaker 2

The black woman is the most underappreciated.

Speaker 1

Yeah, on the planet Earth, and you see more than black men.

Speaker 2

I think we're the most appreciated, really, Yeah, because you gotta understand when we go like we we bigger, were stronger, we more athletic than all the races.

Right our DNA is the strongest out of all the races.

You know.

We put you mix black with anything, it's gonna turn you know.

And then so like when we go overseas, we exotic.

Speaker 1

You love saying that.

Speaker 2

We think about all the places I go because look, I go to China, I go to Australia.

They looking like, oh oh point they tall, like they just you know what I'm saying, We look like we dinosaurs be people look at us walking down the street like look, you know, it's crazy.

You know, you go to Greece, you go to you go to Italy, you go to Australia, you go to China, you go to these different places and you're the only one you in the club and you're the only one in there, like yeah.

Speaker 3

But being fetishized and being appreciated are two different things.

People fetishize Black men ooh, you're tall, you're skin like, you're you're being fetishized.

That's a whole thing that white people are different.

Speaker 2

No, it's not the same thing.

Speaker 1

It's definitely not.

It's nowhere to hear the same thing.

Speaker 3

They don't appreciate you, and they don't give a damn about if you live or die.

They fetishize the fact that you're tall, you're black, you look a certain way, and it's exciting to them.

It's like they're at a museum.

That's what they used to do in slavery days.

They used to make black people fight each other and they can watch it.

Speaker 1

That's what they bring.

Speaker 3

No, no, no, because the point is is are fetishized.

That's being fetishized we're talking about.

But you said, but this.

Speaker 2

Is what's blowing me.

Speaker 3

Okay, you told me earlier that black men are not appreciated by their by nobody.

You literally said that, So now I'm confused at what the switches.

So now you guys are the most appreciated man in the world because.

Speaker 2

You have said that the world is a big place.

Speaker 1

I said by women, I said by the people.

Are black men?

Do they feel appreciated?

Do they feel like?

Speaker 2

Yeah?

Speaker 3

Because you've said on this podcast a million times that black men are not appreciated, that women don't make men feel good, appreciated for things they do for you, you never said that.

You can check that this is Please Darnell, You're gonna have to please say that and put it in this clip.

Speaker 1

Please.

Speaker 2

You said that, Uh it has something to do like why Like I never said we are unappreciated by everybody, appreciated by certain groups.

Speaker 1

And one of those groups.

Speaker 2

Cops.

Uh all right, you know politicians m hm.

And but when we talk about when we just start digging into like the city and and the people everything, you know, it's just it's levels to this.

We appreciate it.

Speaker 1

Okay, I cannot so you changed your mind.

Speaker 2

Maybe, like all right, so look, I just want to make sure I'm saying on an overall bigger scale, but.

Speaker 1

Getting it off of the bigger scale.

Speaker 2

And we appreciated like around the world.

Speaker 3

But I'm not asking about that, which about from just women?

Are we talk about relationships?

I'm not talking about the world.

I'm saying, do black men feel appreciated in their relationships with women and feel like they can you know, get that power from a woman like I feel good about doing this, I feel great, Like this man is suing the girl for all these gifts and all of this stuff.

Like did you feel unappreciated?

What what is the reason?

And I hear a lot of men say that they're not appreciated, they're not cared for, they're not asked.

Speaker 1

Are you doing okay?

How are you feeling?

What's going on?

Speaker 3

I appreciate you, I love you, and You've said this a lot of times, so now I'm just confused about what the switch up.

Speaker 1

And that's good.

Speaker 2

Now I'm switching it up because I've traveled a lot and I've seen it.

Speaker 1

It's just traveled a lot since like a month ago.

He said.

Speaker 2

It's just not local appreciation.

It's just like appreciation around the world.

Speaker 1

So you're saying, for since a couple of months, you've been able to travel the.

Speaker 3

World, and now you feel like, see what do you appreciation post?

Speaker 1

Appreciation?

Like what do you see on Instagram?

Speaker 2

Just appreciation post?

Speaker 1

And what is that?

Speaker 2

I'm just people around the world.

Speaker 1

It's just like black man, we love you.

Speaker 2

You don't have to say that.

I mean, I'm obviously that's what I am.

We don't have to say.

Speaker 1

But I'm saying, what do you see?

Like I'm asking so I can.

Speaker 2

Know pure creature of God, you are just we love your skin.

Speaker 3

You're me mass Like I'm trying to have a serious conversation, but you're not getting serious.

So anyways, you you had a whole nother viewpoint, and I'm just I really want to have this clipped in because you had a whole nother viewpoint multiple times.

So I'm just really shocked that now you're saying black men are the most appreciated by women.

Speaker 2

Women because you made a specific by women.

Speaker 3

Know you've said specifically by women is who black men are not appreciated.

Speaker 2

I never said that, okay, man, Like you said, it's like the lady gets so juiced to what he's doing all the time.

It turned into entitlement.

Damn that part, and they get unappreciated it.

And it's just like like like women, y'all, like every now and then could just be like, damn, I appreciate you once a month.

You know how much of a man that just as a man as us as a man who provide and as a leader, who do who do who?

Just like I want to make sure your life is happy.

Just to hear those words, you ain't got to cut clean.

If you just said, damn man, you know when I'm proud of you out that right there, That'll make a nigga feel like he's ten ft tall.

Puld that clip up.

Speaker 1

I check that, Okay, I will all right.

I cannot wait for that.

So now, what what happens when you're wrong?

Speaker 2

Well, we'll talk about it.

Speaker 5

Right.

Speaker 1

That sounds good because I got to.

Speaker 2

See what kind of context I put it in.

You know, a man said something, you know, I must have been slipping.

Are black women appreciated by men?

Speaker 1

Our black women appreciated by man?

Speaker 4

Yeah?

Speaker 1

I mean I don't know.

Speaker 3

I feel like nowadays, I think that other races, like how you do a lot, are more put on a pedestal.

And I see that a lot, especially from you, And so I feel like, you know, black women do kind of feel disrespected and they feel underappreciated a lot of the time.

Yes, because all I see on the internet is black men downing black women every day.

Speaker 1

In our comments, it's way more men.

Speaker 3

I would assume when I started this journey that it would be women hating on women.

Every bad negative comment about me is mainly from a man.

Speaker 1

I rarely see a woman comment negative.

Speaker 3

And I didn't know men were so catty like that and so quick to want to put a black woman down like she's trash, she's this's that she's like the most horrible things you can think of.

Speaker 1

And I'm like, who raised y'all?

Speaker 3

Because I come from a generation and my dad and how I was taught, Like, I never see my dad talk down on a woman like that.

Even if he can't outstand this motherfucker, he's not gonna sit in my face and pillow talk about another woman or bring her down.

He probably did it behind in his own room, like this bitch, you know, but it.

Speaker 1

Was never that.

Speaker 3

And I feel like black women, all I see on the internet is how white women are better, American non American women are better, this and that are better, better or better, And it's like, have your preference, but don't bring us down while you're doing it.

If you want to be with a woman that's not American or not white, do that, but stop referencing it to a black woman.

Because when black women get with white men, they're not talking about black men are trash.

They're just loving and living their life with this white man, period.

And it's like, you don't have to sit here and down the other race because you don't want.

Speaker 1

To fuck with them.

You don't have to do that.

At the end of the day.

Speaker 3

If you want to mess with a white woman and an Asian woman, and this woman go.

Speaker 1

Do that and leave us out of the conversation, period, point blank.

Speaker 3

And I think that that's what the women are frustrated about.

And if we have an opinion on this, we're aggressive.

See she has too much of an opinion.

Speaker 1

That's why they don't like it.

That's because you talk.

Okay, Well, this is.

Speaker 2

The thing too.

And the reason why black women get so much hate is because how we on our TV shows across these platforms, how people look at us.

So when you start looking, they look at us like an ignorant group of people.

And especially like when you look across the platforms and you start looking at the real housewives of whatever, and we glorify the shaking that ass, We glorify the fighting, we glorify the talking about each other.

I'm talking about like black women, we like we we we glorify.

Speaker 1

You know that white women.

Speaker 2

Are off the chain to you know that white.

Speaker 3

Women do that too, though not us Jersey Shore, the housewives of like Pontiac or the other housewives of Beverly Hills as white women.

Speaker 1

It's not Black women on that at all.

Speaker 3

So I'm letting you know there's a lot of housewives that are not the one you know is basketball wives.

Speaker 1

I'm talking about the real Housewives of Beverly Hills.

Speaker 3

Is all white women throwing drinks at each other, cursing each other out.

But guess what, it is not as bad because they're white, right.

It's not as aggressive, it's not as ghetto, it is not as raunchy because they're white women doing it.

Black women are always held to a way higher standard.

We always have to prove why we deserve to have a seat at the table.

We always have to prove that we deserve to be here, no matter.

We always have to be way more classier than you.

A white girl can come in here half naked, and I can come in here with a little titty showing, and guess what, I'm a whore.

Like it's always going to be this compared, and I think that Black women are tired of being compared.

Do I agree with you that culturally black people are doing too much shaking ass and this and that.

Speaker 1

Yes, I don't think you're wrong.

Speaker 3

Like Zeus Network and Jocelyn's Cabernet and all of that stuff is out of line.

Speaker 2

It's the thing where you're American culture.

Yeah, you're being more watched than anybody.

Like when you think about culture in America, who sets the trends, who sets the tone for how we dress, how we look, how we act, how we run, how we play sports.

It's us.

Speaker 1

Yeah, I agree.

Speaker 2

So we're already up here as far as eyeballs watching us.

So then people around the world are going to assume, just like from watching us on every microscope and every camera and every national platform, that's how we are.

But we don't do us no favors by by having putting more shows out there like the Cosby's or or just like a classy Housewives of this show.

No, we want the drama and we feed off the drama because that's where the money is.

Now.

It's about clout, It's about who can make the most noise, who who could get the most attention, And we become attention worse for the money.

It's just but if that's the only way that black women can make money, and I'm not saying that that is the only way, but like when they're throwing dollars at black women being ignorant to one another, it feeds into it.

Yeah, and that's what people see.

I agree with that, and now that's our perception of one another, and that's why we're looked at as a race, and that's how Black wom are looked at for that perception of being ignorant and men not wanting them from other races because of that.

But it's entertaining.

Speaker 1

But I will say.

Speaker 3

That I see a lot of women with these other races now, and I've seen a lot of it recently, and I'm like, Okay, these other races are messing with these women and these Black women and Black women are going to these other races and they're feeling like appreciated or whatever the case may be.

Is what I have seen from a lot of people these days.

So I do see that there's a shift.

And I was actually just thinking about it the other day.

I'm like, look, if you're happy somewhere else and you want to be with a different race, do that.

I don't think there's any problem with that.

I'm a biracial product of a biracial parents, so I can't even hate on that at the end of the day.

But I think the bigger problem is with this platform, we have to make sure that we're creating unity more than separation.

Like, what are the things how can we problem solve this?

What are the things that we can do to close the gap between black men and black women?

How can we be more united at the end of the day, you know, And I think that that's really really important, and I think that's something that we should focus on more because every day on the Internet, all you see is why this person is, why women don't love?

What are the solutions we see?

Speaker 1

Everyone is very problem based out of all of our.

Speaker 2

Our role models, our top women, Like yeah, in this generation, yeah, Like who are our popular top women?

And what do they talk about?

Speaker 1

Michelle Obama?

She has a podcast?

Speaker 2

No, no, this generation don't relate to her.

She's older.

They're not.

They're not following Michelle Obama.

Maybe an older generation is.

They're following sexy red Cardi B.

They're following uh are what are Golorilla?

They're following Meggan the Stallion.

What do they talk about?

Shaking a ass, popping that pea?

Dressing like this and our kids are watching this?

Speaker 1

Yeah, I agree with you, Like who.

Speaker 2

Is who is the face?

Who is the face for this generation?

Those are the faces that the kids look up to they turn on the TV.

This is what they think.

They don't have to turn on the TV no more.

We're going to our phone and now this is what we got on twenty four hours a day to look at this.

Oh damn that was We just saw Cardi right there, We just saw Megan, We just saw sexy Oh she said this.

We can't be hypocrites to this dog.

We can't be because this is what's being prec this is what's getting fed to us.

Speaker 1

But where's the hypocrisy coming in?

Speaker 2

Like the hypocrisy is coming into.

Speaker 3

Like because those are not my role models.

So where is the hypocrisy.

Speaker 2

The hypocrisy is Black women want to be treated a certain way, but act a certain way.

Speaker 3

You can't generalize a whole group of women.

Those are influences, yeah, but you can't generalize a whole group of women, not all women, not all.

Speaker 1

Yeah, exactly.

So there is a group.

Speaker 2

Where do I go to see that group?

Where's that group at?

Speaker 1

Where are you at?

Because change where you're at and you'll see that.

Speaker 2

Group that group.

Where can I get a group of black women in one place?

Uh?

That's like not being on some like crazy shit like on some like sexy Red Megan Stallion, Like I.

Speaker 3

Don't go out and just see groups of women looking like making the stallion and that.

Speaker 2

Yeah, that's what I see.

Is you go to any high school, any public school.

Speaker 1

So high schools now, I don't know that, go to.

Speaker 2

The public schools, you go there, you go to the because I go to high.

Speaker 1

School games, right, I don't know about saying.

Speaker 2

So I'm seeing the youth.

Yeah, I'm seeing what they own.

Speaker 1

Yeah, I can't say it.

Speaker 2

And I'm like, damn, ain't nobody dressing regular no more?

Speaker 1

Yeah, I can see it.

Speaker 3

Damn I can't speak to the youth because I really am not involved or englfed in that.

Speaker 2

So, I mean, you know, that's what I see.

Yeah, that's unfortunate that it is, but that's culture we live in.

Speaker 3

Yeah, I get it.

At the end of the day.

I mean, listen, you can't change the world.

You can only change what you do and what you surround yourself with and what kind of role model you decide you want to be for these kids and what you decide to listen to every day, you know what I mean.

So I think those things are really important and I think, like I said, you know, if you could just be better for yourself and it can help some other people, That's all you.

Speaker 1

Could do, because it is bad right now.

Speaker 3

We're in a crazy space, and I think that both black women and black men have contributed to that.

Speaker 2

I'm trying to think, what race you think least contributes to society.

Speaker 4

I don't think I want to.

Speaker 1

I'm not going to answer that.

I'm scared.

Speaker 2

Race least contributes to society.

Speaker 1

Or what race is?

Just like ducked off?

Is that's a better way to put it.

Speaker 2

Like not all that you just never hear about, hardy, that just be like somewhere in like middle of Europe somewhere that you just don't even know about.

Speaker 3

They gotta they just like Polish people from Poland certain races thing.

Speaker 1

No, but let me just say this.

Speaker 3

I was in Switzerland, right and I was at a dinner for the chef or whatever, and we had like a chef dinner and there was this guy.

He was from Switzerland and he had like an accent and he didn't speak a lot of English.

This man, he was a white like whatever whatever races in Switzerland.

Speaker 1

He's that and he has like blonde hair and he is over there quoting black culture like videos.

He's like bang bang bang, so yeah, bitch, like and it was blowing me.

I was like, I'll never forget this because I'm.

Speaker 2

Like, you got a way you just said he was quoting black culture bang bang bang.

Speaker 3

Yeah no, because it's a video where it's like it's this guy he's like, bang bang bang, I'm in the hood, I'm in the ghetto.

Speaker 1

Yeah No.

It was just a viral video that was on the internet and he was just like bang bang bang and stuff that and he was quoting that and then he was like, bitch, please, like just say it all this like black slang.

Speaker 3

And it was crazy because I'm like, why do you know this?

And I'll never forget that.

No, But that's the point it made me realize I'm in Switzerland.

I was either in Germany or yeah, one of those places, because I went to like five places in a week.

Speaker 1

But that was crazy to me and I couldn't believe it.

Speaker 3

So, yeah, I do understand how much influence that black culture does have.

And I think right now, we're just lost and we're just all over the place.

And I feel bad for young girls that feel like they have to live up to that and have these bodies and have this and be perfect and all.

Speaker 1

Of that stuff.

But yeah, so anyways, thank you guys for tuning in.

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