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Trevor Jackson Speaks On His Recent Break-Up, Bringing Back Love, & His New Album | Truth After Dark
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What point did you say like, she ain't she loves me for me?
Speaker 2Like, like, what, what.
Speaker 3Man?
Speaker 1Has your ex text texted you?
Since this song has heard.
Speaker 4She hasn't.
I'm definitely reaching out, like, wow, you're writing all this.
Speaker 1We don't want to break up, Yeah, I generally we don't want to wake up.
Speaker 4Women don't want to break up either, but unfortunately we're pushed to that at one point.
Speaker 5And I want to make sure that a lot of older men understand that my dad is one of those people.
Speaker 6I know a lot of people.
Speaker 4Know he thought me, I have to get a back older woman every time.
Speaker 3No one watches it and said she's not feminine.
Speaker 6No, we we.
Speaker 4Know they do.
They come from me, those people.
Speaker 2Those people, then, well you're the one said I don't say he is.
He just said strong, strong voice.
Speaker 4And stop doing this.
Speaker 7This is blowing this right, It's like what this is?
Speaker 4This is low We stop this like I'm not giving blotty builder.
Speaker 1This is the taking over the game, all right, everybody, Welcome to Truth after Dark.
Speaker 4Do you think that men or women are more toxic?
Hello, beautiful people, welcome to another episode of the Truth after Dark.
I'm your host Aazar.
Speaker 2For to Day and I'm your boy, Paul Truth the.
Speaker 4Truth, and Tonight we are joined by an incredible actor with an incredible voice.
You've seen him on Grown Ish, You've seen him on Gray's Anatomy, and he just dropped the EP I Love You Goodbye with a breakup album on the way that everyone's waiting on.
Please welcome Trevor Jackson.
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Yeah, we're super excited to have you.
So you have a new album that's coming out, Yes, in about like a week or so, right, nine days.
So how are you feeling.
I know that it's a breakup album, right yes, So yeah, like we got to get into this okay, cause you know, of course, of course, I feel like to be creative, you have to have that pain a little bit.
Speaker 5Yeah, yeah, Yeah, I'm excited about it.
Speaker 6It feels like there's a weightlifted.
You know.
Speaker 5I have other music that I have done, but I was like, I want to be able to move forward in life, and I have this thing that I made in a place of healing, you know, still resting on me.
So the fact that I get to put it out into the world and could potentially, you know, help somebody through their breakup or whatever.
Speaker 6Yeah, then my job is done, you know.
Speaker 4So Okay, can you talk to us about the breakup a little bit?
Speaker 6Yeah?
I guess it just it just didn't work, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5I think we were just two people young, trying to make something work that just didn't, you know, trying to put a triangle in a circle, you know what I mean.
Like it just it didn't work, and you know, it ended she broke up.
Speaker 6With me, which is you know, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4Women always break Yeah, men don't break up.
Speaker 6Yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 4Women usually do the breaking up.
But then we'll do a lot of shit to make her breakup.
And that's the truth.
How long were you guys together?
Speaker 6About six years?
Speaker 4Oh that's a bit?
Were you holding on and fighting for?
Speaker 6Yeah?
Speaker 5I think even when I maybe knew it wasn't the right thing, just because I'm that type of person, like my whole life, I've had to just kind of you know, swallow my pride and just you know, even every if everything doesn't fall perfectly into a line.
Speaker 6I still know how to work through and push through, and I think that was also to my own detriment in this situation.
Speaker 5You know, I'm just like I wanted to work, I wanted to be right, you know, Yeah, and you know, you live, you learn, and you I'm thankful for it, you know what I'm saying.
Where I'm at now, I would go through it a billion times again.
I was able to create some incredible music and I think again I'll be able to help a lot of people through through a tough time.
Speaker 2That's what I'm talking about.
I've been through that before.
Speaker 1I've been through relationship break up like the first Girls Windows with like seven eight years and I felt like it was over three years before it actually.
Speaker 6Ended, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1Yeah, yeah, but you try to make it work because, like like you said, like we say, guys, we don't want to break up.
Speaker 2Yeah, I genuinely don't want to wake up.
Speaker 4Women don't want to break up either, but unfortunately we're pushed to that at one point.
Speaker 2That's just a woman to break.
Speaker 4I will probably say.
I would probably say that there isn't a specific final straw.
I think women check out emotionally far before the relationship, and men probably do the same thing, but I think it just for women.
It's like for me, I'm just like that, I'm holding on, I'm trying so hard, and then eventually you're just like damn, like I can't keep doing this.
Speaker 6Yeah.
Speaker 1One question, because we talked about this, Uh did you did y'all live together.
Speaker 6For a period of time but not like actually you know what I mean?
Speaker 5It was like, you know, she'd say it for months at a time or then you know, during a pandemic time.
Speaker 1What do you think about if you're like, say, during the pandemic, if you.
Speaker 2Slept on the couch or she slept Yeah, we talked about.
Speaker 1Is that what do you mean like if you just was like, are usually sleep in the bed together, but you just slept on the couch?
Speaker 6Is that a that's weird?
Speaker 4Yeah, yeah, yeah, this conversation now.
Speaker 6I think.
Speaker 5Also I'm huge on communication, Like I'm an over communidicator, right because I went there to be clarity and you know, I've learned.
Speaker 6My lesson from not communicating.
Speaker 5So if I am wanting to sleep on the couch, I will make sure the person knows, Hey, this isn't because I want to be far from you.
Speaker 6This isn't because you know, I'll make sure that I explain it properly to it.
Speaker 5It's like, Hey, I just want to have a night on the couch and watch me a little movie loud.
I know you're trying to sleep.
I'm just trying to maybe mine as well, you know what I mean.
I'm just trying to chill and relax and want to be able to be you know.
But I would never just do that.
Speaker 6Now.
Speaker 5I've been on the other end where people may just do stuff and I communicating like what the fuck is that?
Speaker 6Like why are you?
You couldn't tell me?
And what's fun?
Speaker 5I just want okay, But as your partner, I feel like I'm old that the communication, especially if we're always, if we're always, you know, sleeping together, I'm old communication, you know what?
Speaker 4I feel like the younger generation because how old are you?
Twenty nine?
Speaker 6Yeah?
Speaker 4I feel like the younger generation of men like g Herbo, he's your same age.
She came on here.
You guys are more vulnerable and like communicative and like very open.
I think older generations are not that way because it was more stigmatized.
Speaker 6And also they couldn't be.
They didn't have to say exactly.
And I want to make sure that.
Speaker 5A lot of older men understand that my dad is one of those people.
I know a lot of people that.
Speaker 4He me, I have to get a back old every time.
Speaker 6The time.
Speaker 5But I think that they just weren't get through that space, and a lot of people blame them and throw a lot of shape their way, And it's like, if you were in that place, there just wasn't room for that.
There were so many other things that we had to It's like, I can't be worried about this thing, even if my heart hurts a little bit.
Speaker 6I don't have room.
I got to carry this family, I got to carry this situation.
And so yeah, there's not a lot of space.
Speaker 5And I think now it's been a lot more accepted and we're seeing the benefits of how sharing your feelings can you know, improve your mental health and your peace and all these things.
So yeah, I agree, but I think it's because.
Speaker 6Of the time.
Speaker 1You're absolutely right all the time, because like me, as an older man, like you said, like us growing up, we had to like shoulder like being a tough guy.
Yeah, you can't show emotion, Yeah, you know, we got we looked upon as that rock.
Yeah, but the family and it was it was frowned upon if you showed a little emotion or.
Speaker 2You cry, man, man, and it's like man, you get punched in the chest.
Speaker 1You right, Like now it's just like more out less for it just and it's like it's like a it's like a freedom.
Speaker 2It's like like an emotional freedom.
Yeah.
Speaker 5My dad now is crying more than he ever has.
He's like, son, what's wrong with me?
I said, Dad, You've held him for fifty some years, which you expect, you know, so now everything that happens and he gets a little tear, he's like, he's like, oh no, I'd be like this.
Speaker 6I'm like, Dad, you spent your whole life not crying.
Speaker 5And I always I pushed him, Like one time I said, Dad, sit in your car, I'm gonna send you a song.
Speaker 6Lay the layer, seat back and listen to this song.
And he called back, He's like, why did you do that?
Speaker 3So I was like, because you needed to let that whatever.
Speaker 5I don't know what he was going with, but I just like because I was in the car that day and I listened to it and I was crying while I was driving.
I was like wow, And I said to my dad, was like, in case you need this, you know, and he did it.
Speaker 6And there's just a lot of healing in that, bro.
There's a lot of healing.
Speaker 5But I also think there's a balance where I do think some younger generations, like younger than me, they don't have enough ay get that carry that because you know, me being in doing the things I've done for as long as I can, I could have a trillion.
Speaker 6Times given up, I could have treated times now.
Speaker 5But because I was kind of raised with a little bit of both, you know, I feel like there was a time where it was like I don't care how you're feeling about that, you have to get this done.
There's no there's not like what can you It's like what you what must you do?
Speaker 2You know?
Speaker 5And I had to look at my life like that.
So I think it's a gentle balance.
But I do think now, I think there's a lot of people who I'm just like, you're crying over that, you're giving up over that, or you know, yeah, And I think there's definitely a change in the generation.
Speaker 2What makes you laugh, what makes you smile, makes.
Speaker 8That's a loaded question only because only because I am so like I love so many things, like I could laugh at a baby, you know, falling down and like jokingly and obviously not dying, or the baby hurting themselves but like you know, or a baby surprise themselves, or a dog doing so.
Speaker 5I have two dogs, and I love comedy, so maybe a stand up comedy show.
What makes me cry probably saying things seeing a baby, or like a dad and the son having a good talk.
Speaker 6You know what I mean.
I probably cried some.
I'm a I'm a cry baby.
I love it.
Speaker 4It's it's yeah, it feels good.
Speaker 6It feels good.
Speaker 4Okay, and what was the other one?
Cry?
Speaker 2Last laugh and comedy laugh?
Speaker 4Smile, Oh, smile, smile.
Speaker 1If you're just sitting there on the couch and you just start thinking of this, you just like being a dad.
Speaker 2Damn.
Speaker 4Okay, and you are not a dad yet?
Speaker 6Correct?
Okay?
Speaker 5But I want I want kids, Okay, I love that.
Speaker 6That's one of my main goals in life is just to be a good dad.
Speaker 4So, speaking of being a dad, you have a song on your EP called kept It So is that about a woman having an abortion?
Speaker 6Yes?
Okay, so through that, Yeah, I have.
It wasn't easy.
Speaker 4You know a lot of people neglect the man's feelings.
Abortion happens.
Was it a mutual decision?
Guys both did.
Speaker 5Yeah, it's funny you said that that what you just said was like the first sentence of the second verse was a grown up decision that we both had.
But yeah, exactly, it was the thing that we both had to make, and like, looking back on a nine, I think we did the right thing.
Speaker 3That's also in the song, but it's true.
Speaker 5It's like, but I think the whole song it was off of my experience, but also a friend of mine who had said something like to me when we were like talking, and he was like, sometimes it makes you feel like you wish you just I was like, wait what, I was like, yeah, right, because you can still see him even if it's like they may not be with you, but they're around.
And it's like, maybe that's selfish, maybe that's whatever, but these are just the honest feelings that go through someone's head.
And it's like everything that someone thinks isn't what they do and isn't who they are.
Speaker 6But I think going through that thought process is important.
Speaker 5That's why I put all of these songs on this album because they're all different ideas or thoughts.
Speaker 6Of me I've had.
Speaker 5I may not have acted on all these things, but I had to go through all of these to get to Boom.
Speaker 6You know what I'm saying Where I'm at now.
Speaker 5But if I neglected those thoughts and allow myself to feel those things, I would be here but uncomfortably.
Speaker 6You feel me, so like you get that.
Speaker 4Yeah, I feel like breakups to me are sometimes harder than death because the person is still there, you know, it's very very I hate it.
Speaker 6I think I feel slightly differently.
I don't know.
I feel like death is it's like.
Speaker 4They're going forever.
Speaker 6And I'm not saying you know what I mean, but I get what you mean.
Maybe in a relationship stance.
Speaker 4Yeah, I get both, Like I've been through both and I know they're both really hard.
But with the breakup, it's like, you know this person is still there, you're just not with them.
It just hurts.
It's I hate breakups, like I'd rather go through anything else.
Speaker 1Has your ex text texted you since this song has heard?
Speaker 4He has it?
I'm definitely reaching out, like, Wow, you writing all.
Speaker 3This my story?
Speaker 7Right?
Speaker 6You know there's so this is for everybody, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5This is I know a lot of people who have been through this situation, and I haven't heard it come from a perspective.
And I felt a certain way about it, and I wanted to write about it, you know.
Speaker 6But yeah, it was a difficult thing.
Speaker 5I called my pastor, you know, I had to pray over me and her and you know, trying to figure out what to do.
And you know, even after it was done, I remember being in the car looking out the window and like trying not to break down because I didn't want this person to break down.
But I'm like, damn, you know what I mean, understanding you know, the depth of it all, and hey man, never an easy thing to navigate.
Speaker 6But but I'm definitely.
Speaker 5Glad music is there for me because I can always I lean into it.
Speaker 6Whenever I go through stuff in life, I just lean in.
I lean in.
Speaker 2Yeah, Well, I love more creating music or acting.
Speaker 6I'd say music only because it's mine.
Speaker 5It's it's so it's so mean that it's gonna be the most it's gonna be the closest thing to me.
If people a million years from now, I wanted to know who I was.
You would listen to my music.
Now, when I'm acting, I'm taking somebody else and trying to make them, you know, believable as me.
Right, I'm taking someone else's words, I'm taking another character, diving into that.
And when I'm writing, it's the words are mine, the stories are mine, and even the harmony is the.
Speaker 6Way I cut myself.
I engineer myself.
Speaker 5So it's like all of it is me, even in the you know, the quickness of how I work.
Speaker 6Like, yeah, that.
Speaker 2Makes sense because I know you have a passion for both.
Speaker 6Yeah, yeah, absolutely, they both have saved me.
Speaker 5Yeah, you know, I say this story every time, so I may sound like a broken record, but like there have been times where I go to set and maybe like you know, Litsten, I didn't read the script the day before whatever, and I show up, but the day before I went through a breakup and I get to set and the scenes about me breaking up somebody, you know, like, and I had said the words that I'm saying in the script the day before, not knowing I had this to do.
So like they both have just showed up kind of like spiritually in my life and have been like, hey, this is for you, This is to help you, This is to you know process.
Speaker 2Have you ever lost yourself in a role?
Speaker 1Like and what I mean by that, like you just find yourself becoming that person.
Speaker 5I'd say Burning Sands was probably the closest I felt to like a little bit out of myself.
Speaker 6I just yeah, I played a guy in.
Speaker 5A fraternity and I just really was trying to deprive myself of sleep and just go through, you know, some of those things that were happening, and I was committing to that, you know, and I just noticed it even when I came back from filming that people.
Speaker 6That I knew they were like, yo, you're a little different.
Look even look a little different, you know.
Speaker 5And it's not like I've changed drastically, but you know, going through that process, I definitely grew as an actor as a man.
But also I did experience that kind of like whoa, this is a different, different body.
Speaker 1Do you have to see somebody?
Do you have to talk to?
Like, uh, what is a psychia?
Speaker 6A therapist or a psychologist.
I do go to therapy.
I love therapy.
I think everyone should do it.
I think it's very positive therapy.
But it wasn't to that extreme.
You know, I wasn't like, you know, getting out of here.
Speaker 2It wasn't.
Speaker 6But but guess what I do.
Speaker 5I don't want to wish that on myself, but I do want to get into that space of a role that I feel that way.
Speaker 6You know, like I really want to go.
Speaker 5I always want to push myself whenever I'm doing so where that's music or acting, I'm like, what's the next thing, what's the next level?
How can I go harder?
How can I be better?
And I think actors like Joaquin Phoenix, actors like Leonardo like you know, Daniel day Lewis, these guys switch, Tearampayn, they switch.
Speaker 6They turn to me and I want that.
I want to watch a movie and be like that.
Speaker 4Ain't TREVV even Lady Gaga does that.
I feel like it's method acting, right, just becoming a whole different person.
Denzel like, there's a.
Speaker 1Lot, but you gotta understand some of the characters.
He said, they've been in dark places.
Yea, they went into some dark sure, the three actors, he said, I've played some dark characters.
Speaker 5They're coldo, you know, and it's like they sacrifice, you know, sometimes sometimes you do.
I think it's important to pray of yourself whatever you do, you know what I mean, cover yourself.
But some people don't, you know what I mean, and go dive into a space and be like, hey, what's kind of running this?
Speaker 2You know, ship you.
Speaker 4Gotta But you know, Lady Gaga when she played in House of Gucci said that she like lost herself.
She didn't know who the fuck she was.
That movie was so good and she was it had dark things and she said she thought she would that person.
She lived that person every day.
You know, like, that's crazy.
Speaker 5Jim Carrey did that for that one comedian I forget his name, forgive me, but Jim Carrey played a comedian and something and there's a whole documentary about that on Netflix, which is pretty interesting.
Speaker 6I love Jim Carrey in general.
I think he's yeah, he's.
Speaker 3Intuitive, dude.
Speaker 6But the documentary was dope.
Speaker 4So top five actors, what would you say?
Speaker 5Look, I always have this because I have my top ten actors in here.
I watched this thing every day and I'm always like, okay, top ten.
Speaker 4Hold, we talk about this all the time.
Speaker 5Okay, Okay, top five is hard, okay, But I'm trying and break this down I'm trying to break this down and only five, only giving me five of all time favorite actors of all time.
Okay, Denzel, Yes, Okay, Denzel, Daniel day Lewis, Oh wow, Colin Farrell, Oh wow?
Speaker 6Okay, how many is that?
Speaker 2Three?
Speaker 4Three?
Speaker 7Oh?
Speaker 2Ships?
Speaker 7Good?
Speaker 6Colin Farrell.
I'm gonna give Sean pinn up in there.
Speaker 5Okay, Sean, and I'm want to split the last one between Leonardo and Schilte Buff.
Speaker 4Wow, Shila Buff.
He's up there for me, He's up there for me.
Speaker 6He's top five.
Really Okay, I might have said six to cheat a little bit.
I got I got six in there.
You know who is?
Speaker 5Yes, you do Transformers, Transformer movies and every I mean, he's he's a piece bro, he's and he's somebody.
So he's one of my heroes that I got to work closely with, you know, in life when you're like, hey man, this person right, and I got.
Speaker 6To work with him.
Speaker 5We the movie didn't end up coming out, we didn't filming it, but we rehearsed for it a bit and he was one of the most inspiring.
That was one of those inspiring encounters I've had as an actor because I admire him so much, but I didn't know his process, and to see how extensive his process is and how seriously he takes it and gets into it, I'm like, oh, I had a whole new level of respect.
But I loved him since, you know, even Stevens Poles.
But then you got lawless his performance and lawless honey Boy, like Peanut Butter Falcon.
This guy's I mean, he's a monster and all the transformers.
Speaker 4Also, my top five is Denzel Yep, Leonardo brad Pitt because I love Fight Club, Classic, Viola Davis, and Damn, I can't remember my last one, you go, I have to think about.
Speaker 2It, all right.
Speaker 1I guess the consensus amongst us is yeah, yeah, all right.
Speaker 2So I got Denzel.
I also got Johnny Depp.
Speaker 3Oh, good one.
Speaker 6That's a good one.
Speaker 4I know he has one that's a couple of movies that he's blow.
Speaker 6Factory.
Speaker 2Definitely.
I got Leonardo's in there.
Speaker 6That's another.
Speaker 2I have to say Eddie Murphy Man.
Speaker 1Hy up there like he plays because he plays so many different roles, like the lover boy he played, like the comedian he played.
Speaker 6The cop.
Speaker 5I think comedians deserve a category and having an Oscar because I think comedy is actually to me a little bit more difficult than drama acting.
Yeah, you know what I'm saying, Will Ferrells.
And when you said top ten, he's in my top ten.
Speaker 2Okay.
Speaker 1Well, and then for my fifth one, I'm gonna go with Nicole Kidman cold cool.
Speaker 4You had Octavia Spencer on her his last time.
Speaker 6He'd just be switching it.
Speaker 4Yeah, heching hair the hair one I do.
Okay, Yeah, those are good.
I can't think of my last one at all, So I don't know.
I want to give it to like someone black, maybe Jamie fox Rage Jamie Foxes.
Yeah that was that was I mean, yeah.
Speaker 2Most talented in Hollywood in Hollywood.
Speaker 1Wow, that's because of singing and acting and performing on stage and hosting it.
Like he has no weaknesses.
Yeah, like Jamie has no weakness.
Speaker 6Yeah, he's definitely one of you know, one of the few that can do it all.
Speaker 1He can do any wrong and do it well.
Yeah you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4So okay, So that no, No, I love I love that, But no, I know that acting is not easy.
Yeah, and you've been acting for a long time since you were.
Speaker 6Young, right, since I was seven years old.
Speaker 4Wow, Wow, I acted too as I'm not successful at it, but I was.
Speaker 6Definitely because you keep going.
Speaker 4Going, I was in commercials and everything place I can't see.
I think being a singer and an actor is just your triple threat, double threat, whatever you call it.
So is it true that you and Zindia were in a relationship?
Speaker 6Uh?
Speaker 4I observed?
Okay, good friends never been together.
Okay, so the rumors were putting them to rest.
Yeah yeah, yeah, okay, you're not.
It doesn't seem confident, but I'm gonna go with it.
Okay.
So I know that you talked about like you know you've been afraid of being alone.
Yeah, so what would you say the craziest thing you've done to avoid being alone?
Speaker 6What I think?
Speaker 7Uh?
Speaker 2With you?
Speaker 5Yeah, I think I think someone, I think someone.
I think maybe trying to stay in the situation.
Speaker 6Maybe that might be probably right, like you're just because yeah, nobody wants to redo it.
Everybody.
Speaker 5You know, time is a and you only learn how valuable time is the older you get.
Right when you're young, you kind of don't get it.
But it's like who whoa whoa whoa whoa?
I only got how much time?
I just lost my granddaddy.
Speaker 6I just like, you know what I mean, Now I gotta start, let's figure it out.
You know, I can't really play no more.
Speaker 5So yeah, I definitely think that's the craziest thing I've done, is maybe just try and try and stay in something and knowing maybe something wasn't right for me or you know, not can even go like friends too, hanging out with friends because you just don't want to be alone, but maybe they aren't the best influencers for you.
Speaker 6That's been a thing of mine as well.
Speaker 4That's true.
So yeah, that's real.
I think I learned at an older age now that I'm an older woman, that being alone, actually staying in a relationship that's not for you, is making it.
You're going to more say, be alone than not because it's inevitable that it's going to end.
So now you're just getting older.
Time is getting you know, time keeps going.
You're staying in a relationship, You're stay in a relationship.
You're afraid to be alone, but the longer you stay, the more likely.
Speaker 6Right right there, you will be alone because you ain't going to look for someone else.
Speaker 4Reship actually for you.
I don't regret any of my relationships.
I regret staying longer than I should have because it would have brought me to where I'm supposed to be quicker.
Speaker 5So how I feel about that is I don't want to regret any part because maybe in that you staying longer than you should have taught.
Speaker 3You a lesson than you You know what I mean.
Speaker 4It's hard.
Speaker 5It's like you can never if you feel like that, you may never be able to actually have an opinion because it's all relative.
But I know what you were saying, not just saying in general.
It's like, Yo, you where you are is because of the things that you've been through.
Speaker 6It can't change anything.
It may be a little different.
Speaker 4So a few questions, Yes, please, Paul is going viral per usual.
And he said that or in order to know if your woman loves you or not, you should cheat on her.
That's how y'all know she loves you?
Speaker 6What are you?
Speaker 7Yes?
Speaker 4He said, it's supply that if your girl loves you or not, you should cheat on her.
I would like to know what.
Speaker 1You're uh before it gets taken out a com Yes, I don't believe that a man should intentionally find that out like and I said it in the conversation talking about the men who said I found out unintentionally, you know, like, damn, she, I guess she really loved me because we didn't have been through something.
Speaker 3I know what you're saying.
Speaker 6You know, I know what you're saying.
I know what you're saying.
Speaker 3So here, no, I get it.
Speaker 2I get it.
Speaker 6So here's what I want to say.
Speaker 5Right in response to that, you're taking something that matters a lot.
Speaker 6Take out the cheating.
Speaker 5It's some that matters a lot to the partner right from you, right she feels.
Speaker 6A certain way.
It's a man cheating.
Speaker 5I think whatever the level of intensity that is, if this person can love you through that for him, like whether it's cheating, whether it's something like let's say he said this really bothers me, Please never do this.
Speaker 6Let's not say it's cheating.
Speaker 5Let's say it's I don't know, drove the car and rectata or maybe I had a dui and.
Speaker 6This stuff is literally I would leave you if you did.
Speaker 5This because this matters this much to me, and this shows me a sign of mistrust or whatever.
And that person does that and he can love you through that, you know, I think it should go both ways.
Speaker 6I think it's a hard thing.
Speaker 4But what I'm trying to say is agree with him.
Speaker 2I'm not agreeing with him.
Speaker 5I just think if you really love somebody, there is a way through and that goes both ways.
Speaker 6I agree that goes both ways.
Speaker 5And I think that there's just a lot of TV, there's a lot of movies, there's a lot of stories we hear that kind of tell us how the path should go between men and women, and I think it should go however.
It works out in your own life and you get to create your own reality with that.
You feel me, go ahead, But that's pretty much it.
And I'm just saying like, because there are other things and for a man that may mean that much, that may matter that much, and we're like, I love you, it's good, you know what I'm saying, And that doesn't I'm not saying like he's saying, don't go out and do it just so you can say that, and I no.
Speaker 6One should do it, right.
Speaker 4Yeah, I get what you're saying.
Speaker 5But you know what I mean, I think there's a way through, and a lot of people feel like you do this, you don't love.
Speaker 6Me, And sometimes people aren't perfect or aren't fully grown when you.
Speaker 5Meet them, and and and it could be reverse in another area of life, you know what I mean, Like maybe in this area you aren't as.
Speaker 6You know what I mean.
I don't know get you.
Speaker 1You've been a child star in the line like your whole life, so you were You're meeting people you know, maybe not so based on like the start on.
I mean, of course, handsome guy, you could you know, attract them, you could get girls to come your way.
So at what point did you say like she ain't she loves me for me?
Speaker 2Like, like what what happened?
Speaker 6Hey?
Speaker 2Man, I say this.
Speaker 5I'm gonna say this without saying this fool, because I'm trying to hear the question.
Speaker 2I'm trying to answer this properly.
How do you know?
Speaker 6I think you know I'm going to.
Speaker 2Speak on.
Speaker 3I'm trying to speak.
I want to say this.
I want to say, like.
Speaker 5You can think something like I can have an idea, and then that could be totally flipped on its head, right, And so I think I feel like I've been in situations where I'm like, no, she would it's not that, and find out when we break up, Oh, it was that.
I was just another one of that, you know, and that's kind of the vibe, you know, you know what I'm feeling, and I'm like, whoa.
Speaker 3I'm like, I'm like, whoa.
Speaker 5I thought that, you know, and you can hear it from your brother, you can't from your mama, you can't from you daddy.
Speaker 6I'm like, you guys are wrong.
You guys have no idea list.
Speaker 5Me, She's mine, okay, And we understand each other all this stuff.
And then you know, life goes on and you start seeing patterns of people and you're like, oh, whoa, and and and almost I was more mad at me because I'm hard on myself in every aspect of my life, you know, as martial arts is, acting and sing.
Speaker 6I'm trying to be great, and I'm like, how could you let this?
You know?
And I was pissing myself for I'm like, Trevor, it's okay.
You know, you're not a mind reader.
Speaker 5You're not You're not a But that was a hard pill to swallow because I felt like I had a good gauge on that, you know, I felt like I could tell the difference.
And for me, a lot of time when I first started, you know, if I was dating, if I was singing or whatever.
I'm not a gift giver.
That's that's the first thing I did to ensure.
Speaker 6That you were here because you want to be a round, you need it, and also I don't want them for you.
Speaker 5Hey, we're doing to do stuff together and feel like if we spend time together to be like that.
Speaker 6But this gift giving stuff, I've never been this guy.
Speaker 3I've been asked.
Speaker 5You know, I can get me back absolutely not sorry, that's not how I get down.
And they're be like, WHOA, Well, I'm it's not like that.
It's just you know, it's what is one building it on that?
Speaker 3You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5We can't build it on that because guess what if that stuff stops coming and you leave, you know, that's a bar.
If that stuff stop coming, you leave.
And I've seen it happen.
I've seen it happen people with some people dry and then the minute that they're at their lowest or the minute that you know, they show a human side because they're supposed to be superhumans.
Speaker 6And you can understand this, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5Being it, I got to be carry everything try you know, because of the position that we've been putting in life.
Speaker 6It's difficult.
It's very difficult.
There's only about.
Speaker 1To carry There's only one way to find out if a woman or a man truly loves you.
Speaker 2You have to go through.
Speaker 1Something, yeah, honestly, like and it doesn't have to be like the cheating things or whatever, but like, I don't know, if it's like.
Speaker 2You're dealing with a disease, like.
Speaker 1Yeah, lose a leg or you in a hospital, I don't I'm not even saying it has to even be that deep, but there has to be like a bump in the road to where you kind of like took a step back to real life, like damn, yeah, yeah, you know.
Speaker 6I also say it's an eye thing too.
Speaker 2For me.
Speaker 5I've noticed, you know, in life, the way people look at me, you know, especially people that are close to me.
Speaker 6And I've noticed the difference.
Speaker 5Right, Like maybe I thought something was like hey, I love you, but really was like I want to be you.
Speaker 6Right, I've seen that before, and I'm like thinking.
Speaker 5Oh, like Pruson loves me, but it's like no, they either want to be you or what you got, you know what I mean.
I've kind of maybe felt that and then when someone does love you.
Speaker 6You can see that.
I've seen, like the way someone that looks at me.
I can be like, oh, you know, I don't know how to explain that.
And I'm telling you I've only gotten that, like when in the last few years I'm like, oh, the way she looking at me.
I have never been looked at like oh you you want to help you?
And you know what I mean.
Speaker 5It's just constantly I care about this creature, this thing I want to be, you know what I mean.
Speaker 6And I can see that without her having to say it.
Speaker 4And do you think that, like, for instance, like someone having like a being in your position specifically too?
I feel like love can also be determined by the type of woman that you're with, and like does she want to help you be better?
Does she have your best interest in mind?
Speaker 1Yeah?
Speaker 4Is she trying to make you grow?
And is she trying to do it even if it's not beneficial to her?
You know what I'm saying.
Like, there's ways in which, even with me and my relationships, where I can be like, look, I think you should do this, even if I know, like that doesn't really make me feel comfortable, Yeah, but I know that it.
Speaker 6Will be that's better.
That's called maturity, and that's called strengths.
A lot of people don't have that.
Speaker 5Yeah, that's beautiful, that's that you think, like that is actually beautiful.
A lot of people are so in their own life, which we all should, right, we should care about what we're doing.
But I'm very big picture in it, and it's kind of like f me over in relationships because I'm like, how are we tripping and talking about this?
Like we're on a plan in that Like, I just think big picture, We're on a plane in the middle of space.
There's things that I'm trying to do within the world, trying to shift.
I'm trying to put love and life into it.
And you know, so how are we arguing about like the way that the thing is, like you know what I'm saying like stuff like that.
But sometimes I can come off maybe and considering her insensitive in that.
But it's just because I'm thinking, you know, big picture, large skill.
Speaker 4Yeah that makes sense, that makes sense.
Speaker 1Well listen, no, I don't know.
I just want to go back before we move forward again, you know, before we move forward again.
Just know he got an album coming out.
Speaker 6Thanks man, appreciate it.
Speaker 2I love you goodbye.
Speaker 6That's the last thing she said to me on the phone.
Speaker 2That's why the album's called that.
Speaker 4That was the last thing on the phone.
Speaker 6I'll give you.
Speaker 3I'll give you a little story.
Speaker 6So that's why I kind of wore this shirt.
Man and Steel is one of the focus tracks on the album.
Speaker 5But I wrote it because when I go through any type of emotional or depressing time in life, I'm watching superhero movies.
Speaker 6I'm a nerd.
Speaker 5That's we were just talking about video games, you know, you know how I get down, I'm Predator, I'm Superman, all this stuff.
Speaker 6Right, So I'll watch you Batman versus Superman.
And she called me.
Speaker 5For us to have like this last kind of conversation, and basically on the phone, I was like, look, you know, I don't want this, but it's something you want.
Speaker 6I understand.
Speaker 5And she kind of went through a whole spell, and kind of what I took from it was, Hey, you can't love me and be this.
Speaker 6Guy that you feel like you have to be for the world.
You can't do both right, and I don't want to stop you from doing it, so I think it's just best.
And I was like, all right, if that's you one.
Then she's all right, I love you goodbye.
Boom right, go back to watching the movie.
Speaker 5The very next scene, Superman walks in the bathroom, Lois Lane's in the bathtub.
Superman is like, what's wrong and Lois Lane's like, She's like it's impossible, and he's like for what She's like.
Speaker 6For you to love me and still be you?
Speaker 5I said, Oh, ran downstairs told my mom.
I was like, look, man, you need to know that this should this just happened.
You need to make sure that you know this.
I didn't just make this shit up.
This really just happened to me.
Speaker 2And she was like what.
Speaker 6And I went downstairs made a song called man and Still.
Speaker 5But basically it's just representing that's like I'm supposed to be a man and still.
So it's hard to say how I feel.
I don't want to cry because it makes it real the world all they see is a man is still the one that they can't kill.
Speaker 6But they don't know that I die to be your man still, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2Wow.
Speaker 5So it's like that's the song, but that's how it came along, and all of the records kind of have that kind of weight to him.
Speaker 1You know, all right, I just figured out another thing to really find out if a girl or God loves you nor all right, here's another thing, and it's now you have to cheat.
Uh, you have to be willing to give up something that you probably really enjoyed or love.
Speaker 2Compromise for that person.
Speaker 6Yeah, well is it most people doing that?
Because no, people don't know.
Speaker 4Well, committing to a relationship.
Man like to have sex with women all.
Speaker 1The time, say like she likes to go to the club all the time, or she was a dancer.
Speaker 2She won't get me that.
Speaker 5What about even time when she wakes up she's but because you know, we wake up, maybe I don't sleep in as much because I want to wake up.
Speaker 6And blah blah blah, vice versa.
Speaker 1I think, Yeah, change in habits something that's that's another thing to show, like if she's willing or he's willing to like change that.
And you know, it's kind of like a either have it or have it that you like.
Speaker 2You've been doing your whole life.
Willing to change that.
Speaker 5It takes for that, right, it's a lot of strength and it's a lot of like you're saying, love, right, I'm altering this thing maybe this habit, this part of my life for you.
And I feel like sometimes maybe I'm speaking because I'm biaseding my man.
Speaker 6I feel like for it, man, it is like overlook sometimes.
Speaker 1Like weed every day, and he want to be with this girl.
He quit smoking weed for her.
Speaker 2That's love.
Speaker 6Yeah, for sure, I know what you mean.
Speaker 1Said, no for real, just something that is a habit and you quit it for that person.
Speaker 5That proves, okay, just to be a devil's advocate, because now we're just talking, all right, could be could that be something to gain something else?
If someone isn't a race to gain something and the thing they're trying to gain is more important than this thing they have to.
Speaker 6Give up, they easily give that up.
Right.
Speaker 5So let's say, let's say smoking weed may be her thing, right, but she'll easily stop that because you want to live where she's living at.
Speaker 6She want to sit where she's sitting at.
She want and it doesn't.
Speaker 5Even have to be that she loves you, She might love that life more.
Speaker 4That's very.
Speaker 6Like.
Speaker 2No, it's true, but like habits is hard to break.
Speaker 1Because then now if they okay, so say they give it up in front of you, they'll sneaking doing and then they if you catch them doing it, that's cheap.
Speaker 6I agree, I do agree.
Speaker 2You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6I do agree with that.
Honestly, I do agree with that.
Speaker 4What have you given up in a relationship?
Speaker 6Oh man?
Speaker 4Do you feel the difference between compromise?
Do you feel like there's a difference between compromising sacrifice?
Speaker 5I think men always have to do a little bit more, honestly, that's my honest opinion.
Speaker 6Men always have to do a little bit more compromising, a little bit more.
And it's not a lot, it's not like, but it's a little bit more.
Speaker 5We got to swallow the pill a little bit more than you want to explain.
Speaker 6I mean, he's just more I want to hear.
Speaker 2Why okay, because we got more ego to Yes.
Speaker 6Yes, I agreed, one hundred percent.
I think the strength is is.
Speaker 5In that I feel like, you know, I've been able to be very apologetic and accountable, and I feel like a lot of times, the majority of the times my partner has not been you know, even over something SWNG right, Like I've done something small and I've been like, look, I want to apologize to you because I kind of a bad day, and I can do that, right.
It's easy for me because I want you to know that you're not the issue.
I'm going through something and I allowed that to hang on to you, and I apologize.
I've been in situations where that can linger for days, four or five days, and now I'm sorry, effing feeling weird because you're having an issue, but you don't know how to communicate that issue to me.
Speaker 6And so I got to swallow more prider than you gotta.
I gotta.
And it's because you don't want to maybe, or I don't know.
Speaker 5I'm speaking about a multitude of situations, but the consensus I've gotten is I've always had to just kind of sorry, all right, Yeah, let's go because I'm driving the shit.
We gotta go where I have to go because I'm making the money.
Right, we have to go to this thing.
We have to go to this event.
I can't go to this event, and you have a problem.
So I need to clear the problem, make sure that we're straight before we go in here, because I can't have any issues in here, right.
I don't think that you know.
On the other foot, it's the same.
I haven't seen it.
I haven't seen it.
Speaker 4Do you think that women have a tough time being accountable and apologizing period?
Speaker 6Yes, yeah, I think everyone does.
Speaker 5I'm gonna say for me, I think I'm actually a lot better than you know, some people that I know in terms of just apologizing and owning stuff up and you know, just trying to get through it, because I've been through so much and I actually have seen the benefits of it, And I feel like a lot of people who don't do it so they don't.
Speaker 6See the benefits of it.
But once you do, your like, oh, if I just do this, we're good.
Speaker 4Yeah.
Speaker 5But if I sit up here and I can't speak what's on my mind and I'm mad for the next week, I'm ruining.
Speaker 6My quality of life.
I'm wasting my time.
Speaker 5Also, I'm wasting my time because I love you, you love me.
We want the same stuff.
Why would we spend these four days four hours being mad?
Speaker 6And I'm not saying every issue can be fixed like that.
Oh, you just want me to blah blah.
It's like no.
But if I'm here what you're saying, understanding it, I'm on your side.
Speaker 5I'm not against you.
I want to hear what you have to say.
I want you to say what you have to say?
Speaker 6Now, what are we gonna do?
Speaker 9Right?
Speaker 5What are we gonna do now?
Like, let's not so that's a big thing for me when it comes to partners.
I can't do the child just you know, that's very hard for me, very hard for me to like deal because I'm like, I already got my braind's gonna explode the amount of stuff that are that's in it all the time.
Speaker 6So it's like I needs you to and I've you know, it's it's not like a it's not a horrible thing I have to do with, but it's an annoying it It can be sometimes annoying.
Speaker 5But it's you know, you take the crookeds with the straights in life.
Again, that goes back to the stuff I don't like.
But I've yet to be in a situation where it doesn't exist, which I'm fine with, but it is something that can be agitating sometimes.
Speaker 4So you mentioned that you have to go to sleep with the TV on because your mind is always.
Speaker 3What the heck these questions?
That's a very true.
You have a reject crazy.
Speaker 4So would you compromise that in a relationship if you were with a girl that's something you can't copromize.
Speaker 6I'm not sleeping on dark so the girls.
Speaker 4To compromise the girls making She's like, I'm this man, I hate the.
Speaker 6Exactly kills most partners that I've had hated.
Speaker 5Yeah, but I'm like, listen, I'm not gonna be able to sleep like it, because I said, regardless of I'm like, the darkness is louder to me than the TV.
Speaker 6Like my TV's blasting, like I got I got.
Speaker 5The JB, I got the projector that mugg is blaring in my face, and that the only way I can go to sleep.
But if it's quadm and it's not like I think something is getting me, but my like the things I'm thinking about it.
So I'm like, right, but if if my brain can catch on to the movie, I slowly slip off and.
Speaker 2I'm in sleep.
Damn, that's crazy.
That's only likely.
Speaker 5And also I'm also studying.
Whenever I'm watching movies or TV, I'm studying every second, and it's hard for people you know that I'm with to be like, you know, you just watched this movie yesterday.
I was like, I know, I'm watching it in two times today because I want to see what I missed.
I want to see why that role was said.
You know what I mean, that's how I be and that is a sacrifice.
Speaker 1So look, I would be watching the movie and say like, like if I'm with a partner and I turn over and they see me turnover not watching the movie and they like, turn the TV out, I'm like, I'm listening to it.
Speaker 5Yeah, for real, I'll wake up if something changing, even you know, sometimes it's just the battery or whatever.
Speaker 6They'll just go to the same.
Speaker 2Screen always with me, you're not watching it.
Speaker 6But you know what's funny, My mom told me that.
Speaker 5My dad used to have VHSS and he would always watch, you know, the same movies, and she said he would wake up out of his sleep if it popped out to pop it back and hit play and go back.
Speaker 4And that is a man thing I feel because I pitch black in silence.
Speaker 3That's scar Yeah.
Speaker 4And so if I'm like, that's a compromise, you don't hear nothing like, no, I hear this usefulness of just my life.
Speaker 3Oh my gosh, I'll I don't know, I'll be here.
Speaker 2I can't.
Speaker 4I have to be like in the dark.
So that would be definitely so do you feel like because I always feel like there's a difference between compromise and sacrifice.
Like compromises I'll sleep with you in the bed with the TV on, even though I hate that.
Yeah, sacrifices changing the core of who I really am.
I don't believe that you should sacrifice in a relationship because that leads to resent me.
Speaker 5Can you sacrifice a part of you that isn't good for you?
Speaker 6But maybe that is a part of it, right, because that's where I've experienced.
Speaker 5Right, It's like, Okay, this is my normal, this is a part of who I think I am, but it also doesn't produce the best side of me.
Right, and this person maybe you know.
And I do feel like it's a sacrifice.
I do feel like I'm I'm cutting something or something that is very whatever to me.
But it's like this thing is morphing me into something that's so much more than that.
Speaker 6Right.
Speaker 5But I guess that is a I guess a compromising if it doesn't feel too much like that.
But I do feel like there's something I sacrifice, And the more I sacrifight that I realized it wasn't really a sacrifice in comparison, to what I was gaining in the relationship in comparison to who I was becoming, how the person was Pulling this person out of me didn't feel like a sacrifice anymore.
But it took me some time to do it.
For a while, I'm like, well, look how I've been living.
I'm walking around my shoulders.
I feel like I'm getting bigger in the gym, like you know, But because I made certain sacrifices for this person, and again, I want to go back to the love I think the right person even if they know, they'll they'll tell you like, hey, that's not you know, that's not you.
They won't let you live any lower than yourself.
Speaker 4Oh, they won't let you live any lower than yourself.
Speaker 6Yeah, they won't let you.
They won't let you.
Speaker 5Now, I've been a relationship where I thought the person loved me and would influence the lowest version of me.
You know, I've had that, And that's because now I'm tangible you I'm supposed to be.
Speaker 6God brought me here to be.
Speaker 5Sometimes it can't be tangible, right, And when people see that, it's like, how do I make it?
Speaker 6How do I make them more?
You know, come back down here?
Speaker 2You know.
Speaker 6And that's how it felt.
Speaker 5And that's for friends too.
Got a bunch of friends, you know that I felt that energy from.
It's like, yo, let's make him human again because right now, you know.
Speaker 2He's two.
Speaker 6Ship's popping off, shit's feeling good.
Speaker 4Amen, Come on, That's what I've been in a lot of my relationships.
Dim your life.
You can be in relationship with people who are in competition with you.
Speaker 6Yeah, that's horrible.
Speaker 3Why are we here?
Speaker 4Like seriously, like it makes you or they want to, like you said, they want to keep you here because when you're here, you don't understand your power and who you are.
And if you understood your power and who you are, you you being with right, and that's what you have to stay down.
I'm going to influence all the worst parts of you, so you don't know who you are well said, period, you know.
And then when I do that, I'm going to continue coming back to you because you're feeding that.
Speaker 5And oh man, I've seen friends do that, even just not to me.
Like I know someone and her best friend was on that like yeah, in the minute that she started, it's like who are you?
Speaker 2Like what?
Speaker 6And it was getting mad at for being a better version of herself.
Speaker 4They always want to take I've been in a relationship where someone literally told me I have to bring you back to reality because people pump you up too much and they make you feel.
Speaker 5That's horrible, and that should be your number one support system.
That should be your number one, that should be your source.
You should be telling him to chill out, baby, He should be out in public.
Speaker 6You should be like, baby, don't say that.
He's like my girlfriend, you know what I mean, That's how it should be.
I feel like, yeah, she's incredibly even seen the best part.
Speaker 4You know, all of my past relationships have been exactly that.
Demming never felt good.
Speaker 5And that's also just because they don't feel like you said worthy to be next to you or you know what I mean.
It's like And unfortunately, I think it is hard for a woman in that in that space, you know, because especially when you're successful woman, you're a beautiful wman.
Speaker 6You had a man Mike feel little intimidated.
That's the only way you feel like he has that.
Speaker 2Yeah, you know, I can see.
Speaker 4Yeah, but I think too, it's been also my fault because I've attracted I was at a certain frequency where I wasn't feeling myself, you know, so I attracted at a certain level.
Always put it back on me, Like what I was attracting was how I felt internally about who I was.
Speaker 2You know, used to be.
Speaker 1No strong voice, very appendated, just strong, very just.
Speaker 4I tried to come at me.
I was strong.
I'm not.
Speaker 8Strong.
Speaker 5Don't kissed me strong spoken, strong voice.
Speaker 4It was like he's just trying to say I used to.
I gained a lot of weight.
He doesn't probably know, but I was too eighty.
Every episode he has to reference when I was not even.
Speaker 2Saying you you were a big strong by no strong.
Speaker 5Energy energy example, I used to be so.
Speaker 6Now still that was just a slipper.
And you make.
Speaker 1Mistakes, Yeah, well you you you because like you used to come off like a little more masculine.
Now you showing your femininity side of yourself, you know, which is great.
You got a good balance of it.
But you could be a strong, intimidating voice like like and that's real.
Speaker 6It's a compliment, I.
Speaker 4Think, Yeah, I don't think it is, but I'm there's nothing like I'm going to continue to do powerful boy like think about like certain like like like Michelle Obama has a.
Speaker 2Very strong, strong like you, like, damn you.
Speaker 4I will say this and I'm just gonna make it very quick.
I think that and women in a career space have to tap into a lot of their masculine side to be noticed, agreeable, to succeed.
Like I've been very successful in the podcast space, and it's because of my voice.
It's because I demand people's attention when I talk.
And I feel like in my real life I'm very feminine in my relationships, I'm very.
Speaker 6Can I just say you're very feminine, You're not not feminine.
Let's just make sure we say that, because.
Speaker 4It sounds like you're one always comes for me.
Speaker 3No one watches this and says she's not feminine.
Speaker 6No, we we.
Speaker 4Know they do.
They come from me, those people, those people.
Speaker 6But you're the one said I don't.
Speaker 2Say he did.
Speaker 3He just said strong.
Speaker 2Strong voice is blowing me.
Speaker 4Stop doing this.
Speaker 7This is blowing me this right, Yeah, it's like what this is strong?
Speaker 4This is blowing Stop this, Like I'm not giving body builder.
Speaker 2With something like that.
Speaker 4Stop doing that.
You're blowing me.
Speaker 2Very strong is hilarious.
Speaker 4And the masculine title, because I just feel like women we get that when we're successful strong.
Speaker 6They're being sassy in feeling now when they say how they feel.
I can't stand this.
Speaker 5To say, dude, stuff is ridiculous for videos and god, like, hey, I don't rather you know sassy.
Speaker 6Yeah.
Speaker 5I was out one time and somebody and I was like, hey, excuse me, like it was a fan approach, and I was just maybe like in the way you just you know, you kind.
Speaker 6Of just came.
Speaker 5I was like, I'm just trying to share with you how I feel.
That's cool, you know what I'm saying.
But it's like that's what I got when I had an issue or something.
Speaker 4I'm like, I don't like that something like that either.
And they say that about man a lot, like even with men smoking hookah, Like any man smoking hookah is sassy.
Any man doing drinking lemon drop is sassy, Like he can't like a little lemon in the drink.
Speaker 3You know, some taste good.
Speaker 5That's why I say what girls get all the goods for drinks and if I'm drinking.
Speaker 4Yeah, like yeah, they everything is sassy apocalypse now, Like, man, I hate it.
Speaker 6I hate it.
Speaker 4I don't go for that all right.
Speaker 1I want to give back to the music let's do it.
You got music dropping in another week.
Yeah, I love you Goodbye.
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That's the full title.
I love you can buy the Greatest break About of All Time.
And I also wanted to tell you to just kind of like, I don't know if you guys saw the suit I was wearing and all this stuff, So I said, when you get broken up with it feels like you show up to the altar by yourself.
So I wanted like an eighteen hundred groomsman because a lot of you know, amazing poets and those olden times.
I'm really inspired by those people.
And you'll never see a video of those people, but you'll hear their poems forever.
Right, it lasts, And I feel like that's how I felt about this project, and I, yeah, I had that design, so Pooj's my stylence.
And then Lionel is an incredible designer.
He's done souff for Ciza and a bunch of other people.
He helped design the suit, and yeah, that was like my main thing for this.
Everybody was like Trevor, she keeps asking me who, I said, I need a suit made.
We had it made.
I was like, it's all wrong, start over right.
Then I finally got it the way I wanted it.
But it's a huge part of that.
And I also feel like, you know, someone that looked like me back in that time couldn't afford garments like that, So I'm like kind of flexing for them too, and that's kind of the birthplace of the whole visual and you know, and it's like, you know, funeral.
Speaker 1Staying on the music side, I want to talk about today's music.
Yeah, like what do you think and how do you think that today's music is affecting our love and our relationship?
Speaker 6Like this is so great.
I will say this.
Speaker 5I'll say a lot of people's issues with music, those same people are the reasons the issues exist.
Speaker 2Right.
Speaker 5So it's like I'll see a lot of women maybe have an opinion about, you know, how a woman is being treated or whatever, but they're the same ones, you know, singing the songs that are you know, exactly, and it's just hard to gauge right for men too.
Men will be singing songs like this, and like, how do you expect someone tell you seriously, you just said you have five baby and.
Speaker 6You're trying to do this and you're trying to do that, you know.
So I do think it's hard.
Speaker 5And I will say the one genre of music where they talk about family, wife and husband is country music.
And I do think this is all agenda based.
I think this is all if they're black, let's make sure that we keep the shit going right.
We want to keep only one mom in the household.
We want the dad to be you know, and that is that is perpetuated by the music that's perpetuated by certain movies and white people.
A lot of white people listen to country music and pop music, and it's very family oriented.
It's very husband why I can't wait to get home to.
Speaker 6My kids type records.
Speaker 5So I think that's something that's missing and something that I'm trying to create.
Speaker 6I think this is just.
Speaker 5The beginning of, like, you know, my my story that I have to tell.
I have a lot more albums that I'm sitting on and I'm going to release, but I want to get to that point right to where the biggest artists can also be the healthiest lifestyles.
Speaker 6A lot of people want to be.
Speaker 5Quote unquote successful, which is money, cars, big house, career, but no one's happy, right, so I think there should be that has to be in there, and I would like to bring that, you know, to the forefront.
I'd like to do more of that, and that only comes with honesty, and that's what I think.
This album is just me being completely honest about where I was at and you know what I was going through.
Speaker 6But I do believe that.
Speaker 4I do believe.
I know you said voice to man is one of your right and they complimented, Yeah, that.
Speaker 6Was a deep, deep moment for me.
I was going through a lot already that just mentally.
Speaker 5And then you know, I walked in there and I seen when I've seen them, and I'm like, first of all, I'm I'm the type of person like, although I've been in this for a long time, I'm a fan first, Like even me sitting across from Paul Press, I'm like, now, you know, we met a few times, but still I'm kind of like, oh shit, you know what I mean, this is happening, So that'll never go away from me.
I'm always a fan and then turned artist.
So when I saw them, I was like getting teary.
I was like almost crying, and they were like like everybody thinks I'm playing I'm.
Speaker 6Sure that tune.
Speaker 5I'm like, Paul, You're probably like this, dude's a lot, but it's because I really feel this.
I'm like, I can't believe this is happening, right.
So I told him that, and I was like, guys, like, this is this is my dream come true.
I mean like I've listened to either reason I know how to sing, like I listened to your records, like you're making us proud.
Speaker 6We see everything you've been doing.
Man, keep going, keep killing making us proud.
You're doing this justice right.
And to hear that from them, to.
Speaker 5You know, I heard co Sign was doing a podcast and he had said, I feel like Trevor Jackson suffers from being too good right, quote unquote.
And I feel like I have been overlooked as an artist because maybe I look good or because maybe I'm a successful actor.
So it's hard for people to give me my flowers when it comes to music.
But I do this shit like I'm writing the shit I'm recording myself, and I do it at a very high level.
Speaker 6And to hear them say it, I didn't need nobody else to say it.
Boys to men what it was like, Okay, I'm straight, you know what I'm.
Speaker 4Saying, Genuine was putting fire signs on your genuine.
Speaker 6That's another thing.
That's amazing.
That's amazing.
Speaker 4Yeah, these people, Yeah.
Speaker 6It's an honor.
It's an honor man.
Speaker 5And yeah, I was just saying, like I still trip out to be in spaces with these people because I'm a student when I want to do something.
Just like I'm sure how he's studying game film or anything like that.
I am studying these music videos.
I'm studying the boys, I'm rewinding it.
I'm pressed playing for hours at eleven years old, you know what I mean.
At eight years old, I was just always trying to and then I'm meeting these people Like I ran into a Mario on the other day and I'm like, bro, you don't understand.
When I first moved to La, I was eleven years old.
I walked by you in the bell here's mall my ass off.
I ran down to the food court.
I begged them for a pen and paper.
I said, on minds over here, ran back, you signed my ship and I got in my house right now.
It's in my house right now.
But it's like I'm not and I feel like a lot of people lose that right, you get into it and you start becoming numb to the ship.
And it's like, yo, we are superheroes in a way and we have to remember that and carry that.
You know when people when people walk up, I remember.
Speaker 6Being a fan.
Speaker 5That's why I'm always like, Hey, how you doing, what's up?
Hey, I'm nice to meet you.
I'm never you know what I mean.
I'm always just because that could create the next Michael that could create the next you know, Kobe, that could create the next Paul that could create the next you know what I mean, Just by being like, hey, man, keep going all of that this right here, and that could take someone will imagine that when they go to sleep and the hardest day of their life, they would be like he said, keep going that, boys, and man, I'm gonna remember that.
I'm gonna go through more ship in life.
Speaker 6That's life.
I'm gonna go through our and I'm my question who I am?
Trevor?
You and I remember that moment a boy.
Speaker 1Told you that, bro, So you know what I mean, that's dope.
Speaker 4I love them because I had that moment.
You know, we're like, I'm out and someone like Kevin har Is like your don't keep.
Speaker 6Going like you know, you know who I am.
Speaker 4I mean, like just little stuff you think about things like that, you can't.
You have to stay humble and remain humble no matter who you meet or who you're So one last question, what do you feel like?
Because I know you spoke about country, but I do also feel like and Paul talks about that that R and B from back in the.
Speaker 9Day, boys to men jagged and you know, yeah, all of these people they were thinking about loving a wanting a woman, needing a woman, Like where do you feel like that transition?
Speaker 4What law?
Speaker 6Like?
Speaker 4What happened?
And then I noticed more women like Cardi b Is.
You know, city girls and broke boys don't deserve no nothing like this whole happiness.
Speaker 6Let's just be real.
Speaker 5Even if you saying those sentences out loud, it's like you can't possibly believe that that will bring you happiness.
Speaker 6Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5Love going music, Yeah, and I'm here, I'm here bringing back Okay, okay.
Even in the breakup albums, you hear the love right, it's not yeah I'm dead.
Speaker 6That's how I felt.
Speaker 5And also after the breakup, I tore my achilles I was down bro Then I had stuff.
Speaker 6Two weeks after she broke up with me.
I tore my achilles.
Speaker 5Then I had stomach issues while my kids.
I was in the hospital.
Then my back is shoes.
I was going through everything in my life, right, Me and God was talking, right, God, what's happening?
Speaker 6Why is this?
Speaker 5And I have to go film Grownish in a week and I have to go be on tour.
So I went on tour with the dang boot.
I was shooting Grownish with the boot on going back?
Speaker 2What's what side left?
Speaker 9All?
Speaker 2Right?
Speaker 6Right?
Speaker 2Sorry?
Okay?
Because you know that correlates.
Speaker 1You know, if you see an energy person, like if you have injuries to one side of your body, that has something to do with like kind of relationships I had to go through, you should see an energy person.
Speaker 4I didn't know that that has something with relationships because.
Speaker 6It was literally two weeks.
Speaker 1After two weeks, it might have like just one side of your body going through stuff.
Speaker 5Yeah, it was a da after christ I tore myn achilles.
After Christmas.
I only get to see my family once a year.
Speaker 6I was there.
Speaker 2It's a thing.
Speaker 5Yeah, tour it but wrote this whole album in the cast.
I had to keep raising my foot up because all the blood was rushing, so I have to wait between verses writing down put my foot back up, you know.
But the result is this project, and I think you can really hear it.
Speaker 6I hope you guys get a.
Speaker 5Chance to top to the bottom and then the album release will be next week.
Speaker 6Hopefully guys can come.
Speaker 5That'd be sick, but just to hear it in its order, because I the reason why I did this breakup, broke up the project like that is because I did on my last one, and it helps, you know.
Fans want more stuff, but I make albums and I make them to go in order.
I'll sit there for days at a time, be like no this only no, no tray that back up, you know, so it can go.
Speaker 6Through all of the stuff the way it's supposed to be done.
Speaker 4I love how you did, I love you EP and then goodbye.
That's really dope.
Absolutely yeah, it's good.
It's really good.
It's vulnerable, it's open, and I feel like we need so much more of that.
Speaker 2We need nor love back, we need.
Speaker 4I got you, I got you man, We appreciate that.
So where you leave, I'm going to have you answer one of these questions with one word only.
Okay, one word why do men cheat?
Speaker 6One word freedom?
Speaker 5Mmm?
Speaker 4Okay, I would say ego.
You said ego too?
Is that what you would say?
Speaker 2I forgot we did this before.
I forgot what I said.
Speaker 4What about one word why women cheat?
Speaker 6Revenge?
Speaker 4M Oh, that's a good one.
I could see that.
One word what scares you most in love?
Speaker 5Mmmm?
Speaker 4That's good.
One word what makes you lose feelings?
Speaker 6Mmm?
Speaker 2For me?
Disrespect?
Yeah.
Speaker 6I was going to say.
This isn't one word, but it's like lack of consideration.
Speaker 4Yeah, so kind of the same thing.
Yeah, I can get that.
Now.
If you had to give one word to describe I love you, goodbye album, what would it be?
I'd just say your ex's name.
If you want, you for sure get that text rebirth?
Ooh, I like that.
If God could send you a text message right now, what would it say?
Speaker 6Stay the course, Stay the course, man, stay the course that.
Speaker 5I also don't want to know too much, right And I found this out throughout my life, and I saw this said one time and it stuck with me for a minute.
It was like, if God told you everything you had to go through to get to what you want in life.
You probably change what you want.
Speaker 4Oh I've heard that.
That's good.
Speaker 5I heard that, and I said, oh my, and this is I heard this after the tear and stuff.
So I'm like, if God when I was young, was like, you're gonna break your leg, You're gonna go through one of the worst heartbreaks, maybe go to three through three heartbreaks, right, then this is gonna happen.
This person's gonna lie, your best friend is gonna do this, and then you're you know, then you're gonna lose this person and your grandma's gonna You might be like, hey, dude, I'll just go to seven eleven.
I can be the dude at the front, like you know what I mean.
I can be in traffic.
Speaker 6Guy, I don't care, Like you know, you might change your dream.
Speaker 5But God, God knows, and he does it in his own time, and I'm super thankful for it.
So I just say stay the course because I don't regret anything I've done.
Sure, I maybe wish whatever, but I'm thankful for where I'm at.
I'm thankful for who I am, and I know I got a lot more to go.
But the only way to lose is to stop or to give up and I'm not that type of I'm not cut like that.
Speaker 2That's real must have it album coming out.
Speaker 4Did you know that I'm good at this?
We did this with Kevin Gates.
Speaker 2Did she know that?
Speaker 6And she waited till the answer.
She get all the information, then use it.
Speaker 4In that second, you could ask my friends, I guess everything.
Speaker 6I need you to guess my brothers when we're done here, because.
Speaker 4Well, I okay, Well, thank you Trevor.
Please you great.
We're so grateful to have you.
We're so grateful to have you.
Speaker 2Amazing.
Speaker 4I hope my handshake wasn't too No.
Speaker 3It was strong.
Speaker 6It was a little too strong for me.
Speaker 4Oh you guys, Trevor has the best breakup album ever coming out, I Love You Goodbye.
If you're going through a breakup, if you're feeling down about yourself, or if you're even feeling good about yourself, if you want to get back to the love and music, make sure you guys check out because I Love You EP Goodbye EP And in about a week he will be dropping November twenty first, November twenty one, Make sure you guys tune in.
It looks fire.
We'll put all the information below so you guys can click everything, follow Trevor and all that.
Speaker 6Yay, thank you, I appreciate you, of.
Speaker 4Course, thank you Trevor.
Speaker 2So much good.
Speaker 3I'm so freaking out, can do it now.
Speaker 2The interview is over.
Speaker 6I'm only taking.
Speaker 1Thanks for join us after Dark a.
Speaker 8P.
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Speaker 4Do you think that men or women are more toxic