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Marrying The “Freak”, Getting Put In The Dog House, & Telling Him Your Bedroom List | Truth After Dark

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Speaker 1

The media said that Paul Pierce got arrested from suspicion of duy.

Do you have something that you want to say about that.

Speaker 2

Man?

Speaker 1

Karen Stephans superhead.

Speaker 2

She went on, that's crazy to have that type of nickname.

Speaker 1

Right, Mary the hole, meaning like man should marry whores?

Speaker 2

Come on, man, is she married?

Speaker 1

No?

Speaker 2

There we go, why she's not married?

Then a woman has to figure out how long the dog house has to last?

Yeah, we hate like when we're in the dog house and then y'all, you know, we get it cracking that night.

Okay, it just be one of the knights.

Yeah yeah, And so he thinks he's back good yeah yeah yeah, and then like you know, day or two later he tried to get it back cracking and you off.

Speaker 1

Yeah yeah yeah yeah.

Speaker 2

What was we just like just cool, like we're not cool?

Now.

Speaker 1

Cam Newton, let me make sure I do not misquote him.

He said that he needs the list of his girls partners that she's left with, period the names.

Speaker 2

It's probably crazy.

Speaker 1

It's not.

Speaker 2

I'm gonna send you.

I'm gonna fact you these because I don't want you.

Speaker 1

To say no, actually, my list is not crazy.

No, it's not.

Speaker 2

This is taken over the game.

All right, everybody, Welcome to Truth after Dark.

Speaker 1

Do you think that men or women are more toxic?

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Speaker 2

To day and your boy Truth in the Building.

Speaker 1

In the building.

So today we're gonna start with a few current events.

The first most pressing one is that the media said that Paul Pierce got arrested from suspicion of a duy.

Do you have something that you want to say about that.

Speaker 2

Man friving stuck in traffic cars wasn't moving right.

I'm like, dang, I'm like past my bedtime right, like I'm at nine o'clock bedtime for.

Speaker 1

Show'm nine o'clock.

Speaker 2

It was like ten thirty.

I'm sitting in there like man, kind of lean back, like it ain't gonna never end.

Like there was none moving.

I never even seen non moving.

At least you're gonna inch, you know.

I just closed my eyes and then it was man, I can't put myself in that situation though.

You know when you close your eyes.

Speaker 1

And not riding, well, you weren't driving.

Speaker 2

I put it in park.

Actually, I put it in park.

You were sitting there so long.

Speaker 1

It was like forty five minutes.

You was sitting there.

Speaker 2

Theah, yeah, I know, and it was just like damn.

I didn't think it was ever gonna end.

I thought somebody had died on the freeway.

I thought it was a bad situation.

So I didn't know how long he was gonna be there.

But yeah, stuff happened, and then you know, I don't have my day in court.

Speaker 1

Yeah, for sure, I get it.

I would fall asleep to forty five minutes sitting somewhere at past my bedtime.

I'm sure knocking the fuck out.

I'm gonna tell you that right now.

That's crazy.

I'm sorry that happened to you, wild but you know, the truth will prevail, period.

The name speaks for herself, the motherfucking truth.

But I'm glad you're good and you're in good spirits and everything gonna be all right, period.

All right.

Well, moving on from that, we're gonna get into some other hot topics.

So Krine Stephan's superhead.

She went on right, So she she went on actually one of my friends podcasts, and she has a clip that's going viral.

And she said Mary the hoe, meaning like men should marry horrores because they really want to be with horrors, but instead they feel like they are supposed to be with like the good girl, the virgin, the girl who's like composed and put together, but then they cheat on her with the whore.

So she's like, just marry the horror and stop playing around.

Speaker 2

I can like, hoores don't get cheated on either.

Come on, now, is she married?

Speaker 1

No?

Speaker 2

There we go, why she's not married in because she's just trying to promote that.

You know what, I remember her from the early two thousands, you know, writing a book or something, or.

Speaker 1

You wrote like a tell all of all the men she had sex with or whatever.

Speaker 2

To get back relevant and everything.

Man, nobody messing with her.

Speaker 1

Man, come on and little Wayne?

And you know what's so crazy that she says this.

She was in a relationship, whether I don't know if she was married or not, but she said that no matter what relationship that she was in, married or not, if Little Wayne calls, she's leaving and she's gonna go fucking suck him.

Girl who wants that?

I'm so confused.

That's why men don't want to marry a hole because once a whole, always a whole, baby, and you're gonna turn around and go fucking suck the next person.

And that's crazy.

Speaker 2

Yeah, she uh, she's trying to spark some interest, but that ain't in you know, she need to she.

Speaker 1

Cooked well, she was saying that what a hole will give you is better than what like a house I will get.

Speaker 2

I will tell you this about like women who are considered holes and men that like them, men like that for just so long, you know what I'm saying.

But you know, like when you look at the longevity of somebody, you want somebody that it's more than that.

Like, come on now, like just because sex is cool and you're doing all these things that a man like that don't mean that's gonna last forever.

Like when they get down to like sitting around and really bringing some substance to the table and really bringing like some maturity, bringing like some value to the table outside of sex.

What is that?

Right?

You know what I'm saying.

And that's what men really look for a long term, and that's always gonna outway long run than the sex.

And tell you because the set is gonna wear out eventually, you know, and he's gonna be looking at other girls sexually, you know.

But then all these other things that you bring that got like some substance to it.

Speaker 1

Play so easily.

Speaker 2

Yeah, it's gonna last a little, It's gonna last way longer.

It's like, come on, man like.

Speaker 1

Because sex is everywhere, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2

And she could get it and you can see it.

You could.

Speaker 1

You can pay for it, you can see it.

Speaker 2

You can get it the easiest thing.

But like a real quality and a woman, like great qualities in a woman, it's hard to come by, you know, someone that you look at and and like, man, I can just see her really teaching kids this, or I can see her, you know, really expanding on what I got, or me expanding on what she got.

Speaker 1

You know.

Speaker 2

It's bigger than that.

And that's why we were brainwashing society to look at females sexually and be like that's the one and and and too many women are sexualized and man, go for that instead of really looking at the substance of a woman in the long run and being with that long term.

Speaker 1

That makes sense, And it's funny you say that because a part of what she was saying was like, well, this girl can bring this and do this, but is she gonna wake up and twist it and turn it?

And then every single day I'm corny, I'm doing this and it's like damn, Like and what if your partners not feeling that?

Are you gonna need that to where you got to go get it from someone else?

Like if everything is driven off of sex, it's not going to have real longevity in a relationship.

And that's just the truth.

Speaker 2

Yeah, it's I mean, I get what she's trying to say to relationships.

And I said this some episodes ago.

I feel like, do be based on sex?

And in a lot of ways, because if I'm with you and you find out I have sex with another person, it could be over.

Speaker 1

Yeah.

Speaker 2

It's like, damn, you didn't look at everything else I brought to the table, The intangibles, the substance like that just go out the window because of.

Speaker 1

A mishap, because of a mistake.

Speaker 2

Well because of just like sex is just like it's in our mind.

It's like how do I even explain or work?

You know, it's it's a beautiful thing when done with the person that you really feeling, you know what I'm saying, but if it's just like casually done and just because you just a horny bastard and like she being a whole, it's just like, damn, why did I risk all other things for that?

But we're sometimes as men and women weak individuals because of sex and that it's like a drug, you know what I'm saying.

It's like people just want that quick fix.

It's the high, real quick because it feels good at the moment, but then something then like a lot of times you see people regret it.

Speaker 1

You feel miserable after you get got and oh, yeah, you know what I'm saying.

But I will say this, and this is real to me.

I feel like any relationship that has lasted long that I admire, like my sister and her husband and other relationships they've told me, like, you have to be with someone that chooses you all the time and isn't willing to give up on you.

Like I don't want to be in a relationship where it's like, oh, you do one a mistake, Okay, like bye, I'm done, Like I can't live Like.

Speaker 2

But you don't know that until you make.

Speaker 1

Yeah, until you make a mistake.

And that's why making mistakes and doing things in relationships is what either brings you closer or it makes you drift apart, because that's how you know if someone really loves you.

It's like you said one time, it's love.

Sometimes it's not about what you can give, it's about what you can take.

Speaker 2

Or love is what you can deal with.

Yeah, like that's not cool.

Speaker 1

Yeah, exactly how can I deal with this?

And it's not cool?

But I love this person and they're worth it to me.

And also you have to have two people willing to do the work because we're gonna make mistakes, But are you willing to do the work, recognize where you was wrong and try to make this right.

Like I'm fucking with someone as long as I know, Like you want to make this work as bad as I do.

All right, Like that's half the battle, they says.

Half of the battle is two people being like, no, we're gonna work this out.

We're gonna do this shit, I don't care what goes on.

Speaker 2

Like this is the thing about man.

We you know, we might mess up, or the girl might mess up and she gonna drop to her knees apologize all that.

Man might do that, but a man don't know how to like go overboard sometimes with that apology.

Yeah, yo, And we always figure like and you know what our problem is, thinking we can buy our girl back.

Speaker 1

True, that's right, man, do that a.

Speaker 2

Lot fuck up and be like all right, let me get her a new this or shot that or trip or car or new house.

Like like, bro, it takes more than that.

And that's like showing you where the basis of your relationship is.

If you do cheat on your wife and then you get her these gifts and now she's happy, Like, come.

Speaker 1

On, that's not real.

Speaker 2

That's not real substance.

It's not built on like concrete.

You know, that's not built on like.

Speaker 1

Actually trying to make it work like someone that actually cares and has real invested.

Speaker 2

Yeah, like really really going through it, Like damn, you might have to accept she might not give you none for like a year.

Speaker 1

That's crazy, man, What you mean a year of no sex?

Then your man's gonna cheat again?

How he can't have sex for a whole year?

Speaker 2

Man, It's like that woman is turned off by a man.

Yeah like that, So like what after a week, y'all?

Speaker 1

But I'm gonna be cracking after like a few weeks, then it's.

Speaker 2

Like relationship back then.

Yeah, if it's a few weeks, then he feels like he could do it again.

Speaker 1

Right, you need to let a man sit in there.

Speaker 2

Make like the doghouse gotta be a real dog house.

I swear like, if you're willing to sit in that dog house, and I don't know if the number is a year, but that's a real dog house.

But then it's just like if he could get back somehow to where it.

Speaker 1

Was before, it gets stronger after that.

Though, in my opinion, if you guys, well, because I know because I've been in that situation, I feel like if you work towards repair, it's just like break repair, connection repair.

Liked Smoke was saying, you're gonna go through that, and I've always been taught you gotta make sure the person is worth it, because no matter who you're with, you're gonna go through shit.

Everyone makes mistakes, everyone is not perfect, And if you plan on being with someone for the long haul, trust and believe some shit's gonna happen, and you gotta be willing to do the work and repair it with each other.

That's where it matters, not just buy it, because that puts a band aid on it.

That don't fix the root of the problem.

Speaker 2

See, this is the problem in the relationship because like when y'all going through it, Yeah, a woman has to figure out how long the dog house has to last?

Yeah, Like seriously, there's a fine line on the dog house.

Speaker 1

Yeah, because if it's too long, then you you.

Speaker 2

But say he doing everything he can to get back in good graces and everything, and he's still in the dog house and it's one, two, three months, and he's still trying to be the man for you, and he still want to work it out, and you still want to work it out.

Also, yeah, you know, like how long is that dog house?

Because like THEMN like not being able to like like if a man coming home in a dog house, he's not getting no food, he's not getting no sex.

He like, damn a doghouse.

And I understand that, but they get to a certain point to be like damn, like, man, is we trying to work this out or work toward working it out then, because that ain't working toward working it out doing shit like that.

Like if we're gonna work toward working it out, we gotta have some some tough discussions because being in a dog house to where I ain't getting fed and I ain't getting no sex, and we ain't chilling and chilling cozy enough watching movies and we ain't like and you lean into the side and the bed and you doing the like, man, come on that.

My man can only like he can understand his mistakes.

But then this has got to get to the point like, all right, are we gonna work through this?

Speaker 1

Exactly?

Speaker 2

Like, let's work on working through this, because that's not working on working through this.

And I understand you mad, and I understand that you feel a certain type of way, but like, what are we doing there?

Speaker 1

I agree because it are we gonna end it?

Because if we're gonna end it, we're gonna end it.

But if you want to work it out, you can't continue.

I always tell this, if you want to really be he was someone and you want to work it out, it's only so long you can put a motherfucker through that, because then you're gonna start creating a divide in your relationship and you guys are gonna drift apart, not together.

If I'm like, look, I know he cheated, and I know the goal is I do want to be with him, and I'm gonna get back with him, but I'm gonna let him grovel for a little bit and feel it.

But you have to put it.

Like you said, it's a thin line on how long you can let somebody go in that space, because as soon as a man starts to feel too neglected while he's giving his whole soul or pouring his whole heart, then at some point it's like, well, all right, what do you want me to do?

Then?

Because you not even budgeting, and this is not us working towards it together.

We have to be both willing to do it.

If you go to therapy, they're gonna say, are y'all both willing to work it out and do the work.

If not, don't waste my time.

It's not going to work.

Then if one of you is not willing.

So that's the truth.

Speaker 2

Yeah, that's a tough situation.

Speaker 1

It's a tough situation.

Speaker 2

There's no real timeline on that.

Yeah, you know what I'm saying.

It ain't like a week or a couple of days or two months or something like that.

It just got to be a lot of tough conversations.

Speaker 1

It gotta be conversations and a lot of tough conversations.

Maturity too, though it takes a lot of maturity to actually look at things from a logical perspective.

Women we operate from emotion a lot, and men are more logical.

So when a woman is fueled by her emotions, we can't see straight a lot of the time, and we can over sensationalize things and make it way bigger than what it is.

And it's like, Okay, slow down, let's look at it logically and let's weigh out everything this man is doing XX.

This one mistake happened, What are the pros, what are the cons?

Let's work through this.

If you don't want to work through it, let it go.

But you can't decide to work through it and then also bring someone down every day, like.

Speaker 2

On a women's side, Like you know, what's the length on a woman's side because we always talk about the men.

We never talk about when the women mess up, like like what is the women doing?

How are they trying to get back in good graces?

Or the men like we gonna forgive you if we want to work it out, We forgive quicker.

Speaker 1

Than for sure.

Men are very quick to.

Speaker 2

Because y'all, we're gonna either be done yeah, or we're gonna work through it and it's gonna be back to normal quicker than yeah.

Speaker 1

Yeah.

Then a woman gonna hard part it.

For I noticed that a man is just gonna be like either he loves you when he wants to be with you, or he doesn't.

If he doesn't want to be with you, there's no nothing you could do.

That's why I realized what a man.

If a man's done, he's done.

Speaker 2

If he he ain't gonna sit out here and mope, turn to like he ain't gonna be over here while you're over there, and.

Speaker 1

Yeah, he's gonna either be like yeah, he's gonna.

Speaker 2

Be like man, you know, we're gonna talk about it like man, we're gonna have a lot of conversations.

I'm gonna cush you out a couple of times.

Speaker 1

Can we cool?

Speaker 2

Yeah, we might be cool?

Speaker 1

Yeah, And then that's it, Like that's the difference between a man and a woman.

Though men are much more simple, women are gonna overthink, you overanalyze it.

One sad moment, one good moment, then they're back sad, then they're mass like it's yeah.

With a woman, it goes through so many emotions.

You don't know if she's coming or going as scary because you're like, damn, she fuck with me now today?

Is she gonna wake up and be like nigga, fuck you?

Like it goes through a lot.

With a man, he's very cut and dry.

I'm either gonna be with you or I'm not.

If I'm not, I'm gonna tell you, look, I can't do this.

I'm cool with a woman.

That's why for men, I think women have to take more accountability when they mess up and are willing to be like yo, because men will brush it under the rug and it will create resentment.

Though, But if a woman is willing to be like listen, I made this mistake because women.

A lot of men tell me women don't take accountability for shit at all, and they're not.

They're willing to flip it and twist it and make it still the man's fault.

But you have to be willing to be like listen, I made a mistake, and I'm willing to work on it.

Genuinely.

Speaker 2

This is what the man hate when he in the doghouse.

This is gonna tell you.

Speaker 1

Go ahead, we.

Speaker 2

Hate like when we're in the dog house.

And then y'all you know, we get it cracking that night, Okay, it just be one of the knights.

Yeah, yeah, And so he thinks he's back good yeah yeah yeah and then like you know, day or two later he tried to get it back cracking and you off, yeah yeah yeah dahn what was we just like it was just cool, cool, Like we're not cool now?

Speaker 1

Yeah, like there, come on, man, like come on that because a man's.

Speaker 2

Like, all right, we're getting back somewhere, we're getting back cool.

Now it's back.

Now you're like now now you're back emotional.

Speaker 1

And as a man when you're in that situation, do you feel like, like as a man dealing with women because I'm a woman and I you know, I'm trying to figure out like do you feel like when your woman is like that, you gravel more and you're like, I love you, I love you?

Do your for space?

Like what do you think?

As a man?

Speaker 2

You do?

Speaker 1

And then what's up?

Speaker 2

Man?

You know you like what's going on?

Like I thought it was cool?

Yeah, it's just too much.

It gets you emotional up and down.

Its yeah, damn, Like we had a good day.

Now it's a bad day.

It's like, damn, man, you know, I had a hard day.

Then dealing with you got to deal with with the world too.

It's like damn.

Then men get frustrated and that's what leads to like us doing stuff that like yeah read yeah, you.

Speaker 1

Know, so like because you feel like you don't even have your girl anyway, so you're like, damn, I you know, I just feel low.

I feel like I don't know what I got going on.

She not tapped in with me, she's checked out.

Like that's not a good feeling.

So I get that.

I get that.

So anyways, speaking of all of this, uh so, there's a bride who is going viral because she reacted to her fiance's affair by reading the text at the altar.

So this girl, when I had had to pay for the whole wedding, paid for it, and you know, the weddings is not cheap, and her wedding was nice, and as the altar, instead of saying her vows, he says his vowels, and she starts reading off the text.

Means in front of his whole family and her family and everyone about his affair.

Isn't that wild?

Like you have to be a vindictive right?

Speaker 2

Did they still get married?

No, oh they didn't get married or you waited till that day.

Speaker 1

That's what I'm trying to tell you.

You went through with a whole wedding, got your makeup, of dress, bridesmaid's families, everything, paid for everything.

You want to dral feel it you.

Yeah, And she went up there and she basically read all the texts.

She exposed all the shooting in front of anyone, because like.

Speaker 2

You made him look bad, right, but you.

Speaker 1

Did to me in my opinion, I think so.

Speaker 2

You publicly embarrassed yourself too.

Speaker 1

I agree, like what are you doing?

Speaker 2

Like that's the society and that's the generation we live in situated for it to be a whole public thing to like say, hey, I'm gonna put you on blast in front of everybody, making so like really he like, oh really, that's what you was on all right?

Speaker 1

I know he's sick though.

You gotta be sick.

Speaker 2

You got to be paid for the way and he's sick.

Speaker 1

And you're in front of your family and your friend.

Speaker 2

Because that's embarrassing.

Like this is the one day I thought this was gonna be the happiest day of my life, turned out to be one of the saddest.

Days of my life, Like why would you do that?

Speaker 1

That's a girl, that's but.

Speaker 2

Like that's also a blessing in disguise too.

It's like, damn, if I had to marry into this and this is what it was going to be, like I might have saved my life.

I might have saved some money and some headache, truthfully, So like if I'm here, I'm glad this happened today because if once I put the ring on as a man and marriage and I gotta do this, what.

Speaker 1

That means you trying to bring me save?

Speaker 2

Yeah, like thanks, I'm glad you did that.

Speaker 1

Like instead of behind closed doors, you can't community.

See, this is what I don't like.

I don't like a motherfucker that can't have communication.

You can't be with someone for all these years willing to get married and something happens and you don't have a conversation.

I don't like that.

Talk to your partner.

What happened?

What is it?

Speaker 2

Like?

Speaker 1

Have a price?

I don't like all that public sham in somebody making them feel so bad.

You're this you're discussing, Like I don't like that.

I'm not dealing with that.

I don't fuck with that.

Like generation I don't fuck with that, like, yeah, I know he.

Speaker 2

Took me to cheesecake, Like I'm that type of feel like.

Speaker 1

A yeah, you're embarrassing yourself though as a woman, be classic, like I don't want people in my business.

I don't want everybody my mom, my dad, my cousin, my niece, my nephew to see the text message you was sheting on me with, like have some koof about yourself.

And I feel like this generation over is over exposed.

We have no privacy, Like you are afraid to fuck with someone because they're gonna blast your business.

Like it's blowing me because it's like give us an opportunity to have something for ourselves.

If we're going through something in our personal relationship, this is not a place to put it out to the whole world to see.

This is not for social media.

This is the intimacy of our relationship.

Why is everyone need to know this?

Speaker 2

Like this is that error, like like we're an air of like social media.

We're in the era of like I want you to know what's going on live right now.

Speaker 1

Stream exposing yeah, exposing.

Speaker 2

My life, like this is the error to the people making a lot of money from exposing the Yeah.

Speaker 1

Yeah, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2

Yeah, Like I don't want to like deal with that type of pressure.

Speaker 1

Yea expose my life, yeah.

Speaker 2

Twenty four hours and then we watch that, So people want to do it.

Yeah, and they think that creates popularity, They think it generates money, they think it becomes fame.

Yeah, and people chase fame, money and popularity more than ever by exposing everything you do and letting everybody see it, because they saying, this is my true author, they self, and this is what you get to see on it every day, and this is who I am.

Like, Yeah, I'm like, come on, man, something either be kept right behind the scenes, and I'm always gonna have that.

I'm always gonna have that moving forward.

It's gonna be like something I can keep.

I can hold on to this.

Speaker 1

Yeah, you expose for you.

Speaker 2

This is for me my sanity because I'm keeping on sanity because that type of behavior will drive you crazy.

Speaker 1

Yeah.

And you have no privacy, And I feel like I value privacy where we live in a generation of people who do not, And I value my privacy.

I value keeping the things that go on between me and my personal relationships private.

I don't need that to be publicized everywhere.

And I realize that even now when it comes to everything, like women used to have to pay to see them like naked or something or see a titty.

Now I could literally open my Instagram and see titties like anything so exposed it leaves no mystery what happened to Like mystery used to be sexy, you know, Like now it's like I could just see everything.

Speaker 2

Everything gets driven by the dollar in a variety, you know, because like now like to be, everything is sexualized, everything is visualized, everything is exposed because you are able to monetize all all of that.

Yeah, and like instead of like me, you know, the only fans now and the watching the fight, instead of breaking it up like everything, they try to monetize it because now it's just like no, there's no just like where's the dignity in it?

You know what I'm saying, where's the like where's the compassion for like just self care and care for other people, or like it's just like dude, I don't like people will feel somebody getting their ass right.

Speaker 1

There before helping, before help, then.

Speaker 2

Like people will expose somebody instead of like getting to the real issue just before the notoriety of it for monetizing, and it's like then when everything is now monetized and you can make money off embarrassing and just exposing yourself.

Speaker 1

And other people and other people like people going to expose it to people.

Think about young in jail whoever was selling his his recordings of his phone, his intimate conversations, like whatever, whatever, whatever.

He was saying, Okay, I'm not defending it, but I'm just saying, like the fact that people can't have intimate conversations.

If they feel like they can make a dollar off of you, they're gonna sell that information.

It doesn't matter.

It's just like, damn, can someone just have a privacy for once.

Speaker 2

Like so glad I'm not a Wian in this generation.

Yeah, like and just doing stuff.

But like, come on, man, like.

Speaker 1

I'm good, Yeah, I'm.

Speaker 2

Good that I was able to keep some stuff to myself and have like this in my back pocket and I didn't have to show, you know, all the behind the scenes stuff, like come on, man, like, just it's.

Speaker 1

Just mystery is not there anymore.

And that's yeah.

So Cam Newton, let me make sure I do not misquote him.

He said that he the list of his girls partners that she's left with, period, the names, and he said he needs the names because he wants to know who got one up on him.

And he doesn't want to walk into the place with his girl and he's like, yeah, she' bad she did.

He wants some juice baby, blah lah.

He said that is the juice babe line and everything.

And he was like, I don't want to be in front of a man who I know, like you had that and now I'm key king with a man and you was with my girl.

And he was like, it's just about me having that transparency and knowing so I could move accordingly.

And then his girl came out and was just like, I'm so glad I gave him my whole list.

I feel relieved.

You know, she's tweeted that or put it somewhere.

So yeah, that was his thing.

And he was like, and there's a lot of people that are like, all right, cool, I could work with that.

And he said, and then if it's someone like that was my teammates, you know, like that was someone I see every day, Like I'm not, I'm not I might not be able to deal with that, he said.

But if it's someone cool, cool, you know.

But yeah he said I need that list.

Speaker 2

Yeah, I mean I get it, you know, And that's it's for me, it's a double less sword because it's like, damn, do I really want to know or do I Like?

I get it?

I get it, Like I completely get it, you know what I'm saying.

I was in a situation to where I was talking to this girl.

I was dating this girl, right and you know, we went out a couple of times and then uh it was like I remember, uh we had dinner if we sat down and she was like, yeah, my ex is woof the woop And I was just like what, like I currently kick it with him like from time to time, but his number, like we just kicked it, like like why wouldn't you say nothing at the beginning?

Yeah, like you know that, uh kick it with dude.

Yeah, Like so I get it, you know what I'm saying.

So Like for me, I was like I'm not talking to you no more.

You know, I'm good on that because I don't move like that.

If it's a dude I'm kicking it with and I know you hear ex, I'm not moving like yeah, facts you know.

So like I get where Cam is coming from with that, because those type of situations can come about.

And I'm not mad at that, you know, because like I've been in situations or with girls that I was committed to to where I asked, like who else you know?

And you could tell me the truth or you could lie whatever.

I'm an ass, you know what I'm saying.

But it's gonna show anyway eventually.

But like, nah ma, somebody I kick it with, like you should have the type of like you know, like you should be with somebody be like like you shouldn't even want to talk to me.

Speaker 1

If you know what I'm saying, that's on you.

Speaker 2

Are you talking to me like I'm not the get back dude.

Speaker 1

Yeah, you're trying to get that on some sid that's not gonna work.

And that's true.

I feel like the whole list or whatever the names are, to me, I'm like not against it, but I also feel like it's for me more of a thing of like respect, Like look, I'm not gonna have my man in front of someone's shaking hand bow up with someone that I know I used to mess with.

I'm gonna tell him, like, Yo, we had a situation going on.

I'm just letting you know, like that's more of the thing, Like I'll give a list if it's needed, but I think that the bigger thing is, like I'm not gonna let my man feel like he's out of control and like not respected or like someone feels like they got a one up.

I never want anyone to feel like they got a one up on my man because that's a reflection of me.

I'm a reflection of him, Like I don't want that feeling, and I don't want that for me, Like I don't want to be out with my man and this girl like yeah, girl, that's like I'm gonna feel crazy and if I'm key keying with you and I'm cool, like that makes me uncomfortable.

And I would never want my man to feel that same way.

Speaker 2

So he's just gonna tell him right out the gate, like I wuld yeah, it's probably crazy.

Speaker 1

It's not.

Speaker 2

I'm gonna send you.

I'm gonna fact you these because I don't want you.

Speaker 1

To say no, actually, my list is not crazy.

No, it's not, and I honestly haven't.

No.

My list is small, like I can count my list on my hands, Like I don't have a big list, and I know who I've slept with, and and for me, like I said, it's more of a respecting to where if I'm like, yeah, if my man is kicking with someone, Like first of all, if I have a man and I know I mess with his friend or someone he kicks it with, that's not my man.

I'm not We're not fucking around like to begin with, unless I just did not know, and once I find out, I'm telling you like, oh, look, this is the situation because I don't want someone else to say it like that's weird.

Speaker 2

This is the one thing I would love to ask can Like I would love to ask Kim if he gave her his list?

Was that required?

Speaker 1

I don't think that was required.

Speaker 2

Would that be a thing?

Speaker 1

I don't think that's a thing, Like.

Speaker 2

Like, you know, he's a pretty famous dude.

Yeah, you know, it's a possibility he been with some famous women.

Or it's a possibility he could have been with like some of the girls he's dated or been like in a situation.

Speaker 1

Like his girl friends.

Speaker 2

Yeah, one of her friends.

I wonder if he gave the list too, So I don't know, caim it go both ways too?

Did you give your list up or it's just required from her.

I'm just saying, like, damn, I ain't ever, I'm sure I wondered, like damn.

Speaker 1

I mean, I don't think that it was like me personally.

I'll be honest.

If I'm with a man, I don't want to know his list.

But what I want to know is like, don't have me looking to but I would about.

Speaker 2

A man don't even know That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1

Remember his name?

Speaker 2

Yeah, hold on, let me go through the phone.

Like what Like I used to like.

Speaker 1

A man don't know his list?

Man, And that's the difference.

And I think that for women, we're expected to have less partners, right, So like his girl, he has a girl, she's beautiful and they have kids together, whatever, And she came out she said, you give him list?

Speaker 2

You know.

Speaker 1

I'm sure she messed with some celebrities or whoever.

Maybe like, but I feel like with a man, you are not expected to do that because you we don't know who the hell y'all slept, because y'all don't know this.

Speaker 2

Celebrity men that beyond public that have had women come up to them like, hey, remember we hang out?

Speaker 1

Yeah, for sure, I've been out with a man that I'm with, and women have came up like hello, hello, like and as a woman, I know what that means.

That means, like you have sex.

Speaker 2

I don't mean hello, maybe you just know me or we talk.

Speaker 1

No no, no no no.

It's a certain energy because it's like a girl will be like because I'm a girl, so I don't do that type of stuff because I'm not a woman.

Speaker 2

Maybe you used to talk to them, talk or.

Speaker 1

Like you had sex with them and you just left them hind and dry, because I know that energy of what a woman brings like oh hello, yeah me, yeah, you like girl?

Speaker 2

Well, and it's embarrassed me trying to embarrass a guy.

Truthfully, girls to be out and like talk to this guy for like years and seeing what a girl and he probably curved her and might do that too, yeah like oh hey and then he looking at her get out of here.

Speaker 1

Yeah.

I feel like women do that and I've noticed that too, where it's like girl like and for me, I've never done that because that's an embarrassed women.

Hey, yeah they are.

And you know what I know noticed about women, like women are such haters sometimes like if someone hit me up and was like, hey, my man, was my man flirting with you?

And I would probably be like nah, because that's not my business.

I would either not reply or I would say no.

But I've noticed that women are haters, and sometimes women think that a man is flirting with them or someone's flirting with them and I'm just being friendly, like you doing too much?

Speaker 2

Now?

Speaker 1

You cocky enough to think that I even want you?

It is blowing me, like, and I think that women have an inflated ego sometimes and you think that somebody wants you when they don't, and y'all just I just can't like.

And I've been noticing that a lot.

So yeah, anyways, getting into this next thing.

So there, huh.

So there's a woman, right and she's in a relationship with a man, and it was her birthday he sent her and mind you, he posted the text messages on the inner She sent her two K for her birthday, like just for the day, like baby, yeah, that's cool.

Yeah, but they are together.

So she he sent her two K and was like, you know, happy birthday.

Yeah, they're in a relationship.

Speaker 2

Okay.

Speaker 1

So he sent her two K and she returned it and sent it back on because it's Apple Pay sent it back on the Apple Pay and said, first of all, we've been together way too long for you to think sending me two K for my birthday is cool.

I deserve way more than two K, and I know my worth, Like two thousand is not enough money.

If you're gonna send me money, it needs to be way more than that, Like I'm cool.

And she sent it back, so everyone is outraged.

You know, the man are like, bitch, like two K is cool, Like you're tripping da da da da da.

What are your thoughts on that?

Speaker 2

Thoughts on that is, if she did that, if everybody's reacting to that, he's given her her more than two K just on a regular day.

M hm, And today it's her birthday and you only gave her two K because I'm trying to tell you like, she wouldn't have did that if he has never given her two K before.

First of all, he's probably been on some like hey man, take this five K on a regular Yeah you know what I'm saying, take this ten racks.

But then it's my birthday.

Hold on, you didne gave me more on like a basic day, on a regular I'm trying to take She looking like, damn, I'm really getting a deuced piece like you gave me five just on some chill like oh, he goes.

Speaker 1

Oh you're going out of town like regular, yeah go five?

Speaker 2

Yeah, So like for her to do that, man, he gave her more on some like basic shit because ain't no girl if he ain't never gave her two K before, and he was like, oh you up to Annie, we go two thousand?

Speaker 1

Yeah, like damn.

I didn't know if it meant like I want you to make an actual effort and not give me money like I or she just was like mad because it seemed like she was just mad because it was only two K.

Speaker 2

Though, yeah, because he didne gave her more before I had on a basic day.

He probably gave her more on Valance.

Are right here go shopping five thousand?

Big?

Two K on your birthday?

Speaker 1

Is because she was like, I know my worth and this is for you for we has to be together this long and you only giving me two K.

Let me tell you.

I'll tell you exactly what she said too.

This is her exact message she said.

He said, happy early birthday baby, love you forever, wishing you many more.

I'm gonna be sleep at twelve, so telling you now elol and sent her two thousand.

She said, thanks, but I'm gonna send it back.

I just feel like we've been together way too long for me to only get two thousand dollars for my b day.

You spend that on food in a month.

I'm not being ungrateful.

I just know my worth.

Thank you though You've always been sweet, but it's Nigga's really out here trying to spend a bag on me.

I don't like her.

She don't like you really, Yeah, she don't really like you because you've.

Speaker 2

Worried about other guys spending more money on you, because when it's love, you're not even chripping off that that's cool.

I appreciate that.

Like maybe he's trying to test me, like because if like see females, y'all don't know y'all play checkers, not chess, and what I mean by that, Like he could have gave her five K on another day, ten K on another day, a basic day.

He gave her too k on her birthday if she had have been like, oh, I appreciate that.

Just everything you do for me is so sweet.

It's just amazing that I got you in my life.

He's like, damn, that's the answer I really wanted to hear.

He probably was testing her and he would have put through her more.

And that's why I be trying to like like like females like get so reactive and emotional off like like damn, you should be thankful he like for that.

Come on, damn.

Like I hate the fact that a man has to like do something for a woman and that sets the bar.

So if I do anything less than that, it's a disappointment, Like come on, man, it should be like, oh, I might have did this this time, but I'm gonna do this this time.

Like at least I'm doing like come on now I'm doing I'm putting her nails is done right, boo, damn them the stilettos is looking right them, heels, lips is popping, like damn, you're eating good right, you're eating good right, like damn, man, And I just hate that, like man, so that that goes into the unto the like category and things that we speak of of you lad with money, my boy, So like now when the money and keep going up, she gonna go to motherfuckers that's offering her ship.

And this is what I hate.

I hate the fact that, like it's so tough to have a relationship when she when he offered her too, and like she threw, like, niggas is off from your back?

How what do you mean niggas is?

Why?

Yeah?

Because now I got my Instagram to where I got to compete with Instagram every day, where gods saying how beautiful I am, How you deserve this, you deserve that, and they gas and you see, and this is the problem with relationships.

Speaker 1

Man, you're wrong.

Speaker 2

I gotta compete every day.

If I don't upstage whoever I'm competing with, I gotta compete with millions of dudes every day from my girl.

Yeah, Like come on, man, that's crazy to me.

Like i gotta like make sure her mind is right, and I'm telling her she beautiful.

The one day I don't tell her she beautiful, I'm gonna be at a disadvantage because she got millions telling her this and because I was mad and all this, I gotta deal with this.

I'm like, come on, man, that's.

Speaker 1

Great period period.

I agree.

I agree.

I feel like Instagram does create a false sense of options because a lot of those people who are telling you look good and this they not doing nothing.

They're not going to really be committed to you in a relationship.

I think women mistake attention with actual like someone who wants to really deal with you.

Just because someone gives you attention doesn't mean they would want to be in a committed relationship, work with you, do this, da da da dah.

So yes, you can feel like it's a competition, but at the same time, like, if you have any sense at all, you know that that's not a real competition because they're not really gonna do nothing like and for her.

What I don't like is I don't like people who like try to put people down.

If I give you two thousand, this is what I'm doing for you, and then you tell me some other people are gonna go go with them, then like, I'm that type of someone else doing it.

Cool.

If that's what matters to you more is monetary shit than being in a real relationship, you go there, That's all.

I'm so sick of people right now.

Okay, we're gonna play a little game to where you tell me if this is a red fla flag or this you'll stay, Like would you stay or would you walk?

So you find out that your girl is texting there her ex every birthday, Happy birthday, wish you the best, hope everything is well.

Every year.

Speaker 2

Now your exes like break it down.

This your ex.

Speaker 1

Y'all, don't have kids, because it's different.

If you have kids, you're gonna say happy birthday.

We're not talking.

Speaker 2

About your don't kids with this person.

Speaker 1

No attachments, No attachments.

Speaker 2

That's a real flyd That's that's tricky.

Speaker 1

That's tricky because like you know, no.

Speaker 2

That's weak, and that you in a relationship.

Yeah, no, I'm good.

Don't do that.

That's disrespectful.

I agree, super disrespectful.

I agree, I'm over that.

Speaker 1

I'm cool.

Speaker 2

Yeah, you still got feelings, you still out here?

Like why you gotta do all that?

Let it go.

Speaker 1

It's so funny because I was in a relationship and I saw my ex he texted, well, it was my boyfriend at the time.

He texted his ex a paragraph like happy birthday.

I know you're doing great and I hope all is well, and I just there's a whole thing, and I'm like, uh, you still have feelings for this person?

Okay, So you find in your girl's phone a bunch of old sex tapes, and naked photos of her and her ex.

But they're old.

I didn't even know.

I didn't see them.

These are old, babe, Like I just forgot to delete them red flag or the pictures are old, they're not recent at all, but she still has keeping them in her phone.

Basically, you're not trippling off for that.

Yeah, okay, okay, okay.

You catch your girl liking thirst traps at at two am, like man doing weird sexy shit me, like you see it on Instagram?

Speaker 2

Yeah, I'm not even like I'm not even that advanced on Instagram where I can look to see whoever's.

Speaker 1

Like No, but like what if you go past it and you see like she's all on a man's page liking every pick and it's that two am.

You're not tripping off of that, okay, Like.

Speaker 2

I'm the type of dude that picked my battles, Like like, I don't know if that's your brother, I don't know if that's show your sister in law's brother cousin.

Like I'm not gonna just assume nothing right away.

Yeah, And like I always feel like, and I say this all the time, that the real truth will come to light, Like you know if you consistently do that in the middle of the night, then I'm gonna have some questions.

But if I catch you like once in a blue moon, like I ain't like I'm oh, I'm cool on all that trying to this.

I'm good and all that stress.

I worry about the big things.

Speaker 1

Okay, okay, what about okay?

What about they go through your phone while you're asleep and what they're just you catch them, you are sleeping, you wake up, and you catch them going through all your shit.

I'm your phone.

Speaker 2

I hope you don't find nothing.

Speaker 1

That's what I mean.

Speaker 2

What do you want me to do?

Speaker 1

Are you mad?

Speaker 2

Like?

Speaker 1

Why would you evade my privacy?

Why are you going through my phone while I'm sleep?

Or are you just like whatever?

Speaker 2

Like whatever?

Speaker 1

Okay?

Speaker 2

Like we sleep together?

What do you mean we sleep together?

We live together?

Speaker 1

You're a relationship?

Yeah, you sleep with the ship?

Okay, got you?

Okay?

What about okay, if.

Speaker 2

You catch the dude and you wake look over get your phone?

Like you be mad?

Speaker 1

No?

Not really, I'm not going to be mad.

I think that I'm just gonna be like whatever.

Like if I'm in a relationship and we're together, about that?

I don't think I would be mad at that.

I think I would just be like, whatever, I don't care about that, Honestly.

I think that for me obviously, like do you not trust me?

Like maybe it's a deeper conversation, but hopefully you saw the phone and you didn't find nothing, obviously, so you you like, I'm not worried about it in that way.

I think what I would be more concerned about is is there a trust issue here?

Speaker 2

Well, maybe he's never down to before.

He just I just want to be sure.

Speaker 1

He just wants to be.

Speaker 2

I just want to be sure one time.

Speaker 1

And that's the answer that I get.

Like, so you just wanted to be extra and you had your own issues from the past type of thing, then I probably would get it.

I'll be like, all right, cool.

What about you ask your partner to share locations and they say no, why not?

They say, like, I don't like that.

I'm old school.

I don't do ship like that.

Speaker 2

Share a location.

I think we live in that time.

Speaker 1

Yeah, yeah you should.

Speaker 2

Like I guess your partner, you should be able to do all that.

Speaker 1

Yeah, But what I feel like, I don't want to do that, Like what if you're like I think you got something high you think automatically.

Speaker 2

Lying about where you at, but like the location is nothing to me.

Speaker 1

Right, anyone be at any location and still be lying.

That's my point.

I can say that I'm here at dinner with my friend and I'm really with somebody.

Speaker 2

You can pull up to that location of a later day like you know, like if you had somebody house.

Speaker 1

Yeah, what if I'm at my house and someone's.

Speaker 2

Be at that apartment building?

Yeah, that's the tricky part.

You had an apartment building, you say your girl live here.

Speaker 1

I'm gonna find out exactly.

There's so many things.

It's like, this is my thing about the location thing.

If we have to get to that point of the location, it goes back into like you're trying to micro manage the relationship and you're never gonna be able to control where someone is what they're doing.

If someone is gonna cheat on you, they're gonna cheat on you.

If someone's gonna do this, they're gonna do this.

And in my thing, I'm like okay, but it makes me feel like damn, like do you know what?

Like you're trying to control, that's you trying to have a sense of control.

Speaker 2

The argument and all this, Where are you at about it?

Speaker 1

That's wild?

Yeah, But it's like for you to want to just say, let me micro manage everything, irust Yeah, exactly.

So if someone's like, where are you, I'm here, like whatever the case is, like you want to FaceTime?

Okay, Like, but I think that when you're trying to micromanager control the situation, like I've been in past relationships where I have been like I want to control everything.

I want to see this, I want to see that.

But you can do all of that and the motherfucker who's gonna cheat is going to cheat on you.

It don't matter what you do.

Matter of fact, the more pressure you put up on somebody, the more likely they're gonna do it because they feel pressurized and they feel like damn now you like damn near putting it on me, like to where I'm about to go do that shit?

Or like a woman will bring up a girl so often to a man he wasn't even thinking about her, Now I'm starting thinking about now, I'm like, da, well, shit, she's in my mind all the time.

You're pushing somebody to go, Like I feel like a lot of people end up pushing people into the arms of others and it's like, you gotta lay back.

I learned that I used to be uptight like and I have to just be like now that I'm older.

When I was young, I used to think you can control shit.

Now I realize you can't control nothing that nobody do.

And I'm not trying to do you.

I'm not trying to stock you down.

But anyways, okay, well that's about it.

Speaker 2

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We had a good conversation.

Speaker 1

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