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The Sitcom Episode (And the Couch is Haunted)

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Everybody's like, who is that?

This is Joey.

It's Joey, everybody.

Welcome Joey to the set.

Yay, Joey.

Oh, hello.

Jojo.

Jojo Potato.

No one's manning the soundboard.

Nobody's got, I mean, this could be, this could not even be happening right now.

It's possible this episode may not see the light of day.

Is this real?

I'm not even sure.

I'm not dreaming right now.

It's the sitcom episode on this episode of Hootin' and Hollerin'.

We're touching on our favorite sitcoms of the past.

But we didn't really narrow it down to one decade.

My podcast arm just, my arm just freaked me out.

I'm going to just time out here for a second.

I'm pretty sure there's a ghost in here.

Give me back my arm.

There is one on your shirt.

There's multiple on your shirt.

Yeah.

You got some little boo guys in there.

I might be conjuring the spirits up.

I'm inviting men with my ghost merch.

You're right.

There was the Holy Ghost here at one point.

Yeah.

Something on this set is definitely haunted.

This couch is probably got some...

Possessed?

Yeah.

Yeah, there's been some spirits on this thing.

It could have been in any of this memorabilia we got.

That's true.

We all know where it came from.

Gentlemen, I think it's appropriate that we kick off our discussion on sitcoms with best intro song of of sitcoms of all of them.

What do you think?

I don't want to don't give me something generic.

Don't give me like you know we all know Sanford's son had the greatest theme song of all time.

Well that's what it is.

Yeah.

Why would you give me a deep cut?

Give me so maybe not best I mean I think maybe the most underrated.

Oh there is one Mr.

Bale the Deer was pretty nice.

Sing that for me.

Yeah.

I don't remember how exactly it goes but it had what's his name?

Jamie can you pull that up?

Oh wait.

Yeah, freaking Joey.

Man, there was something I heard the other day.

It was a good one, and I cannot remember what it is now.

Shooting fish in a barrel, man.

Yeah, really.

We're off to a fantastic start.

Yeah.

Well, I was going to say Sanford and Son, usually don't try Sanford and Son, even though it's the best.

Yeah.

I just took it right away from you.

Okay, then Roseanne.

There we go.

That's a good one.

So we're going underrated?

Yeah.

Step by step.

It's catchy.

It gets in your head.

And when it's there, it takes a few days to leave.

It's the same song as Full House and Family Matters.

They're all like the same.

You could swap them all out.

It is.

It's the same guy.

Same dude.

He did like all the DJF songs, didn't he?

I think so.

That dude was making money.

Yeah.

Well, maybe.

Got a little rasp in there.

He probably got paid like an initial fee and the residuals are way more now.

Yeah.

That was a great era though because TV shows had like a, they go out and get a guy to write a song for him and like it's now the show.

It's part of the show.

Yeah.

Now it's more commonplace.

They go use like a, you know, get the rights to a song that already has been recorded.

And that, that's okay.

In the moment, I guess that's fine.

But that screws things up when it gets to streaming because then they have to renegotiate.

So you got shows out there that like don't have the original theme song anymore.

Wonder Years did it first.

They did.

That's a good, that's a good theme song, but it's not.

They're going to stream somebody else with, they had to get somebody else to sing the intro or did they do a completely different song?

I can't remember.

Of that?

Yeah.

It's, what's his name?

Is it Bob Seger singing?

Joe Cocker was originally, but I think they had to get somebody else to sing it for the streaming.

Oh, I got you.

I got you.

But I can't remember if it was somebody else singing that song or if it was just a completely different song that they had.

Oh, that'd be weird if it was a different one.

Dawson's Creek did the same thing.

They had to use a different song.

Totally oh god they couldn't get the right six pence none the riches or whatever it was.

Is that what yeah wait was it yeah that's the i don't want to wait yeah it's her it's who paula cole i think is her name she's from here ain't she no she's telling that girl ain't from walker county paula cole she's from empire all day i think she's canadian i don't know i don't know that song sucks yeah but you expect to hear it every time dawson's creek come on and so when When you hear a different song, it just messes the whole thing up.

Yeah.

The vibe's ruined.

From Dawson.

I think the most memorable one for me is Fresh Prince of Bel-Air, though.

Yeah.

That's a good one.

That is a very good one.

Very original.

I was reading about that the other day.

He watched the pilot and then just sat down and wrote it out.

Really?

Yeah, just based off what he read in the pilot episode.

Pretty much as a summary of the pilot.

Which is a good theme song.

You know right off what you're getting into.

Yeah, I like theme songs that just set the whole show up for you.

So it's like, I don't need to know anything.

Like, I'm about to learn everything I need to know if I've never seen it before right now in 30 seconds in the form of song.

That was their way of hooking you in real quick.

Oh, yeah.

It's kind of turned more into a jingle for shows now.

It's not so much as an intro song.

They'll be real quick.

Yeah.

And some, not at all.

You know, I blame for this and we're getting into more of the modern era here, but New Girl.

Yeah.

New Girl had like, they had a longer theme song sung by Zooey Deschanel.

She's going to sing if she's on something.

You better believe it.

She's going to over sing it.

She's singing cursive.

See, but the full version of the theme song is great, but they would always do an abbreviated version.

It was like five seconds.

Yeah, and that sucked.

It was like, give us a good theme song.

Yeah.

I want to get fired up to watch what I'm watching.

Yeah.

I want to get ready.

Like A-Team theme song.

Especially back then because, well, not New Girl, but like back in the 80s and 90s, you had to wait a whole week to watch your show.

Yes.

So you had to have that intro.

Now you have to skip the intro because you're binge watching it.

Yeah, that's true.

There's some shows I still don't skip the intro.

Game of Thrones.

You watch it every time.

Yeah, that's a good one.

Man, that A-Team, that intro came on my TV the other day and I was just pumping my fist, man.

like, yeah, I was so fired up.

It's good, man.

He's got the dude narrating over it, too.

Yes.

Knight Rider as well.

Oh, Knight Rider as well.

That's not sitcom, though.

But neither is the team.

No, we've gone.

We've talked about it.

Off the rails immediately.

As a kid, I loved Three's Company.

As the older sitcom thing that I liked, that is a good one.

Andy Griffith.

Iconic.

Classic.

That just screams to me summer afternoons.

Like when I hear that whistling.

That's summer afternoon at Grandma's house.

10 o'clock at night is what it makes me think of.

Really?

We TTO.

Yep.

You better believe it.

Sanford and Son, I think, will come on right after it.

Yeah.

You didn't get no words in those intros.

Don't need none.

Don't need none.

My most memorable nighttime theme song is MASH, and I hear that, and I know it's time to go to bed.

Yeah.

That's how I want to watch MASH.

Yeah, it is.

That was my last song.

Show of the night you watch smash yeah i wouldn't i'd be done you ever watched it, it's good yeah no i know it is but it's yeah don't get back into it nah i watched a lot of other stuff on nick at night we were all about nick at night all about it what's crazy is all the shows we used to watch as kids are now on nick and not that's yeah like what well like it would be on nick like like yeah like whole house for sure family matters and all that yeah, Yeah, we watched a lot of Happy Days, watched a lot of I Love Lucy, Green Acres.

I Love Lucy's good.

Yeah.

Classic.

Also, that's a great theme song, too, there.

I don't know.

I can't think.

I can't.

Ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba.

Da-da-da.

Oh, it's like a talk show kind of thing.

Da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da.

You want to keep it going?

Yeah.

I thought it went Yeah Okay It gets heavy Yeah.

Now I got it Yeah It's just a heart It's just a heart On screen the whole time Yeah It wasn't budget Curtains Was it Was his name's band Oh 100% Yeah you know it was Desi Arnaz Desi Arnaz Desi and the Desi and his boys Desi and the Jets Yeah.

You know, it's interesting going back and watching that.

They're a young couple, Desi and Arnaz and Lucy, Ricky and Lucy.

But then they're best friends, but they're very much elderly neighbors.

Or they look elderly for the time.

They were probably in their 30s.

That's how aging worked back then.

Yeah, Fred looked like everybody's pawpaw.

Fred looked just like my pawpaw.

He wore his pants pretty high.

Oh, classic pawpaw move.

Why are they not sleeping in bed together?

It was just scandalous.

You couldn't show that on TV back then.

Yeah.

Like, even though they're married, it just implies they're about to make Whoopi.

That is stupid.

Yeah.

He's about to love Lucy.

You know what?

I heard, I don't know if this is true, the first couple on TV to ever be shown in a bed together.

Who do you think it was?

I did know this at one time, but I forgot.

Yeah.

This is a good trivia question.

It is the Flintstones.

Does that count?

They're the first ones.

Animated, yes.

But that's what I've heard.

Is somebody else, I've heard this before, but I can't.

I thought it was I Love Lucy, but I guess you're saying it wasn't.

So it probably came.

So for it.

And I also, I think there's a movie that says that.

Yeah.

Trivia in it.

So it may not be true.

But also, I don't care for this.

Yeah.

You also couldn't show toilets back then.

So what?

You couldn't show toilets back then.

Yeah.

I mean, gosh.

She's still going to see toilets now.

Toilets are bad news.

But also, I don't want to see your toilet.

No.

There's not really a need to.

I've got one.

I only see.

Once you've seen one, you've seen them all.

Yeah.

I did like when Tim Allen did the bathroom remodel stuff on Home Improvement, though.

Okay.

So that's a good segue to this one here.

What is your family's most watched sitcom when you were little?

And ours was Home Improvement by far.

And you know what?

Very few shows hold up.

That one, there's moments.

But the episodes where he would trick out the bathroom and then the basement for the middle, what's the middle one's name?

JTT.

Randy.

Was that his name?

Yeah.

Randy?

Yeah, Randy.

Ain't nobody naming their 80s baby Randy either, by the way.

That can't be right.

I didn't have any friends named Randy.

No, there was a Randy.

Yeah, there was.

It was Brad.

It was Brad, Randy.

Randy and kid that turned emo.

Yeah.

Tim Jr.

God.

Oh, Timmy.

He was a macho kid, Randy Taylor.

Macho kid.

That's going to bug the crap out of me.

Yeah, the trick out episodes were always, those were entertaining.

I've gone back and re-watched those because it's just, it's fun.

I think we probably watched Night Court.

That's the most one I remember.

That was family.

I'm talking about appointment viewing.

It's like the whole family gathers around the TV once a week at this time to watch the show together.

Brad, Randy, and Mark.

Mark.

Yeah, Mark.

Randy really stuck out That is not a name No that's weird That's a much older name That's a weird fit Yeah I feel like That was my dad's name So I feel like that was like Yeah yeah The last Yeah I about to say That's a dad name Yeah A lot of Randy's dad generation, That was ours We gotta sit down And watch this as a family show Yes Yes that was ours That was big I really hinged on Yeah What, I guess the thing is Is like Which of the sitcoms Did your dad really enjoy And mom too So then everybody's watching That's what I was going to say.

We just watched whatever dad was watching.

Well, like, I remember we watched Full House, but I don't think dad was really in that Full House.

But mom would watch it with us.

My dad was not about to watch Full House.

No, son.

He got Full House.

I was a little kid back then, so I was all about it.

It's not a good rewatch.

It's maximum cheesy.

Oh, I appreciate all the cheese of it in, like, Saved by the Bell.

Yeah, that's a special kind of cheese for me.

That's a nostalgic cheese.

That's the foolishness.

That's the canned cheese.

That's a vintage cheese.

It's everything you thought when your little high school was going to be, and it was.

Oh, so wrong.

Not at all.

So wrong.

First of all, from what you can tell, Bayside High School only has about 30 kids.

Yeah.

Yeah, small.

Very small.

For a California school, too.

Two hallways.

Yeah.

Oh, and FYI, hitting the locker does not make it open.

No.

No.

Well, the problem is you're not cool enough.

No.

You can't stuff anybody in a locker.

You didn't have a jerry curl.

Like, we had half lockers.

Like, they never went from, like, floor to ceiling.

No.

No.

Like, all the illusions, they just sold us a bunch of lies.

You could be a rock star in high school.

That's another show where one of the characters changed over time, because at one point, Screech talked like a normal person.

And toward the end, he was like just a total goofball.

He was almost nonverbal at the end.

It's the Homer Simpson-ing of characters.

Like, even though that, does it probably don't predate?

The Simpsons?

It's close.

But like, it's the thing, it's the thing that you keep dumbing down a character because you can make them do pretty much anything.

Like you can, I can make the dumbest joke I want to and I can always throw it on this character.

And so they slowly, not always intentionally, but it happens over the course of a bunch of seasons.

You dumb it out.

We were talking earlier about Kevin Malone at the office.

They, Homer Simpson, him hard.

But Screech became the comic relief and they just made him more and more of a character.

You don't have to worry about their storyline even.

No.

They don't have to do anything.

Screech's storyline.

I don't even know what his deal was.

What is his deal?

He's trying to get with Lisa through the whole show.

Yes.

I bet Screech had a weird home life.

Something was going on there.

Screech may have been homeless.

It could have been.

I've seen him in his house a few times.

Oh my God.

There was an episode where Zach tries to help a homeless girl that's living in the mall or something.

Yeah.

You don't see that?

There's a whole series of Jack Morris trash that if you haven't seen before, they break down episodes that just basically talk about how terrible of a person Zach Morris is.

And it's really good.

Well, he was willing to be a stepdad to that kid in Hawaii, though.

Was he?

Yeah.

Oh, was that the...

Wait, when they did like a little summer break?

Mm-hmm.

Yeah.

They basically saved the ranch.

That was the nice thing about sitcoms.

They always went to Hawaii for vacation.

There's always a vacation episode.

Well, unless you were a TJF show.

But that's always a...

Disney World.

Yeah.

That's always a to be continued also.

It's always a two-part.

Yep.

Almost every time.

The Hawaii episode?

Maximizing their time.

Yeah, I love them.

That's exactly what it is, yeah.

Yeah.

We spent a lot of the budget going there, so you got to make two episodes.

Disney World's no joke, too, in TV shows.

TGIF, it became a thing, and they were still doing it.

That show Black-ish, they had a Disney World episode.

That wasn't even that long ago.

Disney is pumping some money into some stuff.

Well, it's on ABC.

Disney owns ABC.

Yep.

Remember, you win a championship.

You go on Disney World.

Oh, for sure.

That was a thing.

Which, honest, that, I mean, this is not sitcoms, but that's exhausting.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I just won the Super Bowl.

You think I want to go to fight a crowd at Disney World?

Yeah.

I'm a grown man.

I want to sleep.

Without a family.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Exactly.

It's like when Jalen Hurst said, I'm going to Disney World or Disneyland, whichever one.

He'd look like he's like, I ain't going.

Yeah.

I'm going to take a nap.

They pay them so much money.

I'm going to eat something.

To do that.

Yeah.

It's insane.

Really?

Like they have to, yeah, they're like seeking out the camera so they can throw it out there.

Yeah.

That's pretty good.

Yeah.

They signed that agreement, I think, beforehand, like to either quarterback.

And when you win, we're going to give you the cut to use check if you say it.

Yeah.

I was reading something.

I can't remember what show it was, but one of the series, they fought against going to Disney World or Disneyland because it didn't make sense for their family to go to.

It might have been Roseanne.

Was they on ABC?

I think so.

Did they have a Disney World episode?

I don't think so.

Because I remember there was a big deal and they fought back and forth.

And I can't remember if they ended up going or won it overnight.

Good for them because they would not go to.

Yeah, I think it was the Six Flags family.

Yeah.

Yeah.

They're visually.

The state fair.

Yeah.

They're going to the county fair, not even state fair.

Oh, man.

This is good, too.

This is when we pull the audience on here.

So the most overrated sitcom.

Do you want to go ahead and do you want to hear the audience?

I ranked them.

I'm probably going to agree.

Based off of their responses.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So, going from fifth to the most overrated, according to what our audience said, fifth most overrated show, Big Bang Theory.

Overrated.

I thought that'd be higher.

There's a lot of Big Bang Theory haters out there.

There's a lot.

I didn't really watch it, so I can't really...

I like it.

I like it.

I don't love it.

I just...

From what I've seen I'm over laugh tracks I don't want to watch anything with a laugh track so I didn't even give a chance there was the characters are ridiculous I saw a video where they stripped away the laugh tracks of some of the jokes and they were not funny I'm like yeah I bet oh man it's crazy how they're playing with us like that yeah it does it's kind of awkward some of them are like sexually awkward but I have seen clips of the spinoff show where Sheldon's young Sheldon totally different set I mean different style show yeah it's a non-studio show yeah yeah or studio audience show It's a single camera show.

And the little clips I've seen of it look entertaining.

I liked it way better than Big Bang Theory.

Yeah.

Yeah, but it looks a lot better.

Sheldon's still just as annoying and bad as he is in the show in Big Bang Theory.

But the other characters that are around him, I liked him a whole lot more than characters in the Big Bang Theory.

Takes place in the 90s too, doesn't it?

Yes.

Yeah.

80s, 90s.

What a time.

Fourth most overrated, two and a half men.

I've never watched it well i did watch one episode didn't like it but i also don't i can't i loved it until ashton kutcher came in that was my they should have stopped it, most overrated what yeah yeah that was my last pick for most overrated but i've only called like i catch an episode here and there and i was yeah i didn't really care for it they probably seen just really grinds on me and i don't i think john cryer was kind of funny in it but yeah John Cryer won so many Emmys, I think, for his role in that, for supporting actor in a comedy series.

And then what's funny is that right before that Big Bang Theory, what's his name that plays Sheldon in that series won how many straight Emmys?

Jim something.

Jim Parsons.

Jim Parsons.

Critics apparently loved it.

Whoever votes on the Emmys loaded them up.

It didn't seem like a great acting job to me, but whatever.

No.

Third most overrated show, The Office.

Yeah.

I know that.

I'm going to holler about that.

Yeah, I know.

Listen, I was the biggest office hater because I watched season one and absolutely hated it.

Yeah, yeah.

But then throughout it.

They lean hard into their British source material for that one and went heavy on the cringe.

And so it is a tough watch if you don't like cringe, embarrassing moments, especially some of the later, like Scott's Tots and The Dinner Party.

Yes, Dinner Party is one of the best episodes of TV ever.

It is.

But so I can see it's not for everybody.

It's not going to be for everybody.

Yeah.

I didn't watch it when it was current, and I tried to go back and watch it later, and I could not get into it because it was like I've heard all these jokes already from people quoting them and clips.

And it really – that style of comedy was getting really big at that time, too.

Oh, it blew it up.

I don't know.

Yeah, and I was just kind of over it.

If I would have been watching it when it was currently on, I probably would have liked it much more.

It's not the first mockumentary-style sitcom, but it was and still remains the biggest one ever.

Yeah.

And it paved the way for, like, Modern Family to do the same thing.

Yeah, that, Parks and Rec.

My favorite one's Parks and Rec.

I do like Parks and Rec better than The Office.

Nobody ever threw Parks and Rec out there.

We did have some Modern Families, but they weren't enough to get the top five.

We tried Modern Family and couldn't get into it.

I like it.

Modern Family's fun.

Yeah, I do, too.

I thought it was pretty good.

Good show.

The little bit that I watched of it.

Yeah, some episodes are better than others, but when it's on and it's a funny episode, it's a top tier.

Good stuff.

These are only going to make people mad as we get to number one.

Second most overrated, according to the audience, is Seinfeld.

Holler.

That's a hard holler for me, too.

I'm okay with it just because I've never invested time in it.

There's no way that's overrated.

Yeah, people who say that are either, you know, they don't understand comedy.

Yeah.

Or they're probably little kids when it came on.

And I could kind of see like a little kid not enjoying Seinfeld because some of the jokes are.

That's my case.

Yeah.

Yeah.

If you don't like it, just go watch Kirby Enthusiasm, and you have to like that.

Yeah.

It's the adult, more adult version of Seinfeld, in my opinion.

See, there was a, I used to have a t-shirt that had like a Kramer painting on it.

I didn't really understand it.

I just knew like it was Kramer from Seinfeld, even though I never watched a show.

Right.

And people come up and give me like one-liners of his from the show, and I would not understand.

Yeah.

Like, I'm sorry.

That's tough.

Maybe I shouldn't wear this shirt.

Sure, like name, name, name a Nirvana song, name anyone.

Larry, Larry David is just such a genius.

The way they would like just have all these plots going on and it would all tie in at the end of the episode.

And he is very good.

I mean, it's to me, it's the best sitcom of all time.

It is good.

It was ahead of its time.

And it holds it today.

We watch it almost nightly before we go to bed.

And it's still as funny as it was ever.

The thing that first episode was like, was it 1989?

That's insane.

That's nuts.

For that kind of comedy to break through in 89.

And unlike most sitcoms, it got better as it went.

Last two seasons are like the best two seasons.

Yeah.

Yeah.

You know, as other sitcoms, you know, it's kind of.

Also, it didn't, to be fair, they didn't, they didn't like build on each season.

So it's like, they didn't have a chance to like, you know, build this tower that was going to topple over.

Like good to go back to the office.

Like once season two to me is the best because it's the whole time you got this Jim and Pam like tension.

Are they, are they going to get together or not?

But once they got together, that's gone.

So you're trying to find new stories elsewhere but Seinfeld didn't they didn't do anything like that they didn't have to worry about it well they kind of did because you know they tried to shoot their pilot and then George started oh yeah that was yeah you know Susan well that led to the most disappointing series finale of all time yeah, I can't even remember the finale of it they all got put in put in jail because they I don't even watch the bad people well that guy was like choking on something and they were all like laughing at it because I'm making fun of him and stuff so they that's right Yeah.

I don't have to watch it, no.

Thanks.

There you go.

No, it does not matter.

Yeah, you don't have to.

The series finale is disappointing way more than they hear.

Yeah.

That's just how.

Just because nobody wants to see the show end, that's just.

Yeah.

It's tough.

And I always got different opinions on how it should have ended.

There's never going to be closure.

Yeah, you're never going to make everybody happy.

Everybody writes around canon events of certain shows.

Yeah.

Number one, most overrated sitcom of all time, according to our audience, is Friends.

Agreed.

I'll hoot it.

Hoot it all day.

Thank you.

Don't understand why people like it.

I'm glad.

I'm just glad it's not me because I thought for many years it was just me that hated that show.

No, there's a lot of people that hate it.

Yeah.

It's not terrible.

I mean, it has its moments, but to be as, I mean, it was like huge, I mean, a huge show.

And the male characters are so over the top.

Yeah.

That it drives me nuts trying to watch them.

The female character is not that bad, honestly.

Phoebe, pretty annoying.

Yeah, she's my favorite character for some reason.

She's my favorite actress on there.

Actually, I'm going to be honest with you.

Every character on the show is annoying.

Yeah, they are.

It's just...

It's just horribly unbelievable.

But you're right.

It has its moments.

It's not the worst show ever, but to be as big as it was, I would say it's.

But just because, in my opinion, calling it overrated doesn't mean you think it's the worst.

It's just you don't understand why people hype it up so much.

And that is definitely the number one.

I think it's the biggest of all time.

Friends fans, I think, were watching it when it was coming on in the 90s.

I don't know a lot of people that I'm sure some exist and they're going to let us know in the comments that have found friends later on in life.

And then like decided to binge stream it for the first time in their 30s and 40s.

No, you watched it back in the 90s and you still watch it now.

Yeah.

Like you're not, you're not discovering it.

You wouldn't think so.

And if you are, it's just so that you can wear the merch and stuff.

That's why you've started watching that.

One of the things that got on my nerves about this show is that they would take two characters to go off to the side and have a conversation.

Like, I can't believe Joey and Ross is doing this.

And they would be like five feet away from him.

Like, you can't hear him talk.

Yeah, it's, yeah, they do that a lot.

Yeah.

And, oh, my gosh.

And they play this guitar riff every time it changed scenes.

Hey, that was a massively underwrite part of 90 sitcoms is the music in transition scene.

Yeah, too.

Yeah.

How else would we know?

Yeah.

Without the guitar riff.

That is a god-awful theme song.

The Friends would also.

So bad.

Yeah.

I did enjoy that when we would do, hey, when we do trivia nights, Friends trivia night, that'll bring a crowd.

It was a massive fan base.

And I did enjoy audience participation when I would play the theme song and then we'd get that clap in there at the beginning.

Yeah.

That was, I always liked that.

There's a thing with friends.

Then it was down the highway.

There's a thing with friends fans that are like, They almost compete to see who knows the most about the show within the fan base.

Yeah, yeah.

The Office is the same.

The Office is definitely like that.

Yeah.

And that's another reason I don't want to get in it.

Get the super fans.

Yeah.

Just watch Parks and Rec.

Yeah.

I'll watch some of it.

I love Parks and Rec.

I like the characters a lot better.

Besides the middle, there's a couple of seasons in The Office, like the fourth, fifth, where it peaks.

And to me it's like some of the greatest TV of all time but if you take that away, Parks and Rec is about the same yeah that's what I thought it was originally going to be a a spinoff but yeah cause what's her name Rashida Jones' character was going to be the same yeah same character but for some reason they scrapped that she's in both.

And Parkinson's yeah and she and it's basically the same character so I don't know why Parks and Rec had better characters, by far the office had better like moments and jokes but it I mean it they built to a good joke and it was yeah a lot of it was because of Dwight yeah Parks and Rec also gets points for not having the most, annoying people on there like Jim and Pam, Jim and Pam annoy you yeah, he's an April and Andy guy like if you could take those two out and then last season Andy out that would be which it got unbearable and, that what's bad is I love him Like, in most stuff he's in.

Yeah.

But as Andy, I was like, God.

Rough.

He was good the first.

The most punchable character in TV history.

It was good when he first came on in, when he had, like, all those anger issues.

It was a bone statement.

You're not wrong.

That was good, but then he slowly became annoying after that.

Anything you'd add to this list here?

Rick-a-dick-do.

Most overrated show?

Yeah.

We pretty much agree with this.

Yeah.

It was pretty good.

That's, yeah.

I mean, I disagree on the office part, but I understand that.

It is a big, there's a lot of culture, a lot of office stuff out there.

Oh, best sitcom dad.

That's tough.

Danny Tanner is.

I would not want to live under the same roof as Danny Tanner.

I wouldn't, but.

I'm not a clean guy.

Phenomenal dad, though.

I'm going to go with Dan Conner.

I guess it's really.

He's the one, I don't know, boy, when he gets mad.

Yeah, scary.

It's like situational, okay?

If you're.

Are you saying that you would want to be your dad?

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I think maybe that, but think about a situation like, Best Dad, you call like you're in a jam.

What sitcom dad are you going to call?

Probably Dan Conner to me because he punched that guy one time.

Yeah.

Yeah, he's going to take care of his own for a fact.

But when he gets mad, man, you better watch out.

Danny Tanner would take you over and have a little talk to you and have some sad music play.

Yeah, he's going to get punked out by other dads too.

Yeah, yeah.

That's a good point.

He's going to get punched in the face and then there's going to be like the end will be him like a bag of frozen beans.

Yeah, I don't want him as my dad.

Meat on his face.

But he's a good dad.

Jason Seaver.

Uncle Jesse.

Is that his name?

The Alpha Grown Pains?

Jason Seaver?

Yeah, therapist.

Yes.

He's a good dad.

Yeah, he's a pretty solid dad.

Judge Banks.

Yep.

Yeah.

I got a massively underrated one.

Oh, yeah.

You live in a mansion.

You want to be rich.

That comes too.

But also, he'll come to your rescue.

Like him, hustling him in the game of pool was one of the best.

Yeah, that's a memorable episode.

He was like a former gangster or something, kind of.

He had a side to him.

He had the running with that other judge that was played by, what's his name, Jefferson's...

Yeah, yeah.

Those were always great episodes, too.

Yeah, that was good.

Massively underrated one that if you've watched the show, you'll just gonna click with it.

Alan Matthews from Boy Meets World.

Also great.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

He what?

Hard-working grocery store owning dad.

Well, I think he just worked there.

He owned the, like, sporting goods store.

Yeah, he bought the sporting goods store.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I know who you don't want is your dad, Al Bundy.

No.

You know, he kept the roof over their head.

He did the bare minimum.

He earned his money selling shoes.

He did the bare minimum.

He did enough that Peg didn't have to work.

Yeah.

I feel like he didn't get the respect that he needed.

His kids didn't respect it.

Yeah.

No, he didn't.

Well, I mean, Rachel said this earlier, actually.

They'd just be eating toothpaste and crackers and stuff.

You're right.

That's what they eat there.

That's all they had.

They was always in the cabinet looking for food that was not in there.

Man, I have this down here, but worst dad?

Tim Taylor.

I thought he was a good dad.

He was a good dad.

He was a good dad.

Yeah, you will have this risk of, like, coming home from school and, like, let's see what's broke today, you know?

Yeah.

Or, like, your advice that you're going to give from dad, like, your heart-to-heart moment is going to be, like, some, like, a very poorly worded thing that Wilson told him.

Yeah.

Yeah.

That was always best when he would get some stuff.

Yeah, your dad's essentially an idiot.

Yeah, oh, 100%.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Just a dummy.

But he's...

But he's famous.

And he knows Heidi.

Yep.

He does.

He does know Heidi.

Tim Tyler was a good dad.

Got some cool cars.

He just, funny dad.

Yeah.

Yeah, yeah.

Jill was a much better mom.

She was, she was, she was taking that house together.

She was a little overbearing at times, though.

I still had to be.

Al Bundy's got to be the worst.

Mommy and dad there.

Al Bundy's yours?

He's got to be the worst.

Worst dad?

Yeah.

He sucks.

I don't know the dad from Two and a Half Men.

John Cryer's character.

Is that, is that his son, the kid that's in that?

Yeah.

What, terrible?

What about my two dads?

You got two dads to choose from.

One's got to be the worst in the world.

Move your kid in with your degenerate brother.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I mean, he had years to get out of there.

He didn't.

He stayed.

No motivation.

Exposing that poor child to all the things.

But there was a maid, though, wasn't there?

Yeah.

Rose.

No, not a rose.

What did he do?

I've never watched that show.

What does he do to have all this money?

Charlie?

Yeah.

He writes jingles for big corporations.

Oh, my God.

What's bad is John Cryer's character was a chiropractor.

Why did he have his own place?

Thank you.

He should be making more than the jingle guy.

He was a divorcee.

His wife kept their house, but throughout the whole show, he stayed in that house.

Even when Ashton Kutcher's character came in, he still pled his case to stay there with Ashton Kutcher's character.

Jingle guys aren't filthy rich.

Jingle guys don't have mates.

No.

Jingle guys don't have mates.

Who was Ashton Kutcher?

that what did he come on for when charlie sheen went through all his stuff and they fired him from the show they replaced him with okay he remember he was winning yeah that's what he said all the time he got hit by a train in the show you don't remember that oh charlie sheen did yeah winning winning yes i can't wait for that netflix documentary either he should have come and gone it's been forever he's got hiv don't he i don't know how he's still alive he's sober now oh they don't take HIV away.

No.

Magic Johnson's still here, though.

Yeah, he's healed.

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The best mom of the sitcoms, Roseanne and Why.

Hardest working one.

Oh, yeah.

What was Roseanne's job?

She worked at the Lunchbox.

That's right.

That's right.

Yeah.

Yeah.

The whole show, right?

Or did she get fired?

Not the entire show.

So they end up owning it, I think.

I think she did something different in the beginning.

I think she, yeah, there was, oh, oh, oh, oh, they worked at a plant of some kind.

Yeah, I was going to say it was a plant or a factory, wasn't it?

Yeah, her and Jackie worked there together, I think, like a hot dog plant or something like that.

Like Marjack.

Something like that, yeah, corn dog factory, maybe.

Something like that.

Yeah.

An homage to John Goodman's Louisiana Roots corn dog factory.

Yep.

I kind of like Kitty Foreman from that 70s show.

Oh.

I never watched the...

What did she do?

She was a nurse.

She was a nurse?

Yeah.

I was just about to say there was a lot of like 90s sitcom moms that didn't have jobs which was very like...

They were stale.

Not relatable.

Peg Bundy did not have a job.

Yeah.

Which is...

They could have helped out a lot.

Yeah.

They needed it.

Yeah.

Claire Huxtable.

She got me up there.

Yeah.

Yeah.

She's tough.

She's tough though, boy.

She had to be.

Yeah.

Couldn't keep billing What did the mom on Fresh Prince do?

Was she a stay-at-home mom?

She was an attorney.

Was she an attorney?

No, she was.

I thought she was a stay- He was an attorney.

She had a job, I'm pretty sure.

She danced.

She was dressed really nice for every episode.

Yeah, I was thinking she was like a doctor or something.

I may be making that up.

I don't- Or not a teacher.

I feel like I've seen her in business suits before.

Well, the dad was a judge, so- He was a judge.

That's right.

Yeah, for sure.

He did well.

She did something.

I can't remember.

Yeah.

She was all right, though.

Although, they did a little switcheroo on her.

Yeah.

That was weird.

Character swaps in those sitcoms.

I like when they acknowledge it on Fresh Prince.

Will's like, you know, F.V., something just feels off about you.

I thought that was pretty good.

They did the same with Roseanne when they swapped the Beckys.

And then they brought her back.

Yeah, they switched her back.

But the first time the new Becky came out and they was watching, was I Dream of Genie or whatever with the husband?

They swapped the new Darren or whatever his name was.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Wait, was it that or Bewitched?

Bewitched.

Yeah, Bewitched.

And she's like in the damn set, something like, I can't believe they just switched out the characters nobody noticed.

And the new Becky was like, yeah, I like the new Darren a lot better.

That's awesome.

That's really good.

We were talking about, we were talking about this earlier that Boy Meets World did that with the sister.

and they do make a reference when she comes down the stairs after not being in the show for four seasons or something like, man, I was in my room for a long time.

It was a totally different girl too.

Yeah, and then I love it.

It's just, and then we move on.

That's it.

That's how we settle that.

The Family Matters daughter, the sister went upstairs and never came back.

Hey, the mom on that show is good too.

She is good.

Yeah, she's really good.

She held that house together.

That's another good dad, Carl Winslow.

Yeah, that's a good, that's a good, That's a great dad.

Yeah.

I mean, think of everything he did at that house and at Nakatoma Plaza.

Yeah.

And what was the oldest brother's name?

Kevin?

Oh, my gosh.

Cliff?

Yeah, Cliff Huxable.

Oh.

Anyway.

That are you talking about?

He was trying to get in trouble sometimes, wasn't he?

All the time.

Yeah.

All the time.

And he was always fair, but was he Eddie?

No, he was Eddie.

His buddy was Walter.

Eddie.

Waldo!

Yeah, yeah.

Oh, yeah.

I was thinking his buddy was Eddie.

I meant to put that in here as like best neighbor.

But really, Family Matters really had two kind of, because Waldo was around like he's the crazy neighbor, but we don't know where he lived.

He was just dumb.

Urkel was your crazy neighbor.

That's a sucker.

Who was not supposed to be that big of a character in the show originally.

That's what they always say that Carl Winslow hated Urkel in real life.

Jaleel White or the character?

Yeah, both.

Oh.

Because he ended up being the star of the show.

The mom was, you know, she was, that was a spinoff show, Perfect Strangers, because the mom worked with Cousin Larry or whatever.

What?

Yeah.

Yeah.

So she came over there.

So it was supposed to be her show.

Whoa.

And then Hurkle was supposed to be on one episode and becomes super.

Yeah.

Killed it.

And by the end, he was making like so much more money than everybody in the cast.

Oh, man.

Good for him.

Well, you didn't see his face on T-shirts.

I love Carl Winslow.

You wouldn't see Carl Winslow on T-shirts.

She tried to get out of a contract.

Carl Winslow's shirt.

Yeah, because she didn't want to be part of it no more, but she was like under contract and all this stuff.

It's a little while we're making it in.

He also was the voice of Sonic the Hedgehog in the animated series.

He did a lot.

He did some voiceover.

Yeah, he was making it.

Kimmy Gibbler.

Kimmy Gibbler is a...

In my mind, the most annoying neighbor.

I hated it.

She's not a good neighbor.

Gosh.

And if you want to play some antics, Mr.

Feeney.

Yeah.

He's in the wise, you know, advice, wise owl camp.

He's the Wilson.

He's essentially the same character, but you can see his face.

Also, and then you got the hybrid of that.

Kramer could also sometimes be wise, but also more often so crazy.

He's going to bring some excitement.

Oh, for sure.

Yeah.

Kramer is a good one.

Even though he wasn't a neighbor, every time Jeff, Jazzy Jeff, got thrown out of the house, that was hilarious.

Yeah, yeah.

Sleeper here, I think his name was Cody on Step by Step.

Yes.

That lived in the RV in the backyard.

Oh, yeah.

Yes, Cody was great.

What about Ned Flanders?

Yeah, there you go.

Aunt Jackie on Rosina.

Did she live by then?

Yeah, she was the next door neighbor.

Oh, yeah.

Jackie's the best.

Yeah.

Absolutely.

I want her as a neighbor.

Going back to the characters that just went missing with no explanation, the best one to me was I don't remember I think it was, halfway through the series on Married with Children do y'all remember the kid that come lived with them seven oh yeah it was like Peggy's cousins like dropped him off and left him there and then he just one day was not on there anymore but then like next season or a season later, somebody's in the refrigerator like getting a carton of milk out and his missing picture is like on it but they don't even acknowledge it or anything they'll take a drink of it and put it back that's great, that's great they swapped out the neighbors too Jefferson the first neighbor was awesome oh he was the second he was the younger one yeah yeah was Steve the other one yeah yeah Steve yeah Steve was not as cool as Jefferson Jefferson ruled yeah that was pretty good, Marcy terrible neighbor Marcy Darcy Marcy Darcy.

I love that character this is a good one and I think the answer is us best set, Best set.

Yeah.

We got it.

This is it.

It's not sitcom, but it is pretty fantastic.

Yeah.

We're best in the game.

For me, it's got to be Roseanne.

It is the most.

The most realistic.

Yeah, yeah, for sure.

It is.

Mismatched furniture.

It's so good.

Not very similar to this.

It's very similar to this.

It may or may not have been a slight inspiration.

Was there stairs going?

Was there an upstairs?

I feel like they had to have like depth.

Yeah, yeah.

You have to make characters, give them a better image.

They had the little short stairs.

That was the one thing I always, like growing up, I guess because our house was on one floor, I was always, like when I saw somebody had more than one floor of their house, I was like, they got money.

Yeah, they got more money than I do.

Yeah, I just got the one.

There's crawl space if you count that.

You can go under there.

It's got snakes.

You'll never come back.

No, you won't.

The one thing they could have done to Roseanne to make it more relatable was put them in a single wide trailer.

Yeah.

But where they're at, though, it's not as prominent as it is.

It's tough to shoot that, but I will give props to Boy Meets World because they did a lot of scenes in Sean's dad's trailer.

They had him in a trailer, and they did a good job.

That was a good-looking trailer.

It did not have the normal— There was a layout for 1980s trailers, which he would have been living in in that series.

They didn't follow that, but that would have been fantastic.

You essentially got to walk around the kitchen and get anywhere.

Absolutely.

There's a wall.

I'm talking about a two-thirds wall.

and it's cut open.

It's got to breathe through.

Yep, yep.

Everybody always puts their table right there up against it.

That's what I liked about the trailer part, too.

He would come in and his dad would be like sitting at the table, at the dining room table.

Always, yeah.

He'd walk straight into the dining room.

Yes.

It was realistic.

They did a good job with that one.

Sanford and Son had a good set.

Oh, it did.

Boy, it did.

Lamont.

He's a fool, man.

Full House was good.

That was a massive house.

Which it had to be.

But it was enormous yeah it did but that was a good that was a good set, I was trying to think of some more.

There was a lot of duds.

It was just like home improvement was pretty weak.

There wasn't a whole lot.

They never really showed a good angle.

Yeah.

It wasn't a traditional like setup.

It was just a 90s house.

Yeah.

Yeah.

The garage was cool.

Yeah.

Yeah.

The fact that it had a garage and he was out there working in it and stuff was cool.

Spend time in it.

Yeah.

That was different.

It's old time studio.

I think we're talking about the TGIF shows.

They all use the same sets and just swap them all out.

So they're all kind of just a generic living room.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Just decorate it different.

Blowing my mind right now man whoa man the best catchphrase this is you had the mistake of in the group chat being like i don't know and then we just bombarded yeah i couldn't think of any i was like i knew all that kept coming in my head was the bazinga guy yeah i'm saying that over and over i was like there's not anymore and then there's a lot it goes back to just like how big bang three ran everything in the ground like we were so tired of flat tracks and then like we were tired of catchphrases and they came up with bazinga yeah the worst catchphrase i've ever heard and they ran it in the ground yeah it's awful it's bad yeah.

Yeah, the Urkel, did I do that?

It's really good.

You got me cheese?

I forgot about that cheese.

Gange.

JJ from Good Time.

Was it Good Time's Dino Mike?

Yeah.

That was good.

Yeah.

That's a good mom.

Yeah, yeah.

What was her name?

I don't remember.

She was good.

That's a good mom in that show.

Never watched it.

Oh, it's good.

It's really good.

Uncle Joey's cut it out.

Yeah.

That full househead, everybody had a catchphrase.

I'm like, you said that and I looked it up because I was like, oh my gosh, you were right.

Danny didn't.

Uncle Jesse had, have mercy.

Have mercy.

Uncle Jesse had some.

Joey had cut it out and I think he had something else too.

Gibbler had something, didn't she?

Gibbler actually didn't.

Teneritos.

Yeah, she would say Teneritos.

Yeah, that's kind of one.

And DJ didn't have one.

Yeah.

The girls had, one of them had, How Rude.

Yeah, You Got It, Dude.

Something like that.

Yep, I forgot about those.

In the middle one had one too.

I think she said how rude sometimes too yeah Stephanie did yeah they just passed yeah yeah yeah she did that the little one said it because of her yeah they chock full the writers only had to write half the episode half of it's already written, plug plug in the catchphrases baby yeah articles that's my opinion the best, and then I guess you could call Fred Sanford's you know I'm coming home Elizabeth Florida that's such a good one that is good that is a good one yeah.

That's so good where are the Fonzies hey yeah We really peaked on catchphrases early in the sitcom era, and then we just went, it slowly went downhill from there and crashed and burned on Bazinga.

Bazinga is the end all.

Yeah, you don't want to let us do it again.

We're not doing this anymore.

They've killed it.

See, they tried so many with Boy Meets World.

I watched, they talked about it on their podcast.

They tried so many catchphrases with Corey, and like, they would never stick.

Really?

Yeah.

He never really had one, did he?

Not, no.

They tried when he was younger, and then when he was like a teenager and beyond, like, they just— That's a dumb thing.

Who in your normal life do you know that just has a catchphrase?

I think I need a catchphrase.

I think you just— But it's their way of you making it—you remember the characters, in my opinion.

I know, but it's goofy.

Well, what we did wouldn't have made sense, really.

I mean, I guess you could have shoehorned a catchphrase in when I was at It's a Southern Thing.

We were doing a video every week, you know, mostly featuring Adam and Talia.

And we one time Adam said like my pie and we all thought that was hilarious I don't even remember what the video was that we were like we're going to make that your catchphrase and it didn't work that's a tough one yeah very much so to work in a pie every episode, but we only wanted to make a catchphrase because in that moment the way he said it and I don't know why we were probably just delirious and ready to go home but it like cracked us all up so we were like we got to make him say my pie every time that may be where it comes from I'm like, you're just tired and it hits and you're like, let's do it again.

It doesn't work.

It doesn't work again.

No.

Something like that is probably only funny to y'all too.

One thousand percent.

We had a thing like if we're laughing too hard at something that we're making, we know it's going to bomb.

Yeah.

It's going to bomb hard.

That's probably safe.

We're like, we're having too much fun.

Just wrap it up.

Yeah.

It won't work.

This was great too.

And this is going to be opinions all over the board here, I think.

The jump the shark moment that ruined a show for you.

And it may not necessarily be like a university agreed upon jump the shark moment.

Yeah.

You know, that comes from the Happy Days episode where the Fonz literally jumped a shark.

And that's when I think audiences and critics were like, all right, this show's run out of ideas.

Yeah.

Yeah.

That's where it comes from?

Yep.

Really?

He literally jumped the shark.

He did, huh?

Mine's such a bad thing that it lives on forever.

Mine is probably the same as yours.

I know you mentioned it, but Roseanne, on Roseanne, when they win the lottery.

But more specifically, when Tom Arnold and Roseanne get married in real life, that was the downward spiral of Roseanne.

Because I think he started writing a little bit.

Yeah.

And it got bad.

Yeah.

It got bad.

But they win the lottery, and it just changes the entire vibe of the show.

But it's cool.

They don't move into a mansion or anything.

They just buy newer furniture and things like that.

So there was a lot of good writing in it.

But the characters got weird in that time period.

Mine was definitely How I Met Your Mother.

Like, the last season where he, it's like you spend all these, however many seasons there were, waiting for him to meet the mother.

And then the last season, she's in it.

And she's in it for like five, six episodes maybe.

And then it's just, it was such a perfectly written show.

And then they just screwed it up at the end.

How does that, I've never seen, like, how's that come about?

Who's the mother and everything?

It's a girl he meets at a train station after a wedding.

Oh, really?

Don't they, isn't the premise of the show they make you think it's going to be somebody else the whole time or something like that?

They make, throughout the whole show.

He dates several girls throughout the whole time.

Yeah, he dates several girls and you're like, okay, this one's not it or whatever.

And then he starts having like close encounters like crossing paths with that girl like he dates her roommate at one point.

He finds her umbrella at a club that she was at like it's just all this different stuff and I'm like just why'd you wait till the last few episodes to do this he was always in love with Robin was one of the main characters and that was kind of the, was kind of funny to me yeah what's kind of funny to me is though and I don't want to spoil everything but basically he goes, telling his kids the whole story and he's almost saying sorry I settled for your mother because I was in love with this other girl.

Yeah pretty much.

Oh really?

I mean that's pretty much how it ended.

That whole last season where they're at the wedding the whole time it was that's you know once it gets to that point I, Yeah, that's when I kind of was like, okay, let's just finish it just to finish it.

And then Marshall starts talking like a black lady for some reason every now and then.

Marshall's handed down the funniest character of that show to me.

He just develops that character.

Yeah.

I was trying to think about some 90s moments, but for me, it's more about when a character leaves.

I think it's on Home Improvement, Jonathan Taylor Thomas pretty much disappears.

I think to work on some other stuff, you don't see him as much, So you've only got, near the end, I feel like you've only got the youngest son, and he sucked.

Yeah, because the older ones started getting in trouble.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, he did.

He was getting arrested.

John the Daniel Thomas was playing Lion King, and the other one's going to jail.

Playing fucking thing.

Yeah, he did start going to jail a lot.

Yeah, he did.

Full house, when Jesse and Aunt Becky and the twins moved up to the attic, you're like, hey, got to hold on to the floor to this house.

How about that?

And then it became so much about those twins.

I was like, all right, y'all, we just did this with a shill growing up.

I'm tired of twins.

Enough.

Also, that's so rude to Mary-Kate and Ashley.

How rude.

How rude.

Yes.

Thank you.

You make them play the same character.

You never both give them screen time.

But then you let these other twins come in.

These twin boys.

They can actually be twins.

Yeah.

Yeah, that's wild.

Yes.

Wasn't that one of the shows that they had a baby, and then the next season they were like five years old?

Probably, because I really, you said that I don't remember being babies for very long.

They were babies, and then they had the bowl cuts.

Yeah.

I know they did that with a girl in pains because, you know, they had a little girl later on.

They had a baby, and then next year, she was like five.

Yeah.

I fully blame those twins for that bowl cut surge of popularity in the 90s.

Yeah, man.

Mid-90s.

Yeah, that was awful.

My cousins had them.

Boy, I had a bowl cut.

Like that?

It was early 80s, though.

It was before, so it was a long before.

You started the trend.

I did.

Yeah.

Full House is another show with a bad ending.

I think most people just stopped watching it before the last time.

Yeah, that's the bad ending.

Once Michelle starts being like a cognate human being, I'm like, yeah.

When she's self-aware, it's over.

How old did that character get on the show?

She was in grade school.

Oh, really?

Maybe 10.

Was she doing that long?

Oh, wow, really?

She was super popular.

You got to remember at that time that Mary-Kate and Ashley were doing these little, like, direct video things and just breaking in cash.

And that's one of the few actors or actresses that they kept it the whole time.

Usually when somebody has a baby, they change them out three or four times, you know, as they grow up.

She was so popular.

Yeah, they grew up on it.

Yeah, because they were starring in their own movies and stuff, like, three or four years old, it seems like.

Their Halloween movie still holds up.

And they produced almost all of that, too.

Yeah.

As children.

They apparently did a pretty good money that they don't.

Well, one of them's in fashion.

I mean, both of them do fashion.

I think they're both in fashion.

They have no interest in doing TV or movies at all anymore.

They go with it.

No, no.

Their sister's the one who's staying acting.

They didn't even do it.

God bless her.

Yeah.

They didn't do reunions or anything afterwards.

Yeah.

And I could.

Oh, they didn't, did they?

They didn't do the.

That was actually pretty good.

The reboot.

The Fuller House.

Yeah.

It wasn't terrible.

I watched the first season, but I don't even know if it continued.

It had a lot of.

More corny trying to be modern day corny kind of stuff in it if you could reboot like they did that with Fuller House if you could reboot one like I was very disappointed in the reboot of Girl Meets World, oh I never I never watched it yeah outside of the nostalgia moments it was suck all they did was launch Sabrina Carpenter's career yeah oh yeah she was on that oh she was she was the Sean of the show yeah that's right, It's kind of like they did with that 70s show they did.

Was it the 90s show?

That lasted one season?

Yeah.

And it was like they had the original characters in it, but it's more about their kids or whatever.

Yeah.

You'd think they'd learn.

Hey, let's just leave it where it is.

Nobody wants to see a continuation of it.

You got to try and make a little bit more money.

Yeah.

You got to squeeze a penny.

It sounds like a good idea until you watch it and it's like, okay, we can't catch the same magic we did.

Hey, you know what?

Studios just launched a rewatch podcast.

let the characters talk about it truly that's the way to go man hey a big moment I think you might have also said this one too we agreed on was the when they added was it Wade on Officer Wade on Andy Griffith replaced Barney and it went and it colorized too yeah honestly that was the end once Andy Griffith's in color I don't want to watch the episode no and Barney's gone yeah but he's in some color episodes isn't he I think maybe the last one he was yeah maybe something like that but he was a yeah they replaced him with that was it warren or what warren yeah warren warren but then he was another character that just disappeared one day and was never and you know what else there's a guy on there that plays about three different characters too and i think howard sprague played a different character he did he was like an insurance salesman or something that came on one yeah and then became a full-on character, but yeah they did that with the guy that i think he ran like a butcher shop or something like that Maybe he was one of the guys that was on the outside of town selling produce and made Barney, like, run away.

And Andy got him to think that he was, like, they were afraid of him and all that.

He was one of those guys, too.

They get cocky.

When you, can you successfully replace a goober with a gomer?

That's all you do.

Then you can do whatever you want.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I've tried that.

It's hard.

It is.

Is it?

Yeah, you do.

The goober's hard?

Thanks.

We got, oh yeah, we got to wrap this up here.

We got lightning round cut up here.

We can do what we want to, Matt.

No, we can't.

We can't.

We don't have a producer anymore, so we can just go wild.

Yeah, we have no idea.

Talking about changing characters.

This is good.

Yeah, it's Joey's jumping shark.

This thing's going downhill.

I think you brought this up in the chat.

that the annoying tropes of sitcoms.

Eric, I think you said going through bedroom window.

I did that.

You said that.

Oh, you said that.

Going through, which was great.

Going through the bedroom window of your friend's house.

Which happened, like, you said that and I immediately thought of two.

Screech always visits Zach going through the window.

So did Jessie.

Oh, she did, yeah.

Yeah.

And Corey would, I mean, Sean would bust up in Corey's room through the window there too.

Didn't they have a two-story house?

How did that work?

They had a tree house.

Oh, okay.

Yeah, climbing trees.

Yeah.

Always climbing trees.

Yeah, they always had tree houses.

And a friend was always getting you in trouble, too.

Yeah.

Yeah, that was your troublesome friend.

Maybe that's why they were coming in the window.

There was a show I used to watch on Nickelodeon called Clarissa Explains It All.

It was Melissa Johnhart.

Yes.

The Sam.

Wasn't that his name?

Her friend.

Did she come in the window, too?

No, the dude friend.

Oh, that's not good.

You'd see the ladder clap up on there.

That's right.

And he'd come up into the window.

I do remember that.

You ain't supposed to do that.

No.

apparently you could in the 90s yeah I thought of some others lights are always on in the house when people come home like nobody ever turns the lights out yeah just always on yeah nobody ever goes to the bathroom nobody poops, nobody peeps no one ever says goodbye when they're on the phone they just hang up like oh that's a big one too mm mm.

Why'd they act so weird back then, man?

Why?

Didn't Joey come through Dawson's window all the time, too?

Wasn't that a thing?

Do you think that, encountering the parents, anxiety for them was when, like, us, we would call our friends and be like, God, I hope their mom or dad don't answer?

That was mine.

God, yeah.

Oh, yeah.

That's why I don't answer the phone now.

You calling me?

Did y'all have your own thing you would say every time?

Like, I was always, may I speak to whatever.

yeah oh always time yeah if it depending on who it was if it's a girl it's it's always may i speak with yeah so and so if it was my buddy and like i knew their mom or dad picked the phone i was like oh is brad there yeah that was some parents you would call and say that and they just hang up on you they that's disrespectful no not if i know no no no but i'm saying back in the day when The caller ID became a thing, and they'd see your name, and they'd be like, oh, yeah, it's probably Drake.

But when you said that, you always risk a smart-eyed dad that was like, yeah, what you want.

Yeah, what else you need?

Well, I'm close enough to like, if you gave me that back, I would appreciate it.

Then I'd give you something else back.

Oh, the worst part is when— Only that level of friendship would I do that.

The worst part was when they wanted to have a conversation with you while they were taking the phone to whoever you were calling.

Yes, that's, again, that's close friend.

Yeah.

That's why you don't ask to call anybody or anything.

Yeah, that's not a girl.

You would hope you don't get that.

Calling a girl on that?

Jesus.

The word.

Kids these days will never understand.

Could you imagine how easy it would be just to text them back then?

No, you just use the latter.

It was bad enough.

That's true.

Yeah.

You know where she lives?

It's going in her window.

It's fine.

It's fine.

My generation got a taste of that with AOL and some messengers.

You just had to hope that they were online when you were on.

Oh, you get that new girlfriend, you'd be like, I can't online.

You hear that door creak open.

Look at your list.

Oh, there she is.

Close.

Back out.

All right.

Dial up.

We won't be talking to them tonight, I guess.

All right.

We got our lightning round here.

We asked the audience on Facebook, give us your most unhinged 90s sitcom opinion.

Like, we just left it wide open.

and like, go take it wherever you want to.

And a lot of them were like, out of the 90s, that's where I'm going to take it.

But I wrote a few down.

We're going to try to get through as many of them as we can starting right now.

We've got Mandy Tubbs-Timing says, I always wonder where all the Saved by the Bell kids' parents were.

Yes, we'd see some of them on an episode or two, but these kids are out here getting threatened lawsuits over spaghetti sauce, crashing down on caffeine pills, dating their bosses, and partying with the Johnny Dakota.

I mean, Zach Attack would have made it big with a little support.

Yeah.

I agree with all that.

I agree with all that.

The Hawaii episode, no parents.

No.

Let all these teenage kids just go to Hawaii.

Hawaii.

Unsupervised.

With the principal?

Oh, no.

He was just there.

No, he was just the owner, that short, balding, chubby guy that had an Italian, it was like Italian accent or what's his name?

Sound.

There you go.

Good guess.

You know, he strikes me as a sound.

I do like this though.

I would encourage anyone that remembers Zach Attack, the band that they made.

Yeah.

To just Google Zach Attack real instruments.

Oh my God.

Somebody figured out the chords they were playing and the keyboard and they matched it.

Oh man.

Oh my.

Funniest thing you'll.

You just might as well be just smashing the chords.

Yeah.

The song hilarious.

It's like keyboard cap.

It's like that.

Yeah.

I remember being really stupid.

Oh, so bad.

And somebody did a guitar one with, Zach Morse's fingers like they were doing that.

And he was just sliding his hand up and down.

He's like, I gotta look that up.

Oh, Amber Shuey said, the best show ever was Roseanne.

My mom aspired to be just like her.

The show made me feel like I wasn't alone in having a dysfunctional yet kind of wonderful childhood.

Yes.

Amen, Amber.

Amen, for sure.

That's, that's put perfectly right there.

Christy Bourne says, any remember the episode of Full House when Stephanie drives a literal car into the side of the house?

Yes.

And then just makes it a little nice talk with dad and it's all okay.

Yeah.

I always had like a wrong moment.

Yeah.

Well, mistakes happen.

Yeah.

It'll be okay.

See the sad music.

If I would have done that, I would, they'd still talk about it to me every day.

They didn't know at that time, but Stephanie was on crystal meth.

My dad would have put a stop sign in front of his house.

I'm like, hey, remember to stop here.

Yeah.

Actually, he wouldn't have a car.

I wouldn't be allowed to drive ever again.

And I would have rebuilt that part of the house.

Oh my gosh.

If you destroyed the house, I broke a window one time and that was bad enough.

And how does the rest of that house not kind of come down a little bit?

Yeah, true.

You jacked up the foundation.

Well, when you got a house, the side of the full house, you know.

That house was full that day.

Danny Tanner's Comet, whatever it was.

Yeah, it was his little car.

Reanie Beanie.

Says, Frazier is still hilarious to this day.

He's a whiny.

Ooh.

Frazier is hilarious to this day, but the amount of alcohol that he, his brother, and dad consume makes me think that they were all high-functioning alcoholics.

They were.

They were drinking wine all the time.

I mean, Frazier spent his first 10 years at the Cheers bars.

He did.

He never left the bar.

That's true.

Yeah, that's true.

His liver is shot.

That is a good show, though.

Frazier is a great show.

Highly underrated.

Kaylee Adair says, I know the economy was way better than the 90s, but the houses they had on these shows were huge.

I know Danny Tanner probably made a decent salary as a TV host, but that house was massive for a single dad with three girls, especially before Joey and Jesse came along.

And they probably weren't paying rent.

No, Jesse was a musician that hardly ever was out of town playing gigs.

Yeah, he thought he was Elvis.

So he was more of a local guy.

They don't make hardly anything.

Joey was a comedian.

Struggling.

A bad one.

His most steady job was on a TV show where he was a puppeteer for a beaver.

Ranger Joe.

Then they went into business together, Brighton Jingles, like the other guy y'all talked about.

Oh, yeah.

Oh, well, in that case, he's a multi-millionaire.

Makes sense now.

Kerry Lowry, the transformation from Steve Urkel to Stefan Urkel showed some next-level acting chops.

Yeah.

Tell you what, I was a certain age that I remember that episode vividly, and it blew my mind.

Yeah.

When he came out of that machine, you're like, whoa.

You're like, what?

That's not him?

That's the...

Yeah, it blew my mind.

He's slick now.

What happened?

I still remember the audience reaction to that.

If you go back and watch it They went nuts It's like they thought He was really Bro I had the biggest crush On Laura, Yeah.

Did you?

Boy, yeah.

That's what I'm talking about.

Didn't he also...

Aunt Rachel's wearing it.

Didn't he also play like his...

I like Hillary.

Gangster cousin, G-Bone or something in one episode.

G-Bone or something like that.

I can't remember.

I'm going to look that up.

Bone Thugs in Harmony?

Yeah, something crazy.

Let me see.

Oh, coming up real quick here.

Dakota uttered, The End of Dinosaurs was the most unhinged editing ending to a sitcom ever.

God, I can't even remember.

I don't remember it either.

the it's the the great ice age yeah yeah they die oh all the dinosaurs die wow they don't show it but it's like here's the meteorite and it's like and that's how it ends for all like looking out the window yeah something like it glows on his face there was some crazy episodes the roid episode where he starts growing spikes yeah dude that not the mama thing is still iconic yeah That's not a good catchphrase.

There's a catchphrase.

That was my favorite saying as a kid.

Yeah, beating him with that spoon.

Hey, you know what?

Him and John Goodman dress the same.

He always wore that flannel thing.

Yeah, he's like the dinosaur version.

I guarantee he's based on Dan.

Also, if you go back and try to rewatch dinosaurs, oh my God.

It's bad.

It does not hold up in the slightest bit.

But in the moment, as a kid, I thought it was fantastic.

Yeah, it's original.

It's good costuming.

It is.

That was not bad.

Those are good characters.

Actually, too.

Also, what's great, go back and watch Alf, and you have to remember, like, there's a little man in there.

Yeah.

That's something else.

That's funny.

I love that.

That makes Alf interesting to rewatch.

You're just like, wow, look at that guy.

Look at him.

That is, yeah.

Is it Webster?

But you know what?

Maybe.

Those are the 80s, baby.

Anything goes.

There we go.

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