Hi, everybody.

Welcome to a I t a pod.

I'm Dandy Vega, joined by returning guests, our lovely duo Aisha and Gotti.

Yay every time, and I forget it's gonna happen.

I know.

It's just being around people you love.

That's adorable.

I was trying to think of some drama for you, guys, but I really I don't know.

It's been a drama free era.

That's I'm back on the apps, okay, and guys, it's really weird the I'm getting a lot of attention.

I r L on the apps.

I don't know what I'm doing right.

You've got your soul is reflecting like a better energy.

There you go, there you go.

It's crazy.

I'm getting like a hinge like a day which I don't know.

I don't know you wish you never, neither of you.

But for me that I was getting alike maybe a week back in the day, you know, when I was first year and I was really lonely and desperate.

On hinges maybe like the app cans a sense.

In question, Yeah, like on hinge?

What does that mean that it's like a like on Instagram photo?

Or is is it more like they're connecting with you.

Guys are cute.

You're like, we don't know what's a hinde?

Hut on when you got a squeaky do you change hind change the hinge?

What is the function of a hint forty?

Basically, if you're a woman, you'll get like I think it's pretty typically get three likes a day, easily five likes.

If you want a relationship, you'd use like a hinge.

There's one called Field.

Sexy Time, right, yeah, it's well, yeah, it's a couple of looking.

It was initially made for like kink, like people who want to unicorner or whatever like a third and then I'll run into profiles there and it's like I'm looking for a serious monogamous relationship and I'm like, then look for a different app why.

Like then it's come full circle, like everyone's like diving into kink and then so far in that now being monogamous is king.

I don't Oh my.

God, you are than the people who are doing that.

Marriage.

I actually here's my here's my theory.

I think that people doing that do actually know on some level that makes no sense because like it makes no sense, like if you go through some profiles, like almost none of them are going to say that because that's not the point.

You don't even have to show your face on that one, right, Yeah.

Yeah, people also a picture of a beach.

I'm like, beach.

People just showed like physic like just honestly showed whole on that one, like come over for them.

Wow, I think that's I think that's the gay apps.

I was talking to a Bye woman about it, so I don't know.

Maybe i'm thinking of it.

Maybe it's a different, less known app.

Maybe she's just on craigs.

I don't know what she's on.

I've never seen girls I know on like Sniffy's or whatever it's called.

Wow, what is the world?

I think it's is this like dog sniffing butt?

Is that?

Like?

But is that what it's like referencing?

It's a cruising app, so it's definitely for.

Not for people who like cruises.

No, I don't think that's what that is.

So sweet Eye shows corrupted.

It is.

I never thought of this, Like gay men have a term for hooking up, which like does make it seem kind of classic, like, oh, we're not just like having like we're cruising exactly.

Gay men get to they hook up so much more I feel like than the others.

Well, I think it's more like.

You're more open and there's like more of an understanding.

And they also don't get pregnant.

That's true.

The platform's name is right from the idea of sniffing out or locating nearby people for potential hookups.

Oh wow, I thought it was something sniffing butts, dog snipping butts.

I thought it was like the smell of my fingers.

First of all, I say that, like you know that thin and I'm like, I don't know what the thing is.

And I think I understand in every nineties movie there's some gross guys.

Yeah, like you can identify its like a time a character like in Time.

Yeah, yes, terrible.

Okay, here's an ick I have on the dating apps, and I think you guys will be on board.

It's I'm really funny when someone posts that, Yeah, well, I don't know if guys do it, because I don't look at guys.

Guys they're funny.

I believe it.

I'm really funny.

I'm like, please, at least have a sophistication to say.

My friends say I'm really funny, because I'm like, yeah, guy, your friends say that's.

Something I make, like profile funny.

I like a good time to me tells me you might be funny, like because you're like you're chilling.

Oh yeah, I pro I like a good time.

I feel like if someone makes their profile funny, they don't need to say I'm funny.

It's like I'm smart.

You're like, well, do smart people say that?

Yes?

Exactly know they don't.

It's I think it hits us particularly upsetting because like, as comedians, people are always coming up and telling you, well, people say I'm funny.

Yeah, It's like, okay, bit you get in line, then I go up there, yeah, go do it right now then yeah.

And also I'm not sure that I would be looking for someone whose claim is I'm funny because as comedians, who we know we're funny because we go and we get told we're funny.

We tell jugs, people laugh.

I'm not funny all the time.

I don't want to be with someone who's like always like trying.

That's like a turn off.

Yeah, you're like, I have many things to do today.

Yeah, I'm like, I'm an actual human being who has like other emotions other than just like riffing.

And gags, you know.

Yeah, I want someone that is like interesting and wants to chat and bantering, yes and and all that stuff too, but like, yeah, can we also talk about the universe place?

I think if someone says I'm funny to me, it reeks, I'm lonely a little bit, like yeah, because they're.

In and it's so sad.

I'm so in your right.

Yeah, because they're always trying.

Oh they're trying.

Yeah, and they're trying to get you, and usually they're upsetting you know, it's like uncomfortable.

It's wildly uncomfortable.

Oh brutal.

Okay, here's another one that I think it's going to.

Go back and like all the.

Like just say you're alone.

It's really sad though.

It's like it's not super common, but I'll see it, like one in every twenty profiles.

I would say, yeah, I want someone who's obsessed with me.

Oh no, that's bad.

Yeah, something you say no, No, it's you think inside your head and you get mad and it doesn't happen.

There we go.

Yeah, No, that's like I mean, I mean, okay, now let me just say this as I've said that very revealing thing about myself like, obviously I want someone who's like thinks I'm the best or whatever, but I would never say that, And then it makes me think like or is that thick that like I'm not willing to say it, and maybe this person is just really honest, like, look, I want some who I'm going to be their priority and big bang boom.

But it then like that's not going to work.

But it's just more honest.

But it sounds like you probably don't really mean obsession.

Right, I'm not obsessed, like it's particularly but you're like you want the affection and you want them to be like, oh my god, you're so hot, babe.

What I really want to think is I want someone who's right or die.

Yeah, that's what I'm looking for.

And I think that's like for me, it's like that's being obsessed in that like I'm always going to have your back no matter what, right, and I'm not going to question it.

I'm always in And I think that's because I didn't get that as a kid.

So it's like that's the that's the therapy.

That's the therapy side of it, right, Is.

That Are you one of those couples where like if you say something and then I'm like, no, I should that's crazy, the shed is unreasonable.

Then your husband would be like, I agree with her.

I agree that my husband, love you, babe, is not really like that.

You guys, I should Oh, if you're not watching, I should finger.

That's our love leg bage.

Okay, guns, My husband is definitely not like that.

And that's almost like a point where I have to like come to terms with the fact.

Is that's why you said And I get that you were like, he's not what you say out loud, but it's what you get that totally ok because he's.

Not he's not a person who's like he's not aggressive, he's not like super assertive.

He's like a white dude who works in spaces where he's like doing community building with people who are brown and black.

So he's very much like, I'm not important here, I'm not going to be Yeah, he's a very good listener.

He's very good at like putting other people's needs before his.

But I think that that also, like I'm like, that's great, except for with me.

Then you must always make sure that I am number one with your life.

And that is like how he feels.

But it's not how he outwardly acts.

All the time, right, So his job is to be like neutral, yeah, and.

Like nuanced and stuff and hear everyone's side.

So if you did that, he wouldn't be like no muggiruls rud or anything like that in general.

But one time, and this is where it were like it came down to.

It was like this man.

We were at the park and we had booked it for one of our kids birthday parties, and there was this like roided out dude in the area that we had booked and he was training some old skeletor lady.

Yes, I said it, and she was like a hundred and then I was like, we had booked it.

So my parents went there like.

Wait, sorry, I just can we just stop?

Is just that a like a man, like a middle aged man.

Like a young thirty huge, huge roid guy was training like she's doing exercises.

He's training her like personal a.

Very old woman.

Yes, I've never seen that.

So many parks in my area, it's like people do outdoor training and I think it's a lot like a hot man.

It's almost like.

Okay, we're getting there.

Charging like two hundred dollars.

A huge age gap never.

Never, I've never read that to go to the ball park, like fifty five to thirty five, sure, but not like you're talking about like sixty five seven.

Like maybe she wasn't that old, but she looked.

She looked.

I feel I see a lot of friends training friends.

Anyways, keep going.

So this anyway, my parents went there to set up and the guy like wouldn't leave.

So I come out and I was like, all these like like four year olds are going to be showing up, and he's like got stuff everywhere, and so I was like, hey, we booked this area.

We just need you to like literally like move like over there.

Because this is where the picnic table is, is where we're setting up.

Sure, and he like refused and he's like, well, then show me the permit.

So I was like okay, So I showed him the permit and he like got in my face and started being like we're almost done, and I was like, no, we've booked it since nine it's not nine forty, Like.

You need to leave.

People are showing up, and he wouldn't.

He refused to leave, and I was like, we need this bench and area and his stuff was all over it.

So he's like, well, then move it.

And I had this moment where I was like, all right, so I picked up this stuff and like.

Went like this and dropped them and then ye, and I was holding my baby in my face and like chest bumped me.

Oh, Josh, and he knows better than to like step in front and try and take over for me, because I was riled right, and I'm like now I'm like flight.

He took the baby and I like said okay, like let's go.

Yeah, was like and I.

Started like yelling back at him.

And then I was like someone filmed this because I was like no, no, and then so he's then Josh Putt gave my mom the baby and then he came back and the guy looks at Josh and he goes, you better tell your lady to shut the.

Fuck up, and he goes, I'm not telling her ship.

Sorry, But I was just like that was the moment where I was like, oh no, he's got my back in a way that like suits me, where he's not going to step in front.

But he's very much like no, no, no, no, no, I'm not gonna let anyone talk to her like that.

But she's got her own and I'm right behind her to do this anyway.

He eventually I told him I was going to call the police, and I took a picture of his license plate, and he cleaned up his ship and he left.

But I was like, I stared him down.

I was like, I was so adrenaline.

Baby, Yeah, Josh came the baby.

This is a movie.

Josh is also not Josh.

The man is lucky that Josh came and grabbed the baby, because I think what would have proceeded to happen is you would have whooped his ass one handedly holding That would have been more embarrassed.

He didn't seem to be.

Scared of being aggressive to a child, which was scary to me.

At one point, he picked up one of his like dumbbells and threw it against the fence that was right there where like there were kids.

So that's why I was like, That's when I was like, call the police.

And then like and then he like.

Quickly realized I think what was happening that like people were witnessing and people were taking video, and I had his license plate, and he like packed up a ship and left, and then skeletory lady was like, is this what she wanted?

This is how you're gonna raise your kids, And I just went off on her.

It was it was like, honestly the most like terrifying and exhilarating like moment of my life where I was like, oh, I'm a mama bear for sure, like I will fight you to the death because I'm trying to protect my kids and like no questions about it anyway, my mom, this story.

Is too good.

This episode just became main we just have to go out.

Oh.

Like I had a whole moment to where I was like, what was I going to do against this huge juice up dude?

And then I thought, I was like, you can juice up as much as you want, your balls never get stronger.

I was like chicken in the nuts.

Yeah, that's the Like why why are any juice up dudes ever confident?

Like if you don't wearing a cup at all times, why are you ever now.

Any But he bumped against you, I mean that's he assaulted.

Fielding a baby.

I mean that's just what do you even say to that?

Also, like that skeletal lady was for sure fucking him right, Like why else would you stand by that?

Is there money there?

Wild?

Is there?

What?

Is there money there, which.

I mean I don't know.

I mean if you don't know.

If so, how did she survive it?

Like he was like, how did he survive it?

Mentally as well?

Sorry, I'm being horrible back Gleatar showed herself when she stood by it.

I should have been added, she should have been like, you're right, let's move.

I would have been so embarrassed.

I feel like the same iss she should.

Have felt embarrassed because this dude was like like on the wrong side, going off the rails around, rowing and like grow.

The fuck up.

Guy.

Sounds nuts?

What a story.

Yeah, I have that too, though, where I like where I'm more aggressive between the two of us, and it can be a hard dynamic, but you need it, you need someone more chill.

Yes, totally.

But it's hard sometimes to like translate in their head how they react to things, you know what I mean, Because my my thought is like, let's fuck, let's shut it down, shut it down, let's go, you know, and his is like, let's breathe.

And I'm like breathings for babies, Like.

I'm chill most of the time, but then I like pop off and Josh is like more like he's like at a different level.

But he's like that no matter what.

Yeah, and then it takes a lot.

But then when he does pop off, it's kind of scary.

It's kind of better though.

I think it's better if the woman is a it'll move forward because like you have to be a true psychopath to I mean, this guy, the fact that he bumped you already is so crazy to me.

But I have a I have a friend person I know he super jacked does like whatever martial arts, is really good at it.

And I was like and like he like went to the next level.

I forgot, Like he's like in the advanced class now or whatever.

And I was like, so now that you're so like badass, like what would you do like in a fight?

And he said run And I was like, A he's like because there's He's like, you don't want to do that your career exactly, you ruin your life.

You could be bumped on your head.

Even like martial artist that is he a martial artist or is he like a weightlifter?

He was like, I think he was a weightlifter and now he's like martial arts.

I forgot what it's called.

Nothing comes from fighting, even I like new martial artist, especially like in college, there was like a lot of crossover between like martial artists and m and they were like, oh yeah, if you're in a fight, like disarm and run, Like this isn't like a match, you know.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's not if you're doing a sport and that's the sport of it.

Sure, but like there's no other real reason for it.

I mean, I've never been in a fight in my life and that's it.

As a kid, I'd get into rumbles.

I was a little tough and rumble.

Yeahottie, Yeah.

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A I t A made people uncomfortable at a coffee shop.

I'm a thirty six year old man.

My local coffee shop has a set of five leather chairs that are more comfortable than the rest of the chairs.

We love a good chair.

When I got there, three men around sixty were sitting in three of the chairs talking.

I squeezed past them into a fourth chair, pulled out my headphones and started listening to a pod.

I don't know and don't care what they were talking about.

Maybe ten minutes after I sat down.

What of the men mentioned they were uncomfortable with me being in on their conversation.

I told him I wasn't in on it.

I was willing to move, but the other two men with him decided it was time for them to leave, so they got up and left.

Was I an asshole for entering their conversation in a public seating area?

What?

Wait a minute, So he sat down on a fourth chair that was not like that's just near where they were.

There are five chairs together.

Okay, Oh, he put in his pods and was listening to his thing.

Yeah, And the men then were like this dude's listening in let's look.

Yeah, no, that seems like crazy expectation for him to not sit next to them.

I guess.

I'm like, do we know for sure there were no other chairs?

And also those are the comfy chairs?

Oh, those are the comfy There.

Are the comfy chairs.

So nobody.

So this one is a little bit of like reading between the lines because I read this and I was like, I don't like this guy.

I don't like what he did.

Really.

I feel like what he did was criminal in nature.

Okay, so why because he shouldn't sit next to people?

Just something about he's had a set of five leather chairs, like, oh, so they are together, and like, yeah, you kind of intruded on their bubble, you know, I.

Don't think are these chairs in a circle?

Oh that's what I was thinking, same question.

So we have answers to the questions, but I want us to just delve in a little bit before we get to it.

I feel like what my initial response was, I would also not enjoy if someone that if I was having a group conversation, all of a sudden someone sat in and obviously they weren't a part of it.

They were in their podcast.

But I don't know.

If I'd be like, this guy is a dick, I'd be like, well, it is a public space, yeah, and I probably would be like what it's assigned to Moseyon now, Like I'd probably be like, let's go for a walk or like you know, or just like try maybe try and maintain and be like what the fuck is this good doing it?

And then like, yeah, it's weird because like so much of the context is important to me.

I'm like, if I'm in a coffee shop in Manhattan and it's full and it's fool, it's like, yeah, I mean, there's kind of no rules in the context.

But if it's like I've immamined the Starbucks in Casagan day, you know, my small Arizona town, and someone does this, I'm like, okay, that's a fucking serial killer has sat down.

Yeah, slowly back away.

I feel like the reason this person said the comfy chairs is to emphasize like perhaps the other seating options sucked, and this is their local where they go all the time.

Yeah, and they sit in these chairs, so they're like, okay, cool, there's an empty one.

I wonder what they were talking about that they were so concerned someone was close, because if you're talking about something super private, you don't go to a public place and sit inside and talk about it.

But isn't that don't you just feel violated, just like why are you sitting so close to us?

I think if the rest of Yeah, one time and my sister went with like a group of friends to see a movie and it was an empty movie theater and a man came and sat right next to her.

Yeah, yeah, and we were pretty sure there was like water on that seat before he sat down, and then he like stay.

Like water perfect.

Perfect.

It was very busy, like the whole rest of the movie was full and like was empty, was empty, and he sat right next to her and like he did nothing, but it also sat like through an empty like a wet chair.

I can't remember.

I could have sworn.

We were like there's like buckets, like yeah, like it was something so busy.

He's pushing the popcorn into it.

Yeah, because we were like I think think we all like clocked and we were like huh.

And but then it was like I guess, I don't know, maybe he did like buy, maybe that was like the assign sign or something, but it was weird.

Oh that would change my answer though.

Because like sign seating, I feel like that's a newer thing I'd never hate.

And I think people sit in their seat and then sometimes if it's empty, they'll.

Move and go.

Anxious and then you're like, what if somebody shows up and then they're gonna thing.

I do get I get that because Mark is like when we get an assigned seat and like Timus before the movie, no one's there, He's like, let's move around, Like no, because then we're gonna move again exactly, get care and then ten minutes in maybe we'll move.

But I guess yeah, but yeah, I mean there's certain things people do that it's like, here's what I think.

I think we go back to lonely on that.

I'm kind of like, you know, he knows it's wrong, right on some level he knows you don't do that, but it's like he wants something to happen.

See.

I feel like this is again going back to the shed, where it's like, we don't know this guy's thinking.

He probably was just like cool, this is where I sit all the time and there's no one.

Well, those are probably the best seats, right, because you chose.

Like, besides, that pretty hard in the beginning, they're still being set down.

It makes direct icon.

Well, but in the theater, though, I do see it, right, because that's an argument I would make.

I'm like, yes, but there's usually pretty much an ideal row, and then obviously you want to be in the middle.

Yeah, okay, I want to say the reference we were at the way back in a very small theater.

Is that too crazy to assume?

Okay, so if we're talking about the theater, I'm on board where I think it is strange because a theater has more than more like a coffee shop has fewer seats.

Usually a theater has a lot of seats and like a lot of options, and obviously the middle, center middle is obviously the best.

But like would you.

Well, no, actually I have a counter argument.

Now you sat in the very back.

Maybe you guys are the psycho exactly.

He was like, oh, these guys are psycho too.

We'll sit in the back and be evacuating.

It was just weird that he would sit there because he yeah, and it was right by her.

Okay, here's where we could go to ricci logic because it's almost like right, it's almost like you're sitting next to so it's almost like begging for attention and connection.

Right.

Do you ever ever be driving and someone drives right next to you and it's like do you want to be my friend?

And get away from it?

On the highway.

I'm so bad at noticing me too.

I'm like call me and be like I'm here.

I'm like yeah, yes, And I was like, Okay, is that looking at me, Jake Psycho?

Yeah, wait, they're in the car.

They're in the car, yeah, being like dude, I'm behind you.

I've been waving yeah yeah, yeah, Well I was busy driving my car.

I thought one time I was driving and I randomly saw you on the street and like yelled out.

Of my window.

This was like before we were even really friends.

I think I remember it was like some random I thought about this just the other day and I was like, wow, it was me or not because I was hanging out my window driving past fast crazy and I was like, oh my god, that's this is a.

Sign that this is a sign we're friends.

I think going to movie theater, I think you just say hey, I just want you to know, like I have a reserve seat or like, is it okay if you don't have a reserve seat, Hey, is it okay?

If I sit here?

This is kind of like the optimals seat.

Yeah.

When I'm doing that, if I sit next to people for some reason, I'll often be like, sorry, this is just like it's the best way to see your door or something like that.

You know, the best way to see the door?

Are you one of those people?

Sometimes I'm a very energy person sometimes and like the energy means I need to sit this way, like it's very Josh always laughs at me because I have a very specific seat I always want to be in when we walk in a restaurant.

But I will say this that I have been in the theater where someone sits next to me weirdly and then they turn on and talk to you, and it's exactly that thing where you're like they just they're like, oh, I want to like have a friend because they've come by themselves and they want to get back.

Ever had that hat, I would like be like and I'm moving my seat.

Yeah, Like I would be like absolutely not.

I'm paid to see a movie.

Okay, yeah, let's play it out.

Got it.

You're in a theater alone?

What what movie would have be.

A movie alone Superman for the third time Superman Memberman, Have you seen it?

Okay, So I said, I say in front of you, I'm looking back.

Hey, I don't know.

I'm like, come to Marvel.

Movies and I'd be like, it's DC and I believe.

Local Man.

Local Man walks into the Pacific Ocean and after brutally shut down.

I like Superman especially.

Yeah, I've had I remember I had a guy.

I was like at a table and a man sat down and started being like, oh, like trying to talk to me, and he was like, are you writing right now?

I was like, I am writing, Yeah, why would you talk to me?

Yeah?

He was like he was like should I leave?

I'm like yeah, like I'm not doing I don't know you.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I'm very like I talk to people all the time, and I allow people to talk to me all the time, and I always get into a situation where I'm like I should not have started.

Yeah, I can't imagine.

Especially you have like a very bright to use.

I mean, whenever I'm wearing orange, people are gonna come talk.

I feel like.

Or is a friendly color.

It is a friendly color.

It's like an inviting color.

So op finally caught I had all these suspicions, so you think I'm crazy.

You know how to read between the lines.

A little weird, And I also will say I forgot what I was gonna say.

I don't know if I would have sat there.

Opie then finally replies, the chairs are arranged in a circle.

They can be moved apart if people want to face each other.

More, these guys are right in the middle of the area, more or less occupying the whole thing.

No table, replies someone in the middle.

There is a table, so they're literally he literally sat at their table.

And then he says, but it's not like these chairs are around a table, like a set of table and chairs.

It's definitely meant for multiple groups to share the area as opposed to being for a single group.

Really a five top Okay, it's a reach.

So I feel like he Okay, what are you going to say?

I was going to say, I think that the circle makes it a lot more intimate because he's facing that worse, no matter where you're sitting, you're facing the other people.

I still, if I were the other group, if that conversation was so private, I didn't want people to hear, I would not have an inside at a coffee shop where there's chairs for people.

If you don'tant people to sit there, put your bag on it.

Be an asshole.

Yeah, put your bag on the chairs and be like we're taking that's crazy.

You don't have to do that if you if you go anywhere, I think.

You should because that's a common area and those chairs.

Like your time would be.

Go to Starbucks at a two top, you're going to cover the other chair.

It's like two top is different though, I think it's a five top and there's three guys.

There, he said.

Specifically, it's not five chairs around a table like a five top.

He said, it's just chairs that are meant to be shared by different groups.

We just disagree so much on everything.

He's trying to paint a picture.

He says, it's not like these chairs are around a table like a set of tables and chairs.

It's definitely meant for multiple groups to share the area.

Yeah, that's he's just saying.

It's bullshit.

There's a table in the middle and there's five chairs.

A table like this, right, and it's a coffee table.

But that's I don't think that there's saying if it's leather chairs, there's there's no way there's.

A table two one two, Yeah, that's still kind of functionally a table.

Actually, I mean I I think I could go back to where is this?

Is it in the suburbs or is in the herbs, because that kind of does affect my answer.

Yeah, I feel like I need to know how busy the shop was.

I need to know how bad.

Like I will say, circle round tip, I'm like, okay, yeah.

But then it's also it's like like I feel like there are coffee shops that have this exect setup where there is we're on a couch fu coffee table, and I feel like this would serve for multiple groups.

Yes, I that's what I'm imagining.

Yeah, because it's what I'm imagining if there were but if there were seven people and then two people sat over there, like I'm pointing across the way, If two people joined a seven group people on the couch and they were like, oh, there's a little bit of room, It's like, one, I guess how busy is it?

And two I think I'd also be like, I mean, I guess it's public, Like who am I to not?

I'd love that there's not a lot.

Of others seats, or if the other seats are like like I'm imagining in this coffee shop, it's pretty small ish.

Let's say it's on a huge spot and that the other chairs because he emphasized so much at the beginning that these are the comfee chairs, that the other one is maybe like wooden tall stools, right, and like that's not comfortable to sit.

In for a long period of time.

That's a nightmare.

So obviously you're gonna want one of these ones.

And if it's not, if it's what I'm imagining, which is a similar setup to this, where it's like made for multiple people, low table in the middle, you just put your coffee on there.

That like I would have no problem with that, and if I felt uncomfortable.

I would just circle.

That's I think that's the problem.

The circle is feeling that like kind of makes it more intimate, but not enough for me to say, this guy's an asshole.

Circle.

A circle is a closed shape, not a you.

So what happened to you?

So if it was just as a square.

No, this is a rectangle.

No it's a you, it's a U.

The proof has been.

What if you covered that and then that would be that was sable.

I think it's definitely rectangle in a.

Coffee shop, this would be an open layout.

The circle, though, is kind of implying that it's tight.

I guess I'd have to see.

I mean, you're right, you're like, is it a loose circle?

Yeah?

Exactly, how is it?

And I am with you.

That's I would call that spread strategy.

So like if you're if it's technically like that and that's the ender, I mean, that's it's there's also like the microculture of the place, like, how is that generally used?

Spread strategy would say, instead of sitting next to each other, you spread out, then you could put bags.

That's like really heading into And.

Also it sounds like the culture of it is like that's his local.

He goes there, he knows those the company of seats.

He's more familiar with the place than these dudes who came and sat down.

In my opinion, in my version of hearing what I'm hearing, so I don't think that there's I'm like, if it's so tight that he had to ask them to move their legs to get in there, Okay, yeah.

Yeah he did, I say that.

Yeah, he says, I squeezed past them.

Okay, I think for me, that's gonna send it.

We got a circle and we got a squeeze.

That was the one thing you had.

If it was a loose circle, I could bend.

The fact that he even posted shows he wasn't so sure about it.

I also want to know if he put his ear pods in looking at.

All of them, like I'm lately.

He pulled up his phone and was like play I'm not listening, yeah, or or yeah, like it doesn't Yeah, I guess I mean the squeeze is not good.

I think I'm still I'm still like neutral to it's fine.

Or did he say if it was a full shop or no?

He doesn't address that, so I think to me, that says it wasn't full.

He could have sat other places otherwise, because if he said there was nowhere else to sit, and then I think I'd be like, there's nowhere else to say it.

Part of my it's you know that that would shift me.

But my other thing is does he say he sat down start listening or he was listening when he sat down?

Good question.

I squeezed past them, pulled out my headphones and started listening.

I think you should know.

I really want to know what they were talking about that they were so like, that's also what I was going to say.

Are they like talking about how they're all going to smash, like treating on their wives just violated.

I feel like it is a little weird to be like, this guy is listening and we're leaving.

Like, to me, that is also weird because again, like I said, it's technically a public space.

Well I thought it was ballless.

I would have just been like, hey, man, hey buddy, hey man, hey, there's plenty of other seats.

Man, we're kind of having here.

Now.

This is the thing.

If this as the alternative, which I never even considered, if someone said that to me, I'd be like, no, go scre yourself.

This is a public space.

I'm sitting here.

Yeah, Like if someone told me like, hey, we don't want you to sit in.

Your ass, but if there were other seats available, like comfortable seats, comfortable, I'm sitting here.

Yeah, I feel like it's hard for me.

I also, again, would I feel like if I was having a conversation and people were somehow moving on the conversation, I would be like, it's time for us to take a walk and have that.

I mean, that's basically what they did as a walk.

Anti Gager wrote, NTA went Unta, It's a coffee shop, not their living room.

If they want a privacy, they should go elsewhere.

In my view, this is the same as sitting next to someone at a theater without reserve seats.

It's uncomfortable, it's creepy.

The fact that he had the squeeze pass and that there is a table to me says there is an expectation that this is a group table.

He violated that norm selfishly.

I'm sorry, this is an asshole for me?

Clear why ta.

I?

As most times I feel this person is in fact not an asshole.

This person wanted a comfy chair and there's nothing wrong with that.

I didn't encroach in their conversation and in fact was like, I'm gonna put pods in to make sure they know I'm not here doing this.

I just want a comfortable chair.

And this is this this person's local place.

They prob I'm assuming, know the culture and the all of that space and wouldn't have encroached if they felt like that.

Was Did you say it was his local?

Yeah, my local coffee.

So I'm saying, not an asshole.

You're saying, no assholes here, no assholes here.

Oh this is hard.

I feel like I'm always in the middle of the divorce.

This one's not as heated as Shag because I think I think we're more on a fact I think he's more of a factual issue.

I'm going to say he's not the asshole, but that he is a weirdo.

I'm going to say, this man doesn't read the room often.

That's not really sound like you're describing an asshole, not.

In an asholic way.

I'm thinking of someone specific and not in an assholic way, just as truly, just like I'm thinking of somebody.

Okay, I know my life and they do not always read the room very well.

Sometimes they're persons, so you're saying, and they're they're okay, okay, all right.

Interesting those are actually three different answers.

Yeah.

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I have no idea what's going to happen here ATA for refusing to take my shoes off in my friend's house, okay, causing his wife to cancel the D and D session for everyone.

Sorry.

I thirty eight m was invited to D and D with four others at my friend Alex's thirty four m house.

When I got their wife answered and immediately asked me to take my shoes off because they have a strict no shoes policy due to them having a crawling baby.

Oh.

I explained, I have a medical condition called epidomolysis belosa simplex EBS, which makes the skin on my feet extremely fragile.

Even mild friction or pressure can cause painful blisters and tears, so I have to wear support shoes with cushioned orthopedic insoles even indoors.

Walking barefoot or just in socks causes me pain and can lead to bleeding.

She suggested I put grocery bags or socks over my shoes, but I told her that's unsafe for walking and honestly just insulting.

She said she quote can't compromise her baby's health for my comfort.

When Alex came to the door, he told me to quote just deal with it for a couple hours or I wasn't welcome inside.

I told him I wasn't going to risk injuring myself over a D and D session, and if my shoes were that big of an issue, I'd respectfully leave.

As I walked back to my car, I overheard his wife telling the other guests that were already the night was off because I quote made a huge scene at the door.

Later, I got a group text from Alex saying he was canceling DA D night because quote, it's not fair to expect everyone else to pretend nothing happened.

Some mutual friends say I overreacted and could have just sucked it up, while others think Alex and his wife are ridiculous for ruining everyone else's plans just because I decided not to stay.

So ai ta.

Huh o pictures.

The title of this being like, you can't am I the asshole for not taking my shoes off?

I was like, yeah, yeah, Then I got more information.

I'm like, oh, maybe not.

Then I got more information.

So many, so many like it's layers.

I also I so I lived next door to a Mormon family who had like eight literally like eight kids, like seven girls, one boy, good God.

Like, there was one day I wasn't and we had a pool that they didn't, and a lot of our relationship was them climbing over the wall and staring at our pool.

And then one day I wasn't there, I wasn't home.

I don't know where I was, honestly, but my mom somehow let the kids come over and be in the pool, and one of them did have that foot thing and they led all over our yards.

Oh my god, all over the yard and like it was like a whole thing.

And then my mom, it's kind of funny.

She was like, she told my brother to go get Jeff.

And there are two Jeff's in neighborhood.

One is their dad, who is a doctor, and the other one is a stoner down the street.

And because he knew him more and know the other one, was like, yeah the stone Yeah, well he was like the dad of his friends.

So but yeah, that foot things real.

I've never heard of it.

I don't hear it either.

I don't know the name of it.

But when he described it, I was like, Oh, that's what the Lieberman's had, and like ruined our yard.

Yeah, imagine that, that'd be horrible.

I mean, I have a no shoe it's not super strict at our house, but like this is also a Canadian thing, as we don't wear shoes in the house, yes, because it's discussing outside slushy and all right.

And then there's also cultural like where it's like for certain cultures you don't wear shoes inside, but really, like, you know, it's funny.

When I was a kid, I thought it was made up for TV that people wore their shoes in the house, and I thought it was like an American TV thing where people would be on a couch with shoes on, or like go on to bed with their shoes.

And I was like, that's insane.

No one wears their shoes inside and everywhere, Like these people are hilarious.

Yeah, it's so fake.

But I came here and people just walk around the shoes and I was like in my mind, I'm like, it's disgusting.

It's so dirty outside, and like just as a person with no kids before, I was like, oh, gross, I don't want all your.

Dirt coming in my house.

Yeah, and then it's a real thing, like babies went at a certain age you cannot get them sick because if babies have like a certain fever.

They can't just deal with it at babies.

You have to go get a spinal tap for a baby to deal with getting a fever.

So it's like very I understand it now being a parent when people are like wash your hands when they come in, like take your shoes off, don't bring that dirt inside.

And in a place like like here we live in Los Angeles, it's disgusting, Like there's so much pollution, there's so much dissolution.

So like I think that people, I think sometimes get like uppity about people asking them to take their shoes off.

But when you actually think about, like how much like if you went and swabbed someone's shoes and then it's like swab someone's carpet, you would be disgusted.

I think everyone would take their shoes off.

You know, it's just gross.

Yeah, I think here we have like what is that thing they always say like could God make a burrito so hot he himself could not eat?

I know, never heard that that means.

It's like it's like, you know, it's just a funny version of like an immovable object versus an unstoppable force.

Right, It's like you have two sides that kind of refuse to budge.

Now, I will say, on the baby side, you've raised some very valid points, and to me it does seem like a valid thing.

You can make the baby sick because it's going to bring in grime and bacteria and things of this nature, and so I think she's valid.

On the other hand, I do think there is something kind of humiliating about making someone take their shoes off if they're not used to it, and wearing like bags over it or socks over their shoes.

I thought they just wanted them to put trash bags over their shoes.

I think that's what that was.

I can understand if and I can unders and why he maybe would be reserved about that.

It slips, like if his feet are so sick.

The snow thing, I'm like, is the house covered in oil.

I don't think you're.

Gonna switch what a fun house?

What a house is this?

But like the safety aspect there, to me is a little laughable.

But I'm like, it's your you know, it's your body, your choice.

I think you're being a little ridiculous.

I would just put on the fucking bags and shut the fuck up.

But but I'm just like yeah, and so he was like, well, I don't want to do that, and then he left, And so that was my take on this.

I'm just like, yeah, so he didn't want to do it, he didn't want to follow your house rules.

He did not disrespect the rules.

He just said, okay, those are your rules.

I have a foot thing, which is pretty pretty serious.

And he's like, I don't want to do it.

I don't want to accommodate your rule that way, and I walked away.

I'm like, yeah, I can see how that's jarring, but.

He didn't do anything long back it up.

Let's back it up, okay, right, So I think that it sounds like it wasn't like this person said, hey, we really need you to take your shoes off.

We have a baby.

And then the other person was like, oh my gosh, of course I totally understand that I can't, so I'll leave.

It wasn't like an instantaneous like I'll leave if I can't, But.

There was a back and forth because then the husband comes in, right.

So I feel like if there had been in the very beginning of this person being like, oh, I have this foot thing and I can't actually take my shoes off, and then the woman was like, okay, cool, but like you can't wear your shoes in here's some other options, and they went, no problem, I'll leave, I'll come back next time.

I'll bring indoor shoes whatever the case may be.

Right, Like, there's lots of solutions that could have happened.

It sounds more like this was like a back and forth heated thing.

I have two people being there.

Whatever the burrital thing.

She suggested, I put grocery bags or socks over my shoes.

I told her that's unsafe for walking and honestly dis insulting.

She said she can't compromise her baby's health for my comfort.

To me, Alex came to the door.

He said, just deal with it for a couple of hours.

I think I think the reason I think it was heated is that the has the her the friend had to come up and be like, what's going on?

Why are you?

Like?

I think it did turn I think you're right.

I think it did turn heated.

Instead of like people being like, oh and you oh.

It was tense.

I'll get you tense.

It was definitely tense.

It wasn't a present interaction.

So I think that, like I think also, if they're really friends and this really is this person has his foot condition, I'm sure that they've experienced this before, so it's not like something weird, wildly shocking thing and like the idea of putting bags on your feet.

Sure, maybe it's a bit humiliating, but like if you're with your friends, like who cares, Like why.

Would you be Like I know, I think it's ridiculous, but I'm like, yeah, but he doesn't want to do it for whatever fucking reason.

Which is fine, and I think then like leaving, but to me, it does sound like tense or heated, something other than just like two people having a discussion about how we work out a solution.

And so it was like, fine, I'm leaving.

And then it's like the I mean, I think that the wife saying like, okay, well we have to cancel this because now the duff is a bit much as well.

That's where she's lost me there.

I'm like yeah.

And then she also characterized it as making a scene.

I don't really think that's what a scene is.

I think it sounds like.

It was a scene.

I wonder if like for him to say this is insulting, if like if you really hit that over the Yeah, that's how it's like, this is so insulting to me?

How dare you?

Yeah?

How dare you?

And like to that, I would be like, well that's silly maybe, And also I'm like part of me is like, if you've had this foot thing forever, this can't be the first time.

Okay, insulting you're right is kind of a loaded thing.

Yeah, I think I think that can score some points with me on making him an asshole, because if I say what you're saying is insulting, that's implying that like you're acting with malice.

And I'm like, if she has a new baby, she's tired, Oh.

My gosh, I'm going to give her some grace on that.

Because if you have a new baby and someone comes and is like like essentially like you kind of get loopy, like you're not a crawler.

Crawling could be anywhere from like three months to like six months, that's still new.

You're still not getting I think that baby.

I mean for me to say new baby, I'm saying baby because it doesn't stay a baby for long.

It's when it's a baby, it's new, you know, I mean, then it's a toddler, and then it's a child.

And then I'm just now getting mostly full nights of sleep and my youngest kid is four years old.

I did not expect that.

And you're gonna say, like.

No, es, you do not get full.

And I have friends who their kids still don't sleep for the nights, like you imagine.

It's not like it's like that's an accumulation, right, So like this woman's probably.

All right, well done, well done, you got her off the hook.

You got her for me.

Now, I mean for ladies, she's gonna be tired.

And it also feels like, okay, yeah, I mean the babies are also young, so this kind of feels like, hey, you know, the kids get you know, the kids crawling.

Now, can I have D and D night baby?

And she's like okay, yeah, okay, you know what, let's just do it.

Yeah, we'll do it.

And then she's fucking tired.

It was a long night.

And then this fucking guy's I'm insulting.

Yeah, I get it, I get it.

It's like I'm already on my ropes and I gave you a give and then your friends are going to come in here with attitude.

It's attitude it's attitude.

Also, I'm like, where do they live?

Can D D be in the garage?

Like?

Can someone else host D?

They have a new baby?

Yeah, they have a baby.

Why are you going to their house for D and D?

Also, I feel like people play it online.

Yta for thinking this insulting writes Hello farmer, Matilda Poppins rites in my opinion, Now this is where it got interesting.

This I had.

I had to dig for this comic because most people said things like what you said, Oh you should bring your own indoor shoes around with you now n O p Slight defense.

I think I lost this comment.

But op, he did say that he asked and he had mentioned it to the friend, so we might we might ding the friend that he was like, I do have this foot thing?

Is that going to be a problem?

And the friend was like, no, I won't be a problem.

And I was like, why would you That's not This sounds like a classic thoughtless man move, like oh no, it won't be a problem, Like did you actually think about what I said for a second?

And then this also was like really sticking it into the the mom being like, everyone leave my house if you know you have a no shoes in the house thing.

Yeah, your husband or partner, maybe daddy.

I should know that.

And if the friend asked the friends like I did my due diligence to be like, should I bring shoes this?

The dude friend was like no.

If I was the mama, I'd be like, you told me didn't have to bring it.

Yeah, shut it down.

But you're saying I'm on mama's side.

She got mad at her.

She was getting mad at her husband more than at this point than the friend shut the night down.

Like, if you forgot to tell your friend whose foot bleeds upon touching, to bring inside shoes, I would be like, you're getting in your friend's car, you're going to his house, and you're both getting his indoor shoes because now he's embarrassed and you deserve to escort him home.

Like it's neither.

It's neither the friend who came to visit with the condition nor the mama's issue.

It's the dad's decade.

Yeah, bring them up, let's go.

Okay, My final attack is actually on op and I just am reading just this.

Now.

You guys might call it a reach.

He doesn't play a lot of D and D.

This is he's new to it.

Do you see that here?

Alah, Okay, just something about causing his wife to cancel the D and D session and that he was invited to a D and D session with four other people.

It's just nothing about this says that this is regular or familiar, and so it's.

Not confirmed that the person writing it is not a D and D person.

No, No, that's just my interpretation based on that that it doesn't feel like they're a D and D group, Maybe that he was trying, maybe not for the first time, and so so my thought is that on some level, yeah, he didn't really want to fucking play the indie so that's why he was like there was.

Even more in the same way it would come and make a scene.

Then it feels like this person's very neurotic then, like or is failing at friendship on many levels, which that does like if he's not really that into D and D.

Here's this foot condition.

It is very weird to me.

You don't just bring inside shoes, yeah, and in your air?

Are just have it in your trunk?

Yeah?

Hilasia twenty six hundred rights.

So they have cats or dogs, people who let pets track whatever around but freak out at shoes are the asshole people who have babies and some that are probably the asshole too.

These folks never learned that nothing is as clean as you think it is.

And that's okay.

This's got negative hundred and seventy negative seven hundred twenty one of votes like that.

You know what, I agree with the animal thing, like if your animals are inside outside animals, but you don't want people tracking stuff in.

There must be some other reason why you don't want shoes in because your animals are doing the thing you're saying.

But when it comes to.

Babies, don't work around babies, big men, like you're gonna don't.

Don't if you're like everything's on clean, Yeah, everything's on clean.

I'm trying to keep it as clean.

As so, like, just help me out.

I have a baby, very tired.

So he wrote they do have a dog.

That's his only comment reply.

Okay, and I got the fact that he had asked before in an edit, which is kind of sus because that means he was probably getting told he was an asshole and a lot of the comments, so then he went in and edited, Oh I did text our friend group chat a few days ago about my concerns with my condition because we changed the location of the meat up to his house instead of mine.

Alex reassured me that I shouldn't worry about it, so I didn't bring my indoor shoes.

Back on husband, back on husband being the asshole, Yeah, yeah, totally husband.

I mean I was open to hearing about OP being it sounds like op is neurotic.

And but it was going to be at his house.

There goes my like first time via D thing that seems a little crazy, like a group.

Now I'm honestly ready to say that it is the husband to at least we agree for weeks.

Are Antia for refusing to take my shoes off my friend's house, calls his wife to can't So the dn D session we're at not the asshole and husband is.

Absolutely this is the first time we've all agreed on something.

Again.

We should call and thank the husband you're acting careless has brought us all together.

Sorry, it really suffers that child.

We're gonna wrap up on a fun one of folks.

A t for telling my coworker her baby looks like Danny DeVito.

Oh my god.

My coworker came in last week the show off her newborn.

Everyone was telling her how cute he was, and it was my turn.

I said, wow, he's adorable, kind of looks like a baby Danny DeVito.

I generally meant it as a compliment because I love Danny DeVito.

The room went dead silent.

She grabbed the baby, and now she's barely talking to me.

Apparently she told h R I was mocking her child, and now I'm wondering if I crossed the line.

A da oh my gosh.

H brought into this baby being shown has nothing to do with the workplace.

I don't want to brag.

I work in an office and I'm a wow, absolutely useless hr is.

I think she is drunk, and I'm jealous that she's so drunk at work.

But like the fact that HR like for me, the idea of HR stepping in, I'm like, that's insane.

My HR rep would be like livid, She'd be like cussing you out, be like, did you understand I have to drive over here today?

That's so yeah, Danny DeVito, I just want a first question of the line.

I genuinely meant it as a compliment because I love Danny DeVito.

Chris's delusion about their level exactly.

I'm like, I love Danny DeVito, but that wasn't what you said.

You didn't say.

Your baby reminds me of Dandy Davito, looks.

Like if this is I feel like it doesn't really matter if it's a man or woman.

I feel like if it's a man, it feels worse.

If it's a woman, I'm like, she's quirky.

She doesn't know, like oh yeah, yeah yeah, but like I will, I just imagine this person being like Danny DeVito took in Marrow Wilson.

Okay, when Mark Wilson's family is going through a divorce, he didn't have to do that.

That's just the kind of man, Danny Davite, you baby taking another baby.

I think also parents get very like I think I think that it's funny when babies are really like funny looking yea, And I think that like parents who get that and they're like, yeah, my baby looks weird, like look at those eyebrows or look at his cheeks or whatever, then it's like it's chill because like everyone's like every baby's beautiful.

I'm like, okay, sure in that, like they're a miracle and it's wonderful.

But like, not every baby is like what people would think of, like, oh, a beautiful, cute baby.

And that's totally fine because I think most babies look weird and.

Then they grow normal and fine.

They are given helmets.

I mean, my baby had a helmet.

Yeah, real flat head, but like and her flat was cute.

But I think that one thing that I want to really.

Phillips baby, Sorry you won't Phillips face is stupid phillips.

I think that one thing that really irks parents is if you if this baby was a little girl baby and this person said this little girl baby looks like I think that's like that would have brought it to another level where they would have been really upset, which I think is kind of funny.

I think people care about how their baby looks.

Even though it was a funny comment.

I think moms are tired.

Also, moms especially.

Like and I think hormones are so insane.

Yeah, the hormones are insane, and I just think, like, look, I love dating Divido too.

He's funny, but it's not a compliment.

And you don't roast someone's baby.

You just don't feel like like I don't have babies, but like I feel like the baby, it's literally you you made that baby, You're in the baby, and so like I think at first you could be very like do people like the baby?

Like do people like me?

You know?

And so like yeah, I could see somebody well and like I feel to laugh at the baby makes sense like almost like a year later looking at looking like, look how crazy you looked.

But I think that like I have, I had two kids.

My one kid, when he was a baby, like looked like a perfect little lumber baby.

Like everyone's like, oh my gosh.

Like my agent was like, can I wrap this baby?

Like very very beautiful, like traditionally like beautiful looking kid.

My second baby looked more like weird, you know, like she was still like cute, but like she didn't you couldn't tell what she was going to look like.

My first baby's like you you can tell that's a human being who's gonna look like And then my second one, like it was very hard to understand what her look was going to be.

And also like she didn't have a lot of hair and stuff like that, and I was like, yeah, she kind of like it's fine, like she like and people always thought she was a boy and like it was just like everything, but I didn't.

It didn't bother me because I was like, that's good.

I don't care, right, Like, this baby's healthy, she's happy, it's good.

Yeah, she's super funny.

Even as a baby, she had like a little quirky, like weird laughs and stuff like.

It was like great.

But I think also like I was in a good Yeah, my partner was very supportive and loving, like all these different things.

So I had all that going from So that's like the least of my issue.

Yeah, she also had some sickness stuff, so I was like, I don't care what she looks like.

I wanted to be happy, right, Yeah.

But I think like if you have your hormones going everywhere, if maybe like you're having a hard time at home with your partner and maybe you're going into work and like this person going to work to show the baby, like in America, it's hard because you only get like six weeks off and you have to go back to work.

Maybe they were like worried about like there's.

Just it's been a month and a half.

Just get the work.

Yeah, like you'll love that way.

So I think that there's just so many things going on.

I also, though, think that the person was not trying to roast the baby.

I think this person was genuinely just like there was recognize that that would be like not nice to say, and didn't think about it.

So I don't think they had bad intentions like look at this baby, looks like Dannity v doo.

I think they were like, oh my god, it's so cute.

What a little funny face.

I agree with you there it was.

It was not meant maliciously.

It was kind of funny and lighthearted.

But the HR thing I don't like.

I think that is very narky and like, you don't go to HR with that.

What you say is, uh, you know, chur truce.

You made this comment about Danny de Vito.

You know it rubbed me wrong.

Oh my god, I'm so sorry.

I didn't mean it in that way.

That was what a stupid thing to say.

Yes, I also inside, all right, baby looks like Danny DeVito in your head.

You tell your friends later like, oh my god, it's not the cutest baby exactly.

That's for back.

What's I called talking behind someone's back back of the room, Like, so I do think, op, it was a miss.

It was not a malicious miss, but it was just a miss.

But telling HR to me is too much.

It's overkilled work issues.

This person was coming to show their baby, so they're not.

Even that basically, they're not like teacher, like they just put a movie on.

She said.

And my coworker came in last week to show off her newborn, So I don't know if that's necessarily.

So they're not even at work.

I'm gonna get H.

I'm assuming her her hormones are insane.

She showed her off.

Yeah, but potentially just like photos or she doesn't say she has the new boy.

Oh I see necessarily.

Oh, it wasn't with her, that's different.

I think going to I'm sorry, Cottie.

I can't give a prego pass on that or a new pass.

Going to HR is so narky and it's just like, dude, just say it.

OHP should have said sorry and read the room like, oh my bad, didn't didn't mean it like that, like your joke.

A lot.

HR is a lot, So HR is too much.

And for these reasons, antab telling my coworker baby looks like Danny DeVito, regardless of the truth, of the matter.

I actually do believe op that that's a little Danny de Vitito right there, little tiny Danny de Vito.

But I'm not everyone sucks here and sucks.

Yes.

I feel like if I made this joke and it's zeroed right, it's zero, I would have gone up immediately after.

I've been like, hey, I'm so sorry.

I didn't mean like that.

Your baby's super cute, like you should have read the room there.

Yeah, I don't think I mean again, this is my general stance on most things.

It's like, I don't think this person sounds like they were unreasonable or being an asshole.

They were genuinely trying to be like, oh that's funny and cute and like whatever.

And it was a miss is what I would say it.

I don't think that constitutes that this person was an asshole.

I think that if.

The mom an apology.

I think if the mom had.

Been like, oh that that sucks, yeah, then she did this joke, gotten nothing.

But she didn't say anything, so you need her to say what.

She just left the room went dead silent, she grabbed the baby, and now she's buried.

The baby is there also, which is a key thing.

The room went oh, yeah, you're right.

I think that that well, maybe maybe they could have gotten apologized, But like I think, I don't know.

I just don't think this person was an asshole.

I think the person maybe just had a miss and was like, oh, I don't know.

I guess that.

If someone storms off, doesn't that communicate that you did something?

Maybe maybe they should have just been like, hey, sorry, was that weird?

There is there is as a rule of a I t A or a model of a t A, which is, if you owe the other person apology, that makes you the asshole.

Okay, I'm going to say that.

So under that rule, hold on, I'd like to get Iyesho on this one.

If he wants, you know, he wants to know that he's right, would you say to know that I'm coming to his side.

No, it's not my side, it's the side of truth and justice.

Wouldn't you say that at that point before the HR, the OP was the asshole and should have said something.

I think by the terms of if you owe an apology, I think yes, then I think that that they could have gone and been like, hey, that felt weird.

Did I offend you?

I'm sorry?

Yeah, whatever, Yeah, So.

Now you're the backtrack because you're right, it is weird because now we know the baby was there, so we got that fact wrong because she grabbed the baby and then she went to HR.

Anyway, I mean, to me, that doesn't really change it.

That just means we could assume they were not at work with a baby.

I feel like they were at work.

They were, she was, he was visiting you.

When you're he's born during your matt leave, you bring the baby everybody.

So it sounds like it was a new baby.

To me, that doesn't change anything for me.

I'm I like, I'm gonna give her I think going to HR is stupid, But I also I'm like, it sounds like she was upset, So I'm going to let it pass and I'm going to say, oh, P is the asshole.

I don't know.

I'm not saying they're an asshole forever, but I'm saying they are an asshole in this situation situation, and that that way they learn, that way they learn.

Yes, although I do, I just want to put this in writing.

Everyone get out of your pens.

That going to HR to me is an insane thing to situation because if you're coming you're not even at work.

You're just bringing your baby by whatever that has nothing to do with work.

And HR if I was hi' to be like, are you kidding me?

Why am I being called into this?

Sure?

I think that she has a right to be like, oh, that hurt my feelings and that seems like callous and me and to just be like I didn't like that, you know, but all of this HR stuff to me is like an insane.

Like psycho narc move auntie.

Every time my coworker her baby looks like Danny DeVito.

Therefore, I SHA and I are aligned.

Everyone sucks here.

Okay, yeah, yes, my body, you don't have to come with us.

I'm not gonna go with And I'm gonna say I agree it's insane, but I feel like mom is insane right now.

That's fair.

Yeah, I can only give so much of a new baby pass not to go into the north of town.

You can't be calling Ice, oh just a little baby so cold Ice.

No, you're a fucking monster.

Well, don't call Ice ever ever.

No, Yeah, just to put this says, let's deport Rogan.

Anyways, you're at White TA, she's white A and the new baby isn't, and this new baby isn't.

Yeah, she's she.

I would say she's she has a pass for me.

Yeah.

Wow, guys, we found some alignment.

I mean the fact that me and me and Iisha are on a team.

This is a wild thing.

I'm gonna call my mom.

Guys, thanks for joining us.

It's been a wild ride.

We'll see you next time.

Bye.