ThaMFKNLees: Journey into the Bold and Unapologetic === [00:00:00] This Week... On Hot Couple Chronicles Finally, after all of this time, we have ThaMFKNLees. And then where did the name Tha MFKN Lees come from? Lauren. Yeah. Lauren from Pineapples after Dark. One day at Trap, she just came in, Samantha motherfucking Lee, and we kinda sat there at the end of the night. I'm like, we should use that as like our title and just brand ourselves that. I mean, one of the first times I met you guys, I was naked in a playroom and you were sitting on the along side. Think you were flogging right in front of us. I'll be awkward. I'll always be myself, but yeah, if you knew me a year ago, you don't know who I am. I have changed so much. we have to meet these people. We have to. I was like, you gotta meet them. They have a vampire paddle. And then the orgy room, we met again and that was pretty much like the beginning of it all. there was a time where she had all the reasons in the world to just leave [00:01:00] and she decided to fight and she's like, I'm a stubborn bitch and I get what I want and you're what I want. So I love her for that and I'm forever grateful. I wouldn't be sitting here doing this podcast right now if it wasn't for our Secrets time. I love watching people grow. That's one of my favorite things in this lifestyle. I always try to put myself in uncomfortable situations for other people. To show 'em. Yeah. Yeah. To that. Okay. It's okay to, it's okay to be weird. We like it weird here. I know we say don't make it weird. I mean, we like, good weird. I'm the one that on a random Thursday, says, Hey babe, on Saturday we don't have anything going on. Do you wanna drive an hour and a half? 'cause there's a coffee shop I wanna try and I don't drink coffee, so I sit say, yes, of course. Welcome to Hot Couple Chronicles, a podcast exploring the swinging lifestyle. Our discussions may contain explicit content and adult themes intended for mature audiences. While we strive to offer valuable [00:02:00] insights and entertainment, please be aware that the views expressed are based on personal experiences and opinions. We encourage listeners to approach the content with an open mind and to prioritize communication, consent, and respect in their relationships. Remember, everyone's journey is unique, so take what resonates with you and leave what doesn't. Thank you for joining us on our adventure. I'm Russ. And I'm Ashley. And this is Hot Couple Chronicles. Welcome back. Happy Wednesday. We have friends with us here today. It's gonna be an exciting episode. Finally, after all of this time, we have [00:03:00] ThaMFKNLees. Our good friends. We are so excited that we finally got them on. It has been a minute we've been talking about them. I know you've heard about them a million times in our podcast. They're some of our closest friends that we call family now, and yeah, we just wanna get to know them. A lot of our podcast has been just our closest friends, people that we've been around in this space, and we want other people to get to know. We love very, very much. Yeah. Everybody's heard stories about these people. They're Ashley's. They're Ashley's. Um, you exist. Yeah. They're not imaginary. My travel buddies, they're their Ashley's travel buddies. Uh, bunk buddies. Yeah. Yes. We're gonna get started with. Who are they? Okay, let's, we're gonna get started on some questions. We're just gonna get to know them. First of all, we're gonna start easy. I know they're nervous, but we're gonna make it. Really try and make it easy for them. How long have you guys been together and how did your journey in the lifestyle start? We've been together about eight years. Got married [00:04:00] in October 2023. Anniversary is next week, two years. Anniversary is next week. What got us into the journey? I was, when I was younger, I kind of always knew this is what I wanted to kind of travel and navigate and I was in a lot of relationships that were close-minded and not receptive to the idea of that, and I'd get a lot of pushback. So I kind of. Diminished it myself to fit what they wanted and then we've actually known each other longer than we've been together. She used to make little vinyl stickers for my vehicle and all that. So we've, we've known of each other. And when we got together, I basically told her at the beginning, like, this is, this is what I want, this is what I wanna see. And she was like, pretty much okay. Like down with it. And receptive for the first time in my life, somebody was like, you know, wanted to go on this journey with me. And ever since we've been making the most of it and making a lot of memories and close friends, and it's been amazing for us. And then how would you describe your dynamic in [00:05:00] the lifestyle? Just so people know. Full swap. Same room. Same room. We do it. This is an US thing. Yeah. It's not a, it's not so much a separate thing. No. And for her, I have, you know, she has the option to do solos and hot wife and all that. Mm-hmm. That's more my thing for her, not necessarily her thing for me. And, uh, I, I enjoy it. Yeah. It doesn't, I require often, I require too much mental, so it doesn't happen very often. We gotta keep the standards high. Yeah. Pretty much. Yeah. And then where did the name Tha MFKN Lees come from? Lauren. Yeah. Lauren from Pineapples after Dark. One day at Trap, she just came in, Samantha motherfucking Lee, and we kinda sat there at the end of the night. I'm like, we should use that as like our title and just brand ourselves that. So shout out to Lauren. Your checks in the mail for all that. So thank you. All right. And now we've talked [00:06:00] about who you are. Let's talk about how you are as individuals. We wanna talk a little bit more about that. Outside of the lifestyle, just kind of tell them who you are as people. This is one of those things like, you know when people ask you what your hobbies are? Yeah. And all of a sudden I have none whatsoever. I have no idea. He's the social butterfly. Definitely. I like to do do things with people. This a little bit. She, he's the social butterfly. I am the more one that sits back and just watches and yeah, I'm definitely more out there. Even outside the lifestyle. I'm never, we both have never met a stranger type of people. I'll go up and introduce myself and start talking, and before I know it, by the end of the night, I've walked out with a new friend. He makes friends everywhere we go, everywhere we go, whether we're out a grocery store, in a parking lot, at an event, I, I just love talking and meeting new people. I mean, one of the first times I met you guys, I was naked in a playroom and you were sitting on the along side. Think you were flogging right in front of us. Remember you put on a little performance and we're just like, this [00:07:00] is funny. And then we talked about how you guys always kind of been social people, but how have you changed since the lifestyle? Have you grown and changed? I've become more confident in myself. When we first started I was definitely more insecure. More comparing myself to everybody else. And I definitely have found that with time, I've definitely come more out of my shell. Been more confident in in me physically and kind of mentally. Yeah, yeah. No, I understand completely. I understand. It's awkward. I'll be awkward. I'll always be myself, but yeah, if you knew me a year ago, you don't know who I am. I have changed so much. So no, I get that. And then. How do you stay authentic within this lifestyle? How do you stay true to yourself? I don't know how to do anything else. Yes, I, I love that answer. Know I don't know how to fake things. I couldn't fake, but try. Yeah. Because they are exactly who you see. Who you see here, and who you see in events and who you see anywhere. You're gonna get the same people every single time. That's what we love about you guys. I don't have the capacity. I can't, I don't have the energy. To keep up with [00:08:00] a person persona. No. Yeah, exactly. No. I don't have the energy. To be your true self. I mean, that's. This lifestyle has taught us that. Being your true self and the acceptance that this lifestyle has given us, I have never felt in my entire life. That's what we were gonna talk about next. Yeah. The friends and the relationships. I wanna give them a backstory of how we all met at the first glow party. Mm-hmm. They came in the room, they were friends with Anything but Vanilla. Mm-hmm. Rob and Lindsey. And they came in and he had the Vampire Paddle. I know we've told the story before of the guy with the Vampire paddle that was, that was him. And yeah. Didn't know who they were. Sat down next to 'em and kind of made comments about that and just kind of talked in passing and it really was like, we just kept seeing each other over and over again and I was like, we have to meet these people. We have to. I was like, you gotta meet them. They have a vampire paddle. Well, that was one of the first events that you went to solo. By myself. Yeah. Yeah. So I didn't, and I didn't really know [00:09:00] anyone. We'd brought friends of ours, really close friends of ours, but didn't really know anyone yet. We were still pretty early on in Pineapples After Dark group and stuff. And as was us, I mean, Rob and Lindsey kind of took us in and showed us all the love and when we went there, we were still trying to navigate who people are. We were still fresh into there. Yeah. And you were camping out in the room. So when we went in there just to hang out with them, that's kind of where the acquaintance and the friendship began. At least the familiarity began. And then the orgy room, we met again and that was pretty much like the beginning of it all. Trap one night and Russ was found performance and we're like, we, we got it. Actually, we sat in the outskirt watched the performance. We knew that they were gonna. We've been. Memories. Yeah. Yeah. I need you to do that to her. So we've touched on your kind of your dynamic. How do you two navigate your boundaries? 'cause you've talked about how Sam is open to one-on-ones and solo adventures, but [00:10:00] how do you guys together just navigate those boundaries? I'd say for the most part we have those conversations going forward when we introduce ourselves to people and they always ask where our dynamic is. Like we are, we do group chats. Yeah, we're full swap, same room. And we've had, at the beginning stages of the lifestyle, we've had pushback where it's like, oh, well she's allowed to do that. You should be able to. And that's not. Fair and it, it's our rules to make. This is our journey and this is what I enjoy seeing her do, and we do this together as a team. So we just let 'em know straight up front and if it's something they want to click with and explore more, we're willing to, if they don't, then it is what it is on that. Not everyone's going to love your boundaries, but that doesn't matter. This is your journey, so it doesn't matter. Yeah. Yeah. You know, you're too picky. You're too, you have too many. And that's okay. This and that. And that's okay. That does not matter. There's no such thing as too picky. Yeah. Yeah. This is a journey for you guys and for you even. That's what we make it like y'all [00:11:00] preached for many episodes. This isn't a competition. It can be whatever. This is what you want to make it. It can be your own story. The limit is endless. Oh yeah. You can accomplish everything and anything you could ever dream of here. Absolutely. But yeah. Okay. And then what is one thing that you admire about each other and how you show up in your relationship? I love hearing love. I love, love so I always add these. You're turning red. I know, I'm kidding. I'm kidding. You're not. You're not. I, I simply wanna show people how these relationships are just so much different than normal relationships. Yes. You go first. Her devotion and dedication to this. She fought very hard at the beginning to get me. She knew what she wanted. Yeah. We went through trials and tribulation, fire and brimstone. And it forged what you see now and the love that we have right now. Um, I made mistakes along the way. It was never, always, it was, it wasn't always perfect. Never is. But she never, ever gave up or showed the slightest [00:12:00] bit of weakness towards us. And I can thank her for that. She, no, there was a time, and peeling the curtain back, there was a time where she had all the reasons in the world to just leave and she decided to fight and she's like, I'm a stubborn bitch and I get what I want and you're what I want. So I love her for that and I'm forever grateful. Beautiful. I just love showing people the love that is here. It's love. It's so much love. So much love. No, no. No, no one is, we've learned and we've communicated and that's where a lot of this lifestyle has, has helped us both personally outside of it. Mm-hmm. The communication aspect. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Yeah. The talking and being open and transparent with everything. 'cause as I stated earlier, I came from relationships where if I expressed ideologies, I was kind of shunned or minimalized, or you're weird, or. It took me a while to be able to, you always thought it was a trap. I, I did. I was like, yeah. He always thought it was a trap and it took forever for him to [00:13:00] finally learn. I'm not, I'm not trying to trap. No, I'm on your side. I we're together not a test. And it took a while because in the past I was always scared. I was always, I was afraid to express who I wanted to be and what I wanted outta life without ridicule. And it, like she said, it took me a while. It got us to where we are now and we can talk about anything and anything under the sun and. No, you've definitely grown leaps and bounds. The communication part like that took, that took a bit, but that's huge and it's so important. And not just lifestyle wise. Yeah. Now it's, yeah, every aspect seeps into everything else, so it is, it has strengthened outside the lifestyle. Yeah. It, yeah that's what we noticed too early on was, the lifestyle opened the doors to talk about, you know, all this spicy stuff. Mm-hmm. But then, in the end, we realized we could talk to each other about absolutely everything. It's to the point now, like she's even told me, she's like, okay, you're like, you're over communicating now. We can keep some things a mystery sometimes. [00:14:00] We're good. Looking to add some excitement to your social life? Meet 3fun. The free app that connects to open-minded singles and couples for fun adventures with thousands of active users. Three, fun is our ticket to new friendships, flirty encounters, and unforgettable experiences. The best part, it's completely free to use. No hidden fees or subscriptions. Ready to join the Fun Download 3fun app now from the App Store or Google Play Store and start connecting with like-minded individuals in your area. Don't miss out on the excitement. Find the link below and get started with 3fun today. And then another easy question, what is a favorite memory from a lifestyle event or club that you've had together? I think now my favorite memory is probably my birthday trip to Secrets. Yeah. That was a good, that was, that was such a good trip. Turning 40. I think that entire weekend we were completely on the same page. There was not one moment of, Yeah, we were just. You were beautiful to watch. Whole weekend. We were hitting [00:15:00] on all the cylinders. Just seeing how much you had grown from, 'cause we had been on a Secrets trip before, not, not far before. Not, yeah. Pretty. I mean, but there wasn't much space in between the two. And just to watch how far you came. We extremely underestimated Secrets. Mm-hmm. It's a lot. We were lucky enough and fortunate enough that y'all invited us down there to experience y'all's happy place. And we went in there with the mindset of A, B, C, 1, 2, 3 is what's gonna happen, yeah, it did not. And we were overwhelmed and it was a lot. But we learned from that trip. Yeah. And we went back for her birthday. Just everything lined up perfectly. Yeah. Everything was fun. And we had friends come from Georgia travel all the way down there just to surprise her and just the camaraderie and love that was shown to her that weekend. It was. We still to this day talk about like, man, I wish we could replay that one again. It was just, we're gonna try, in a few weeks, we're gonna try again. It'll be my birthday. In a couple weeks it'll be my birthday. Yeah, we're heading in November and off to Secrets. It was our first time early this year, [00:16:00] and now we've been back, it'll be our third time in November. We definitely love that place. We love what it has to offer. I was struggling last time, so now I can get on the cylinders that you guys are on and will be great. It's gonna be even better. It's gonna be a good time. But talking about events and all of that, I wanna talk a little bit more about your involvement. With Pineapples After Dark and how that kind of came about and everything. What made you want to be more involved and help with a group of people in the lifestyle? How important those people were to us. And how much of, how much of an impact they had made on not just our lifestyle life, but our life in general. Yeah. Um, majority of our friends now are within Pad. That's, they're, they're our family at this point. So yeah, prior to Pad, I mean, we've been in the lifestyle for about five years. We first associated with apps and we didn't yield the results that others did. A lot of it was ghost pictures, collectors. The, the occasional times that we did meet people wasn't really a vibe, so when we were on Facebook, we were part of a few [00:17:00] groups, but Pads stuck out to us and they were throwing their second ever party in Alpharetta, we've never done a social event. We've always hid behind a phone, an app. So this was kind of our debut, showing our face to the public in a social setting. And ever since then, like she touched on it, the impact, the acceptance. And how much it changed our life for the better. I went to Rob and Lindsey and to Davy and Lauren and I was like, I wanna be a part of this. I want to affect change. I want people to feel the same love that we're feeling and that they're giving out. And it's, it's been life changing for us. And I, I was, I was on him almost every week. Like, Hey, let me, let me do something. Let me help carry the bag. It started with the, like the 360. Started tearing down the 360. Just volunteer. Hey, I wanna help y'all. Y'all helped us. This is the least I can do. And it kind of transitioned into the role of helping plan their parties and their events, to moderate an admin in the page. I was gonna ask, what was your role? I probably should have mentioned what the roles [00:18:00] were. So I'm an admin to the page. A moderator. She's a moderator, and I'm on the event planning team. So we try to help coordinate the events, get all that lined up, and it's, it's been a, an honor and we've gotten to meet and do incredible things that we never thought would've been possible if it wasn't for them and the love that they have shown us and the acceptance that they have given us. That's a good group. That's a good crew. We love them so much. What has been your favorite moment of being on that team? The collaboration, the working as a team, trying to make sure that everybody has a seat at the table. Everyone see feels seen, they they're heard, and we have a little bit of everything for anyone that wants to show up to there. And it's, it's truly been rewarding at the end of a party. Like people are just like, man, this was amazing. Like thank y'all for what y'all do. It's our first time we'll be coming back. And that alone makes everything leading up to that worth it, and it just feels good inside. [00:19:00] And then what is the biggest behind the scenes thing that you've seen that people don't realize goes into events? So much time. Between the calls. Between going and, you know, finding venues. And then, then when things fall through and then you have to find backup and they put a lot. And you have hundreds of people. Yes. Counting on this. Yes. Date and time and lot into those, those events. Yeah. I don't think people realize, I think people think you put up a flyer and everyone just shows up and parties. It is not, I mean, for instance, we had our glow, our second glow this year, and we had a venue fall through and some issues with that. We had to pivot like a few weeks out. Like, Hey, okay, now it's here. And try to keep people's interests and attention like, okay, well. We're going from Atlanta. This is a good thing, this part now. So, no. And they still showed up and showed out. Hey there listeners. Are you looking to prioritize your sexual health and wellness? 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It helped us with our rough edges and helped shape who we are [00:21:00] currently. Y'all have done a lot for our personal and individual growth. Same. I don't think you guys understand. I wouldn't be sitting here doing this podcast right now if it wasn't for our Secrets time. No. I was at the point where it was, it was bad. It was, you guys have seen me at my lowest, personally, I think out of everyone we've known in the last probably 15 years, and I could never repay you for what you've done and how much you've helped me. You understand how my brain works. Yeah. Yeah. That's why, that's why I was like that I think. I could let that wall down. And like somebody else thinks the same way that I do. I'm being crazy. Yeah. Yeah. You, you trusted us enough to be vulnerable and transparent in a moment where you felt the weakest. That in itself is an act like most people try to hide that and conceal that to protect. I can't, I, I don't, I can't. I want to. I try. I feel like I am. It, it was an honor to go through that and we, we built each other up. That's what I'm here for. We're not here to tear anybody down. We want to succeed and be happy in this. Yeah. That's why I really am trying [00:22:00] to get across and it's not pretend, it's not a lie, it's not this made up fantasy. People say to me that I'm lying. That this is not all this big, amazing, wonderful, non-judgmental zone and that we're pretending. It's not about sex. It's, it truly is about. Not just about your looks. It's not just about that. It's about so much more than that. You can't even explain unless you're here. Yeah. It's hard to understand. Coming into this, I had so many, and I'm sure most people can resonate with this, I had a lot of insecurities. Oh yeah. Coming into this, my size, I mean my, my teeth, and I've, I was like, man, nobody's gonna want to talk to me. Mm-hmm. Have me kiss their wife, or, I think most of us feel that way too. We've been married for a minute, you're not sure if you're gonna be having people talk to you or wanting you in that way. I think we all can resonate with that. I think all of us, oh, I still believe that with it to this day. I'm, there's no, I'm still there. And then I get, we get to an event or we get to Trap, or we get somewhere and then like everybody's coming up and I'm like. So you do really like me? Yeah. Like this isn't all imagination. But then, but that's [00:23:00] part of the lifestyle. That you're constantly working on your confidence. Never would've done this stuff that we've done in this lifestyle otherwise ever. Just, this alone making me go, oh my goodness. Yeah. Oh my goodness. This has been such, such a journey. And then what is one piece of advice that you would give to someone starting the lifestyle? Ask before you touch. Consent always, and everyone's talked about it and y'all have had it on y'all's podcast. It's not all about sex. Yeah. Don't think just 'cause you walk in the door day one that you're going to have this orgy. I mean, it can think, it can take months. It can take. It'll all happen. Let it flow. Don't try to force it. Don't try to push and don't get, you know, don't get discouraged, discouraged because we've been to two events. Or we don't have our people. We get that a lot with we. You guys have this close group of people. You're with the same friends all the time. I want that. 'cause a lot of people are looking for that. And don't be afraid to go. It takes time. Yeah. Friends. Yes. Just because there's a group of people Yes. I was just gonna say that. Does not mean you are not welcome. We want more people. That's who they're most comfortable with, so that's [00:24:00] who they're gonna gravitate towards. Especially our group. And we get that. Our group come hang out. Oh yeah, for sure. There's not anybody in this group that wouldn't welcome you with open arms at all. We're the one that'll waddle to you. Yeah, I know we're talking about everybody has that fear of rejection, but. I feel like that's part of the excitement that we're drawn to. Mm-hmm. Like the chance of possibly being rejected but not. Mm-hmm. Is that, that much more of a dopamine drip. Like that's feeling you taking your, your, that's why people think that I don't like them is because I'm not the approacher ever. Because I'm terrified of rejection, so I'm just like, I'll just sit over here and wait for you. Yeah, It's learning rejection and I feel like that's part of the whole butterfly feeling we get when we go meet new people. 'cause like, they might not like me, but you know what, I'm putting myself out there. Just doing that is huge and that in itself is an adrenaline boost. And then when you start connecting with these different people, it's [00:25:00] like, oh, okay. And then it builds your confidence. You become more social and I mean, let's be honest, a lot of us have been together for a really long time with our partner. We forget how to interact with other couples and flirt. Still don't know how to flirt. I don't know when people are doing it to me and I don't know how to do it. Yeah. So like we're relearning or for some people that have been together for, since high, we know high school, we know people, high school sweethearts and they never flirt with anyone else and they've never flirted with anybody else. So it's, we're learning or relearning a lot of these things that we haven't done in years. And it's not gonna be perfect. It's not. Like you're gonna mess up. It's gonna be weird. Get comfortable being uncomfortable. It's gonna be weird. There's gonna have moments. To me, those awkward funny moments are really the moments that are like the best. And those gonna be ingrained in those people, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yes. And that's how you find your people, because she talks about fear of rejection. Like I've even noticed a difference in her. You know, in the last three or four months, [00:26:00] you know, she's become more vocal. She's kind of putting herself out there a little bit more to people that she likes. And even this past weekend, she saw a gentleman that she liked and she's like, Hey, do you have one of your cards on us? And I was like, yeah, whatcha about to do? She's like, I'm gonna give it to him and tell him to come find me. And I was like, that is so hot. And you would've never done that three or four months ago. But I, I see little moments and little things like that and I, I commend her and I let her know like, Hey, you. I see what you're doing. I see the effort and it has changed her confidence a lot. Yeah. That's, that is hot. I like it. I love it. I love watching people grow. That's one of my favorite things in this lifestyle. That was one of my favorite is watching couples. Yeah, that was one of my favorite things in the very beginning. I would find that. You could, because you could tell when somebody's not confident or really shy, they stick out like a sore thumb when they're in a group of people that are really comfortable. Mm-hmm. I used to single those people out and be like, I feel like you might've done that to me. And like, and, and [00:27:00] it wasn't like I wasn't trying to be predator. Like I wasn't really looking for any type of play. I just wanted to see them be comfortable in their own skin. And so I used to just sit there and talk to 'em and like pull 'em out to the dance floor, introduce them to people. And anybody that knows me, that is my most self-conscious place, 'cause I am not a dancer, but I do it for her. Yeah. I'm not good at it either, but I love doing it. Me too. So I always try to put myself in uncomfortable situations for other people. To show 'em. Yeah. Yeah. To that. Okay. It's okay to, it's okay to be weird. We like it weird here. I know we say don't make it weird. I mean, we like, good weird. We like good weird. I mean, the first few times we went to Trap, like my hands were like, I didn't know what to do, how to navigate. Like, I was like, I, I just, I feel awkward. I feel vulnerable. People were staring at us, but it, it took those, like you said, like getting out there and putting yourself in a position or a situation that you wouldn't have done in any other [00:28:00] setting. And people are actually reciprocating it. Like, Hey, you know, we see you now. It. It is a boost. It is. It is. Yeah. It's much fun. All right. And then before we wrap it up, we're gonna do what we do with everyone. We have rapid quickfire questions. Real fast. Yeah. No thinking. It comes out. Oh god. All right. You can both answer. Okay. Who made the first move? You? Me. Okay. Do you wanna explain or no? I'll allow it. Her dms, I'll allow it. I slid into her dms. Yep. Mutual passing. Finally slid in and shot my shot. And, uh, here. We're here we're. Who's more likely to plan a date night? Me. Me. A hundred percent. Me. I'm the go, go, go. See, I, I didn't, I didn't see that one. Neither, neither. I figured he would be though. No, he wants to go places. But I am normally the planner. He'll, he comes along with me. I'm the [00:29:00] one. He's a support system. I'm the one that on a random Thursday, says, Hey babe, on Saturday we don't have anything going on. Do you wanna drive an hour and a half? 'cause there's a coffee shop I wanna try and I don't drink coffee, so I sit say, yes, of course. Duh. Yeah, she'll, she'll randomly just get her hair up there like. So I've seen this thing on TikTok. Yeah, go do it. Yeah. This is what we're doing. South Carolina for this food. We're gonna go down to South Georgia for this and we just like to travel. So she'll plan something and I'll be like, okay, I'm down. Like, I have nothing to do. Yeah. Okay. Who is the homebody? That is, that's hard also 'cause we just were talking about going. Yeah. Yeah. Who is more of a homebody. I have a desire to stay home. She'll get up and she'll be like, I'm just gonna go this and that and shop here and get, grab this. And she'll find any excuse to leave the house. I'll sit here and just be like, I kind of just wanna sit for a moment. Well, I think that's how we are too because I, you know, go like going to work and stuff. I am out when I [00:30:00] get home, I just want to be at home. Yeah. But her being at home, I work at home. She's working at home. I'm getting outta here. She's like, let me get me the heck outta here. She's be like, I know I need to do laundry and all that, but I'm gonna go shopping and go, yeah, we're gonna go to Marshall's or TJ Maxx. It's fall now so I'm getting the heck outta the house, so there's no keeping me in here when it's fall. There's some candle on sale right now, I gotta go get, I gotta smell it. I have to smell it. The leaves slightly turn colors. I've gotta go north. I'm outta here. Well, she'll go chase leaves. I know last time I was here, you guys were all set on cleaning the entire house. You got a whole plan, plan and, and then like hours later you're like, well, we didn't do that. We went to Six Flags instead. That's why we get along as well. I was out getting breakfast because I'm like, we're have breakfast and eat and then clean. We got a text message and she's like, I'm getting dressed now. I'm like, well, guess we're going there. A whole new day of adventure. Another whole day of adventure. I was like, damn it, I should have stayed there a little longer. Alright, making memories. Hey, beautiful. If you're looking to feel confident and sexy, voluptuous fix and has got you covered with stunning [00:31:00] lingerie and outfits that fit every curve, and for our listeners, you can snag 10% off your order with code Hot couple in GA at checkout. Don't miss out. Check out the link below and find your next favorite piece. What is your guilty pleasure snack after a night out? I'm gonna say either ice cream or cheesecake. Definitely we, we'll go out on a dinner date and we'll try to find a local ice cream spot nearby and get a little sweeter. Yeah. But after, after a, after a, after like a lifestyle night though? Oh, a lifestyle night? Oh, it depends. Depends on where we're at. Oh. If we're in Atlanta, you know we're going for Woody's cheese steaks because they're open until like four in the morning. Oh yeah. Sucker for cheese steaks at the end of it. Yes, always. Waffle House is always a, I feel like everyone in the lifestyle, that's theres. Our local Waffle House guy. Our order, and he knows when we come in, half dead, with our Trap bracelets on and our clothes. Nice. He'll just look at us and kind of nod his head. I like, just don't ask. Yeah. No, no. I love the waffle [00:32:00] house, like right next to the hotel we usually stay at. I've never gone there. Oh, they know. They know when everybody's coming in. I'm coming in with a, a buttoned shirt halfway done like a blazer that's all disheveled. Sparkles. We're just like, we're covered in sparkles. Yeah, covered in sparkles, glitters. Yeah. What's your go-to drink order for a night? Peach Crowne and Sprite. I'm a Crown Royal person too. Yeah, so I do a crown and coke or something of that nature. Solid. Biggest turn on that isn't physical? Um. I think Just who you are as a person, how you handle yourself, how you approach us, and just talk to us. Like confidence. Yeah, confidence. We were talking about it last weekend, had you seen like our after party or our playroom, like we have an eclectic group of all various sizes and shapes. Oh, and comfortability and yeah. You don't necessarily judge by what you look like. I mean, obviously you have those, you know, [00:33:00] desires and wants out of it, but as long as you're a good person to me and my wife and our marriage, we don't see any of that. Yeah. That's what we talk about is, we have met absolute tens for couples and after talking to 'em for five minutes, they turn into twos and threes. Mm-hmm. But on the other hand, you would see somebody you wouldn't even look at twice walking past at the store. But as you got to know them, they became the 10 because their personality was top notch. Yeah. So much more than looks. Personality was beautiful. And that attraction builds. Soul. I always say the soul. Yeah, dream vacation just for the two of you? I'm a mountains girl. I'm a cabin. I'm a beautiful views. Yeah, I like to. I can go either way. I'd think like a Cancun trip or something to go down to Mexico. See that part of town. I, I've, I've lived very secluded, uh, growing up. If, if it doesn't touch Georgia, I've [00:34:00] never experienced or seen it. So I like to probably go experience some of that and go down there. Perfect. Okay. Who's more likely to start the party? Yeah. Him, we already covered, we already covered that one. Yeah. Guilty. What's one non-negotiable in your relationship? Communication. Yep. Communication. First trip you ever took together? Gatlinburg. Mountains. Tennessee. He did not come prepared. It was cold. Horribly. He, it was raining and he had mesh shoes and he was so. Oh no mesh. She talked about this place and I've never been to it and we went and I highly underestimated it. I didn't pack at all and we, we now make it a point. We go multiple times a year. Multiple times a year now, for many years. You talk. I cannot wait to have, because we've been on our, we've been on our own, but it wasn't the greatest memories. We've done it a few times. You come do our [00:35:00] tour, it's gonna be fun. That's what I'm excited to do it Tha MFKN Lee's way, because our ways have not been the most fun. We became friends with bartenders and all that down there. They'll reach out to us now, they'll offer their house to us. Like, Hey, let's come stay with us. Some of 'em, I think they, some of them I think they know. They know who you are. He makes some friends everywhere we go. I've kind of dropped hints and he's picking up the hints. I'm like, oh no. How do you feel about pineapple? What's your favorite compliment to hear from each other? You compliment me so much. How do I pick a favorite? Don't worry. I'll wait. I don't know. I like it when I like to hear, when you tell me how much you see that I've grown and how proud you are of that. 'cause that means a lot. Yeah. But I have, I've, I've seen your journey through this weight loss, through your growth, not only in the lifestyle, but personally too, how you communicate and navigate things in that. And I am, I, I see you and I see your hard work that you've put in. And thank you. And I love you. Love you. Oh, I love it here. [00:36:00] What song instantly gets you in a good mood together? Do you have a song that you listen to? I'm a music girl. We are music people as well. Uh, man, that one, that's a tough one right there. 'cause it is. We've got such a vast, yeah, we have an eclectic, vast library from any and all things. Do you have a song? Song is Parkway Drive, Deathless Song. Which nobody probably even knows what that is. Even better. Somebody knows. Somebody. Come on metal heads don't let me down. Yeah. It's a metal song. Yeah. It's a metal love song and it's both guy and female. And it, it is beautiful. And if you look at the lyrics, it's a beautiful song. And that's where we started off. We used to sit in my vehicle and we'd just exchange music. I'd be like, listen to that song. And we would listen and we, that's how we kind of communicated. We still do to this day, like we, we love music and we share songs all the time. Music is huge in my communication. Yeah. She shares lots of songs. That's how I speak to people. I mean, we've even shared songs in our chats. This song is spicy. Ashley playlist. Yeah. We love to talk [00:37:00] about the playlist. You have the, I love music. The unofficial pineapple. Unofficial. Soundtrack of the orgy. You're not around. People are like, I need this playlist and let me see if I, that I share. Oh yeah. At this point, just everybody's adding on to it. I would love to see your Spotify views. You probably beat a lot of these out here. As many people play it. The killer one. Who's better at keeping secrets? I'm horrible at it. Do not ask me to do this. Right. Don't ask me to keep a secret. I'm the one that buys gifts and then instantly is like, here, guess what I got you. Same. Yeah. I can't, same. I like, same. I like surprising her a lot for like her birthday or things and I'll play dumb to a lot of things just 'cause I love that shock. When it finally comes to play, like, oh my God, that. I've learned to read him now though. Yeah. He's, I've learned to read him now I can go like, okay. Kinda like my birthday. I was like, I see someone coming. 'cause I know you wanna know. No you didn't. That was a lot of people to wrangle. That was a lot of logistics going into that. That was a hell of lot squirrels. Yeah. Everyone was all over Secrets doing their own thing and everyone came together. We were all [00:38:00] just running around trying. I'm sitting at the pool like, why do all of our people just gone walking by? Yeah, everybody just disappeared slowly and then he watching you on, on Life 360 and I was like, he is back there and he said he went to go to the bathroom. She was in the pool area and no, the front bathroom was closed. I had to, I had to go to the room. I think he went to the front to get people. Yeah, we all, there was like how many people in that room? We had to have had 30. That's what I was gonna say. And we were all at the polar area just hanging out and it was time. So we had to all nonchalantly, but if you know Secrets, you have to walk around and you can watch everyone walking and where they're going to then go upstairs and back through and she was just sitting there, we're all trying to be sneaky and Mike was running around. I'm like, Hey, I gotta go to our room. Let's go real quick. And then the room we had to go to was not anywhere near our room. No, no. So as soon as I cut, she was like, I'm still trying to play. We don't go this way. I was like, he was like, let's go this way. Like where you can overlook the pool. Like why? Whose vehicle are you trying to hide from me in the back? Who showed up while we were at the pool and he was like, well [00:39:00] fine. So we walk around and then all of a sudden he just randomly bolts off into the room and I'm like, what are you doing? Why did you go? Surprise! It was a beautiful moment. That was so beautiful. I was proud of us last weekend. We didn't tell anybody. We didn't tell anybody. We kept that one tight. I had did a podcast. I had to say me. I, and I kept thinking it, but I was, I think it actually slipped. 'cause I, that's what he said. That's what Rob told me. Rob said that he heard you slip. Yeah. Only one. He's the only one who caught it before I showed up. He was like. You sneaky. I'm like, what are you talking about? Like we've been tightlipped about this. Yeah, it got, it got let loose by when when people went to Trap. We came out. Y'all are good at Secret keeping too. Y'all are. We tried. We come out. It took him a minute to realize that was you guys. I see these dapper people. He's got a nice suit on. Like, man, they're dressed really nice and I kept looking. I seen the car and I was like. That's Russ. She squealed and ran to the car. I'm like, you son a gun. Nothing. Nothing. Nothing is better than our other friend that got really excited and started bolting across the parking lot. But plug came [00:40:00] flying out. That's how much excitement your surprises bring to people. When y'all show up, just a backstory for a second, Last weekend, last weekend, we were all together at Trapeze. Two nights in a row, we celebrated birthdays. We had First Friday and Russ wasn't planning on coming, but Russ surprised everybody and got the whole weekend with us all off. So if you know, we're, that's what we're talking about is we were all able to spend a weekend together last weekend finally, which we enjoy when we can. We need to. When we can. It's always great when you're together. I mean, you able to, you go, I heard that so many times this weekend, was like, you're just such a different person with Russ there. You're amazing when you're by yourself, but when you are with him, you're complete. Just add that extra. Extra. I heard that so many times. I was like, well, this is what we prefer. So good. Because you're more comfortable. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Safer. Feel safer. Your security blanket there. That's your, yeah, and we talk about like evolving for her. Like I've seen your growth from first Glow to now. Like you've navigated it and you've grown with your own confidence too, too. [00:41:00] But, but, But still, when you're, when you're better half is around. Oh yeah. It's always better. Preferred for sure. Rapid fire questions my ass. Sorry. Sorry, we can't rapid fire anything. All right, detour. If you had to describe your vibe as a couple in three words, what would they be? Real fast. Energy, awkward, beautiful. Beautiful, amazing. Perfect. Who's more adventurous in trying new things? I'm normally along for the ride and I will go along, but he is the one who comes up with all the ideas and I'm just like, okay, let's go. I've, I have a hell of an imagination and hey, what if we do this and what ha let's, let's bring this and evolve. What is your favorite way to celebrate wins together? Just spending time with each other. We'll go out, you know, I think everyone has that celebratory like dinner and all that. We reflect, we talk afterwards and how did we win? What made that happen? [00:42:00] And try to recall everything and just kind of replay it, talk about it kind of subject to remote. Like we, we did it, we made it. If you could relive one day in your relationship, what day would that be? Wedding? Yeah. I would say our wedding day. A hundred percent. That was a long time coming on the beach, Friday the 13th. Very on brand. Perfect. We like the, the creepy vibe, the superstition, all that. And yeah, I'd relive that one. Yep. Percent. All right, so we're just about outta time before we leave. What do you hope people take away from this podcast episode? That even if you feel like you don't truly belong to keep at it. They're out there. Your people will come. Your, your circle will come. Just it takes time. Just be like she said, be your most authentic self. Don't try to be anything else. Don't try to put a facade on a, a personality. Just be yourself. Your people are out there. Okay. Don't give up on what you want out of [00:43:00] life. Chase it. And don't compare yourself to everybody else. What is it? Comparison is the thief of joy. Yeah. Don't compare yourself to everybody else. Your journey is your journey. It's one of Sam's wise words that resonated with me this summer, and I replayed so many times. Don't look at what other people have or how far along they are in this journey, or what they've accomplished or not. No, this is you and your partners, or if you're a solo, you know, this is what you make it. Just be authentic, be real, be compassionate. Be respectful to one another. And just love one another. And have fun. Have fun. That's what it's all for. That's what we're here for. Be goofy. Have a good. Put yourself in situations to be seen, and just take a chance. Take a chance. Let your hair down. Say hi to those people. You never know. The people sitting next to you on the couch in some random hotel room with people you don't know. Might be your best friends. Naked strangers, flogging. And then just the paddle. It starts with curiosity. Ass in your face. and we've met so many and we can never [00:44:00] thank this lifestyle. We can never thank y'all enough for what y'all have given us and granted us. And the same. We're able to see and accomplish because of y'all's advice. Same. Y'all are, and other people watching this that we're friends with that y'all have given us so much. We like it here a lot. And then, do you have anything coming up, anything exciting that you are looking forward to? Pineapples After Dark Enchanted. Yep. Low ticket sales right now. They're selling fast. October 25th. October 25th. Hotel takeover. Got a little rooftop party. It's gonna be good. Little spooky, real witchy vibes. Dark settings, DJs. Come on, have fun. Yeah. And then the following, we'll all be at Secrets. Then we'll be at Secrets the first week for iCandy, their Halloween special. Looking forward to that. So birthday. Be a good time. We're gonna party and let's have fun, make more memories. And then we will link all the other socials so you can follow them and get to know them a little bit more on social media and all of that. We'll have that tagged below. But thank you guys for being here. That was so good. Thanks so much for having us. That was beautiful. That's exactly why we wanted you guys here. We needed that. We've talked about it awhile. We needed that. [00:45:00] This was, this was a long time. We needed that piece in, in our podcast. So thank you for doing this, having us, all of that. But we love you so much. Same. We love you guys too. And as always, it's not that serious. Don't make it weird. We love you guys. Bye. Bye.