Living Bi and Bold: Real Talk with Kyle and Ashley === [00:00:00] This Week..... on Hot. Couple. Chronicles Just be true to yourself and if it's something you think you wanna try, definitely be honest with your spouse. I feel like there's too many men even that have commented on TikTok and they're just like, I'm afraid what my wife's gonna say. She might really like it. Because I know a lot of women that like wish their husbands were because they're like ooh. Yes, that's me a hundred percent. I'm like, that is so hot. I am here for it. I really think it's like you still need to ask for consent every time, even if you did something an hour ago, like I still feel like you should, I'll just never understand why you think you can touch people without asking, I just don't. It's literally just about you being your most honest, authentic self and people accepting that. Yeah. And not everyone's gonna love you and not everyone has to, but you find the ones you know that you can be yourself around and those are the people. Welcome to Hot Couple Chronicles, a [00:01:00] podcast exploring the swinging lifestyle. Our discussions may contain explicit content and adult themes intended for mature audiences. While we strive to offer valuable insights and entertainment, please be aware that the views expressed are based on personal experiences and opinions. We encourage listeners to approach the content with an open mind and to prioritize communication, consent, and respect in their relationships. Remember, everyone's journey is unique, so take what resonates with you and leave what doesn't. Thank you for joining us on our adventure. ​ I'm Russ. And I'm Ashley. And this [00:02:00] is Hot Couple Chronicles. We are here today. We are joined with Ashley and Kyle- NCHotWife and DrtyMaxx. You might know them as different things, but they are a bisexual couple in the lifestyle. We haven't had that on yet, so I'm excited to talk more about that. And they also create content and just started a podcast on YouTube called, BiTheWay, which is exciting. How has that been going? How's everything been going? Uh, a very big learning experience. Isn't it? So before we get started, just kind of tell us a little bit about yourselves and your story. Okay, so we are high school sweethearts, we've been together since we were 16 and 17. Yep. We got engaged young at 18, got married at 21. We started in the life, well, we started talking about the lifestyle probably, my gosh, probably six or seven years ago. Yeah. We talked about it for, oh my gosh, [00:03:00] probably a good two years before we ever actually did anything in the lifestyle. I think that if we wouldn't, like, I think it was just, are we gonna do this or not? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. How long are we gonna talk about this for before you know? Yeah. 'cause we just kind of jumped in both feet. Yeah, it's good. It's a good thing. Take your time. That's what we always say. That's a good thing. Slower the better. I think I was kind of hesitant, Yeah. Just because we were high school sweethearts. We had never been with anybody before. So that was a big like question mark for us then. We started the lifestyle because he wanted to see me with somebody else. Yeah. And then we kind of did single guys and couples. Yeah. We're not, it's not so much in, like, we've never really done anything with, oh, I guess we've done something with one unicorn, but. You never sought [00:04:00] it out. Yes. Yeah. Us either. Yeah. That's kind of our dynamic. Yeah. We've had a couple unicorns around in group settings and stuff like that, but never. Think that's the only it's ever is in the group setting. Yeah. Yeah. And then, the bisexuality part, how did that come about? When did you realize that you might be bi? Kyle? Ashley? Both of you? Yeah, both of you. I think that's really what. We started with doing that. 'cause our first experience was with another guy and it was in a bi setting. Mm-hmm. That's what I was wondering if it was lifestyle. Yes. Yeah. When you found out. Yeah, I mean, I didn't have any, I mean, I guess like couple years before we did anything, like I had some like curiosities about it. Yeah, you know, just kinda searching on the internet and was like, Hey, this is, this is kind of hot. yeah, yeah, yeah. Um. I think I just always had that curiosity, like that's when I wanted to watch something. That's what I was searching for. Yeah. Yes. I get that for sure. And [00:05:00] then being in the lifestyle and being bi, how do you navigate your rules and boundaries together and how did you kind of figure that all out? I feel like we talked about it. a lot. Yeah. Especially in the beginning, I feel like, I don't know, I feel like we talk about it more now than we ever do. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But more so just some of it was trial and error, I would say, Yeah. But we were pretty firm on like, doing things in the same room and group chats and mm-hmm. I think those were pretty much the same. Yeah. Yeah. Hard, um, like yes, like have to do. Yeah. And then we talked a little bit at the beginning about your content creation and all of that. How did that come about? When did you get onto social media and how did that start? Oh gosh. It was actually the first time we went to Trapeze. It was like, what? That was the first time we met you guys. Ashley introduced herself by sitting [00:06:00] in Kyle's lap in the back seat. Yeah, on the way to Trapeze. Nice to meet you. No, no more seats. So that's the way we do it. But everybody, I guess, yeah, everybody was just like, like, you don't have one? You don't have one? We joked about it for years. Yeah, we joked about it for a long time and one day I was like, let's just do it. Like everybody at Trap is like, oh my gosh, you have to do it. And I'm like, let's do it. that's, that's how I started. Yeah. Was everyone's like, everyone is doing it, so why? Well, was kind of crazy not to. Made it just so they could record. Yeah. It was so they could tag us. It was for people to, that's how our started and yeah. And then I was like, well, I guess, I mean, I'm might as well do it too if I'm making it, but all but yeah. Yeah. Hey there listeners. Are you looking to prioritize your sexual health and wellness? We've got just a thing for you. Shameless care offers at-home testing kits, telehealth, consultations, and even treatment for ed, and [00:07:00] performance anxiety for when you wanna play, but your body says otherwise. It's convenient. Discreet and all about keeping you at your best. And guess what? We've teamed up with them to give you an exclusive discount. Use code hot. That's code HOT at checkout to get $30 off your first order. Don't walk, run. It's time to take charge of your sexual health today with Shameless care because your health is nothing to be ashamed of. All right. So how has your journey, as a couple, influenced the content that you make? Like if it might be social media or even the spicy content? I would definitely say as far as spicy content, we definitely, we don't do anything content creation wise, content that we wouldn't like, anything we wouldn't do on camera, we're not gonna do off camera or vice versa. Yeah. The other way around. Yeah. Sorry. The other [00:08:00] way around. Yeah. So if we camera on, off, whatever those things are, they're always the same. There's nothing different that we're going to do on camera. And social media, I don't know. Social media is very. Yeah. It's the wild, wild west. Relationship. Yes. Yeah, yeah. Oh yeah, yeah. I dunno. I feel like We, we try to do like, I don't wanna say like all thirst traps and stuff like that, but like you have to. We do a lot of couple comedy. Stuff like that. Yeah. It's really a balance. You wanna educate, you wanna advocate, you wanna do a good message for lifestyle, but then you have, you know, it's still Instagram and TikTok and you wanna keep up with the trends, and you want to go viral and you wanna get those views and people mad and people talking. And you know, so it's that constant, yeah . It still blows me away that as soon as somebody gets mad it starts like this avalanche. Those are the videos that get the 500,000, million, 2 [00:09:00] million views. Yeah. I'm like, this is insane. I can get a thousand beautiful, you're great, amazing, you're doing wonderful and will do nothing. And then all the shame comments. Yeah. And you've got millions of views on that sucker. And so, yeah. I completely understand. It's like staying true to yourself, you're trying to be yourself, but you also gotta constantly, it's social media. Yeah. You gotta, you gotta do all the stuff too. You gotta be a little cringey. You gotta be a little bit weird to get somewhere there. Yeah. Yeah. So have there been any misconceptions being a bi couple that you've run into? The one thing I always get a lot from with is single guys that like we might seek out to either play with, make content with, they always think that I will bottom and it's like, okay, there are bi couples out there that the guy doesn't do that. Like mm-hmm. Yeah. It's like you gotta understand, like maybe just ask what your play style and know, [00:10:00] bi is, instead of just assuming. Yeah. I was actually kind of going to ask that next was so from the beginning to where you guys are now, have you become more just comfortable and open as you've navigated everything? Oh yeah, for sure. For sure. Yeah, yeah, because I mean, we had our first experience was with a bi guy, and that was, gosh, probably five years ago. Yeah, five or six. Yeah. And publicly, you didn't say anything about being bi until, my gosh, it was like 20, it was like two or three years ago maybe. Yeah. three years ago. It was like 2023 or something. Yeah, So it was, I thought was like, Hey, like, you yeah. I'm cool with this. And how have you, have you noticed the lifestyle itself changing how people view being a bi male? Has it gotten better over time or have you seen it kind of stay the same? I don't know if it's gotten any better? I definitely notice more guys that are kind of coming out, coming outta the wood works mostly. Yeah. Yeah. I've [00:11:00] noticed that. Yeah. Yeah. Well, like, advertising yet. They're just like, Yeah. They'll say something to me or something like that. Like, Hey, like kind of curious about this. But they're, they still kind afraid to, Mm-hmm. I noticed like a lot of people that we know are. Becoming more open. Yeah. That they're curious that they. We know a lot of bi couples and either the woman or the man is bi curious. Yeah. Like they've always leaned towards straight and now we're like, I think I might like this. I'm just okay. Yeah. Explore it. Yeah. I do like that, I mean, at least now I guess people are more comfortable. Yeah. Yeah, I do think it's like slow. I don't think it's made like a drastic change. You can slowly see it coming around. Yeah, yeah. Unfortunately, when we first started, it was a lot of, A lot of that in our experience. Yeah. I mean, I remember being in a group setting and another [00:12:00] guy just accidentally like brushing against another guy, and the guy freaked out. I'm like, we're all naked. Like you have to be a little bit okay. What? I'm like, like, oh, the, it, it blew me away in certain settings. Like kind of like the homophobia of a lot of people and that was one of the first like hypocrisies we called out in the lifestyle. We say we're open and we're honest, but when it comes to men that are being openly bi, there's this negative stigma, like, oh, they're just gay. Like, no, it's like you're good with your wife being bi, but it's not okay for her husband to be bi either? It was such a weird dichotomy that I was Yeah. Watching. I'm like, what the heck's going on right now? Yeah. it doesn't make any sense. No. Looking to add some excitement to your social life? Meet 3Fun. The free app that connects to open-minded singles and couples for fun adventures with thousands of active users. Three, fun is our ticket to [00:13:00] new friendships, flirty encounters, and unforgettable experiences. The best part, it's completely free to use. No hidden fees or subscriptions. Ready to join the Fun Download 3Fun app now from the App Store or Google Play Store and start connecting with like-minded individuals in your area. Don't miss out on the excitement. Find the link below and get started with 3Fun today. What advice would you give for someone that is curious and wants to experiment but has experienced some misconceptions? I mean, just be honest with yourself. Just try whatever. I mean, at the end of the day, it's whatever makes you and your spouse happy. Yeah, I mean, we all gotta, you know, respect each other and the lifestyle. But at the same time, don't worry about what other people think of you. As long as you're happy. Yeah. Just be true to yourself and if it's something you think you wanna try, definitely be honest with your spouse. I feel like there's too many men [00:14:00] even that have commented on TikTok and they're just like, I'm afraid what my wife's gonna say. Yeah. She should be your like biggest supporter. Like talk to her. That's your best friend. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I can never wrap my head around it. Yeah. I mean, one of our first lifestyle experiences was a lot of men that were on the DL or married men. Mm-hmm. That we were running into. And it's like, why is, where's your, why don't you just bring your wife with you? Like, why do we have to hide this? You never know. She might really like it. Because I know a lot of women that like wish their husbands were because they're like ooh. Yes, that's me a hundred percent. I'm like, that is so hot. I am here for it. Uh, I don't understand it. I just don't understand how people don't, especially this like all of that is just so hot. So I don't get it. Do you guys have any lessons or tips that you wish you knew before that you know now? Just in lifestyle in [00:15:00] general? Just in general. May, I don't know that this is now, like this isn't something that personally like I've done. This was something that was experienced to me is that, just because you go to a club, you have fun with somebody, you go back to that same club, you see them again, there's not an automatic assumption of like, I did something last time we're doing something this time. Yeah, I, I really think it's like you still need to ask for consent every time, even if you did something an hour ago, like I still feel like you should, especially if, I don't know, I feel like you can almost tell. It's not like a forever hall pass. Right. Essentially. Yeah, yeah, I feel like that's something people don't necessarily know But that was all consent. Consent. Yeah, consent. Well, that's something we've ran into here relatively recently where we have gotten really close with a group of people [00:16:00] and we're all just really comfortable with each other, we've had the conversations and yeah, they see one of the guys do something to Ashley or me do something to one of their wives, and then people just assume like, oh, she likes that. I'm gonna try that. It's like, no. Yeah, no. We've stopped full play sessions. Oh yeah. 'Cause somebody touched somebody without consent. Yeah. Numerous times in the last six months. I'll just never understand why you think you can touch people without asking, I just don't. Yeah. Yeah. I even said this lady at Secrets one time. Oh my gosh. I will never forget this woman. I won't say, I don't even know what her name is, but she came up to me, behind me. We were in the club at Secrets. She came up to me and she grabbed me and she touched me, and she's like. I know I'm not supposed to touch you, but I just can't. I just can't help it. Yeah, yeah. You can help it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Unfortunately, I've had a lot of problems more with women with that because women just think that they get free reign. Well, I [00:17:00] think part of that too, and Kyle might agree, is as a man, we've had to navigate those waters our entire lives. Like that was one of the biggest challenges when we got in lifestyle, is I wanted to be able to talk to women but not come off as predatory. Like I'm like, just wanted to get to know you, you know? And if anything happens, it's great, but if not, yeah, it's whatever. Like that was my biggest thing is like I didn't wanna come off as that creepy guy that's just. Yeah. Yeah. And honestly, like, I feel like most people probably think that you come off as, I don't know if I can say that a word, an a-hole. You can say anything you want. This is our platform. Like I'm like so reserved. Like yes. Just like, we might hang around with each other for, you know, a dozen times, but I'm still not gonna come up and like, put my hand on your back, like, come up and grab you because I'm like, I don't know how she's gonna be feeling. So I like lean so far on the other [00:18:00] end of just being so reserved essentially when I'm around other lifestyle people. Yeah. But then also in the sense some people take that as like, oh, you're not really interested. Oh, he's not interested in me, Yeah, kind of, and it's not that. It's just who he is. I run into that a lot too. Yeah. Right. Yeah. I, people just think I'm never interested in anybody. 'cause I'm just quiet. I'm just quiet. I observe, I'm shy. I just, I, I watch, I watch people and you have to really, and plus I don't really notice if you're flirting with me. I am completely oblivious. So. I just sit back, I learned my lesson. She'll be like, oh, that person was so nice. They're all so nice. I was like, they're all so nice. 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Hands down. Favorite club. It's great. Yeah. We [00:20:00] love it there. Yeah, I know. Breakfast, dinner, I know. Buffet. That. Period. That's worth the entry fee right there. We, yeah. Big fans. That's our, well, our home club. It really is what you make it there. like Yeah. Secrets is, Secrets is fun. Yeah. But man is a, it's a lot exhausting. It's exhausting. Yeah. Between the pool party during the day and then like. Yeah, and I feel the same way with hotel takeovers and stuff. If you wanna low key, like it could be a crazy night or it could be just you just hanging out eating dinner. Date night. That could be whatever you want it to be. All right? What has been your most empowering moment being open about your sexuality in lifestyle? I don't wanna answer for you, but like. Just like all the, like when you came out as being bi, like all of the people that reached out and were like, oh my gosh, I wish [00:21:00] I like, I wish I could do this. Like, I wish I could be as strong as you or wish my wife was, you know, on board for that. I feel like that's just what you've told me About it. Mine's kind of the same, like when, whether we're gonna be like at a lifestyle event or possibly like work with people or something like that, and then all of a sudden the guy will message and be like, Hey, like, you know, we're, we're down with this if you want to. And it's like, uh, Yeah, like. Today we're gonna, yeah, we're going to work in Texas this weekend, and the, the guy was like what are you, or I always ask like, it's an MFM situation. What are you okay with? Like, 'cause some people are not okay with like their dicks touching. Yeah, let's be honest. Yeah. Um, he was like, no. I'm like, I'm good with this. And I'm like, oh my gosh. Like, this is great. Yeah. yeah, we're going to work in Texas this weekend, and the, the guy was like what are you, or [00:22:00] I always ask like, it's an MFM situation. What are you okay with? Like, 'cause some people are not okay with like their dicks touching. Yeah, let's be honest. Yeah. Um, he was like, no. I'm like, I'm good with this. And I'm like, oh my gosh. Like, this is great. Yeah. Yeah, speaking of that, what is your favorite place that you've been to create content? I would say our favorite place, place that we probably Tampa. I was gonna say Miami. Oh yeah. I forgot. Like we've been to X, XBIZ in Miami, which is always, but that's because he likes Miami because his favorite video of me with somebody. That's, that's not it. Yeah, I just, that's just a small piece of it. It's a souvenir you got from there. Definitely Florida for sure. Yeah. Oh, I can see that. And then first time creating spicy content together, any special memory or [00:23:00] awkward story? Oh my gosh. It was, It was, in Atlanta? Yeah. Yeah. I was like, I think I'm pretty sure I remember that being your first, yeah. It was in Atlanta. It was not my first with somebody else. But it was your first with somebody else. Yeah. And it was the first time creating content and first time full swap. Yes. All in one. Yeah. And. That's a lot. It was a lot. Mm-hmm. It was overwhelming, especially like being in a house with all of those people too was overwhelming. Um, but it was great. Like I feel like it, it was a great experience and it just, that great experience opened so much to me, so many more doors for us, I guess you could say. Yeah, I was gonna ask are you gonna talk about the Wish mansion? That's just a memory itself. That's like a core memory. Pulling up, I'm like, oh, this house is great. And then we go back behind the nice house, you're in the garage. There was like nothing in there. There was like, no TVs [00:24:00] worked, furniture was, the bed fell apart. We had the bunk beds. Everybody was like in, we had the bunk beds downstairs and the, and they had no electricity in the room, so it was a, that was just a memory for us, for sure. It was like the best, worst AirBNB. Yes. yeah, yeah, yeah. The parking lot was just like the size of a grocery store. Like it was, there was. It was different. You know? It was different. Yeah. There was a pool on the property, but we weren't allowed to use it. It was fun. It was fun. Party. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The bar. Yeah. But it was like, oh, and the quiet hours are 10:00 PM We have a dj, you guys, we have a dj. But yeah. Yeah. It was a, it was a, it was a memory. We talk about that one all the time. That was like our first real. That was intimidating. Terrifying. We ended not doing any content, 'cause we got so scared. It was, it was new and it opened our eyes. Like we talked this about this. Yeah. Just a few days ago. You were going [00:25:00] through like old, 'cause it was like a anniversary around this time. Like it was like three years ago today type stuff. Yeah. And or four year, however long ago it was. Yeah. And you were like, I was terrified this entire time. It was so scary. And I didn't, I mean, we didn't really know everybody. We know 'em online, but we didn't really know them beforehand either. So it was like the first time really being in a house full of people that you didn't know I'm, it was something, yeah, it was a memory, that's for sure. And then the next one, what is one thing you wish everyone knew about the lifestyle? It's not all about sex. Yeah. Yes. Please. Yeah. That is not it. Yeah. For us, it's about the friendships. It's not about sex.. It happens. Happens. Yeah, yeah. It's literally just about you being your most honest, authentic self and people accepting that. Yeah. And not everyone's gonna love you and not everyone has to, but you find the ones you know that you can be yourself [00:26:00] around and those are the people. That's what makes the lifestyle. And again, everyone's so nice. Everyone is so like, for the most part is just a great group of people. No matter where you're at. It's really beautiful. And that is about it. We are about out of time. Thank you so much for being here. Where can all of our listeners find you? Let 'em know all the things coming up, what you got going on? Go ahead, nchotwife.com, that's where everything's at, yep. And then your podcast is, BiTheWay, It is, it's um, BiTheWay. B-I the Way and on YouTube you have to put 25. It's, BiTheWay25. It's also an Apple podcast and Spotify as well. We'll have all of that linked below for all of our listeners and everything. We appreciate you being here. It's been a minute since we've seen you guys. It's good to see your faces. We've known you forever, but barely get to hang out or talk, so it's sad. Like they were one of the original people that learned that we are horrible at group messages. Oh yeah. [00:27:00] Oh yeah, yeah. We're the worst. We're the worst. We just can't. It's like, oh, they think we hate them. I'm like, that's just how we are. It's just us. Life is lifeing and we're the worst. But yes, thank you so much for being here and for being so open and all of your stuff that you're doing. You're doing amazing. I love watching it all. And we cheer you on all the time. We love seeing you guys growing and changing, and, love you guys and thank you for being here. And as always, it's not that serious. Don't make it weird. Love it guys. Bye. Bye.