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973 | Blue Jays Dominate, ALCS Game 4 and NLCS Game 3 Preview

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yes, we are going live a little bit earlier.

[SPEAKER_04]: Hopefully we don't jinx it, but they do have a 10 run lead and Vladimir Guerrero Jr.

[SPEAKER_04]: another double as soon as we press record button.

[SPEAKER_03]: come on now.

[SPEAKER_03]: All right, you're going to give us the run down of this game as it stands right now, but before you do that, Shadow Little DJ on YouTube that said early sleep, baby.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, early sleep for a lot of people around America.

[SPEAKER_03]: If you are a diehard baseball fan, and this is the premier sporting event on Wednesday night, although Thursday, it's going to be the premier sport event too.

[SPEAKER_04]: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, for balls, Steelers, Bengals.

[SPEAKER_04]: My eyes are glued to the two baseball games that we're also going [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I don't even want to hear it because viewers ship us up.

[SPEAKER_04]: It's baseball season.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Steelers, Mangles is not going to do anything for me.

[SPEAKER_03]: Burrow had surgery on turf toes.

[SPEAKER_03]: That right.

[SPEAKER_03]: Before you get to the game run down, I just want to say unfortunately, I'm a loser that doesn't know ball because roughly four or five hours before first pitch of this one, there was a video that went out across just baseball, social platforms effectively, [SPEAKER_03]: saying that I said loosely that the Mariners would sweep Toronto and the series was already over.

[SPEAKER_03]: That's just not the case right now.

[SPEAKER_03]: Tell us how it happened.

[SPEAKER_04]: Let's do it.

[SPEAKER_04]: So who we're on Regas open the scoring in the first?

[SPEAKER_04]: And the Seattle crowd went crazy.

[SPEAKER_04]: After George Kirby silenced the Jay's bats in the first, that two run shot felt like the dagger.

[SPEAKER_04]: And Jack, it seemed like it might be right.

[SPEAKER_04]: boy, where you wrong.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, the jays answered right back in the third inning with a two run shot of his own and then a wild pitch led in the third run.

[SPEAKER_04]: Don't varshow came to the plate.

[SPEAKER_04]: And before I continue the run down, I was thinking that maybe that's the time to bring in Gabe Spire.

[SPEAKER_04]: George Kirby did not look great.

[SPEAKER_04]: It looked like the blue jays are really [SPEAKER_04]: 12, too.

[SPEAKER_04]: I'm not sure if it would have mattered, but I did feel like a pitching change was necessary there, especially in the playoffs where we've seen managers take out their starters quickly, especially because Brian Woo.

[SPEAKER_04]: Looks like he'll be available to pitch game five.

[SPEAKER_04]: You have Luis Castillo tomorrow.

[SPEAKER_04]: I know it's three straight games so you don't want to burn your bullpen.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, but it did feel like all right, the wheels are starting to fall off.

[SPEAKER_04]: Let's get out of our show.

[SPEAKER_04]: Let's bring inspire.

[SPEAKER_04]: I did say that in the moment.

[SPEAKER_04]: I hate Monday morning quarterbacking where it's like after the fact, oh, you should have brought it in.

[SPEAKER_04]: But I did feel like right there that should have been the decision from Dan Wilson.

[SPEAKER_03]: I mean the other element to that is Kirby's finger was bleeding the whole night like Kirby kept on going to his hip and you could see the bloodstained there so he was clearly trying to throw through something whether that was a blister or like a nail issue I have no idea.

[SPEAKER_03]: But it did feel a little weird.

[SPEAKER_03]: And if there was a day for a premature hook, it was probably today, especially given the off day yesterday and Bryce Miller giving you supreme length in game one.

[SPEAKER_03]: I understand Logan Gilbert only went three innings in game two, but that's okay because he had a day off.

[SPEAKER_03]: I also understand Dan Wilson's perspective saying, okay, we're already looking a little shot today.

[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, we have two more back to back like this is three straight games and you're going to need to go to your leverage arm.

[SPEAKER_03]: So I sort of kind of understand like that's my devil's advocate there for keeping Kirby in this is day one of three consecutive games at your place, but I'm with you for the most part like this also felt like a day where a short leash could absolutely have been the thing.

[SPEAKER_04]: I guess my pushback to that would be, you said it was already kind of getting away.

[SPEAKER_04]: Like it was three to two at that moment when that passball came in and then don't varshoes coming up.

[SPEAKER_04]: If you're able to slam that down now, man, or that felt a little too early for me.

[SPEAKER_03]: But it was like on the heels of, you know, the five run in and why do you run them back out there for the fourth and fifth?

[SPEAKER_04]: No, that's understandable.

[SPEAKER_04]: All right, let's keep it going.

[SPEAKER_04]: So again, don't Varsho came to the plate.

[SPEAKER_04]: I thought they should have gone to Spire, but who knows with how these bats were going.

[SPEAKER_04]: Varsho doubled to plate two more to give the jays a five to two lead and then the wheels just fell off.

[SPEAKER_04]: Spring or homework in the fourth, his third of the postseason and now the only players with more postseason home runs in history.

[SPEAKER_04]: or Mani Ramirez, Jose Al Tuve, and Kyle Schwarber as he tied Bernie Williams with 22 playoff jacks tied for fourth all time.

[SPEAKER_04]: Ladi joined the party with his fourth home run of the postseason and Ernie Clemente stayed red hot with an RBI single through Ernie Clemente's first 20 atbats.

[SPEAKER_04]: He was hitting 500.

[SPEAKER_04]: That is the highest batting average in MLB history through a player's first 20 A.B.'s.

[SPEAKER_04]: Runch has kept coming.

[SPEAKER_04]: Nathan Lucas brought in a run and then Alejandro Kirk had a three run home run.

[SPEAKER_04]: His third of the posties and to push the score to 12 to two after six innings, Shane Bieber settled down.

[SPEAKER_04]: Those two runs he allowed to, Kulirad Riga's, the only runs he gave up.

[SPEAKER_04]: That's got to feel good for Shane Bieber, not only to help his team, but he is a free agent after the season.

[SPEAKER_04]: Every one of these starts matters, especially because he's still returning from his past homogen surgery.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, this had to be Shane Beaver's probably aside from his season debut, where he carved in Miami, this probably had to make him feel as good as any other start he's had in the Blue Jays uniform to this point with the build up through the end of the regular season and with the dominance after a rough start, like the ability to bounce back after a first inning home run and a first inning punch in the mouth.

[SPEAKER_03]: is really impressive and really only a veteran can do that.

[SPEAKER_03]: I don't think that young pictures are bouncing back from that crowd pop after the Julio Rodriguez Homer as effectively as Bieber did bounce back from that.

[SPEAKER_03]: It's tough.

[SPEAKER_03]: It's really tough.

[SPEAKER_03]: And like, if Treya Savage allowed that home run to Julio Rodriguez, I don't know if this start is going this well, but Shane Bieber recalibrated good job by him and Bieber.

[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, it was 8K's one walk.

[SPEAKER_03]: That's really solid and that is the second such start that they've had of eight or more punchouts, two or fewer earned runs, this postseason.

[SPEAKER_03]: It was him and you savage.

[SPEAKER_03]: He was amazing against the Yankees, but not amazing against Seattle.

[SPEAKER_03]: So I thought this was Bieber's probably second best work of the season.

[SPEAKER_03]: And you're thinking first, was his debut in Miami?

[SPEAKER_04]: Absolutely.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, and Bieber too, you got to feel good if you're a BlueJace fan because if you are able to push this series to seven games, which of course can happen, right, I remember we talked about this in the last episode, John Marosi pointed out that the Texas Rangers.

[SPEAKER_04]: They either won or lost the first two games of their series, and then either they or the other team won three straight and ended up pushing it to seven games and they won that series.

[SPEAKER_04]: I think they won the first two games at home, then lost three on the road.

[SPEAKER_04]: Fact check me.

[SPEAKER_04]: We got people new YouTube comments.

[SPEAKER_04]: Again, appreciate you guys coming in.

[SPEAKER_04]: So of course, we got more runs.

[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, Randy Rhodes, the rain is just homework 12.

[SPEAKER_04]: Nice.

[SPEAKER_04]: Should we get off the show and maybe watch the game?

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[SPEAKER_04]: right because really the only he made one mistake to Hulu Rodriguez really put together a great outing and that knuckle curve was really working the slide it was working and a typical beaver just pinpoint placing a worry wants to and especially after you savage should have that great of a start like knowing God's been did beaver did let's see what Scherzer does tomorrow but it's got to be a big confidence booster to not only beaver but their fans [SPEAKER_03]: you mentioned classic beaver like okay he was pinpointing he wasn't pinpointing early he settled into a rhythm where he was pinpointing so really good job by Shane Bieber again finding that rhythm it all stems from the breaking ball for me with beaver but like the fastball is really important too we've seen him dominate with 91 and 90 he's back at 94 and you feel like the further and further he gets away from Tommy John surgery [SPEAKER_03]: He's going to continue to dot 94 heck if he's running up to 95 consistently.

[SPEAKER_03]: I understand why Buster only said that he feels like Bieber could be the prize possession of the free agent pitching market.

[SPEAKER_03]: Bieber's going to get a hundred million dollars from somebody.

[SPEAKER_03]: And it starts like this that clearly tell you what happened.

[SPEAKER_04]: Colorado just over to 124.

[SPEAKER_03]: Now, my bad man, this is big.

[SPEAKER_04]: It was not the matter right now.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yario Rodriguez just give it up, Jacks.

[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, he's throwing the ball in the strikes under the Mariners of just teen off right now.

[SPEAKER_03]: Like, which he has a problem of doing some, or he has a problem not doing some times.

[SPEAKER_04]: There's also just something about the playoffs that I never think of teams out of it.

[SPEAKER_04]: Like, this is a regular season game that's over.

[SPEAKER_04]: But there's just a feeling where you're like, what if, even though they're really, they're down eight, they're down eight.

[SPEAKER_04]: they're down.

[SPEAKER_03]: They have what five outs to work with here.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yes, so there are one out in the bottom of the eight.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, five outs to go.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, there you go.

[SPEAKER_04]: I want to talk about the Jay's offense.

[SPEAKER_03]: He's clearly and I do bring up what I said just clearly the story here.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, 100% I do want to bring out this great note from our Twitter team at just baseball.

[SPEAKER_03]: There have been, as I pull this [SPEAKER_03]: BlueJays have done it three to the five times.

[SPEAKER_03]: They are the breakout offense in baseball in this postseason in this month of October and I credit to the BlueJays for being able to score in bunches.

[SPEAKER_03]: I'm just wondering where were they in the first two games here?

[SPEAKER_03]: They were not touching anything from the second inning onwards in the front two games and now it's just an absolute onslaught from Toronto.

[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, that's baseball, isn't it?

[SPEAKER_04]: Like that's, a team will look walled to sleep and then they have a day off to, you know, re-engage.

[SPEAKER_04]: And when you got a guy like George Kirby arm was talking about it yesterday and his analysis honestly confused me in a good way.

[SPEAKER_04]: He was saying that Kirby is in the zone so much for a team like the BlueJays that could either be a really good thing or a really bad thing.

[SPEAKER_04]: right because what's been happening to the Blue J's offense and the first two games of this series.

[SPEAKER_04]: They're getting strikes pounded.

[SPEAKER_04]: There's not doing anything with them, which is strange because in the Yankee series.

[SPEAKER_04]: You threw anything in the zone and this team was popping it out of the ball park or you know shooting a double down the line or even a blue base hit they were getting all types of hits.

[SPEAKER_04]: But in the first two games, that was nowhere to be found.

[SPEAKER_04]: And then you have George Kirby who all he does is throw strikes sets records for lowest walk rates in Major League baseball.

[SPEAKER_04]: So you knew he was going to pound his own and what did they do?

[SPEAKER_04]: Jumped all over him.

[SPEAKER_04]: And clearly, [SPEAKER_04]: his finger, when he was going to his hip, it might have been bleeding a little bit, was making that sinker kind of a meatball.

[SPEAKER_04]: And we saw what the blue jays were doing against it.

[SPEAKER_03]: He was also missing upstairs a lot early.

[SPEAKER_03]: Did you notice that?

[SPEAKER_03]: Like, he was sailing heaters a lot.

[SPEAKER_04]: It was in kind of falling right into the middle of the barrel.

[SPEAKER_03]: It was a barrel, it was over the heart of the plate, but then it was also like neck high and eye high.

[SPEAKER_03]: It felt like some of those top rail fastballs were not top rail fastballs.

[SPEAKER_03]: They were sailing.

[SPEAKER_03]: a little bit on him.

[SPEAKER_03]: So this impeccable command guy was clearly fighting something.

[SPEAKER_03]: And it feels like he was fighting his finger.

[SPEAKER_03]: He could have also been fighting something mechanically.

[SPEAKER_03]: But it was just a long night for George Kirby and credit to the Blue Jays for capitalizing on a non-optimal Kirby.

[SPEAKER_03]: Like it takes two there where Kirby might not have the best stuff, but you also have to make him pay [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, at the end of the day, like they're too good a team to get away with suboptimal stuff, if you don't have light-bowd stuff like a Gilbert or, you know, even a Brian Wu, Kirby doesn't have that.

[SPEAKER_03]: Kirby's a pitch to contact.

[SPEAKER_03]: I know the punchouts have kind of been there in droves as of late, but that's not who he is in his core, like in his bones.

[SPEAKER_03]: And he didn't have his best stuff.

[SPEAKER_03]: And the blue jays didn't miss it.

[SPEAKER_03]: So credit to Toronto for not missing Kirby's C or D stuff.

[SPEAKER_04]: And I've been saying it all all postseason.

[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, this offense revolves around Vladi.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, and if I'm not mistaken, that was his fourth head of the night that double that he just hit.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, he was, and he was a triple shy, the cycle too.

[SPEAKER_03]: So apparently he was like sprinting around second, trying to pull into three for a triple in the cycle, but he held up at second.

[SPEAKER_03]: So two doubles in a forehead deck, that would have been electric.

[SPEAKER_04]: But I was on Toronto Sports Network today and we were talking about Vladimir Grove Jr.

[SPEAKER_04]: And I was a little bit worried about him coming into this game.

[SPEAKER_04]: Paul Hemakitis shot at Hembo.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_04]: He was on baseball tonight's podcast, which he's routinely on, obviously, who does such a fantastic job, but muster only.

[SPEAKER_04]: And he said, Vladis average launch angle in this series was negative 21 degrees.

[SPEAKER_04]: He's grounding the ball straight into the ground.

[SPEAKER_04]: And I looked, what is he done against George Kirby?

[SPEAKER_04]: Average launch angle against George Kirby was negative 12.

[SPEAKER_04]: And I thought to myself, here we go again, what happens in the first act that?

[SPEAKER_04]: It's at 102 miles an hour, negative 26 to really launch regular.

[SPEAKER_04]: I thought to myself, can you hit it into the ground harder?

[SPEAKER_04]: Like a straight you're gonna kill some worms here negative 26 degrees.

[SPEAKER_04]: That's like almost impossible But he gets on but that's why I think maybe you agree at least I thought too After Hulu hit that home run.

[SPEAKER_04]: I was thinking myself.

[SPEAKER_04]: Did they just win game four also?

[SPEAKER_04]: That's how down I was on the blue jays [SPEAKER_04]: And then what does Ladi do?

[SPEAKER_04]: Next A.B.

[SPEAKER_04]: Rips a double gets under it a little bit.

[SPEAKER_04]: We see what happens when all he has to do is elevate.

[SPEAKER_04]: Skyrim's balls hard as anybody in baseball.

[SPEAKER_04]: That season, we're nearly won the triple crown.

[SPEAKER_04]: That year, he was elevating, celebrate and elevate, elevate and celebrate.

[SPEAKER_04]: But just over the past, like he only had 23 home runs this year, he gets into these rhythms, but good on him for getting out of that rhythm, getting the home run, getting these doubles, like that is something that he can build on moving into the next game.

[SPEAKER_04]: And as long as he's elevating, it's really hard to beat the blue chase, because their masters of getting guys on early, [SPEAKER_04]: And when Vlad is hitting them in, the rest of the lineup follows.

[SPEAKER_04]: Are we surprised now that don't varsho out of good day?

[SPEAKER_04]: Are we surprised that all hundred Kirk had a good day?

[SPEAKER_04]: Like, of course, it might just be coincidence, but I'm telling you, from watching the Blue Jays all year, this is a team that feeds off each other.

[SPEAKER_04]: That's why Vlad, he not only being the best player, but just what he does for the rest of the lineup is so, so important.

[SPEAKER_03]: Can I share a working theory with you that I have?

[SPEAKER_03]: Vladis had the best day, obviously, but I thought one of the more important days was Dalton Varsho as well because Varsho has not been awesome in the front two games.

[SPEAKER_03]: He was amazing in the DS.

[SPEAKER_03]: He was not amazing in the front two games of the CS, but Dalton Varsho has given us a two for five day with a two-run double as well, three-run double, Alejandro Kirk, two for four of the three-run homeer.

[SPEAKER_03]: My working theory is this and tell me if it makes literally any sense.

[SPEAKER_03]: I feel like for a team to win the world series or have an offense guide them to a world series.

[SPEAKER_03]: You need three tiers of hitters going to a certain degree.

[SPEAKER_03]: What you got, you're making a face looking up at your TV.

[SPEAKER_04]: Sorry.

[SPEAKER_04]: Addison barge should just hit a nuke.

[SPEAKER_03]: There you go.

[SPEAKER_04]: You just couldn't 30 to four.

[SPEAKER_04]: All right.

[SPEAKER_03]: 13 to four that got one back nine wrong game now.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, maybe the comeback is it's starting, but that was quite [SPEAKER_04]: crushed.

[SPEAKER_04]: Again, huge for him.

[SPEAKER_04]: He needs to get going.

[SPEAKER_04]: Everybody in the Blue Jays lineup got going.

[SPEAKER_04]: You remember the first time that happened, they put up 10 against the Yankees.

[SPEAKER_04]: Well, they do the next game 13.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, this lineup.

[SPEAKER_04]: They just feed off each other.

[SPEAKER_04]: Like, [SPEAKER_04]: This is huge for them.

[SPEAKER_04]: Huge.

[SPEAKER_04]: Sorry, I didn't mean interrupt.

[SPEAKER_03]: That was your good.

[SPEAKER_03]: He's watching this.

[SPEAKER_03]: This kind of feeds into my working theory.

[SPEAKER_03]: It tell me if this makes any sense or if it makes no sense.

[SPEAKER_03]: My working theory is this.

[SPEAKER_03]: I feel like for teams to hit their way to a world series win or just hit their way to the world series in general.

[SPEAKER_03]: You need three tiers of hitters going at a certain point.

[SPEAKER_03]: and you can tier both of these teams.

[SPEAKER_03]: Tier 1, I think two guys stand alone in both these lineups.

[SPEAKER_03]: Tier 1 for me on Seattle side is Cal Rowling, 60 homers MVP candidate.

[SPEAKER_03]: Tier 2 is Julio Rodriguez, Julio is a burgeoning superstar, it seems.

[SPEAKER_03]: Tier 3, Josh Nailer, Jorge Palanco, [SPEAKER_03]: They've got Raleigh going, Julio going, Palanco and Nail are going, so they have three tiers of hitters taken care of.

[SPEAKER_03]: Toronto.

[SPEAKER_03]: Tier one, Vladie stands alone.

[SPEAKER_03]: Vladie has more offensive ability than anybody else.

[SPEAKER_03]: And there are very good players in this blue J lineup.

[SPEAKER_03]: Tier two, I view his springer and Kirk.

[SPEAKER_03]: Two guys that established themselves is some of the best offensive pieces at their position this year.

[SPEAKER_03]: And Tier three in Toronto's lineup for me are guys like Varsho and Barcher.

[SPEAKER_03]: And if you've got each tier going where you have Vladdy, Springer, Kirk, and Varsho going, that's an offense that can win a world series, where at least get to a world series.

[SPEAKER_03]: The Dodgers are getting by without that right now, because Otani is their tier one hitter and their tier one hitter is not hitting right now, but their tier three guys hitting like a tier one guy and Teyosk are her and this.

[SPEAKER_03]: and then I look at Milwaukee's side, not to preview all of this.

[SPEAKER_03]: Milwaukee, their tier one hitter is Jackson, Chorio.

[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.

[SPEAKER_03]: Tier two is probably yellowish and I think yellow stands alone in that and then tier three is where terrain and Vaughan right now settled into.

[SPEAKER_03]: So that's my theory.

[SPEAKER_03]: Does that make any sense at all?

[SPEAKER_04]: So I'm dealing with two different things.

[SPEAKER_04]: you have a very good voice and the way you say things, it's an area once you have pretty much everything.

[SPEAKER_04]: But then I take, if I take your radio voice out, and even the way you say the words out, all I think of is, this guy's 80, he doesn't know what he's done.

[SPEAKER_04]: He's complicated way of these guys are all raking throughout the letter.

[SPEAKER_04]: That's what I thought.

[SPEAKER_04]: Because what about some of the line-ups that like is Ernie Clement, not a tier three hitter, the way he's hitting right now, like I think what it takes [SPEAKER_04]: for a lineup to hit their way through the world series, if that's gonna be the only way they get to the world series, everybody has to hit.

[SPEAKER_04]: Like the Dodgers aren't hitting their way to the world series, they're pitching their way to the world series, but they get timely hitting.

[SPEAKER_04]: Like what we said at the beginning of the CS was that the BlueJays offense, everybody has to play their part because they don't have the pitching to go up against Seattle.

[SPEAKER_04]: Milwaukee is gonna have to out hit the Dodgers [SPEAKER_04]: while also outpitching the Dodgers, which is basically impossible at this point.

[SPEAKER_04]: So for your tears, I get what you mean because the big guys in the lineup have to hit, but so I would say that you had a long paragraphs, just to get to say the whole lineup has to hit for them to win.

[SPEAKER_03]: So yes, I'm also glad that I went long because this is a podcast that we have to fill about 40 years minutes here.

[SPEAKER_03]: I feel like we're not just filling it.

[SPEAKER_03]: We're filling the people with good info.

[SPEAKER_03]: I think so.

[SPEAKER_03]: I think so.

[SPEAKER_03]: So let me put it in a different way and see if this compute's a little bit better.

[SPEAKER_03]: And I can't turn the voice off.

[SPEAKER_03]: I'm sorry.

[SPEAKER_03]: I think you need four guys going.

[SPEAKER_03]: And I wanted to add a layer to that, saying, you need to have your best guys going in that four, or maybe your best guy going in that four.

[SPEAKER_03]: And again, the Dodgers are the outlier.

[SPEAKER_03]: For me, like, if Toronto is to get to the world series and win the world series, they need four guys hitting and one of them needs to be Vlad Jr.

[SPEAKER_03]: Seattle, they need four guys hitting and one of them needs to be Cal Raleigh.

[SPEAKER_03]: Is that fair?

[SPEAKER_04]: That is fair.

[SPEAKER_04]: I almost think about it like this.

[SPEAKER_04]: I need guys hitting in every quadrant of the lineup.

[SPEAKER_04]: God, I need, I need the first three guys, somebody's got to be getting on base.

[SPEAKER_04]: What's been happening for the Dodgers show has done absolutely nothing, but Mookie has been great.

[SPEAKER_04]: is pushing that inning forward.

[SPEAKER_04]: And then seven, eight, nine, who's out there?

[SPEAKER_04]: So the Dodgers show a hasn't been doing anything, but Keke is doing everything from the bottom.

[SPEAKER_04]: Max Muncie in the middle, and of course, I think just the four, five, six of the Dodgers, like sometimes it's Will Smith, sometimes it's Tommy Edmund, like all of them have been pretty good, but then Mookie is pushing the first inning, even after Show Hay strikes out of three straight sliders, and that's how they're still able to hit.

[SPEAKER_04]: right in the Brewers lineup, what's happening?

[SPEAKER_04]: Chorio hits the walk off, or at walk off, lead off home run, but Yellowchained doing shit.

[SPEAKER_04]: William Contreras has been so, so Bryce Tarang has been so, so, so you get to like the middle part of the lineup and then their back end isn't doing much.

[SPEAKER_04]: So they're not getting innings started with the blue jays.

[SPEAKER_04]: You need vlady to hit, but you need guys like Ernie Clement to hit as well.

[SPEAKER_04]: And that's when the blue jays get really good as when every inning you feel like somebody is gonna impact the lineup.

[SPEAKER_03]: do I get permission to make fun of you for a moment?

[SPEAKER_03]: No.

[SPEAKER_03]: Please.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.

[SPEAKER_03]: So, um, oh, by the way, craziness in the air is on a fall league.

[SPEAKER_03]: They were throwing the ball around.

[SPEAKER_03]: Guy steals second.

[SPEAKER_03]: Now he's into score on two throwing airs.

[SPEAKER_03]: This is good fall league baseball.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_03]: Permission to make fun of you is granted.

[SPEAKER_03]: You said quadrant, you need a piece from each quadrant and I was like, I wonder how he's going to separate a nine person line up into four and you opted for thirds so it's not necessarily a lot of I'm not a work with a balldoer.

[SPEAKER_04]: See like your your your speech did have a ball doll.

[SPEAKER_03]: I love the term empty suit, where it's just somebody that looks decent in a suit and like, you know, presents well, but then there's just nothing going on.

[SPEAKER_03]: I'm in an empty suit versus you who shows up in like, in a dearest track suit that needs to be washed, but you just spew facts.

[SPEAKER_04]: So, in fact, also back to the quadrant thing, what is, what would be the word there?

[SPEAKER_04]: And I'm about to say something stupid and I got [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I mean, I tried with all the trident.

[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, you can call it a trident in the line of what would have been normally you need each part of yeah, like a trio like not thirds of the lineup.

[SPEAKER_03]: Quadrant sick because quadrant sounds like really intimidating.

[SPEAKER_04]: He does.

[SPEAKER_03]: I understand what you're saying though, like you need and I think what you're doing here like one two three typically your tier one hit or sits in one through three and then your tier two sits in the four through six spot and then your tier three sits in the seven to go back to your point you need four hitters throughout those tridents.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, they're getting.

[SPEAKER_03]: So you and with AJ's have right now, you need a quad of hitters within the tried in.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, killing.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yes, exactly.

[SPEAKER_03]: Look at us combining for something that doesn't make any sense.

[SPEAKER_04]: One more thing on the mariner side, if you're gonna lose, lose like this, because you don't have to burn spire, you don't have to burn brash or moonyose.

[SPEAKER_04]: It was right there, Peter Quadrons could have been, [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, but you're putting seven, eight, nine in it.

[SPEAKER_04]: I don't agree with this comment because that's still the seven, eight, nine quadrant is three that's not separated perfectly.

[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not super, I hate to break news to you.

[SPEAKER_03]: You unfortunately cannot separate nine into tears of four.

[SPEAKER_04]: All right.

[SPEAKER_04]: Quadrant, trident.

[SPEAKER_04]: I'm spewing knowledge.

[SPEAKER_04]: It works.

[SPEAKER_04]: I can't see how to say it.

[SPEAKER_04]: I think it's very big that they didn't burn any other bullpen arms, but you could say the same thing about the Blue Jays, right?

[SPEAKER_04]: If they were to win, you want to win like this because we've seen throughout the playoffs, there's so many off-days.

[SPEAKER_04]: So it's like you can burn through a bullpen and then you get it off to it and then you're fine the next day, right?

[SPEAKER_04]: The Brewers bullpen games, right?

[SPEAKER_04]: They went to your rebate twice in a row because they know [SPEAKER_04]: We get an off day in between so we can get him a little bit of rest in this format right now.

[SPEAKER_04]: There's no off days.

[SPEAKER_04]: So [SPEAKER_04]: it's kind of a plus for both teams that it is a blowout right now because now both really get to rest their bullpins and going into tomorrow.

[SPEAKER_04]: I said we start recapping or previewing game four unless you got anything else.

[SPEAKER_03]: No, I'm in.

[SPEAKER_03]: So Seattle maintains Pazardo, Spire, Brash, Munoz, Toronto, maintains.

[SPEAKER_03]: They go to Fisher, Rodriguez, Fluhearty so they don't use Varlin, they don't use Dominguez, they don't use Hoffman who else don't they use.

[SPEAKER_04]: Well, say the names again, it was Hoffman, Seranthani Dominguez, Lil Evarland.

[SPEAKER_04]: Louis Varland.

[SPEAKER_04]: That's like kind of their fort, but the thing is they're all [SPEAKER_04]: Like, I don't, like, the Mariners have a clear four, Bizarro, Spire, Brash, Munoz.

[SPEAKER_04]: Don't you kind of feel like everyone in the BlueJays bullpen could get a shout out inning and everyone in the BlueJays bullpen could get hit.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I don't feel like the one that's out like, this is the four.

[SPEAKER_02]: The one that has changed most.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, they could say these are our four best relievers.

[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I hear you.

[SPEAKER_03]: The one that freaks me out the most is Brendan Little.

[SPEAKER_03]: Little, I just, it's, it's a absolute journey.

[SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, yeah, I understand what you're saying, but they kept their leverage guys down, especially off of an off day, like having 48 hours for relief arms is like really big when you get to this job.

[SPEAKER_04]: Harry Ford appearance.

[SPEAKER_03]: Harry Ford appearance, that's big.

[SPEAKER_03]: Gino punch out is tough.

[SPEAKER_03]: So we got one million in the bottom of the ninth.

[SPEAKER_03]: He's got to get going.

[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, he's a frustrating watch right now.

[SPEAKER_04]: You trade Tyler Lockler, you know, you trade multiple pieces in order to get him, like he's your deadline acquisition.

[SPEAKER_04]: Like Josh Nailer was supposed to be a complimentary piece.

[SPEAKER_04]: two genoswaras.

[SPEAKER_04]: And now we're looking at potentially the second out of the inning, come on, buddy, catch that ball out of a bay bay.

[SPEAKER_04]: Vlad is defense has been a little bit better this year.

[SPEAKER_04]: He's improving with the first basement.

[SPEAKER_04]: He's too good of an athlete to be as bad as the defenders he's been through the first few years.

[SPEAKER_04]: But this defense is getting better.

[SPEAKER_04]: Like I remember watching Vlad the early on in his quirk.

[SPEAKER_04]: He, I was like, dude, have you ever played the position [SPEAKER_04]: Now he's not great yet, but I think he's going to keep getting better and better and I bet it in like a season or two, he'll be weird.

[SPEAKER_03]: We're spoiled with where first base is at right now because we've got Vlatti and Freddie and that one, two separating in the 2026 top 10 is going to be crazy.

[SPEAKER_03]: Alonzo just had an amazing year.

[SPEAKER_03]: What, Bavaria?

[SPEAKER_03]: Game over, WooJays win 13 before.

[SPEAKER_04]: There we go.

[SPEAKER_04]: You did not jinx it, that's like my nightmare.

[SPEAKER_03]: What like we get on here and all of a sudden let's just Seattle wins.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I don't know why.

[SPEAKER_03]: And the liar That's a long would have been pretty fun.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that would have been good TV I don't know why I feel like pressing the record button instantly makes us jinx the game for whatever reason not the case I don't think we have any bearing on what happened in Seattle, Washington tonight I don't think so either when we talk about the best first basement in baseball going in the next year I mean it's Vlad A Freddy Alonzo [SPEAKER_03]: Olsen hurts like I do first bases in a really good spot right now and Vlatti is proving that if he is the best first base been in baseball on some rankings like I can't dispute that You know you could dispute with Freddy at all times just because of track record and because of what he's still doing, but you know at this point it's probably just flattie and we move on Could be metals and two hits such a good level.

[SPEAKER_04]: No, I think it would probably be vlatti.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and could also be curts could also be curts.

[SPEAKER_04]: I know, but remember we did the same thing.

[SPEAKER_04]: Number one, Vladi had that his unbelievable real first year.

[SPEAKER_04]: And then we ranked him two behind Freddy Freeman and Blue J's fans said that they were going to boycott the show for the rest of the time.

[SPEAKER_03]: And then they came back when Freddy hit like 60 doubles.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, and then Freddy, you know, had a better year because.

[SPEAKER_04]: Coaches get more film, pitchers get to watch, film.

[SPEAKER_04]: And you have better scouting reports.

[SPEAKER_04]: And sometimes, guys, just go through a sophomore slump.

[SPEAKER_04]: We've seen that plenty of times, but this is not about Nick Kurtz.

[SPEAKER_04]: Let's talk BlueJays, Mariners game for.

[SPEAKER_04]: But could we do it with QuickWish?

[SPEAKER_03]: We can't do it with QuickWish.

[SPEAKER_03]: Let me get the Wish ready to go on my laptop.

[SPEAKER_03]: Wait, did you say you wanted Wish?

[SPEAKER_02]: You want to Wish one more time?

[SPEAKER_04]: Game four next on first take you love that thank losing my love the worst because it's like the one thing we do during the broadcast that is like pretty cool other than just our fucking faces um Castillo versus Scherzer [SPEAKER_04]: Castillo, you know, he doesn't have that different of an arsenal from George Kirby.

[SPEAKER_04]: Right, it's that running too seemer.

[SPEAKER_04]: It's the breaking ball.

[SPEAKER_04]: They're obviously not the same pitchers.

[SPEAKER_04]: But if Luis Castillo was in careful, he could get a heavy helping of this same offensive showing.

[SPEAKER_04]: Like I said, when the Blue Jays get hot, you just take him.

[SPEAKER_04]: And that's kind of how I'm feeling here, but then on the other side.

[SPEAKER_04]: Shurs has just been inconsistent, especially to end the year, it was rough for him.

[SPEAKER_04]: But it's hard for me to say, Max Shurs is going to have a tough outing, even though I love the marries offense, because it's Max Shurs are like, do you think he can find it in his being?

[SPEAKER_04]: To be okay, because if you can hang with Castillo and this often shows up, that's how the BlueJays take this and tie up the series.

[SPEAKER_04]: But on the surface, how can you not give the edge to Seattle here?

[SPEAKER_04]: Castillo's clearly the better picture.

[SPEAKER_04]: They didn't have to burn any of their bullpen arms, so they can go Castillo for five than Bazardo's Spire Brashmuno's.

[SPEAKER_04]: That's just a really, really hard quintuplet, [SPEAKER_03]: Okay, that's correct.

[SPEAKER_03]: He hasn't been...

[SPEAKER_03]: Moving on, he hasn't been good in the postseason since 2021 with the Dodgers and that 2021 Dodger run, that's the one that he was, I think, dead arming at the end and Bueller had to fill in on short rest, but he was not good with the Mets in his postseason appearances and in 23 with Texas, he was not good in his postseason appearances.

[SPEAKER_03]: Max Scherzer, the way he finished the year, was not awesome.

[SPEAKER_03]: In the month of September, it was four starts in an ERA over 10, 15 innings, 24 hits against him in the month of September.

[SPEAKER_03]: Four and a third of four run ball in New York.

[SPEAKER_03]: Then he hosts Baltimore, five innings, a two run ball.

[SPEAKER_03]: It was good.

[SPEAKER_03]: But then in Kansas City, he got two outs, allowed seven runs in the first inning on September 19.

[SPEAKER_03]: And then in five innings in his final start of the year against Boston, five innings of four run ball, he allowed 10 hits.

[SPEAKER_03]: It's not like [SPEAKER_03]: I worry about a future first ballot Hall of Famer.

[SPEAKER_03]: And when I worry about a future first ballot Hall of Famer, I have these alarms going off in my head saying, Jack, shut up, you idiot.

[SPEAKER_03]: He's a future first ballot Hall of Famers.

[SPEAKER_04]: I'm not at all.

[SPEAKER_04]: That's what I'm dealing with, too.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_03]: So I'm not.

[SPEAKER_03]: Unfortunately, I'm not in a position to make predictions on how Max Scherzer throws in game for the ALCS because again, every time I start to look at trends and start to look at how he threw in the month of September and how he started the postseason since 2021, I'm like, shut up dude, just appreciate Scherzer it's like the more data we get the worse the predictions get.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_04]: Because the complete ops that happens every single time going into this ballgame, you have George Kirby coming off a near perfect performance against the Tigers.

[SPEAKER_04]: And he got to shield.

[SPEAKER_04]: Of course they're not the same pitcher.

[SPEAKER_04]: Today he gave up eight earned eight on eight hits.

[SPEAKER_04]: I think it's like one of the worst starts of his career at home in T-Mobile with all the momentum in front of those fans.

[SPEAKER_04]: Also another thing road teams are 10 and 11 in the playoffs home field advantage every team likes to talk about how great their whole field advantage is not of Another thing this the right October's done Seattle gets their first one in the LCS you get boat raced Toronto you thought the Rodgers Center was loud not loud enough to stop the mariners Dodgers or is there one loss as postseason [SPEAKER_03]: one loss was at home.

[SPEAKER_04]: They got exactly it's nothing matters.

[SPEAKER_04]: Like all we talked the whole time none of it matters.

[SPEAKER_03]: But I will get into my projection bag as it pertains to Louise Castillo.

[SPEAKER_03]: Have you seen what this guy's done over the course of his career in the postseason?

[SPEAKER_03]: Limited sample.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yes, small sample, right?

[SPEAKER_04]: It's pretty good.

[SPEAKER_03]: It's four starts.

[SPEAKER_03]: this guy in six innings, this postseason across two appearances, six innings of one hit shot out fall.

[SPEAKER_03]: He has walked four, but one hit no runs in 25 and two thirds innings in the playoffs in his career.

[SPEAKER_03]: He's got a one four ERA, 25 and two thirds four runs, opponents are hitting [SPEAKER_04]: I know, but Shane Bieber came into this start with an area over five in the posties, and you even mentioned that first series with Yankees Red Sox, Max Freed, tough posties, and the array.

[SPEAKER_04]: What does he do?

[SPEAKER_04]: Shut down the Red Sox.

[SPEAKER_04]: Now, just next start, you got Sheld.

[SPEAKER_04]: Kind of makes me think Luis Castillo is due to get Sheld.

[SPEAKER_04]: I, these numbers.

[SPEAKER_04]: None of them point to anything.

[SPEAKER_03]: Projectible.

[SPEAKER_03]: So what you got?

[SPEAKER_03]: Give me a final score prediction and why.

[SPEAKER_03]: Try and bumble something up to explain why.

[SPEAKER_04]: I think the Blue J's offense found it.

[SPEAKER_04]: I just do when I'm going off feelings because stats don't matter in the post season.

[SPEAKER_04]: I think the Blue J's offense found something.

[SPEAKER_04]: Every single starter in their lineup got a hit today.

[SPEAKER_04]: Seattle's gonna hit some home runs.

[SPEAKER_04]: I like runs in the second game.

[SPEAKER_04]: I think this is gonna be another high scoring game.

[SPEAKER_04]: I'm gonna go BlueJays win.

[SPEAKER_04]: I'm gonna say, this one's a little bit closer.

[SPEAKER_04]: If it's a little bit closer, the Mariners are gonna win.

[SPEAKER_04]: Because their bullpen is just way better and I trust them way more, which means the Blue Jays bullpen is gonna find a way to shut it down.

[SPEAKER_04]: That's how I found my prediction.

[SPEAKER_04]: Six, four, Jays win.

[SPEAKER_03]: I think best case scenario, Schurser goes like four.

[SPEAKER_04]: And they need not even that many.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and then you've got break glass in case of emergency basset hanging out as well.

[SPEAKER_03]: I think you could be okay.

[SPEAKER_03]: Maybe I am with you.

[SPEAKER_03]: I think distinct pitching advantage Seattle.

[SPEAKER_03]: I do think this is a tight one.

[SPEAKER_03]: Give me four two mariners.

[SPEAKER_03]: Interesting.

[SPEAKER_03]: You think it's low scoring.

[SPEAKER_03]: Explain why.

[SPEAKER_03]: I think it's low scoring because all of his sudden you're going to get into like, okay, say sure is or gets punched in the mouth in the second and there are two across in the second and they lift him and then Bassett goes to then you're stacking violent.

[SPEAKER_03]: It's like, hey, Louis, Barland, go get five outs.

[SPEAKER_03]: Hey, Ser Anthony, go get five outs.

[SPEAKER_03]: I feel like bullpens and managers are going to be pressing immediately and like pressing and going to the panelot screams run suppression to make like I don't.

[SPEAKER_04]: But do you want to say it's bullpen to hold it like boy, do you have blue jays went for to know I have Mariners went for you Mariners went for to see you think with all those bullpen arms coming in like I think sure's are allows to runs in two and a third innings and then I think that Seattle can scratch two more across.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, Castiogo is four and a third of two run ball, and then you go Bizarro, Spire, Brash, Munoz, and I feel like those guys just shut it down.

[SPEAKER_04]: And I also like that both of us picked opposite teams to win just so we don't just look like clowns.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yes, that's big.

[SPEAKER_03]: So one of us is going to be right tomorrow, and I'm so fired up to see which one could we could be low-scored blu-jays with or high-scored barriers away that we're just like oh, that's fun.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you mean like 13 to 10 M's wins, so then we're both just incredibly wrong.

[SPEAKER_03]: love it um we gotta talk about the NLCS game three don't we you know what happens before that oh love it that button man [SPEAKER_04]: Bros Dodgers, because a game like this makes me think that the Bros have a shot, because it doesn't felt like the Bros had a shot.

[SPEAKER_04]: I bet the Dodgers in game two, even though on this show, I was like, I think the Dodgers and Bros split him a walkie.

[SPEAKER_04]: And I had your voice kind of back my ear being like, [SPEAKER_04]: Why are we just assuming that the birds are gonna win when clearly, Yamamoto is the better start of them for Alta?

[SPEAKER_04]: I was also looking back and I was saying, yeah, that game was tight, that two-to-one game.

[SPEAKER_04]: What if the weirdest double play in MLB history doesn't happen?

[SPEAKER_04]: What's the score then?

[SPEAKER_04]: Blake's now faced the minimum.

[SPEAKER_04]: Am I just expecting the Brewers offense to break out against Yamamoto?

[SPEAKER_04]: For what reason?

[SPEAKER_04]: That's not enough.

[SPEAKER_04]: Clearly stats don't matter in the postseason.

[SPEAKER_04]: So throw that out the window, they would six and oh in the in the regular season against them.

[SPEAKER_04]: Obviously, that doesn't matter.

[SPEAKER_04]: What I do think matters when the numbers are this good.

[SPEAKER_04]: Check.

[SPEAKER_04]: Tyler glass, I was face the brewers.

[SPEAKER_04]: The current lineup has recorded 79 plate appearances against glass now.

[SPEAKER_04]: What do you think they're opponent batting averages?

[SPEAKER_03]: Give me two 10 lower.

[SPEAKER_03]: Give me $194, lower.

[SPEAKER_03]: Give me $187, lower.

[SPEAKER_03]: Wait, what is it?

[SPEAKER_03]: Keep going way lower.

[UNKNOWN]: $160, $168, $141.

[SPEAKER_04]: 79 play to parents.

[SPEAKER_04]: How many hits is that?

[SPEAKER_04]: 32.9% strikeout rate.

[SPEAKER_04]: They have 10 hits in 71 ABs.

[SPEAKER_04]: Hushing yellowish is one for 14 with seven strikeouts.

[SPEAKER_04]: William Contreras is over nine with three strikeouts.

[SPEAKER_04]: And the quality of contact isn't good either.

[SPEAKER_04]: Like it's not like they're hitting the ball hard and it's getting caught.

[SPEAKER_04]: Jackson Torio is one for seven.

[SPEAKER_04]: with three strikeouts, price triangle is the only guy who's had a shot three for eight Andrew Vaughn's over five, but I don't know when Andrew Vaughn, because this bird's Andrew Vaughn, King Vaughn, is definitely different.

[SPEAKER_04]: South freely, because over five with three case, Joey Ortiz is over four with two case.

[SPEAKER_04]: That's not good.

[SPEAKER_04]: But I did say I just have a feeling if they start cantana, they're going to figure out a way to win that one.

[SPEAKER_04]: Because they just put a tautie in a blender and I feel like there's just this weird thing with the dog I don't even have a gasser just piecing Otautie last time.

[SPEAKER_04]: Did you see how easy that was?

[SPEAKER_04]: Crazy it makes me so mad that he's struggling while the daughters of this good.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, this is the reverse tungsten armodoile Yeah, like this is this is all of the angels stuff Getting the baseball gods making first.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yes [SPEAKER_04]: It's not fair, no matter, because they have all the tridents.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, everybody, it's tridents.

[SPEAKER_02]: Speaking of tridents, we're off the rails, man.

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[SPEAKER_04]: All right, back to yours, back to yours, Dodgers.

[SPEAKER_04]: I think the Dodgers are going to sweep them.

[SPEAKER_04]: No, yes, no, no way, but maybe.

[SPEAKER_04]: how do they be class now?

[SPEAKER_04]: The thing is glass, I'm just not going to be able to give them that length.

[SPEAKER_04]: I think that's snail and Yamamoto were and then what happens?

[SPEAKER_04]: Because Vesia did end the season poorly, but I still trust him.

[SPEAKER_04]: I trust Rocky.

[SPEAKER_04]: I don't trust Rocky.

[SPEAKER_04]: I trust Rocky.

[SPEAKER_04]: If everyone wants you on YouTube, you can see it.

[SPEAKER_04]: Maybe you heard it on audio.

[SPEAKER_03]: Angel right up.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, totally you're getting that you're getting the point across.

[SPEAKER_03]: I love what you're doing right now.

[SPEAKER_04]: Try and then the rest of them.

[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know.

[SPEAKER_04]: So can the brewer's mount to come back there?

[SPEAKER_04]: But then what's going to stop the Dodgers from putting up a couple of runs?

[SPEAKER_04]: And I also think the Dodgers can beat up the brewer's bullpen.

[SPEAKER_04]: I know the brewer's bullpen is great.

[SPEAKER_04]: They can't.

[SPEAKER_04]: They're the Dodgers.

[SPEAKER_04]: They can hit anyone.

[SPEAKER_04]: So it's like, oh, the brewers, if Contana just gives them, you know, maybe it's an opener to Contana.

[SPEAKER_04]: If he gives them four good innings and they get a lead, it's over.

[SPEAKER_04]: No, it ain't, but I just feel the Dodgers that was punct to game in the series.

[SPEAKER_04]: And I just feel like it's the one with Contana.

[SPEAKER_04]: It's just a feeling.

[SPEAKER_04]: And it's also based off the fact that the Dodgers have not had lefties.

[SPEAKER_04]: This one's tough for me.

[SPEAKER_03]: King Cash and our YouTube comments.

[SPEAKER_03]: If glass now gets through seven, it's Vesia than Rocky game over.

[SPEAKER_03]: So the question now becomes, can glass now give them seven?

[SPEAKER_03]: You're saying, of course, he can.

[SPEAKER_03]: He can.

[SPEAKER_03]: So the question is, will glass now give them seven?

[SPEAKER_03]: Not can glass now give them seven?

[SPEAKER_04]: So that comment of glass now gets through seven is Vesia [SPEAKER_04]: And you give up a few runs.

[SPEAKER_04]: Are the Dodgers not going to score a few more?

[SPEAKER_04]: Let's say, let's say they put up two against Glaston and five innings, which I think is asking a lot.

[SPEAKER_04]: Dodgers can put up two in the same amount of time, and then what?

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, they have a worse bullpen, better offense, so.

[SPEAKER_03]: Kind of balances each other out and I need you to pull the sweet card because I pulled the sweet card on Seattle and it fired it backfired so quickly on me.

[SPEAKER_03]: Good point.

[SPEAKER_03]: We need more games.

[SPEAKER_04]: Dodger sweep easy.

[SPEAKER_04]: Don't have a shot.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yes.

[SPEAKER_04]: Right.

[SPEAKER_04]: No way you put up a run.

[SPEAKER_04]: You're not putting up a run for the rest of the series.

[SPEAKER_04]: Please, Bruce, give us a series.

[SPEAKER_03]: That's so good.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, give us a series, baby.

[SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, I love that you just pulled the sweet card on the Dodgers, because that means the brewers win this one eight to four.

[SPEAKER_03]: And we go to game four in LA in a two one series.

[SPEAKER_04]: Well, what do you think though?

[SPEAKER_04]: Do you think the others win?

[SPEAKER_04]: You know, it's five.

[SPEAKER_03]: I think right now, shoves across six.

[SPEAKER_03]: The inning that scares me most is the try and inning.

[SPEAKER_03]: Because you know that they're going to a try and inning at some point.

[SPEAKER_04]: And you know it's going to be a walk [SPEAKER_03]: and a wild pitch and then maybe a double, it's, I mean, it's going to be brutal to watch and the try and in and terrifies me for the Dodgers.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_03]: But if, if glass now does give them six and two thirds and Vesia gives them four outs and Rokey gives you three, hell, they could [SPEAKER_03]: Sasaki's a starting pitcher.

[SPEAKER_03]: People forget.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, and the Dodgers did not throw him in game too, obviously, because Yamamoto went nine.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, he's rested and so were we both picking Dodgers?

[SPEAKER_04]: We're both picking Dodgers.

[SPEAKER_04]: What's your final score?

[SPEAKER_03]: Six.

[SPEAKER_03]: Well, two.

[SPEAKER_03]: Six.

[SPEAKER_02]: Six.

[SPEAKER_03]: Two Dodgers.

[SPEAKER_03]: another bullpen day from a walking like that's not lost on me just another just another TBD.

[SPEAKER_04]: That's where these two teams are separating because you can only have a bullpen game for so long.

[SPEAKER_04]: These guys arms just get tired and they're pitching again and again and then on top of it, not only their arms tired, the offences are seeing them again and again and again and if you give the Dodgers so many opportunities against the same arms.

[SPEAKER_04]: They're amazing, though, the Avengers, they're gonna take advantage.

[SPEAKER_04]: So if Contana isn't great in his bulk innings, we suck when priests are be great in his bulk innings, and it's still didn't matter.

[SPEAKER_04]: I'm gonna go, I'm gonna go lower scoring game here, give me four, [SPEAKER_04]: three Dodgers.

[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, but it's four to one going into the knife.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, Rokey's second inning will work.

[SPEAKER_04]: It's like, oh, oh, no, not just the one.

[SPEAKER_04]: No.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_04]: So okay, no, no, I thought your life Dodgers would four three.

[SPEAKER_03]: That's a good shot.

[SPEAKER_03]: All right.

[SPEAKER_03]: I think that's our program tonight.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Oh crap, you're at the ballpark right now is all down below.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, they can booth at the ballparkers on a fall, like we get the so arrows and the solar sucks going at it.

[SPEAKER_04]: That is a lot of trick everybody just baseball's doing something different.

[SPEAKER_04]: It's beautiful.

[SPEAKER_04]: Look at that.

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