[SPEAKER_01]: Really, really gay podcast that we called that's a gay podcast.

[SPEAKER_01]: That's a gay out of name for a gay out of podcast.

[SPEAKER_01]: Sam Altizer, otherwise known as I'm Baby Lifts, is on that's a gay ass podcast here to spill about your journey, but also your sluttery.

[SPEAKER_01]: Sam are the rumors true that you're currently calling from your parents home.

[SPEAKER_00]: I am this is my old like high school bedroom.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's like the frog room if you've ever heard that, like the front room over a garage.

[SPEAKER_01]: I've actually never heard that, is that a version of anything?

[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, it's because we get termed like we used, but yeah, this is the bedroom I grew up at.

[SPEAKER_01]: And why do we think, wait, did you grow up above the garage?

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I did.

[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so then here's already my first question because I was wondering as this gay ass adult currently in a chapter with your parents, many people can relate to this, but as a adult gay man, does do you have a secret side entrance to the frog room?

[SPEAKER_01]: Are you bringing men's as over?

[SPEAKER_00]: I fucking wish, but no, this has to go through like the front door, which is a pain in the ass, but I would have I could.

[SPEAKER_01]: Well, in this series for the podcast, we talk about our sexuality without shame, to celebrate our queerness and the words slut used to be weaponized against us, but I want to let use it as something we take pride in.

[SPEAKER_01]: Sam does the word slut ring true for you, or you more in a none part of your life.

[SPEAKER_00]: Ooh, I feel like I'm in the more like sludder time of my life.

[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like I'm a majority of my gay experience has been in relationships and I'm like finally single and like one a stay single.

[SPEAKER_00]: So like I'm finally in the place where I'm like, you know what?

[SPEAKER_00]: I kind of want to be a little how for a little bit.

[SPEAKER_01]: Well, we love how faiths and I do think it actually guides us towards the next chapter of our lives, whether that looks like a relationship or more hone-ness.

[SPEAKER_01]: But I do think we learn more about ourselves, the more green experiences we have.

[SPEAKER_01]: And when the paywall does go up at the second half of this interview, I will get into the most specific slutty questions before we get into it.

[SPEAKER_01]: I want to hear a bit about your journey because your content online is how I found you.

[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I'm baby lives.

[SPEAKER_01]: You are giving us like, [SPEAKER_01]: delicious dancing, you're giving us fitness, you are giving us big boy energy.

[SPEAKER_01]: A lot of times people look at someone with your stature and they think you're five foot two.

[SPEAKER_01]: Can you dispel the rumors?

[SPEAKER_01]: How tall are you saying?

[SPEAKER_00]: I'm 510.

[SPEAKER_00]: I know I get that question a lot.

[SPEAKER_00]: The people are like how tall are you like how much do you weigh?

[SPEAKER_00]: It's actually funny.

[SPEAKER_00]: I answered it recently.

[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, oh, I'm 510 and someone was like, yes, short king.

[SPEAKER_00]: And I was like, no, I've told short now.

[SPEAKER_01]: They were trolling you.

[SPEAKER_01]: The internet is built for trolls.

[SPEAKER_01]: No, it's I think the funny thing about the internet and that's partly why asked is, [SPEAKER_01]: Oftentimes you see somebody that you're like lusting after on the internet and then you see them in person And there's just like the the difference of height is shocking and it not in a bad way But a lot of times these hot guys are fully 5 feet too.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, what's our really short Okay, tell you when we moved to LA my husband we were at high tops and we saw this cute guy And I was like oh my god, that's blank someone we both followed online and Matt went there's no way that's him We discovered it was him, but Matt thought he was a full foot taller But that's just sometimes dumps the ropes [SPEAKER_00]: Honestly, we love a shorking though.

[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I love a shorking.

[SPEAKER_01]: Are you joking?

[SPEAKER_01]: I don't discriminate.

[SPEAKER_01]: I just love to see, you know, it's like when you're working with someone on Zoom and then you meet them for the first time in person and you're like, oh my God, I had no idea you had like that fat of an ass or whatever it is.

[SPEAKER_00]: No, literally, when I was like working remote for like a couple of years, we would do these like off sites and like there were multiple people where I was like holy shit.

[SPEAKER_00]: Like I met someone and he was actually seven, one in person.

[SPEAKER_00]: But I would have no idea like from Zoom, which is crazy.

[SPEAKER_01]: Does, did that, how did that height make you feel afraid?

[SPEAKER_01]: Horny, otherwise.

[SPEAKER_00]: Honestly intrigued for sure, but honestly, but a little afraid too, because it was like, hey, how's it going?

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no.

[SPEAKER_01]: 7 one sounds like a lot of doctor visits and I don't know for what, but I'm going to guess back pain at the very least.

[SPEAKER_01]: Now you Sam are living in a current chapter of your life that finds you post breakup, post getting fired from your job and embarking on this new journey of being a personal trainer.

[SPEAKER_01]: But I love that you have talked about in one of your videos that you said that you have found such joy and fitness and you're wanting to help other people [SPEAKER_01]: A lot of us gaze group with like fitness trauma, and I am speaking for myself, have you always been a sports girl of fitness king?

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, honestly, like I grew up just playing a ton of sports.

[SPEAKER_00]: Like I think I tried every sport under the sun when I was really young, landed on soccer, kind of being my favorite one.

[SPEAKER_00]: And then I grew up with like a really good group of guy friends, like straight guy friends and I'm so really close with today.

[SPEAKER_00]: Wow.

[SPEAKER_00]: We just got so into the gym together.

[SPEAKER_00]: And from there, just like I found it just be like the best place to like relieve stress.

[SPEAKER_00]: Like think about things, like listen fine new music.

[SPEAKER_00]: Like I mean, I absolutely love it.

[SPEAKER_01]: Well, good for you, especially to have a group of straight men that keeps you feeling like supported because straight men are canonically terrible, can you paint the picture for when you came out to these straight guys, what was their reaction and how did you all navigate it?

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so I befriended a majority of them in middle school and luckily like a lot of them stayed local So we've all been friends for really long time when I came out.

[SPEAKER_00]: It was right after high school It was right after I graduated And it was funny because I had dated a girl in high school for two years And still close with her today.

[SPEAKER_00]: I was in her wedding last year Shut up [SPEAKER_00]: but I came out to them and they were honestly pissed that I didn't come out sooner and they were like they were like you could have said something a long time ago like we don't fucking care but they were really really sweet about it.

[SPEAKER_01]: That is so lovely.

[SPEAKER_00]: I got really happy.

[SPEAKER_00]: I got really lucky.

[SPEAKER_01]: You did, but also I think I hope that we're embarking on a time when that becomes less of an outlier, you know, that, oh my god, that's right guys, we're nice to you.

[SPEAKER_01]: They didn't hate crime you.

[SPEAKER_01]: Wow, I got lucky.

[SPEAKER_01]: Like I can't wait for that to not be the shock of surgery, um, and you are still confirm the only gay guy in the group.

[SPEAKER_01]: No one else has come out.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and that like friend group, um, yeah, I'm like the only gay one.

[SPEAKER_00]: There's like a girl in our group who's like bisexual, so like sure.

[SPEAKER_00]: Another queer person, but yeah, I'm like the token gay friend.

[SPEAKER_01]: Wow, and you before you came out, you never like all watched porn and you looked at their deeds, well, okay.

[SPEAKER_00]: So I was gonna say literally in this bedroom, like there was so many times where I would have like sleepovers with all of my guy friends.

[SPEAKER_00]: And we're like, all of us are in our underwear.

[SPEAKER_00]: We're like watching strange shit on my computer.

[SPEAKER_00]: We're like doing, we're like making ball tricks or like doing weird things with our ticks.

[SPEAKER_00]: Same or, what's a ball trick?

[SPEAKER_00]: So like have you ever heard of like alien brain, you know what I'm talking about?

[SPEAKER_00]: It's where you like I'm over and push like your dick in between your legs and you look at it from the back.

[SPEAKER_01]: No, I've never heard of that.

[SPEAKER_00]: Well, it looks like an alien brain.

[SPEAKER_00]: We also made like turtle, which is where you grab like your sock and pull it over your shaft.

[SPEAKER_00]: And like or like your head is like slightly poking out.

[SPEAKER_00]: So it looks like a little turtle in its shell.

[SPEAKER_00]: And then we also had another one.

[SPEAKER_00]: It was called balloon, which is where you hold like a part of your sack and then you inflate it with one of your balls and it was like a balloon.

[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, we get it.

[SPEAKER_01]: Your friends are straight.

[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, don't have to explain any more.

[SPEAKER_01]: That is wild.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it was just like, hey, like this is weird.

[SPEAKER_00]: Let's just, I guess experience weird shit together.

[SPEAKER_01]: Were you ever like, let's play alien boner where we all get hard and I suck you off?

[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I think that they were like, okay, he's kind of looking a little harder than all of us here.

[SPEAKER_00]: You know, maybe something's off.

[SPEAKER_01]: And they were wow.

[SPEAKER_01]: Sam, this isn't incredible insight into your upbringing, but it also, it does make a lot of sense that you always felt sort of empowered in the gym, whether it was from your friends or just from like your own experience.

[SPEAKER_01]: And so I'm excited for you to be in this era of like taking control of your own destiny because talking about getting fired on TikTok, like I feel like that's a pretty brave thing to do because people some people carry shame with the whole firing of it all, but you said that actually [SPEAKER_01]: you kind of felt like it was deserved.

[SPEAKER_01]: You were not.

[SPEAKER_01]: Your heart was not in the work.

[SPEAKER_01]: When the when you first got fired, was there the feeling of shame?

[SPEAKER_01]: How did you sort of get yourself to bounce back from?

[SPEAKER_01]: I've been dealt a big blow and now I need to fucking figure my shit out.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, honestly, there was a huge amount of shame for sure because I think there's like the, you know, like, okay, like I fucked up, like, okay, like I wasn't performing well at that never feels good.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_00]: And the first thing I did is actually call my sister.

[SPEAKER_00]: So she lived in Florida for like 14 years and she recently just moved to Richmond to be closer to family.

[SPEAKER_00]: She like came over immediately and she like brought and she was just like super supportive And I was actually talking about like oh, like I want to do like maybe some content creation stuff like I just feel like I need a big change like I was underperforming because I was going through a breakup and then also I was just like not [SPEAKER_00]: passionate about what the fuck I was doing and so yeah, I mean there was like a good two weeks where I was like pretty paralyzed of like what do I do next where do I go like what's the long ago in the happen when was the firing and when was the break up?

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so the breakup was at the end of April, kind of like beginning of May.

[SPEAKER_00]: And then the firing was at the end of July.

[SPEAKER_01]: Jesus, so you have had a year of going through it.

[SPEAKER_01]: But now you, so you're in December, like seemingly like really optimistic about the future.

[SPEAKER_01]: What do you mean, I'm asking for, okay, if 2025 was like sort of like a lot of hard lessons, what do you mean, manifesting whether it's personally or professionally for 2026?

[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, honestly, I feel like I would really love to start my own like own business of like personal like maybe like online fitness coaching or something like that and then also like I don't know like I feel like when you stop looking for love, that's when it finds you and so I think like I'm trying to date me for a while and just like, you know, get to know myself more and just have some fun with it.

[SPEAKER_00]: So that's really the biggest thing that I'm looking for.

[SPEAKER_01]: Let's get into the dating, hooking up of it all because I think that starting over is already very scary, but it does bring a lot of great new energy for the types of experiences you want to have.

[SPEAKER_01]: So how long ago was your most recent slutty experience.

[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, this was like probably like a month ago I've been like kind of under the radar recently because of like the holidays and like needing to like finish my certification for personal training is up.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it was like a month ago.

[SPEAKER_01]: Um, and how did you meet this person?

[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I was on sniffies.

[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, I actually did like, I think Sniffy started off with a bit of shame for maybe because I don't actually understand why it did.

[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe it's because it's just like fully pictures of Dix on a map.

[SPEAKER_00]: Well, it's like the map like it's a, I mean, it's fully insane.

[SPEAKER_01]: But I actually like, I'm looking at it a lot more than I thought I would.

[SPEAKER_01]: And I actually think they're doing good work over there at Sniffy's HQ.

[SPEAKER_00]: I think they they've hacked into something good because I mean it worked for me, but like literally there's an old Like around here a lot of my friends used to live pretty close So we like bike around like our whole neighborhood and used to go to this place called the secret spot and it's like this place tucked into the woods I literally took a hook up there and it was great That was the one a month ago.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's excellent.

[SPEAKER_01]: Is it in outdoors?

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah outdoors [SPEAKER_01]: How random nature you know also we're enjoying it.

[SPEAKER_01]: Was it a full home run or was it more side play side play I and any type of hookup I'm not typically like a home run type of gal.

[SPEAKER_01]: I'm more of a side always with with that type of stuff Well, that's why you're kind of a relationship king through and through you leave penetraged for the release.

[SPEAKER_00]: I do [SPEAKER_01]: I love this way to be.

[SPEAKER_01]: It's the way to be for Sam Alti, what about for the sluttery of it all?

[SPEAKER_01]: Can you paint a picture of your entree?

[SPEAKER_01]: What was your first boy boy kiss like?

[SPEAKER_00]: That's a great question.

[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like my first boy kiss was, um, so I was in high school and I was doing musical theater and it was right before I started dating my girlfriend at the time and there was a senior boy.

[SPEAKER_00]: I was a sophomore and he was also in the theater program and we shared a kiss at like some party or whatever and I was like, [SPEAKER_00]: I was like, I'm not gay.

[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't like that.

[SPEAKER_00]: But obviously I did.

[SPEAKER_01]: So it was like, was it a joke, kiss?

[SPEAKER_01]: How did it come to be?

[SPEAKER_00]: Um, no.

[SPEAKER_00]: It was like, we were just like hanging out one night and we were like, I think I swear to smoking weed like super fucking young and then we were just high and it just happened.

[SPEAKER_01]: And is do you think that senior has now come out of the closet and is now living in my life?

[SPEAKER_01]: I think they're married now.

[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, shout out.

[SPEAKER_01]: Wait, no.

[SPEAKER_01]: I love a little high school musical moment.

[SPEAKER_00]: So I think I was doing so I didn't join my first musical until junior year, but in CS or sophomore year I was crew for hairspray.

[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I know.

[SPEAKER_01]: And I heard a lot of pressure.

[SPEAKER_01]: And we, I'm so jealous.

[SPEAKER_01]: You got to be a part of a hairspray production.

[SPEAKER_01]: Really one of my one of my dreams.

[SPEAKER_01]: I'm a fellow musical theater queen as well, so it's always enjoyable.

[SPEAKER_01]: Is there are you ever listening to cast recordings these days, or are you moved?

[SPEAKER_00]: No, I haven't, I mean like I listen to a lot of the like wicked stuff but not much else outside of that.

[SPEAKER_00]: I have been out of the musical theater scene for so long.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but you're still listening to a wicked series still sort of one-to-one-to-in.

[SPEAKER_01]: Well, as we put the paywall up in a moment, I want to get into what your whole life looks like right now.

[SPEAKER_01]: Are you finding that every hookup you go on has to be outside of your home or have you taken any people up to the frog room?

[SPEAKER_00]: I've taken no one to the frog room.

[SPEAKER_00]: And honestly, I think I never will.

[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think that'll ever happen here.

[SPEAKER_00]: My parents are like hyper religious, like Trump [SPEAKER_00]: We're going to keep it easy.

[SPEAKER_01]: So what do they think of you showing your juicy ass on TikTok?

[SPEAKER_00]: Um, my mom actually had a sit down with me the other night and she was like she was just like Sam have you seen some of the comments that people are leaving on your Instagram And I was like, yes mom, I have and she's like, are you okay with that and I was like, well, I can't really stop them, you know Like it's gonna just happen But yeah, I mean they they're in full support.

[SPEAKER_00]: They like they're very loving and very sweet They obviously have some questionable Political opinions, but you know, they're very loving and they're like, you know what you're doing your thing like, you know, keep doing it [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, listen, we have to as grown gay as adults find the place in our brains to maintain relationships with the people that are unbelievably different from us.

[SPEAKER_01]: And it sounds like you're doing that.

[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it's there's no one answer for like the people who are voting against our interest.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_00]: And that's a lot of hurting your community here.

[SPEAKER_00]: For sure.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but the thing is, is that, you know, I would never sit here and say, oh, wow, your parents or Trump supporters, you know, cut them out.

[SPEAKER_01]: I know some people feel the way about a lot of people in their lives, but like, I really don't think that's the way to move forward for every single person.

[SPEAKER_01]: So I, I very much understand the plight of, you know, trying to maintain the love that your parents have for you and you have for them without the green on everything.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and it's funny too, because like I'm queer and like my sister's also queer like she is a trans husband.

[SPEAKER_00]: And so they've, they've been honestly educated a lot more than I think they would have ever expected.

[SPEAKER_01]: So Holy yeah, you know, they really had they got some gay fucking kids gay kids like holy shit [SPEAKER_01]: Well, it's not, it's definitely not a nurture in that case.

[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, your parents will, well, what would you say was the gays thing that your parents did and their parenting as you were growing up?

[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, man.

[SPEAKER_00]: That's actually a great question.

[SPEAKER_00]: My parents are like so like they don't drink.

[SPEAKER_00]: They don't smoke.

[SPEAKER_00]: They're like so cookie cutter.

[SPEAKER_00]: I honestly like don't know.

[SPEAKER_01]: Did they play in music that was like barbra stristand or something?

[SPEAKER_00]: No.

[SPEAKER_01]: No.

[SPEAKER_01]: So you really just could not help a be a full gay girlina?

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_00]: I thought as I think it was more about like the they were like so strict that I was like, I have to get out of this that made me gayer.

[SPEAKER_01]: I have to smoke weed and kiss the guy playing Lincoln in the high school production of hairspray.

[SPEAKER_01]: And you know who among us would not do it?

[SPEAKER_01]: You do the show off the gorgeous bod that you have worked so hard on.

[SPEAKER_01]: You've shown us these dance moves.

[SPEAKER_01]: Where did the dancing confidence come from?

[SPEAKER_01]: I want to know if I ever want to put a phone on a tripod and do a dance.

[SPEAKER_01]: fear that my face would get so red from these sheer active it, I would never be able to actually go through with it.

[SPEAKER_01]: Any advice for us, people that want to show our dancing through life side.

[SPEAKER_00]: Honestly like I got a lot of my dancing.

[SPEAKER_00]: I did show choir in high school along like musical theater loved show choir singing and dancing It was like where I was like, oh, yeah, no, I'm definitely a faggot But honestly like I feel like every time that I do a dancing video I like lose myself in the song like that's what happens when I start to dance is like kind of just like dance like no one's watching and I'm just like, you know what [SPEAKER_01]: This is how my body moves and I don't know, I'm just trying to have as much fun as I can and I think it like resonates and people can kind of connect with that which is 100% I look at people like you and I feel like man I love to like go off on a dance floor or be home by myself and sing and sing and sing shit, but it's another thing to actually like put it out for the world to see it's another is a lot of like [SPEAKER_01]: queer sort of shame that comes from being perceived, I think, and I just, I really, um, I do admire you for, for all you're doing.

[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I know you're going to continue to take over the internet because, uh, it's, it's no, it's all looking gorgeous.

[SPEAKER_01]: Um, now I asked you before we recorded to think about any out of either dating or hookup story that feels memorable, whether it was formative, controversial, super hot, do any stories come to mind?

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, honestly, I feel like there was one that was very, very formative, and so essentially like, I had matched with this guy.

[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, I think it was like Tinder at the time.

[SPEAKER_00]: This was both of the COVID.

[SPEAKER_00]: And we had like, chat at back and forth.

[SPEAKER_00]: He was cute.

[SPEAKER_00]: Like, we ended up like meeting up for coffee.

[SPEAKER_00]: And he had catfished me.

[SPEAKER_00]: And he had catfished me in the sense that like his photos were very, like old.

[SPEAKER_00]: So like he had gained a lot of weight since then.

[SPEAKER_00]: But [SPEAKER_00]: we get there and you can tell that he's like super nervous about it and he's like oh like I feel so bad like you know my photos were older like if you don't want to continue to date that's fine and I was like looking at him and I was like I honestly prefer you bigger and like I think it was really formative for me and I realized that I just loved like a thick like belly demand and so that's when I like really discovered like okay now like I'm into like some big [SPEAKER_01]: So you want to be crushed under the way.

[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.

[SPEAKER_01]: Big ol yummy man.

[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.

[SPEAKER_00]: And then I like got it and then I like learned about the whole gaining community in the past like a couple years and so it's like completely blew my mind that that should even exist.

[SPEAKER_01]: Can you explain for anybody who doesn't know like what is the whole gaining thing?

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, there's just like a lot of people that really love being fed or feeding someone and looking to get as big of a belly or like gain as much weight as possible.

[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like I'm very much just like an admirer like I just like looking at the belly.

[SPEAKER_00]: I don't really like being fed or feeding anyone, but it's just like I don't know.

[SPEAKER_00]: There's something about a big ol' hairy belly.

[SPEAKER_01]: Oh my god, I mean, listen, I fucking love a big hairy belly.

[SPEAKER_01]: I love it's the fun part about I think getting older and I've talked about this a lot is expanding what we're into because oh, yeah Let's call a spade a spade what we were told growing up is not only being gay bad, but also thinness is number one if you are not thin [SPEAKER_01]: Then you have no value being fat is disgusting whatever and um, and I fucking like if I gain 10 pounds like right now I just spent a week at my parents in St.

Louis a week in Palm Springs eating whatever the fuck I wanted And I look in the mirror and I was and I started to feel those feelings of like You've gained some weight.

[SPEAKER_01]: Should you feel bad about yourself and I've had to do a lot of active like self-talk to be like [SPEAKER_01]: A of all probably no one can see a fucking difference and be it even if I gain 50 pounds whatever it is like my value doesn't change.

[SPEAKER_01]: I'm still just as hot.

[SPEAKER_01]: I'm still just as blank blank blank blank but um I want to get into the with you what really turns you on about a big guy like like let's say you're in the act with the belly What are we doing to the belly what's going down?

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[SPEAKER_01]: We have Derek Cage, Patrick, Nick, Thanos, Mark, they're all hot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I love you, bye!