Welcome to Brief pre size.

I'm Michael Foote, I'm Melissa Albro.

Today we're going to be talking about Melissa's quest to buy a new car, gasoline panties.

We have a special guest and a snap and she's going to talk about the bank she has that I don't have.

We're going to talk about body image issues, discrimination lawsuits, and all your questions from the DM So stick around.

Oh wait, invite a new little party.

You knew that I wasn't going to go, but that and that is what you wanted.

That's what I wanted.

I know, but but I mean you knew that I wasn't going to come.

What did I do this weekend?

I have to complain about Okay, Yeah, get on the record please.

And I'm going to complain about this, these two things, knowing knowing that I am in a place of privilege, right, I'm super lucky, very blessed.

Yes, Sarah, I know that's nice.

Give me the fucking complaint.

I bought a new car.

I bought a new car.

This is like a really privileged Okay, I said.

I thought it was going to be like no, no, no, I sent back my entree.

No no, no, It's like I invested in a huge automobile.

I mean it with hundreds of thousands, and it's a g wagon.

It is No, it's not.

It's the rim spin that just keep spend.

Spend that kind of money on it.

Oh I would I love a little large ass, a little disposed of income.

Yeah, no, no, anyway, I'm disgusting.

I'm an American, I'm from Long Island.

I'm sorry to hear that.

I don't know what to say to you.

I don't have like a fun cultural background like you.

I'm just a white boy.

I need to understand, and I really want somebody who is in the know to get back to me on this.

I need to understand why it takes so fucking long to buy a car.

I got to the dealership.

Oh my god, o'clock in the morning.

Can we just order it on seamless?

This is actually any and I'm sorry anyone who's broke listening to this, but it is actually a nightmare.

I mean, I think it doesn't even matter how much money you're right, if you're into buyer car, you're buying a car.

Why can't we just call forward and be like, Hi, I want a car?

No, you have to go to some guy on at four different guy it is actually wild, and all of them gave you a different price in an answer and everything.

No, no, no, that's not what it was.

But it was like everybody at every different level, right I got so first I had my salesperson, okay, fine, Then I met like every fucking level of manager.

It took all day, and I gotta tell you, I mean I.

Would have charged them for a meet and greet, not to.

Like toot my own horn, but like I got a good credit score and I had the money, right, so like, what's.

The what's the old boys?

Yeah, no, eight o'clock in the morning.

I think I started really looking at like nine because I was there to get my regular car serviced.

I did not walk out of that lot with the car until three o'clock in the afternoon, Michael, and I was I'm.

Sorry, life is sure?

That is?

That is so I would have liked I couldn't.

At the end of it, I was like shaking.

Oh my god, no, so mad, No, I would that's crazy, egregious and like you're buying a car.

You wanted to be like a fun joyous I was not.

I'm pissed.

Off at the car again.

Yeah, And then I was reading a thing because I was trying to buy a car and Carbana or like one of those is.

That easy apps?

I thought it would be, but it wasn't and I ended up not doing it.

And then I read a report that those prices were wrong and that they're maybe being sued.

I don't know, fact check me.

Someone comment below if you bought something from one of those, but I really liked car website.

Somebody, either you own a car dealership or you're a car salesperson, put me on so that I can avoid this movie.

Yeah yeah, Or if you're a car company and wants to the show, please let us know, because this is it's agregious.

The other thing, now, this is I was really thinking about this because I'm thinking about people who were going into a new month without benefits and the cost of of how much it costs to eat healthy?

Right, So, again understanding that I'm coming at this from a place of privilege.

I was going through a farmer's market and I decided that I was going to buy an apple.

One apple.

How much did that apple cost me?

Michael A couple bucks?

I bet four dollars.

Oh my God, that's crazy.

And I bought it, and I spend money on the stupidest shit.

I'm like, oh, a fifty dollars delivery, Yeah, that's fine.

I'm like, and I really mow through money.

I set it on fire.

What are you buying?

That's the problem is I don't know what I'm buying.

Yeah, I'm just like top top every everywhere I go, I'm tapping.

Yeah, you know what.

I think.

This used to happen to me a lot.

But you sort of go out and you spend you know, you've spent money, but all you have to show for it is like a pack of.

Gum and it's regret.

Yeah, no, yt yeah.

They say, like wake up in New York.

It costs like one hundred dollars just to wake up, and it's death by a thousand paper cuts because it's like, oh, thirty dollars here, thirty dollars there, twenty nine ninety nine for this.

Everything is thirty to forty dollars now, and before you buying four of them a day, yeah, and then another thing and then like, oh I need a special treat.

I always have to get a special treat.

Melissa saw me drinking a coke.

When I came in here, she was like, what are you doing?

And I was like, once a month, the little demon that lives inside me says, you have to drink a coke in order to feel better.

And it's great.

I love it.

If you're getting a migraine, Oh, coke, coke, a Coca cola.

And either saltines.

Pretzels, pretzels, pretzels.

That is the only thing.

No migraine medication works.

I just do that and it's great.

A coke and some pretzels.

Yeah, okay, Well, let's go into a sidebar because something crazy happened to me.

This is sidebar.

I don't have rona, do you No.

I'm like, I'm fine, don't give me that rona.

I oh man, I'll be so much I will probably stop talking to you.

I've had COVID so many times.

I'm like a superbug.

Okay, I don't want it.

Yeah, I don't have it.

All right.

If I get it, it's because he gave it to me.

If I had a dollar for every time a man said that to me, I would actually I would be able to pay my fucking AMEX bill.

You still haven't told me what you bought I.

Mean a lot of it is like flights.

I'm like, okay, So I am at that point in my life where I have set standards and pract best practices for myself.

I don't sit in anything but business class anymore.

And that is like and I've worked hard to get here.

Utens.

Also, we've talked about dry cleaning bills that one hundred dollars a week easily for just wearing the shirt to the show.

Today, this is going to be eight dollars to dry clean.

Just to clean it, I had to pay for the shirt, sure, and now every time I wear it, I pay too.

Oh wait, last episode, we promised the world that we would talk about your dad on a jury, and because we ran out of time, we didn't get to it.

You have to tell the story of your father.

Sorry, non sequitur, just diving in here to Joel.

Here's the thing about people being on juries that I think we have to sort of be aware of, Like, sometimes you will get a man like my father, who we missed very much.

But I remember my dad was on a jury and I said to him was it going?

And he was just like he did it?

And I was like, who He's.

Like, No, Missa.

He did.

And I was like, how do you know that he did it?

And he said, it was two o'clock in the morning.

What was he doing out?

If he good?

And I remember me and my brother looking at each other and I said, pop in the morning, he does not mean And he was like, and he said to me, has anything good ever happened at two o'clock in the morning.

And I gotta tell you, he kind of got you with That got me so beware of people like my dad on a tree, who's like it was two oclock in the morning, or they were wearing those pants or whatever it was.

That's actually criminal defense lawyer's greatest nightmare is that Joel is on the jury.

I've spent a year building a fucking defense for this person and we've got Joel on the jury who's got glasses on like this.

Can we drop a picture of my dad?

I don't, yeah, drop in a photo drone not doing a good impression.

Uh, he was out at two in the morning.

It's clearly guilty.

Guilty as hell, Oh my god, and my capital punishment for me.

Then my dad meant that shit did convict.

I don't remember what happened.

It's a long time ago.

It was a long time ago, but I remember, and I remember trying to say to my father, that's not a good enough reason.

Yeah it is.

It sounds like he did.

I think, well, you know what happened.

It sounds like he was not swayed by the other.

And my mom was like co signing.

She was like, sure, but this is a lady who was yelling on her windows for that woman to hit her kid.

Well, this is the other thing is I'm like, Brad, you're married to a defense attorney.

He was on a jury once and he was the foreman.

But I feel like Brad was listening, really carefully.

Doing his and he ended up convicting.

I was like, I can't believe you're convicted.

Did the guy deserve it?

Wow?

Microaggression?

Guy.

Women can be guilty too, Yes they can, but yeah it was a guy.

It's mostly men who are guilty.

I'm going to say it's not all.

Not all men, but most of them, and no women and no women.

All right, Well, I'm excited we have Anna Snaps in the studio today.

Wait to meet hers.

I'm so excited.

I can't wait to meet her.

So she's going to be joining us for under Oath, where we're going to be talking about some interesting like fat discrimination lawsuits and the law behind it.

It gets kind of weird and I feel like we'll probably get derailed big time.

But the best intentions conversation.

What is that the road to hell is paved with good intentions and we're going straight in, so we'll be right back.

Gasoline panies.

You're listening to brief Recess.

Did you say gasoline panties?

Is that a saying?

I say that that's a great fashion line that is no monetize that this segment is called under Oath.

I'm here with my good friend, demonic, evil, man hating wench Anna Snap.

I love her so much.

Please a longime briefs that she looks scandalized.

My ancestors, thank you very much.

They speak of her.

I've never heard that sentience when.

Speak.

She's iconic.

I know her from all over the internet, and I welcome.

We wanted to talk about all sorts of I mean.

Excited to have you.

Yeah, don't you.

Apparently I'm a man hating wench.

And you're in good company.

You're seriously, you are not alone, everyone, you are not alone.

I am here with you.

Hi, I'm Anna.

We're meeting for the first time in person.

Oh my god, iconic for so long.

I'm so excited to meet you in person.

I know it's so I'm.

We've been we've been talking without you.

Wait, well, is.

A whole shit list, I dm her, I said, I think I am so much.

I'm so mad those of you who just listening you didn't see Anna is doing this thing with her hair, with her bangs, that is.

I am so mad.

I can't do it.

Thank you so much.

Clocking doesn't mean you can't just.

Delusional bitch imaginary hair.

Yes, well, thank you for joining us, Adam.

We really wanted to talk about I mean, you are so vocal online about all sorts of issues that fat people face, that plus size actors face.

You and I have talked about this extensively as well together, so I thought it'd be great to have you on because we cover all sorts of different lawsuits here on the show, and there have been a lot of really interesting discrimination cases around like fat people, plus size people, whatever the verticular is that you use and prefer.

But also Melissa and I have like some really interesting personal experiences in this space.

I don't know.

If you want to speak to that, I can speak to mine, which I was a really fat kid and I've been on a diet since I was like in the nineties.

So died on the in the nineties.

It's shocking.

I never heard of that man.

And I also was a fat kid, a fa adolescent, a fat young woman also had been on a diet.

I remember being in the first grade going to my pediatrician.

That's a schwartz who's no longer with us, and it was it was the worst.

It was the worst kind of thing to give to a kid, right, So it was like a hamburger, patty, no bunt, a scoop of cottage cheese that's actually is not the.

Cottage.

Oh my god.

So you're an actor.

I am, okay, not a paid crisis actor, but you have you've been doing a one woman show.

I think I have two one woman shows.

Actually the woman heard that's what we've been doing about.

No two one woman shows.

One is autobiographical and I've been performing it for like a decade international and it's about my experience with chronic illness, a passive an eating disorder PTSD, mental illness, just a little concoction.

So really light hearted.

Yea, it is.

Partially comedy, is mostly drama.

But what's funny is that I randomly got picked up by the medical community, so I'll perform for like doctors and students and stuff.

So that's been awesome.

Yeah, but yeah, it's been cool.

I perform it, like performed off Broadway, I performed at Edinburgh Fringe.

I performed.

For the medical community, Like what what are you doing?

So I do the show and then there's often like a talk back or like a panel discussion to like let especially like med students ask questions because obviously they're taught the science, but they're not always taught like the empathy in the bedside manner and kind of the human side of medicine definitely ties into this.

Sort of like discrimination and.

The fatness and being a bigger body, especially as it relates to like eating disorders or just being in a bigger body, and how it relates to even like chronic illness and stuff.

And then my other one woman show, I all created over Lockdown.

I interviewed like over four hundred people about their experience battling and eating disorder, and then I created something called a verbatim theater piece where you basically recreate their voice on stage, so like if they have an accent, if they pause, if they say, if they haven't whatever.

It is cut down there interview into like a monologue.

So I performed ten different characters, including my own stories.

So that's so weird.

I just had my autobiographical show in Philly like a few weeks ago.

I'm trying to do it again next year.

I'm trying to bring it back to New York.

So okay, So if you're launching this, and if you're a producer, police, reach Ore Sas at exactly right Media dot com and we'll put you in touch with Anna Snaps.

We do dream making here exactly Right we.

Are.

I thought it would be cool to kind of talk about this, Like, there's this discrimination lawsuit that's currently like making its way through the New York system.

It's called Harris by New York, and it was a civil servant applicant who was trying to become a civil servant to become a probation officer.

So I do with probation officers like all the time as a criminal defense lawyer, and they basically denied her because of her size.

So it's really interesting.

Fat is not like a protected class under any US federal law, so you technically can't sue under federal law for like fat discrimination.

So there are some like interesting workarounds that I found that, like, people sometimes will sue under the American Disabilities Act the ADA, which is like very established federal law that people sue under, but most courts have held that, like obesity isn't a disability that and that is the argument that plaintiffs make right when they've been discriminated against because of their size, they then argue that under the ADA, they're being discriminated against because of their weight.

One of the interesting things that people have been able to do is like if it is connected to like a medical issue.

So if you say, like this medical issue equals my body being a different size, then I'm able you're able to sort of find relief under the ADA.

You know what that sounds like.

I mean, I know it's not exactly the same thing, but it's I've had two aunts who had been flight attendants, and you used to have to do weight check in order to be a flight attendant, and it was like five to two to five nine and no more than one hundred and thirty five pounds, and it has nothing to do with being able to do the job.

It was all about the aesthetics.

So you needed to be no glasses, unblemished, unmarried, no kids, white.

That is actually the criteria when we were casting this show.

So and look at what happened.

And joked it's okay, I'll go fuck myself.

Yeah anyway, could continue flight attendant.

But yeah, it just had to do with aesthetics, right, So nothing to actually having.

To do do that on Emirates.

One.

I don't know about Emirates, but the last time that they were actually doing that still in the United States was nineteen ninety five, which is really just about crazy.

Which is when I was on Weight Watchers.

Yeah, like it was like around that time.

Yeah, wow, that's extraordinary, Like we're.

Todd that that's the aesthetic, you know what I mean, it's not even like that.

That's like like hundreds of years ago, if you were fat, you were worshiped because it meant you had money.

Do I have money?

No, but.

It should be she's self around the world.

Michael and Melissa, what's it like being.

Poor porn worshiped?

So basically, I mean we really don't need to cover the case.

It's like you want to just keep talking.

But you were, you were talking a little bit about the airlines.

It was, and just again it's it was all about the aesthetic.

Had absolutely nothing to do with how well you could do the job or whether or not you could do the job.

But for them to be a flight attendant, a stewardess as they were called back in the day, is that you needed to be approachable but also glamorized, right, So like, okay, so that's why you had to be a certain weight and if you and if you gained weight, you were fired.

What it was and this was the airline your aunt worked for, yees.

So I had an aunt who worked for pan Am and we still think that the reason why she got that job, because it was back in the sixties was she was very fair skin and white presenting.

Right.

She used to be on weight check all the time.

I mean speaking of like discrimination and the work and like casting people for like jobs Abercrombie and Fitch, do you remember.

That, Yeah, well no, it's burned in my memory.

They were constantly and they got I think they got suited and they were like, yeah, we did it.

Like they didn't even yes, yeah, oh yeah, it was like only white people too, Like the black people were given stock.

Yes, did you see that documentary about where they had like the fat black people in the back?

They had no idea what was going on.

I've been in social situations where people have put me in the back of the picture because they don't want I ruined the aesthetic this was I was younger, like, this is not not people I surround myself with now.

But like people will be like, oh, you're the tallest.

I'm like, there's a bitch of six two.

I'm not the tallest.

I'm the gods.

Like what I mean?

And people will put you like that is an aesthetic thing, and you you'll see it where you see like groups of people who don't have a single friend that's like above a size six or something, and you're like, they're that's like a that's that's like if you don't have any friends that are in a bigger body or queer or like a person of color.

I'm like, what's going on here?

What's what's going on here?

What's going on in the home?

You know what's really interesting about that?

Like people sort of asking you to sort of sit in the back because you don't fit the aesthetic, I can tell you.

And I think this is and I I was saying this the other day when we were talking to Karen and Georgia.

Right, it's like, yeah, I wish so badly that when I was growing up there was this body positivity movement that I feel like, I wish so badly that I had been able to take advantage of, because I grew up in this place of self loathing, right, like a lot of people who and people who loved me right who did who would say things to me like such a pretty face, if only right?

And so I think what ended up happening to me was not so much that people were putting me in the back.

I was putting myself in the back, because I have pictures of myself and it's something that I only really saw after I lost weight, was how I was sort of like hunching over and like sort of wearing like extra baggy clothes, trying really hard to not be seen at all totally and putting myself in the back more than people actually doing this.

It was like a self selecting Yeah.

Really really, but it's so I would hope that there's somebody who's like studying that because I was fucked up for a really long time.

Yeah, it's like the way we treat ourselves as almost.

Like where Oh, it's so evident.

I mean when I like, my body has changed a lot over the years due to just like health conditions, and when I was actually thinner and I thought fat was a bad word and I hated my body.

Now that I'm not afraid to like be seen, it translates so differently.

It's like now that I'm just like whatever, Like I love myself.

I think I'm hot, and I don't think fat is a bad word, which obviously there's a lot of like fat is ugly, fat is lazy, fat.

Is inert sort of negative term here.

But like I didn't I was like closed off with my body language and stuff when I was slightly thinner, like I didn't want to be seen or take up space.

And now that I'm bigger and I actually want to take up space, I get the most attention from like men that I ever have, and I don't like you're.

Non self conscious, Yeah, and like you especially like energetically when you're open to the world like that, the world really does meet you where you are, yes of the time, so like if you are not, if you're closing yourself up, you're self selecting or putting yourself in the back.

Right, Like the subversive messaging I was receiving when I was fat was like the less of you, the better, Like we are only happy when there's less of you.

Like, and that is like for a twelve year old like gay kid to like receive that message from authority, Like you listen to authority when you're a kid, like when you're coming up and like you're you're trying to just like follow the rules, so like kind of getting that notion that like you should be the toned down version of yourself.

And also when it's again when it's somebody who is supposed to love you, right a parent, you know, a good friend, a relative, and they're telling you be less of you.

Yes, if we would love you more, that's the message you're hearing, right, we would love you more if there was less of you, if you were not as big, if you were quieter, more reserved, if you sort of like staying in your place, like all these things that we get.

And it's like, especially back then, like in the nineties, it's like fat was equal to really bad health, awful things are going to happen to you.

So like parents at the time were like, oh, we're just trying to like keep our kids safe, Like they're just trying to like it.

Started as good intentions, but like with everything that's come out, it's kind of like, well, you have to like a lot more.

And also like I was always told I was too much like personality wise too, but also like I think obviously the world wants women to be smaller, so and this sort of like you know skinny Apocalypse ozentthic era where it's like less of women both like metaphorically and physically is better better like in quotation.

But yeah, it's like, I mean I have people in my life who I love dearly and they make comments that I clock or they like reels on Instagram that I see, where like it's not you saying fat people are awful, but it's it's like the microaggression of like, oh that's a joke, that that's your internalized suff and I'm someone too where I'm like I never want a friend to feel like they can't talk to me about body image stuff because we're all victims to it.

It's like we're all in.

This system, so it's not like just fat, but it's also.

Like it's internalized stuff, and so that's everyone's journey, and I'm grateful that I'm on a different level of that journey where I'm like, I don't hate myself, but it's like crazy like I'll do like modeling or like boudoir shoots and the photographers photographers will say to me like I have like really skinny women come in who like do not want to show their stomach, and they're like, you're in.

Here being like, oh my god, it's just like an energy thing.

But I feel so bad that like so many people that being told that.

They're like and they're like, not, you don't have.

To be fat to hate your body, right, Like a lot of skinny people are self conscious.

Yeah, it really is like you're.

Saying, like an it's you know the old you know, as somebody who's going through perimenopause.

I'm getting older, and like today I was looking at myself.

I was going to do I'm going to record myself and do like a TikTok, and I was looking at my face and I was like, who do you know crazy?

By the way, because you're like strikingly.

But do you know what I'm saying?

Though it's like and and so what what have I been listening?

What is the message that I have been getting that like, there is something wrong with getting older?

Oh my god, right, there's something wrong with getting older.

There's something wrong with having like extra skin, or being flabby, or being fat, or being too short or being like they are all these things that we hear.

And you have to be very very careful and super self aware to not give in to that, right, And it takes a long time to unlearn those things.

And I keep on going back to it, like I wish so badly that I had heard that I was okay the way that I was, and that it you know, if you want to lose weight, that's fine.

If you don't, that's fine.

Also, I had this conversation with a family member who was trying to get me to get another family member to have weight loss surgery because I had had it, right, you should tell them that they should do it, And I was like, I'm not going to tell them shit, Like they can do it if they want to, but there's nothing wrong with this person.

They could stay the way that they are.

They are are and beautiful and all the things that one should But for.

That, I'm like, why do people feel like it's okay to tell other people how their lives should be lived?

That is?

It really boils down to that, Like, but at the end of the day, it's like, why do you feel like it's okay to like and I see this where it's like, oh, well, I'm just trying to help them be healthy, and it's like, well, I'm just trying to get you to not sound like a fucking idiot, like don't put your foot in your mouth like that where helped?

I really really think that there are people who truly believe.

Yeah, they are saying that they're helping.

They're trying to help, and it is coming from a place of love, but they don't understand.

There's they don't understand the nuance and there's more.

It's more than just like fat equals bad and unhealthy, right, Yeah.

I have skinny friends who popeyes eight times a week, and you know, like, and people don't understand that you can, like I exercise not with the intent of losing weight, but with the intent of taking care of my body.

Yes, and I like sometimes my weight fluctuates and sometimes it doesn't.

But people that's like, why wouldn't you want to lose weight?

And I'm like, actually, my body, like I don't know.

As I started, I stopped playing myself like I exercise like and I'm very active, but I just completely stopped weighing myself because I was like, this is not an indicator of success or failure or health, like this is.

You are the center.

This is.

You know, weigh yourself anymore at all.

I don't help because it would send me into a fucking tail spin.

I'd be like, oh my god, I'm doing all this work and I'm gaining weight or I'm doing none of this, I'm losing like yeah, And it was just like and I was just like, at no point, my friend in her bathroom has a scale where when you step on it, it just gives you a compliment.

It doesn't giveveryone a number.

And it's like, I weigh myself every time I'm at her fucking house because I'm like, I'm.

Giving you when that says you are the episode and you look.

Great, and it's just like it was It's just like it's cute and goofy, but it's it's a reminder that like, yeah, this doesn't fucking matter.

This is just Earth's gravity pulling you down to the Earth.

And what that actual like equates to.

Different weights look different on different people.

Like I was with I was at Plus Brooklyn, which is like a really awesome New York City's like only like consignment shop for plus sized people, maybe like Vintage Plus Brooklyn.

It's amazing.

I'm there all the time, and they it's a really safe space for like bigger bodies to find fashion in a brick and mortar store, which you can't do.

You can't just like walk into them all and find and outfit as a plus size bro.

You can't.

And I was with someone and we were talking about like just like our sizes and we have two very different bodies and wear the same size, and like you can't.

I'm sure we're different weights, but like you just can't ever tell.

You just can't.

So like, yeah, wait, settles in on somebody in a lot of different ways.

The genetic I mean, there's a lot that comes into it.

I used to do this really fucked up thing where I would I got on the scale every day, I would take a picture of it, and I had a folder in my phone with my you know, and and I finally was like, that's weird, Melissa, you should stop doing that.

I started to realize it was really bad for me because, like Michael said, depending on what the number said, it would send.

Me of what you whether you had a good day or not.

Yeah, it would.

It would determine that my good day or not.

And I was a much I realized that I was a much happier person when I got rid of it.

I believe in them all and I don't do it anymore.

This case was super interesting.

Basically like the Department of Probation cited medical fitness, but they couldn't show up policy or standard behind it, which really boils down to like, we just don't like this.

And also like I see this all the time of lawsuits where it's like a thing happens, a person gets fired, there was no policy that they did it, they shouldn't have been doing it, and then they get sued and they're like, oh, well we have some policy, but they like they can't back it up and they know they fucked up.

Yeah, so we know how it ended for that.

So this is still ongoing article.

It's like it hasn't it been going on for years two yes, yeah.

And it's also like there's going to be a settlement.

There's got to be a settlement or something like this is ongoing.

But the time this poor person, they're like their life is i mean not at a standstill, but there's something that they were trying to do.

Yeah, where's my fucking job.

I was trying to get a paycheck, Like it wasn't like you're.

And now I'm I don't know, dumping all my money into this stupid say.

Doubling down is crazy, Like you're at a point where you can just be like, hey.

That's not cool.

I should be on learning this this stuff and like I'm really sorry, here's money, Like you could get out of this so easily.

I was.

I was flying this is actually I was flying this weekend and a fat person sat next to me and I turned to him and I was like, I'm six four almost six y five, and I was like I don't fit on this like he was he was like sorry, sorry, and I was like I don't fit on this plane either, man, Like I'm I can't stand up in the bathroom.

This is this plane wasn't made for people like this wasn't made for us.

I'm wearing like business class.

But if neither of us track is more comfortable, it's the organization, It's the institution, right.

Well.

I was telling someone today at Plus Brooklyn that weird time about how me and this other girl had both been stuck at one point in the emergency like aisle and you're not allowed to be in it if you're a certain size.

So like one time I was on the plane and they were like, actually, they said in front of the whole packed plane, they were like, you have to you're too big to be in this seat.

You need to move.

And so then I had to like go around and like ask different people to move, and people wouldn't move.

So it was just like this like scene in front of the plane, and like it was It's one of those things where like I don't feel ashamed by how I look.

I actually think I'm beautiful, But like when you're in a position like that where you know what other people think and you're just sort of like it's delaying the taking off and stuff, and this happened.

This happens a lot to people.

Because let's suit about that.

That is really fucked up.

It's fine.

You don't want me to sit in this seat because you think that I'm too big?

Fine, how dare you make me go around asking people.

To make someone you make something?

Yeah?

Sorry, I can't even talk about like that is no, that's outrageous though, honestly, like the idea, the audacity to make you do that job.

I'm like, I could say, people.

Like you think I'm not.

You think to be like, let's throw you in the water.

I will tell you so my dad, my dad.

I used to make travel amazements for my father, and as my father was getting older, I started to feel like, Dad, you really shouldn't be in that seat because you can't help anybody do anything.

He's like, I'm not helping.

I don't He's like, I don't care, I'm not helping you help do anything.

He's like, but I want the extra leg room or whatever it was.

I was like, okay, honestly fair though, if I said that to the flight attendant, They're like, you need to move your two fat and I'm like, well I need.

What are you going to cost me to one?

Age?

Well, and thank you for joining us.

This has been so glad we got it.

Come back and see us.

This was great and my god, yeah, tell us your socials and let everybody know what you're going to be taking your show on the road again.

This is your camera, so straight to canter all your socials flip it.

Okay, I'm anna snap and my my socials are the Anna snap t A G A N N A S N A P P.

There are two p's in snaps.

And when we're talking about, you know, opening yourself up to the world, what sort of messages are you looking to receive and from whom?

Oh, thank you so much for your work and your words.

I here's what I'm open to.

Okay.

I love compliments, I love praise.

Yeah, period, that's kidding.

Yes, into my DMS.

I'm single.

And love it, love it.

And also both Michael and I are following Anna, so if you.

Find yeah, yes you can find.

And I have no followers, so you'll be really easy.

But not for love.

Thank you for joining us.

In real life.

Oh my god, we have to do it again.

Yeah, this is tales from the DMS, where you guys send me the weirdest, craziest, nuttiest, freakiest things you find on the internet and you send them to me.

In the form of a question, and I answer it as a lawyer.

But remember, friends, like I always tell you, while Michael is a lawyer, he is not your lawyer.

All right, So this is our first question.

First question.

I had a best friend for about eight years.

Maybe they were a very wealthy family.

I was there like personal assistant whatnot.

And I did a lot of tasks for them and they couldn't They didn't pay me in cash.

They said they were like low on gosh, so they would pay me with like old designer bags.

Okay, stop stop.

First of all.

First of all, first of all, beautiful voice.

Next whatever.

But I was already annoyed when I heard that.

He was like, well, you know, I was my best friend, but I was working for them for no money.

What they were taking A.

Said, yes, yeah, that have some self respect something.

I mean, I mean, way to victim blame Michael.

Right, yeah, we don't Actually we don't understand.

Showing him on the family right.

Yeah again on the family.

And it is too bad that you were I mean, I'm assuming in a situation where you felt like you had to do this, But I already don't like this.

It sounds like this, Okay, So the question, really, the crux of the question really is that, like he was arrested for selling these bags given to him as payment.

It was no big deal.

In college, this friend was a roommate.

They this this man lived in his friend's house as a roommate and paid rent.

Moved to a new city, accuser of stealing stop by.

The police had a warrant for my arrest for theft considered state jail felony theft.

Okay, so these were like beat up designer bags.

They accused him of stealing the bags from this house.

But it sounds like they couldn't pay him in cash originally, So this.

Is like like almost like a barter.

Yeah, but also like if they couldn't pay you originally, that's the first sign that they're broke.

And now they're trying to operation repo the fucking bags.

Like that's messed up.

I'm sorry, excuse me, your luck pay a fucking employee.

You then paid them in goods, and then you were like give.

Me that back, but not even like good goods, beat up goods.

This is all of this is sitting very wrong with me.

It's leaving a bad taste in the mouth.

So insofar as like the law.

The fact that there's a warrant out for your arrest, I know you haven't heard in a while, Like that is concerning to me.

Like warrants don't expire, they're just not enforced.

So I would A felony arrest can't be ignored.

It's not just gonna like go away on its own, So I would.

I would contact like the court or a clerk somehow wherever it was issued and try and find out, like if it's still an active warrant.

Should this person see a lawyer?

That sounds oh, definitely likes find a lawyer, friends, because waiting six months to resolve a warrant, like ken, I did not like.

This for you at all.

I'm actually I hate uestions like this because now what's gonna what's gonna happen to me is like I'm going to be thinking about this.

Yes, Well, the other thing is, don't fucking talk to that roommate.

Don't communicate with the accuser because anything you're saying, they're compiling evidence and you should be compiling evidence too.

So like any comms they sent you, any emails, you have receipts, like you were given the bags as payment, and that's technically like a legal transfer, not theft.

You're just gonna have to like prove that somehow.

So if there you'll have to like show services rendered.

I know they didn't give you a receipt for the bags, but I would want you to sort of dig and show that like you did do work and there there was some sort of like exchange for this rather than theft.

I mean, you tell me, Michael, like see if there are like any emails or text messages referree to like like living there in like work.

You're gonna do yeah, right, everything done verbally like that is what I would really dig in.

If this were my client, I would get around that.

Please, if you can go see an attorney.

I'm very worried about you.

I really like that's I mean, that's very sweet of you.

Yeah, definitely, yeah.

But I hate I hate bullies.

I hate shit like this.

Yeah, and like the fact that they were they're trying to take them back and they also do pay you also just fucking pay the part like that is so weird.

I don't like any something's not adding up, something's wrong anyway.

This has been tales from the DMS.

Feel free to send us your questions anything, any weird legal questions do you have on your mind?

Send them our way.

Y'all asked me about driverless cars, and I was in a driverless driverless car last week and it was really fun to like, yeah, I loved it.

Was it weird?

I prefer it is it because you don't want to be spoken to, because I don't.

If I don't want to be perceived by the Internet as someone who don't make eye contact with me.

But I did love not having to chat and there it was immaculate.

It was so clean.

It was so clean, and it kind of drove like a messy bitch, like it drove like a taxi driver, like it was not like super robotic.

I was like, oh, you almost killed her.

Yeah.

It was really like driving as if it were like you and I were driving, where it's like pulls up and like slams on the brakes or like right on red.

Like there was all sorts of stuff where it was like, oh, wow, this is like a real person.

I thought it was going to be like you know, the fucking airport trolley.

Yeah, yeah, it goes really really slow and it's like a right.

But pretty fuch.

I would like something like that is because I don't love endless chatter when I'm in a car.

I don't mind it saying hi, obviously I love that, but like the constant chattering while I'm in a cab or something just kind.

Of I'm like that with a massage too.

Oh, I prefer a silent massage.

Yeah, and I'll tell them up up top.

Thank you so much.

I'm probably going to fall asleep, yeah, so feel free to.

Not my massage caret AOD.

And I'll wave if I need you.

Yeah.

Yeah, anyway, this has been brief recess.

Thank you so much for joining us.

I'm Michael Foot, I'm Melissa mel Brands.

I'll see you in court.

This has been an exactly right production recorded at iHeart Studios, hosted by me Michael Foot.

And me Melissa Malbrant.

Our producer is CJ.

Ferroni.

This episode was edited by Nicholas Galucci.

Our associate producer is Christina Chamberlain, and our guest booker is Patrick Cottner.

Our theme song was composed by Tom Brifogel with artwork from Charlotte Delarue Manessa Lilac, with photography by Brad Obono.

Brief Recess is executive produced by Karen Kilgareff, Georgia hart Stark, and Danielle Kramer.

You can find me on Instagram at Department of Redundancy Department or on TikTok at Michael Foot.

And I'm on both Instagram and TikTok is Melissa Albrant.

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