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Speaker 2In this episode, we'll be talking about these victims in very graphic terms.
These details are crucial for proving the mistakes and missed opportunities that could have led to the perpetrators capture sooner.
These individuals deserve to be remembered not by the details of their deaths, but by the fullness of their lives.
They are Shannon Gilbert Green, Brainerd Barnes, Megan Waterman, Melissa Bartholemy Amber, Lyn Costello, Jessica Taylor, Valerie Mack, Karen Viergatta, Asian Doe, Tanya, Denise Jackson and Tatiana.
Marie dikes.
Speaker 3Right, yeah, let's try and walk it.
Speaker 4So basically she runs this way.
Speaker 5This is tough.
Hold on, I gotta read in my boot.
Speaker 6This is really what it must have been like, as.
Speaker 7All just reads.
Speaker 5Lit'tuf hurts too ow.
Speaker 2Rachel and I were following Shannon Gilbert's last known path through the treacherous Oak Beach marsh.
While the Seffa County EPD concluded that Shannon died from drowning, there were still many who refused to accept this conclusion.
Speaker 8Shannon Gilbert vanished after making a panic nine one one call.
Speaker 9Police believe Gilbert was simply high and paranoid when she ran into that march and drowned.
Speaker 4But not everyone accepts that Gilbert died accidentally.
Speaker 10There is no evidence whatsoever that Shannon Gilbert died a natural death.
Speaker 2One thing was obvious.
Walking through that same cold marsh, thick with razor sharp reeds, was brutally challenging.
You see twice a day seawater floods of this marsh.
Sometimes it feels like you're walking on a soggy trampling.
Other times you're walking through mud that's like quicksand only colder, and as surprising is it sounds, you can drown in just three feet of marsh.
This whole thing is water.
Speaker 5If you find the wrong place, your foot's going straight through.
Speaker 2It used to be worse.
While hypothermia may have played a role in Shannon's death, skeptics were quick to note that Shannon disappeared in May, when the temperatures were in the fifties.
But if you've spent any time at the beach, you know those pre dawn hours when the wind comes off the ocean could be freezing cold.
We also had boots and gloves and jackets that knew exactly where we were going.
Shannon, on the other hand, ran into the marsh in a panic, heading toward the bright lights of Ocean Parkway about a quarter mile away.
Speaker 5Jeez, it just keeps getting worse.
Speaker 2Ocean Parkway is right there, it's right there.
Speaker 6Ow.
Speaker 5Oh my god, I'm stuck.
Speaker 2But it didn't matter how close we were, because blocking our exit to the highway was a five foot high way up of vines covered in thorns.
Speaker 9All right, I'm gonna do it.
Speaker 2We're not going to get into there.
Finally we found a hole made by police to get to Shannon.
We walked through the path that they cut to get from that road out to here.
It was ridiculous.
Speaker 5You puldn't have made it.
Speaker 2For someone barefoot and barely clothed like Shannon.
It would have been nearly impossible to get to Ocean Parkway, just as impossible as it would have been for someone to carry a body through that marsh.
Speaker 5I'm hoping there's something left.
There was a white cross before.
Speaker 7Guys, do you find it?
Speaker 3Yeah?
Speaker 5Can you imagine ending up here.
Speaker 9So sad?
Speaker 2Seeing Shannon's final resting place about one hundred feet back from that wall of vines, it made logical sense as she could have ended up here her body exhausted, her skin and closed water logged, the freezing cold, making her drowsy as hypothermia sets him, until finally she passes out and drowns just a few feet of water.
But what didn't make sense and is so hard to reconcile, is that Shannon Gilbert, a sex worker who died accidentally in Oak Beach, had somehow led police to the bodies of so many other sex workers over nine miles away wall had been murdered, suggesting what can only be one of the most shocking coincidences in all of true crime.
I'm Josh Seamen, and this is monster hunting the Long Island cyrial killer.
Speaker 11Shannon Gilbert.
Speaker 12It was her disappearance that led to the discovery of bodies along Ocean Parkway.
Speaker 3Shannon Gilbert went missing.
Speaker 6This is Shannon Gilbert.
Speaker 9She vanished, Shannon Gilbert of Jersey City.
And as you just heard police say, it could be weeks before either one.
Speaker 2As Rachel and I had come to learn, the overwhelming mystery of Shannon's death had often undermined the hunt for the Long Island serial killer.
While Shannon had become the face of this case, the ten victims found along Ocean Parkway, who were, without a doubt murdered, never got that same level of media attention.
Shannon's death made for TV headlines of her mother, Mary Gilbert, had hijacked the narrative, including a number of films that fictionalized Mary's search justice.
Speaker 9How can you say Shan is not connected.
Speaker 11She was last seen three miles from the other girls.
Speaker 9She was in her twenties, just like them.
She was small, just like them.
Speaker 11She was on craigs, just like them.
Speaker 2And at times this media attention turned into bizarre spectacle, including a press conference held at Shannon's funeral, led by the family's lawyer.
Speaker 10Shannon, I hear you speaking to your murderer, murderer, I hope you are listening.
Murderer, I hope you are listening.
Speaker 2But lost in the theatrics is an important detail that many have overlooked.
Shannon disappeared on May one, twenty ten.
Less than one month later, in June, Lisk abducted Megan Waterman.
Four months later, he abducted Amberlyn Costello.
In just the four months after Shannon disappeared, Lisk had tragically killed two women, egging the question if Suffolk County had taken Shannon's case more seriously, if they had publicized her disappearance within weeks rather than months, would Lisk have read about it, Would it have deterred him?
And would Megan and Amber still be with us?
Speaker 13I would almost guarantee you he's probably watching every move the police makes on CNN or the local news station.
Speaker 2But there's something else to consider.
List went to Gilgo Beach not once, but twice to discard these victims, while just nine miles away Shannon's family.
The months later, Suffolk County pd we're all searching out beach.
It's even possible that police passed that green avalanche pulled over an ocean parkway.
But we also know that Lisk researched and he studied.
He knew going back to Gilgo Beach was risky, and yet he did it anyway, knowing full well.
That exact same mistake is what led to the capture of Long Island's other notorious serial murderer, Joel Rifkin, back in nineteen ninety three.
Speaker 8Police are investigating at least seventeen murders.
Speaker 12In connection with thirty four year old Joel Rifkin after what started as a routine traffic stop.
Speaker 5There in the arrest, a strong older came from the back of the vehicle.
The troopers investigated and discovered.
Speaker 10The body of the white female wrapped in a talk.
Speaker 9Police say he was on his way to dispose of the body when state troopers tried to pull him over the Farmingdale.
Speaker 2So why would list take such an enormous risk.
Was it that thrill of being so close to police proving he was that much smarter, or that compulsion because Gilgo was special because eight of his victims were already there or maybe he didn't think he had to go elsewhere because of all the time and effort he had spent convincing law enforcement to look in a different dumping ground on the other side of Long Island, in the desolate woods of Manorville.
Speaker 12Suffolk, police call her Jane Doe number six.
Her torso was found in Manorville in two thousand.
Speaker 14Hunters found a black plastic bag that had tape all around it.
Speaker 15They opened up that bag and they found human remains.
Speaker 2She was known only as Jane Doe number six, and in November of two thousand, her remains were found on a hunting trail.
A bird dog had alerted three pheasant hunters to a bag found with duct tap.
Inside was a torso and another bag with her limbs.
One leg was cut just above the mid calf, suggesting the killer had removed a tattoo to prevent her identification.
Eleven years later, police discovered the rest of Jane Doe number six over forty miles away on Gilgo Beach.
Speaker 3Jane Doe number six, whose head, hands, and right foot were recovered along the Ocean Parkway, was linked by DNA to a torso discovered in Manaville.
Speaker 2In twenty twenty two, investigators were able to give back to Jane Doe number six the one thing her killer could never take away her name.
Speaker 11Today, we are announcing that Jane Doe number six has been positively identified as Valerie Mac.
With advances in DNA technology, a genealogy profile was established.
This led HOMSNG investigators to areas of New Jersey.
Valerie Max identification represents progress in this investigation, but there is much work left to do.
Speaker 2Valerie Lynn Fulton had been adopted by the loving Mac family of New Jersey, but as an adult she bounced back and forth between Atlantic City and Philadelphia, engaging in sex work to feed the disease of addiction.
We also know that Valerie left behind a sun whose name she had tattooed on her calf, but when she vanished in two thousand, police were used to file a missing person's report, making it that much harder to identify her remains when they were first found in Manorvild.
Speaker 16All right, so we're crossing thee right now.
This is the middle of the pine barrens, hold on of nothing, and this is our dump side over here.
Speaker 2In twenty fifteen, Timothy Bulger, a reporter for the Long Island Press brought us to Manorville to show us the spot.
Run July twenty third, two thousand and three, residents discovered a second victim, Jessica Taylor, just three years after Jane Doe Number six aka Valerie Mack.
Speaker 16So this is the access road that the killer came down to dumper body, right, so.
Speaker 5You kind of have to know where you're going.
Speaker 16Yeah, for the killer who have gotten to this place, you would have had to go down a couple of roads and right on your left ears where we found Jessica Taylor.
Speaker 4Tonight's Suffa County Police have a murder mystery on their hands.
Police ay a Manorville woman walking her dog came across the body.
The partially decomposed body had been decapitated and both hands were amputated.
Speaker 9Police say the victim also had a tattoo on her back.
Anyone with information is asked to contact the Suffolk County of Police.
Speaker 2Twenty year old Jessica Taylor, a native of Poughkeepsie, was last seen in midtown Manhattan somewhere around July nineteenth, two thousand and three.
According to recent court documents, Jessica called her mother on July twenty first, to arrange a visit for her mother's birthday.
Sadly, Jessica never made it home.
Less than two hours later her final cell phone activity so it's an outgoing call.
At ten twenty two pm.
Investigators believed that Jessica had been picked up somewhere around the Port Authority bus terminal.
Four days later, he remains were found in Manerville, but unlike Valerie Mack, Jessica was found out in the open.
Speaker 16This is where she was found laying on top of a piece of plastic.
Speaker 13A.
Speaker 16Cops had tried to ida here by releasing a photo of her tattoo, which had been sliced up by the killer.
He tried to gouge it out so much they had to push the skin together to try and read it.
Eventually, cops were able to piece together that I said Remy's Angel.
Speaker 2Having recognized the tattoo, the Washington DC detective suspected the missing woman was Jessica Taylor and that Remy was her pimp, Khalil White.
Back in two thousand and three, when a dismembered remains of Valerie and Jessica were first found in Manerville, the police believed they were dealing with is one killer dubbed the Manaville Butcher.
But later when the remains were also found on Ocean Parkway alongside the Gilgo four who were found intact, nobody knew what to think.
Speaker 16That's definitely what's interesting, the effort that the killer talk to try and hide Jessica Taylor's identity.
If you look at the four women in Go Go Beach, they were intact.
There was no effort to hide their identity.
It doesn't make a whole lot of logical sense.
Speaker 2And this confusion over victims both found in Manorville and then Gilgo Beach victims who were found dismembered next to other victims found intact, which suggested two different modus operandi or two killers, would lead to one of the most enduring mysteries of the killing season.
Speaker 5How do the missing remains of Jessica Taylor and Jane do number six, first found in Manorville, suddenly end up more than eight years later and over forty miles away as part of the carnage of Go Go Beach.
Speaker 14Suffix DA revealed new information today about the discovery of bodies along Ocean Parkway.
Speaker 9VOTA announced that the fifth person found, identified as Jessica Taylor, does not appear to be linked with the other four.
Speaker 12Who is responsible for dismembering the woman and discarding their body parts?
Across Suffolk County?
Speaker 2That was the question on everyone's mind, Who is responsible and where the Manorville butcher and the Long Island serial killer to separate killers or possibly the same killer.
Speaker 13The killer or killers of Jane Doe, number six and Miss Taylor went to extraordinary lengths to prevent the victims from being identified.
As disturbing as that is, there is no evidence that all of these remains are that of a single killeth.
Speaker 2These different mos some victims found dismembered while others found intact.
The different dumping grounds the years in between would all spark a frenzied debate over one serial killer verse two, leading to a surreal press conference where police Chief Dormer and da Spoda openly contradicted each other.
Speaker 3The facts of the case indicate one serial killer.
Speaker 1FIGHT very very much disagree with that theory.
Speaker 13I would never even discuss this publicly except I think that the facts do not bear out a single kill a theory at all.
Speaker 2But as Robert Kolker, the author of Lost Girls, reveals there was far more to this dysfunction than just the number of serial killers.
Speaker 17The Subakind Police Department has a very controversial history.
What happens in the police force is really a function of what happens politically in Long Island, and you had a DA who was at odds with the commissioner because they're from separate political factions, and they worried openly about it.
Speaker 14In another bizarre twist in the Gilgo Beach homicide saga, suffix Za Tom.
Speaker 7Spoda has attacked Sufi Police Commissioner Richard Dormer's who done it theories.
Speaker 4Suffic Da Thoms Boda says police now believe they're hunting three killers, not one.
Speaker 14Boda says they now may be looking for four different killers and at least one dump bodies the Long Ocean Parkway.
Speaker 6Now.
Speaker 2In truth, very few police departments have the investigative skills to handle one serial killer case, let alone two serial killers or even three or now four, Nor do they have the expertise to manage the overwhelming media attention.
I mean she do you ever have a police chief publicly saying this?
Speaker 18Should people be scared?
Speaker 7Oh?
Speaker 3No, I don't think.
No, I don't want anybody to think that we have a Jack the Ripper running around selfa county with blood dripping from a knife.
Speaker 2But then again, this isn't the first time police have had to deal with more than one serial killer on Long Island.
From nineteen ninety one to nineteen ninety three, there were in fact two active serial killers operating on Long Island at the same time, that being Joel Rifkin, the unemployed landscaper who confessed to killing seventeen sex workers, and Robert Shulman, opposed to worker who's convicted of killing five sex workers.
Speaker 3Forty two year old Robert Shulman has been charged with murdering and dismembering two prostitutes whose bodies were found in Suffolk County.
Speaker 2It appears coincidental at this time that mister Rifkin was operating at the same time as mister Shulman was engaged in similar activity, and now considering lists twenty three year reign, there were three zero murderers, begging the question what is it about Long Island that breeds such malevolence?
Again, here's Robert Kolker.
Speaker 17I think in Long Island's case, the explanation everybody turns to is that it's this really densely populated area that's right on top of New York City, but everybody's seat of jammed in commuting every day.
Here, everybody's sumping up against one another, and it's like living in a pressure cooker.
Speaker 2In the early days of the Gilgo Beach case, some detectives even questioned if any of the ten bodies could be additional victims of Rifkin ra Schulman.
Of course, the one agency with the experience to help answer those questions was the FBI's Behavioral Analysis Unit, recently memorialized in David Fincher's Mind Hunter.
Speaker 1When we know who the criminal is, we can understand what's set him off.
Speaker 16The question is not only why did the killer do it, but why did the killer do.
Speaker 9It this way?
Speaker 16We are now talking about.
Speaker 2Psychology.
In twenty eleven, the FBI initially consulted on the Gilg case, primarily gathering cell phone data while agents in the Behavioral Analysis Unit began developing a profile of Lisk.
But once the newly appointed police chief, James Burke, took over in January of twenty twelve, he and the DA infamously kicked the FBI off the case, leaving the data analysis half finished and lists profile in complete.
We now know that Berke and Spuda we're trying to keep the Feds at arm's length.
Speaker 10It is the law that the federal authorities should be in this case.
Apparently they'd been bopped out and told to stay away by Suffolk County.
Speaker 2Whether a complete profile of Lisk would have changed the course of the investigation remains to be seen, but one thing is for sure.
Suffolk County's lack of expertise led to a cloud of confusion that had stymied the investigation, a confusion that only grew more baffling with the discovery of the last victims found on Ocean Parkway, including the coldest case of them all, Fire Island.
Jane Doe.
Speaker 10Beach combers made a gruesome discovery on Fire Island.
Officials say two legs wrapped that a plastic bag were found last night.
Speaker 2On April twentieth, nineteen ninety six, two brothers walking along a beach discovered a plastic bag containing the remains of an unidentified woman.
It's presumed the plastic bag was thrown into the water from another location and carried there by the tides.
Fifteen years later, Fire Island Jane Doe's skull was recovered on Ocean Parkway, just over the county line in Nassau County.
Speaker 4The search for more human remains extended into Nassau County.
Today, searchers, some on horseback, would find a skull near Oyster Bay Park.
Speaker 12DNA proves that skull belongs to the same woman whose legs were found wrapped in plastic back in nineteen ninety six.
Speaker 2In twenty twenty two, the Gilgo Beach Task Force teamed with Authorn, the fame forensic genomics company specializing in cold cases, in hopes of creating a new profile for this victim.
Speaker 9For twenty seven years, she was known only as Fire Island Jane Doe.
Today her true name.
Speaker 15We were able to identify Fire Island Jane Doe as Karen Virgatta.
Speaker 2The last time Dominic Virgatta heard from his daughter Karen was on Valentine's Day nineteen ninety six, when she called to wish him a happy birthday.
After months of not hearing from Karen, Dominic tried to file a missing person's report, but the NYPD refused.
In nineteen ninety seven, the Suffolk County Detective revealed that a woman's body had been found, but her degraded DNA didn't match his.
Over the ensuing years, the family had even hired a private investigator, but all to no avail.
Dominic Vigotta died in December of twenty twenty two, just seven months before Karen had finally been identified.
Speaker 10Forgotta was thirty four and living in Manhattan when she vanished on Valentine's Day twenty seven years ago.
Speaker 2With the discovery of caarms remains along Ocean Parkway, investigators now believe that the killer or killers had been operating since at least nineteen ninety six, when she was first found in Fire Island.
More So, Fire Island was in Suffolk County, but her other remains were found in Nassau County, suggesting the killer may have been trying to confuse law enforcement.
Yet as baffling as all this sounds, there was at least some logic in the victimology, that being petite female sex workers, That was until police uncovered the next victim.
Speaker 12One male body was found among the ten.
Police also revealed that he may have been killed between five and ten years ago.
Speaker 3The unidentified Asian Male was estimated between the ages of seventeen and twenty three years old at the time of his debt.
Speaker 18When Asian Doe was first discovered on April fourth, twenty eleven, this person was colloquially known as Asian Male.
Speaker 2Sarah Wyman, an author and journalist, has been investigating Asian doe remains.
Is one of the cases most significant mysteries.
Speaker 18Biologically, they were a signe mail at birth, but Asian Doe was found with clothing that we would identify with women, like panties and abroad, so Asian Doe might have identified as trans.
Speaker 3He was wearing women's clothing, and I think that's significant.
Speaker 18Suffolk County thinks that Asian Doe may have been a sex worker in New York City.
Ultimately, there's still so much we don't know.
We don't know who their family members are.
We don't know if they came over from China, because it's believed that they were of Han Chinese descent, or if they were born in North America and ended up in New York.
Speaker 2Unlike any of the other victims found along Ocean Parkway, Asian Doe reportedly died from blunt for or trauma to the head.
At the time, detectives theorized that the differing mo suggested the killer might have felt duped and bloodgoned Asian Doe in a fit of rage, and while newly released information might suggest a different motive, one that we'll discuss in greater detail later, Asian Doe remains unidentified to this day.
Speaker 18We just don't know enough about who Asian Doe really was and what kind of life they led, So until we have that information, if we ever do, then all will have.
Speaker 2Is don't, Which brings us to the most tragic case of them all, involving two of the final victims on Ocean Parkway, each one found on either end of these hollow grounds.
As it bookends to a nightmare.
Speaker 14Monday morning, a police dog stumbled up remains just a mile and a half away from Jones Beach.
Speaker 15The case of has developed into a murder mystery, growing more ruesome by the day.
Speaker 2It's all been very startling.
In April twenty eleven, police would uncover the ninth sets of remains along Ocean Parkway, dubbed Jane Doe number three.
Like many of the other victims, she was found in a plastic bag, and like Karen Bergatta, she too had been discarded just over the Nassau County border.
While police had no idea who Jane Doe number three was, she still managed to reveal a shocking connection to another set of recently discovered remains.
Speaker 16Been revealed that one of the new victims is a young child wrapped in a blanket.
Speaker 3Investigators have discovered remains of a female toddler between the age of sixteen and thirty two months.
Speaker 12And another new clue, DNA now links the body of a toddler found in Suffolk County to the bones found seven miles away in nassauv It's believed they were mother and daughter.
Speaker 2The fact that a mother and child were found among the victims was more than just a shocking revelation.
For many, the killing of a child was the ultimate act of cruelty.
Some theorized these victims or possibly Lisk's wife and child, but others believe the toddler's involvement was nothing more than the tragic consequence of an illicit date gone awry.
Speaker 11The child's remains being found, what does that now.
Speaker 6Say, Well, if one of these women gets a phone call at two o'clock in the morning, It has an opportunity to make money and has a child she can't find a sitter for.
Speaker 7She might bring the.
Speaker 6Child with her to the encounter, and that may be the explanation for how the child ended up at a body dump site.
Speaker 2Many of the unidentified found along Ocean Parkway had been entered into a database called NamUs, which is used by law enforcement, medical examiners, and even amateur sluice to help identify these unknown victims.
But while police had entered the toddler in NamUs, for some reason, they hadn't entered the mother, Jane Doe number three, prompting us to reach out to Todd Matthews, a former head of NamUs, who agreed to help us review the database.
Speaker 5Suffolk County didn't link one of the other Jane does through DNA to this child.
Wouldn't the mother be tied to this baby dough somehow here.
Speaker 7I don't know of a reason why it wouldn't be in here.
And there's a non public side of names.
It's very different than this.
If I was a police officer or medical examiner, this screen is different.
And there's tools that they have that are investigating tools.
Speaker 2So can you give us any information if we turn the cameras off on the non public site.
Speaker 7It depends on what I say.
Speaker 13There, Okay, so guys, let's turn the cameras off.
Speaker 6So there she is.
Speaker 7Let's say dental head was not recovered DNA, it's there.
Speaker 2While law enforcement did have an active case record for the mother on the private side of NamUs, she wasn't being listed publicly.
A glaring on me.
That might be another reason why these two victims hadn't been identified.
Speaker 7The best nayakadect was made to look at the other case that's related and get the case entered into NamUs.
Speaker 2However, when Todd Matthews asked the Nassau County Medical Examiner's office to update NamUs with the mother's information, they made a shocking admission unknown to the public.
Suffolk Police had long since linked the mother's remains found on Ocean Parkway to a female torso found over twenty miles away a decade earlier.
It was a cold case that Rachel and I knew all too well, that of Peaches, Nasa Cunty Police says.
Speaker 9The partial remains were found at Hempstead Lake State Park in nineteen ninety seven in a plastic container.
Speaker 12She has been known as Peaches all these years because of her tattoo.
Speaker 2In June of nineteen ninety seven, a woman's torso was found inside a rubber maid container at a popular park in the middle of Long Island.
The unidentified victim was dubbed Peaches due to a distinct peach tattoo on her left breast.
While many of us had suspected Peaches could be an early victim of LISK, with the help of Todd Matthews, we had suddenly just gotten confirmation.
Speaker 8Nineteen years ago.
Here in Nassau County, a woman's torso long considered linked to the remains that have been found at Gilgo Beach, but now a federal registry confirms it.
Speaker 2Looking back, it's hard to say why police in Nassau never made this connection public, but considering the dysfunction of Suffolk County, the whole back wasn't surprising.
But Peach's official inclusion as an early list victim did lead to a number of revelations.
Notably, she extended the killer's geographical footprint, with Hempstead Park now becoming the westernmost dumb site on Long Island.
But The most important revelation was the one that eluded investigators until April twenty twenty five, when it was announced that the Gilgo Beach Task Force had finally solved the mystery that had tormented so many.
Speaker 9Police today announced that Peaches is Tanya Denise Jackson, a twenty six year old Army veteran and single mom originally from Alabama.
Her two year old daughter was Tatiana Marie Dikes.
Speaker 13Officials saying that they will continue to fight until there's justice in this case that has rained cold for so long.
Speaker 2For those of us who have watched the hunt for liscun full for decades, it's been a long road, made all the more frustrating knowing what we know now that back in twenty eleven, a witness had given Suffolk County detectives a tip that could have led to the killer's capture sooner, a clue that had been filed away and lost in time.
So then, how did Suffolk County catch Lisk released?
What's the official story?
It starts with an investigation that only begins in Earnest, after police Chief James Burke is arrested the man charged with replacing him, Timothy Cini, makes good on a promise to re engage the FBI.
Speaker 3Bringing the FBI to the table with all of its expertise and resources is a step in the right direction.
Speaker 2With the FBI's help, SENI refocused on their cell phone data analysis from twenty twelve.
Back then, agents had already identified an area where pings from four cell phone towers had overlapped in Massapequa Park.
And now with a newly secured court order per cell phone tower data dumps, the request that Chief Burke had previously denied, the FBI analysts started drilling into the data.
Speaker 15There was an FBI phone expert who drove through the Massapequa Park area and establish a map of the cell phone coverage, and he showed a small area in this neighborhood that not only was the killer using a phone in that area, but one of the victims had used her phone as well.
Speaker 2The investigators had now whittled down their area of interest into that geographic box we mentioned previously, a polygon shaped grid of just several hundred homes in Massapequa Park where they believed the killer lived.
Speaker 18Now you can say we have this small area that we know the killer is connected to.
We have this small area that we know the killer is connected to.
Speaker 2How many people actually fit this profile?
Now, with their box in hand, if investigators were confident, they would eventually find that one individual among thousands, that mysterious commuter who lived in Massapequa Park and worked in midtown Manhattan.
But it would still take years and the creation of a task force before Suffolk County could finally leave its chaotic pass behind.
Speaker 15These commission Rodney Harrison today announcing a new task force made up of investigators from the FBI, the New York State Police, as well as the Saffa County Police, Sheriff's Office, and a DA's office.
Speaker 2In March of twenty twenty two, the New York State Police investigator Cask with reviewing old case files, would come across a statement taken by detectives back in twenty eleven from amberlind Costello's roommate, Dave Shaller.
But what caught her attention was Shaller's mention of a man who turned violent during an in call at his home, a huge ogre of a man who drove a first generation Chevy Avalanche.
Speaker 14Detectives then looked to see who in that area owned a distinctive vehicle allegedly tied to one of the murders, a Chevrolet Avalanche.
Speaker 2Using a comprehensive vehicle database, the state investigator quickly found a first generation avalanche linked to a resident living in Massapequa Park, a man named rex Huerman whose home was located within their sophisticated box.
Pulling up human's picture and seeing his physical description six' four and weighing two hundred and seventy five, pounds it was plainly obvious that this was the Ogre Dave shaller was talking.
Speaker 7About was there a aha moment when all of a sudden his name came?
Speaker 9Up once we were able to attach the.
Speaker 6Avalanche inside of that massive equal, Box sir Rex, huerman that was a moment where we, Said, okay there's something.
Speaker 2Here but it was when detectives learned that Rex huerman had spent the last thirty six years commuting to his office in Midtown, manhattan that The Gilgo Beach Task force knew they had found their, man a real life boogeyman who had evaded capture for over twenty seven, YEARS a cruel and sadistic monster known as The Long island serial.
Speaker 7Killer Frankie news to bring.
You police have made an arrest in The Gilgo beach murders.
Speaker 3Investigation here With Miguilbo Task force to announce the indictment Of Rex.
Speaker 17Yureman breaking news out Of New, york the arrest of a suspected serial.
Speaker 3Killer these young women were found In december of twenty ten by The Suffolk.
Speaker 15County Police, department and then there was, nothing absolutely.
Speaker 3Nothing for the next thirteen.
Speaker 15Years their cases went unsolved until.
Speaker 2Today handcuffs and flank by.
Speaker 14Authorities Rex hureman take it to A Long island courthouse in a case that has confounded investigators for more than a.
Decade german Next sherman is a demon that walks among.
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