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In this episode, we'll be talking about these victims in very graphic terms.

These details are crucial for proving the mistakes and missed opportunities that could have led to the perpetrators capture sooner.

These individuals deserve to be remembered not by the details of their deaths, but by the fullness of their lives.

They are Shannon Gilbert Green, Brainerd Barnes, Megan Waterman, Melissa Bartholome ambuy, Lyn Costello, Jessica Taylor, Valerie mac Karen Bergatta Asian Doe, Tanya, Denise Jackson and Tatiana Marie Dykes.

When she first disappeared, I called all the precincts to find out if she had been arrested, because she didn't call me.

After a couple of days, I didn't find anybody that I had no deed, so I really I didn't think she was dead.

Finally someone had called me.

They had said, have you spoken to Amber?

And I'm like no, why.

They're like, are you watching the news?

I'm like, why is she arrested?

Is she on the news?

They're like him, they just pulled up four bodies off Gilgoa Beach and they think his girls were from Craigslist.

And right then I knew one of those girls.

I knew, like I knew.

The voice you're hearing is that of Kim over Street.

Her sister was Amber lingk Costello, one of the four women found wrapped in burlap on Gilgo Beach.

We interviewed Kim back in twenty fourteen in the same hotel where victim Megan Waterman was last seen.

This wasn't by chance.

A hotel was still popular with sex workers, and that included Amber's sister Kim, whose life had spiraled into darkness.

Where I'm at right now, has just thought everything to do with what happened to Amber.

I walked away from friends and family that I could call.

I've just given up my will.

I feel like I've lost my wife.

I just.

I have no reason to do anything, you know, I just do whatever I have to at that moment.

You know, I live moment at the moment right now.

I just don't know if I will to ever be able to come back from this.

You know, it's hard.

Like many of the families whose loved ones had been taken by lisk Kim had given up all hope of law enforcement ever solving Amber's case.

I don't think that they really have a lot.

They have a bag of bones in one hand and some hope in the other.

So your sister disappears, how quickly do you continue to keep working after?

Immediately immediately he didn't stop.

No.

I quit my job and did it all day and all night, hoping I would come across the guy who did it.

You know, I was hoping he'd still be in the area.

I've been trying to solve it.

I've took guys information down, tag numbers, if I could get anything off, the driver's license you know, I did.

Whatever I could, So what do you want?

I just want to know who kunt my sister.

I just want to see from myself and the Two Eyes.

And is that going to help you?

Yeah?

I think it will.

And so if we were to go find him, where should we do?

Good question on that page advertisements meant for women, same way he finds us.

Do you think this guy scans back page?

Absolutely every day?

Every day?

And that's where we came in to use our series, not just to tell a story, but to change it.

We wanted to provoke Lisk, to get a reaction and maybe a clue, which led us to posting messages on the escort site backpage that we filmed for.

Our series The Killing Season.

Knowing that List liked to Peru's backpage and taunt his victims, we decided it was time to look in his hunting ground.

Filmmakers seek escort for documentary.

We're looking forts who think they may have come across the Long Island zero Killer.

We have information as to whom we believe this individual is and are looking for someone to confirm based upon specific details.

We knew that List would be looking at backpage.

He knew he would see this ad.

All right, you ready to do this?

Yeah?

I'm Josh Semen and this is monster hunting, the Long Island's serial killer.

No.

New York's number one news channel seven NIE witness.

Meetings of six back today after an arrest and the infamous Gilgo Beach murders, fifty nine year old Rex Heureman is now charged in the.

Murders of three women.

Right.

Heureman was arrested last night near his office in Midtown Manhattan.

Tonight.

He being held without fail.

Rex hunted and haunted unsuspecting young women over three decades.

Whether it was the earliest days of the Gilgo Beach investigation for moments after the arrest of the alleged Long Island serial killer Rex Hureman.

Throughout the media's coverage, we'd often heard the inevitable serial killer as hunter analogy.

It's an all too common trope that goes back to the classic short story The Most Dangerous Game in the nineteen thirty two film that.

Followed Here on My Island, I Hunt the Most Dangerous Game.

The storytells of a Russian nobleman who hunts humans for sport, claiming his prey for nothing more than scum of the earth.

But in the aftermath of Rex's arrest, what was suddenly apparent was how closely this dark tale of human behavior and power dynamics mirrored the list case.

His intent was to hunt them down and to bring them under his.

Controlman was an alleged predator who terrorized and killed sex workers for his gratification.

He liked the idea of having a prize stalking prey, stalking prey and winning.

He liked to win.

From the very beginning, we wanted to turn the tables on this serial killer as hunter theme.

We wanted to shift the dynamic and take that power away, and so in our retelling, the hunter would become the hunt dead.

Another common trope, but one that gave these victims and their families at least something in lieu of the justice that they'd been denied, which is what led Rachel and I to that post on backpage.

Do you think he's actually gonna like contact us?

We're basically saying we have information as to who he is and we're just looking for somebody to confirm the details.

I feel like nothing's gonna come on this, But then a little bit.

Of me is like, but what if it does.

While we didn't know if Lisk would find some veiled way of reaching out to find out how much we knew, one cryptic response did catch our attention, from an anonymous source claiming to know why List had seemingly gone cold, along with a number for us to call.

I heard who the lisk is slash was and it kind of makes sense that he hasn't killed a while.

Which call.

Hey, we're the domakers doing the Long Island Serial killer documentary.

He saw a post on back page.

Yeah, I had heard that the gentleman that owned Atlanta.

Three he was back and that's when he.

Had committed suicide.

And how did you hear that?

I worked with the police department.

I had heard back who the DA's office was questioning before forrest somebody on it, and that's one a standard set.

The caller was repeating a rumor claiming a Suffolk County business man who committed suicide just after the bodies were found was actually Lisk, a rumor that, conveniently for the DIA's office escaped go to to dead Man.

But in the days after Huerman's rest, some viewers thought the caller might have been Rex himself.

We're learning that Rex Huerman may have called a documentary filmmaker seven years ago in a sick effort at pinning the crime spree on somebody else.

Audio expert Anthony Nelson analyzed the recordings for Inside Edition.

Was it him who made that phone call?

In my opinion, it sounds exactly like him.

Whether that was Rex really calling us, it's hard to say, and what we're leery of Inside Editions findings.

One thing we know is true, Rex Hureerman was in fact scouring news reports, documentaries and websites trying to figure out exactly who knew what.

It's a cat and mouse game with Lisk that stretches all the way back to our twenty fifteen interview with former Suffolk County Police Chief Richard Dormer.

You think he probably controls these sites.

That talk about him.

Yes, I believe that the media thing is big.

He's going to watch this show when you advertise this thing, He's going to zero win on this.

If there was even a remote chance that our backpage post gave Lisk the littlest tinge of fear than in our minds.

It was worth it.

It's why we originally wanted to call our show the hunting season, and now ten years later, it seems this hunting theme was the answer all along, the clue to understanding why Liss chose Ocean Parkway, or what is now known is the largest crime scene in Suffolk County history.

Ocean Parkway stretches along this barrier island for fifteen miles.

It is a terribly desolate area, perhaps the most desolate in the New York City metropolitan area.

It's so dark out here that if a killer were to pull over the side of the road, you'd be able to operate in real secrecy.

This is what he see, absolutely nothing.

Ocean Parkway runs the length of Jones Beach Island, with the Atlantic Ocean on one side and the Great Jones Bay on the other.

In some sections, it's just a few hundred feet wide, no homes, no street lights.

Pulling onto its grassy shoulder, you could quickly step into brush so thick you couldn't see a body unless you were right on top of it.

You could also spot the headlights of an approaching car from miles away.

In short, the perfect place to hide a body.

But how did the killer know this remote spot so intimately and what did it have to do with burlap.

The remains of four missing women were found here, bound in burlap and dumped.

Maureen, Melissa, Meghan and Amber the first four women found on Gilgo Beach in December of twenty ten.

Unlike many of the other victims who were dis membered, they were found intact.

But more importantly, a clue leaked to the press revealed that they were wrapped in a unique type of burlap.

Again's Foreign Police Chief Richard Dormer.

Disinformation went out there about what they were wrapped in, and we never verified that.

I will verify the were wrapped rapped, but what they were wrapped in, we never revealed that.

But somebody, a source told the media, and of course anybody that had anything to do with burlap sacks was a suspect.

Those burlap sacks found in the scene.

Burlap isn't common these days.

Who would use burlap in that area well, clamdiggers.

Off camera, Dormer told us there was something printed on the outside of the burlap.

Leading Rachel and I on our own wild goose chase.

When that focused on landscapers.

Do you sell burlap sacked?

No, don't sell burlap sacked?

There was some question about the bodies were wrapped in laugh Oh.

When we heard about this, even convicted serial killer and former landscaper himself, Joel Rifkin had an opinion.

He has some theories about who this person might be.

Someone who's local, someone who's a fisherman, someone who has access to these burlap bags that some of the bodies are founded.

Ironically, the answer to the burlap mystery and who list might be was buried on our own footage in one of the first scenes that Rachel and I ever filmed as we explored the frenzy of online sluice theorizing about the case.

So this is the site that popped up immediately after they found the bodies.

Long Island serial killer dot Com.

A lot of people had a lot of theories and so they came to this site.

Personally, I feel it's a textbook case of a sexually statistic serial killer who has been killing since at least nineteen ninety five.

There's this guy, Inspector Gadget.

I've narrowed down my search to two members of the Duck Hunting Club.

While Inspector Gadget was looking at the wrong suspects, his theory that Li was a duck hunter was right on target.

In fact, within days of Human's arrest, it was reported that not only did Rex have a huge collection of guns, but he was an avid hunter with a special affinity for duck hunting.

Police say they found a walk in vault with guns in the basement of Gilgo Beach.

Suspect Rex h weremen.

He had a duck hunting boat, he had a duck hunting license, He had duck hunting guns.

Going out shooting hunting, that was his passion.

We now know that Rex held over ninety two gun permits and had even renewed his New York hunting license in twenty twelve, two years after the bodies were found.

As for his favorite hunting spot, the isolated Inlet Bays off Ocean Parkway, corroborated by a photo of Rex smiling in waste deep waters surrounded by decoy ducks, just a few hundred yards from where Asian Doe was found.

And finally, the tragic clue that connected all the.

Dots here in.

Authorities now say that some of the victims were wrapped in a burlap that hunters often use was chilling.

The burlop was camouflage burlap used for duckblines hunting, so obviously it was used to hide the bodies.

Learning that such burlap was used by duck hunters, it all seems so painfully obvious.

Ocean Parkway was more than just this killer's dumping grounds.

It was also his hunting grounds.

And the two weren't extricably linked.

So GB four are all carefully laid out.

That's the same strip of road.

They are carefully wrapped into burlap.

This is collection behaviors.

This guy is a collector.

While filming The Killing Season, we met Peter Brent, a former submarine technician and author of maritime thrillers.

But Peter's passion with developing serial killer profiles, several of which have been cited by law enforcement.

In twenty fifteen, Peter published a profile of Lisk that was uniquely insightful for understanding why this killer chose Ocean Parkway.

Sound can influence as a mindset of any person.

You sit somewhere and you listen to music, and it can change your mood.

The same is for psychopaths, only they feel it different than normal people.

They're emotionally distanced.

For them, it's more this almost heterogenous sound.

It's like the ocean, like waves rolling on the beach.

It's the same kind of noise.

It's almost always the same, but it has little variations in it.

It's like wind over the forest, a little bit like tourtain.

Lullabies works on normal people like it works on them.

It works calming, it, it works comforting.

Is that is what they like?

Especially?

This is a typical dump area of psychopathic serial.

Killer when it comes to criminal profiling, which at best is an educated guess, and it works no better than fortune telling.

Peter Brent's take on Lisk was bizarrely prescient.

Tell me a little bit about what this behavior means about him.

This guy is not your garden variety sexual predator.

Look at the dump side.

Normally, if a sexual predator builds cluster dumb sides, he does it to revisit, to relift something sexual.

So they usually don't build dumb sides next to a road.

This guy had no sexual intention.

He has intention to revisit for him.

It's enough to drive by to know the victims us there.

He is a hunter, deer hunter.

You have ever been in the house of a hunter.

You see all those animal heads staring from the wall down at you.

This guy did exactly.

It's the same thing.

Along that road.

He parked his victims.

In nice equal distances to each other, like a trophy guard, always reminding him of his achievement.

And considering what we now know about the alleged reck Hureman, it seems that another one of his trophy gardens was Manorville.

Canine units and squad cars descending on the thick rush of Manorville, New York.

It was two decades ago when human remains of two women were found here and at Kilgo Beach, later identified as Jessica Taylor and Valerie mac.

Some twenty miles north of Gilgo Beach is Manorville, sitting on the edge of Long Island's last remaining wilderness.

It's still a popular destination for hunters, which maybe one reason why November of two thousand, Valerie max remains had been placed on a well worn trail well during the opening weeks of pheasant season, only to be found by three hunters.

But there were still other clues to corroborate this tragic connection.

Two law enforcement sources told me Jessica Taylor and Valerie Mack, found in Manerville were tied up in a very cruel way, one saying their leg area was bound in a ball.

The second source said the knees were brought into their chest area.

You'd have to be a hunter to do something like that.

But could there be an even more sinister reason as to why Liss chose Manorville.

It's a question worth asking because of that strange word that keeps popping up in this case coincidence.

You see, Rex wasn't the only hunter in Long Island who at the time was killing sex workers, which by now isn't so surprising, except that this hunter lived less than three miles from where the bodies of Jessica Taylor and Valerie Mack were found, right in the heart of Manorville.

What of Da Tom's Modis's.

Forty eight year old John Bitroff of Manorvilla is accused of killing two prostitutes in the nineties.

Bitrol and Avid Hunter.

He was twenty seven at the time and has since lived here in Manerville, surrounded by woods and trusting neighbors.

In twenty fourteen, John Bitroff, a licensed hunter and carpenter, was arrested after DNA taken from his brother on an unrelated charge was uploaded into the CODIS database.

That database revealed that John Bitroff's DNA had been found on two murdered women in the nineties, Rita Tangretti, aged thirty one, and Colleen mcnamie, aged twenty.

Tangretti's nude body was found in a wooded area in East Patchog A few months later, McNamee's body was discovered in the woods and Shirley, two young women murdered twenty years ago, both of them found in wooded.

Areas in the same naked pose.

There is a third murder case, twenty eight year old Sandra Costilla, murdered back in nineteen nine ninety three under very similar circumstances.

Three women murdered in just three months, first red to Tankretti on November two, nineteen ninety three, then only three weeks later Santra Castilla, then ten weeks later Colleen McNamee.

And while bit Trov's DNA wasn't found on Castia, the strange timing and similar circumstances of her murder led Suffolk County DA Tom Spoda to believe that Bitroff was responsible.

It's remarkable that we have this wonderful thing called DNA because there can't be any other person.

I also wanted to mention that we have a third woman.

Her manner of death is very similar to the two other women.

Sandra Castilla at the third victim.

When news first broke in the middle of the Gilgo Beach investigation that John Bitroff had been charged with killing two sex workers, many assumed he must be Lisk.

Whoever, the DA's office disagreed Bitroff's modus operandi that of a Blitz style bluzzeoning didn't match the list victims.

We're either dismembered or wrapped in burlap.

Of course, mo o's can change, but none of Bitroff's victims were also found on Ocean Parkway.

Yet, just after his conviction, DA spoda's office would conveniently change its mind about a possible connection to Lisk.

Now, three years after the district attorney said there was no link between Bittroff and the Gilgo Beach case, we're getting a different story.

Quote there are victims at Gilgo that may be attributed to mister Bittroff, and that investigation is continuing.

Well, we didn't know in twenty sixteen if the DA's office was trying to pin any Gilgo victims on Bitroff.

It wasn't the first time he'd heard rumors of Da Spoda trying to escapegoat another.

Yet little did we know that Bitroff saga would return in June of twenty twenty four, when the Gilgo Beach Tasked Force made a stunning announcement.

We're here today to announce additional charges in the case against Rex Yuerman in the nineteen ninety three murder of Sondra Castilla.

On November twenty two, individuals, while hunting in that wooded area of north Sea discovered her body.

We're turning out to this major update in the case of the suspected Gilgo Beach serial killer.

In a shocking turn of events, rex Huerman has been indicted in the November nineteen ninety three death of Sandra Costilla.

John Bittrolf has been long suspected in her death but never charged.

Prosecutors are saying they believe that around nineteen ninety three rex Huerman began this killing spray, and that is the really big news out of what we're hearing today.

With this shocking twist in the murder of Sondra Castillo, we started digging back into thirty year old newspaper reports looking for some clue that could link back to Rex.

What we do know is that Sondra's life took her from Trinidad to Hawaii before she married and settled in New York.

Police described Sondra as a quote trifter living in transient lifestyle before two hunters discovered her body in nineteen ninety three behind the now defunct fish cove in in the North Sea area of Long Island.

These allegations are stunning, and they dramatically expand this now sprawling murder investigation.

For the briefest moment, we questioned if these new prosecutors we're trying to pin Castillo's murder on Huerman in hopes of clearing old cold cases.

That was until we heard the evidence.

There were two hairs from a Sandra Castilla's remains.

One was a male hair.

That same male hair was four point three four seven times ten to three hundred and thirty two power more likely to I've come from a person genetically identical to Rex Yuerman, then from an unrelated individual.

A hair discovered on Sandra had matched the DNA of Rex Yuerman.

Moreso, never released.

Details of the crime now calls into question attempts by former Da Spoda to link Sondra's murder with those of Bitrop's other victims.

The District Attorney's office says Sandra Costia was mutilated.

She had a lot of wounds on her body that don't exist at the other two crime scenes.

Additionally, John Bitrof's two victims were found only nine miles apart, while Sondra Castilla was found over thirty miles away in the woods behind a shuttered holiday camp known as the Fish Cove In.

Ironically, the abandoned lodge became the setting for the nineteen eighty slasher film Madman, a low budget retelling of the cropsy legend that featured a hulking killer.

My story deals with.

A man who used to live in that old, dilapidated house behind those trees.

Untain nights, when the moon is full, he's out there stalking in the woods.

What's now clear is that a real life Madman named Rex Yuerman allegedly killed Sondra, which only further complicates this case.

Sondra was not only the earliest known victim, but the only victim whose remains were not found on Ocean Parkway.

She was also identified via fingerprints, meaning the killer hadn't tried to prevent her identification.

While his next four victims, Valerie mack Kanya Denise Jackson, Karen Bergatta, and Jessica Taylor had all been dismembered.

Sandra Costilla is surprising and the reason for that is she was found in nineteen ninety three, that is before anyone suspected that Long Island serial killer was at work here.

But that is what prosecutors are saying.

So are we seeing a killer evolved, changing his modus operandi as he starts to employ forensic countermeasures to prevent his victims from being identified through fingerprints or dental records?

More so, are we seeing a killer developing his signature, his unique imprint as he places every other victim after Sandra Castia on Ocean Parkway in the creation of his trophy garden.

And why is any of this important?

Because these are the questions investigators are asking as they try to untangle a case that's been bungled from the start.

Right here, And he will say, just because Tom Spoda many years ago said he thought those cases were so similar, does not mean he shares the same opinion.

And then there's the timing of rex Huremann's crimes as it relates to Bitroff's crimes and the confusion it created.

Back in twenty fourteen.

Authorities believe Bitroff may be responsible for the murder of Sandra Castilla, which happened in between the deaths of Tangretti A Nacanamy.

And for those of us who have been following the list case, this timing was more than just strange, it was downright mystifying.

Let me explain.

In November of nineteen ninety three, John Bitroff kills his first victim, Then just two and a half weeks later, Rex Huerman allegedly kills his first victim, Sondra Castilla.

Then two weeks later Bitroff kills again.

So are we to believe that rex Huerman allegedly starts his decades long killing spree right in the middle of bit Roff's two murders, and then their timelines intersect again nearly a decade later, when Hureman discards two victims in Manerville, just miles from Bitroff's home.

This is somehow all completely random or even more coincidences, and can one case really have this many coincidences?

Well, I think the biggest bomb that dropped was the Sondra still a case.

We had Reda ten Gritty and Colleen mcnamie and then find out it was Rex that.

Was a shogun.

Hureman's strange connection with John bit Roff is an issue I brought up with Joe jack Alone, former commander of the Bronx Cold Case Squad and one of his recent PODCAS casts.

For years, Joe and I have been delving into the enigmas of the list case.

We know how Rex knows the Gilgo Beach area because of the duck hunting, but how does he know manner?

This is all about hunting and victims and kind of some weird hunting psychopathy.

Valerie mac Andjessica Daylor are found by hunters.

Who else was a hunter?

Pit Roff was a hunter known to you know, one hunter who lived in the area.

But then is it a coincidence that he dropped these bodies less than a mile and a half away from where pitt Roff lived.

I've said this a thousand times.

From the investigative standpoint, I don't believe in coincidences.

I was hoping that somebody in the media, and you know what, they can take this and run with it, would start searching the sea if there was a connection anywhere between these two guys.

And you kind of led me into this one because you just can't ignore the fact that hunters were involved in two of those three cases out there, and you have all these gun clubs out there also, and there's also a Upper Peconic River Fishing Access not too far from where this was on Mill Road.

This hunting thing is going to come back.

There's something where.

There is a hunter's type of relationship somewhere here.

While we didn't know exactly how Bitrock fit into the equation, it seems in trying to answer one question, Joe and I stumbled upon another.

Why Manorville.

Joe had mentioned the name Upper Peconic Fishing Access, which we would quickly discover was right next to the Peconic River Sportsmen's Club.

Just a few days after our conversation was revealed that Rex was not only a volunteer at the gun club, but he often went there on weekends to hone his hunting skills.

Gun Club records show Huerman took part in public shooting competitions and courses in the early two thousands in Manorville at the Paconic River Sportsmen's Club.

In the end, the reason why Lisk chose Manerville might be so simple it's terrifying.

The Piconic River Sportsman's Club was only two and a half miles away from where Jessica Taylor's body was found.

In fact, it was on the same road, no turns, no complicated driving required.

But it was only when we went to Manerville did it all make sense.

Driving along Hawsley Manor Road, we were shocked just how clearly we could see that exact same spot where Jessicataylor's remains have been so carefully placed out in the open, a spot Rex made sure he could see so easily from behind the wheel of his Chevy Avalanche as he drove by on any given weekend on his way to indulge his other passion guns and to teach his skills to the next generation.

Structor Ira Rutderman remembers Rex Yewerman as an high powered gun enthusiast who regularly volunteered as a coach at the Sportsman's Club.

And then there was sonra Castilla, just four miles away from and where she was found was the Southampton Pistol Rifle Range, where it's been said that Rex also went to practice his unique skill set.

Rex loved hunting, and he loved guns.

He liked to shock people.

He was interested in power.

Games, whether this theme of hunting or gun clubs or playing the most dangerous game, Whether any of this is why the alleged Rex Hureman chose Ocean Parkway or Manorville.

Unless we get those answers from Rex himself, all we're doing is speculating.

It's all any of us are doing, whether it be the dozens of podcasts or documentaries, and who doesn't like to speculate, To play amateur profiler, to see if you can figure out what the killer might be thinking, until that moment when you do know, when you finally learn what horror goes on inside.

That monster's head.

As the old saying goes, be careful what you wish for.

I need to give you a war about our next story.

Now what you are about to hear is extremely graphic, and it.

Brings us inside the mind of an alleged serial killer.

Breaking news about the horrifying notes prosecutors say they found on the dilgo beat serial killer's computer.

We do want to warn you these details are disturbing.

Ever since Rex's arrest, the DA's office has been releasing court documents to help bolster their case, documents that also filled in the blanks for our own investigation.

But we are still missing that one piece, you might call it the how how did this monster do what he did?

And how could he get away with it for so long?

And then it came the answer no one was expecting, the one piece of evidence that tied it all together, the one I wish I never saw.

And welcome to this edition of ROCAL.

I'm your host, Joseph Jackalone.

Josh Zimdia is with USSH.

Thanks for coming up, Thanks.

For having me important today.

On June six, twenty twenty four, I joined Joe jackaloone and retired Detective David Sarney on a live stream as the Suffolk County DA was set to reveal new charges and release new evidence against Rex Hureman.

Joe, you heard that what we're going to find out is not pretty.

Yeah, the word that actually was used was bad.

Now, when you hear the term bad from law enforcement, you're talking about really terrible things.

That happened to a human being be prepared.

We are going to watch the press are live.

Okay, we got it.

Hang on, We're here today to announce additional charges.

The task force discovered a Microsoft word document covered from the home of the defendant, entitled HK two thousand and two.

As Tierney continued, the DA's office posted the indictment.

One piece of evidence that immediately caught our attention, one that went far beyond the hors than any one of us, even seasoned detectives, had ever seen.

Now there it is.

There's the indictment, newly discovered digital evidence.

In twenty twenty three, the Giggle task Force sees the HOD drive from the basement.

The task force found the Microsoft word document entitled HK two thousand and two Planning Documents.

Guys, look at.

The planning document delivers a three category section that heading pre prep, prep and post events.

Bon drain cleaner, body wipes, tarts.

Holy, this is just unbelievable.

This is this is photo photos.

Watch body inside in all cavities, removes trace, DNA, remove ID marks, tattoos, move head and hands.

So the post event, let's talk look at that destroy file, change tires, right, he's worried about leaving tire tracks, Jesus burned gloves, dispose of picks, a story sets next time, recondumpster locations, misleaders.

What could mislead a the investigations.

For problems In any investigation, there's always that moment when the rubicon is crossed, when what was once imagined becomes reality.

You know.

Unfortunately the family members are going to hear what happened.

So it's it's really just really tragic.

This is a deviant, evil person.

He was thorough in his attempt to hide the murdency was committing.

This is a dural serial killer.

He had it all planned.

He had it prepared.

Rex had planned everything step by step by step.

He had his whole methodology on what he did, thinking of every contingencyprints.

In gloves, He remembered that about fingerprints being inside gloves.

Of every detail, wifes and towels.

No wonder he lasted over thirty years.

Yeah, why did Rex allegedly get away with so much for so long?

Because, as we were about to find.

Out, this is the stuff what nightmares are made of.

That was the plan from the start.

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Interns Arnetta Fontinat, Shelby Hanson, Alec Walker and Fox Williams.

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Special thanks to the Team United Talent Agency, the Nord Group, Brad Abramson, Todd Leebowitz, Rich Perrillo and Jigsaw Productions, Rachel Mills, Zachary Mortensen, Jen Beegle, David Baker, Joe jack Alone, and Evan Krause, as well as the teams at iHeart Podcasts and Tenderfoot TV.

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