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I found it.
Have you ever said that?
Have you ever exclaimed that phrase?
I found it, shouted it to somebody nearby or far away.
You were so excited, I found it.
Today, our Chris Fabry live.
We are going into the archives for a program we did a couple of years ago that I found the other day.
I was thinking we ought to do this program and talk about the things we found, things uncovered, that which was lost, that has been found.
And all of these lead to the truth that God is on the hunt for you and me.
He wants us to be found, to be rescued, to be redeemed, restored.
If that sounds interesting to you, stay with us, because there are people who called a couple of years ago and shared their excitement.
So if you hear a phone number today or a dated reference, disregard that.
We are not live with you today, but you can go to the website.
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It could be an old baseball glove you wrote your name on.
It could be your long lost red tricycle, or Barbie could be a cassette tape you found that had a recording you were looking for for decades.
Maybe a picture, a ring, a wallet, a coin, a pet, or your homework.
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I saw this story the other day, and maybe this is what kind of sparked the idea of re-airing the program you're about to hear.
This is reported by the Good News Network.
A Ford Motor Company employee was reunited with a wallet he lost ten years ago in Minnesota.
Mechanic Chad Volk.
And that's the German word Volk for for people.
That's where we get Volkswagen.
Chad Volk was replacing the the cooling fan on a 2015 Ford Edge when something that needed to snap in place wouldn't.
I messed around a little bit and then pulled it back out, and the wallet was sitting on a little ledge where it needed to snap down, he told CBS news.
I pulled the wallet out and that's what it was.
Inside, the brown trifold was a Michigan driver's license, $15 a a faded lottery ticket, $275 in Cabela's gift cards, and a Ford employee ID, which takes us back to 2014.
And Richard Guildford, who was working on the Ford Edge.
He was wearing sweatpants, so he had his wallet in his shirt pocket, and that's the last place he saw it.
The car was shipped to and sold in Arizona, then resold in Minnesota.
151,000 miles later and it arrived.
Arrived at Volks Auto Bay, where the mechanic found it and looked him up on Facebook.
Is this your wallet?
First thing I said was, did you find it in a car?
He found it.
The reason I did this program originally was because I had seen a post by Doctor William Lane Craig, professor, author, speaker.
You know him?
I saw his post.
I reached out to him.
And I want you to hear the passion in his voice when he tells this story.
He gets over the moon about finding a book.
Here's the story from Doctor William Lane Craig.
S2Well, just a month or so before I graduated from Wheaton College back in 1971, I saw on a discount table at the college bookstore a copy of Stuart Hackett's book, The Resurrection of Theism.
I had heard about this book but never seen it, and I bought a copy of it.
at that time.
Later that summer, after graduating, I read Hackett's book and it bowled me over.
You see, during my Wheaton education, my theology professors had told me that there are no good arguments for the existence of God.
Um, that you just have to presuppose implausible to me, I thought, surely these highly educated men knew much more than I did.
And so when they said there are no good arguments for God's existence, they must be right.
And then, reading Hackett's book, I found him defending these arguments for the existence of God and refuting every possible objection you could conceive of to them.
And that book literally changed my life.
Chris, I know sometimes we use that phrase flippantly, but it it reoriented my life.
I said, I have got to settle my mind about this argument.
And so I went off to do master's degree work in philosophy and then to pursue a doctorate in philosophy at the University of Birmingham, England, in which I examined Hackett's central argument in detail and published three books, uh, in defense of it.
As a result of that study, and, uh, ever since then, my name has become associated with this central argument of Stuart Hackett's book, which is called The Kalam Cosmological Argument.
Wow.
S1Do you remember how much you paid for it on that discount table?
S2No, I really don't.
Um, it was out of print.
Uh, and so it was going for a song.
S1Okay, so this book made a big difference in your life, and then you lost track of it.
Did you think that somebody had borrowed it and hadn't returned it.
S2Yeah, I tried to loan out my books to folks, and I thought, I've loaned this out to someone and they forgot to return it.
And I wracked my brain to think who this could be, and I couldn't think of anybody.
And so I was deeply perplexed.
I thought, I've lost this original first edition of Hackett's book that so changed my life.
And Stew Hackett now has passed on, gone to be with the Lord.
So losing this memento of my friend and teacher and colleague was a deep loss for me that I really regretted and missed it for many years.
And then just this week, just a couple days ago, I was perusing my bookshelves looking for a book by J.P.
Moreland.
And as I did so, I glimpsed a sliver of Hackett's book, hiding behind a wooden upright on the corner of my bookshelf, where it was tucked back in and couldn't be seen, and I couldn't believe my eyes.
I pulled it out and I thought, this is it.
I've still got it.
And so it made my day.
S1I love the passion.
I love the passion that you now.
Now the other thing that you should know is this was a book that was published by Moody Publishers, right?
S2That's right.
It was a book published by Moody Press in 1957.
And, uh, because it didn't fit with the usual books from Moody Press at that time, it just fell into oblivion.
But I honestly think that if people had taken cognizance of this book, The Revolution in Christian Philosophy that followed the work of Alvin Plantinga as God and Other Minds in 1967 would have occurred ten years earlier as a result of Hackett's book.
S1Wow.
So this was more than than just a book to you?
This was something that when you held it in your hands, we'll describe that.
When you finally held that again in your hands, what did you feel?
S2I mean, this is the book that laid out the argument for God's existence, with which my name has now become so intimately associated, the Kalam cosmological argument.
And so, uh, it's just a wonderful souvenir.
And as I say, since Stu, uh, Hackett, who was my teacher at Wheaton and then my colleague at Trinity Evangelical Divinity School, has now passed on and gone to be with the Lord, it makes it especially meaningful.
Um, and inside the book, pressed in between the leaves of the book, is a napkin from my and Jan's wedding in 1972.
And so that makes it even more meaningful, if you can imagine.
S1Yeah.
The connection there.
So did you who did you run to to show this treasure that you just found?
S2Well, Jan, of course I, I had to share it with her.
S1And you shared it with us today.
Thank you for for posting that on on Facebook.
I don't know if you knew what an effect it would have on.
And I don't know if anybody else saw that, but it just when I saw that, I could see the joy and the connection that you had with the past when you found it.
S2Yeah.
I never expected to hear from you, Chris, in response to that, but I'm glad you did call.
S1Did you hear the passion in his voice because of there was a story behind it.
Now, I don't you don't have to have, you know, the thing that you found doesn't have to be that deeply personal and life changing.
You know it.
And maybe you're saying mine is not that important.
No, no, no it is, if you could.
But you have to get to that.
I found it.
If you can get to that, I found it like Sally.
Listen to what Sally said.
And this is not even her.
She said, I just spoke with a man who lost his wedding ring 57 years ago.
For 57 years, his wedding ring has been lost.
Some workmen were weeding around his shrubs last month and they found it, I found it.
So that's our topic today at the radio backyard fence.
Nothing earth shattering in this discussion, but here is what I've come to discover.
It's the ordinary everyday.
I found it and the stories we share with each other.
The vulnerability we exhibit as we allow others into our lives.
I can't tell you how many times I've heard people say when your guest said this about their struggle, or when that caller told the story about the mistake they made or the difficult situation they were going through.
It gave me a little hope, and I think that's the best thing we can do here at the Radio Backyard Fence.
We share the hope and we share the joy, and we share the delight we have in the middle of the pain and the heartache and the struggle and that thing we lost that has been found.
That's what we're going to do.
I think you're going to be encouraged straight ahead.
Our program is recorded, so don't call us.
Do go to the website, Chris Paul and stay with us on an I found it Friday right here on Moody Radio.
Maybe you're listening today and you're looking for something you're looking hard for, something.
You haven't been able to find it.
Find it.
I'm hoping that these stories are going to give you a little encouragement.
Don't you give up.
I found it today at the radio backyard fence.
Let's go to Jasper, Alabama and talk with.
I'm going to try.
Is it Charletta or is it Charlene?
Charletta?
Charlita.
S3It's charlita.
S1Oh, it's like Charlie, but Lita.
Charlita.
Excellent.
S3Right, exactly.
S1How'd you get that name?
Charlita.
S3Well, uh, the Charles part was my grandfather on my dad's side.
And the the last part, my mother's name was Anita.
S1Ah.
S3That's great.
It's a mash up.
S1Did you.
Did you know your grandfather?
S3I did not know that when he died.
When my father was about six years old.
S1Okay.
You heard stories about him?
S3Uh, a few.
Not a whole lot, though.
S1Yeah, well, I'm, uh.
I'm glad you.
You got the courage up to call, because not everybody has the courage to call a program like this.
You know that, right?
S3Right.
Well, this is my favorite story.
And when I saw this is what you were talking about today, I said, I'll have to.
S1Okay, let's hear it.
S3Okay.
My grandmother on my mother's side passed away about 1984, and as we were cleaning out her house and her, uh, dressers and things, I found a crumpled ring in the corner of one of her drawers, and I got it.
And I asked my mom, I said, is this granny's class ring from high school?
And she looked at it and she said, yeah.
And I said, can I have it?
And she said, sure, you can have it.
And it was all, uh, it had been broken.
And it was, it was, like I said, crumpled up, and I sort of smoothed it out as best I could and stuck it on my pinky finger that day, and with the intention I was going to take it to the jewelry store and have it fixed.
Well, I kept putting it off and putting it off, but it stayed on my pinky finger and sometimes it would, um, because it was broken, it would come off and I'd fix it back.
And I just procrastinated about taking it to the jeweler jewelers for about a year.
And I used to work with the youth in my church, and there was a countywide youth event one Saturday night, and I went chaperoning with the kids, and I looked down at my hand and my ring was gone.
And I just panicked.
And I thought, okay, it's got to be on the church bus.
I scoured the church bus.
I went in the church that we were at and looked everywhere.
Could not find it.
Looked in my car when we got back and could not find it.
And I was crushed.
I was, you know, that was my grandmother's classroom that I just wanted so desperately bad.
And, um, fast forward about two years later, I had taken my son to school and came back home to get ready, get myself ready to go to work.
And when I walked in the house, I saw laying on the bar in the kitchen this ring That it had been missing for two years.
And I just I started shaking.
I was so like, where did it come from?
Because I had not seen it at all.
And so I put it in a box and as soon as I got off for lunch, I took it straight to the jeweler's and had it fixed and, uh, to have it fixed.
And so my son came home from school that day.
I said, do you know anything about a ring that was on the bar?
He said, yeah, I put it there.
And I said, when did you put it there?
He said, last night.
And I had not seen it.
And I said, where did you find it?
He said, in the driveway and next to your car in the gravel.
And he had been picking up rocks and just batting them into the trees with with a stick.
And he saw something shiny and he said, oh, that might be something.
So he said, so I put it, I took it inside.
He didn't.
He had no clue what it was.
Wow.
And I told him, I said, do you know what this is what that was.
And he said, no.
I said, that was my grandmother's high school classroom that I had lost two years ago, and it just stood there for a minute.
And his 12 year old words were, what are you going to give me for finding it?
S1What's in it for me?
That's a good question.
S4Yeah, right.
Okay, so so wait a minute.
What?
S1What year would that have been that your grandmother would have graduated?
S3Uh, it was 19, 20, 27 or 28.
S4Okay.
Yeah, that's an old ring.
Wow.
S3Yes.
And then when when my when my son's daughter.
I had always said later on that if I ever had a granddaughter, I would.
I was going to give it to her on her 12th birthday.
And my son's got two daughters now.
And when the older one turned 12, that was, I gave her the ring with the topped up story of the ring.
S1So that's so good.
That is so good.
S3My favorite story.
S1I love it.
Now, let me ask you, Charlie, let me ask you real quickly.
Are you originally from Alabama?
S3Oh, yes.
S1In Jasper.
S3County?
Yeah.
Well, I live actually, in Carbon Hill.
Now, I grew up in Jasper, and actually I'm in Jasper right now, but I'm in the same county that I grew up in.
S1Are you really?
Well, well, well, I'm glad that you.
And again, you didn't wake up today thinking you were going to call.
But when you saw what we were talking about, you had to.
And you found it.
He found it.
And you did too, right?
S3Yes, yes.
And it was just like, wow.
But I it was like I said, that's my favorite story.
And just knowing that that ring is safe now.
S1Yes.
And and passed.
S3Down her instructions to pass it on.
Yes.
S1See, that's the thing.
There's a connection between these things.
And my guess is the doctor, William Lane Craig.
Same thing.
You know, that book meant so much to him.
It's not something, though, that he's going to.
He's going to give that to to somebody else.
He's giving us the us.
The story.
What was it that you found?
I found it.
Uh, I misplaced some new prescription medications yesterday.
I found them today.
Well, good for you.
I'm glad for that.
How about, uh, let's go to Washington state?
Ross is on the line.
Hi, Ross.
Go right ahead.
S5Told you I'm on my tractor again.
I called you on my tractor before.
And you remember my recall?
S1I remember somebody on a tractor before.
Yeah, that must have been you.
S5Anyway, the thing I lost was my, uh.
I lost my cell phone one time when we were shipping out wheat.
The wheat was getting ready to go to China, and the, uh, trucker said, hey, uh, can I drop this trailer by your elevator?
And I'll come back in about a half an hour or so to pick it up.
So I said, yeah, that'd be fine.
That's the only time and 50 years they've ever dropped a trailer at our elevator after they loaded it.
So I went, I noticed my cell phone was missing.
Anyway, it had fallen off my belt and it fell off when we were, you know, finished filling the truck.
Anyway, so I had my daughter start calling and I could hear it ringing up inside that truck.
So I dug in the wheat and found it.
S1It was in the wheat.
S5It was in.
It was like three feet deep in the wheat.
S1Okay, so, Ross, you're on the.
You're on the tractor now.
Tell me what you're seeing as you're looking out the window.
S5Seeing a lot of weeds.
I'm taking care of weeds in my field, getting ready to seed for this fall, for next year.
So you're you're seeding.
S1You're seeding the wheat, then.
Is that what you're doing?
S5Yeah.
Yeah, we're getting ready to seed the wheat for next year's harvest.
S1Now, was the.
S5Phone.
S1The.
I'm sorry.
I don't mean to cut you off there.
Uh, the phone that we're talking about.
Was that like a flip phone, or was it a real nice, like an iPhone or something like that?
S5Yeah, it was an old flip phone.
That happened about ten years ago.
And uh, a couple years or about five years ago, I lost my wallet in my field, and I found it three and a half years later.
S1Really?
S5So, yeah, it had like 56 bucks in it, but the bank didn't want to honor the cash or nothing.
Yeah.
But, uh, anyway.
S1It is it is great to talk with you out there on the tractor again today.
You call back again?
I'd love to talk with you.
Don't.
Don't lose that phone.
The wallet.
Well, Ryan lost his wallet a few couple of weeks ago.
Now it's been longer than that.
How long ago was it, Ryan?
Like like three weeks.
Okay.
Uh, you still haven't found it?
Nope.
Yeah.
One of these days, somebody's gonna find that Bren is in Ohio.
Hi, Bren.
Go right ahead.
S6Hi.
I've got a little bit of a twist of one of these stories.
S1Okay, I'm ready for a twist.
S6Um.
All right, I.
I work in, like, Akron, Ohio area, and, um, my ex mother in law lives over by the Indiana border.
3.5 hours away from me.
And we hadn't really talked much, and, um, I hadn't thought too much about it.
About her.
And someone had brought some, um, Bibles from a church that was closing, seeing if anyone wanted Bibles, which is an odd thing in and of itself, that someone would bring Bibles to the faculty lounge to see if anyone wanted a Bible.
But there was a stack of Bibles and hymnals and things, and someone said, hey, jokingly, here's one with your last name in it.
I wonder if you know her.
And I was like, right?
And so I look at it.
It's my mother in law's.
My mother in law's handwriting.
It was from when she was younger.
She doesn't remember what church she was at over near Indiana, but she had been at that church.
That's where she lost her Bible.
And someone had brought it to my school in Akron, and it had her signature in it.
So I that's how I knew it was her.
She had signed it.
And I just figured, you know, if God really wants you to have something like that back, he's going to go through a lot to get it to you.
So she couldn't believe it.
But when she saw her own handwriting and saw the Bible, because I made sure she got it, she said, how did you get this?
And I said, someone brought it in to school.
So it was the strangest thing.
And everyone in my staff was like, very.
They just thought it was very weird and I thought it was very weird.
S1So weird.
Well, no, I think it's cool.
S6Strange.
S1And interesting.
You know, I wonder if there was anybody who read it in between that time and what the what the.
Oh, I've always thought about a story about, you know, the, the Bible that's handed down or the car that goes from one family to the next, and the story of the car or the inanimate object, you know, and what it experiences.
And I wonder what that Bible experienced from the time that your mom left it until it came back to her.
S6Right.
And and to be at least four hours away from where it was originally at.
Where did it, you know, how did it get where it went and where it did go in between?
It was probably a good 30 years that she hadn't seen the Bible.
She hadn't been at that church, and it kind of fallen away from faith.
And so I presented her with her own Bible back with her signature in it.
S1I gave my mother her own Bible after 30 years.
Brent.
That you're right, there is a that is a twist to this story that we're talking about here today.
How about you, friend?
What is it that you found that you that you gave back to the person that you you found it for?
Or maybe it was your own thing.
Somebody else found it or you found it.
Like Doctor Craig found this book that he thought was gone for a long time.
Lisa said, lost the diamond out of my wedding rings when we first got married, and months later, after the diamond was replaced, I found it among some extra pots and pans in our kitchen.
I took the recovered diamond back to the jewelry store, gave it back to them.
They asked me why I hadn't kept it or sold it.
Pawned it.
I told them that as a Christian, I could not keep it because that would be keeping something that wasn't mine.
It would be like stealing.
So there's there's a little morality tale.
And she says that store has since gone out of business.
What about your tale?
Do you have a and I found it story that maybe has a little bit of a twist there, too.
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We're going to continue with these I found it stories, and I think inside of all these there is a certain sense of, you know, I lost something, I have regret for something.
And that comes out in the ministry of Carenet as well, because there are men and women who are making some really difficult decisions there in the middle of a crucible, an unexpected pregnancy.
And they they're trying to make this decision so that in the future they don't look back and say, oh, I'm living with a lot of regret about this.
And if you go back 50 years from right now, you will see the pro Abundant Life Ministry of Care nets beginning.
And part of their process of helping women and men with an unexpected pregnancy is to listen to them, to be present with them, to hear the struggle, to hear the fear of what they're walking through.
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We're telling stories about I found it.
We've heard about the diamond.
We've heard about grandma's class ring, we've heard about this book and more.
And Valerie's going to tell us another story.
Hey, Valerie, how are you?
S7Hi, Chris.
Can you hear me?
S1I sure can.
S7Um, well, back in 1998, we had a whole home loss.
I was, um, six months pregnant with our eldest child, and, um, a an £80,000, uh, tractor trailer traveling at about 100mph.
Hit our house and, um.
S1Okay, wait.
You go to stop right there.
We're going to.
So is your your house.
Was it real near the interstate, or was that just a a road that was real wide that they were going to.
How do you get 100 mile an hour?
S7No.
S1Tell me.
S7Above, above our house.
I'm going to turn off my car.
I was trying to get to a good place.
Above our house there was a a very steep hill and with very large signage for at least 20 miles saying trucks go no further.
If you're over £10,000, do not proceed.
Turn here, turn here, turn here.
Unfortunately, the driver of the truck was 21 years old.
He was staggering drunk and he, quote unquote, thought he'd take a chance.
And, um, the official said that as soon as he crested the hill, he lost any hope of ever stopping.
And by the time he hit the intersection just up the street from our house, his rig was traveling at 110mph.
S1Wow.
So you weren't you?
That wasn't hyperbole.
He really was going that fast.
So the truck.
And what was the load?
Was it like lumber?
S7Yeah.
He was carrying rough cut cherry lumber.
S1You even remember the rough cut cherry lumber?
S8That's really good.
S1That's.
S8That's what a writer would do.
A lot of it.
S7There was a lot of it.
S1Okay, wait, wait, wait a minute.
Here's here's what I got.
So that 21 year old probably did not survive this.
S7Um, if we had time to talk, I could tell you that 12 people who should not have survived survived that night without serious injury.
And there is a series, a cascade of little miracles that should not have taken place.
But they all did.
Uh, you know, including the angel of the Lord shouting in one woman's ear to move.
And it saved her life.
Um, so, um.
Yeah, it was it was quite the event, but, uh, I was asleep.
I had just fallen asleep.
We had we had just finished working on a new deck.
We we had 100 year old house that we had been feverishly remodeling for two years.
And, um, yeah, my husband was mid shave and I had just fallen asleep.
I was six months pregnant and I was exhausted and, um, I didn't hear it coming.
That was two days later.
That was the headline in our local paper.
I didn't hear it coming.
Because I was just so sound asleep when it hit.
Hit the bumper of a car at the intersection and and sent those ladies spinning in circles.
And, um, as he came down the street and hit a pile of, uh, road, uh, repair gravel that diverted his path from the street to our neighbor's yard when he rolled over a car in that driveway that saved our lives.
Um, when he took off the front end of their house, I just didn't hear it coming.
My first memory, uh, didn't come back until a week later.
But my first memory of the whole event was when I was airborne.
S8Mhm.
S7That's when I woke up was when I went airborne and, uh.
Anyway.
S8Okay.
Wait, wait.
One more.
S1One more question.
One more question.
So the the unborn child that's six months pregnant, was that one of the 12 Who survived that?
Who shouldn't?
S7Yes.
Yes.
Yes.
That's correct.
S8Wow.
Okay.
S1So in the middle out of that, that's a whole.
This is the whole program here, Valerie.
We could.
S8Do just.
S1On this.
But so in the in the middle of the house was a total loss.
I'm assuming you.
Did you find something in there?
S7Well, it was blown off its foundation, and we had to climb out a second story window and down a ladder to get out.
There was no other way to get out because the half of the first floor, the half that we would have gone through, you know, at the bottom of the stairs, it was just full of debris almost to the ceiling.
Uh, in some parts of his lumber and, um, you know, all the plaster from the walls and all the furniture that was in the opposite end of the room, etcetera.
So, um, the next morning when, uh, they were prepared to, you know, tear everything down and take it away to a landfill with, you know, big bulldozers and things.
Um, the city manager said, if you want to go in and try to find things, I'll let you go in.
But it's at your own risk.
And so my husband, a few family members and friends and neighbors climbed a ladder into a second story window, and they they looked for things.
And, um, my husband was looking for my wedding rings.
My wedding ring, uh, was his grandmother's.
My engagement ring.
It was his grandmother's, circa 1928.
And so that was highly sentimental to us.
And being pregnant.
And we'd done a road trip that weekend, I had to take off my rings.
And so I wasn't wearing them.
And, um, he looked for the rings and he couldn't find them.
Um, they were able to take some stuff out.
They gave him about an hour before they had to just start tearing it down before it fell on the neighbor's house.
And, um, so we thought that the rings were lost.
One thing that he did find, uh, when they smashed out the new back doors so they could get into the dining room and kitchen area.
Uh, he looked into the living room, chest deep in rubble, and he saw something.
Caught a light, uh, through all the all the lumber and boards and debris.
And he reached down into an opening through all those boards, and he pulled out my grandfather's pocket watch.
And that was close to 100 years old and probably the most precious thing that I owned.
And, um, so he found that which was just unbelievable.
But then a few days later, um, we began to wonder if a duffel bag that he had grabbed that was in a neighbor's garage might have my rings in it.
And sure enough, they were there.
S1Wow.
S7Um, I had I had never put them on after that.
That happened on a Tuesday night and I had I hadn't gotten them out.
We hadn't unpacked from the weekend.
We just were working so hard and we were so tired.
So, so they were in the bag that got carried out.
S1So how long ago was this?
Valerie, what year was this?
S7Uh.
May of 1998.
S198?
That's right.
You told me that.
So let's see your daughter, then.
99.
Is she your daughter's 20.
Your child is 24, right?
S7Yeah, he'll be 25 on the 24th of this month.
S1And.
And what happened to the the driver is.
Do you have any idea?
S5Um.
S7You know, like you said, it is a whole show.
The the series of events was unbelievable.
It was orchestrated.
But what happened to him?
Uh, a gal that I had known in childhood in a town 20 miles away, happened to be my neighbor's best friend.
And she'd come over that evening to show her friend her brand new car, the first brand new car she'd ever owned.
And it was parked in their driveway.
And, um, when, uh, when he hit the, uh, when he hit the gravel pile, that changed the course of, you know, his trajectory.
If the if the pile hadn't been there, he would have continued to the end of our street and plummeted into a deep ravine, and he would have been crushed under his load.
Um.
So that gravel pile saved his life?
Yeah.
The car in the driveway.
Um, I have an eight by ten of that.
The picture of that car.
You can't recognize it as a car, except that there are wheels sticking out at odd angles on the top and bottom of the mangled piece of steel that was left after that truck rolled over it for, you know, 100ft or so.
But that car took the front axle off of his truck.
Had it not been there, he would have taken out the floor of our bedroom and we would have died.
We all would have died.
He would have died.
My whole, my husband and I and our baby would have died.
Um, as it was, his bumper was digging the dirt by the time it hit our yard.
Um, his his bumper was in the dirt.
And so when he punched through the corner of our house, the cab of his truck fell into our basement like a trap door.
And all of that lumber slid, uh, onto the the oak floor of our 100 year old house above him.
And he, uh, crawled out of a hole in the foundation.
He lost the tip of his pinky finger and was otherwise unharmed.
Wow.
S1Unbelievable.
And you have to at that point, if I'm the driver.
And of course, I'm thinking of this from a theological perspective.
But there's a reason why I'm alive now.
Because I should not be, you know.
Is there a God in heaven?
Is there is there some other purpose for my life moving forward?
You know, I would I would have those kinds of thoughts and and you called because of, you know, the, the, the rings and also your grandfather's watch.
But this story, Valerie, is, is just it's breathtaking and it's breathtaking in the sense of what could have happened.
You know, what happened was bad enough, but what could have happened from that was even even much worse.
So thank you for sharing it.
You got to take a break here.
Wow.
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Jeff in Michigan.
Jeff, tell me your story.
S9Okay, I am one of those that normally wouldn't call.
But this morning I thought, well, when I get a chance, I ought to mention this.
Um, yesterday I'll go back a couple of weeks.
I'm.
I'm just learning to deal with a new pair of hearing aids.
First time in my life and a couple of days ago was talking to an audiologist on zoom, and he recommended I get a different app to go with them.
And yesterday I realized that that app has a tracking part to it.
And then I'd been trimming trees, so I made 3 or 4 trips to the brush pile to unload branches and stuff.
When I came in for supper, I realized I was missing one hearing aid.
So I zeroed in on it back at the brush pile.
It wasn't going to be an easy place to find it.
So I'm down on my hands and knees, moving sticks and leaves and and, uh, I thought, you know, it was actually kind of excited about trying this out to see if it really worked.
And I thought, you know, before we had this technology, I'd be praying by now.
So I'm in a good position for that.
So I just prayed, you know, and that's what I told Jesus.
I said I would have I would have been praying long before now, but right now I am.
This is this is looking pretty tough.
And I'm asking for your help either to find it or because it was starting to get dark and I was probably never going to be closer to it or get along without it.
And I it was the right hearing aid, which I'm learning.
There's color coding to them.
And I saw just a glimpse of red.
And the part that goes in the ear was sticking out from under a dead leaf, and I zeroed in on it.
Praise God.
S1Isn't that great?
Oh, so let me.
So you found.
I found it, Jeff, that's a great story.
Now, let me ask you this.
Was it hard to get over the hump of.
I don't need a hearing aid.
I'm okay.
I'm what?
What allowed you to get over that hump?
S9Oh, it's been a while.
Yeah, but, uh.
Consideration for other people here.
Oh, it's been a few months ago now.
I was riding with my brother and his wife, uh, to a funeral and in the back seat, I couldn't hardly hear anything they were saying, and I didn't want to just lean over the front seat, but I had to keep asking them, and that was a contributor.
S1But that's a hard thing to realize, isn't it?
That, you know, you need help because I've known people who have have needed hearing aids, but they've put it off for a long time or glasses or, you know, pick, pick whatever is not working.
Well, Owl.
So good for you that there was a there was an aspect of this that you were thinking of others as well as being able to hear clearly yourself.
Right?
S9Yes.
Yes.
Yep.
S1I like that.
And you found it.
God bless you, friend.
Thank you for calling.
And all of our lines are going.
I want to camp out on what Jeff just said here before we end, though, because we can't.
I think he's right.
I think because of our technological age that we live in, we can lean on things more.
And aren't you glad you know that you have a car key that you can press and open the door and and the the back will come, the trunk will come up, and.
ET cetera.
ET cetera.
All of that.
You've got an app that you can go and you can find the, the hearing aid that this is where it is or this is the, the area that it's in.
But they don't make an app for what is really Way down deep.
I mean, they they can try to make this.
They can lead you.
But there's only one place where you can go for for the forgiveness that you need in your life and for the connection that you need for God, your heavenly father.
And I don't know where you are on that trail and on that continuum.
They don't make an app, a salvation app.
They can have verses, they can point you, they can say, here's a here's a model prayer to pray in order to receive the gift that God has.
And that's great.
But there's only one person in the universe who can make the difference on the inside that you and I both need.
So let's just end this week.
That way I found it.
You remember that bumper sticker they used to have?
I found it and people would ask me.
It was about Jesus.
That is the most important relationship that you can ever have, that you can ever find.
And the dirty little secret here is that dirty secret.
But the secret is that he's been chasing you down.
And maybe right now is the time that you.
You need to turn to him and say, I can't do it on my own.
I'm going downhill and the truck is getting faster, and I'm going to take something out, and it's probably going to be my life.
I need you to forgive me, to make me a new person on the inside.
You pray a prayer like that, and he'll he'll start to do it.
Not through your own power, but through his power.
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