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Where go poking around and all the big marshmallow robotic marshmallows and mice you can find to discover their secrets.

It's matt here over there.

It's a paranoid American.

Got any robots in your room?

BattleBots?

Actually funny you say that.

I mean, I've got my lighting a certain way.

But yeah, I don't know if you'll be able to see.

But I actually do have all kinds of robot parts and micro controller parts right behind me at all times.

So I'm a sucker for robots.

I love BattleBots.

I wasn't asking the question in many ironic sense.

I thought you might do something like that, Do I have robots in my room?

Well?

Because because part of the coolest thing that I got to do when I worked at Disney for ten years was that early on I was able to work with some animatronics stuff.

Not like the Imagineer top level, but we did have this weird yankee you'll probably appreciate this.

We had some like like old stoner guys in the Disney engineering department that made our way into the post production that we worked in, and they were using MIDI cables and MIDI signals in order to like control robots and have you know, eyes blink and things move around because the atronics thing, right, yeah, it was, and it was It was just because it happened to be cheap and they happened to know how to do it, and they just knew if I send this signal on MIDI cube, I'm not going to get too nerdy right now, but yeah, we not only robots, but MIDI controlled robots.

I'll tell you where to get nerdy.

Defunct Land.

I haven't watched yet, but my buddy has told me to watch.

Yesterday, they had Animatronics Part one.

You know, it's one of those things now where they when they do put out something that's insane, so they put out a two hour documentary on animatronics.

Last year.

They just put out Ematronics too now it runs at four hours.

So if you really want to get nerdy on that stuff, there is a place you can do that for sure.

Jay.

You know what, it's not as interesting for me watching other people do it.

Like you just got to get in there.

You have finger yeah, b hands on.

Man Okay, as discussed before, that's probably mean guitars.

I will screw around with guitars and get out with screwdrivers and play around and see what I can do.

Sometimes no soldering though I haven't reached the soldering level.

I too, so yeah, I guess you might know soldering then with that stuff in there.

No time like the present.

I prefer larger soldering and not this weird micro controller stuff.

Like at this point you have to have a big magnifying glass and it makes me feel old.

I feel like an old person.

But you know, back in my day we did we had breadboards.

I like to keep it on a breadboard.

You get those advisors with the magnifying parts on it.

Yeah, but you still have to have the precision with what you're using.

I mean, like your your fingers don't just magic gets smaller because your vision gets magnified.

I still love the scene, and this is pertinent for it because of Disney, but our Pixar, but toy story two.

I just love the guy that fixes Woody where he's just like old and shaking, and but right when he does his work, just like kind of like stiffens up.

I'm like, I don't know, as I get older, I appreciate that symore like a sniper too.

I bet snipers are like that.

Oh yeah, there are two traumatized shaking up the stairs.

But then before you take out JFK at the end exactly, That's why you could.

That's why he could make the shot people, because he got that still and could make a bullet go in three different directions at once.

So that.

Well, this movie, you're way more familiar with it.

Because you say that the main character, Baymax, is still popular in Japan.

I don't.

I don't know.

I'm not in touch with these kids right now these days in the US, But I don't think bay Max is a huge thing.

Here here's the weird thing.

I think bay Ma goot popular like in the past five years because this movie Baymax.

I'm just gonna call the movie bay Max.

That's what we call in Japan Big Hero six whatever.

Sure, but like I think it did okay in Japanese theaters or anything, like like any other anime ad Disney movie that isn't Frozen that did much better.

But you know, like it did okay.

But they opened the rock.

They opened a ride at Disneyland maybe three or four years ago, which is the Happy Ride with Baymax.

That's one I talked about where there's five J pop songs.

You'll get one of them as you ride it.

People hang out outside and like dance to them.

The cast members are dancing as it's going.

I finally rode the ride last month.

Unfortunately I was there at a time when the cot wasn't there, so it was not really that interesting.

So hold on, there's five J pop songs in this movie, No.

No no in the ride called that Happy Ride with Bamax, which was one of them, is made by like miss Missus green Apple, which is a very popular jpop band, which but anyway, Yeah, and then like there's like high school girls.

I'll just like group around it all day and like dance to the songs and stuff.

I've seen it I've been there when that was happening, but when I actually wrote it, it seemed to be on a really like chill, nothing's going on day.

The cast members were still like half dancing.

But yeah, so it was I guess you should go at night as well, so you get all the crazy lights.

I was in the middle of the day, so that was also probably a mistake.

And you have to go to Japan in order to be on this ride because we don't have a BMX ride.

You have rides like it.

There's I know you're not in California, but California has a Car's ride that's the exact same system, like the same ride system.

And I think Florida, I don't know what the theme is, but I think Florida has one too that it's like a different theming that's the same ride basically.

So you were talking about music though on the ride in the movie.

I actually had this note of man, I don't mind the music in this movie, and then a certain song came on, the Immortal Song, and I had to go back to my note and be like, Okay, never mind, I'm not sure if I like the music in this movie.

You're out having seen it and for me, I didn't see in the theater because it was only in Japanese and Japanese theaters.

I mean, this is my normal thing.

I saw it, we got the Blu ray or whatever and watched it with my daughter.

She liked it pretty well.

You know, we didn't watch it a frozen amount of times, but like I said, I think watching it last night was probably my sixth time seeing it, so she liked it somewhat.

But it wasn't like one of those like, oh my god, please stop putting this movie on Winnie the Pooh, which we did a few weeks ago that got a good like thirty views, but I was perfectly happy to watch that one again, and this one got like six.

This one got about six views.

Big Hero six six views.

Yeah, I think I'm at about six views now.

But I haven't watched it for like ten years either, so it has been quite a while since I watched it.

So it was, you know, kind of dude, like, okay, before we start record, like hey, do you know this was Marvel?

And I was first going to come out with like, hey did you know this was Marvel?

And Big Hero six is the correct title because I was a comic and it's a team.

And I forgot this movie had a team.

You just think there's Hero, there's Bamax, that's it, right now, there's let's.

Let's save that.

Let's let's save that for getting in the weeds in a little bit, because I got some interesting notes about how it morphed from what the Marvel version was to what we actually end up getting, and then some of the correlations you can draw between the two.

But and this specifically came about because once Disney buys Marvel, they buy Marvel in twenty ten, I think there's still branding, like when Avengers comes out, it has like the paramount logo or whatever, because of deals still in place.

But Disney was already getting like most of the profit at that point.

I think it's after Avengers when Disney straight up starts putting their name on Marvel movies.

So after twenty ten, uh, you know, last Year's telling his people to go, you know, see how to use this.

So the animators were basically finding the most obscure Marvel things they could and gave them like six outs.

Why did I keep saying six Probably because the title of this movie gave several options.

It might have not been six options, but this was the one that that flew, you know, literally and figuratively.

Which is interesting because it departs so far from the source material.

Okay, we're gonna get there.

Let's talk about what the movie actually ended up being first, and then what we're gonna rewind it back and talk about the Marvel origins.

Okay, so am I doing that?

We got San San Fran Sochio, Did I say it right?

I'm like kind of like worried about saying that.

I think, yeah, friand Sochio fan friend Sochio.

It's sounds like something Mormon would do.

Yeah, So we got the tech industry.

I guess it's slightly Norrius because I think Silicon Valley is more like San Jose.

It's a little more south.

But all the tech guys are in the city now right, like at the university there.

And are we in agreement that this is basically Man in the High Castle future that Germany and Japan won World War two and that's why they run San Fran Tokyo.

There is a production backstory, It's not that because that would be a little dark if they had to explain it that way.

People wouldn't like that.

They say, after the big San Francisco quake of nineteen oh six, idea here that is, the Japanese immigrants really stepped up to rebuild the city.

So the geography of the city is like to the point where they bought like, you know, went to the city office and got like the proper not blueprints of the city whatever they call the you know, overview.

So like they put all that into the computer.

So it is San Francisco with a bunch of like Japanese stuff.

Player, it's like the Golden gate Bridge of this.

It's good, it's the Golden gate Bridge.

But now all the towers look like Tory gates.

You know, I'm going with the World War two thing.

Oh no, yours is more fun.

I'm just telling you that the production actually went with the Japanese immigrants rebuilt after the quake, was the official line.

But this is going to sound ignorant, but that's okay.

I thought it was mostly like Chinese immigrants that they populated the West with to build all the railroads or was it just a mixed bag any anyone from Asia counted as Chinese.

Mixed bag for the railroad's Chinese Chinese is correct?

I believe it was more of Chinese immigrants, but San Francisco had the largest Japanese population in America.

Maybe it still does.

I don't know.

Seattle, I think has a pretty big one too now, but uh yeah, that's just where they, you know, had the biggest because they have a Chinatown in San Francisco too, don't they.

So, I mean it makes sense if you're coming from if you're coming across the Pacific, that's the first place you're going to hit, right.

I've lived in five major cities, and every one of those major cities has had a China town.

Let me think about that.

Well, in Japan, that's I mean.

San Antonio outside New Orleans, Orlando definitely has a China town.

In New York, like, every one of those had a China town.

Okay, Atlanta has a China town, Yeah, definitely, but it's like a China suburb more like right, it's like once the thing that Thelanta is once they announced the Olympics in like nineteen ninety, that's when the city really like started to diversify more.

I guess.

So, like where my parents live is basically when people are like, where do you live in Atlanta?

I might say oh in the Korean part, Like my part of Atlanta is like Korea Town, good sandwiches.

Oh yeah, but it's all mixed up too.

I think I mentioned before there's a there's you know, like a sign of a strip mall that has like seven different languages on it.

You know, there's like Thai, Vietnamese, Spanish, Chinese, you know, Korean, and some English.

Well, and speaking of I do get the feeling that this Big Hero six, the ensemble there, it's a global right.

This movie also feels a little bit like Planes, where Planes was stretching to just be inclusive of every single country and nationality.

I kind of get a very similar feeling for this.

Which two I'm not gonna get too far into the weeds yet, but the original Marvel Big Hero six team they also kind of represented that.

I think that they skewed a little bit towards Japan, but they have like an international feel to him as well, Like I think they've literally worked alongside the un Yeah.

I don't know if that team's memorable, but I will say, having watched this movie just last night, I've pretty much forgotten everyone on the team again.

In this movie, except for the stoner guy, and I don't.

Remember what he did Fred.

So Fred is just a comic book guy.

That's what he does.

He's a comic book guy.

Okay, that's why.

So yeah that if they were trying to move based on the team, I'm like, well, they did not make that memorable at all, because I'm looking what we got Sunfire names too, Silver Samurai was on Big Hero six.

Ohm.

I okay, all right, hold on, let's let's save this.

Let's save We're saving it.

Sorry, sorry, I'm saving and.

So hold on, let me let me walk through, because really, this movie doesn't have a whole lot to do with the source materials.

So let's just let's talk about what what the movie does first, and we can talk about what the source material does.

Because in the movie, it's about this this kid that basically is a genius doogie howser, battle bought hacker creator.

Right, He's kind of a Mary Sue, but a nerd boy version, maybe like a John Sue.

If we start, doesn't Mary Sue have to come in like later?

Mary Sue can't be there from the start, can gee?

He I get I don't know.

I always I always assuming Mary Sue is just somebody that can do everything with no real training, kne so it is.

I would be curious to hear what listeners think.

I think.

I feel like Mary Sue must be added after the initial stages of whatever it is you're doing or not.

I'd be curious to know what I'd like.

Seriously, I'm like.

Well, I don't know.

Technically, if someone comes along and tells the main character you've had the power in you all along, and they're like I do, Wow, I do, and then all of a sudden they can do the thing that you've been building up to, I feel that that would be a still a Mary Sue, even if that character was introduced in frame one.

So Neo and the matrix is Mary Sue.

Maybe.

Although Neo had like some kind of hacker ability, right, he was at least being employed as a mid to high tier programmer or something.

So it's it's a cubicle, I guess.

So yeah, but it's not like he just rolled up on to like the shore one day and then all of a sudden could solve everyone's problems.

Okay, I mean I guess I could see a fourteen year old kid might be a little bit into you know, like tinkering with stuff.

I had a friend that we kept meaning to go build a theremon.

I was going to rely on his technical skills and basically help and then want to play it.

But yeah, we just never got around to it.

That's how most of those projects and then going it is.

That's the big one for me though, never built a theremon.

That's what I'm saying, like, if if you want a tinker and make a little robot or make a theoreman, like, just order the damn parts and do it like you can do it in a day or maybe a weekend with the right YouTube videos.

Or there's a Saved by the Bell where Screech has built himself a sentient robot that we only see in like one or two episodes.

Of what this movie is.

This movie is about Screech making like a sentient robot, and you're just like, okay, whatever you Screech can do that, but a theoremon you can do.

But also, after a weekend, even if you can get it to sound kind of right, you're like, eh, maybe I should have just spent like eighty bucks to get just a kit already did this out of the box.

And then so I totally do it now, Yeah, his high school, I didn't have the money.

Go pay Lady Bucks, now I do so.

Okay, So we get this thirteen year old doogie howser battlebot kid and he's hustling.

He's basically hustling these criminals that are also doing battle bots in this underground battle bot ring, and he wins a whole bunch of money, and then he gets saved by his brother from getting beat up by I guess he's like underground criminals.

And then his brother whisks him away to college campus and at the college campus the DARPA canvas.

And at DARPA he meets I guess, this guy that's kind of one of his heroes who's a professor there, and he also meets a guy that's kind of like an Elon Muskie, Bill gatesy entrepreneur slash tech mogul there and from here he I guess he creates these little nanobots.

He really creates a couple things, which is this is the Mary Sue part.

So he's got the They kind of look like if you ever play jacks, right with the little ball and a little jat, that's kind of like these little jack looking things that are nanobots that can form into a mesh and communicate with each other, and they can form any sort of shape that you want.

But the other thing that he's got is this little telepathic brain scan reader that knows what you're thinking and then can translate your thoughts into the coordinates that these little nanobots need to configure themselves in.

And I was just thinking immediately, and I already know I'm giving it more thought than they are giving the audience credit for, probably, But isn't the real headliner there, Hey, I have a device that can read thoughts.

It's not Hey, I figured out how to make these nanobot things talk to each other.

I feel like that's pretty rudimentary.

People can do that.

But to actually invent something that can read your brain waves and translate that into something else, that's usually the plot point of other movies, like the bad guy just found this thing and now we have to get it from him.

Yet in this movie, the thirteen year old kid makes this, and really the focus is on the stupid little nanobots.

And my noticed, so hero just invented the darkest tool of the darkest plants.

I have questions about this, and.

They kind of gloss over it.

Yeah, yeah, for sure.

So the movie's focusing on what on the the nano technology, which here's something from my past and now watching this like probably the first time I saw it too.

But I did environmental education.

I was working a Maine like on the beach in two thousand and two, and we had like someone come by during like training or something to lecture us about nanotechnology.

Like a bunch of you know, teachers, probably mostly twenty two to twenty five, a few people older than that.

But yeah, we got this big lecture about nanotechnology in two thousand and two, and I'm like that was weird.

Maybe.

But also Michael Crichton wrote this book, The Swarm, that I believe was nineties maybe even eighties.

It was also about nanobots, so it's not like it was a foreign concept across the board, Michael.

I mean, and this was post Jurassic Park.

So yeah, well, I in my constant Star Trek references, Voyager also had the Swarm, which had a bunch of small NANOI.

I mean they were bigger in nano, but that kind of vibe like, you.

Know, well in this movie too, they are they're actually not nanobots.

They call them microbots, which makes more sense because you like, he can hold the components of them in his hand and you can see it.

If they were a nanobot, you wouldn't be able to see it unless you were like really getting in there.

Yeah, they do need to animate this so right, and even for kids to be able to tell, like, oh, they're like little miniature robots.

I think it connects better than nano because nano you'd have to do like a whole zoom in sequence to just let you know, hey, this shape that looks like bees, you know what I mean.

Yeah.

Anyway, after all that, they blow up DARPA, so of course Hero's brother eats it in that one.

And then I have a note, have we seen a funeral in a Disney movie before?

Like an anime and Disney movie?

I've I feel like we have.

But I guess now that you asked a question, I don't know if I can put my finger on it.

But yeah, I mean, I mean, I.

Guess White has the funeral vibe, but she gets out of the glass case, so it doesn't turn out to be funeral in the end.

Well, we gotta we got to rewatch everything again and find out yeah, anyway, just I know this is Disney, so often they pull the rug out from under you, so they might show you someone that like died, but then it's like, oh no, they're not dead because they just got a kiss.

So yeah, this is kind of I think, like the uh most Disney proxy thing we've gotten a while, because Brother dies Baymax shows up pretty quickly after that.

The original plan, by the way, was that Bamax was going to show up your the end of the movie and uh, horrible movie.

Yeah exactly, they're like, don't borrow someone is like, let's don't worry the lead he comes in Earth, which made them have a restructure of the entire movie.

But that's fine, it works better.

I do.

I like this movie pretty well.

I think it's it's entertaining.

I mean it's I think it's also a darker stuff than we've seen in the past few movies.

But uh, I think it's entertaining.

I don't think it has that same occult connection.

I don't think it's as deep as other Disney movies are.

But I absolutely understand too why you call it ba Max and why that's like the most recognizable part of this and it's not about any of the other Big Hero six teammates.

And it was crazy to think that they might have had a version of this movie where you don't even get ba Max until the end, because ba Max makes the entire movie.

He's the most interesting thing about it, and he's where all the gags are.

He's what kind of softens the movie a little bit, right, He's he's kind of like both stren uh to like this weird, absurd world.

But then he's also so insanely like unable to hurt things that it reminds me of when John Connor again tells the Terminator like you can't kill anybody, it's like shoot everyone in the kneecaps.

That's kind of Bamax.

Bamax is kind of the neutered version of Arnold Schwarzenegger.

Yeah, the the goal here was to, you know, have like a new kind of robot.

So it's not the Terminator, it's not C three PO, it's not any of your Japanese mes uh and they here we go.

They they got the idea from Carnegie Mellon's University's Robotic Institute, where they met a team of DARPA funded researchers who are finding the new field of software robotics.

So that's it's just yes, the idea of Baybax comes directly from Darfa actually, like no, it's not a conspiracy.

That's just where it comes from.

Like you know what, it's genius too.

As soon as I saw the mechanism because for anyone that hasn't seen this movie, the Baymax character, he's a personal healthcare companion.

So it's like a little robot that would hang out with you in the hospital room or maybe in your own house if you needed help.

And it fits into this tiny little box and the box can open and this big thing inflates.

It's just made out of I guess like polyester or something, and the thing it inflates with air because it has a little fan built into it.

And then once it comes to its full size, it can walk around and it can like hand you things, but it can't really hurt you, right if you were to if it like try to like punch you, or if you fell into it.

It's just a big pillow filled with air.

So until he puts armor on it, and that which is kind of like a kind of like Avon like Evangelian armor style to like uh, imprison it but also make it stronger.

But in this case, like ba Max is unable to harm anything.

And it is an interesting concept of a robot because almost every other row I've ever seen other than bay Max would at least be capable of hurting you if it fell on you, because it's heavier.

It could pinch you because there's like little metal joints, so you could get your fingers stuck in or they can like overheat.

And this thing is literally just a big bag of air.

Let me do a little bit more of the Japan thing.

The happy Ride with bay Max, that's what's about.

You get in the line and there's all this stuff like, oh, you're not quite happy enough.

Bay Max is going to fix that for you, right, And that's why the songs the song is supposed to bay Max's engineered these songs to make you happy.

And you get in the little car and then there's a bay Max in front of your that that kind of spins you around and takes you around on these loops and stuff.

So at night time with people dancing around the edges, I guess it would be fun.

But if you go Tokyo, doesn't it and just watch a few cycles.

You don't ride the thing, but that's the thing there.

Bay Max's face, they also were like, especially once he's an armor, he still needs to look like kind of innocent or non threatening.

So this might be one of the reasons it's cut on Japan.

It's based after the bells you would find it shrines like they often have it.

It's a brass bell and it has that little an opening like that I mentioned before.

Japan's Mickey Mouse is kind of dryme On.

He's a robot cat from the future that doesn't have ears, and he's probably one of them.

He's one of the top three most popular characters in Japan, but I don't think Americans know dryme On so much.

But yeah, he's his cat collar has that kind of bell, So it's an image that Japanese are just kind of used to.

So when they see Baymax's face, it's it's it's very I guess comforting for Japanese people.

Well for me, now you'really now that I know who bay Max is, but I feel that we don't probably get the same level of Baymax marketing in the States that you would in Japan either.

Oh best one of the best examples is if you go to the other part Disney, see they have Mysterious Island.

It's the Jules Verne themed land.

It's got the Journey to the Center of Earth's right, one of the best rides ever, and it has this little shop in this very cyberpunk looking like kind of dome, right, and for some reason it's now completely bamax merch and this Jewels Verne lands like that doesn't even make sense.

Disney will make it make sense.

That's how they operate.

The ride next to this ends with a giant lava demon sell some Lava Demon merch.

What are you doing Lava Mama?

Actually, because you see the eggs right, and then it's protecting their babies and shoots you out of the volcano.

That's the ride.

So Lava Mama, okaymer for Lava Mama.

So this thirteen year old genius makes a helmet that can read your thoughts and it can communicate your thoughts into this network mesh of microbots that can then turn into anything that you want.

And he has to make this big decision.

He has to make a decision do I want to sell this idea and work for Alistair Cray, which Alister Crowley, right, Alistair Cray or do I focus this in academia and make no money off of it, but just kind of like feel good about it.

So of course he chooses academia because this is a Disney movie and Disney has to always like push the state narrative, I assume.

But as soon as I thought this was funny, the second that he chooses academia, like that night, like five minutes later, the university burns down, so it's almost like foreshadowing, Hey, maybe don't go with academia next time, Maybe you should go with private industry and the corporate world.

Right.

Anyways, he goes to that it burns down, and as it's burning down, his brother's like, oh my god, our professor, the academic professor.

He's in there, So the brother runs in to go and save him, and the brother never comes out, and that's when we see maybe the first Disney funeral.

I'm not gonna I'm not gonna say that it is, but maybe it's the first Disney funeral.

This was Professor Callahan.

And then we discover Bamax again for the first time, which was his brother's invention, and Baymax has like a little disk in it from his brother, which I think that they're kind of implying that it has some of his brother's traits and even personality and maybe even soul like I don't, I don't.

Know if and stuff, since we were just talking about that.

Yeah, if you haven't watching our other cartoon cabal show, we've been watching Neon Genesis Evangelion.

But this one is very on the nose with that, right, because the concept of Evangelion is that they've we've created these mech suits which can also somehow have big robots that have a human soul inside.

And this is kind of what Bamax is.

Bamax is this non offensive personal care companion that gets hacked by a thirteen year old and the third, let's say fourteen to make it more Evangelian like.

So this fourteen year old puts a mech suit on top of this healthcare companion, so now it's kind of a badass, but he also finds out that his brother's soul might be inside of it.

Now, Hira Hamada is fourteen.

Oh so this is Eva Gillian.

Okay, yeah, this is.

Disney making Evan Gillian for kids.

Yeah, I guess.

So the other thing too, I wanted to point out.

Is this that we see Baymax show a couple times this different pain scale, and I guess this is universal now, but it has the colors that go from green to red, and then it has the faces that go from completely happy to maybe nonplused too.

I'm in lots of pain and I'm kind of crying, and it's where the doctor's like, Okay, tell me how much pain you're in, and that determines how many opiates you get or like the level of oxycon they're going to give you.

And I just thought that that's because essentially Bamax is showing him okay, like what's your pain level?

Does this mean Baymax can dispense OxyContin?

I guess so he's coming from a you know, versus the DARPA lab, you know, like quite literally now that I've been doing a bit more of the research here.

He'll teach you about puberty as well.

Do you want to learn about puberty from Baymax?

Well, not not only will he teach you, he will fix you.

He'll solve it.

He'll he'll do sex said for kindergarteners.

He has no problem with that.

He also I was thinking that there's got to be some other connection between Baymax and at least Purdue Pharma, a big pharma in general.

There's no way that this is coming from academia and DARPA and it doesn't tie in with big pharma at some point.

So I assume that he could probably have some kind of like a mist because he's he's constantly has fans blowing, so there's air rotating through his body at all times.

That's how he like kind of acts like he moves like a wacky wobbler.

That means that he could just ariosol any sort of drug and then just spray it in your face, like almost immediately.

Yeah, I think so.

Now that is a little more under the service.

They don't because we don't really get that deep into his actual medical skills in this movie.

But they are all implied, aren't they.

What if you're working in modern technology in the healthcare field, what part of what you're working on doesn't make its way to big pharma?

It all goes there, right, All roads lead to big pharma.

Yes, I mean this one definitely is like I mean, I guess, my, my, you make the YouTube headlines, but I'm like, you know, Disney wants you to trust tech giants and you know what, burned down academia or something.

Right, that's kind of the vibe Disney wants to prescribe oxy cotton to your children.

Knows what's right.

He might creepy it first, but he knows what's right.

You're just gonna talk to your kid about puberty a little bit about some strange and strong urges they might be going through.

Yeah, So that that's what stuck out to me.

I guess the tech end stuck out to me a lot more than the medical end.

But the medical and is implied once you start thinking about it.

So and is a medical robot, isn't he?

So technically there's a little bit of anti Christ narrative in this movie too that I'm not overlaying or pushing in there.

Because the theme song, from what I can tell of the entire movie, it's the one big song they break into and then they replayed at the end, is about how you're going to become immortal.

And I believe that's essentially the one big thing that we expect the anti Christ to promise everyone is immortality, which is also what the health slash technology field is essentially leading its way to, Like I were If there were one industry on the entire planet that would be promising immortality, it's probably tech and healthcare.

Yeah, so I was actually looking for it.

I've read a lot of notes for this, Okay, I wasn't watching the movie close to us, too busy writing notes.

Is that good or bad?

I'm not sure.

Well, here, I'll finish up my summary because it doesn't get that much.

So I think when we see the university burned down after Hero decides he's going to go with Academia and he's not going to go with Alistair, the you would be led to believe, oh, Alistair burned it down, right.

Alistair's like, well, if I can't get it, no one's going to get it, and he kills the professor and he burns down and you find out that's not the case, and it's actually the nanobots that are now the bad guy kind of and Professor Callahan, the old guy that you think is the good guy, he ends up being the bad guy.

So it's almost like it was a little bit surprising but also very predictable because they set all these pieces up so easily, you kind of expect that, and so we basically start fighting Professor Callahan as the arch nemesis.

But my interpretation is that it's the nanobots that are really the bad guy here because they kind of start taking over Callahan.

Is that how you picked that up?

Well, yeah, because he's he's on the you know, the it's like the Mister Freeze thing where mister Freeze is just trying to save his dead wife and Professor Klin is just trying to get his you know, well, I guess he's trying to get revenge on his daughter.

He doesn't know that because that's the plot point we haven't mentioned yet.

His daughter, Abigail took a test flight into what the alternate doctor Strange dimension or something, and uh he assumes that that you know, Tech killed her or whatever.

So he's on a revenge trip.

But uh yeah, big finale the movie is his Baymax.

You're better at these summarizations, but uh, here on Bamax going in there, Baymax is supposedly sacrificing himself to save here and you know, salvage Abigail from the dementor zone or whatever.

It was, right, and they find out that she was alive the whole time in some alternate dimensions, so that it's like, oh, okay, my bad, I was kind of being a dick all for no reason and trying to get revenge on everyone.

Even though not exactly the plot of the second ant Man movie, it's kind of a lot of more movies, to be honest, A lot of this is probably where they got some of that Marvel inspiration.

The other thing, too, My favorite part I think of the entire movie is that when Baymax gets low on battery, he gets drunk and he starts acting like a drunk, and that's probably the best part of this entire character.

Yeah, I would go with that.

I had some note on that bay Max is drunk, go home, but he is home, so now what does he do?

Okay, that was my note.

Okay, And then we also see that Hero is able to upload kind of again.

I guess a Nero matrix would be another good example here, where Neo downloads how to fly a helicopter and how to you know, do all these martial arts, and now he knows how to do it.

We kind of get that Hero puts all this on a disk drive, and he puts that disk drive in the Baymax and now Bamax literally is doing karate and he knows how to like knock down doors and be viol out of nowhere.

Yeah, but that's for yet another Star Trek Voyager reference.

That's the doctor there.

They have the Emergency Medical Hologram kind of a Baymax on that show.

You know, he's kind of gruff and stupid at first.

Over time since he's existing now, you know, and they eventually have to turn or they give him a program to be the Emergency Command Hologram.

Well, the Emergency Command Hologram can fire phasers and destroy his ship and kill you know, beings, right, So that kind of goes against things.

So once Beamax starts learning violent stuff, it seems like a weird conflict of interest.

Uh yeah, I would totally assume too.

And then DARPA's like, what, No, we never would have thought that this thing that we funded and created ever going to turn violent.

We never use any of our stuff for violent.

And I want to mention two other bits of media.

One I think I did mention the cartoon Cabal, which is Caprica, which is kind of it's where the yeah, Battlestar prequel prequel actually, but the Tech Giant's daughter dies in a terrorist attack, but she's done so much that basically she's put the disc onto the Internet where she has written you know, so there's like this ghost version of her that maybe is her.

And then Baymax kind of has this thing too, like how much of this actually is Hero's brother.

So that's going on, and that had me thinking, I told you before how we had family viewings of Alien and the Shining as as one does.

Last week.

My daughter likes brainy sci fi recently, so I put on AI you know, this Fieldbird almost Kubrick thing.

That one actually drove We're gonna have that one.

That one drove my wife out of the room.

She couldn't handle that one.

I would just say that the Spielberg Kubrick thing is a little bit of a slap in the face.

As my understanding of this, which is definitely biased and not mainstream, my understanding is that this was almost a slight This was Spielberg pissing on Kubrick's grave because maybe Kubrick exposed the moon landing.

I don't know what he was doing, but that originally Kubrick's vision for this was completely polar opposite to what Spielberg ended up putting out.

And there are some groups of people that believe that this was unintentionally like Spielberg was like, screw you, Stanley, I'm doing this the way that you you wanted to make sure it never got done this way.

I'm doing it that way.

And that's kind of how the AI movie came into fruition, And the original version was almost gonna be alchemical and about an actual homunculous and not whatever power.

I think keeps that after the first hour.

You're right, but the first hour seems to maintain that.

I would say, like that would definitely maybe thinking about humunculous and all that.

Maybe Spielberg just didn't finish it off the way that it needed to, but yeah, and yeah.

It seemed like it started.

But yeah, it does definitely go more spielberg y.

I do kind of I think that movie's gotten better with age, So I would recommend to rewatch too, but.

Better than was it Man of the Century or bi centennial Man by centennial Man?

That one that one had.

Ravin Williams would include as part of his stand up act apologizing for that movie.

That one does not ages as well as AI does.

That was a regular part of his stand up.

I don't remember exactly how he structured the joke, but he would have, you know, amusingly apologize for that movie on stage when he started doing stand up again.

Anyway, my point is an AI.

Of course, the thing that drove my wife out of the room is is basically, were looking at a boy who's getting treated so bizarrely because he's a robot.

A Max gets rid of that by looking big, plushy and cute.

He's a giant marshmallow, right, Like, maybe it's really be hurt.

He can't be hurt outside of maybe if you destroyed his like computer that you put the discs in, but you can't.

Really even the disc itself.

Did it, didn't it?

Which of course Hero for some reason is able to recreate his brother's technology completely to make a new Baymax at the end, which that's weird.

Oh this doesn't there Okay, I'll go with that for the for the very soon thing.

But yeah, but yeah, you only need that disc.

I guess I don't know that.

That's why I started thinking a Caprica.

I'm Michael, it's just the disc.

So yeah, So the whole, the whole premise of this movie is basically Doogie Howser battlebot boy brother dies.

He invents some crazy robotic thing.

The robotic thing gets stolen by his hero professor.

He wins it back, finds a professor's daughter, and everyone kind of lives happily ever after.

That's sort of the premise of this, right, Well except for a hero's brother.

He does not live happily ever after.

Well, I don't know.

He gets to live through Baymax So Potato pat.

Come on, he's dead.

They put him on the ground.

Okay, sure he's dead.

Whatever, he's dead.

Yeah, Well that is the thing I'm bringing up Caprica and stuff.

I'm like, is Bamax actually the brother?

I would say the soul is the soul transferred?

I don't know.

Oh, and that was a big thing in Caprica.

Did the soul get transferred or not, which, when you're talking tech, probably not.

But then you got that's the whole thing.

You got the cylon.

So it's like they seen what it come Sandy in, so blah blah, interesting show.

I think, Yeah, watch Kaprica, folks that it was good and nobody watched it.

I saw it.

I mean it wasn't bad.

But you also have to have already cared about Battlestar Galactica to really care about Africa.

Yeah, I guess it's the best form of prequel.

It's a completely different thing.

But you did have to watch the first one to really get it.

So yeah, so it's like, yeah, folks, go ahead and invest in like a five or six series HBO production, hour long episodes, no commercials, by the way, and then go and watch the prequel after that.

So talk to me in about one hundred to two hundred hours worth of watch time.

Now, this one does have a lot of codetails.

It's had two series to chase it down.

I think they're thinking about the sequel still, although that's a quote from twenty fifteen, so let's I don't know.

I mean, it seems like something they could do.

Sure, make a sequel television series.

There's Big Hero six, the series like three years after, and in twenty twenty there was a Disney Plus series called Baymax when they were just throwing everything they possibly could into Disney Plus to try and have a nut fail.

So uh, okay, I mean you kind of already brought this up.

But even though it's called Big Hero six, you call it Baymax.

The star of the movie is Bamax.

I barely even remember the protagonist's name, which is literally hero.

That's for how I remember it.

Bay Maax is still the coolest thing here, and it is a little bit weird to consider spin offs and other series and like who cares.

No one on the team really matters, and ultimately, no one on the team is really super anything.

They're just wearing heroes, cool doogie howser stuff that makes them cool.

Like I could put on any of those suits and now I would be a superhero too, which kind of destroys the whole reason why a kid would care about someone that's in a superhero team.

I think, Yeah, this one's also.

A good one to make a TV show because the voice stars.

I usually talk about voice stars by this point, I haven't so much here because nobody's particularly They just hired actual voice actors for once.

I don't miss it.

Man, I don't really need a celebrity voice.

In fact, when I hear a celebrity voice, I'm just thinking, like, what corners did you cut to pay this person some ridiculous amount of money.

You could have probably had a cooler background right now.

Okay, Alistair Cray was Alan Tudic and Professor Callahan was James Cromwell not the biggest stars and that is stan Lee at the end and yeah me at Stanley at the end.

I was extremely confused by since I didn't know it was a Marvel series.

I was like, oh, Stanley, okay, boiler alert.

Hey, if you're listening to this forty three minutes in, I think I think the spoiler band aid has been ripped off.

Well since, okay, you brought up stan Lee, let's talk a little bit about Marvel background of this.

And I asked you when we right before we started recording, if you knew I've never seen this movie before, so I didn't know.

But I also didn't even know about Big Hero Six being a Marvel team.

But I absolutely love Silver Samurai.

He was like one of my favorite Wolverine showdowns.

And also because Wolverine and Silver Samurai are both like anti heroes, they're not like neither of them are necessarily good guys or bad guys.

So I always found that particular face off was like one of the more interesting ones out of all the ones Wolverine had.

But that's the limited series Chris Claremont thing from the mid eighties, right, that's like one of the best swoffing comics ever correct.

And then this is when you know Wolverine goes to Japan and he's got like a Japanese girlfriend and he turns to Don Gamurai for a little while, like it's one of the cooler ones.

And I guess during that stint or related to this and Silver Samurai, that there was like a Japanese team that called Big Hero six.

And in this Japanese team, Bamax was actually a dragon hybrid creature that kind of looked like Savage Dragon.

I don't know if you remember that series that was.

I think it was Image or something, but anyways, he kind of has like the savage dragon look.

He's an actual dragon, and in the movie Baymax, clearly they don't have that dragon look.

But Fred, who is stan Lee's son, you find out at the end Fred the comic guy.

He wears this Godzilla lizard suit and he also talks about wanting the ability to transform, and that's because the original Baymax in Big Hero six is this guy that can transform into a dragon.

So Fred represents the connection between what Disney has made for Big Hero Sex and what the real Big Hero six from Marvel is, and Fred is that that exact conduit, which is why he's the one that's the real Baymax, like Fred is is bay Max if you were to look at it through the Marvel lens, but through the Disney lens, you would think bay Max is this weird personal companion healthcare bot.

I looked at I'm looking at the cover, which actually it's Sunfire and Big Hero six, although Sunfire is one of the six, Yes he is, so we got who's who's on Silver Samurai Go Go, Tomago, Honey, Lemon, Hero, Takachiko Chiho.

I Help, and mister and mister Oshima is like the guy that runs it all.

Yeah, and yes, Bmex just looks nothing like you would think he looks.

But the point was to actually get like the take the most obscure things so they wouldn't like step on, you know, Kevin Figee's toes, I guess as it's like, let's use some Marvel stuff, but something that he probably won't use, although then his next move is like, I'm gonna do Guardians of the Galaxy.

So they were having the same thoughts in the end and both were pretty successful.

I do kind of love the idea now that the first one of the first Walt Disney Marvel movies if you ignore the Avengers because it's got its own little asterisks, and this one doesn't mention Marvel at the beginning, and you don't get, like the Marvel opening seat exactly stan Lee showed up.

So but because stan Lee is at the end of it, and Stanley's son, Fred represents the original Big Hero Six, like the real comic series which went on for I want to say, like thirty issues or something.

It was not just like a little six issue run.

So he represents this connection.

So the part that I love is that there's there's kids that are falling in love with Big Hero Six that will maybe at one point in their lives then discover Silver Samurai and then realize Silver Samurai was the real inspiration.

So essentially Silver Samurai would have been Hero's brother that dies, and that gets even deeper.

I'm gonna get into that in a little bit.

But but he's Silver Samurai because he was kind of the liters.

And he shows up in that Wolverine movie from what two thousand or whatever it was, nine ten, I don't remember years of all.

It don't make sense anymore.

The Wolverine movie where he goes to Japan.

That's not as good as the comic.

Right, No, I just pretend that doesn't exist.

The comic book is so superior, especially in that run while he's in Japan.

It's got that cool bullet train fight though it does have that going for it in the movie.

Here's another connection Honey Lemon, and they don't really go into the other people on this team, like you meet the characters, there's a Honeylemon in here.

But she's just this lady that's in a lab and now she's wearing Heroes suit and she can do cool stuff.

But her original invention in the Marvel Big Hero six was that she created these microscopic wormholes, and you could put a whole bunch of these microscopic wormholes in a certain place and be able to just kind of like store things and pull things back out in a purse.

So she had something called a power purse, which has a Joe that I'm not going to get into right now because off time.

But Honey Lemon's power purse was basically Mary Poppins purse.

And so like here's like another weird connection where Disney's like we have someone, we have someone with a scientific Marvel comic book version of what Mary Poppins had it was.

It's I almost feel that there could be a Mary Poppins Honey Lemon crossover at some point.

Now I have to talk a little bit more about dryme On.

That's the robot cap from the future.

It doesn't have ears.

I mentioned where his collar looks a little bit like Bamax one.

That series is weirdly like you'd look at it and you're thinking of something like, you.

Know, like not Garfield, but uh, Felix, Felix, since we're talking about magic purses.

Yeah, anyway, he's got a pouch on the front of him where he can just pull any gadget you need out of.

So yeah, Felix.

I think Felix might have started that whole thing.

Okay, the visual aspect of having a magic bag that you can put big objects in, I'm pretty sure that's Felix the cat.

But yeah, drym On is a robot.

As I mentioned, he's got the pous that he can pull things out of.

He's got a door that goes to anywhere, so which I guess is like his personal wormhole.

So that might maybe the resonance with Jeff.

You know, because drama is very popular here, so maybe bay Max just kind of slips in right now.

It's just different enough that you don't notice, you know.

So here's the part that Disney did not adopt directly from the Marvel series that the original I think it was thirteen, but the fourteen year old boy hero he refuted in the comic book series.

He's still a genius, he's still his doogie howser battle black kid, but he refuses to join the team because he doesn't want to have anything to do with these guys.

And my impression is that the Marvel Big Hero six it's kind of like a suicide squad.

It's like a Japanese bad guy suicide squad where some of them are crazy, some of them are outlaws, but they're all getting a pass and they're getting resources because they're badasses and they know what they're doing.

And they want this thirteen year old kid to join, and he refuses to until his mother is kidnapped by the embodiment, an astral embodiment of those killed in Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

So I guess just like it gets dark pretty quick, but all the people that died in Hiroshima Nagasaki collectively kidnap his mom, and now he's like, all right, I need to get my mom back.

So this is how which is sort of the plot point of Professor Callahan losing his daughter to a different dimension.

Right, there's kind of that, a little bit of that going on.

But also instead of Hero losing his mom, the Hiroshima Nagasaki in the Disney movie, he loses his brother and his professor to an explosion.

And I almost feel that Disney took what really this was based on Hiroshima Nagasaki and all these people dying, and they're like, let's just make the explosion smaller.

Let's take the explosion that occurred on a city level and make it happen in a building level.

But it's essentially the same thing because now Hero is thrust into this hero's journey because of this explosion that took out everyone that he cared for, which I think is ultimately paying homage to the fact that it was originally Hiroshima Nagasaki.

I mean, this is kind of the possibly the loosest comic adaptation ever made.

I'm trying to think of one that's like less you know, fitting with the source.

There's a nineteen ninety Captain America where Steve Rodgers comes from La.

Yeah, I'd say that the Big Hero six is to Marvel what Super Mario Brothers two is to like Nintendo's Oh the.

Super Mario Brothers movie.

The the one with Mars movie is another good example where it was like one thing and then it turned into another thing.

That's a very enjoyable movie.

By the way, even though because you're look at that's not Super Mario.

What is this?

But it is it's it is pretty fun on its own terms.

Dennis Opera is King Koopa, now what's going on?

A true.

So I do recommend that one.

But yeah, that's not a comic adaptation, it's a video game adaptation.

So I think Big Hero because in that Captain America, the nineteen ninety one with a JD.

Solinger's son plays Steve Rodgers.

That's weird.

Uh.

Anyway, that's this one fits even less because we at least get Captain America and something that resembles a Captain America costume in there where like you said, Beamax is a freaking dragon, which we do see, but it's not Bamax here.

Right, it's Fred the guy that represents the link between the comic book world of Big Hero six and the Disney world.

One more, one more Drymon thing where here where Baymax's boy companion is a genius, and Drymon his ten year old companion, Nobida, is a complete moron.

He fails all of his tests and can't do anything.

Drymon has to save him from all, you know, most situations.

So he's a shingy, yes, except dumber the whole nobody is supposed to be like real dumb, you know, like an amusing well he he has a big dumb friend that's even dumber, so like, you know, like that can't talk right, you know, because nobody at least can talk well or talk correctly is.

Talk proper, damn it?

And also, I do I wish that more writers and TV producers and showrunners had the courage to put dumb kids in shows, because it's almost like every kid and every show now is some kind of freaking genius, some kind of prodigy.

Like there was a lot of dumb kids when I grew up, and I feel like they probably could also be in shows.

That's one of the reasons that I like The Country Bears more than I should the movie.

I mean, because the kid everyone dumb.

Yeah, well, the human kid was smart but annoying, and then the uh and then the bear child was dumb through the entire movie.

He never gets smarter in the movie.

You know, he's dumb through the whole thing, which is fun.

Well, here's another example.

There's not a single dumb person in this entire movie.

Every single person is some sort of a genius.

I don't think I can say you're wrong, but I did feel the need just to quickly look over the cast list with no dummies.

Yeah, because even Fred isn't dumb.

He's just an idiot.

There's a difference.

He's a Fred.

He's kind of like a stoner comic book nerd, but he's still working for DARPA.

He could be the man in the chair for sure.

The police department, are they dumb?

Sure, Yama the gangster, is he dumb?

Yeah?

I guess so.

But I mean, but if he's the bad guy at the very beginning that they're portraying as he would hurt a child, then I guess he's supposed to be dumb, because if he was smart enough, he would have just hurt hero and there would be no movie.

They do find that dumb room near the end of the movie where they find where the experiment had happen, and they have those stargates.

It looks like Montague getting wrong, and so you know, I hear around military base just not in for anyone that didn't catch it.

I described it as a psychedelic cloud realm.

So yeah, oh, that's their dimension I'm talking about when they first find it, like the laboratory where they did the experiment, and then they turn back on then they go into the weird psychedelic cloud realm.

It reminded me of a level of Psychonauts.

I don't know if you've ever played that game.

I did, actually, but it's been quite a while.

That sounds about right, okay, I know I was like I think I was like, give me the most psychedelic game you can, and then someone maybe play a bit of psycho Knots.

So yeah, well yeah, because Psychoonots is legitimately a good game, and then it also happens to be very psychedelic.

And most of the time you'll find a game that like they leaned all the way into psychedelic and then you're like, oh, wait, wasn't am I supposed to be having fun here or just having like a quick twenty minute experience.

Yeah, there's a fine line.

I can tell you games.

I got steam gifted a few games a few months ago, but I don't play games on my laptops.

I haven't really played them, but you can tell me if any of these are or worth having a look into.

Co parbly the worst person for this, but go the worst plays.

When I got Grindstone Portal, I know what portal is, I just don't played it.

Bro Force Pony Island Undertail, I don't know.

Yeah, bro Forces classic eighties arcade shoot them up kind of style.

So if you like the like it's kind of contra.

It's a little bit like Contra Undertail is supposed to be in any yes style like Final Fantasy one, Final Fantasy two kind of game.

But woke.

Okay, just to make it seem like I didn't go completely off topic.

Baymax Video Games is big here a six battle in the bay attend to three DS and DS I doubt it's good.

Okay, there you go, now we're back on track.

Yeah, I just yeah, I started the Tangent.

On the Tangent, it seems they never made a particularly good.

You can play Bamax on Fortnite, but you can play everybody on Fortnite.

I think, can't you like you?

And I should be on Fortnite at this point.

I think I might be.

I think someone put me on Fortnite.

Oh okay, there we go.

See I wasn't being sarcastic again.

I live in Japan.

I don't do sarcasm anymore.

For the most part, I don't get sarcasm either.

That that sometimes, Yeah, I'm gullible as hell.

Now, So you said that bay Max has got a resurgence in the last five years in Japan.

Is is there a reason?

Are they coming out with like a sequel they're going to be pushing soon?

Or like why why only five years ago and not when the movie?

Actually, like I.

Said, I think the ride helped.

They made a big push on merch and it really seems to have been successful.

Right.

I've been seeing a lot.

Like teaching kids, I see a lot more Baymax.

I mentioned.

I got the girl that I teach on Wednesdays, and half the time she shows up wearing a have it with a Baymax bag, Baymax shirt and uh yeah, just tons of Baymax stuff.

So I think it's probably the ride and the actual latter day push.

It doesn't sound like a sequel, is like super in the work, so I'm sure it's on their mind, but maybe it's not the priority because it's I mean, you know, Utopia two just came out big.

Here of six was successful.

It one like Zutopia successful.

Oh yeah, And I never did the numbers on this one.

I should probably do that.

What do we got?

I guess scroll up for that though?

Who was this made for?

Was this made for like Asian market first and then American market secondary?

Or do you think that this was still made mostly for America?

I think this is one of those times where the word four quadrant probably was spoken in their boardrooms a lot.

Okay, it has that vibe to it.

You know.

The girls might like it too, because Baymax is cute, which is true.

A lot of girls, A lot of the people dancing around the ride are you know, high school girls, right, so the girl with all the Bamax merch, you know, so Japan particularly, it did kind of catch with some girls too, it, I guess did their four quadent thing?

One's sixty five on the budget six to fifty seven point eight million on the box office.

California Adventure I think recently converted their San Francisco area to send from Tokyo, which I don't know if that's finished or not.

I've never been to California Adventures, so I know that they're pushing the bay Max button.

They're a little harder too.

I feel that this movie too.

I mean, great, if they made profit on it, I'm sure they're very happy about that.

But also this solidifies Disney putting their actual toe into the healthcare industry.

Because you're going to have children right now that grew up that saw Bamax.

You know when they were like I don't know, between five and ten, what ten years ago, fifteen years ago, and now when they get older, especially as they get old enough that they'll be in the hospital most time, when they get into like their seventies, eighties, and nineties, Like I could legitimately see Disney rolling out real Baymaxes.

It doesn't seem like technology.

It is completely infeasible to exist.

And this just feels like they're slowly dialing that up a little bit so that they can reposition themselves into a more active healthcare role.

Have you heard of I need to look up the name to make sure I have it right.

A Katino.

Do you know what Katino is?

Katino?

I don't think so.

No.

Oh, okay, first I just want to go back just a little bit in San fran Tokio Square at California Adventure actually opened two years ago.

But it doesn't have a ride.

It just has a bakery tour and a Carl Strauss brewing company and a couple of other restaurants.

It just has restaurants.

So no, no ride, Katino.

And this is something actually we should maybe looking to more.

Is near Palm Springs.

It's a planned community by Disney which is going to have story living so you can pay like, however what exorbitant amount and go live in the desert and be surrounded by princesses all day.

I guess like they have a house theme to the the par house.

And how do you tell this, Katina?

Coo T I n O.

So yeah, Katina, And yeah, it's so this is Disney.

I mean maybe it's like they're like looking at their forecast and you know what, these these parks and movies are going to be failing twenty minutes in the future.

Maybe we should get in the real estate.

Maybe that's a place.

You know, Hey, you're having story living.

Here's a Baymax robot that'll pump you with some oxy cont.

I mean here, he just has to show you the little chart.

You point to the ten on the pain scale and you're good to go.

That's right.

It's like that little button they give you in the hospitals or whatever.

But yeah, so that actually is a phase because they that's Katino is considered to be part of the Disney theme park system.

So it's not like Liberation where it's like, well, let's make a town and we'll play in the community.

It's like this, this is a theme park you could live in.

That means that there's a Club thirty three Katino.

Oh well, I think if you live in Katino you probably have enough money to have a.

Club maybe, but every different park has its own Club thirty three membership.

I think the whole maybe the whole place is the Club thirty three.

I was actually, I'll shout out.

I was listening to podcasts the Ride where they did an episode about this recently.

That's why I'm bringing up.

And the guy tried to go.

He calls to like, hey, you know, can I get a tour because you can't just walk around.

It's an actual gated community.

Right, They're like, no, maybe called the night before, it calls the night before.

No he shows up.

No, we'll show you the movie.

So he gets to see the movie, which he said he was entertained by what he saw at the preview center, but just trying to get a tour of the place apparently was like near impossible.

I mean, I still think that they would have their own Club thirty three, which just means it's even more exclusive.

Oh right, okay, like Club thirty three.

Four of the Club thirty three members, it's like Club six sixty six.

Maybe that's what I caught.

Oh the other thing, and let's let's credit the podcast the right.

This is fun.

They were talking and they had this is not a conspiracy show at all, but they brought up the thing.

Did you guys even here the Smoke Tree Ranch?

Before about five years ago, the idea maybe like dies he kind of started just showing what with the pin Smoke Tree Ranch.

Oh, Smoke Tree Ranch is a thing.

So now people are like, oh, yeah, we want to go live in this kind of ranch in the desert, you know.

Like it's kind of warm and people like to planting it.

It'll be like when Watt had a smoke tree ranch.

And I mean, we've brought it up before on this show, right, but they're like, you got me, and I'm like, well, I didn't hear about that until somewhat recently.

I think.

So they were joking and there might not be any real smoke to that fire, but it did cross the mind.

You know.

I do able to plant that as a memory for everyone.

I do like it in this like story, storybook living or whatever they call it, that you could get a no mobile to come and pick you up.

Oo hey, you know why not?

They got to come up with stuff.

The other thing they mentioned in the episode, he was like, my wife and I we wouldn't want even if we had the money.

We went.

We want to live there now.

We want to live there in twenty years when Disney sold it, it's all run down and weird.

You have pennies on the dollar too.

Yeah, it's like, you know, like another salt and sea sort of situation maybe Disney is constructing for themselves.

They build a giant fake lagoon as well, with like it's like chlorinated or something.

There's an interesting rabbit hole to go down on Disney real estate, because I remember when we watched The Haunted Mansion and they were real estate dealers in the movie and they were selling some house and the house was a real address, and you could actually go and rent the house right now.

And it's within driving distance from Disney.

So it's an entirely themed Disney Haunted mansion house not licensed by Disney, but that you can stay there and then go to Disney.

Like just Disney acknowledging places and locations, creates like its own little community.

Well like on their on Disney's cruise ships things they do, and I know they've they have like some crazy haunted mansion bar with lots of like special effects and things like on the ship.

You know, so they you know, because you're on the Disney cruise, you gotta see the show.

You got to see something that feels like a miniature ride, don't you.

They don't have the casinos, so you're not doing that, are you a.

Disney adult, Well We've got the perfect thing for you.

Just because they have like Margaritaville retirement communities, it does seem like a Disney Margaritaville would make more.

Sense that might be what Catino basically is, you know, except that you're not going to put like the swing or loofahs on your doors or whatever it would.

I think they still would through the swinger loofahs, although I don't know Disney does such a really they spend a lot of time and resources separating themselves from death, and I don't know how you start a retirement community and not start to become associated with death.

So Katina, I don't believe is supposed to be a retirement company.

But when it's like n Palm Springs and it costs that much money, it feels like the facto would be one.

You know, we'll see, we'll keep an eye on the place, so you know, I feel like we're going to be watching a fascinating failure.

Though I don't see how that place could work.

Have there ever been Has there ever been a thematic retirement community that works?

I mean, I guess the best example is probably something like the Villages here in Florida, right outside Disney, but it's not really Disney theme.

And then you've got place called champions Gate, which is also like a fifty five and only community.

It might as well be on Disney property.

It's so damn close to it, but still it's not really themed.

You might have some roads that are named a certain way, but to fully go all out like a like again, like a Margaritaville retirement community, where everything is themed a very certain way.

But then you check back in on them after like fifteen twenty years, and it just keeps getting more and more generic as time goes on.

And I don't know if if Disney would be able to allow that to happen, because and now, if you've got a dilapidated, bleached generic Disney thing, it'll start looking like all those other generic Disney places all over the world that they spend so much time trying to get taken down.

Maybe that's why they build it in the desert.

You can memory hold that if you need to.

I'm trying to look up Cotino Rancho Mirage a New Era of Luxury Living.

I was trying to look up their street names, but I'm looking at a plant a legend, and I can only see the streets around it, but not the streets in there.

So okay.

Anyway, Usually by this point, I'm like, Hey, is there any you know so conspiracy stuff?

You want to pull a thread on and we've done a lot of that already, I think in this one.

But if you got something we have not hit, you know, go for it.

I think my big one really was just that this movie is like a kid friendly version of Hiroshima and Nagasaki Explosion.

It just localizes it down on like a micro level.

But I think I really do think that that's not just me putting this on here.

This is the writers trying to figure out how to capture some of the seriousness of the original Marvel series and then put it into this movie.

Considering that they're making an animated you know, for Quadrant Disney film, I'd say they actually did a pretty good job with that, you know, just focusing on Beamax as this new character.

Pretty good job, doesn't I mean that point, it's not really an adaptation at all anymore.

So you've now created a new character that just shares the name of you know, someone else.

Yeah, I'm conflicted.

I mean, it's not like we we ever have to sit here and actually do like a movie review of these.

We just kind to point out all the interesting side details that you might not know otherwise.

But like review wise, it's a great movie.

It's a serviceable movie.

But if it's supposed to be an ensemble movie, I don't really remember or care about any of the characters other than Bemax.

So yeah, because I feel like this one could have a sequel that's better than this one.

Yeah, recket Ralph, we got Vanilla Pee, we got fixed at Felix, we got King Candy, there's lots of memory.

We got the the I don't remember Jane was it?

The uh?

The the military space marine?

Who's hut?

And recket Ralph is was is a genius way of approaching this because within each game, each game can have a badass or two or three, right, and in this movie it's just Baymax, and he's not really necessarily a badass.

He's just like a big marshmallow.

No.

I was looking through the voice cast, I was like, oh, go Go Lemon was in this?

What do you know?

I didn't even notice limit go Go Go Go.

There.

I've forgotten the name already.

Go Go Curry is a restaurant.

He is in Japan, by the way, And isn't isn't Tomago like a sam oh Tomago's egg?

Oh?

Just a regular egg.

Okay, So her name is go Go Egg.

Yeah, basically yes, yeah, I mean we got Gyu to Tama.

That's a Sonrio character that's like a sleepy egg yolk.

If you've seen Tama.

Well, I have to cover that on the next episode.

Yeah, I guess when you start wrapping this one up then a lot here.

Yeah, I guess it is a little more insidious that though.

That is just kind of like kind of like if a programming kids with Disney movies, it's like, well, here, here's the foundation of your techno reality where you know, get ready.

Yeah, yeah, again, since it was based on that World War two I still think that I don't care what the writer's room came up with and said nineteen o eight and they had a resurgence after No, this is a World War two movie, and it's about the Nazis winning, and it's about Japan taking over America and forcing us to fight robots with each other.

That's essentially what this movie is about.

It's better than Man in the High Castle TV show.

Book's great, by the way, but yeah, the TV show I got real boring real quick, at least for me.

Maybe there's the defenders of the show.

Not here.

Yeah, I know, someone that worked on the pilot, but then they didn't rehire them for the rest of the series, so don't I don't care.

Screw that was the pilot was great.

Yeah, that's one of those ones where I was like, because I love the books, I watched a pilot About two episodes later, one it's like, well, this isn't the book, and two this isn't that interesting, and I just kind of gave up.

You know why, because the most interesting outcome already happened America one World War two and nothing bad happened and we weren't involved putting it off.

No, no, of course America.

Yeah.

Oh that diffused one thought I had, yep, yep, you mine wiped me.

Oh well that's what America does best, so you're welcome.

Got mine wiped?

Oh oh well, what was going to be interesting?

Final thoughts?

Or do we roll into plugging it?

Yeah?

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