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April Winchell (Mickey Mouse Clubhouse, Who Framed Roger Rabbit)

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Speaker 1

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Speaker 2

It's me Bunkers keep Bobcat All right, y'all?

Speaker 3

Is it great?

Speaker 1

Your favorite firefly you desire?

Hold old knock Gud.

My name is Jim Cummings and welcome to tuned In.

Speaker 4

Welcome back, everybody, do another episode of Tuned In with Jim Cummings.

I'm producer Chris, joined as always by the legend himself, mister Jim Cummings.

Speaker 3

How are you doing today, sir?

Speaker 1

Fantastic?

I've never been better.

Boy.

Are you in for a treat?

Speaker 4

I hope absolutely?

And you go away back so I'll let you do the introduction for this one.

I think that's appropriate.

Speaker 1

It is so true today today you have a very rare treat.

I'm going to keep that from making noise high.

And her name is April, April Winchell.

She has been everything that you can do.

She has won every award that there is to win, by the way, except the Academic Oscar, which is from the Academic Special Academy.

And we go way back.

I was friends with her dad.

I've been friends with her forever in a day, And I'm going to say we first met at one of your previous incarnations as an advertising executive.

Is that true?

That's shy day.

Speaker 2

So I met you before goof Troop, I guess.

Speaker 1

So, yeah, back when I was one of her fierce minions selling cars.

Yeah, I don't know where, Well, the hell with them.

I wasn't one of the minion men, and so who cares.

I was an actual minion of hers.

And I'm just so damn happy to see you, buddy.

It's been a while, been a stack.

Speaker 2

Of years, not too long, but big, it's like five.

Speaker 1

Years, yeah, something like that.

Yeah, we just so happened, and it was at a comic con and I really liked doing them, and you know, and they'll give you a couple of bucks to take home, so there's nothing wrong with that.

And I've been encouraging this one to come and let them love you, as you have said.

I remember you introducing it.

Probably was oh gosh, it was on a show Wet World that never went anywhere, and you were Connie Fortuna, and well, that's okay, we never we didn't sell it.

Yeah, it was just like a fake pilot and you were Connie Fortuna and you were encouraging eg Daily as your daughter to go out on stage and you said, go, my dear, go let them love you.

And that was like the most show busy thing I could see, Liza Minelly and Judy Garland, you know, doll it.

Yeah, exactly, you know, it just had that feel.

Speaker 2

I don't remember that at all.

It's very weird, isn't it.

When sometimes people come up to me at you know, convention, the Burbon They'll say like, oh, I loved you and you know, Once upon a Dumpster whatever the hell the movie is, and I'm like, I was not in that.

Oh you were.

You were you were the talking toast and you were like, oh I love the jam and I was like, that's not I swear to God, that's not me.

No, it's you, it's you.

And then you go home and you go, oh, oh, I guess I wasn't or dine, I said your DVD, am I am, I I'm not it.

Oh I amn't.

Speaker 1

I'm like, no, you too?

Speaker 2

Huh Yeah, well yeah, I mean it's it seems like that would be insane for that to be a thing, But when you work for years and years and years, you just kind of forget.

I forget.

Speaker 1

It all blends together a little bit.

Yeah.

I thought I was Rob Paulson for a year.

You too too.

Speaker 2

And I didn't have any money, so I couldn't have.

Speaker 1

Been for those days are gone.

Speaker 2

Yeah that's true.

Speaker 1

Yeah, amen, many days, thank you?

Yes, and and uh and we're both still here.

Speaker 2

That's the word part.

Speaker 1

That's always a good sign.

Speaker 2

Yeah, it's good.

Speaker 1

But it's weird.

It's weird.

Yeah, it's weird.

Yeah.

Yeah, well I remember, nobody plans on getting older when they're young.

That's the thing of it.

Speaker 2

That's why you're so crappy to old people, right of them.

And one day, oops, I forgot to die and now you're old.

Speaker 1

Yeah yeah, that's right.

Yeah.

And my left knee keeps reminding me exactly.

Speaker 2

Tell if I saw like a bag of microwave popcorn when I stand up everywhere, it's great.

I love it.

I highly recommend aging.

Speaker 1

Yes, beats the crap out of I guess, yeah not aging, Yeah yeah yeah.

Well you know I'd rather have a ship ton of birthdays than one funeral.

Speaker 2

That's true.

Speaker 1

So there you have it.

You can down.

Speaker 2

You have tons of funerals.

Speaker 1

Oh yeah, all over for you.

Speaker 2

I have commemorative stamps.

The whole thing.

Speaker 1

It's happened.

And uh.

And I've often thought about being a Neptune society.

Since we're on this happy, happy subject.

Speaker 2

I've thought that too.

Speaker 1

Have you thought of that?

What do you think you gonna do it?

I don't know.

Speaker 2

I don't want to get depressing too late.

But you know, I had this thought not long ago that I was at a graveyard and I think herosa or something, just because of historical.

You're wanting it, So it was just a historical.

And I really like to look at all the old headstones and everything.

Speaker 1

Me too.

Speaker 2

I'm looking at headstone, I'm thinking, Okay, this person's gone, everyone who knew them is gone, and everyone who remembers them is gone.

So why are you taking up space?

Do you know what I mean?

So I thought at some point, you know, it's there's I'm like, not a legacy person.

That makes me tired?

Do they will?

Speaker 1

Who know?

Speaker 2

Because I think that's how you get old.

Speaker 1

You start thinking.

Speaker 2

About how could not that I haven't, but how do you keep everything exactly I was when I was young?

You know, that's how you start getting old, Like, well, you know, when I was a kid, I don't want to be Yeah, yeah, it's not my world, you know, I'm here for now.

Everything is rented.

The things do you think you own are rented?

Speaker 1

Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 2

So that control of how you're remembered or what happens to you, or what people are or even other things that are not related to you, like well, I liked the school system when I was a kid.

So it's like, who cares?

It's not you know, So yeah, to be here whatever it is that you're passionate about now, you know, dog gun it.

I want to bring back lunch counters.

Speaker 1

Okay?

Speaker 2

You know, so whatever it is you're plugged into, it's just transitory, you know.

So I'm not a Buddhist or anything.

It's like who cares where this goes?

Speaker 1

You know?

Right?

Well, you know twenty years after I'm dead, I'll still.

Speaker 2

Be dead, but people will remember you for a long time.

Speaker 1

People knock on wood, Yeah, thank you, well, thank goodness for cartoons.

But other than that, yeah yeah maybe yeah.

And then there'll be somebody coming along who's the new you and the new me, and we'll still be dead.

Speaker 2

We'll still be dead.

Speaker 1

Yeah.

Speaker 2

So I mean, what's the point of getting plugged into all the things that you can't control?

After not here cares?

Speaker 3

Would you say you're nihilistic?

Speaker 2

I don't know.

I think that's a pretty positive viewpoint in a way, that you're why do I need to protect something that is just remains or dust or it's like contribution is done, and if people remember, that's great.

But I don't.

I don't.

I'm not a big you know, like.

Speaker 1

Yeah, it feels weird to me.

Speaker 4

We were listening to your conversation on Smart Funny Torture podcast.

Speaker 2

That was great, great, Yeah, it was great.

Speaker 4

And you know for me personally, like doing my research on you for this podcast.

You know, I only really knew you from voice acting and listening to that podcast, and you know, finding out more about you.

I mean, your life's been like a movie.

It's just It's so fascinating all the different twists and turns and experiences that you've lived.

Speaker 2

I used to say that my life was a lot like magic, but without the laughs.

Do you remember that movie Oh.

Speaker 1

All that with Anthony We will make you one of us whatever he said, Yeah, that guy.

It wasn't really Well, it would be because it's interesting because of Knucklehead Smith and Jerry Mahoneys and others.

Speaker 2

But you know, I learned a lot from my father, h Because I mean I was telling this story recently about I don't know what I can say on your podcast, but anyway, I was telling the story about my dad.

Sure, and my dad was I was very small, I was like six, and I was in the kitchen and uh, I heard my dad could we could hear him getting upset in the other room, was watching TV, you know, and we hear like a crash, and my mom and I go in to see what's happened.

And he has picked up his shoe and he's thrown it at the television set, and he's got the other one in his hand, and he turns around.

He looks at us and he says, Jesus that hell, do you have to blow to get on get smart, which is like my favorite childhood memory.

But but what I learned from that.

Speaker 1

God, if I had a nickel.

Speaker 2

But what I learned from that, really, and why I seem to have so many lives, is because I never wanted to be in a position where I could not be creative without somebody else's permission.

My dad really fell apart when he wasn't working, and so I thought, I'm gonna just keep doing stuff and not wait.

And that's led to a lot of different you know, careers and things that I've developed or been able to sell or whatever.

And it's yeah, I like that.

I'd rather do that than be like I read for that like two weeks ago, you know, because it tortured him and I don't.

Plus now I don't have the energy anymore.

But we live in an age where YouTube is a thing and all these platforms are in this.

You know, you can do this and there's no excuse not to keep creating if you want to.

Speaker 1

You know.

Yeah, that's true.

Well, that's that's you all over my gosh.

I remember, well we're talking about it earlier.

When we met, I was you were shy at day, Big Big Time ad Agency writing really cool ads.

In fact, we were listening to one of them on the way over.

Speaker 3

Yeah it was the fire ant Killer.

Speaker 1

Oh that yeah, wonderful.

Speaker 2

That was really successful.

Speaker 1

Was free?

Speaker 2

All right?

So Mike and I my late great ex husband, Meg and I we were partners in advertising, yes, And we got word that we had won the one hundred thousand dollars Mercury Award for that right that spot, that radio spot for ant Killer.

And then we got word that we won another fifty thousand dollars prize at some other and we were like, this is incredible.

So we fly up pick it was great.

It was a great year.

We pick up our prize money.

We're feeling great.

I'm really fat at this point, right, so uh, we say, well, let's go somewhere for dinner.

Speaker 1

Let's go out.

Speaker 2

So they say, oh, go to La Bernadine.

It's really nice, you know.

So we go there.

We walk in and goes, I'm sorry, the sauces are sleeping, like, okay, well don't wake them.

You know, the sauces are sleeping.

So the kitchen's so I can't hope That's what I've always thought.

As we get ready to leave, and this guy stands up and he goes, hey, and I thought, oh, this is an ad guy who was at this award show right now.

He goes, oh my god, I love you.

I am so happy for your success.

I'm so please use so thank you, thank you, and I've got the award.

Look that's great.

That's great.

And I see this woman stand up and look at me and go like this, and I thought.

Speaker 1

That's going on.

Speaker 2

So I said, well, thank you.

He goes, I'm Lou Wasserman and I went wow.

Right, So then I'm thinking, how the big time guy know me?

And I thought, oh, the guy who we used in the spot is repped by William wats maybe he.

I had no idea, right, I said, Oh, it's very nice to meet you, because yeah, yeah, it's great.

You deserve all the success you in the world, and we are so excited to see you host the Tonys.

And I thought, oh my, oh boy, you think some Rosie O'donald Nod.

I was back and I thought, Okay, I can't say anything else, because then it'll be clear that I don't talk like you know.

Speaker 1

Yeah, I went.

Speaker 2

And you and I going to Europe tomorrow, and I went, I didn't have to say you know, I was like, oh my god, so that really tarnished that whole word.

That's like one of my lowest moments, you know.

Speaker 1

Oh my god, I got to go on a diet, so.

Speaker 2

Jesus was depressive.

Speaker 1

And then you did you and I I was I think I was waying Knight's character in Tarzan.

It wasn't and wasn't.

Speaker 2

I was rose O'donald.

Speaker 1

Yeah, and that was in Tarzan, folks.

Speaker 2

Just so you know, she looked back in history.

Speaker 1

Yes, back in history.

Everything they have is in history.

Yeah, I mean the ship I did Yesterday's so it's okay, it's not all bad.

Speaker 2

I really thought that I met you on goof Troop.

Speaker 1

But I knew before that.

Speaker 2

It was more like ninety three or something.

Yeah, yeah, something like that, and yeah, like ninety one.

Speaker 1

Yeah, yeah, it was a little earlier.

Yeah, I remember.

I remember I had actually given I saw the California you had Nissan dealer.

Speaker 2

There you go.

Well, yeah, yeah, I had actually given up voiceover.

At that point.

I had done it as a kid, I had had some success, and then I had just done Roger Rabbit and then I met Nick and Mick was like, oh, you should work in advertising, you'd be so good at it.

Wind doing that, well, I was lucky because it's just script, so I knew how to write those.

You know.

I couldn't do a print ad to save my life, but radio easy, and nobody wanted to do it.

Everybody wanted to do TV because it was more exciting, you know, And I was like, no, I want to do the spoken word and voiceover.

Speaker 1

Yeah.

Speaker 2

Yeah, So I'm doing that and I'm doing scratch tracks and submitting it and mixed.

Finally looks at me, goes, what don't you just tell these people that you're looking for an agent?

Speaker 1

I was like, oh no.

Speaker 2

At the time, it was very cool for add people to insert themselves into commercials, and that bothered me.

Like the voice of Carl's Junior, the guy that was like burgers and cooked.

That guy that was I think Andy Berlin from an ad agency, and I didn't want to be that guy.

You know, No, that's not who you are.

Speaker 3

You could.

Speaker 2

I was like, I really resisted, and finally he sent me and I got an agent and I got goof Troop like within two days.

Wow, that my entire life changed in that moment.

No, kid, so, and I always say everything good that I have I have because of him.

Speaker 1

So wow, yeah, thank you wherever you be.

Yeah, god bless Oh that's so cool.

Speaker 2

Yeah yeah, he really changed my life and that show changed my life.

And then from then it was just and then we did another one after that, Marsupalami was that.

Speaker 1

Yes, Raw Tunage, Raw Tunage did.

Speaker 2

I was your wife and you.

Speaker 1

Were Dyl Patel, Bill pikel Dill Kel and and of course the amazing peg Peg right, which is my wife's name, is really in real life.

Speaker 2

That's hilarious.

Speaker 1

Yes, thank god it's not Dil because that wouldn't be as much fun.

Yeah.

Yeah, so see, yeah, life imitating something something Yeah right, can't really go all the way to art, but yeah, life just imitating something something or other.

Yeah.

Oh man, oh man.

So what keeps you happy these days?

What keeps you running?

What I mean?

Other than that's a good question.

Speaker 2

Oh boy, it gets maybe not for everybody, it's harder.

It got harder for me to be happy.

You know, you get to an answer.

You have a lot of loss, and sure, you know, we lost, like this is a really depressing podcast, and I think about it.

We've lost like we lost like seven friends, my mother everybody, and like three years, four years, we lost all my all our dogs.

I mean, it was just like it was a lot.

And then we sort of like hit this and then my husband's best friend.

It was just too much and we just got very sad and we.

Speaker 1

Had I'm sorry, I know right when you say we who you're talking.

Speaker 2

About husband John.

So we had a few years that were really hard, and so we we said, I know, let's go to New York.

This is the chapter that we've always I've always wanted.

We're both from there.

Let's go back and have some resources and some energy.

You know, I'm going to have that chapter that I wanted, the stage chapter that I wanted, you know.

And so we get there, it becomes clear pretty quickly that Broadway has changed completely a lot.

Speaker 3

Yeah, and this is what ye're sorry, like two years ago.

Speaker 2

Okay, and so everything is kind of reimagined for you know, gender swapped casts or diversity or and I and I there was like a split second where I was like and I thought, oh, this is eminently fair.

This is eminently fair.

Speaker 1

You know.

Speaker 2

I I have all these opportunities I had.

I wasn't here.

I was doing advertising cartoons, I had a great I made a good choice, I had a great having a great career.

Everything's fine, and we just kind of recalibrated.

And you know, that's been a really important skill as I get older, as I kind of alluded to putting things in perspective and realizing that it's not you're not being targeted, you know what I mean, you're having singled out.

And so we let oh that we came back here.

And I didn't think I was going to come back here, but we did, and it's been it's been really good.

We've we made friends really fast.

That keeps me happy.

To rebuild your community that's sort of you know, diminished, that's great, you know.

And I live in a really fun part of town, and we went out Sunday, just walked down the street to the Pride part.

It was really fun to watch and it's just a oh my god, it's a crazy it's such fun.

And you know, I'm sitting there watching it getting a little choked up, you know, thinking about all the people that I know who sure aren't here anymore, who couldn't get married, you know, or the people that we know rioted and try to make these strides, and I feel and then I see these balloons come down the streets spelling out Disney, and I lost it.

I just cried my eyes out, and I felt so proud Disney to be working with Disney.

Yeah, I felt real good about that, and it was it just felt great, you know, and I felt I felt really good about it.

Speaker 1

Oh that's cool.

Yeah, it was nice, nice, nice nice.

Speaker 2

It's a lot fun to do down there too, Hollywood.

So walked to the Chinese Theater to see Matinees.

Oh my god, how fun is that?

The Egyptian, the El Capitan.

It's all right there.

Speaker 1

Yeah, I love the Egyptian.

I love the Al cap It's a really great, great place in Hollywood, y'all.

Speaker 2

Yeah, it's fun.

It's a good part of town to walk around, and I like it a lot.

Speaker 1

Yeah.

Nowadays it's it's a little safer too.

Speaker 2

A little bit.

I mean everything's a little sketchy, but it was a little yeah, you know.

I mean I wasn't here for COVID, but I know that kind of a lot of there's a lot of real estate and stuff like that.

Speaker 3

So I lived in Hollywood during COVID.

Speaker 4

Okay, yeah, I actually had a lot of fun, ye talk about it a lot, and it was one of the most creative points in my life.

And there was you know, there was a bunch of young people who still wanted to do stuff.

Speaker 1

Yeah.

Speaker 4

I was directing music videos at the time, shooting product videos that I'd never done before, and like it was it was really interesting.

Yeah, and there was tons of the best I'll tell you what the best part about show business during COVID was.

I'll tell you all right now, it was game shows.

It was game shows because they can only have like seven people on the prices, right, so like you were like guaranteed to win, and there's usually a rule.

There's usually a rule where you can only go on the same network at once every two years because they don't want the same people going.

Speaker 3

On and on and on.

They suspended it.

Speaker 4

Yeah, and then they told all of us because we're all local higher you know, it's like background work.

Yeah, and they're like tell us, like, say you're from where you're originally from, not like because we don't want everybody like from La from La from La, so like use like an ancestor or something.

Yeah, you're not all from LA for these ones.

Speaker 2

Did you win?

Speaker 1

Oh yeah, yeah, yeah he did.

Speaker 4

Barbecue, set, TV's lamps, a trip to Thailand.

Yeah, tons of stuff, tons of stuff.

And I told all my friends too, I was and they didn't believe me.

And I was like, I know the casting director for all these shows, she needs people to go on.

And then sure enough they're like, oh yeah, see we didn't.

We didn't go on.

All of them ended up going on, and all of them except for one one.

Speaker 2

Vegas was pretty fun during COVID too.

I have to Vegas was fundering.

I'm living Vegas during COVID.

It was really fun because it was all closed.

You could just like tool down the strip and it was pretty fun.

Speaker 1

It's all it was closed or just produced.

Speaker 2

Do you just go down there?

Well, for a long time it was just closed.

You just go down there.

People were riding bikes down said down the strip.

It was pretty fun.

Speaker 1

That would be surreal.

Speaker 2

It was surreal.

I have videos on my phone.

Speaker 1

Of that that was like, uh, like after the Holocaust.

Speaker 2

Nuclear exactly, Zombie Vegas apocalypse, yes, redundant.

Speaker 1

Yeah, I was gonna say, that's going on now, isn't this going?

Speaker 2

About three o'clock in the morning is when that starts.

Speaker 1

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Speaker 4

Well, you're you're a very creative person and you've gone down a bunch of creative avenues.

How do you express that when you were a child?

Speaker 2

Oh well, that's actually how I got into voiceover, really, because my parents gave me tons and tons of spoken word records.

So I listened to comedians, cool plays, to old my dad's old radio shows me he was on Jack Benny and listened to it like all the and I'd listened to it and I'd think, what action is happening on stage right now?

That's making people laugh?

Like I really liked filling it in.

I got very interested in spoken word radio, theater, all that stuff.

And then they started giving me stand up comedian albums, and one of them was Shelley Berman, who oh sure, I got to work with him on the Blues Brothers cartoon, and I was staying, I remember who were you most excited to work with it.

I was like, oh, Brock Peters and they're like, who, Like, yeah, Rock Peters and Shelley Berman.

They're like okay.

I was like, I was star struck, you know.

So they give me the album and I start memorizing it because I'm listening to records all day.

I'm little, I'm like five or six and listening.

I have no idea what I'm memorizing.

I don't know why it's funny, but I understand the timing and I get that there's laughs, and I know, hold forth, I'm just mimicking, right.

So I went out into the lunai.

They had like a Hawaii kind of lunai and itsino with the floats on the wall, you know, and then the fishing nets and everything.

And my dad would sit out there with the ukulele and drink beer with ice in it.

Right, So I would go out there when they had friends over.

They'd say, Okay, it's bedtime, you have to go to bed.

I'd say, okay, okay, my real thick New York accent and a lisp, right, Okay, but let me just say something first, and they're like, all right, what And I did the whole routine, say lady, what are you doing on the flag pole?

And they're like, and I have it down.

I got his inflection everything, and I finished and they said, okay, you can stay up a little later.

Speaker 1

Oh that was like.

Speaker 2

My first introduction to the benefits of being a bunny, and.

Speaker 1

I got really hooked.

Speaker 2

I was hooked a real interesting listen to a lot of records, and then my dad gave me a little well at the time, it wasn't even a cassette.

It was a little real to reel recorder, right, like sixty five or thing, no kidding, and we would I found these tapes of us reading scripts together and acting together.

And he says, he goes, let me do well, we're doing three three the Bad Wolf and Little Red riding hut.

People are your host?

I said, no, that's not the boy.

You're not supposed to do that.

He's like, oh, I'm sorry, let me look like he was being really like straight.

It's very fun.

So I'm doing this and I'm doing a lot of like terrible celebrity impressions in my bedroom from little right.

Speaker 1

And well that a new character.

I should do that.

That's what I did.

Speaker 2

Wait here at the at the Holiday the Groundman's Chinese Theater at the premiere is this here comes May West.

You know, hey, I mean to come up and see me if I'm doing this horrible shit I've just heard on records, right right, right.

So a couple of years later, about ten, now I'm with my dad at Bell Sound and I don't remember what the show was that he was doing.

And I'm in the hallway and I'm seeing all the celebrities, you know, and I'm right to do their voices quietly, like a lesson doing imitations and stuff.

Speaker 1

I have a list biting all their pictures.

Speaker 2

But I'm doing all this right.

Speaker 3

Well.

Speaker 2

Apparently Don Pitts, who was my dad's agent at Charles Stern, overheard this and he went to my dad and he said, is your kid interested in voiceover?

Because they were at the time it was vogue to use kids to do kids, you know, like I'm Peanuts.

Now it's like I'm forty and I don't need a social worker.

You know, you do you like six boys?

Speaker 3

Yeah?

Speaker 2

So he goes, well, I'm sure she would because she was on my show in New York.

I was a Jack Parr stuff like that, so they asked.

I was like, yeah, that sounds fun, and I read for it and I got it, and I got my Union card when I was eleven.

Speaker 1

No kidding, wow, And I worked pretty.

Speaker 2

Steady until I was about twenty eight when I did Roger Rabbit and I was like, yeah, I wanted to say I do I'm gonna.

Speaker 3

Do advertising now, Oh yeah, what what was the switch in your head?

Speaker 2

I think I hit that place where it was not easy anymore, and I started to panic that I was going to get into that position where I couldn't do anything creative unless somebody gave me permission to do that, which I've already learned not to do.

So I'm gonna choose something else.

And I just went off the page and did something a lot of fun.

It was very creative.

I made good money one prize.

I met great people, you know.

Speaker 1

Yeah, well well they met you too, so yeah, yeah, well you were a writer, producer, you had a lot of hats.

Speaker 2

Yeah, it was fun.

Speaker 1

Yeah.

Speaker 2

I don't have that kind of energy anymore, but at the time, yeah, And then those Glendale Federal commercials were really popular in the ninety which ones they were Glendeale Federal.

There was another one of the cases where I pitched it to the agency and they said, well, let's use you and I was like really and it was me and it was just me complaining about my bank.

It was like I did like a one or two a week because I was writing them was so fast, so anytime somebody a bank did something that we wanted a counterpoint, I was in the studio right And they got very popular and the agency started playing them during rush hour, so all the executives were hearing them.

And I got a call out of nowhere from Jeff Wald.

Do you remember Jeff Wald.

He was married to Helen Ready for a while he was like a use her and he had kind of a bad reputation.

And Mick was like, my husband was like, go take every meeting.

Speaker 1

Go look.

Yeah.

Speaker 2

So I went and meet him and he was like, we'd like you to write for Roseanne and I went mm hmm, okay.

I mean I always say yes before I can think about it and talk myself out of it, and then later I'm like, I can't juggle you know that kind of ye.

Speaker 1

Can't juggle, Wait, juggle flaming torches.

Speaker 2

When you're young, you'll do it right.

Speaker 5

Sure.

Speaker 2

When I did Roger Rabbit, Reuben Cannon called me.

I was working at.

Speaker 1

A right at a I remember.

Speaker 2

Him, stenographer kind of situation.

Speaker 1

I was.

Speaker 2

I was a trans what's the word when you're transcribing a slip and fall cases?

Right like she claimed that she slept on though she slipped on the wet wood.

But we know there's you know that kind of stuff.

We saw her so bro soon investigation.

She's at Disneyland without a neck brace.

Speaker 1

I'm ting, yeah, right right, yeah, she was out.

Speaker 3

She was.

Speaker 2

So I got missus Herman and Roger Rabbit, you know, the mom and a good boy.

And so I got that and they called.

Ruben Cannon calls me.

He goes, can you do a baby?

Speaker 1

And I went sure, you know because why you know.

Speaker 2

He goes, can you do it for me right now?

And I was like, I'm at work, you know, I'm like yeah, yeah, okay.

So I locked myself in the fireroom and he goes, Okay, he goes, it's not talking, it's just crying.

I'm like, all right, I'm doing all the baby Herman, yeah, all stuff.

He goes Okay, can you cry like screaming in the fireroom?

Right, He's like, okay, you got I'm like great, I got two voices in the movie.

You know, I got the phone.

I opened the door and everybody in the office is like, what what the hell?

Why is she screaming like a baby in the closet?

Speaker 3

Man?

Speaker 2

And then I quit because I had a job.

Speaker 1

But yeah, well you were a big time show is oh man?

Yeah, I remember auditioning for Reuben Cannon.

Yeah, Roger Rabbit.

You know.

I was bullet number two.

And what pissed me off is and we spent the whole night in Griffith Park doing all these I was a ton of weasels, I was.

Speaker 2

I was like, well, three that should be the line under your name, Jim coming a ton.

Speaker 1

Of weasels, Yes, rest in peace and uh so.

But yeah, and then they cut everything.

Yeah, but I still had my three lines as bullet number two, and I was the Andy Devine bullet.

Speaker 2

Oh my pat did you know that?

Speaker 1

Pet?

Speaker 2

But yes, I'm from the world where it's always somebody.

Speaker 1

Else because I and I've got it.

I've got it on the mantle at the house over that the script I embossed it or did whatever you did to scripts.

And and I've got his his his autograph on there, and it's a GM shoot low.

They might be crawling and and so that was Sage's advice.

Speaker 2

And it's kind of pat butchering, but without the yeah similar, isn't it?

Yeah, but the clarava on it.

Speaker 1

Oh oh clara b yeah, little clarava.

But he told me all these stories about do you know what give me three good men and a buck board means and I'll meet you at the station.

And I said no, he goes, God damn it.

I don't either, And I must have said that in fourteen goddamn movies.

I said, oh okay.

And then now you know and I said, and but you were gene Autry's uh we were a sidekick.

You were like big with geen Autry goes, oh yeah.

And every time I'd go to Sportsman's Lodge, I said, I'd say, well, has anybody here seen gene Autry?

And he goes, you're standing on them.

So that was good, you know, I mean, is he buried there?

No?

He was.

He was indulging.

So he was tired.

Speaker 2

Oh I see, I thought he was tired.

Speaker 1

He had to take a little break, you know, so, but yeah, it was it was interesting.

Speaker 2

Oh man, man, so I see you have fun facts about me.

I don't think I'm doing fun.

Speaker 1

So I was.

I was flirting with the idea of not even doing that because we could just talk about crap that we've done.

But I did not know that you were someone called Helen Killer.

Speaker 2

Helen Killer.

Speaker 1

Yeah, and that for regrets.

Speaker 2

Yeah, do you know about that?

Speaker 1

I'm reading about it, I know, and I heard that that way over rather well it did.

Speaker 2

It was weird, you know.

I see, I was in one of those phases where I'm not doing anything.

That's That's how I got a radio show on CA.

Speaker 3

Can you explain regrets?

Speaker 2

For That's how I got a radio show on I got it.

They were on strike and I was like, well, I don't find something to do.

So I called over there can I have a show?

And they're like, A, okay, I mean it's you know, you.

Speaker 1

Never know what let's you're askf I right.

Yeah.

Speaker 2

So this was one of those periods where there's nothing going on, and I thought, God, it'd be really funny to do a site just making fun of Etsy, just making fun of the whole handmade ethos because I found it so amusing, you know, And so I put up some stuff and made some jokes, and within seventy two hours I had ninety two million hits.

Whoa completely blew my mind.

I had a book deal like in two days.

It was crazy.

So it turns out, and I didn't know this, but it was a perfect storm because you're not allowed to complain on Etsy, they'll just close you down.

So people were on Etsy going in their forum saying, well, why is this person who's clearly not making handmade stuff?

Because at the time they were pretending to be handmade, they're not anymore.

Why are that?

Am I competing with a factory in Taiwan?

Shut you down?

Close your account?

No criticism allowed it saw me.

They came over there and it just became a clearing house for do it yourself angst.

And I was like, well, okay, you know, and I just made fun of stuff for a couple of years and I got a book deal and got really popular, and then I thought, you know what, let's the most popular, super weirdly popular.

And also it was kind of like, at the end of popular websites, doesn't not really like that so much anymore, you know, like the people of Walmart and these old ones that people just what are they doing today?

It's not like that now.

So it got super popular and I thought, well, let's use I called it reducing my asshole footprint is how I called it.

I said, let's do good things for charity.

So we monetized everything and we raised I think like three hundred thousand dollars for charity and for people like crafters who needed sewing machines and that kind of stuff.

We put kids through school.

Speaker 1

All that was.

It's kind of cool.

Speaker 2

It was cool until I started getting like a very unpleasant stalker and bad shit going on on Twitter, and I was like, you know what, no more social media out.

So I just stopped doing all of it.

No kidding, I don't miss it at all.

I have social media in like ten years since.

Speaker 1

Oh yeah, it's fine.

Speaker 2

Yeah, so yeah, you know.

But I mean, if I had to do it all over again, I probably would not have done it again because my sense of humor was really different then, and I liked being cruel to be funny.

I thought it was hilarious, you know, And I thought, uh.

Speaker 1

Oh, you're kind of right, It kind of depends on where you aim.

Speaker 2

And see, that's where I grew up.

Well, that's my theory is that it's only funny if you're asking for it and everybody's asking for it, so you have to find the door somehow to make it okay.

But I raised in the time of Don Rickles and making fun of it, and my parents whole mantra was you better laugh or you're never gonna stop crying.

Right, So anything that happened that was bad, we laughed.

You made fun of everything if you never hurt.

Sometimes it was close to the our Christmas stockings were filled of all of our failures during the year.

You're like, oh remember this.

You're like, yeah, you know, and you had to laugh.

Speaker 3

Oh.

Speaker 2

I kind of grew up in that world where you laughed at stuff, and so I, well, we can all be grown ups and laugh at our feelings.

It's not everybody.

Yeah, And it wasn't till much later I went, oh, that's not that good.

I don't want to do.

People are like, make the archive.

I almost did make the archives live, and I'm like, I wouldn't make those jokes again.

I don't think they're funny now.

People used to say to me at the time, I'm sorry for you, and I hope whatever's going on with you you'll be happier someday.

And I was like, and then later, oh Jesus, they're right, oh.

Speaker 1

Wow, Yeah, but you fell into a little bit of the wicked witch there when you were imitating that reasl that crazy assent.

Speaker 2

There's a lot of crazy ass bitches.

Speaker 3

Yeah, what were the weirdest things you recall.

Speaker 2

You're talking about the interaction or finding.

We're just period the stuff that was great about like products on this stuff that was great.

I wound up kind of getting into business with these people to do stuff like there was a woman who embroidered Maxi pads and toilet paper and I have no idea why embroidered.

Leave your bad from like an embroidered.

I don't know why.

So I said, can you embroider like five hundred Maxi pads and I'll make them book marks for the books when I do book signs.

That kind of stuff was great, But then a lot of pads weird taxi like the weirdest taxi urm you've ever seen.

So I wouldn't do that again.

But for at the time, it was good and good things came of it, and we helped people.

But that's I'm not so keen on.

Speaker 1

Yeah yeah, well bigger fish to fry.

Speaker 2

Now, So just like in a little gentler kind of face, I suppose still an awful person, don't get me wrong.

And then the other thing that took the fun out of it was that Etsy stopped pretending they were homemade.

Yeah, oh, they're just now it's all factories and stuff.

And now that the language is like a brilliant, vibrant market place of homemade ends, special curated factory, it's like garbage.

So they're not ashamed anymore.

Speaker 1

So it's been hell with it.

Speaker 2

It was fun when they were fighting back, but then I'm like, well, yeah, you're right, Okay, Well I'm gonna go.

Speaker 1

Yeah, gotta go harass someone else.

Speaker 3

Changing topics.

Speaker 4

Another fun fact that we found about you is that you've known Kevin Spacey for quite some time.

Speaker 3

Well not anymore, not anymore.

Speaker 1

I was curious.

Speaker 3

I was going to ask, I was going to ask, if.

Speaker 2

You that's him in his car drive right through the building.

Speaker 3

So I'm at a convention not too long ago.

Speaker 2

Yeah, he's starting to do like horror cons and stuff.

Speaker 3

Like that.

Yeah, there's like a.

Speaker 1

Truck out so wow, Ken, that sounded like it hit the building.

Folks, Just curious just to let you know there.

Wow.

Yeah.

Speaker 2

We went to and we did plays together in the valley, you know, like when I was fifteen and they had like musical theater at Pierce the for in the summer.

We did well, we did Gypsy together.

He was her mom a Rose, and we did a lot of shows.

Speaker 1

Yeah.

I remember running into you somewhere, I mean a long time ago, and you were just fresh off doing something with him, and wo oh that's pretty darn cool.

Yeah.

Speaker 2

I probably just saw him somewhere.

Speaker 1

I mean probably went to something.

Speaker 2

It was I went to it of Beyond the Sea.

Speaker 1

Oh maybe, oh okay, yeah, but that was it.

Speaker 2

He was like, he was pretty good.

He's saying that too, and he got up and was talking doing Q and adios.

I'd like to introduce someone to the co star of mine.

And I'm like, who's he?

Speaker 1

Who's here?

Speaker 3

Yeah?

Speaker 2

Right, we did Gypsy together.

I was like, oh my god, he made me stand up and.

Speaker 1

Oh that's cool.

Its weird.

Speaker 2

Yeah, yeah, but I don't I haven't talked to him a really long time and I got a lot of calls.

I get a lot of calls every year from from the BBC.

You know, we're doing expose and we'd like to have you op like.

Speaker 1

No, you no warning, warning, dive die, there's.

Speaker 2

No place to go.

You know, if you say well, I personally didn't see anything, then you sound like you're apologizing.

Speaker 1

Yeah.

Speaker 2

And if you say well you make suit up to you know, be relevant, then you're an idiot.

So it's like I just now a few people like that, but could you like to know?

Speaker 1

Yeah, no comment, I'm good at the point.

Yeah, yeah, what is the point?

Yeah?

Speaker 2

Interesting for sure.

Speaker 1

Yes, Well, if you can't say something nice about it, but you don't say anything nice, don't.

Yeah, you get the idea.

Speaker 2

Okay, So I'm not won't talk anymore.

Speaker 1

On oh man, but I've got my I've got my dish here.

And oh yeah we we did.

We talk about being married twice?

Who you and I?

Speaker 2

I was sure you're going with that because I was like, it's more than two.

Speaker 1

Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3

We did.

Speaker 2

We were I didn't realize that.

Yeah, we were Peg Pegan and Pete and and Dylan.

Speaker 1

Dylan and Lucky Lucky.

Speaker 2

That was Lucky Pequel and then weren't we something on tune were like Deer and.

Speaker 1

Oh there was fond Deer.

I think that was.

Speaker 2

Doris Steer was I don't know.

And then Brad was.

Speaker 1

Super Water Buffalo.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's Brad Garrett love him.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

He has had him on the podcast.

Speaker 2

He just love him.

Speaker 1

He's a great He's a funny guy.

He's man.

Speaker 2

Our texts are so hilarious.

He just makes me cry.

He makes me laugh.

Speaker 1

Yeah.

Speaker 2

I used to go and see him at his club in Vegas because I lived there, so I'd go and see him occasionally.

And I was looking He has pictures of celebrities on all of his history along the wall, and I'm looking at the pictures and I went and it's me and I'm like five on the set of Winch mahoney time.

I guess I sent him the picture a long time ago.

I'm on a phone and he put it in.

Speaker 1

His Wow so proud.

Oh I didn't see that one, damn it.

Speaker 2

It was cool.

Speaker 1

Well, that's cool.

Speaker 2

I opened for him too, as as Sheila.

Speaker 1

Do you remember Sheila Sheila's hands?

Speaker 2

Yeah, yeah, I opened for in Vegas.

It was very pictures in him and my phone.

It's no kid feet taller than me, and I'm everyone, here's a really if I can tell you this story about how good he is with rooms, working rooms and all that stuff and setting up expectations for what you're about to see.

So Sheila, for all of you who don't know who that is, so it's a club act I used to do.

She's kind of based on like the rue de Lee type, the sort of kind of quasi sort of famous seventies blonde, you know, chanti.

But I also kind of panttered her on my mom, who because my mom couldn't be bothered to learn anything.

She just just made it up.

So Sheila just made up the lyrics and they sounded like it.

So that's what she would sing, you know, and that's how you got set in the clowns in Spanish and all the other crazy things that she used to do.

So so why am I telling you this story?

I forgot already.

Speaker 1

Well, Garrett, Brad, Garrett, Sheila says, Vegas opening.

Speaker 2

So I opened.

I don't know why.

I's why I opened for him, and it was it was really really fun and he also, oh, crowd work, that's it.

So I come out the first night, and he comes out to introduce me, and he says, here she is.

She's a great singer.

Now I sing in this show, but I sing ridiculous songs.

Right, and it's bring about twenty minutes and stuff, and I come out and I start to sing and the audience is like, no idea how to react to me?

Speaker 1

Right?

Speaker 2

And I come back in the green room and he's like, oh, it was rough.

I said what.

Speaker 3

I don't know.

Speaker 1

I don't know what happened.

Speaker 2

Next night, he comes out, legend, gentleman, very funny woman.

You'll love her.

She's very funny.

She was in it, Okay, so come out.

They're already like laughing a little bit.

Speaker 3

Right.

Speaker 2

You're like, okay, that's interesting.

So I do the same material.

Very goes over really well.

Third night, he comes out and says, legids, gentleman, real treat.

You've seen her on Kimmel, you've seen her on Letterman.

And they're like, I haven't bet on either of those shows, right, yeah, And she's on this and this and this.

You see her, this is she's fantastic to see it.

But they're standing before I came out.

Oh god, that an amazing lessons expectation.

Speaker 1

Yeah, really good.

It's real good at that.

That's good.

Speaker 2

Yeah, yeah, And he married us.

John and I were married in Vegas and he did the ceremony, really he did.

Speaker 1

Yeah, he's an ordained.

Speaker 2

But we went back to aftermister and it was like he was.

He made fun of everybody.

He said, how blue can I get at this wedding?

I said, go whatever you want.

He made fun of you, kill everyone.

He called my my husband's stepfather tip O'Neil.

I mean, he just went to town on these and it went on and on and on, like was long, right, And so he says to the piano player, he goes, can't you play something else?

And I said, Brad, we only paid for one song, thought, this is gonna be He's taking money out of his pocketyst play the play New York, New York.

Play something for God's sake.

Speaker 1

It's a wedding, you know, oh god it was.

Speaker 2

And the guy comes to take comes up the aisle to take the pictures and he gives him his keys.

He goes, it's the blue handa he was.

So it's like the only wedding video that you want.

Speaker 1

To watch, you know.

Speaker 2

He did like an hour of stand up and we were crying, crying, and he says to Johnny, goes, you sure you want to do this?

He goes, yeah, he goes, let me show you this.

He takes out the thing.

He goes, these are pictures of all the things I lost in my divorce.

You still want to do?

It was great?

Speaker 1

It was so exist of all the things.

Yeah.

Speaker 2

Recently, he's a pretty wonderful person and the most generous, decent human being I think I've ever met in my life.

Really good.

Speaker 1

Yeah, yeah, yeah, unbelievable.

Yeah, tall too, so tall.

Yeah, Hey, if you're nice to me, I'll get your frisbee out of the gutta.

Okay.

Speaker 2

When I when I first knew him, we were doing We're doing Casper, and I think I met him on that.

Yeah, yeah, I might have met him on.

Speaker 1

That's right.

Speaker 2

I don't remember.

I met him on something.

I don't remember something.

But I started to use him in commercials because I thought he was hilarious.

You know, I'm still doing that at the time.

And he would pull up to Waves Recording Studio, which is now, by the way, a marijuana dispensary, which I think Waves hilarious.

Certain bars and waves pot dispensary.

Speaker 1

That doesn't sound right.

Speaker 2

I love it.

It's hilarious, that is.

Anyway, are you going there?

Like you know, I used to work here.

They're like, uh huh, okay, Grandma, you got your car?

Speaker 1

Yeah yeah, yeah, so yeah.

Speaker 2

So he pulls up to the to the session wearing a Kaiser Wilhelm hat with perfect on a motorcycle, long hair.

Speaker 1

Get that.

Oh god.

For those of you who don't know, it's one of those with what was that in mad Mad Mad Mad World?

Somebody had one of the I'm trying to.

Speaker 2

Sean, I think maybe right, or we think you might be thinking of producers when he was doing the Springtime for Hitler.

Oh yeah, it all PLEDs together.

All I know is he died on stage.

That's all I know.

Speaker 1

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Speaker 2

Stage people say he died doing what he loved.

I don't want to die doing what I loved.

I'd like to finish it.

Yeah yeah, taking out the trash or something.

Speaker 1

Yeah, oh that's that's yeah, yeah, because then you don't get to finish.

You don't get to finish either.

He died right in the middle of something you liked, you know, Thanksgiving, you know, well that sucks.

Speaker 2

And get to the potatoes.

Speaker 1

Yeah, oh my god.

Speaker 2

Good people.

We've met a lot of good people.

Speaker 1

Yeah, yeah, really good souls.

You know, worked with a lot of very interesting, very creative people over the years.

Speaker 2

And how the business has changed too from how we used to do it all in the same room.

And how much fun that was.

Speaker 1

Yeah, yeah, I sure did like it, you know, because it felt.

Speaker 2

Like Ryan yeah, laughing so hard.

Speaker 1

Yeah, And it felt a bit like putting on a theater, putting on a theater.

Speaker 2

Work off of and yeah it was nice.

Speaker 1

Yeah, it's nice.

You could bounce off people and they don't do that anymore, which is what we're lamenting.

Speaker 2

By the way, I did one season of Mighty Ducks.

Speaker 1

Do you want that?

Speaker 2

I think you were?

Speaker 1

I think I was a door duck.

Speaker 2

So that was Brad Garrett, Jeff Bennett, Yeah, me, Iron Zering, a bunch of Steve Mackle, a bunch of really super fun people.

We poor Jamie Thomas and was like, can we could we please give okay, let's.

Speaker 1

Go to you just just a voice director.

Speaker 2

Playing and riffing in.

The director tried to get ut.

Yeah, and we're just we had so much fun.

We would bring nerf guns and shoot.

I mean, we just had a ball.

I really looked forward to it and just isn't that's I missed that.

Speaker 1

I liked it.

It's not the same.

Yeah, yeah, it's not the same.

Nothing's the same.

Speaker 3

If you got the opportunity to do it again, would you?

Speaker 1

Oh in a second?

Speaker 2

So much fun, even as late as Wander Over Yonder when I did that, that was twenty fifteenth something like that.

Yeah, that was all of us in the same room.

Speaker 1

It's super fun.

Wrote that down.

Speaker 2

Man, I loved that show.

Speaker 1

Look at that, look at that I Wonder Over Yonder show.

Yeah, and now it's on Disney Channel.

Yeah.

Yeah, Disney plus, Disney plus Disney plus.

Speaker 3

I love that.

Speaker 1

Yeah, that's beautiful thing.

Speaker 2

Yes, tune in super fun.

Speaker 1

Yeah, Well, everything I ever did was is on Disney.

Speaker 2

Plus me too.

Speaker 1

You know.

Speaker 2

Yeah, it's wild.

Speaker 1

Because I think you and I are very similar in that I don't know, maybe ninety percent of what I've ever done was for Disney.

Speaker 2

Yeah, me too, mostly.

Yeah, Yeah, yeah, I think that was That's kind of a a signpost of when we started, like you could you were a studios person, you know what I mean.

Yeah, there's like the Warner Brothers people, it didn't really blend as much.

And now I think it's not as big of a deal anymore.

Speaker 1

But yeah, yeah, nothing's the same, and yeah, nothing's the same anyway.

Yeah, which is a damn shame actually.

Speaker 2

A little bit.

But you know, again, I'm trying kind of like, well, it's not my world, you know what I mean.

I got my shot.

I had a great time.

But you know, you're in a position now where you're you're the talent pool is everyone in the world.

Now, you know, you don't have to live here anymore.

That was a real advantage in the nineties.

Speaker 1

And yeah, yeah, you had to.

Speaker 2

Be in the studio, you have to live here.

You people would say to me, how do I start?

You got to move to la It's not gonna happen, And of course it can happen now.

Speaker 3

Yeah.

Speaker 1

Yeah, it wasn't going to happen for me in Youngstown, Ohio.

Speaker 2

And yet I bet there's people working there now.

Speaker 1

Yeah yeah, but not in Hollywood from Youngstown.

Speaker 2

But it's all right, But a lot of it's remote now, although I do see a lot of bigger projects, say has to be in LA or New York or whatever.

Speaker 4

So Atlanta, yeah, Atlanta, Vancouver, Yeah, yeah, not so much.

Speaker 1

Yeah, that's true, right May Vancouver is a.

Speaker 4

Big Vancouver for TV stuff a lot like Hallmark, Hallmark Channel.

Speaker 2

To get into c W.

You and I need to start getting into those Hallmark Christmas movies.

Speaker 1

That's true.

Well I used to be the Hallmark guy.

Really.

Speaker 5

Coming up next on Hallmark Channel, Pat Boone stars as a necrophilia, you know, serial killer in What the Hey.

Speaker 2

I had him on my show once.

He had he had a heavy metal album that.

Speaker 1

Came out, I know, did you?

Speaker 3

Yes?

Speaker 1

Just recent?

Speaker 4

When was it two weeks ago?

Speaker 1

Actual?

Speaker 4

Pat booms not of not as of two weeks ago?

Speaker 2

Just comes out just check your Yeah.

Speaker 1

But you couldn't tell he was fine, he was great.

Speaker 2

He had that heavy metal album.

We all came down.

What is that one?

That really spoke on the water.

Yes, I was like, the only thing metal that this guy has is a hip.

Speaker 1

That's yes.

Speaker 2

But I loved it.

It was so misguided, and that's a real that's a real motif, Like motif with me is misguided self expression, you know, regrets see bad music, bad singing, bad television.

Speaker 1

Love it?

Yeah, yeah, oh god, that's beautiful.

Well you made it hell of a career out of it, too, kind of a sort of kind of.

Speaker 2

Kind of an adjunct sort of career.

Speaker 3

Did you have a favorite venture in your career, like a stage.

Speaker 2

Well, I really loved those early nineties because you saw everybody and you worked every day and it was a really fun community.

It was fun to see your friends, and I love I loved that.

But I've done a lot of things that I.

Speaker 3

Really liked, you know, so it's hard to pick a favorite.

Speaker 2

Kind of I really liked a live theater very much, you.

Speaker 1

Know, but you're pretty damn severely good at it, so.

Speaker 2

I liked it.

But you know, when I was in New York and I was auditioning, and I realized that there wasn't a lot of opportunity for you know, old white women at this point, which is fine because we got our shot.

I thought to myself, you know, I'd had that one moment of like, God, really worse, and then that other moment of like, oh, I don't want to do eight shows a week.

I don't want to be on my feet.

Yeah, sixteen hours a week walking around memorizing stuff.

Speaker 1

I don't know that's true.

Speaker 2

I just watch YouTube for a while.

Speaker 1

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I had that bug for a good long while.

Yeah that you know, the stage was and it wasn't that one of your original loves?

I mean theater?

Speaker 2

Yeah, I mean when I was sixteen, I was on the road for two years with you know, Oklahoma and music Man, and I did Summer Stock year after year after year after year, and I loved it.

I loved it.

Yeah, I really wanted to do it, but I kind of got stuck in LA for you know, family and other reasons, and I wound up, you know, doing this, which was the greatest luck I think I've ever had.

And I was fortunate that I had been practicing for it.

Speaker 1

For enormously success all of those things.

Yeah, yeah, man, oh man, Yeah, I like that.

It's so Darren.

Speaker 2

Cool, still fun, you know, I'm it's I had an interesting experience at Disneyland recently.

I went there not too long ago.

Yeah, and I met the person in the Clara Belle costume.

Because I don't know I've seen this, but she's like being referred to as a rising queer icon Clara Belle.

Yes, because in the suits they've hired actual drag queens who can do the death drop and the dance and know all the moves and everything, and is true incredible.

Lying to meet her is longer than anybody.

She's just super popular, right, So I went to meet her, and I'm meeting her and stuff, and I started to step back and look around and all these people are so excited to see her, and I thought, for the first time in my life, I was like, oh my god, I'm part of something.

Because you know, you're behind the glass and you don't you don't really think about people listening to you, and you're not on anything fun.

You know, you're not on Adventure Time or Bob's Burgers or any of the cool stuff that people watch.

So you know, you don't know a lot of seven year olds to talk to about your body of work.

So that was a really well that felt really good.

Speaker 1

Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2

That felt really good to be a part of something.

I really thread about that.

So I'm walking with Clara Bell.

There's this they're all lining up to meet her, right, and this old woman says to me, oh, look, she's walking with Clara Belle.

And her daughter's like, mom is Clara?

That's Clara And she's not getting it And I said, no, I am my mam, Clara Bell.

She just looks at me and I said, yeah, well, how are you doing?

Speaker 1

It?

Speaker 2

Does a beautiful night but GLI or an Adventure and she goes she looks at me, She goes, well, now, how long have you been practicing that?

And I said about thirty years?

And I was like, no, mom, she really is clear.

Oh yeah, and she got excited about it.

Speaker 1

Yeah.

I've had experiences soda like that.

Jessar now has one where he was standing in line at something or another end his character Jako Warner or Wacko Warner from Animaniacs.

The kid was wearing a shirt in front of him with his character on it, and he says, you should tell him.

You gotta do it.

Speaker 2

You gotta do the voice sometimes.

Speaker 1

Yeah.

And of course now and jess you, as many of you know he looks like the king of rock and roll, or at least rock and uh.

And he was in the cast of Hair and he has a lot a lot of hair.

Great, greatest guy you ever want to meet.

And so he taps the little kid on the shoulder and he says, yeah, that I I do.

I do that voice.

I'm the guy that does the voice of the shirt that you're wearing there.

He goes, yeah, yeah, yeah, and and and and and mother looks at him like, you know, and he's going, okay, but yeah, I know, yeah, bye, I really do yeah.

And so she says, okay, well that's good for you, honey, and and and he hosts, no, no, no, I don't.

I don't mean that I sound I sound like him.

I mean I'm the guy who does the voice it's on the cartoon.

And he goes, all right, let's hear it, you know.

And so he goes, well, you know, you know, and I'm not going to do him.

But he goes, oh, wait, what do you mean what said?

He goes, it's not bad.

Speaker 2

It's not bad.

Speaker 1

It's me.

So I don't sound like me.

He goes, well, you sound like you.

You just don't sound like I was like, okay, oh my, yeah, you.

Speaker 2

Know, someone did that to me once.

I didn't get Corolla duel for them.

Yeah, and he's like it's pretty good.

Speaker 1

Well I'm glad Disney likes it.

Yeah.

Speaker 2

Yeah, well my health benefits are calculated on those residuals, so you better like it.

Speaker 1

That's right, Oh god, yeah yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2

It's pretty funny though.

I have you ever been recognized just talking somewhere that somebody turns around and knows you?

No, No, that happened to meet an elevator one I don't think very weird.

Was telling my mom how I stopped smoking this.

It was like twenty years ago.

This girl goes, you are you wow?

And I got recognized in a dispensary and okay, sure, and they were looking at my, uh my driver's license and she goes I said yeah yeah, and she goes, hand second, you guys, you.

Speaker 1

A great perfect You'll never guess I'll come over.

Speaker 2

And then they say the two words that make you want to kill yourself?

Speaker 1

Oh do it actually makes me want to kill them.

Speaker 2

I was like, oh, you got any more sour cush?

You know, I'm looking for a hot bread pre roll, just like this is the worst day of my life.

Oh my worst day of my life.

Speaker 1

That's wonderful.

Speaker 2

Bad situation.

Oh my god, it's a doctor did it once?

So doctor to headache?

Doctor did it once?

And so what do you do?

And I said, do you have to know?

Yeah, it's not really it's important to know what you do.

I do cartoon voices.

Have I heard you anything?

Do you need to know from means?

Speaker 5

Yeah?

Speaker 1

Tell me them.

Speaker 2

Okay, open the door, ladies, brings all the nurses.

Speaker 1

Great, I've had something.

Speaker 2

It's not that I'm delighted and honored in place, you know, but in those moments where you're vulnerable, it's a little.

Speaker 3

Yeah, kind of like dance monkey.

Speaker 2

Well a little tiny bit.

I don't even mind dance monkey, but that was like, I have all your medical records.

Do something humiliating.

Speaker 1

Now, yeah, well I remember years ago.

This is terrible.

I guess I can tell this.

But I was going in for an exam, okay, And it was one of these worried about, worried about, worried about a rupture sort of thing.

And so so I'm standing there with my stuff out, and and he's got on his gloves, rubber gloves, and and and he goes, so, what do you do?

Let me?

You know, cartoons?

You're going, you're kidding, Oh Jesus no, And I said, yeah, so what do you do?

And I'm going, can we finish up here?

You know?

He goes, and then then he then he goes, oh yeah, so anyway, oh no, so cough give me a cough?

Yeah you know, and it's yeah, cough and then I did, And so I think that's it for today.

Speaker 5

Bad.

Speaker 2

I'm sorry.

Speaker 1

Yeah, yeah, but the idea of sitting there going, you know, just holding me.

Speaker 2

That hasn't happened yet.

But I have a mamogram coming up solely, you know.

Speaker 1

Okay, well did it take it?

Take two ends?

Speaker 5

Oh?

Speaker 1

Stop, I can't believe.

Speaker 2

I can't believe it.

Speaker 1

Yeah, just just shoot.

Speaker 2

You had a fun facts?

You had a fun facts?

Yeah, like two of them they wrote a book.

Speaker 1

Well we gotta go yeah yeah yeah.

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Speaker 4

Do you want to play a voice swap game?

We do a voice swap game on this podcast.

Yes, if you're up for it, I'll explain how it works.

All right, So Jim will do a character voice of his.

I'll say a line, you know, something that Winnie the Pooh says, and then you'll copy that same line, but in the voice of.

Speaker 3

One of your characters his voice.

No, no, no, okay, yeah, so you'll do it.

Speaker 1

Ask peak if you're interesting.

But let's do I think I'll do well.

I think I have to want.

Speaker 2

It to be like Pete's sister.

I don't know why we can't get that going.

Yeah, where are you going with that basket?

Speaker 1

Pete?

Speaker 2

I mean I feel like we can to basket.

I don't Know's go back to the euphemism for your doctor.

Yes, all right, voice swaps.

So you do a you do a line and I do it as one of my characters.

Speaker 3

Yeah, and vice versa.

Speaker 1

Yes, okay, okay, let's see.

I got to think up a really good Pete line here.

Uh see.

Everything whenever I start doing this, they all come up R rated or X rated.

Then I have to tone it down inside my head so that the kids can't hear it.

We can hear it, will you, nobody.

That's just the way it goes sometimes.

So sometimes you win them, sometimes you go down in flames.

Speaker 2

Hmmm, well you know, buddy, that's just how it goes.

Speaker 1

Sometimes.

Speaker 2

Sometimes you win, and sometimes you go down in flames.

Speaker 1

That Clara gotta love her and waiter, isn't she also tied for kind of like first or second place for oldest Disney character.

Speaker 2

I believe she is, and yet not a friend.

I don't know if you've noticed that on any of the merchandise making friends, you're like Chip and Dale.

Speaker 1

Oh hell is this?

Yeah?

Speaker 2

I tricked your elevator.

I make you moo muffins.

I took you to the parade.

I got your pizza.

For God's sake, what does it take?

Speaker 1

That's true?

Speaker 2

You want me to do a line as one of mine?

Speaker 1

Sure?

Speaker 3

Hm.

Speaker 2

Be a good boy, Roger.

I'm going to the beauty parla and if you not, it's back to the science lab.

Speaker 1

Be a good boy, Roger.

I'm going back to this studio, and if and if you're not, it's back to the science lab.

Speaker 2

That's so sad coming from poop coming talking about science labs.

Speaker 1

Yes, I used to be Smoky the Bear.

Speaker 2

But I have a promo you made me for for k if I a Smoky the Bear.

Speaker 1

Oh no, kidding.

Speaker 2

You can prevent Michild's radio show something like that.

Speaker 1

Well there was Alzheimer Smoky remember, only you could prevent Forest Forest come first, Wait, don't tell me.

Speaker 2

Yeah, you got Forest Tucker.

You can use that one.

Speaker 1

That's true.

Speaker 2

There, Yeah, there's another one.

Oh, Robert Forrester almost you almost yeah.

Speaker 1

I mean, oh man, Well, thank you, buddy, thank you, very nice to see you.

My gosh, we go we go back and and uh and and and then there's your dad.

God rest his soul.

Speaker 3

You know.

He was.

Speaker 1

He was a character and a half.

Certainly was.

Speaker 2

I vividly remember going to the premiere of Winnie the Pooh and the Blustery Day at the Disney Studio and there was a guy dressed in the suit.

I have a picture somewhere with me in my little dress.

No, it was just Winning the Pooh with the honey thing.

Oh yeah, and then the and Sebastian Cabot was there and John.

Speaker 1

And wow, yes, they were all there, and my.

Speaker 2

Dad had been working on it for a while, but I hadn't didn't tell us much about it, and he keep was saying we went to the premiere, and I was like, whoa, I was blown away, blown away, and then it just you know, then it was Tigger.

Speaker 1

Yeah, yeah, And now I get to tiggerl liked.

Speaker 2

You know, I walk over my dad's star on the way to the store because close to right where it is, where it is on Hubbard Library of like, oh boy, he'd love that.

Oh yeah, and so father's dam and go down there and clean his star.

Speaker 3

Oh that's really sweet.

Speaker 1

That's nice.

That is very nice.

Speaker 2

Nice.

It's nice to see that.

Speaker 1

Yeah.

Well, I I you know, I'll never forget.

I don't want to be redundant if I told this before, But I remember seeing him.

One of the last times I saw him was at Not Waves that's a recording studio.

Anyway, he was he was getting in and he was having a tough time making it through the door, and and I said, hey, Paul, what the heck you know, how you doing?

How you doing?

Speaker 3

Oh?

Speaker 1

How you doing?

Kid?

Oh my god?

And he sits there, that's wild.

Speaker 2

Oh, that's crazy.

Speaker 1

Sorry, but yeah, like my dad, I was kid and uh and I said, so, I say, yah, trying to navigate here through the door.

What's going on?

He goes, well, I had a stroke, you know, And I and uh.

And I know because I'm I'm getting good at that myself.

But and I he gave me the description.

I said, what what's that like?

Because everybody in my family got wrestling, we all stroke and we're gone, you know, so you know I got that going for me.

But he said.

He goes, well, you know, go like this, And I said, okay, he goes, you see the space between your fingers your hands.

I said, yeah, he goes, that's what I can see.

And I said, oh yeah, and I said jeez.

So he goes, that's why I got this driver.

And I said, man, oh man, I said, so what does that mean now?

And he goes and he looked at the floor.

And this is this what gets me a little bit.

So anyway, he says, he looked at the floor and then he reached a puts his hand on my shoulder and he goes, it means I want you to take care of my little buddy for me.

Speaker 2

I said, okay, here talking about me yeah, you went, then you went, did tigger?

Speaker 1

So do you like that?

Yeah?

So that wow?

Speaker 2

Yeah, that's amazing.

Speaker 1

Yeah it was what a guy?

Yeah, what a guy.

Yeah.

Speaker 2

I have a lot of appreciation for him as I get older, you know, because you have the benefit of seeing, you know, what your parents really were, what their marriage really was, all the external forces that you weren't aware of.

And you also kind of sort of think of that your parents is coming into existence when you did, and then you realize that they had many years before you become those people and all those experiences today.

So I have a lot more appreciation for him as I get older, for sure.

Speaker 1

Yeah.

Speaker 2

Wow, yeah he was something.

Speaker 1

Well, I have a lot of appreciation for you.

We both get older.

But you know why, I'd rather have a ton of birthdays in one funeral.

That's what I've always said.

Speaker 2

That's exactly right.

Speaker 1

So there on that happy note, shall we shall?

We have wrapped this?

Speaker 2

Going to just park in my garage when I get home and leave the car running.

Speaker 1

That's right.

We don't forget to leave the door down.

Speaker 2

It doesn't work.

Speaker 1

Close.

Speaker 2

We're still here, just going through gas.

Speaker 1

It's expensive.

Speaker 3

Yeah, well, thank you very much.

Really appreciate that.

Speaker 2

Thank you really nice to see.

Speaker 3

You, ladies.

Speaker 4

But yeah, and thank you guys all for watching.

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Speaker 2

Okay, because I have all signed.

Speaker 1

Up, I'm out of yes, and thank you, thank you everybody

Speaker 3

And thank you again April Winchell for joining us.