Episode Transcript
Different ways to handle grieving.
It's one more thing.
Speaker 2I'm strong, and one more thing.
Speaker 3It's an impactful topic.
Yeah, heavy, perhaps.
Speaker 1Kind of Well, I don't know if it's so much because we're gonna play a clip a story about Conan O'Brien.
Actually, I don't know if this fits in or not.
I remember when I was reading Christopher Hitchen's book When He Got Cancer, which made an impact on me.
Then when I ended up getting cancer not long after it is he said it's okay for me to make jokes about my cancer, not okay for other people to make jokes about my cancer.
So it's God, there's a bit of that when you're when you're talking about grieving, uh, you know, death or whatever it is you're grieving or illness or something like that.
The the person involved kind of gets to set the bar for how far we're willing to go with this generally.
Speaker 3Well, and it's very very different coming out of someone else's mouth, even if they like, see where the bar is and think, Okay, now I can make a joke.
Roughly now you can't.
Speaker 2Just don't.
Speaker 1But I have quite a bit of leeway with like where I would be in terms of joking around about very very serious subjects, just kind of the way I'm built.
I'm not even close to where Conan O'Brien is, though he's about to hear from the sty I always liked the Conan O'Brien show.
I think he's absolutely brilliant.
Wrote for The Simpsons, went to Harvard, wrote for Saturday Night Live, and then had his own very successful talk show.
Now he does a podcast, video podcast, and he has guests on all the time.
The voice you're going to hear talking to Conan will Arnett from Arrested Development.
Speaker 3He was also a very very funny guy.
Speaker 1What was his name on Arrested develop Job?
He was the brother job yet the magician anyway, and they're talking about Conan O'Brien's parents.
Conan had a great relationship with his parents, which is important to the story because it's not like he hated his parents, ade that he talked about him all the time.
His parents both died really close together, like really close together, at the same time.
And so they also mentioned the star of Arrested Development, Jason Bateman is involved in this and the texting and everything that goes on, and I think that's enough of a setup to understand the story.
Speaker 2This is real personal subject for you in the family, my parents as well.
First, let me just say the timeline because I have it here.
I wrote it down last year because the timeline was so good.
And so I hear that that your your dad passes away, and I text you that day or the next day, and I said, hey, listen, I'm sorry to hear about your dad's passing, sending love from our family to yours, and you wrote thank you.
Will to be honest, I blame Bateman for the death of my for the death of my father.
The day after his father dies, yeah, so I wrote, it's not a terrible theory, and con texted me back, he killed my dad, my dad, can I say, in fairness, my dad would have loved.
Speaker 4This so so so uh so then Baban Baban, I tell Babman this, we're dying.
Speaker 2We're doing a thing that day, so he the next day, Bateman texts you and he says, Arnette tells me you're on to me, yes, and ConA texts baby.
He says, Baban, do yourself a fan favor, turn yourself in.
Speaker 5Yeah.
Speaker 2Two days after your dad passes.
Of course, your mom passed away yeah, which we didn't.
I did not see coming, but did not see coming.
So I text you two days after I knew you were a boss.
I said, Bateman is asking for your sister street addressing.
Speaker 5Yeah, okay, give yeah, And you were busy that weekend, and like a day and a half later, you're texted back just seeing this now fantastic six twenty five Boston Street, Department twelve's.
Speaker 2He tell Bateman to make it look like a robbery.
Speaker 1Okay, that's the whole thing.
Oh, I agree, that is so pretty.
Can you there?
Speaker 2You go?
Speaker 3H that is some pretty edgy joking.
Yeah, that's just that speaks to their relationship.
I guess that's that's crazy.
Speaker 1Codan's response, Bateman killed my father.
Speaker 3That's wow.
I would not be engaged in that.
I take it that he's like one of those people where that's actually healing for him.
Speaker 1Oh yeah, he actually he actually, after they talk about some other stuff, he actually said that's the way I grieve.
He said, that's just way I'm built.
I mean that that was helpful for me to do that.
Speaker 3Yeah, I'm fair enough, but that's that's at the very.
Speaker 1Edge man of a push on that sort of thing.
Yeah, there's my sister's address.
Make it look like an accident.
Speaker 3You know what really pisses people off who deal with grief, like grief counselors and and and and ministers and what do you call my mom?
Was one chaplain at like a hospice or something.
Is where somebody watches the news story and says, uh, you know, whether it's I think they did it or they're something, because nobody acts like that after their husband dies or their wife or their mom or whatever.
That's not the way somebody would act, because everybody has a different way of processing.
You know.
Some people just go to pieces and stay in pieces for a while and pounce right back.
Some people remain very very stoic.
They've got to keep it between the es for a while, you know.
So yeah, that's freaking hilarious.
And I just I'm trying to picture that like in my own life somebody else And if my brother initiated it, I would be all in.
But I'm not sure I would.
Speaker 2Think to initiate it.
Speaker 3Wow, what was the initial blast?
I blame Bateman or something like that, because Conan initiated it, obviously, that's funny.
Well, I guess that's it.
