[SPEAKER_01]: Welcome to the Toolshed, a podcast covering all levels of professional baseball to help give you the edge in your dynasty leagues, from the MLB draft, all the way to the show.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Welcome in to another episode of the tool shed podcast brought to you by Rotobollar.

[SPEAKER_03]: This is episode 420.

[SPEAKER_03]: Thank you for joining me.

[SPEAKER_03]: I'm your host Eric Cross.

[SPEAKER_03]: You can find me on Twitter at Eric Cross MLB and the show is at tool shed pod.

[SPEAKER_03]: Really fun episode today for y'all.

[SPEAKER_03]: We just finished up the annual industry prospect mock draft.

[SPEAKER_03]: that I do every year, right around this time, and this year, it was 15 of us, obviously, myself included, 33 rounds, 555 picks total with some of the best names in the Initiative most knowledgeable people around.

[SPEAKER_03]: It's always a really fun time doing this every year.

[SPEAKER_03]: I honestly, [SPEAKER_03]: really look forward to this every single fall.

[SPEAKER_03]: It's a good way to kind of like kick off the off season.

[SPEAKER_03]: One of the things that helps kind of get through the off season, obviously we get AFL coverage.

[SPEAKER_03]: I'll be out there this week that you're listening to this.

[SPEAKER_03]: I'll be out there at the entire [SPEAKER_03]: week in some light AFL looks, but definitely one of my highlights of the offseason is this prospect mock draft.

[SPEAKER_03]: Really enjoyed doing it every year, again, with some of the best names in the business.

[SPEAKER_03]: I'll get to those names in a second here and then kind of intro the mock drafts go over some of my picks.

[SPEAKER_03]: My favorite values strategy stuff like that, and then I also have two guests joining me.

[SPEAKER_03]: Later in the show, first guest will be Jesse Roche, and then second guest Owen heard.

[SPEAKER_03]: So get some of their thoughts and strategy and values and stuff like that later on as well.

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[SPEAKER_03]: All right, let's get into it here.

[SPEAKER_03]: Let's preview them the mock draft, give you the all the people that took part in the mock draft.

[SPEAKER_03]: So we'll start there, go in order of the draft order here.

[SPEAKER_03]: I should again, 15 people, 33 rounds, 505 fixed total.

[SPEAKER_03]: There was no like roster restrictions.

[SPEAKER_03]: I was okay.

[SPEAKER_03]: Just take best player available.

[SPEAKER_03]: Kind of build, you know, this your prospect roster.

[SPEAKER_03]: So to speak, how you would in a normal dynasty startup graph.

[SPEAKER_03]: You don't need to fill a catcher for a second, third, et cetera.

[SPEAKER_03]: Just take the best guys available.

[SPEAKER_03]: Kind of build your core here.

[SPEAKER_03]: How you would.

[SPEAKER_03]: So, first pick went to Martin Sakolsky at M under score SKI-22 on Twitter.

[SPEAKER_03]: He's a Dinesy content writer for Picture List and the Dinesy Guru and CEO of Forcy and Fantasy Substack.

[SPEAKER_03]: picked number two, Tim Kanak.

[SPEAKER_03]: He's a writer at Fantasy Pros, creator of F scores, father of five, got to love that, building his own little baseball team there, and the hosts of the Fantasy A-spall podcast at Fantasy A-spall on Twitter, pick number three, want to owe in hurt.

[SPEAKER_03]: in the episode here at 0 when underscore phb on twitter.

[SPEAKER_03]: He's a dynasty and redraft analyst and podcaster for scout statline.

[SPEAKER_03]: I had pick four.

[SPEAKER_03]: Pick number five goes to Zach Beck at upper underscore Beck on Twitter Prospect writer for the dansie dugouts and host of the prospect promotion incentive podcasts also The author of I mean, he makes a book out of it every year now a big big old top 100 prospect book Which is a definite to download, you know pay money for it whatever Definitely a thing you do you need to have in your kind of your [SPEAKER_03]: arsenal of content that you kind of take in.

[SPEAKER_03]: So definitely great work there by Zac Beck all around.

[SPEAKER_03]: Pick number six goes to Matt Thompson at MD THOMP underscore P live.

[SPEAKER_03]: Obviously he is one of the co-founders of Prospects Live and also friends with fantasy benefits as well.

[SPEAKER_03]: pick seven to crisp blessing from baseball HQ in the eyes have it podcast obviously a lot of these people but especially Chris out in Arizona shortly because he is obviously baseball HQ putting on first pitch Arizona so looking forward to that in a few days [SPEAKER_03]: He is at sea underscore blessing on Twitter.

[SPEAKER_03]: So I was picked seven, pick eight, two, James Anderson.

[SPEAKER_03]: The lead to prostrate analyst and senior baseball editor at Rotowire at RealJR Anderson.

[SPEAKER_03]: on Twitter, pick nine went to Chris Welsh, at is it the Welsh on Twitter, host analyst for fantasy pros and betting pros, co-owner of in this league and the creator of the prospect one podcast, one of the busiest and best dudes in the business, and I'll be seeing them actually probably tomorrow on Tuesday because he lives out there, so [SPEAKER_03]: get ready to see your annual Chris Welch and Eric Cross side by side video of the, you know, certain prospects from AFL games that is coming right up soon.

[SPEAKER_03]: I think the unofficial kick off to F.

Paz week is when you see I think it was that last year.

[SPEAKER_03]: I think it might have been Ryan Bloomfield saying like that's the unofficial kick off to, you know, F.

Paz week is when you see me and well said by side at a game, getting the same video angle of a prospect.

[SPEAKER_03]: So that's always fun.

[SPEAKER_03]: And pick number, we got here, pick number 10, pick 10, yeah, pick 10, going to Jesse Roach, dynasty writer and ranker at baseball perspectives and coasts of the, there is no offices in podcasts, my former co-host on the five tool podcasts back in the day, and he'll be joining me later on in this episode in about 15 minutes or so use the first.

[SPEAKER_03]: I guess in this episode, so Jesse had pick 10, pick 11 to Matt Eddie of baseball America, the executive editor for baseball America at Matt Eddie 2Ds [SPEAKER_03]: Pick 12 probably not that really any of these people need introductions.

[SPEAKER_03]: You all know these people But probably this guy needs the least amount of interaction to listeners of the tool shed podcast Pick 12 the one the only Kris Kleg at Kris Kleg M-I-L-B on Twitter Obviously with the Dansy dugouts of evaluator for socks prospects also those I'm writing [SPEAKER_03]: at Rotobal or as well.

[SPEAKER_03]: Obviously one of my best friends in this industry and the co-hosts of this podcast for 387 or 88 episodes.

[SPEAKER_03]: I forget which one of those should numbers.

[SPEAKER_03]: I don't see if I forget.

[SPEAKER_03]: I think it was 388.

[SPEAKER_03]: So obviously Chris Kleg, one of the hardest-working and best guys out there, Pick 13 goes to Ross Jensen CEO of Scout the Stateline and Prospex live, very smart dude at Ross Jensen 12 on Twitter.

[SPEAKER_03]: picked 13.

[SPEAKER_03]: We got Doc Eisenhower, Darren, Doc Eisenhower, one of the, you know, funnest guys in this industry, but also very knowledgeable as well.

[SPEAKER_03]: Now you find his work at Prospect's Live.

[SPEAKER_03]: Let's go to the Stateline and the Dynasty Dinger's podcast.

[SPEAKER_03]: And rounding things out last, but certainly not least, maybe the swagiest guy in the Prospect baseball world.

[SPEAKER_03]: Mr.

Jeff [SPEAKER_03]: at Jeff Ponds, BA on Twitter.

[SPEAKER_03]: Obviously does phenomenal work for baseball America.

[SPEAKER_03]: One of the guys that I've learned a lot from have a chance to usually go to a few games of him every year for both doing going guys, him in Massachusetts, me and Maine.

[SPEAKER_03]: So [SPEAKER_03]: Usually we meet up in New Hampshire a few times a year, so obviously, great to see OECJF and do any type of content with him.

[SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, that is the lineup here.

[SPEAKER_03]: It's our murderers' row of prospect analyst, prospect rankers.

[SPEAKER_03]: Obviously, follow all of these guys.

[SPEAKER_03]: The work, each one of them does, [SPEAKER_03]: is phenomenal and they all have their own style, their own way, they go about making content, the way they go about evaluating prospects and creating content and there's, that's why I say, there's not one way to evaluate a prospect, there's not one way to put together prospect rankings and there's so many great sources of content out there that I, I mean, obviously you can't to take it everything that's so much out there at these, you know, these days, but [SPEAKER_03]: I always urge people to, you know, find a few, you know, obviously if you have one person yet you trust and you know, they don't share your wrong and they give you good content, obviously great, whether that's me or others, but I always say, you know, try to get at least a few different perspectives from people, you might, you know, see, oh, hey, but this person thinks this, but this person thinks this, then you kind of, you know, help formulate your own thought process and your own kind of evaluation of the prospect or the players.

[SPEAKER_03]: So, [SPEAKER_03]: So again, always enjoy doing this every single year, but let's go over some of my picks now.

[SPEAKER_03]: Again, I was in the fourth slot here.

[SPEAKER_03]: I was really hoping, when I created the league to do the mock draft on fan tracks.

[SPEAKER_03]: and hit the randomized button to randomize the draft order.

[SPEAKER_03]: So that I had picked four, I didn't like it whatsoever.

[SPEAKER_03]: I would have loved to have one of the top three, or just kind of been more like, you know, several picks later, because, you know, I think like four to 10 or 11 is not really that big of a gap right now.

[SPEAKER_03]: I was hoping that one of Martin Tim, I mean, I knew Martin and Tim weren't going to go past Griffin and McGonagall.

[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, [SPEAKER_03]: That was going to be one, one, two, and some order, but I was hoping Owen, as I said to him later on in this episode, I already recorded it with Owen obviously, but I'm doing my section of this last actually, um, Bob's you hearing at first on the podcast, but as I was talking with Owen about, I was hoping that he was going to, you know, leave or go have some other way, you know, and not go Hazard's mod A with that three pick, but that's how it went.

[SPEAKER_03]: Those are my [SPEAKER_03]: Usually I don't go pitching prospect this early in a mock or a wheel draft, but I think Jets burns still have he has the highest upside of any pitching prospect in the game.

[SPEAKER_03]: Obviously, did not graduate quite yet, but should early in the 2026 season.

[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, we saw the strikeup upside is absolutely massive.

[SPEAKER_03]: And if the reds hold on the hunter green, beyond like this off season, [SPEAKER_03]: green and burns could be a really, really sexy one too, and obviously any you mix in like, you know, habits and the dulls, et cetera.

[SPEAKER_03]: So that could be a really good rotation in general, but that one too of green and burns could be just absolutely ridiculously good.

[SPEAKER_03]: So burns one of the few that I say has true ace frontline upside.

[SPEAKER_03]: I could press it at about maybe five or six [SPEAKER_03]: Burns absolutely is one of them at pick 27 went Carson Benge of the New York Mets I know he didn't have the greatest showing in AAA But still love the all around blend kind of feels like a I hate to say I'm not comping the Matt Shaw But come to some or thought where it's like not one standout tool But just really good across the bore obviously Shaw had a bit of an up and down rookie year with the cubs, but [SPEAKER_03]: Love the all-round, you know, high floor with salt upside kind of packaged that bench brings to the table and should be in the Met's plans for a good chunk of 2026.

[SPEAKER_03]: Then I went back to the Met's and went Jonah Tong, picked 34 again, not usually, you know, your typical air across draft going two pitchers and the verse three rounds.

[SPEAKER_03]: But I like the value on Tong, some of the hitters that are hoping would follow to me did not.

[SPEAKER_03]: So I went to a tawn of the huge huge strikeout right upside there.

[SPEAKER_03]: Maybe a little bit of a higher whip guy or then compared to like other elite guys like him.

[SPEAKER_03]: Maybe he's not like a, you know, someone whip or anything that, but should have plenty of strikeouts there.

[SPEAKER_03]: Browns 4 and 5.

[SPEAKER_03]: Actually, after that, I went very hitter heavy the next, but eight rounds were all hitters.

[SPEAKER_03]: I want Michael Royo in the fourth at Pick 57, Mike Seroda, who I think would have been probably a top 25 pick in this.

[SPEAKER_03]: We didn't miss the last, what, two months of the season, got him pick 64 in the fifth round, your sensing Garcia pick 87 in the sixth round, Jonathan Long pick 94 in the seventh round.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, Eli and Peña when a little upside there is I've gone pretty proximity close guys up until then.

[SPEAKER_03]: So Eli and Peña who had a huge DSL year this year, I pick 117 in the 8th.

[SPEAKER_03]: Spencer Jones, I pick 124 in the 9th.

[SPEAKER_03]: Listen, I don't know.

[SPEAKER_03]: I that point I'm like, alright, why not?

[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I think I've talked about him.

[SPEAKER_03]: 1000 times on this podcast over the last few years obviously huge upside huge risk Who knows how it's gonna plan out about that point?

[SPEAKER_03]: I think it was worth the risk given the upside that he has So he used my ninth rompick 10th round.

[SPEAKER_03]: I went like Irish at pick 147 one of my favorite FYPD guys [SPEAKER_03]: Jacob Melton round 11 and pick 154.

[SPEAKER_03]: Noah Schultz fell to me at pick 177 and round 12.

[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, that's, I don't know, he was one of the top 5-pitch projects in the game this time last year.

[SPEAKER_03]: I see I would have left through it as he pulled up last year's mock draft and seen kind of where he went.

[SPEAKER_03]: But I thought that was a fair value on him then cash may feel that pick 184 and the 13th Irangible of Sintai And which I think I'm still saying that wrong picked 207 and the 14th round 15th round was Jared Thomas outfielder for the Colorado Rockies.

[SPEAKER_03]: That's picked 214 Round 16 through 20.

[SPEAKER_03]: I went Bryce Matthews of the Astros Well, Ron Watts Brown of the Baltimore Oreos, Kevin DeFranck [SPEAKER_03]: of the Miami Marlins, can do Rojas from Minnesota and Drew Gilbert from the Giants, 21-25, [SPEAKER_03]: from Toronto, Marek Houston, who the twin sister after the week forest, 23 was Ryan Johnson of the angels, 24 another 2025 draft the Ethan Petrie for the nationals, around 25 Wyatt Sandford from Pittsburgh, around 26, a big boomer bus prospect in Griffin.

[SPEAKER_03]: percoder from the fillies around 27, my Cal Corrette, from Tampa Bay around 28 went at water bell tray, who fell off pretty hard this year, but still have some upside.

[SPEAKER_03]: So that point at pick 417, why not?

[SPEAKER_03]: Around 29 are not a lentiqua from the Cincinnati Reds from 30 Cadendana from the Los Angeles Angels 31 went back to the angels just while Lugo around 32 was to color Robie from the Cardinals and I actually as a recording this [SPEAKER_03]: I'm on deck to make my 33rd round pick.

[SPEAKER_03]: I actually made my 32nd round pick of Roby later in the podcast, so I kind of actually just spoiled it, because I'm recording this after the fact, and you'll hear it before, I actually make that pick live on the air.

[SPEAKER_03]: So just pretend like you're surprised that you didn't know I picked Roby in the 32nd round, if you want to use that and make a bet with you buddy.

[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, I bet Cross takes Roby here, so yeah, you'll hear that later in the pod that took Roby in the 32nd round.

[SPEAKER_03]: And I am now on deck to make my last pick of this 33 round mock draft.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, so yeah, good time to close it out here.

[SPEAKER_03]: Good timing.

[SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, a lot a lot of picks here.

[SPEAKER_03]: 505 picks Wanted to get a little little deeper with this obviously with some very smart prospect minds.

[SPEAKER_03]: My favorite values of my picks here.

[SPEAKER_03]: I'll give a few of mine and then I'll kind of look at each team.

[SPEAKER_03]: Macgo and like pick by pick for each team here, but I just want to get to get like my favorite.

[SPEAKER_03]: I'll go.

[SPEAKER_03]: I'll give like the first five picks for [SPEAKER_03]: everybody and then give it my favorite pick for each team and then I'll wrap it up and get on to my my first guess in Jesse Roche.

[SPEAKER_03]: So my favorite mocked or my favorite value picks here of this mock draft.

[SPEAKER_03]: I like my cool rollo.

[SPEAKER_03]: In the fourth, I'm a very high, a royal guy.

[SPEAKER_03]: Love Jonathan long in the seventh.

[SPEAKER_03]: I think Jones was a good value pick in the ninth.

[SPEAKER_03]: I like Jacob melt in in the 11th.

[SPEAKER_03]: I love the tip of the front plenty of upset there in the 18th.

[SPEAKER_03]: I think Mark Houston was a good dial you pick in the 22nd.

[SPEAKER_03]: I think he can get slept on these more of a high floor guy, you know, a good defensive shortstop, but you know, good offensive profile too.

[SPEAKER_03]: I like the upside plays of like, you know, kind of per quarter in the 26th and bell 29th.

[SPEAKER_03]: And I think Hayden Dana in Tico Roby in the 30s.

[SPEAKER_03]: I think we're decent values for that late in the draft.

[SPEAKER_03]: have that they've had a rough last couple last year or so, but Roby was turning it around before getting hurt and Dana, you know, still has a good upside, even though the floor is pretty low for him as well.

[SPEAKER_03]: Those are some of my favorite picks here from my draft.

[SPEAKER_03]: So we'll go the, you know, the first five picks and a value pick for everybody else.

[SPEAKER_03]: Martin out of the first slot went Conner Griffin, a pick one, trade a savage at 30.

[SPEAKER_03]: Actually, before I, let me, let me backtrack here.

[SPEAKER_03]: Let me give you the first round entirely.

[SPEAKER_03]: I'll go in the first two rounds in their entirety and then I'll do the team by team thing here.

[SPEAKER_03]: All right, so first round was kind of riffing to Martin.

[SPEAKER_03]: Tim took Kevin McGonagall.

[SPEAKER_03]: Owen went, he's his mod day.

[SPEAKER_03]: I got Chase Burns.

[SPEAKER_03]: Zach Beck got Sebastian Walcott.

[SPEAKER_03]: Pick six Matt Thompson went, JJ weatherholt.

[SPEAKER_03]: Chris Blessing took Leo de Vriesupick's seven.

[SPEAKER_03]: James Anderson took Sammy Bassayo at eight.

[SPEAKER_03]: Chris Welsh took Max Clark at nine.

[SPEAKER_03]: Just he rose with Nolan McLean at pick ten.

[SPEAKER_03]: Matt Eddie took Walker Jenkins at 11, Eda Miller went to Chris Kleg at 12, Luis Peña to Ross Genson at 13, Doc Eisenhower took Colt Emberson at 14, and Jeff Ferned out the first round with Edward Florentino, second round, swingin' around, Jeff took Bryce Eldridge, [SPEAKER_03]: Duck Eisenhower took Thomas White, Ross took Reineel Rodriguez, Cleg took Joe Swede, Paula, Matt Eddie took Bubba Chandler, South Stewart, went to Jesse Roche, that's picked 21, 22 was Travis Bazana to Welsh, 23 Eduardo Cantaro, the James, 24, the first FYPD guy off the board, Ethan Holiday to Blessing, [SPEAKER_03]: 25 was, you know, one of my favorites, Joe's favorite senior, who I was debating at my pick two.

[SPEAKER_03]: I went to Matt at pick what 25.

[SPEAKER_03]: Zyer hope to back at 26.

[SPEAKER_03]: I took our some Benji 27.

[SPEAKER_03]: 28 was Bryce Rainer to Owen.

[SPEAKER_03]: 29 Caleb Bonamer to Tim.

[SPEAKER_03]: And 30, which, I mean, this guy would have gone on several spots higher if we didn't start this before the World Series, Treyus Average went 30 to Martin's Ecclesi.

[SPEAKER_03]: All right.

[SPEAKER_03]: So again, back to the individual team breakdown here.

[SPEAKER_03]: Martin, another one slot to kind of Griffin, then triusage in the second 31, Ryan Walshman in the third, round four, pick 60 to gauge jump and then run five, pick 61, went Harlean, Susana.

[SPEAKER_03]: You might favorite or, you know, one or two of my favorite value picks from Martin.

[SPEAKER_03]: You know, I think, let's see here, Elman Rodriguez Cruz at pick 120 was really good off, you know, pick there, a lot of upside, a lot of good stuff with Rodriguez Cruz.

[SPEAKER_03]: I've seen him a couple of times live now.

[SPEAKER_03]: So that's probably my favorite pick of his, another good pick, value pick Brendan and Winnecker in the 20th at, at, at, at, at 300 exactly on the dot.

[SPEAKER_03]: In the second slot, Tim went Kevin McGonagluck pick two, Caleb Bonumer at 29, Dylan Beavers at 32, Nate George at 59, and I'm gonna talk about Murakami at pick 62.

[SPEAKER_03]: I love that Beavers.

[SPEAKER_03]: I was debating, you know, Beavers myself.

[SPEAKER_03]: Obviously, I'm a big Beavers guy.

[SPEAKER_03]: I was hoping he'd come back around to me and my pick two spots later, but did not.

[SPEAKER_03]: I would have won him over Tom if that had been the case.

[SPEAKER_03]: So good pick there, I think Bieber's is very underrated still.

[SPEAKER_03]: Some other good picks here I liked, or good value picks.

[SPEAKER_03]: I think Hayden Smith at 149, decent value there.

[SPEAKER_03]: And I think Rhett louder at 209.

[SPEAKER_03]: I mean he had a rough 2025 on various levels, but I think louder was a good pick there and way England at 239.

[SPEAKER_03]: Another fun pick there from Tim.

[SPEAKER_03]: Owen, pick three, when Hazard's mod A, Bryce Rainer at 28, Seth Hernandez, kind of upside at 33, Jordan Lawler at 58, and Wiggins at 63.

[SPEAKER_03]: I mentioned this later in the show as well.

[SPEAKER_03]: When I talk to Owen, by love his core pick in the sixth, this chorio pick in the seventh, and his forehead pick in the 16th.

[SPEAKER_03]: Those are the ones that Royce stood out to me.

[SPEAKER_03]: And then at pick five, Zach Beck went Sebastian Walcott, then Zire hope at 26, Peyton, totally at 35, Eva Arquette at 56, and Brayton Montgomery at pick 65.

[SPEAKER_03]: I hear it picks from him, Alejandro Rosario, I was really looking at him pretty soon in the draft.

[SPEAKER_03]: His double tap actually of Rosario and Keaton Scarborough in the 9th and 10th was really good value.

[SPEAKER_03]: And then 11th round as well, Luke Adams.

[SPEAKER_03]: It was a great value.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I think that kind of one of my favorite drafts overall, because I love the value of Quentin Young and the 14th, Jason Lavalette and the 15th.

[SPEAKER_03]: Let's see who else.

[SPEAKER_03]: There's several others that I liked as well.

[SPEAKER_03]: Y'all Frank is steel in the 25th.

[SPEAKER_03]: So I think.

[SPEAKER_03]: back had a really good draft for sure.

[SPEAKER_03]: We'll see six Matt Thompson with JJ Weatherhold, and then Josie Brassignio at 25, love him, obviously.

[SPEAKER_03]: Keon Kulpeper, another guy I like a good bet, 36, Liam Doyle at 55, Jason Lewis at 66.

[SPEAKER_03]: I like Caldwell, I think was good value there.

[SPEAKER_03]: I love Tyson Weatherspoon.

[SPEAKER_03]: Obviously, he's a Red Sox fan too.

[SPEAKER_03]: Really excited for him.

[SPEAKER_03]: I think he'd stand for.

[SPEAKER_03]: was good value in the 14th round.

[SPEAKER_03]: Tink hence, I mean, he's falling off pretty hard, but at pick 306 in the 21st round, I think that was good value for him and then James Trianto.

[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, kind of a, you know, sexiest prospect around, but, you know, in terms of upside, but at pick 366 in the 25th round, I think that was, [SPEAKER_03]: great value there for Matt 7th pick, Chris Blessing, Leo DeVries, then Ethan Hall Day at 24 Ryan Sloan who could be one of the top five pitch projects in the game with this time next year at 37, one Sanchez at 54 Steel Hall at 67 in the fifth round.

[SPEAKER_03]: 20 of upside there from Chris Blessing.

[SPEAKER_03]: Some first-year player draft guys.

[SPEAKER_03]: He went holiday in the second hall in the fifth.

[SPEAKER_03]: He's on Cunningham in the sixth sweater to run in the eighth, nine's in the ten.

[SPEAKER_03]: So a lot of FYPD guys there.

[SPEAKER_03]: And then there's others later on's roll like Brady Abel.

[SPEAKER_03]: a few others too.

[SPEAKER_03]: So a lot of FPD guys for Chris Blessing, my favorite values from him, I think, you know, I mean, first round I think getting to reach at seven was a pretty solid there.

[SPEAKER_03]: I love Ryan's Sloan.

[SPEAKER_03]: I love the upside of Sloan.

[SPEAKER_03]: I love the upside.

[SPEAKER_03]: I've Kevin Alvarez as well.

[SPEAKER_03]: I think Kevin Alvarez were a great value there.

[SPEAKER_03]: Some of the biggest upside from last year's international [SPEAKER_03]: a couple other younger upside guys, which I think was the kind of the theme here with Chris Blessing when a lot of upside, I love the upside picks of Dorian Soto from the Red Soxets pick 2017 in the 15th round and Yurga Batista, it was phenomenal value in the 18th round at pick 264.

[SPEAKER_03]: Next up, James Anderson and the 8th slot.

[SPEAKER_03]: Sidney Bessayo, Eduardo Contaro, 23, Joshua Bias, huge isn't from him at Pick 38.

[SPEAKER_03]: Connally early at 53 and Rolfi Velazquez at Pick 68.

[SPEAKER_03]: Then he went Dex Kilbi, a big riser and that flippity rankings at [SPEAKER_03]: Pick 83 Andrew Fisher.

[SPEAKER_03]: So he wants some he had him in the seventh round gauge word of the ninth.

[SPEAKER_03]: So a lot of FYPD highs in this part kind of the middle part of the draft word here.

[SPEAKER_03]: My favorite values for James.

[SPEAKER_03]: I love the cam cam a nitty pick.

[SPEAKER_03]: in round eight pick one thirteen I think he's in the guy could be in that discussion for you know top pitch about second the game or at least getting up to that top five to eight range or so in rankings I absolutely love the Harry Ford pick we talked about him later in this episode I think that's great value at pick one eighty eight love sit here so far as at pick two [SPEAKER_03]: I still have Soros Rains very highly, but I think the value on him is kind of really tank they're the perceived value, but he's still a very solid pitching prospect.

[SPEAKER_03]: So a lot of a lot of good picks are from James Anderson.

[SPEAKER_03]: Max Clark went to Welsh at nine and they followed that up with Bizana at 22.

[SPEAKER_03]: Lazaro Montez at 39.

[SPEAKER_03]: George Lombard at 52.

[SPEAKER_03]: and run four, and then run five, pick 69.

[SPEAKER_03]: Nice, fell on and Celestine of Seattle.

[SPEAKER_03]: Well, obviously, one of the brightest guys out there, always at the field.

[SPEAKER_03]: I like the Esmerland Valdez pick at pick 99, obviously, you know, mashing out in the AFL currently.

[SPEAKER_03]: I love the journey level pick at pick 142 in the 10th round Chris Rodriguez in the 12th and let's see here.

[SPEAKER_03]: Now there was one more later on the oh yeah you're undery Vargas went the 24th to him.

[SPEAKER_03]: I think it's phenomenal value and then it's just a shout out.

[SPEAKER_03]: I don't have this good value or not but Daniel is being known went to Willow's pick 262.

[SPEAKER_03]: He's throwing again [SPEAKER_03]: big wave and seen Espino in like 15 years at this point, but I'm super excited to see Espino.

[SPEAKER_03]: I'm broke up and then I'll pull him before I get out there.

[SPEAKER_03]: I want to see him like, almost more than anybody else.

[SPEAKER_03]: He's not with you.

[SPEAKER_03]: So that was Welsh.

[SPEAKER_03]: Just he rose at pick 10.

[SPEAKER_03]: I loved the Carson Williams pick at pick one 11.

[SPEAKER_03]: I loved the Tommy Troy pick at 171.

[SPEAKER_03]: at 201, and then Colette E.

Rosario, and [SPEAKER_03]: exact being at 321 and 340.

[SPEAKER_03]: His first five picks were known in the clean at 10.

[SPEAKER_03]: South Stewart at 21.

[SPEAKER_03]: Andrew painter at 40, rookie Suzuki, who was ended up being, he was eligible, I think he kind of like, we've a lot of us forgot about him.

[SPEAKER_03]: Me because I don't rank guys at Suzuki, the Japanese guys in my prostric rankings.

[SPEAKER_03]: I do with my FYPD and my dynasty rankings, but I don't know that's always been kind of a gray area for me.

[SPEAKER_03]: Maybe I'll start including them.

[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.

[SPEAKER_03]: Let's see.

[SPEAKER_03]: But obviously a phenomenal value getting saw here there, but he's a came in the fourth and then Owen Casey in the fifth.

[SPEAKER_03]: Matt Eddie took Walker Jenkins at pick 11, Baba Chandler at 20, Jet Williams at 41, Robbie Snellling, who had a phenomenal year at 50.

[SPEAKER_03]: and Cooper Pratt, picks 71 in the fifth round.

[SPEAKER_03]: My favorite picks from Matt were Ethan Conrad when my favorite FIPD guys.

[SPEAKER_03]: He got him at pick 101.

[SPEAKER_03]: I think Sprote at 161, Brandon Sprote.

[SPEAKER_03]: I was a good pick there.

[SPEAKER_03]: I think, I was the other one that liked here.

[SPEAKER_03]: I had circle for was it.

[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, Gabriel Rancones, I picked through 71.

[SPEAKER_03]: I think it was really good value as well.

[SPEAKER_03]: All right, Chris Kleg took eight a miller at pick 12, just way they Paula and 19, kid Anderson at 42, joining for Melo at 49, and Moja's Ballasteros at 72, you know, kid Anderson, why have us my number two F equity guy.

[SPEAKER_03]: And that was good value there.

[SPEAKER_03]: As she thought he'd go a bit higher.

[SPEAKER_03]: I think he was the [SPEAKER_03]: 11th or 12th picture off the board in this mock draft.

[SPEAKER_03]: So I think maybe the 42 isn't like phenomenal value.

[SPEAKER_03]: I think I do think it is decent value, but I think there's Anderson being the 12th picture off the boards given how early pictures were going in this draft.

[SPEAKER_03]: I think that was good value.

[SPEAKER_03]: for him being the 12th pitcher off the board.

[SPEAKER_03]: Some other values of clags that I liked were both David Sin, Epic 109 in the eighth round.

[SPEAKER_03]: I liked Jason Chirrio, who had a lot of hype last year, kind of fell off a bit this year, but he got him at 252, I think that's what I'm going to value.

[SPEAKER_03]: Charlie Soto, 259, I think is incredible value.

[SPEAKER_03]: I saw one of the more lively arms in the minor leagues.

[SPEAKER_03]: So I love that value and I was the other one here.

[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah, I loved [SPEAKER_03]: uh, Braxton Bragg at 372 and there's one more.

[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, Dylan Lewis, he's, he's, he's, he's fun.

[SPEAKER_03]: It's, Elfio brought him for the Yankees fun, you know, there's some concerns there, but he could be a big boomer bus guy as well.

[SPEAKER_03]: And then Batonty, the same thing.

[SPEAKER_03]: Batonty, big upside, big downside.

[SPEAKER_03]: He took him in the 19th, the 282, kind of see how that pans out.

[SPEAKER_03]: So some potential big value picks there for Cleg.

[SPEAKER_03]: In the 13 slot, Ross went Luis Pena at 13.

[SPEAKER_03]: Rainier Rodriguez, one of the biggest breakouts of 2025 and 18.

[SPEAKER_03]: Frequent on areas at 43.

[SPEAKER_03]: A manual of regas at 48.

[SPEAKER_03]: And Alfredo Duno at 73.

[SPEAKER_03]: My favorite values for Ross of Duno and the fifth was solid value there.

[SPEAKER_03]: Email Morales 78 was great value.

[SPEAKER_03]: I had him in my board.

[SPEAKER_03]: I wanted to take him by said, and the guys I like the more that we're following.

[SPEAKER_03]: So I ended up not getting Morales obviously.

[SPEAKER_03]: I think that was a pretty good value there.

[SPEAKER_03]: I think Iran is strata from Baltimore in the 11th round.

[SPEAKER_03]: was good value, and also, where was the other one here?

[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah, right there.

[SPEAKER_03]: A Biblical Ortiz epic 288, I think, was pretty good value as well.

[SPEAKER_03]: 14, Doc went Cole Emerson, the Thomas White at 17, Eli Willett at 44, the number one pick from the 2025 draft, Carter Jensen at 47, and just a proper at 74.

[SPEAKER_03]: I think my favorite one's absolutely from from Doc were Charlie Condon at 77.

[SPEAKER_03]: I think it's really good value there.

[SPEAKER_03]: I liked his little trio in the 11th, 12th and 13th.

[SPEAKER_03]: Blake Burrick, David Shields, and Eden Smith.

[SPEAKER_03]: Specifically as values, I think Shields and Smith, especially stand out there and then later in the draft, Victor Figaroa in the 25th of former San Diego Cross right now with Baltimore because they trade everybody and anybody out of that San Diego system.

[SPEAKER_03]: I think that was good value for doc as well.

[SPEAKER_03]: And then rounding things out, Jeff Ponds out of the 15 slot, Edward Florentino, Bryce Eldridge at 16, Joshua DeHaser's Gonzalez at 45, Georgia Parker at my number one FYPD guy at 46, and Chase the Latter at 75.

[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, obviously the Latter's phenomenal value.

[SPEAKER_03]: there.

[SPEAKER_03]: I always heard way too cute with it and let the louder slide.

[SPEAKER_03]: I'll shouldn't get him one more rounds in the eighth, but I we did one round too long because Jeff scooped him up.

[SPEAKER_03]: But I want to value there.

[SPEAKER_03]: I think we're so mire solid value.

[SPEAKER_03]: Right, very next pick at pick 76.

[SPEAKER_03]: I think TDM in at 176 is is fun value there burdened summer hill.

[SPEAKER_03]: Good FIPD guy at 223.

[SPEAKER_03]: I think it's good to value Bryce Cunningham at 255.

[SPEAKER_03]: I think it's good value.

[SPEAKER_03]: Alex Clummy dig upside at pick 315, that was a fun pick.

[SPEAKER_03]: And Gavin Turley isn't another FWD guy.

[SPEAKER_03]: I like at pick 405 to the athletics.

[SPEAKER_03]: So those are the value picks I liked of Jeff.

[SPEAKER_03]: So there's my little segment of this episode.

[SPEAKER_03]: And I'll be back in after the little commercial or ad break here, whatever you want to call it with Jesse Roche.

[SPEAKER_03]: All right, my first guest in this recap episode of the industry mock draft, Mr.

Jesse Rose from baseball prospectus, he's a dynasty baseball writer and ranker over there.

[SPEAKER_03]: Also, co-hosts of the Tino podcast, there is no off season at J.A.

[SPEAKER_03]: Rose R.O.C.H.E.

[SPEAKER_03]: the number six on Twitter.

[SPEAKER_03]: Jesse, how's it going, bud?

[SPEAKER_00]: It's good.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's good.

[SPEAKER_00]: Always fun to mock, especially mock as deep as we have.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, if it was good to do like a little deeper.

[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, maybe we could have cut a few rounds off of this, but yeah, I felt like around 500 is pretty fun.

[SPEAKER_00]: It is fun.

[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's 30 rounds.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think it's fun.

[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's fun for readers.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's fun for people to see where certain players kind of fall because Mox or tricky, they're tricky for evaluation purposes, but you know, [SPEAKER_00]: It's still just, there's a lot of great names that you can find late.

[SPEAKER_00]: I rank up to 500 prospects.

[SPEAKER_00]: I actually just release my top 500 dynasty rankings for prospects at baseball perspectives on Halloween.

[SPEAKER_00]: So this is all very fresh for me.

[SPEAKER_00]: So it's been a lot of fun.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, absolutely, and it's fun too because, you know, obviously a lot of us know each other, you know, kind of know some of our preferences, we've been in leagues together, at their mock drafts together, so, you know, it's kind of fun like we go, like, I know like, oh, I Chris Welsh is super high in this guy, so he might take him soon, so it's always funny that fun to see kind of like where things actually shake down like a full.

[SPEAKER_03]: mock draft like this, but you know, when we into the later rounds, that's why I love doing like, you know, 500ish picks is because we're you're saying before we hit record some of these names that haven't popping up in the late rounds that we're like, oh, hey, remember when that guy was a hot prospect name a year or two ago, some of these guys are just kind of falling off the last [SPEAKER_03]: You know, 12, 18, 24 months, you know, like, like, for instance, you know, Yola and Cessbidus just went in like the 31st round.

[SPEAKER_03]: Now, we have, like, I just, I cooked Keaton Dana in the 30th round, you know, guys like that, you know, Jesse, you just took Sterling Thompson, you know, a few minutes ago in the 31st round, like he was like a top 100-ish guy for a little bit.

[SPEAKER_03]: So, you know, it's fun to see where these guys kind of fall.

[SPEAKER_03]: later on the draft, but before we get into the actual picks here, and obviously, Jesse, you play in a lot of currency leagues, you do currency and prospect rankings, and from what I've seen from this being in leagues, whether you're pretty successful at currency league managers.

[SPEAKER_03]: So I want to start out with some strategy here before we get into some player discussion.

[SPEAKER_03]: Now, how do you, you know, I guess we're a little too part or here, you know, when you in a brand new dynasty league, I know there's, you know, a lot of differences in dynasty leagues, you know, especially like the one we're in together to the Highlander.

[SPEAKER_03]: is that's a bit different format, but just in general, how do you approach your initial dynasty leak draft of getting, attacking prospects, and then as you're two, year three, year four, et cetera, what does it have your strategy and how you manage your prospect roster, so to speak?

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so in startups, I typically try to build a sustainable roster that is immediately competitive.

[SPEAKER_00]: I want to try and win year one, but I'm not really trying to build for like immediate win now.

[SPEAKER_00]: Usually year two is where I become very competitive and that means I actually don't really target prospects very heavily at all.

[SPEAKER_00]: I think prospects are typically overvalued, and I see, especially for startups.

[SPEAKER_00]: And so I'll just take value where I find it.

[SPEAKER_00]: Generally, if I like a good value, if I've filled needs on my roster, I will then move to potentially getting prospects for a variety of reasons.

[SPEAKER_00]: One, because you can trade prospects.

[SPEAKER_00]: And I think they're one, there are pieces that a lot of people will have interest in, and it's something if you're trying to win.

[SPEAKER_00]: you don't want to completely ignore them, because those are players you can then flip later.

[SPEAKER_00]: But typically, I like getting prospects off of waivers and free agency or just finding prospects, rather than drafting them.

[SPEAKER_00]: I typically just don't draft prospects very much in startups.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that's definitely, you know, I've always said there's a kind of three strategies, you know, kind of the more winnow approach, kind of the winsoon approach, you go a little bit of both and then I've seen people that go completely win later, which I think can have its perks, but I think it's the riskiest way.

[SPEAKER_03]: I just try to go kind of the middle ground, leaning a little bit more towards the winnow side where yeah, I'm trying to like, [SPEAKER_03]: You know, feel a competitive team.

[SPEAKER_03]: We're like, hey, if certain things break right and then some of these guys come up, I could maybe you know, make a run at a title or like a money spot finish in year one, but yeah, year two, that's where I'm like, all right, that's kind of what I'm aiming for as well.

[SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, I feel like we're pretty similar in that line of thinking.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it depends on league too.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, I know your league mates.

[SPEAKER_00]: I think win later is very dangerous, especially if you're a league with people who are reluctant to trade, because they involve you have to trade a lot.

[SPEAKER_00]: And there are certain people who can do that very effectively in active leagues where they are incredibly active people.

[SPEAKER_00]: So if you're not a very active trader do not ever do win later, it's just not you have to It needs you need to trade all the all the time.

[SPEAKER_00]: Someone like a Tom Trudeau Those are the people Ian Khan Jordan Rosenblum [SPEAKER_00]: The the famous in the industry people who will trade a ton their people who can affect you eat that strategy successfully But they also still need to have willing trade partners that they can participate with because otherwise It's just really hard to do that.

[SPEAKER_00]: I think generally too Dicellies are not guaranteed to last Even if with a strong group of owners so you know, I like to try and target win soon anyway [SPEAKER_00]: no matter what, just because it's less risky and I like trying to be competitive right away, it's fine.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and as we found, I'm sure you and I both been in various leagues over the years that have folded year two, year three, I'd love to see like a breakout of like what percent of dinosaur leagues make it, you know, past like, let's say at first three years.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I see.

[SPEAKER_03]: I think that industry is 50-50?

[SPEAKER_00]: probably.

[SPEAKER_00]: I think industry leagues last don't last as long generally because of all the other commitments people have in those leagues.

[SPEAKER_00]: I think if you have a good group of close friends, it's more likely to last long a long period of time.

[SPEAKER_00]: But for people who, like, we're clean into this through the industries or friends, but, you know, we all are in so many leagues that dropping an industry league isn't a huge issue for us.

[SPEAKER_00]: We don't want to do it.

[SPEAKER_00]: I don't try.

[SPEAKER_00]: really have to and I haven't really ever dropped any industry leagues, but they fold because you lose four or five owners in one off season gets really difficult to replace competent people and continue.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, absolutely.

[SPEAKER_03]: You and I both and the highly interlead together, which is going into in the year four now, right?

[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you're four.

[SPEAKER_03]: Perfect.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's going pretty strong.

[SPEAKER_00]: That's very strong.

[SPEAKER_00]: There has been some turnover but it's going well.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, absolutely.

[SPEAKER_03]: All right, let's get into some picks here.

[SPEAKER_03]: Jesse was drafting out of the 10 slots.

[SPEAKER_03]: And as his draft is kind of very on points, especially his first, the top of the draft, he had a lot of guys that are either already debuted, your intripley, got a debut next year.

[SPEAKER_03]: As he was very on point with his draft.

[SPEAKER_03]: So at the 10 slot, he took Nolan McLean, obviously, whether a phenomenal, [SPEAKER_03]: You know, eight start debut with the New York Metz down the stretch and for reference, the first nine picks in front of no one McLean going to Jesse at pic 10.

[SPEAKER_03]: We're Connor Griffin Kevin McGonagall.

[SPEAKER_03]: He's was mod day.

[SPEAKER_03]: I took chase burns of pick four Sebastian Walcott, JJ weatherhole Leo de Vries.

[SPEAKER_03]: Samuel Bassayo and Max Clark.

[SPEAKER_03]: So those are the nine leading up the Jesse picking McLean at pick Tim.

[SPEAKER_03]: And then his next four picks here.

[SPEAKER_03]: So we'll kind of talk about the first five picks here.

[SPEAKER_03]: At pick 20, it was at pick 21 second round.

[SPEAKER_03]: He went south steward.

[SPEAKER_03]: Obviously, also debut.

[SPEAKER_03]: He had a handful of homers down the stretch for the reds round three.

[SPEAKER_03]: And so that would be pick 40.

[SPEAKER_03]: He went Andrew Painter.

[SPEAKER_03]: I thought we would use a debut this year, but no dice so far.

[SPEAKER_03]: Brown Ford, Jesse took Rokey Suzuki, which good fine on Jesse's part.

[SPEAKER_03]: We did say that we were only doing the 130 advance and 50 innings pitch threshold, so Rokey's hockey was eligible, so he went to Jesse in round four, and then round five, Owen Casey, Elfield Prosthik for the Chicago Cubs.

[SPEAKER_03]: So we'll start here with McLean here in the first rounds.

[SPEAKER_03]: as I mentioned, phenomenal debut from a clean, what do you, what do your thoughts on?

[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, obviously you're super high and I'm taking them, 10th overall in the draft, but like just how good do you think, McLean can be?

[SPEAKER_03]: Obviously he had, you know, he'd rise in the minor leagues who's a kind of a late bloomer in terms of being in a full-time pitcher.

[SPEAKER_03]: Obviously you used to be a two-way guy up until I think 2023 or four was the first year like he didn't do [SPEAKER_03]: No one McQueen can be like, do you think he has like front line upside?

[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, where are you at on him long term?

[SPEAKER_00]: I think he's a step behind front line upside.

[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think he has that type of strikeout upside that you're maybe wanting to target.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's not like a Tariq school ball or a Gertkurshae type strikeout upside here.

[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's just going to be excellent ratios and solid strikeouts and just a very [SPEAKER_00]: long period time and someone who can do it right away.

[SPEAKER_00]: And proximity, I think's underrated in a lot of ways when you're looking at prospects.

[SPEAKER_00]: Someone who's proven it, who has, you know, the underlying stuff that supports the performance.

[SPEAKER_00]: And I think that's the big thing when the clean.

[SPEAKER_00]: This is a huge, this huge spin rates.

[SPEAKER_00]: He's always had huge spin rates, but you know, the commands come along along a long way.

[SPEAKER_00]: He has a [SPEAKER_00]: deep repertoire, you know, the breaking balls, of course, are just stellar standout offerings, you know, plus plus sweeper, plus plus curve ball, you know, they are bat missing pitches, but those types of pitches sweepers and curve balls with that type of movement are not typically going to be pitches that move mischers in sane levels of bats, you know, they're more of a contact management type pitch that you induce weak contact, you will miss bats, but [SPEAKER_00]: 12 K per 9 type strikeout rates.

[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, he'll probably linger around 9 to 10 K per 9, which is, you know, solid, but it's not going to be that type of pitcher, but it's just, you know, a quality arm.

[SPEAKER_00]: I think the fastballs are not going to be stand out pitches.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's a low release pitch, low release fastball, but, you know, they don't have the type of.

[SPEAKER_00]: Elite carry you want to see in a bat missing fastball this is you know a sinker and heavy movement pitch You know this is a pitch that just induces ground balls induces.

[SPEAKER_00]: We contact as in it's you know an east west type profile I'm a big fan of McLean.

[SPEAKER_00]: Obviously, you know, I took him 10th of all.

[SPEAKER_00]: I also just think that there's a lot of There's you can choose a go a lot different directions, especially I think after like the top five [SPEAKER_00]: prospects.

[SPEAKER_00]: I think the top three in my mind and he's hopped three or kind of sentenced stone right now with Connor Griffin on his own island.

[SPEAKER_00]: Then, you know, Kim McGonagall and he's just mod day.

[SPEAKER_00]: I think that those are, that's how I rank them.

[SPEAKER_00]: I think they're like locked in top three.

[SPEAKER_00]: Actually, I think it's very close between Chase Burns and Nolan McLean.

[SPEAKER_00]: I actually prefer McLean personally, just because I think that the depth, I don't think he is the upside of Burns mind you.

[SPEAKER_00]: But, you know, the depth, what he's proven, the team he's on, I just think there's a lot of excellent performance right now, and what he can do for me now is puts him where he or a hat.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I mean, he's probably one of the, I mean, the National League and America, like really rookie of the year.

[SPEAKER_03]: races next year should be like on paper like phenomenal races this will all these pictures that came up late in the year you know the clean tongue is savage you know early totally et cetera so it should be a lot of good rookie pictures next year obviously wouldn't clean so being eligible and yeah I definitely agree like I when I did the you know hit the randomized button when I was setting up the draft and I saw that I picked four on my own crap I don't want to pick four because I wrote I felt there's not a lot of gap between like four and really [SPEAKER_03]: be like 10, 11, 12 to be honest with you.

[SPEAKER_03]: So I was hoping, I knew Griffith and I could work on a follow.

[SPEAKER_03]: I knew there's zero chance of that.

[SPEAKER_03]: I'm like, oh, maybe he's just mod a, you know, follows.

[SPEAKER_03]: And then when someone else had number three, but no, no dice.

[SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, I agree.

[SPEAKER_03]: I slide before burns over McLean.

[SPEAKER_03]: I don't think there's a big gap.

[SPEAKER_03]: There.

[SPEAKER_03]: So if I was in your spot at 10, I would have definitely said I have McLean like 9th of my rankings right now.

[SPEAKER_03]: So [SPEAKER_03]: I definitely would have been tempted to take McLean there in the first round as well.

[SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, he can really spin it.

[SPEAKER_03]: Like you see, like any time you watch his pitches, like his pitches, absolutely move.

[SPEAKER_03]: Like they're withable ball type offerings, you know, like the sweeper and the curve ball with a sweeper would average 2929 RPM, curve ball is 3248.

[SPEAKER_03]: insane spin rates on those two pitches there.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I love McLean, because he can miss bats at a good clip and get ground balls.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, 60% ground ball rate, this year, things like that.

[SPEAKER_03]: Sanker, like you mentioned, so yeah, a lot of good there.

[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, the match got him, tongue, sprote, like they got some good arms there, especially tongue and McLean, those two, especially over sprotes.

[SPEAKER_03]: be fun to see how they how many innings those got as gets in 2026.

[SPEAKER_03]: Now it's up with the other pitcher here.

[SPEAKER_03]: You took in the first three rounds and round three going Andrew Painter.

[SPEAKER_03]: Obviously got that spin and a number one or you know at least top five pitching project for a while now.

[SPEAKER_03]: But he was actually the you would see one, two, three, five, six, seven, eight, nine.

[SPEAKER_03]: He was a tenth [SPEAKER_03]: Thomas White, Bubba Chandler, Triusavage, Sethor, Hernandez, Jonah Tong, Payton Toli, and Ryan Sloan.

[SPEAKER_03]: So obviously, you know, we thought Painter was gonna debut this year, like July August, that did not happen.

[SPEAKER_03]: I feel like the perceived value has dipped a little bit, but it has it for you, Jesse.

[SPEAKER_03]: Are you still thinking that, hey, this year was just kind of like a get back into the rhythm and kept a year, and you still think they're the same upside that we thought he had a few years ago before, all the injuries and time off, or has your thought process with painter changed?

[SPEAKER_03]: Are you a little bit less high in him now, and where are you at on him now?

[SPEAKER_00]: Not as high as I was, certainly, but, you know, he's recovering from very serious injury, I think that he's, we need a year to kind of get his footing and going right to Triple I Triple A is just a very difficult run environment right now, very difficult place to pitch.

[SPEAKER_00]: generally the stuff's very good still, you know, I think that the fastballs are very clear, we're clearly a plus pitch.

[SPEAKER_00]: I actually think the break he balls him improved since he's returned.

[SPEAKER_00]: So I think the stuff's quite good, the command needs to get back to where it was.

[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, the bait, that's the biggest thing.

[SPEAKER_00]: And that's one of the things that's very often a very difficult thing to get back after you were covered from Tom and John surgery.

[SPEAKER_00]: So [SPEAKER_00]: one that does return.

[SPEAKER_00]: I do expect him to kind of get back to where he was.

[SPEAKER_00]: But yes, obviously his perceived value has diminished certainly since his due to his struggles this year.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I still think that painters are decent by low.

[SPEAKER_03]: I think with the perceived value dipping on him.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I'm there with you.

[SPEAKER_03]: I don't, I'm still high on painter.

[SPEAKER_03]: I would have considered him [SPEAKER_03]: I agree that I'm not quite as high as I was, but I'm still high.

[SPEAKER_03]: I don't think he's gonna be like front line like Sa Jung type, which I thought, even when I saw him in the AFL last year, I was just one of his first outings at all after having surgery set.

[SPEAKER_03]: He was very rusty, but you still saw the flashes of the stuff of the VLO.

[SPEAKER_03]: He was like, all right, there.

[SPEAKER_03]: You still see the Andrew Painterable in there, obviously.

[SPEAKER_03]: Wasn't exactly him to be right back into it, you know, 100% in those outing.

[SPEAKER_03]: So it was definitely encouraging.

[SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, I saw something that was a very, very good picture here.

[SPEAKER_03]: Maybe like a top, you know, 30 to 40 fantasy arm or something like that in there.

[SPEAKER_03]: Maybe even higher than that.

[SPEAKER_03]: I wouldn't even...

[SPEAKER_03]: We roll up, you know, top 20, 25 range, so there's still plenty of ups at there.

[SPEAKER_03]: So I don't use top 20 ups on it, certainly.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's just about getting the command back.

[SPEAKER_03]: Right.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_03]: So if you, if you can get them for like 80, 90 cents on the dollar right now, especially if you're a team looking for some pitching soon in dinosaur leagues, and obviously to a debut at some point in 2026, we'll, we'll see, you know, health of Zach Wheeler next year.

[SPEAKER_03]: You know, it will be a big part of it.

[SPEAKER_03]: See how many openings are on that rotation.

[SPEAKER_03]: So we'll see, but yeah, still pretty high on Andrew Painter there.

[SPEAKER_03]: All right, let's go to picks six through 10.

[SPEAKER_03]: Jesse went origin to Mala.

[SPEAKER_03]: Short stop prospect for the Toronto Blue Jays in around six.

[SPEAKER_03]: Troy Melton, pitcher for Detroit Tigers in the round seven.

[SPEAKER_03]: Carson Williams, short stop for the Tampa Bay race in round eight.

[SPEAKER_03]: TJ K-Fis, corner infielder, outfielder as well for the Cleveland Guard game.

[SPEAKER_03]: in round nine and then round ten went Japanese free agent who just was posted or scottie posted his office and Kazima Okamoto in round ten.

[SPEAKER_03]: I had a really good career over there so we'll see how that translates.

[SPEAKER_03]: The two I wanted to kind of talk about in this section were Namala and Carson Williams.

[SPEAKER_03]: No, we'll start with Carson Williams, he got the, you know, a little bit of a cup of coffee down the stretch.

[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, if you just eliminated hit tool all together, you know, Carson Williams, we had top 10 prospect, both in fantasy and overall, because, you know, this power, their speed, phenomenal, the older, you know, could be a, you know, got it when's multiple gold gloves in this career, good arm, all of that.

[SPEAKER_03]: But, [SPEAKER_03]: You know, as we've seen, the averages have been really low in the minor leagues, you know, lower contact rates, higher, you know, swing and miss rates, you know, higher strike out rate.

[SPEAKER_03]: And then we saw a bit of that with Tampa Bay 41 and a half percent key rate in a hundred and six play appearances.

[SPEAKER_03]: And yeah, that's a very small sample size, but it kind of shows like there are some works there, but he also had five hundred runs to steal.

[SPEAKER_03]: So it kind of showed, you know, a bit of everything.

[SPEAKER_03]: thing in his debut with Tampa Bay kind of what we expected so now what he thought so on him long term if you think Williams can hit enough even if it's just hit it in like man what 23240 he can hit enough to kind of maximize you know that power speed get on base and let's steal some bags and be you know a solid fantasy asset down the road [SPEAKER_03]: maybe.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's a hard question.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's a calculated risk here.

[SPEAKER_00]: You know, Carson Williams, I got at one 11 overall.

[SPEAKER_00]: And I think it's that price point.

[SPEAKER_00]: He's only 22 years old.

[SPEAKER_00]: You know, he's been pushed very aggressively through the minor leagues.

[SPEAKER_00]: The contact rates are dreadful, right?

[SPEAKER_00]: His is contact rate in trouble.

[SPEAKER_00]: I this year was about 65% or 63% sorry.

[SPEAKER_00]: 63.5% which, you know, is well below average.

[SPEAKER_00]: And then you probably give it like a 30 grade right now.

[SPEAKER_00]: I would probably.

[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I think that there's a chance, you know, he's so young still the power and speed is very real and the defense is solid.

[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, he's 107 mile an hour, 90th percentile X of velocity, he's had huge power over the course of his career, still so young, you know, if he makes any kind of strides with the hit tool that if his, let's say his in zone contact, [SPEAKER_00]: gets anywhere near 80% for example.

[SPEAKER_00]: I think there's a chance he could be a very good fancy player.

[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I think you'll often hear cops to like Trevor's story type cops for someone like Carson Williams and you know, those were maybe more banded about more often a few years ago than they are now or even just last year.

[SPEAKER_00]: I really do think we shouldn't be writing off players this young with these types of tools who have this sub proximity.

[SPEAKER_00]: He's a player that if you can get this price point for [SPEAKER_00]: He's basically like a waver wire type in shallow leagues.

[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's worth trying to take a shot on him.

[SPEAKER_00]: He's going to get opportunities as soon as this is coming here.

[SPEAKER_00]: And at worst he'll be a batting average sink, but he'll give you power and speed.

[SPEAKER_00]: And so I just think there's a zero percent chance he's going to give you no value.

[SPEAKER_00]: and personally zero may be a little bit too ambitious there, but I think it's very low low likely who do you'll give you no value at all.

[SPEAKER_00]: You'll give you something and there's a real chance that you give you a lot of value with the power and speed if you can get, again, to that two thirty, two forty average, maybe even more based on, you know, batting average or balls and play may make it a boost because he hits the ball so hard.

[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, we'll say, [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, definitely like that power speed is there.

[SPEAKER_03]: He's shown that consistently, you know, plenty of home runs and seals in my leagues.

[SPEAKER_03]: Again, five home runs, two seals with Tampa Bay down the stretch.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, he should get plenty of run because you'll get, you know, the Brendan Lau, uh, soon Brendan Lau is has a club option.

[SPEAKER_03]: for the next year's second base, which I assume they're going to pick up, but short stop, it's Taylor Wall, Spritchy Palacios.

[SPEAKER_03]: Those guys aren't really going to hold Carson Williams back.

[SPEAKER_03]: So, if Tampa Bay thinks that he's ready to take over full time in 2026, whether that's opening day or May June, we'll see.

[SPEAKER_03]: Maybe it's another little cup of coffee in Triple Light Durham before the, he gets fully brought up, but yeah, I think you'll see him more in the majors than the miners [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, if you can just hit 23240, I mean, this 2020 upside, you know, that defense will help keep them in the lineup, they're, you know, during some coal search set to play, you know, obviously Tampa Bay value sets.

[SPEAKER_03]: So every team values had obviously defense up the middle of that Williams brings.

[SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, he's kind of an interesting one, but yeah, I still like Williams.

[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not like out in the him by any means, but yeah, those contact rates definitely concerning without question.

[SPEAKER_00]: But again, you know, at 1-11, yeah, that's worth a shot.

[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, if we're talking about like, absolutely, I think the risk is too high at that point, but I still really like him.

[SPEAKER_00]: I think I even rank him fairly aggressively.

[SPEAKER_00]: I'm probably going to be one of the higher people on him right now.

[SPEAKER_00]: They rank him about 60.

[SPEAKER_00]: If overall, which I'm pretty sure is probably higher than most, I just think the proximity and what he could potentially bring to table with Bauer of Spears just too good to pass up.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, absolutely.

[SPEAKER_03]: I have to pick 100.

[SPEAKER_03]: That's absolutely great.

[SPEAKER_03]: Val, you see where do I have him?

[SPEAKER_03]: I have him at, yeah, I'm probably summers close to you.

[SPEAKER_03]: I have him at 61.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I feel like this because he, there's a good, like, [SPEAKER_03]: the rest of the rest of the profile was really, really good, right?

[SPEAKER_03]: So I feel like I'm hoping I'm like, just give me something with the hit, so we'll don't be, don't be 30, Greg.

[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, if you can stiff 40, which might be asking a lot, but I think you could be a pretty darn good, both real-life player and fantasy player for a long time.

[SPEAKER_03]: Next one here, ours in Namala, [SPEAKER_03]: had a up and down here in the high A, but still 19 years old, so it's hard to really fault them too much, but it ended up being a 224, 313, 381 slash line in 120 games in high A, 13 home runs, 17 steals, a 10% walk rate and a 21 and a half percent strikeout rates in 543 play appearances.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I've seen a lot of varying kind of valuations of the model, I think there's a pretty wide range of [SPEAKER_03]: of prospect rankings for him.

[SPEAKER_03]: I see something like, oh, hey, he's top 25.

[SPEAKER_03]: Others are like, oh, maybe he's not even top 100.

[SPEAKER_03]: I think I'm kind of in the middle of that.

[SPEAKER_03]: I am ranked in that 70 range or so right now.

[SPEAKER_03]: So where are you?

[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, obviously you like him.

[SPEAKER_03]: You drafted them here, Jesse, but what do you see in the profile from the model?

[SPEAKER_03]: Obviously, big power, not really a speed guy.

[SPEAKER_03]: You know, he stole some bags this year.

[SPEAKER_03]: But what kind of player are you expecting, the model that turned into down the road?

[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I think that there is big power here.

[SPEAKER_00]: He's so very young, of course, you know, he was playing a fairly aggressive assignments.

[SPEAKER_00]: He obviously fell apart toward the end of the year, but he performed quite well for a long period of time.

[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I just think that there's a lot to like with the power.

[SPEAKER_00]: I think that the hits was coming along.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's a work in progress.

[SPEAKER_00]: He entered us a probe as with, you know, [SPEAKER_00]: I guess more of all the most prep prospects, and I think that with more development time, we'll see I think he has a chance to develop into a potential even average hit tool.

[SPEAKER_00]: I think that there's potential for that right now.

[SPEAKER_00]: The contact rates are not by no means are they dreadful.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's about 73 percent contact rate, which is not [SPEAKER_00]: which is well within the, you know, a solid range of outcomes for his age.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that's fine, sure.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, there's a lot of power potential here.

[SPEAKER_00]: He's already starting to tap into it.

[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I think that there's a chance he could develop.

[SPEAKER_00]: And so, like, up to 52, 60 hitter with 25,ish home runs, you know, tossing some steals.

[SPEAKER_00]: I don't really think that home is going to be part of his game long term.

[SPEAKER_00]: But, you know, I think that that's a, you know, very good fancy prospect, especially, you know, [SPEAKER_00]: You know, last short subs, you know, there's a lot of quality there these days, but you know, I think it's it's it's a good prospect that I do think people are very quick to turn on players when they have rough stretches.

[SPEAKER_00]: And I think that's what's what we're seeing here with Nemala.

[SPEAKER_00]: I was not, I was nowhere near the highman on Nemala when he was at his best this year, you know, when people were raking in close to top 10.

[SPEAKER_00]: I always had him around 50 and [SPEAKER_00]: You know, I really kind of think that's where he still is because I think the upsides very big still with Nimala and, you know, again, he's very young.

[SPEAKER_00]: If he crashes and burns next year, I think obviously opinions will change.

[SPEAKER_00]: I think that my hope for his hits will potentially develop into an average hit will may go out the window if, you know, a lot of his trouble, second half struggles kind of continue into the spring.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and I think one thing that needs to be remembered with the mall as well.

[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, is that he was up in Vancouver this year in the Northwest league.

[SPEAKER_03]: This is a kid from Florida who is all you know, he put at the complex level in 2023, complex and then low aid in Eden, which is in Florida in 2024, I think to go like diagonally 3000 miles across, you know, end to Vancouver into a much different weather situation that he's never played in.

[SPEAKER_03]: I think that he's a big kind of thing.

[SPEAKER_03]: Remembered as well that that's a big difference.

[SPEAKER_03]: for anybody that's not used to really playing and cold weather or just not in the warm floor to weather.

[SPEAKER_03]: This ideal base for weather down there.

[SPEAKER_03]: So that was a big difference for a 19 year old also facing mostly older competitions, one of the younger ones at the level last year.

[SPEAKER_03]: I've never been with a higher people on the model, but I think there's [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I'm pretty right with you.

[SPEAKER_03]: I feel there's like, you know, 2.50, 2.50, 2.60.

[SPEAKER_03]: There was a solid range, 25 homerons, you'd be like five, five, the 10 steals, something like that.

[SPEAKER_03]: And so I think there's still a pretty good player in there.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I think I'm coming in the middle on him.

[SPEAKER_03]: So I have him here around 70.

[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, he's also, again, a good defender.

[SPEAKER_00]: So you know, players like that, they're going to have a long rope and I'm all about that.

[SPEAKER_00]: You know, players with short leashes and short ropes, they go away very quickly if they crash and burn.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, absolutely.

[SPEAKER_03]: And he just turned 20 and met October.

[SPEAKER_03]: He turned 20 like a two and a half weeks ago, October 16.

[SPEAKER_03]: So so very young.

[SPEAKER_03]: I'm sure I'll get plenty of live looks at him in 2026.

[SPEAKER_03]: So he'll be in double a new Hampshire for probably a good chunk of the season.

[SPEAKER_03]: So I'm excited to get some live looks at Irish and Amala.

[SPEAKER_03]: Alright, let's go past the first 10 rounds here.

[SPEAKER_03]: We won't go like every round here, but we'll talk with some values here, whether it be Jesse's picks or if there's any values that he liked, the other people may have that really stood out to him, but I will list off the rest of Jesse's draft picks.

[SPEAKER_03]: So far, rounds 11 through 15, he went Alex Freeland, and the Dodgers, Tommy Troy, and the Diamondbacks, Colby Thomas, from the athletics.

[SPEAKER_03]: Connor, I should be a Christian Scott from the New York Metz, a role in Brito from the Colorado Rockies.

[SPEAKER_03]: Those were picks 11 to 15, round 16 through 20.

[SPEAKER_03]: We got Yero Padilla.

[SPEAKER_03]: Robert Gasser, Daniel Pierce, who's just drafted by the Tampa Bay raise, Ethan Salas, you know, the infamous Ethan Salas, fellow Jesse in Brown, 19 at pick 280, Brown, 20 was Henry Bolts, 21 through 25.

[SPEAKER_03]: We got Mick Abel, Klai, Rosario from the Twins, Zac Vene, Gunnar Hoagland, [SPEAKER_03]: and Nathan Church was around 25, 26 through 31, we're so about 2 rounds left, 33 rounds total, we're in around 31.

[SPEAKER_03]: So the last six picks for Jesse will Watson from the Metz, Nick York from the Pirates, Riley Quick from the Twins, Jason Young from the Tigers, Blade Tidwell from the Giants, and last pick here.

[SPEAKER_03]: for Jesse Sterland Thompson from the Colorado Rockies.

[SPEAKER_03]: So Jesse, out of the remainder of your picks there, whether it be your picks or if there's any, any other picks that other people made that you were like, wow, that was a really good value.

[SPEAKER_03]: Or some of the values that sit up to you after Round 10.

[SPEAKER_00]: I think that a lot of my pitching people on, I think that pitchers that have debuted and have had mixed results, [SPEAKER_00]: Even hitters for that matter are often overlooked or completely overlooked by a lot of people.

[SPEAKER_00]: So I had a lot of those picks, I like scooping those types of players, you know, Christian Scott coming all the time at John Surgery, Robert Gasser who looked very good in his brief time with the brewer's this year, and I think he may have a rotation spot next year.

[SPEAKER_00]: Mick Abel, who had took a big step forward this year of stuff looks fantastic, should have plenty of opportunities with the twins on Gunnar Hoglin, another player who really took a step forward this year, looked like the player that we all thought he'd be, and then wasn't great in his debut and in suffering and injury, but I do really have a lot of hopes for him still.

[SPEAKER_00]: I do think the stuff is a lot better than a lot of people give it credit for.

[SPEAKER_00]: So those are the types of players I've played today.

[SPEAKER_00]: Well, we'll really late with the Giants on the player who has great stuff.

[SPEAKER_00]: Just can't command it.

[SPEAKER_00]: And if he finds command with the Giants, I think he could be a really sticky player with potential for opportunity.

[SPEAKER_00]: So all these players are going to see good amount of time this year.

[SPEAKER_00]: This coming year in the major leagues and give you some of the value.

[SPEAKER_00]: And that's kind of what you're looking for in deep leagues.

[SPEAKER_00]: You want to get players that can get that contribute.

[SPEAKER_00]: Now, this was like a shallow format.

[SPEAKER_00]: You're trying to go for home runs.

[SPEAKER_00]: you want those young players that are potentially going to become superstars, you know, the Edward Florentino's before there, you know, go crazy in the complex this year.

[SPEAKER_00]: You want to play it, you want to try and target those types of players, but in these leagues, I kind of approach them when you're drafting this deep, I kind of approach it like a deep format, so in those deep formats, I want to get players that could potentially contribute to my [SPEAKER_00]: played in 30 teamers.

[SPEAKER_00]: This is kind of how I would approach it.

[SPEAKER_00]: That's kind of what I was going for.

[SPEAKER_00]: My favorite value, I think of this entire journey, I've been more so admire, was for 76 to Jeff Ponds.

[SPEAKER_00]: He is another player that I think I actually, one of the rare ones I were looked because I updated my rankings right before his injury and I presumed he was going to lose eligibility.

[SPEAKER_00]: And so I didn't rank him way back in at the end of July then he was injured so I had to re-rank him this coming season are coming coming rankings This is the dangerous part about removing players prematurely for re-ranking said you curse them But because that I actually overlooked him I never overlooked his types of players so him falling to 76 is my big regret not taking him before that because I would have [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I think he was at like 129 at bad.

[SPEAKER_03]: So he's like right under the threshold.

[SPEAKER_00]: So 127.

[SPEAKER_00]: 127.

[SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, he's yeah, literally one more game.

[SPEAKER_03]: He would have run over that.

[SPEAKER_03]: Exactly.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, so some of my favorite values that of Jesse's here.

[SPEAKER_03]: Christian Scott, he's another guy that depending on what you use for eligibility might have graduated, but [SPEAKER_03]: You know, he, I sort of like Chris has got a good bit.

[SPEAKER_03]: Obviously, you know, coming back from major injury here, major surgery.

[SPEAKER_03]: So we'll see, but I think he's worth a shot as a by-low in Diancey Legs.

[SPEAKER_03]: Now, I love to back to backpicks here.

[SPEAKER_03]: Kalae Rosario and Zac Vene, picks 321 and 340.

[SPEAKER_03]: Rosario is like your typical twins prospect.

[SPEAKER_03]: Like tons of power, they love their power bats there.

[SPEAKER_03]: So.

[SPEAKER_03]: you know, I think you'll get a shot at some point and Zach Vene.

[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, we've seen some of the skills from Vene here and there if you ever put together in course field.

[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, hey, we've seen some of these late breakouts, especially, you know, you had one this past year at a Mickey Moniac kind of had a really nice year.

[SPEAKER_03]: So I have not given up hope on Zach Vene.

[SPEAKER_03]: I think at this point in the draft thing, that's a pretty darn good value.

[SPEAKER_03]: There as well as yeah, those were the three really stood out to me from Jesse and I still like make able to I can't quit make able Even if the commander control was wildly inconsistent, but I've seen make able you know live a few times and just that stuff is just so good So hard for me to fully quit make able even even though he's his value as taking a pretty big hit over the last few years, but [SPEAKER_03]: Jesse, really appreciate you coming on always good to catch up with the obviously we do used to co-host the plow, I guess you're together way back in the day so it's always good to chat baseball chat process with you and I really appreciate you participating in this mock draft again.

[SPEAKER_00]: Of course, as always a pleasure and thanks for having me on.

[SPEAKER_03]: Austin, yeah, thanks Jesse, you talked to you soon.

[SPEAKER_00]: Take care.

[SPEAKER_03]: now joining me for the second half of this mock draft recap episode.

[SPEAKER_03]: He is an analyst and potcaster for scout the stat line at Owen underscore FBB on Twitter.

[SPEAKER_03]: Mr.

Owen heard.

[SPEAKER_03]: Owen, how's it going?

[SPEAKER_02]: I'm doing great.

[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you for having me.

[SPEAKER_02]: You know, the baseball wrap it up, getting into the all season now.

[SPEAKER_02]: It's fun, fun part of year.

[SPEAKER_03]: I know.

[SPEAKER_03]: I always say that I always have, I mean, obviously, I love having live baseball going on, whether it be, you know, minor leagues or major leagues, but I almost enjoy the offseason just as much, you know, to see the really dig in to, you know, stats that are, you know, this stagnant now, not changing every day and it can always start like dissecting, you know, my rankings by team, by position, stuff like that.

[SPEAKER_03]: So, I love, I love, I love, I think, I love offseason content creation.

[SPEAKER_03]: more than I absolutely in season content creation.

[SPEAKER_03]: And I don't get me wrong.

[SPEAKER_03]: I do love my in season content creation too, but I think I like a little bit more go off season just because all the rankings and all the fun little like articles you can do like top 25 and 2030.

[SPEAKER_03]: This is the fun one that you can't really do during the season.

[SPEAKER_03]: So, [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's also you don't kind of get that like, you know, burn out from like kind of posting every day.

[SPEAKER_02]: You can kind of put your time more towards kind of doing some of the more in-depth stuff like those positional ranks.

[SPEAKER_02]: Those kind of, we'll have kind of early ADPs out at Imagine in the next few weeks or so, getting into those kind of early sleepers and busts.

[SPEAKER_02]: But I just want to say about that World Series, you know, regardless of my dislike for the Dodgers aside.

[SPEAKER_02]: That was, in my opinion, the best World Series I've seen in my lifetime, just absolutely incredible baseball, you know, on some heroes.

[SPEAKER_02]: starters, you know, pitching till you think their arms might fall off, like, who had will climb going for innings of relief and go well-ha, and unlikely hear out's absolutely incredible baseball.

[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, for sure.

[SPEAKER_03]: I think for me, and I'm on a little bit older than you, I think the four, I'm probably missing one, the four that stand out for me.

[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, obviously, for me, 2004, with the Red Sox will always be my number one.

[SPEAKER_03]: And obviously, you know, obviously, the other three row series as well, but the other three are not red socks ones 2001 diamond backs over the Yankees with that Luis Gonzalez one nine more.

[SPEAKER_03]: I'll remember that.

[SPEAKER_03]: I was 11 then and then 2016 the Cubs one and then this year.

[SPEAKER_03]: I think these are like the four that really like my Mount Rushmore of ones that have happened in my lifetime.

[SPEAKER_03]: And I get I'm probably missing one.

[SPEAKER_03]: I'll probably remember like in two hours.

[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah, you know, whatever.

[SPEAKER_03]: year, but yeah, phenomenal world series.

[SPEAKER_03]: And even though obviously, how you said, nobody really outside of Orange County wanted to do it just to win.

[SPEAKER_03]: But I'll always love mooky bets.

[SPEAKER_03]: He's one of my favorite players ever, and that's never good change.

[SPEAKER_03]: I've always loved a pretty free man.

[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I think Magic Johnson, I don't know if he caught it in the post game last night, was like, how do you say it?

[SPEAKER_03]: He's the most, [SPEAKER_03]: Gracious superstar we have in the game.

[SPEAKER_03]: I forget it might be not be gracious, but like or none of them the most humble as you the most humble Superstar we have in the game.

[SPEAKER_03]: I'm like that's 100%.

[SPEAKER_03]: So I'll always root for Ferti Freeman.

[SPEAKER_03]: He's just a great person obviously call fan player, but yeah, that was a fun series, you know, David vs.

Goliath, you know, Vladdy, going you know, bonkers, Yamamoto having just [SPEAKER_03]: phenomenal postseason and broad series.

[SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, everything you really wanted that broad series was there.

[SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, 100%.

[SPEAKER_03]: That was fun.

[SPEAKER_03]: And now we have to wait.

[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.

[SPEAKER_03]: I think it's a 99 days to fit you to catch a report.

[SPEAKER_03]: So I'm just like that right on 100 days, but we have the mock draft to get us through AFL and the hot, hopefully the hot stove is hot this year.

[SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, let's keep going with this mock draft analysis here.

[SPEAKER_03]: Obviously we had Jesse on and the first half of the show he had to pick in the later third of the round and Owen was on the other end of the draft board here picking out of the third spot, which is right before me.

[SPEAKER_03]: I had the fourth pick.

[SPEAKER_03]: So let's go over some pick by pick analysis here.

[SPEAKER_03]: I know we'll get into some strategy later in the show to close out.

[SPEAKER_03]: So first five rounds for Owen, Hazard's Modet, and the three pick, and then at pick 28 Bryce Rainer.

[SPEAKER_03]: Pick 33, Seth Hernandez, pick 58, which is a fourth round, Jordan Lawler, and then pick 63 Jackson Wiggins, the pitcher's really travel cubs.

[SPEAKER_03]: As the first five rounds mod A, Rainer, Hernandez, Lawler, [SPEAKER_03]: and Wiggins.

[SPEAKER_03]: And we'll start right there with Maday in the first round.

[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, as I mentioned earlier, I in the show, I kind of was hoping that, you know, one of, I mean, I knew but gone a little different work and it followed to me at four, but I was hoping that maybe when it was going in a different direction, uh, with then Hazard's Maday and then he could follow to me at pick four, but no dice there, um, but Maday obviously phenomenal rise with last year and then this year, [SPEAKER_03]: Overall, 285, 379, 413, slash lime, 40 extra base hits, 28 doubles, 6 triples, 6 home runs, stole 47 bags in 60 attempts, all while going to double a as 18 year old.

[SPEAKER_03]: Got a cup of coffee there, most of the season in L.A.

83 games, 27 games in high a5 in double a, [SPEAKER_03]: So even though the stats might not be gotty, I mean, obviously everyone that follows prospects knows that Hazard's mod A looks like the real deal.

[SPEAKER_03]: So was he like the no-brainer for you there?

[SPEAKER_03]: Got picked three after the two obvious ones in Griffin and McGonagall went off the board or were you really considering anybody else there?

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so kind of like you said it, you know, with Griffin McGonagl, going some order one, two, I was kind of fairly certain about that.

[SPEAKER_02]: So after that, it was my hey, I did give my hey was my top, I'd say gave a little bit of thought to Chase Burns, you grabbed right after that, but overall, not a whole ton of thought into that pick, and you know, kind of figured my hey was going to be the pick there from the get go.

[SPEAKER_03]: Now, what, uh, what type of player do you think he's going to become long Kremami is still very early in his development obviously even though he's been the double A, he's still 18 and when he even turned 19 until early part of May next year.

[SPEAKER_03]: So, so some development time left obviously, but [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, obviously, we've seen all the tools so far at various stages of his minor league career, you know, power, contact, speed athleticism, what type of player do you ultimately think he winds up at in the major leagues?

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, I think there's real potential to be a fancy super star there.

[SPEAKER_02]: I think, you know, you're looking at, you know, plus power and speed.

[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think the [SPEAKER_02]: like lagging compared to the power in the speed there probably will move off short stop in my opinion, so probably maybe more of a left side maybe a third base profile long term, but ultimately I think like a maybe top percent outcome is maybe you know you can throw in some pretty big superstars into that mix.

[SPEAKER_02]: I think maybe if you're looking at kind of a mooky bets with the red socks maybe you look at some of trade turners better years.

[SPEAKER_02]: I think those [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I really, I'm really excited to see what like the power gets to.

[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, obviously, he only had six hormones this year, but, you know, for someone his age, and he still got some projection laugh.

[SPEAKER_03]: I think he can add another 15, 20 pounds of bulk over the next year, too.

[SPEAKER_03]: He's already started to show some pretty, in price of, you know, young power for his age, being so young.

[SPEAKER_03]: And obviously, we'll see what that looks like in a few years.

[SPEAKER_03]: But if he can get to be like a 30-homer bat, which I think is a somewhat of a realistic outcome there.

[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I'm not sure he's going to be this level.

[SPEAKER_03]: I don't think he's going to be a 30-steel guy.

[SPEAKER_03]: But I think he'd be like a 15-20-steel guy down the road.

[SPEAKER_03]: And solid contact skills.

[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, in the mind of Liggs this year, he was like 77-78% contact, solid approach.

[SPEAKER_03]: In high A, he had 11% walk rate, 18% K rate.

[SPEAKER_03]: And I really just had an advanced bat all the way around so if you see that power really tick up next year year in year after that and long-term yeah I think it's a bit absolute fantasy star for sure and I'm really you know curious to see how that Milwaukee infield pans out long-term like where does mod A and up?

[SPEAKER_03]: You know, where does Luis Pena end up, you know, they obviously have other guys like Brock Wilkins, Luke Adams, Cooper Pratt, you know, etc.

[SPEAKER_03]: etc.

[SPEAKER_03]: So a lot of infield prospects in that Milwaukee system that all have some intrigue and at various levels.

[SPEAKER_03]: So I want to see how that winds up long-term.

[SPEAKER_03]: But, you know, obviously the the crown jewel, Hazel's mod A who I have number three overall, in my rankings, but Owen was mean and didn't let me take him at pick four.

[SPEAKER_03]: But it's all right, I forget all.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I got to say like picking right picking right behind you at a few points in the draft really wasn't all that funny there.

[SPEAKER_02]: A Michael Roya was going to be my pick when you grabbed him one take before me in the fourth.

[SPEAKER_02]: I was kind of probably would have taken Wiggins, but I did give Mike Soroto a lot of thought there.

[SPEAKER_02]: Getting like down the board a little bit like Noah Schultz was a guy that I was gonna grab like hoping that you could I thought about him in the 11th and I'm like, and maybe you'll slide one more round of me.

[SPEAKER_02]: No, I get sniped there So it goes and then Kevin DeFranck in the 18th as I'll pick that really like the earth's I was gonna grab him when I got Asia's bias of the cardinals, so you got me a few times so goes both ways [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, absolutely.

[SPEAKER_03]: You got me a few times to, you know, Travis Accora.

[SPEAKER_03]: I was, I mean, I love Travis Accora.

[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I think I went on record multiple places saying that he was going to be my new new number one pitching project once, you know, like the burns and misarrowsky, it's all of them.

[SPEAKER_03]: I graduated then, obviously, you know, injury happens and now he's out for a good chunk of time.

[SPEAKER_03]: So I've tried to drop him down my rankings a bit, but [SPEAKER_03]: Uh, I was kind of seeing how far I was getting turning it cute with it and see how far it's a core would fall.

[SPEAKER_03]: And you know, you took him in round six, pick 80, it overall.

[SPEAKER_03]: I was really, I don't write in my queue right near the top.

[SPEAKER_03]: I was debating him when it's wrong, back around to me, it picks in the round seven, which is where I took Jonathan long.

[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, that would have been a very, I love Jonathan long, too.

[SPEAKER_03]: So that would have been a pretty tough decision there.

[SPEAKER_03]: But you made it a little bit easier for me, but yeah, I'd love that.

[SPEAKER_03]: secure a pick by you and the sixth round, but before we get into that part of your draft here, I'll talk a little bit about Jordan Lawler.

[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, he's probably one of the more polarizing prospects at this point because the pros and cons have been so profound with him and [SPEAKER_03]: so visible because we've seen the good, the bad, all within one season, all then one month.

[SPEAKER_03]: So it's, I think there's like a huge range of rankings and valuations on Jordan Law, right now.

[SPEAKER_03]: I think there's some, you know, there's something gone right.

[SPEAKER_03]: There's still half him as like a top 25 guy or close to it.

[SPEAKER_03]: And others are like, I don't know, he's not even my top 100 anymore.

[SPEAKER_03]: So obviously, you're still, obviously, you're still, obviously, you're still, [SPEAKER_03]: You know, obviously, in Dianty Legs, would you be looking to buy low under and lower this off season?

[SPEAKER_03]: Are you still pretty in on him and think you can be a valuable fantasy asset moving forward?

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, I would take the shot at his price.

[SPEAKER_02]: I think kind of like he said, it's he's lost a lot of shine.

[SPEAKER_02]: You know, he's 23 years old.

[SPEAKER_02]: I think, you know, some people kind of tend to forget that a lot of these guys pop at kind of 24, 25, like development really isn't one year.

[SPEAKER_02]: We haven't really seen him at a full kind of extended stretch at the majors yet.

[SPEAKER_02]: Quite honestly he wasn't really a guy I was kind of thinking of taking but I feel like kind of once you get out of those top three rounds kind of be upside especially in bats kind of drop soft dramatically.

[SPEAKER_02]: You kind of get to those guys that can kind of be those top 25 caliber prospects in the game and then you know looking at round five still some pretty good prospects because of guys who are more [SPEAKER_02]: Um, you know, if everything clicks kind of back end top 100 guys, like kind of the braiden Montgomery Tyson Lewis Steel Hall, Ralphie Falazquez, Phelm and Celeste, and you kind of get some guys, you know, who have some pretty big holes from a fantasy perspective, you know, the, the Owen Casey's, the Moises by Asteros, the Justin Crawford.

[SPEAKER_02]: So I feel like at that point in the draft is kind of more of a bent on kind of talent and upside where [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he's lost a lot of shine, but I think like there isn't really anybody else at this point in the draft like that wise He has his caliber upside for fantasy and a guy who could be a solid hitter It could be some power and speed at short stop.

[SPEAKER_02]: I think that's a really valuable profile for fantasy So I think at that point the draft like I said not a pick out is really thinking of originally But you know once he kind of started to fall a bit when I kind of thought about a little bit more and [SPEAKER_02]: You know, I still think the book is still out there is he going to be that kind of, you know, superstar shortstop that people thought he'd be a year and a half ago, maybe not, but I think there's I still liked a value at that point in the draft.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I think that was real good value at that point.

[SPEAKER_03]: I think I have them right around that range of my rankings.

[SPEAKER_03]: I still have them in the top 50ish prospects.

[SPEAKER_03]: So.

[SPEAKER_03]: I'm so pretty in on law, or though I am more hesitant to go after him now, just because not so much a question of the talent, but more so like can this dude just like stay healthy or is he gonna be one of those guys where you know he's missing 50 plus games more often than not and then that's you know it's like like a chase to louder like same kind of question I obviously love chase to louder [SPEAKER_03]: Everyone that knows me knows that, but at this point, you have to really question them.

[SPEAKER_03]: Can this guy just withstand the rigors of a full baseball season?

[SPEAKER_03]: I think that's a good question right now.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I think for me, it's like I look at these guys as like, you know, a year, maybe a little little under, little over a year ago, you know, these were guys that were kind of headlining packages for, you know, a one soda, a kind of top 25-ish fantasy asset, the major league level and now, like, [SPEAKER_02]: You can maybe get these guys as a second or third prospector and kind of have some trade packages as you're looking for.

[SPEAKER_02]: So for me, it's like when I see kind of profile, like deliators and other really good examples, it's kind of these really talented players to maybe there's some health concerns, maybe the kind of pro debut doesn't go so well.

[SPEAKER_02]: Like Thomas Harrington is another pick of mine later than draft as kind of surprised how for he fell and just kind of how.

[SPEAKER_02]: much a pro debut can kind of sour some people's taste when it comes to prospects but I think there's a lot of value to be had in kind of getting in on those viral opportunities because right now I really don't think the cost for Jordan Waller.

[SPEAKER_02]: I think there's a big contrast in what it would be a year ago.

[SPEAKER_02]: First now maybe it's a solid MLB or maybe you can kind of get them as [SPEAKER_02]: a third prospect back and if you're kind of rebuilding selling a star.

[SPEAKER_02]: So I think there's a lot of, you know, at the price, I'm kind of good with taking it, definitely agree with you on the risks, the health, what's, is he going to take down that third base job in 2026?

[SPEAKER_02]: Some, some big unknowns, but I think just kind of looking at kind of the falloff and kind of his value.

[SPEAKER_02]: It's something that, you know, I would, I would take a shot arm at the right.

[SPEAKER_02]: I, at the right price.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, no, absolutely.

[SPEAKER_03]: And I think that value has fallen off a good bit in with a lot or two, a lot or went pick 75, right at the end of the fifth round to Jeff Ponce of baseball, America and this drafts.

[SPEAKER_03]: And that broke my heart as I was, again, trying to get cute because I know I'm higher than probably everyone on the louder.

[SPEAKER_03]: So I was like, let me, let me wait a little bit more or see if he can fall.

[SPEAKER_03]: I was on the round or two.

[SPEAKER_03]: I absolutely would have taken him in round six if he made it back around to me.

[SPEAKER_03]: Nope, Jeff had to take him there, but that was a phenomenal value.

[SPEAKER_03]: But he has like, Lawler, like Kobe Mayo, and though he's not prostrate eligible anymore, but those guys, it's almost like the A.L.

[SPEAKER_03]: and L version of just like the former elite top, I think both Mayo and Lawler were probably ranked as top five or 10 guys at some point by a good chunk of people that do ranking.

[SPEAKER_03]: So, and now they're kind of in flux, like, you know, we had a question.

[SPEAKER_03]: Are they going to be even able to be regulars anymore, but we still see the upside, but there's a lot of questions there.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I think it's a good time to buy low because if it doesn't work out, I don't think you're really giving up a lot to get him.

[SPEAKER_03]: So, okay, it doesn't work out.

[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, well.

[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, yeah, I don't think you're going to lose sleep over it.

[SPEAKER_02]: You know, I think you also have to look at like this is a mock to we're taking over 500 plus prospects if, you know, 50 of them turn into above average MLB regulars, you know, we probably consider that pretty good.

[SPEAKER_02]: So I think too.

[SPEAKER_02]: It's like you've got to look at like none of these guys are sure things, you know, there's going to be some kind of risk element with anybody you can pick whether that's in.

[SPEAKER_02]: The top three rounds, middle rounds or later in the rounds is like there's a chance this guy could be out of the minor leagues before he ever sees an MLB at that.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, no, absolutely agree there.

[SPEAKER_03]: All right, let's move on to rounds six through 10 here.

[SPEAKER_03]: And so you went, the aforementioned Travis Acora in round six at pick 88, round seven, pick 93, Kendri Curio, round eight, pick 118, Luke Dickerson of the Washington Nationals, round nine, pick 123, Grant Taylor, who's looking like a really good, [SPEAKER_03]: probably reliever, but maybe so goes back to starting.

[SPEAKER_03]: We'll see, but the sighting picture done the last four of the white socks, and around 10, trait Gibson, picture four of the Baltimore, orials.

[SPEAKER_03]: Well, it was really, I really wanted to hone in on those first two from this section, Sakura, and Cheerio, because, you know, [SPEAKER_03]: How do you, I mean, doesn't it be about secure in particular, but maybe it can be just these elite guys that you know, are gonna miss a big chunk of time, whether it be a full season, or they get injured and like man, they're out for the rest of the season.

[SPEAKER_03]: How do you approach these guys in Dianceles?

[SPEAKER_03]: Because I love secure.

[SPEAKER_03]: I've said that, you know, a few minutes ago, I think he still has the upside of an ace and I don't say that lightly.

[SPEAKER_03]: I don't use that term.

[SPEAKER_03]: very often but I think he has two ace up side but now obviously there's that big unknown adding into the mix here with you know the long layoff and the injury and surgery so do you like to target these guys just given the drop-off in price tag you know how do you approach secure and others like him that it would be out for so long.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so there's definitely a big kind of risk element when it comes to something like Tommy John, but for me personally, I've kind of, you know, perceive it as, you know, it's something that most pitching prospects are going to encounter at some point, whether that's kind of in their development to the majors or kind of in the majors.

[SPEAKER_02]: So I'll take that shot, especially I agree with you what you said to there's probably you probably can't even fill one hand of how many true pitching prospects truly have that number one upside.

[SPEAKER_02]: So, I really liked the value there.

[SPEAKER_02]: I'll take kind of the risk on the Tommy John, really love the stuff.

[SPEAKER_02]: It kind of fits my type of picture too, like a really good fastball.

[SPEAKER_02]: One potentially really good secondary, you know, not really atrocious control, but you know, control that you trust can develop a little bit.

[SPEAKER_02]: So this is a pick I really liked.

[SPEAKER_02]: I think for me it's like when it comes to something like Tommy John, if the value is right, if the [SPEAKER_02]: You know, that prospect is kind of falling down boards enough.

[SPEAKER_02]: I'll definitely be the one to stop that fall.

[SPEAKER_02]: I think people overreact when it comes to guys with Tom John, even those kind of a lead talent.

[SPEAKER_02]: We've kind of seen some exceptions this, like kind of Andrew Pager.

[SPEAKER_02]: But I've seen like Travis, like we're out at top 100s entirely.

[SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, I don't know if I can disrupt that bar, even with kind of the Tommy John on don't.

[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, 100%.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I think that's this way too far by drop.

[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, the put it in this perspective right now.

[SPEAKER_03]: I would say that out of all current pitching prospect eligible guys.

[SPEAKER_03]: I think I would say the ones that I would have ahead just if you're ranking on upside, but I'd have burns ahead.

[SPEAKER_03]: And that might be it.

[SPEAKER_03]: And that means I think that if 90%ile outcome true ceiling type thing happens for all these guys, I think this hop side is higher, force a core than no one McLean, than for triusavage, you know, for then Jonah Tong, Peyton Toli, Boba Chandler, all these guys.

[SPEAKER_03]: And that's no slight on any of those guys because they're all phenomenal pitching prospects.

[SPEAKER_03]: And obviously triusavages that the busiest pitching name on the planet right now outside of Yamamoto.

[SPEAKER_03]: I think Sikora is that that's more me saying like how good I think Sikora is than a knock in any of those guys because I have them all rank super high so I like all of them But Sikora's upside is just off the charts.

[SPEAKER_03]: So hopefully I'm hoping he can come back and just be a minor speed bump and he's still with that guy and this is not like [SPEAKER_03]: Daniela Spino 2.0.

[SPEAKER_03]: I just, that's obviously like the worst case scenario outcome.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but hey, at least the Spino's I'll pitch in the AFL.

[SPEAKER_03]: So I'll always be at that.

[SPEAKER_03]: But the other picture here, you went and took it around seven, one of the, you know, bigger breakout pitching prospects.

[SPEAKER_03]: So there's a lot of good, you know, low level pitching prospect break us this year.

[SPEAKER_03]: And Kendra Torio was one of them, you know, he had had was it 51 and a third innings between the DSL complex level and low A.

[SPEAKER_03]: You know, the ERA did jump up overall 3.51 because he had a 5-16 ERA in 6 starts and low-A.

[SPEAKER_03]: But I kind of don't look at that much at all because he was 17 years old in low-A.

[SPEAKER_03]: And still had a 24 to 4 strike out the walk ratio in 22 and 2-thirds innings there with a 106 whip.

[SPEAKER_03]: So a little bit of bad luck involved there.

[SPEAKER_03]: But he posted a 204 ERA in the DSL in 17 and 2-thirds innings.

[SPEAKER_03]: 245 ERA and 11 innings in the complex level.

[SPEAKER_03]: It's overall at 63 strikeouts to five walks in 51 and a third inning and a 0.96 whip for the season for Kendra Curio.

[SPEAKER_03]: That's you know phenomenal.

[SPEAKER_03]: You don't often see a 17 nearly now 18 [SPEAKER_03]: But put the entire season that age 17, a guy that young have that could have control of five walks if you want to third innings while still being a good breakout arm as well, not just like I've pitched a contact guy either.

[SPEAKER_03]: So what do you think of Kendra Cheerio?

[SPEAKER_03]: What do you think the upside is here?

[SPEAKER_03]: And then kind of like put on your future goggles here and like this time next year.

[SPEAKER_03]: Like give me a draft like where do you think he gets taken in this mock draft next year?

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so I think, you know, we talk a lot about just choreos kind of polish for his age and just the command, but I think it kind of overshadows just how good the stuff is to the fouls of 98, you know, plus I think there's a potential plus curve ball and change up there.

[SPEAKER_02]: And when you have a guy that's, you know, throwing the strikes at above kind of 80% clip with that kind of stuff at that age and getting this kind of low way, you know, you just don't see that.

[SPEAKER_02]: I really think.

[SPEAKER_02]: Like now he's in my top 50.

[SPEAKER_02]: I would be surprised if next year if he continues his trajectory if he makes it out of the second round So I do think there's a potential tier one pitching prospect upside with choreo And I think right we could be looking at a guy with really good command with two if not three plus pitches And I think that's just a really good really good profile for pitching prospect with a lot of physical development left to so I [SPEAKER_02]: maybe made middle and next season.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I know he's the era was definitely pointing up with Kendri Churri, I mean, I have him, I think I have him's top 100 guy at this point.

[SPEAKER_03]: So I don't know I should do on my rankings up right now about let me pull him up real quick.

[SPEAKER_03]: See if I know my own rankings here, but I think I have him back in top 100.

[SPEAKER_03]: Let's see, Kendry is, yep, I had him, 96 last update, and I'm probably going to move him up even further than that, but yeah, he's actually writing the similar range, just like Wiggins, who you picked a couple rounds before that, Hagen Smith's in that range, gauge jump, if you have the name Dasson Hill, I sort of know with Noah Schultz in that range, though he's a tough one to rank at this point, but [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, Cheerio definitely on the upward director him and David Shields to to really fun pitching prospects in that Kansas City system that people actually should absolutely be going out and trying to target now because obviously the price tax got up both these guys, but I think it's going to keep going up in 2026 so.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I love that pick for you there.

[SPEAKER_03]: All right, going past the next, the first 10 rounds, I should say, the rest of Owen's picks again out of three slots.

[SPEAKER_03]: He went in rounds 11 to 15.

[SPEAKER_03]: Cole Carrig, on Hell, and now, JD Dix, George Klasson, Sam Antanachi, 16-20, Michael Foret, who I love that pick for you there, Robert Colaz, Hazard's Bias, Juan Valer of the Red Sox, and Brillen and Tunis, that's Brown 20, 21-25, Mason Neville, FWP, you guys, I'm pretty high, I must have power there, Trevor Harrison, Lyndon Harmon, Nathan, I don't even know how, [SPEAKER_03]: Well, well, well, well, I think it's the name.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that that that W always screws me up in the middle.

[SPEAKER_03]: I'm late.

[SPEAKER_03]: I got to slow down and make sure I'd say it right.

[SPEAKER_03]: Then Thomas Harrington Anthony Hueso was picked 26 Jamie Quinn Irons in the 27th.

[SPEAKER_03]: Moses Chessay in the 28th Boston Bateman in the 29th Sean Keys in the 30th and then former Top 100 Ish guy from last year at this time.

[SPEAKER_03]: You'll assess with us went to Owen in round 31.

[SPEAKER_03]: Before we get into some like strategy and values here, I'm actually on the clock with Owen right after me, so we can make a couple of live picks here.

[SPEAKER_03]: I'm going to go, let's see here.

[SPEAKER_03]: I'm going to go to Kohler Roby, St.

Louis Cardinals, Pitchy Prosser, who's also injured again.

[SPEAKER_03]: But he was kind of getting his footing back.

[SPEAKER_03]: He had a big breakout a few years ago, fell off a little bit, starting to turn the corner, and then got hurt.

[SPEAKER_03]: So at this point we're in around 32 getting damn near pick 500, so I will go.

[SPEAKER_02]: uh...

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i'm gonna grab the grab leave i startling here i get a little kind of wary with the prep arms but i i this is kind of a profile that i like to target with this kind of teenage pitching prospects like six five righty lot of physical projection left you know low ninety's fastball that can gain a couple of ticks could control a couple secondaries that are both kind of flash above average potential so [SPEAKER_03]: Awesome.

[SPEAKER_03]: All right.

[SPEAKER_03]: So we now have what 17 picks remaining two more on the 30 second round and the final 33rd round and then we'll be done.

[SPEAKER_03]: So by the time everyone's listening to this tomorrow on Monday, probably will have this draft all done.

[SPEAKER_03]: So all right.

[SPEAKER_03]: Let's go into some some values here.

[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, [SPEAKER_03]: Who do you like, whether it be your own pick or if any other, you know, picks that just really sits it out to you, like, man, how did that guy fall to this spot in the draft?

[SPEAKER_03]: So what, what were your favorite values, either your own or others after around 10?

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so there are a couple from Chris Kleig that really stood out to me is a Hector Rodriguez in the ninth round's really good value there are just a approach and proved a lot like you know he is probably one of the most underrated most slept on like top 100 prospects in the game right now at a really slim position and who's on the cost of a major league debut to really like Hector Rodriguez I think is a really good combo kind of hit [SPEAKER_02]: power they are at a really shallow position.

[SPEAKER_02]: It doesn't pick I liked, loved Chase Harlan and Justin Gonzalez that Kleg went with the meal up at the 12th.

[SPEAKER_02]: I think like, you know, these guys truly have kind of 70 grade wall power.

[SPEAKER_02]: When you kind of look at some of those similar profiles that were taken earlier, a lot of those kind of 70 power guys that were going kind of a few rounds earlier.

[SPEAKER_02]: I thought that was really good value.

[SPEAKER_02]: Really liked a Theo Gillin to at the end of the six [SPEAKER_02]: just profile I really like and kind of a prep guy, like really good hit to a really good speed and I think there's some maybe kind of average power potential there says, those of those of pick that I really liked a lot.

[SPEAKER_02]: There were a lot kind of in the middle ones, and some of the middle rounds that I liked, like I think Jay saw by a lot from back in the 15th was really good value.

[SPEAKER_02]: There are definitely some kind of questions that hit tool kind of entered last year, but sky was a, you know, I think offensive upside-wise is probably one of the highest in the FYP class.

[SPEAKER_02]: So really liked that value there in the 15th.

[SPEAKER_02]: That's kind of the point where, you know, you can kind of take those risks and those kind of prospects you might get.

[SPEAKER_02]: And then James Anderson had a couple that I really liked, really like Dylan Jordan in the 23rd.

[SPEAKER_02]: I think he just kind of like a third pitch away from being in the top 100 prospect conversation.

[SPEAKER_02]: I was kind of surprised he had a couple really good catcher values I liked.

[SPEAKER_02]: I cannot understand them falling a bit, but really liked kind of Harry Ford in the 13th and Puperego in the 17th.

[SPEAKER_02]: not kind of guys that are flashy for fantasy, but guys who are going to hit in fourths case with give you some stolen bases and angles, you can give you a really good OPP.

[SPEAKER_02]: So I think when you can get two guys that are potentially plus and two kind of fantasy categories at that point, the drafts, really like that.

[SPEAKER_02]: And then [SPEAKER_02]: really like to gauge Dana for in the 14th that Matt Thompson picked is I think there are a lot of blue jays pitching prospects Dana for kind of got a little overshadowed in that's but that was a that was value that I really liked and then one of yours I really liked Henry Roe Austin the 19th he was someone that I was kind of considering for a few rounds in that range kind of [SPEAKER_02]: had some other guys fall that I didn't expect that I picked over.

[SPEAKER_02]: I don't love a size, but there results kind of speak for themselves.

[SPEAKER_02]: There's some good stuff there, the K to Baselball ratio is really good on the verge of making a big league debut.

[SPEAKER_02]: So those are some picks that really stood out to me is just really just values that have this guy fall so far.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I know that that real house pick.

[SPEAKER_03]: I was a three in a row.

[SPEAKER_03]: I went.

[SPEAKER_03]: We're on rods brown Kevin to Frank and then Kenny.

[SPEAKER_03]: Go hot 17 through 19.

[SPEAKER_03]: So a little bit of upside there for on the pitching side.

[SPEAKER_03]: I had my draft.

[SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, Harry for it, I agree with that pick by James Anderson in the 13th round.

[SPEAKER_03]: So we're talking that was pick 188 to the James Anderson.

[SPEAKER_03]: So [SPEAKER_03]: I've always been a Harry Ford guy, I just have no idea how he's going to fit into the picture of the hair in Seattle, but still think there's a lot of good in that profile, you know, it's a little bit different than the most catcher profiles, but I definitely thought we like that.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, for you, I already mentioned a few of them, I loved your, I think Judy Dix was a good value in the 13th Michael for it, and the 16th round rubber claws potential could be a good bargain there in the 17th.

[SPEAKER_03]: And for a minute, when you took Hazers by as in the 18th, I thought we had all that Josh by as fall to the 18th round of a 50 team mock graph and I was with a freak out.

[SPEAKER_03]: When you see Jay dot by as, you know, Saint Louis, so I was like, what did he stole available.

[SPEAKER_03]: Though that was going to take two with it with Hazers.

[SPEAKER_03]: But, and then missing level, I like that pick a lot as well.

[SPEAKER_03]: If the hit tools there for level, he could be a really good power bat in grammar and ballpark.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I know one more I liked is Evan from Cisco that Tim grabbed in the 25th like snifed me on that pic just kind of waited too long to grab him, but Yeah, I would over look kind of a slash line for him.

[SPEAKER_02]: The contact rates are still really good.

[SPEAKER_02]: The speed is good that the EVs aren't bottom of the scale for a kind of hit over power guy.

[SPEAKER_02]: So I think he's a guy that quickly could reclaim this spot on top 100 ranks in 226 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, for sure.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I had him in my queue.

[SPEAKER_03]: I took a white Sanford from the pirates that round, but he was definitely in my queue because at that point we were, oh, is that like pick 350 ish give or take so that point.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I mean, he had you didn't have a great year on the surface, but so some intrigue there.

[SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, that was a good value pick as well.

[SPEAKER_03]: All right, so let's close it out here with some strategy, you know, obviously you play in some Diancey leagues here, how do you approach both in your initial draft initial startup draft for a Diancey league and then maintaining a prospect roster, prospect pool year to year moving forward and in the leagues, how do you approach prospects in general in Diancey leagues?

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, if I'm going to shallow or leak, you know, I'm generally very aggressive with prospects.

[SPEAKER_02]: I, and one of my main 12 teams made a big blockbuster for Juan Soto, I believe, I think it was, it was a Connor Griffin Christian Campbell, Luis Payne and a couple other back end top 100 guides that I sent out.

[SPEAKER_02]: But the shallower, the league generally, I'm going to be very aggressive with prospects.

[SPEAKER_02]: even in kind of deeper leagues too when the right player becomes available in one of the 30 team leagues and then I made a deal for Bobby with Junior.

[SPEAKER_02]: I sent Luis Pania, Leo de Vries, Cal Steven, Josh Adams-Zusky, a couple other top 100 prospects back and then I think the first round pick.

[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm generally when the right talent becomes available when you can get three to five years of kind of superstar fantasy and I'll be your potential.

[SPEAKER_02]: I will take the gamble that the prospects will not turn into a player of that caliber and for me it really just comes down to kind of proven talent over prospects.

[SPEAKER_02]: I think strategy wise for me the early rounds were kind of very stick to my ranks.

[SPEAKER_02]: I would say like the first 10 rounds or so were kind of guys pretty close to where I would rank them or if they fell a little bit kind of grab them there.

[SPEAKER_02]: And then you get to the middle later rounds kind of more of your, take your shots, get your guys maybe kind of takes a big swings, it's some guys with big holes in their game.

[SPEAKER_02]: But the upside is there like a proper clause, there's a good example of that.

[SPEAKER_02]: I think one thing too that I didn't really anticipate was how much kind of pitching would fall a bit.

[SPEAKER_02]: And I kind of attacked it early as a result and kind of getting guys that I didn't think would last as long as they did.

[SPEAKER_02]: Didn't think trade gifts and would get to me in the tenth.

[SPEAKER_02]: Didn't think Travis like horror would be there in the sixth.

[SPEAKER_02]: Um, and then, you know, I, but I really liked kind of how some of my bad shaped out, um, yeah, there were a couple picks looking back at it probably could have gone elsewhere, like Luke Dickerson and the eighth, I didn't love, um, and then Sam Antonashi, like, I love the prospect that you super underrated, but I think at that point the draft, like, there were kind of other, you know, hitting speed profiles that went a little later than I liked the values on better.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, Accora definitely won a minute to the 6th of guys like, you know, Arroyo and Sarota weren't still there for me in the fourth and the fifth, I probably would have taken Secora and the fifth or sixth round.

[SPEAKER_03]: Now that I'm looking back and took your since in Garcia right before you took Secora, I'm kind of regretting that.

[SPEAKER_03]: It's a mock, so whatever.

[SPEAKER_03]: But, you know, yeah, definitely Secora.

[SPEAKER_03]: I think was one of the better values of the entire draft that picked 88 there.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, great stuff.

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