1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,240 I was going to say, this is probably the easiest episode we've ever done. 2 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:04,440 To sum up. 3 00:00:04,440 --> 00:00:05,760 Don't be a jerk. 4 00:00:05,760 --> 00:00:08,760 You know? 5 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:14,480 I said. 6 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:21,920 Stop! 7 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:24,800 Hi there, and welcome to this episode of the Guns Podcast, 8 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:30,360 just brought to you by guns magazine and sponsored now by Tango Down. 9 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:31,680 I'm your host, Brant Wheat. 10 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:34,800 Thanks for joining us here on one of the world's biggest gun talk programs. 11 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:38,200 As we talk about the interesting stuff that makes up the world of shooting. 12 00:00:38,480 --> 00:00:43,480 And of course, here's our newly minted official co-host, Roy Huntington. 13 00:00:43,480 --> 00:00:46,480 Hey, Roy, welcome to 2026. 14 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:50,840 I just feel like I feel important now because I'm a co-host. 15 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:54,480 Well, you are, you are, I appreciate it. 16 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:55,520 Yeah. 17 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:57,800 And now that you're co-host, you can join me in 18 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:00,520 welcoming our great new sponsor, Tango Down. 19 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:03,000 They've got lots of great stuff, and we're going to see a quick word, 20 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:05,400 and then we'll be right back to the conversation 21 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:07,960 about what we're going to talk about today. But here's a word from tango down. 22 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:19,440 Tango down has been a trusted 23 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:22,800 leader in firearms parts and accessories for more than two decades. 24 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:26,080 Whether you're upgrading your everyday carry or finishing out 25 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:29,120 your next rifle bill, Tango Down has you covered. 26 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:33,720 Their product line continues to grow, with new releases coming in 2026. 27 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:37,560 Visit tango down.com to explore the full lineup 28 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:41,000 and sign up for email updates so you don't miss what's next? 29 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:44,640 Tango down combat gear without peer. 30 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:48,600 Well, right. 31 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:52,920 We're we're pulling one of our patented left turns with this episode 32 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:55,880 because we had something planned, and we'll probably do it next week. 33 00:01:55,880 --> 00:02:00,920 But we got we got to complaining and bitching and moaning about something. 34 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:03,000 And I said, you know, stop right there. 35 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:05,080 We're going to hit record and we're going to do an episode. 36 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:09,720 So we're going to talk about internet forums, which quite frankly, my 37 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:14,400 there's there's whale doo doo and there's product liability lawyers. 38 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:16,840 And then there's internet forums right below that. 39 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:21,840 So we, we, we're folks are going to get an earful today. 40 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:26,400 And, I'll say one thing before we get started, not every person 41 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:30,760 that hangs out on forums is a knucklehead, but if you hang out on forums, 42 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:33,960 you have to admit there's a lot of them out there. So. 43 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:35,240 Right. 44 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:38,880 You were kind of the one that started us on this conversation with some real 45 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:42,840 great examples of of morons on the internet. 46 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:46,920 So, when somebody says forum gun forum to you, 47 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:51,040 besides rolling your eyes, what do you say? 48 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:53,840 Well, you know what? 49 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:56,840 They could be something very good. 50 00:02:56,840 --> 00:02:57,800 Yeah. You know. 51 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:00,560 And like you say, we're not disparaging all of it. 52 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:01,640 And everyone 53 00:03:01,640 --> 00:03:05,600 I know, people who they work very hard, they try very hard to police their forums. 54 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:08,800 You know, and frankly, I think it shows, 55 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:13,320 you know, I've found that the, the sort of dedicated collector 56 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:16,960 forums here are the cold collectors or the Smith and Wesson collectors 57 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:18,200 or people like that. 58 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:20,560 Their forums are usually pretty well-behaved. 59 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:23,400 You know, people tend to be polite. 60 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:25,920 You know, if somebody says, hey, I have this new gun, 61 00:03:25,920 --> 00:03:29,560 I can't, you know, I don't know what it is rather than the next post being 62 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:32,920 or you're a moron because you and you should never own any guns. 63 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:36,680 Usually the next post is something like welcome to the forum, 64 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:38,200 you know what you have 65 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:41,840 is a is a very classic Smith and Wesson Model ten from pre-war. 66 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:46,400 You know and then there's usually this engage conversation afterwards. 67 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:48,480 Well gosh that's fun. 68 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:50,520 You know there's nothing wrong with that. 69 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:52,200 But I 70 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:55,200 foolishly went to a forum the other day, 71 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:57,360 about a reader brought it up and he said, hey, 72 00:03:57,360 --> 00:03:58,800 I thought you'd be interested in this. 73 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:03,040 And against my better judgment, and with the quaking mouse finger, 74 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:06,200 you know, I clicked on the link and, 75 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:08,560 and it was it was very typical of it. 76 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:12,040 So, somebody came on and said, hey, I have this rifle and, 77 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:14,000 you know, I have some questions about it. 78 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:18,720 And then and so the next poster was was very nice. 79 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:20,640 Hey, welcome to the forum. 80 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:22,320 You have a really cool gun. 81 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:25,200 It's a this and this and this and this and this and this. 82 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:28,200 And the very next post was 83 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:31,480 if you don't know what you have and how to work it, 84 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:33,720 then you have no right to own a gun. 85 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:35,240 But, you know. 86 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:37,000 I mean, it's like really 87 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:40,200 you have this guy who is it was pretty obviously a do gun owner. 88 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:43,200 This was your chance to, you know, shine. 89 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:43,760 Yeah. 90 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:48,000 And then it basically went, you know, to poop after that, you know, 91 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:52,440 well, any man who doesn't know what that is, you know, must be a moron. 92 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:57,720 And, you know, and so I thought, right, I have no words for this. 93 00:04:57,720 --> 00:05:00,720 Why are people why is the default mode 94 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:03,920 to be an aggressive jerk? 95 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:05,120 Yep. Yep. 96 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:08,200 And you made a good point that I really wanted to make out of the gate. 97 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:13,360 And I failed to is this is kind of directed at, well, really two people. 98 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:18,240 First and foremost, though, it's at the newer shooters who are going 99 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:23,520 to the internet to try to find things, and they immediately get flamed alive. 100 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:28,280 And as you pointed out, Roy, I'm sure a lot of them go, are you kidding me? 101 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:29,920 Really I don't yeah. 102 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:32,240 And then they then. They sell their gun. 103 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:33,160 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 104 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:35,640 They say, well I, I want to hang around with these guys. Yes. 105 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:36,840 Yeah. Exactly. 106 00:05:36,840 --> 00:05:38,680 And I will tell you and I'm not going to say what it is 107 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:40,600 because I don't want to get the angry emails. 108 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:44,800 But I was actually having a conversation the other day with somebody and he asked, 109 00:05:44,840 --> 00:05:47,640 are you this? Have you done this? 110 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:51,760 And it's not shooting related, but it is something that we all kind of know, 111 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:52,920 something about. 112 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:56,280 And I said no, because every time I've been on a forum, 113 00:05:56,480 --> 00:06:01,040 I've never gone to get my license, shall we say, because every forum 114 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:06,000 I've ever been on, I said, those guys are the most crotchety, hateful. 115 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:10,240 Snarky, sarcastic, 116 00:06:10,280 --> 00:06:12,960 rude bunch of people I've ever been around. 117 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:16,240 And I said, if that is how that particular 118 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:19,840 hobby is run, I don't want to be part of it. 119 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:22,680 And he's like, oh, wow. Well, yeah, you're kind of right. 120 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:25,200 And I said, well, you know that right there. 121 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:28,200 There's there's another hobby that I might get involved with 122 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:34,080 and I'm completely turned off because it in those forums, it tends to start with, 123 00:06:34,280 --> 00:06:39,000 well, you know, I know all this and you're just an idiot for asking that question. 124 00:06:39,280 --> 00:06:42,600 And it just kills me when I see that in In the Gun world. 125 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:46,320 And it's it, it's it's elitist snob syndrome. 126 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:47,400 Yeah. 127 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:50,320 And what I have found is that the people 128 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:55,160 who usually know the most and who have the most experience 129 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:58,400 are usually the most modest 130 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:01,440 and helpful kind people. 131 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:04,440 Yeah, it's it's the ones who don't 132 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:09,440 and are usually they turn into these aggressive asses. 133 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:10,480 Yeah. 134 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:13,880 And I mean, I think if you it's that whole thing about 135 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:17,200 beware the old guy with green, his mustache, his shooting revolver. 136 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:18,840 You know what? 137 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:22,920 I absolutely promise you that if you walk up to that guy 138 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:26,400 on the shooting range and say, hey, would you tell me about your revolver? 139 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:28,560 He would say, sure. 140 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:30,200 Would you like to shoot it? Here. Let me. 141 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:30,840 Right. 142 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:34,160 He's not going to say, well, you're an idiot if you don't know what this is. 143 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:36,880 Yeah, yeah, you know, it. 144 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:39,760 It astounds me because, well, 145 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:42,640 first of all, why would you be that way to strangers? 146 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:43,080 It's. 147 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:45,600 Imagine if you were on the street. It's like. 148 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:48,000 Hi. Pleasure to meet you, Bill. 149 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:49,840 Well, you're stupid, you're an idiot. 150 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:52,840 And I can't believe you're even here. And it's like, what's. 151 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:54,560 It's the. It's the bad guy. 152 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:56,080 No, it's the anonymity. 153 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:56,640 You know? 154 00:07:56,640 --> 00:07:56,880 Yeah. 155 00:07:56,880 --> 00:08:00,280 I mean, it's like I've used the analogy that if somebody comes to your front door, 156 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:03,280 you open the door, you punch them in the mouth, then you close the door. 157 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:04,560 Yeah, right. 158 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:06,600 That's what I mean by the internet. 159 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:09,960 On the rare times that I've ever posted on a. 160 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:11,040 Forum. 161 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:14,040 I, I log in with my real name. 162 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:17,560 I, I say exactly what it is, my experience. 163 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:19,440 Is it all verifiable? 164 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:22,200 You just have to Google my name, right? Yeah. 165 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:24,280 I'm not hiding behind anything. 166 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:25,560 This is my opinion. 167 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:27,080 This is why it's my opinion. 168 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:31,000 And if you want to talk to me about it, this is how you find me, you know? 169 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:35,200 But yet then somebody you know, big John 44, 170 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:38,640 you know, we'll say, well, you know, you're just an idiot. 171 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:42,560 And all you gun writers are scabs and Perino and it's like, well, 172 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:46,000 so who are you? And what did you know? 173 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:46,360 Well, didn't. 174 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:47,600 You just tell somebody that? 175 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:49,720 Well, you know, okay, you're right. 176 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:54,960 Based on my 60 years of shooting and having shot everything everywhere. 177 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:56,000 Well, you know, 178 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:59,360 I, I'm sure your experience is far greater than that, so I'll listen to you. 179 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:01,800 I know, but you can't get to him. 180 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:03,680 It really doesn't matter. 181 00:09:03,680 --> 00:09:05,160 I mean, if if 182 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:09,440 I was on a forum not too long ago, I had a car question about my Ranchero. 183 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:13,640 And I got and and they were actually really nice. 184 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:17,480 It was a nice forum branch collectors or something like that. 185 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:20,480 And, and I had a question about, 186 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:23,200 the brake system that was a little bit complicated for me. 187 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:25,880 And so this guy came on and I did a couple things. 188 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:31,080 Number one, you look at their post, you know, and he's got like 8000 posts, right? 189 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:36,360 So I found they're either idiots and all they do is post or they 190 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:39,240 actually really know what they're doing and they're there to help people. Right. 191 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:41,000 And this guy was one of those. 192 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:43,080 And he said, you know, dear Mr.. 193 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:46,840 He'll welcome to our forum as a retired Ford mechanic. 194 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:49,560 Oh wow. Oh, you know how. 195 00:09:49,560 --> 00:09:52,080 I worked on your car when it was new? 196 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:53,040 Yeah. 197 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:55,080 And this is what you need to go. 198 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:55,880 Here's a good link. 199 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:58,600 You should go to buy these parts, Ford. 200 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:01,320 And if you have any questions, private message me. 201 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:05,760 And it's like angels were singing in the background, you know, and then. 202 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:09,840 And it was like the next guy posted, he says, hey, Roy, welcome on the farm. 203 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:12,280 You should listen to Bill. He's helped all of us before. 204 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:13,840 He really knows what he's doing. 205 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:14,320 You know? 206 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:17,320 And I mean, that's what it should be like. 207 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:18,440 Exactly. 208 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:21,400 Well, and another thing that 209 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:25,040 we got fired up on and this this is a personal pet peeve. 210 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:29,280 It's like fingernails on a chalkboard is when the argument starts, then 211 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:31,200 a guy will say something to the effect of, 212 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:34,200 well, I don't own that gun, or I've never shot that gun, right? 213 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:35,840 But yet, why don't you just 214 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:39,000 give me your opinion on something you've never even handled? 215 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:42,080 Yeah, why? 216 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:42,600 I read on. 217 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:45,920 A forum somewhere that somebody said that that was a bad gun. 218 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:48,840 Because his brother in law said that he knew a guy who had one. 219 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:49,560 Yeah. 220 00:10:49,560 --> 00:10:50,440 You know that. Yeah. 221 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:52,320 That is not adding to the conversation. 222 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:55,320 And frankly, your opinion, you're pulling it out of your butt. 223 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:57,720 Well, you know, there's an old saying in it, 224 00:10:57,720 --> 00:11:01,000 I have to paraphrase it, but it's something about choose your friends 225 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:04,720 wisely, because the people who who build you up, 226 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:07,800 you know, are that supportive and that's good for you. 227 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:11,520 But then there are the ones who take you down, and that's negative. 228 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:16,840 And I think that too many of these forums are involved like that. 229 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:19,080 You know, somebody like you say, who's new to shooting, 230 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:21,640 they can on a forum, hey, I'm new to shooting. 231 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:24,120 You know, what holster should I buy? 232 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:28,200 And then if the first post is, well, if you don't even know what holster 233 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:30,600 you should buy, well then why do you own a gun? 234 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:33,600 Well, and you're right, it's like click off. 235 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:35,960 You know, and I don't know what the. 236 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:38,960 Satisfaction is for being negative like that. 237 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:42,640 I get a lot of satisfaction from helping somebody like that. 238 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:44,800 Yeah. You know, and I know you do, too. 239 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:47,680 That's part of the fun of being an editor of the magazine. 240 00:11:47,680 --> 00:11:48,520 And what that is, 241 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:51,600 that people have questions and we draw up on our experience, 242 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:54,160 and we try to steer them in the right directions. 243 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:57,160 And they they invariably appreciate it, though. 244 00:11:57,280 --> 00:11:57,960 Yeah. 245 00:11:57,960 --> 00:12:02,160 I will say a little personal kind of anecdote here. 246 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:05,800 Now that the print version of gun's magazine is gone 247 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:08,640 and I don't have that daily responsibility anymore, 248 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:11,440 you know, I'm still writing and I'm still writing for guns magazine.com. 249 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:13,520 We're doing the podcast and all that, but I 250 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:16,840 my day is not as nearly as full as it used to be. So. 251 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:21,360 So I'm trying to figure my next act, and I had some good advice 252 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:24,520 from somebody that said, the best thing you can do is mentor people. 253 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:29,600 I think it's it's it is a certainly generates a, 254 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:33,360 a positive effect usually on because there's a reason 255 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:37,280 why you're a teacher or a mentor or, you know, someone who volunteers 256 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:40,280 at the local food bank or something because you like to reach out like that. 257 00:12:40,560 --> 00:12:42,120 I've always found, though, 258 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:45,120 I know 259 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:48,320 most of the top gunsmiths in our industry, right. 260 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:51,600 And what I've seen countless times over the years 261 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:54,600 is that a new gunsmith will come under the stage, 262 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:58,080 and they've got an attitude, 263 00:12:58,080 --> 00:13:02,920 and they're flashy, you know, and they're opinionated 264 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:07,560 and they, they'll often get a fanboy group following them. 265 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:09,120 Right? Yeah. 266 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:11,880 But then they're the other guys that have been around for a long time. 267 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:14,360 And if you if you were to meet them and talk to them, 268 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:17,720 you wouldn't even really know what it was they were doing, you know? 269 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:18,840 Hey, what do you do? 270 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:21,040 You know, I'm a gunsmith. I build guns sometimes. Really? 271 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:21,560 What kind? 272 00:13:21,560 --> 00:13:24,800 Oh, you know, just interesting old Smith and Wesson revolvers, you know? 273 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:28,080 I mean, they would never say I build the best 274 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:31,080 revolvers ever built by humankind. 275 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:31,480 Yeah. 276 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:32,760 You know, 277 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:36,560 And those are the guys, though, who always do the best job and who always. 278 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:40,440 I mean, if I call Hamilton Bolt and say, Hamilton, I'm doing this gun thing 279 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:43,080 and I have a question, he doesn't say, 280 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:45,000 well, you know, if you had any sense at all, 281 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:46,720 you would even do what you're doing, right? 282 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:46,920 Yeah. 283 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:50,560 Hamilton says, boy, you know, I hear you and I struggle with that, too. 284 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:53,280 You know, here's what I do. Yeah. 285 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:56,280 And, you know, I think you hit on another point there 286 00:13:56,280 --> 00:14:01,120 that folks that take that attitude don't last very long. 287 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:06,240 If you want to have a long career as a gun writer, a gun Smith, whatever. 288 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:08,560 Any or anything. 289 00:14:08,560 --> 00:14:12,640 You don't come in and immediately start tearing folks down and acting, 290 00:14:13,560 --> 00:14:16,040 you know, the old fake it til you make 291 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:19,600 it is fine to a point until you start tearing others down. 292 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:23,160 Because generally what happens, invariably 293 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:26,240 what happens is 15 years later, 294 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:29,600 people going, hey, do you remember that Roy Huntington guy now? 295 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:32,880 Man, he was he was all over and would flash in the pan, 296 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:37,320 and I can make a whole list of gun riders that were that way. 297 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:39,840 And their YouTube personalities really? 298 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:43,920 One manager at the top the next minute, nobody knows who you are. 299 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:47,880 Gunsmiths, you know, even even brands. 300 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:49,080 Same kind of thing. 301 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:55,000 So, slow and steady wins the race and slow and steady and being a decent person, a 302 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:58,280 decent human being, you don't have to kiss everybody on the lips. 303 00:14:58,560 --> 00:14:59,120 But you at least 304 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:02,280 have to be a decent person until somebody gives you reason not to be. 305 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:05,640 Well and then just distance yourself from them. 306 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:10,120 You know, I'm I don't follow sports, and I know that's heretical, but I don't. 307 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:11,880 It just doesn't interest me at all. 308 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:16,080 And but what I have noticed when you're looking in the news or something, 309 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:18,000 is there. 310 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:21,960 There's always some new hire football player. 311 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:26,200 His first or second year, they're paying him $20 million a year. 312 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:27,800 And what does he do? 313 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:31,920 He beats his girlfriend, or he gets arrested for having narcotics. 314 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:36,920 Or he drives his new Ferrari 120 miles an hour and smashes it and kills somebody. 315 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:38,440 Right. 316 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:43,120 Then there's the guy who's been playing baseball for 22 years. 317 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:45,920 And he, 318 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:50,760 he's a spokesperson for a hospital that treats children's cancer. 319 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:51,560 Yeah, right. 320 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:54,560 And he doesn't take any money, you know, or, 321 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:58,120 you know, they mentor a little league teams in there. 322 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:00,600 You know, I mean, they're just, like, decent fellows. 323 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:01,160 Yeah. 324 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:03,920 And they have a long, successful career. 325 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:06,960 And their fans really appreciate what they do. 326 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:10,560 But these other flash in the pan guys, you know, it's like, yeah, 327 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:13,560 you think you're pretty hot but you're not going to be hot tomorrow. 328 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:13,840 Yeah. 329 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:16,320 You know I and I'm going to say something else. 330 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:20,160 It's really funny if and you will know exactly what I'm talking about 331 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:23,280 is that people die in our industry right there. 332 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:25,720 Everybody dies everywhere. 333 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:30,720 And to me, there's a real touchstone that happens afterwards when people die. 334 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:33,480 You're going. Yeah, when people die. 335 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:35,520 And of course, you know your friends hate you here. 336 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:37,800 Bill died or something like that. 337 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:38,720 Well. 338 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:41,320 It's always two ways, right? 339 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:45,000 You open up the email and it's like, hey, did you hear Bill died? 340 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:47,480 Good riddance, you jerk. 341 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:48,840 Right? Yeah. 342 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:49,560 Or else. 343 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:50,880 Hey, did you hear Bill died? 344 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:53,640 Gosh, he was always so darn nice. 345 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:55,560 And he mentored me through this. 346 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:58,720 And he gave me an opportunity when I was first opening my business. 347 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:01,320 And if it wasn't for him, I wouldn't be here. 348 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:04,920 You know, the industry is less for him being gone. 349 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:05,800 Yeah. And so, 350 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:09,920 I mean, I know which one I want to be, you know, 351 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:14,440 but I think there's a lot of people who that there's just a, I don't know 352 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:18,920 what like a separation in their brain and they just don't see that difference. 353 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:23,840 You know, they're they're narcissistic ego. 354 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:25,560 I don't know. 355 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:26,760 They think, you know, when you 356 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:31,160 when you demean someone else, it's supposed to make you elevate you. 357 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:31,720 Right? 358 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:33,920 But unfortunately, it's exactly the opposite. 359 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:34,960 So yeah. 360 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:37,680 And I'm just going to make the point that, 361 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:40,440 I think we talked about it here, a long time ago. 362 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:41,280 I had a conversation. 363 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:42,800 Well, yeah, this guy said this and this. 364 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:45,120 I said, did he say anything positive? 365 00:17:45,120 --> 00:17:46,320 Well not really. 366 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:49,560 Well, there you go. It's easy to tear down. 367 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:53,640 It's it's harder to point out the good and the bad. 368 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:55,200 Well, you know, I 369 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:58,200 noticed with the forums they 370 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:01,280 if you see an immediate personal attack, 371 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:05,000 you know, where you're an idiot and you shouldn't even own that gun. 372 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:08,160 Well, that's because they probably don't have a lot to say. 373 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:08,560 Yeah. 374 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:12,480 You know, I mean, they've got opinions and they have what they think 375 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:15,480 people are going to like them to say and all that, but they don't have 376 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:19,440 really well-founded personal opinions, you know, everyone. 377 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:22,040 So on our YouTube videos, which is a lot like forums 378 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:26,040 because there's comments, you know, you engage and they post things. 379 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:29,040 You know, a lot of times you'll say, I had one the other day, a guy said, 380 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:32,280 well, yeah, as a matter of fact, it was about the podcast. 381 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:35,400 And they said, well, I just wasted ten minutes of my time here. 382 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:37,920 You guys obviously don't know what you're talking about. 383 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:39,520 You're just a couple of thuds, 384 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:43,200 and if you knew what you were talking about, you would have said that 385 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:46,880 this about this guy and this and this and this by right. 386 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:49,680 I said, okay, so I'm a little bit curious, right? 387 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:53,640 So I try to answer them, I'm sorry to see you go. 388 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:55,400 You know, I mean, we were talking 389 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:59,200 based on our 80 years of experience in doing what we do. 390 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:02,520 And so we may not know much about what we're talking about. 391 00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:07,200 But I saw I clicked on this guy's, YouTube handle. 392 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:08,080 Right? Yeah. 393 00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:11,080 Of course, they never have their real name, you know, and 394 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:15,360 and he had like two videos and it was about 395 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:18,360 weird things you do with eggs. 396 00:19:18,360 --> 00:19:22,480 And it was like how to make a black egg when you're cooking or something 397 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:24,120 like that. Right. And you know. Yeah. 398 00:19:24,120 --> 00:19:25,600 And so I had. 399 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:28,800 I did I couldn't help but I posted, I said, I said, you know, 400 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:32,320 I noticed on your, your YouTube channel you have egg videos. 401 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:35,160 But if you're a topic expert 402 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:38,440 on what we were talking about on the show, maybe you should make some videos 403 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:42,120 and show us what it is we were doing wrong. 404 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:46,960 Yeah, I'm sure other people would like to see your opinion and see your expertise. 405 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:49,120 So, yeah, you know, just saying. 406 00:19:49,120 --> 00:19:52,120 And then I sign my name. Right? Yeah. 407 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:57,840 It it's interesting because I almost never hear back from those people. 408 00:19:58,080 --> 00:19:59,400 Yeah. 409 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:01,760 And sometimes when I hear back, 410 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:04,440 they surprise me because they say, Dear Mr. 411 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:07,440 Harrington, sorry, I was kind of a jerk on that. 412 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:11,280 I didn't really I didn't realize that you would actually read my comment, 413 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:13,720 and that you would take the time to respond. 414 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:15,120 I got caught. 415 00:20:15,120 --> 00:20:18,120 Yeah, I got caught, you know. 416 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:20,440 And especially when you go there, they're, you know, 417 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:23,400 they tell you all about all your mistakes and tactics and all that. 418 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:26,920 And you go to their website and they've got like, you know, Japanese 419 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:30,000 kitty cat videos on their website. 420 00:20:30,360 --> 00:20:31,680 You know. 421 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:32,760 Yeah, yeah. 422 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:33,120 It's like. 423 00:20:33,120 --> 00:20:36,120 Really, you know, I was talking to someone who is is 424 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:39,560 very well known in the industry who has since retired. 425 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:42,640 He was a custom gunsmith, 426 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:46,080 and he started one of the very first gun, a knife forums. 427 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:49,680 I, I don't know, 25 years ago maybe. Yeah. 428 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:54,920 You know, a long time ago and, and it was very popular then. 429 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:57,920 It was kind of high end, you know, so it was 430 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:02,040 these are people who really like custom 19 levels and custom guns in general, 431 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:06,000 or a lot of custom knife people, you know, and 432 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:10,120 and I remember when it started, it was it was really nice, you know, it was like 433 00:21:10,120 --> 00:21:13,120 these people were really sharing their experiences, 434 00:21:13,120 --> 00:21:16,280 sharing what they liked about these new designs, 435 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:19,520 you know, sharing pictures of their custom guns they had had made. 436 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:21,840 And it was like, gosh, this was a lot of fun. 437 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:23,400 But I know 438 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:26,400 4 or 5 years later the forum was down. 439 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:28,400 And so I contacted him. 440 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:31,280 I said, hey, you know, it seemed like that was a pretty nice forum. 441 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:32,280 What was what was that? 442 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:36,400 And he was they said, you know, he said it was initially nice. 443 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:41,480 He said, but it got to the point that all I did was have to police it 444 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:47,560 to make sure the idiots didn't post, you know, as hopelessness. 445 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:48,640 Comments. 446 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:51,480 Yeah, but he said they single handedly destroyed 447 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:54,560 what you know, we had going here, which was a really nice, positive 448 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:56,600 kind of a forum. Yeah. 449 00:21:56,600 --> 00:22:00,360 And I thought, you know what, that I and I have no idea why this is. 450 00:22:00,360 --> 00:22:04,080 I have no idea why someone goes, here's this new poster. 451 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:06,160 Hey, I just bought a gun. 452 00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:09,200 And I'm curious to know about concealed carry ammunition. 453 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:13,920 My friend told me I should use this, and another friend told me I should use that. 454 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:16,200 Would anyone here please give me some advice? 455 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:16,640 Okay. No. 456 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:19,600 Well, that's a magical moment now, right? 457 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:20,400 Yeah. This. 458 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:24,080 You have every opportunity to respond this person in a way that's 459 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:29,520 helpful and supportive and, you know, positive and educational and I, 460 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:32,640 I just do not know why 461 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:36,320 people insist on just simply firing a broadside. 462 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:40,600 You know, I, I the only thing I can think of is it's the old. 463 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:42,400 They don't have a lot of self. 464 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:45,280 What self-confidence, self. 465 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:47,760 Self-Esteem. Esteem. Yeah. 466 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:51,920 So they think that by by demeaning these other people that it makes them 467 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:56,560 bigger, better, stronger, you know, when in actuality it's exactly the opposite. 468 00:22:57,120 --> 00:23:00,720 I was going to say I was going to address that very point, that here's the secret. 469 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:06,240 I don't care if you're 20 or you're 80, if that's how you deal with people 470 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:10,960 on internet forums, it doesn't make you look better, stronger, smarter, faster. 471 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:12,800 It makes you look like an idiot. 472 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:18,040 And the entire 99.99% of the world is going, that guy's an idiot. 473 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:19,720 So the only person. 474 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:22,720 Yeah, the only person you're fooling is yourself. 475 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:25,360 It's it's so true. You know, I. 476 00:23:25,360 --> 00:23:28,400 I happen to I'm not a rabid fan, 477 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:33,000 but I've been known to fly a an electric, radio controlled airplane. 478 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:34,800 You know, I've got 1 or 2. 479 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:39,080 A big old tundra, you know, a high wing plane. 480 00:23:39,360 --> 00:23:42,840 And, so I fly it every once a while, and it's always enjoyable. 481 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:44,160 So sometimes I. Will. 482 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:46,200 Be looking 483 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:49,200 at products or something and they'll you'll do a search, right? 484 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:50,680 You know, hey, what about this? 485 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:54,240 And you will land on a forum, you know, when you click on a link 486 00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:58,920 and I will say this with the RC forums, 487 00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:03,000 they they almost always are what a forum should be. 488 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:06,800 In other words, there's there's always an influx of new people. 489 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:08,160 Hey, new to RC. 490 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:11,160 Just bought this, you know, $100 kit. 491 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:13,040 You know, can you give me any tips or tricks? 492 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:14,320 What batteries should I buy? 493 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:17,120 And I mean, invariably the people are helpful. 494 00:24:17,120 --> 00:24:19,560 Hey, welcome to RC fly. You're going to love that. 495 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:21,120 That's a great first kit. 496 00:24:21,120 --> 00:24:23,280 You know, here are things you should do. 497 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:24,920 And then somebody else wades in. 498 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:27,160 I just bought one of those for my son. 499 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:28,200 He's really liked it. 500 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:30,800 Here's a good link for buying spare parts. 501 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:33,480 You know, I mean, it's it's they don't start out with. 502 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:34,200 Well, you're an idiot 503 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:38,160 because you bought the cheapest airplane possible, you know, get off our forum. 504 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:39,280 You're not worthy. 505 00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:41,280 My airplanes cost $1,000. 506 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:44,120 Why should I, you know, even talk to you? 507 00:24:44,120 --> 00:24:45,840 They will do that, you know? 508 00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:47,480 I mean. I will say this, though. 509 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:49,240 I have a drone that I fly sometimes. 510 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:51,360 Take pictures and things like that. 511 00:24:51,360 --> 00:24:54,360 Not all the drone forums are the same way. 512 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:57,800 Right? Sometimes they tend to be a little. 513 00:24:57,800 --> 00:24:58,440 You know. 514 00:24:59,440 --> 00:24:59,920 I mean, they're 515 00:24:59,920 --> 00:25:03,000 like, you know, well, I was stupid that you bought that drone. 516 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:05,800 You obviously don't even. It's like, really? 517 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:09,240 And I've noticed something and this is a 518 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:13,280 I wouldn't say this is an absolute because I've seen folks that this 519 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:18,400 does not apply to, but generally in forums, when a guy says Bill Smith, 520 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:22,640 you know, first of all, or, you know, super drone guy 15 521 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:25,840 and they have 60 different, 522 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:29,000 pieces of kit, I've got this drone and just understand 523 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:33,000 these propellers and these, it's like the more they put there, generally. 524 00:25:33,360 --> 00:25:37,680 The. Shorter they are with people asking beginner questions. 525 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:39,360 And it's like very often. 526 00:25:39,360 --> 00:25:40,240 Yeah I agree. 527 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:42,000 Yeah yeah, yeah. 528 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:44,160 Well this I got. To be that guy. 529 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:45,160 On a gun forum. 530 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:49,480 You know if a guy is you know, 1911 killed dude is his hand. 531 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:52,800 And then you look down a lot of times and down there they'll say 532 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:56,440 four less autos, seven nighthawk customs from. 533 00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:56,680 Yeah. 534 00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:58,080 He's he's like, you know, 535 00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:01,560 he's building up his testosterone level to those around him. 536 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:05,400 And then but then the guy who doesn't he doesn't doesn't have anything. 537 00:26:06,120 --> 00:26:07,280 And then you find out that. 538 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:10,920 Well, no, actually, he's a retired, you know. 539 00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:13,560 1911 master 540 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:16,640 gunsmith, you know, and he just quietly. 541 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:17,560 Yeah. 542 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:21,960 Can you imagine if and and we I would say we're middle ground 543 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:25,480 in terms of numbers and, and gear 544 00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:29,040 and all that stuff, because we both know guys are got way more than we do. 545 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:30,880 But we do have a considerable number. 546 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:34,920 Can you imagine if we listed all that on our our handle on these fly, or. 547 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:36,080 Else it. 548 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:38,440 Will be embarrassing as what it. Would be. 549 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:39,960 He'll be like, yeah. What? 550 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:42,920 You know, because these people I will say when these people who, you know, a 551 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:47,200 lot of times I was on I was telling you about earlier, I was on a farm yesterday 552 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:51,240 in response to a request, what I please come on and and comment 553 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:53,280 and, and I 554 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:57,120 commented and, and it was like immediately they were just, well, you're an idiot, 555 00:26:57,120 --> 00:27:01,000 you don't know this and blah blah blah, you know, five, six, seven, eight, nine. 556 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:03,160 Yeah. And, 557 00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:07,680 finally somebody sent me a private message that said, you know, dear Mr. 558 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:09,560 Harrington, nice to have you on the forum. 559 00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:11,240 I've read about you for years. 560 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:13,480 You know, I've always respected your articles, 561 00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:16,480 and I like the podcast that you and Brant do. 562 00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:20,400 Sorry, but we have a lot of assholes on this forum, 563 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:23,920 and it's a shame that one of them or that they took it out on you. 564 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:26,080 And so I thank you, miss, I appreciate that. 565 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:27,840 It's certainly been my experience on for us. 566 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:31,360 But something struck me, though, is that he felt it necessary to do that 567 00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:35,280 personal as a private message 568 00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:38,200 as opposed to just posting it, you know, sorry 569 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:41,720 there's so many idiots on this forum because I would post it 570 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:45,600 on, you know, it's like, yeah, hey, why are you guys acting the fool? 571 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:48,120 We should be making this guy feel welcome. 572 00:27:48,120 --> 00:27:51,720 Years and years ago, it was when Smith and Wesson, 573 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:55,680 reintroduced the classic series of revolvers. 574 00:27:55,960 --> 00:28:00,720 It was in the really early 2000, and it was Clint Smith and I and Mike French. 575 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:05,600 Reno did like a one year certified effort 576 00:28:06,360 --> 00:28:10,960 at Smith and Wesson to get them to reintroduce the classical guns. 577 00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:13,000 Tony Mealy was in charge 578 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:16,120 of the, Performance Center, and he was the one who would, like, 579 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:18,600 be able to open the door because they came out initially 580 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:20,160 as performance Center guns. 581 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:22,320 And the president was Roy Cooney. 582 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:24,400 And and I got along great with it. 583 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:27,920 You know, like I told him, I said, hey, I have a really good first name, you know. 584 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:30,920 So, and, 585 00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:34,920 and so we were at the show one time and, 586 00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:40,120 and, Roy Cooney was there and Tony Mealey and Clint 587 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:44,160 and Mike and Tony said, yeah, I'm not having any luck, man. 588 00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:45,720 They're just not going for it. 589 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:47,720 And I said, well, let's go talk to Roy. 590 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:48,640 He's right there. 591 00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:51,000 And Tony was like, oh, okay. 592 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:53,960 We went over and I said, Roy, you need to bring back these guns 593 00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:56,160 because people would buy them, right? 594 00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:58,640 You know, we'll put them on the cover of our magazines. 595 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:01,400 And, and he looked at Tony a certain is that true? 596 00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:03,480 And he said, well, yeah. 597 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:06,120 And so he said, okay, let's do it. 598 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:07,440 And he turned around. He walked away. 599 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:10,680 Roy looked at me and he said, do you realize what just happened? 600 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:14,200 And I said, yeah, 601 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:18,520 so but my point is I wanted to build the behind 602 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:21,960 is that we put I think the first thing was, 603 00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:24,560 a Thunder Ranch special. 604 00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:26,760 That's how we kind of got a foot in the door. 605 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:29,400 So it was a N. Frame. 606 00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:32,520 44 special fixed sight, forged pencil barrel. 607 00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:34,520 It was like a really cool gun. Right. 608 00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:38,120 So it was first of the old school revolvers back. 609 00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:40,320 We put it on the cover. 610 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:41,400 Huge hit. 611 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:43,320 Everybody loved it, you know. 612 00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:46,320 Oh my God. Plainly thank you. Right. 613 00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:51,840 And I got a note from a like a one of the moderators or something 614 00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:55,640 on the Smith Wesson forum and he said, hey, this is really lit up the forum. 615 00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:56,200 I was wondering 616 00:29:56,200 --> 00:30:00,120 if you'd be kind enough to come over and and sort of tell the backstory. 617 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:02,040 And I said, sure. 618 00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:05,040 I didn't have a lot of experience with forums at the time. 619 00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:05,280 Yeah. 620 00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:09,000 So I logged in, identified myself where I find to enter American Handgun 621 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:14,040 or Magazine, and I will say that like I o and I asked, Clint 622 00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:18,800 and I asked Mike venture Reno and John Tavern, would they please log in? 623 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:19,840 Right. 624 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:21,520 So yeah. So there you go. 625 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:24,120 There I was, there was John Taff and making suppose 626 00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:27,160 there was Mike Venture Reno making there was Clint Smith making some posts. 627 00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:27,680 Right. 628 00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:30,480 And these guys didn't get that every day you know. 629 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:31,320 Yeah. So 630 00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:35,280 initially it was going pretty good. 631 00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:38,200 You know, and then. 632 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:40,320 And then it just went. 633 00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:41,640 To crap. 634 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:44,640 I mean, then it was just like, well, all you guys are 635 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:47,760 just, you know, all your shills for the gun industry. 636 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:49,880 And the only reason you put that on the cover was 637 00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:52,400 because you probably got a free win, which I didn't. 638 00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:53,840 Yeah. 639 00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:55,440 You know, you guys, John. 640 00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:57,800 Just doesn't know what he's talking about. Yeah. 641 00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:01,720 John Taffer doesn't know anything about big boar, Smith and Wesson handguns, 642 00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:02,960 you know, and. 643 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:05,880 I mean, it was just it was. Unbelievable. 644 00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:07,480 How how it. 645 00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:09,480 It twisted like that, you know. 646 00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:12,480 Now. No, to be fair, there were some people who said, 647 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:14,920 my gosh, I'm just thank you. We're so honored. 648 00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:16,480 We have I mean, hey, guys. 649 00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:17,600 Look, Mike Venture 650 00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:22,200 Reno is posting here, talking to us about how this happened behind the scenes. 651 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:25,640 You know, you know, Royal, I've ridden handgun for years. 652 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:28,360 Thank you for coming on Clint Smith. Oh my gosh. 653 00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:28,840 You know. 654 00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:31,720 Yeah. John Taff in a row a lot of people are really happy. 655 00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:33,840 And we were really flattered and thrilled. 656 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:35,600 You know, we thought this is fun. 657 00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:36,600 It's nice to be able to go 658 00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:39,600 one on one with these people who've been reading the magazines. 659 00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:43,720 But a boy, after about six pages, it was like, 660 00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:45,600 Yeah. 661 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:49,600 And then I got emails from John and Clint and and Duke 662 00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:53,640 just and they all basically said, well, that went so fast. 663 00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:55,960 I don't know. 664 00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:59,400 Well, you know, it's great when you and they never but they never went back. 665 00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:00,600 You know. 666 00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:03,120 I never went back, you know. So yeah. So Mr. 667 00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:05,160 Troll on the forum did that serve you. 668 00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:08,160 Well, you ran these guys off. 669 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:09,520 You know, I don't care. 670 00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:12,520 Which is a shame because like I said, you know, generally 671 00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:15,480 like I said, the Smith and Wesson forum, the Kolbe forums, the, 672 00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:18,480 you know, Browning high power forms, they're usually pretty nice. 673 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:22,960 And those first few page posts, I was thinking, wow, okay, this is pretty cool. 674 00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:25,040 This is a new one. 675 00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:25,480 Yeah. 676 00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:28,400 And even then the the moderators gears, 677 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:30,640 a couple of moderators waded in and said, hey, gentlemen, 678 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:32,600 could we be a little bit more respectful here? 679 00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:36,120 These guys are taking the time to come to, you know, and it was like, right. 680 00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:39,560 Kind of after that, you know, but still I mean, I don't know, this is 681 00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:42,720 I think the point is we want to talk about forums. 682 00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:46,000 We both had terrible experiences on forums. 683 00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:46,760 I think 684 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:50,880 many people don't go to forums because of that. 685 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:54,520 I see a lot of fanboys go to forums because they all get together, 686 00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:58,320 you know, typing on their computers in their mothers basements. 687 00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:02,040 And, you know, they all argue about tactics, right? 688 00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:06,160 Are they all argue why the new fill in the blank gun isn't any good, 689 00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:10,280 although none of them have ever actually seen one or shot it, you know. And. 690 00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:14,360 So I don't know if it's a mutual admiration society or what. 691 00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:19,000 You know, for me, it should be more of a kind of fellowship thing, you know? 692 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,480 Hey, I really like single shot rifles, actually. 693 00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:22,640 That's a good forum. 694 00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:25,200 I've been on a couple of single shot rifle forums. 695 00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:26,520 They're always respectful. 696 00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:27,720 They're always interested. 697 00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:30,360 They always are helpful there, you know? 698 00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:32,880 And it's fun, you know. 699 00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:36,360 And so to me it should be fun. So 700 00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:40,120 I don't know there's anything we can do about it. 701 00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:43,280 I just got to say this is probably the easiest episode we've ever done. 702 00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:46,280 To sum up, don't be a jerk, you know? 703 00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:48,120 But I've realized this. 704 00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:51,360 This kind of applies to life in general, but it applies here. 705 00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:55,920 We don't have any, shame anymore, and we don't have any respect. 706 00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:59,160 You know, we're not respectful of each other. 707 00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:01,720 Driving any place you drive in the country used to be. 708 00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:04,720 There was a few cities known for having awful drivers. 709 00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:07,800 It's everywhere across the entire world now. 710 00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:09,320 And shame. 711 00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:13,080 Nobody's embarrassed of doing stupid, awful things anymore. 712 00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:13,920 You should too. 713 00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:17,400 If you did something dumb, for the most part, you'd be embarrassed by it. 714 00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:19,640 And now a lot of that stuff's even held up is. 715 00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:21,960 See, I'm assertive now. 716 00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:23,760 You're still a jackass to the rest. 717 00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:26,760 Of us, so don't be that guy. 718 00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:31,160 Our freedom will be in in sharp focus here, because I. 719 00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:32,960 I saw this thing not too long ago. 720 00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:34,160 I was about traveling. 721 00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:36,200 I mean, when I first 722 00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:39,840 started to travel in the late 60s, I was young, 14, 15 years old. 723 00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:44,280 Well, I mean, you you dress nicely right now. 724 00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:47,960 I mean, I remember in 63, when my parents flew 725 00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:51,680 across the world to Australia, to my dad was stationed at the embassy there. 726 00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:56,480 I mean, I actually wore this, like, little boy sport coat with a tie. 727 00:34:56,920 --> 00:35:00,680 You know, my mom was dressed in a long sleeved nice dress with white gloves, 728 00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:02,600 you know. And a hat. 729 00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:06,400 And everyone was was very polite and very well-behaved. 730 00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:09,360 And there were no screaming children running up and down the aisles. 731 00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:12,200 That would have been unthinkable, you know? Yeah. Because. 732 00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:13,320 Because one of the stewardesses 733 00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:16,320 would have grabbed him by his ear and marched him back to his mom. 734 00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:17,760 Yeah. You know. Yep. 735 00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:21,600 And and then and they were talking about how the, 736 00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:25,000 the average airport crowd, if you look at today, what is it. 737 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:26,280 They're in their jammies. 738 00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:28,720 They got their would be blankets. 739 00:35:28,720 --> 00:35:31,080 You know, they're all got their head buried in the phone. 740 00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:36,040 Just there's nobody has any personal, you know, care or attention or pride, 741 00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:38,400 I think. And of course, like you said, if you talk to them, they say, 742 00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:39,680 oh, what's it matter? 743 00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:40,200 You know. 744 00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:41,400 Well it's. 745 00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:44,720 Self respect, you know, and, 746 00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:48,720 and the forums, if you're one of those people who do that, 747 00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:51,760 well then I'm, you're not showing your self 748 00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:55,320 respect more then you're not showing the other guy respect I think you know. 749 00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:57,240 So yeah. But and you know everyone's. 750 00:35:57,240 --> 00:36:01,440 Well I get this much enthusiastic wait, 751 00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:04,920 wait that much enthusiastic. 752 00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:07,120 About starting right. 753 00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:07,960 Yeah. 754 00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:12,440 About starting a forum because I think, well, you know what? 755 00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:13,680 We'll have something different. 756 00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:18,800 But I don't know how to manage it, because how do you vet people? 757 00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:20,040 How do you. 758 00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:24,960 You know, and you have to monitor everyone constantly, you know, it's. 759 00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:27,960 Been tried and it's failed. Badly. 760 00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:28,720 Yeah. 761 00:36:28,720 --> 00:36:28,960 You know. 762 00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:31,960 The only thing I will say is, 763 00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:35,040 I think revolver Wkyc.com. 764 00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:36,160 Is that it? Revolver guy? 765 00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:36,400 Yeah. 766 00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:39,200 Mike wood, world revolver guy, dot com. 767 00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:42,120 I'm pretty sure that's it. 768 00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:45,040 It's good website and his 769 00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:49,840 his comments at the end of articles are it's essentially a forum right. 770 00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:50,240 Yeah. 771 00:36:50,240 --> 00:36:51,600 But he does two things. 772 00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:56,400 Number one, when you post a comment, he vets it 773 00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:00,320 before it gets live. 774 00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:00,800 Right. 775 00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:03,800 And I think that has that means a lot. 776 00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:04,440 Yeah. 777 00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:06,000 You know because that way it's like. 778 00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:08,440 Causes my comfort. 779 00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:11,120 Well and that's the thing is like I don't know how I mean 780 00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:15,480 when I post something because I sometimes will go on as a favor, 781 00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:17,640 like he'll do some article about something I know about 782 00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:21,000 and I'll go on and I'll say, gee, Mike, it was nice to see that great information. 783 00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:24,120 And but mine don't go 784 00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:27,960 live for at least a day or so because he vets even mind that small. 785 00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:29,520 Yeah, right. 786 00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:33,200 But I will say, though that it's it's really nice to read a 787 00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:34,520 you read an article and not. 788 00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:38,000 I really enjoy reading the comments because it's always people who say things, 789 00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:42,000 you know, like, yeah, I had one of those revolvers and this was my experience. 790 00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:44,800 And, and another guy will wade it and say, my father carried 791 00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:47,440 one of those as a police officer, and this is what we found. 792 00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:49,960 And or, you know, I mean, it's like, yeah, this is fun. 793 00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:54,520 But gosh, if we had a forum, but we would it would be full time. 794 00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:59,280 Just answering the comments in the YouTube video is almost a full time job for me. 795 00:37:59,920 --> 00:38:02,960 It is. Oh, and I will, I will, you will. 796 00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:06,520 I will say I have discovered the delete button. 797 00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:11,000 And I'll tell you, 798 00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:14,520 if somebody just wades in and they do periodically. 799 00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:17,600 Well, this is stupid. Nobody knows anything. 800 00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:18,360 What they're talking about. 801 00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:20,560 Anyone who watches this is an idiot. 802 00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:22,840 And you're going to die in hell, right? 803 00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:25,600 I used to try to go, gee, I'm sorry you hear it 804 00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:28,600 that way or I'm sorry, you know, and now I just go. 805 00:38:28,720 --> 00:38:31,360 Delete by, 806 00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:32,600 Yeah. 807 00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:33,240 When I do that, 808 00:38:33,240 --> 00:38:37,200 I pretend that they're physically being thrown into a garbage dumpster 809 00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:40,440 and they're screaming the whole way down, and it makes me feel good. 810 00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:43,920 So. And that's. Very funny. 811 00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:46,800 We've gone way too long on this, but I was gonna see it. 812 00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:50,080 It inspired a lot of enthusiasm on our part. 813 00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:54,000 But I got to say this too, and this sounds this a little self-serving, 814 00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:58,320 but I'm going to say it when you write that stuff in the comments or the emails. 815 00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:03,960 We long ago learned to have very thick skin as gun writers. 816 00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:06,240 So you're not harming us at all. 817 00:39:06,240 --> 00:39:07,200 You're just not. 818 00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:10,400 Don't waste your time though, because we had delete or we just go, 819 00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:14,200 if you're really awful, occasionally we'll send them to you 820 00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:16,200 to see what this jackass said. 821 00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:18,080 This is. Great. Oh, yeah. You believe. Him? 822 00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:20,640 We do share that. Yeah. And you know what? 823 00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:21,760 I'll be honest with you, too. 824 00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:24,440 If you posted. And this is your real name, 825 00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:25,960 which there 826 00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:28,960 are some people who do that, you know, I've had people with. 827 00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:29,240 And you, 828 00:39:29,240 --> 00:39:33,240 because you click on their channel, it's like, oh, it's there's an actual guy. And, 829 00:39:33,240 --> 00:39:37,680 you know, here's his contact information and he does a lot of gun videos. 830 00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:40,880 And so maybe he's taken me to task for something, 831 00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:42,760 but they do it in a positive way. 832 00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:43,480 You know, dear Mr. 833 00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:45,960 Hannity, I saw your review of this. 834 00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:46,600 I had one. 835 00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:49,520 My experiences are different. Here's what I be. 836 00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:50,880 That's great. What's for? 837 00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:55,320 And he's not afraid to post with his real name, you know, 838 00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:59,800 but yeah, people are doing these open up the door, punch you, and close the door 839 00:39:59,880 --> 00:40:02,920 so you never know who it is they're hiding behind. 840 00:40:03,240 --> 00:40:05,720 You know, the anonymity. 841 00:40:05,720 --> 00:40:08,280 It's like, sorry. You're just afraid. Cat. 842 00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:10,600 It is. 843 00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:13,440 And I'll close real quick with a story I told you right before we start 844 00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:15,000 recording. 845 00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:17,840 I've got, you know, I'm a freelancer, so I've got part time jobs. 846 00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:19,920 I'm doing some work for a government agency, 847 00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:22,760 and we posted a positive, 848 00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:25,120 PR piece the other day. 849 00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:28,120 And one of the first comments on social media was, 850 00:40:28,240 --> 00:40:30,120 politicians are corrupt and you suck. 851 00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:31,320 And you wrote awful. 852 00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:34,440 And I thought, wow, okay, I wonder who this person is. 853 00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:35,320 I clicked on them. 854 00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:38,280 They don't even they don't even live in our state. 855 00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:41,120 That's like, what dog do you have in this fight? 856 00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:44,080 That you're so hateful that you had to go to the trouble 857 00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:48,400 to find the post we made, and then you you spent the time to comment on it. 858 00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:52,600 I thought, man, that is a sad human being, so. 859 00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:55,400 Or mentally ill and it may go together, who knows? 860 00:40:55,400 --> 00:41:00,240 But just don't be that guy or that gal and you know they're still out there. 861 00:41:00,240 --> 00:41:03,360 But, for the most part, I think I really do 862 00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:07,240 think most of the people that do that are under the influence of anonymity 863 00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:12,800 and they're, they're, behaving to their dark side instead of their light side. 864 00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:16,320 There's a few people that are just flat jerks always going to be jerks, 865 00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:19,280 and they're going to be the one that will have three people at their funeral. 866 00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:21,720 And two of those are probably paid to be there. 867 00:41:21,720 --> 00:41:24,400 But I think the vast majority of them and like you said, right. 868 00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:25,640 I get comments cause I'm, 869 00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:28,960 I'm sorry I said that I was I was just being this or I was having a bad day. 870 00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:31,320 I completely respect that. 871 00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:34,000 But, don't be that guy. 872 00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:35,880 And if you do own it. Yeah. 873 00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:38,880 So it's all it's it's the. 874 00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:42,120 Yeah, it's the ready fire aim syndrome. 875 00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:43,720 You know, they do. 876 00:41:43,720 --> 00:41:47,440 They just fire something off and then they do or do not apologize later. 877 00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:50,880 So I think to me and I'll wind my end of this up, 878 00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:55,520 is that if you're one of those people in your real life or on a forum 879 00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:59,200 or wherever to where you're just the king of the grumpy forest no matter what, 880 00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:02,200 I think that it's it's 881 00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:05,200 a real self-image issue there. 882 00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:10,240 I have you ever met somebody who is a very calm and very peaceful? 883 00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:11,640 And do you mean. 884 00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:14,640 Like Roy Huntington, the Missouri Buddha? 885 00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:19,560 But they they don't seem to really get wound up about things, you know? 886 00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:24,120 And if somebody messes up, you know, they may be more inclined to say, 887 00:42:24,720 --> 00:42:25,120 you know what? 888 00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:28,120 I can see you're struggling with that, you know, can I help you? 889 00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:28,760 You know. Yeah. 890 00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:31,960 Rather than or you're a deal. 891 00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:34,080 What? Why are you doing that? You're an idiot. 892 00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:34,800 To what? To me? 893 00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:36,520 That only just means that you're 894 00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:38,440 you're you're tearing down the other people 895 00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:40,240 because you have a lack of self-confidence. 896 00:42:40,240 --> 00:42:42,880 And so, sorry. Are you negative forum people. 897 00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:44,560 Yeah. We're on to. Yeah. 898 00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:46,080 Yeah. So exactly. 899 00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:49,360 And I was going to say and when the guys that are always very calm 900 00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:52,160 when they get wound up, the rare times they do 901 00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:55,160 you got to stand back and go, oh, oh this is important. 902 00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:56,760 This is a big deal. 903 00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:58,520 So that's yeah. One. Yeah. 904 00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:01,560 When everything's shouting nothing's important. 905 00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:06,000 So anyway well we, we I'm looking down at our timer, man. 906 00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:06,640 We went long. 907 00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:09,640 This may be one of our longest episodes in years, 908 00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:12,880 but I am glad that we made it to 2026. 909 00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:15,720 And hopefully we'll have a lot more episodes. 910 00:43:15,720 --> 00:43:17,440 And of course, we welcome. 911 00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:21,840 Roy is now our official co-host and glad that, he's still with us 912 00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:23,160 after all these years. 913 00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:27,360 So, make sure that you check out our our great new sponsor, Tango Down. 914 00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:31,240 Visit Tango down.com to explore the full lineup 915 00:43:31,240 --> 00:43:34,560 and sign up for email updates so you don't miss what's next? 916 00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:37,720 Tango down combat gear without peer. 917 00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:43,120 So leave us a comment or course you can reach us 918 00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:47,560 editor at Guns Podcast dot U.S and check out Guns Podcast. 919 00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:50,320 Dot us for more information. 920 00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:53,920 And other than that, Roy here as we start 2026, 921 00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:58,000 any final words of wisdom or the floor is yours. 922 00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:01,600 Don't let it get you down, ladies and gentlemen. 923 00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:05,040 You know, life truly is what you make it. 924 00:44:05,720 --> 00:44:06,120 Yeah. 925 00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:11,800 And you know, the, the Stoics, the old stoic guys used to 926 00:44:12,240 --> 00:44:15,840 they said something, and I was struck a chord with me as they said, 927 00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:20,120 if you meet resistance or failure, then make that the way. 928 00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:21,680 Right. 929 00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:24,400 And and I know it's hard to get your head around that kind of. 930 00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:28,440 But, I had somebody not too long ago who called me up and he said, oh, man, 931 00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:30,200 I got laid off from my job. 932 00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:33,120 And I said, well, man, that's great news. 933 00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:34,680 And he said, well, what do you mean? 934 00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:37,680 And I said, look at all the opportunity you have now. 935 00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:40,920 I mean, you just you, you've opened up so many doors 936 00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:45,160 and yeah, like three days later he had a better job. 937 00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:46,960 You know. 938 00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:50,480 And he just went, gosh, I didn't even think of it like that before. 939 00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:53,480 So anyway, good luck in 2026. 940 00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:56,480 Be nicer if you're on a forum, please. 941 00:44:57,360 --> 00:45:00,320 And as Brant says, make a comment down below. 942 00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:03,320 Tell us why we're idiots for feeling this way. 943 00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:05,520 And you just opened the door. 944 00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:06,640 But that's fine. 945 00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:08,400 You got that that delete button. 946 00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:10,440 Anyway, Roy, thanks again. 947 00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:14,320 Thanks for everything you've done for the guns podcast, and I'm glad 948 00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:17,520 that we're still here, still talking about fun gun stuff, 949 00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:19,960 and hopefully we'll be doing it for a long, long time. 950 00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:25,080 So, as I always say at the end of every single episode on behalf of Roy 951 00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:29,320 Huntington and Brant Weed saying, now get out there and get shooting.