Episode Transcript
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The strategy,
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of what they're trying to accomplish
is very simple.
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Remove the financial incentive
for making gun videos.
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If creators like us
can't make any money off the content,
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then the content dries up.
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And if the content dries up,
then the culture dies off.
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That's the play,
and it's their way of doing whatever
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they can to essentially destroy
the Second Amendment in our country.
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I call it digital terrorism.
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Hi there and welcome to the Guns
Podcast, U.S
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presented by Guns magazine and sponsored
by our good friends at Ruger.
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Thanks for joining us here on one of
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As we chat with the interesting folks
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Well, today is a rare appearance.
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The interesting person
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Roy's taking a little time off this week,
and that's fine,
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because there's something
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Well, today's short episode
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is about this platform's
ongoing war against gun.
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Video. And yes, we've been snagged again.
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Now, I'm not going to name
the company that we're talking about
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because I don't want to feed
the algorithm anymore.
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But if you're watching this,
you already know what we're talking about.
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In other words,
if you're here, you're here.
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And if you're listening on Apple Podcasts
or Spotify
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or one of those other audio
only channels, I'd say stick with us.
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You need to hear this out,
because this really affects everybody
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in the two way community,
not just the folks who watch us on.
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You know, where between the cat videos
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and those unskippable constipation
advertisements.
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So let's talk about
the timeline of what happened
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and how we got where we are
on August 16th, of this year, 2025,
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we got a community guidelines
strike on an older video.
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And if you're not familiar with tube,
what that means is you're in trouble.
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Now, one strike
means that you have to go dark for a week.
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In other words, your channel
is still there, but you can't touch it.
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You can't edit anything.
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You can't do anything to promote it.
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It's just sitting there and your audience
is slowly withering away.
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If you get two strikes in 90 days,
that's two weeks dark and then if you get
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that third, community guideline strike in
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three or in 90 days, your channel's gone.
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No ifs, ands or buts.
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No questions, no appeals.
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You're just gone.
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Obviously, we call that the death penalty.
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So we had just gotten off probation.
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And then on November 13th
we got another strike.
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This one was for our video, Roy
Huntington Short about the Taylor
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and Company engraved cattleman
single action Army.
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For those of you that are familiar
with guns, you know that the 1873 design,
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Single Action
Army is certainly a well known gun
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that's used in many,
many mass shootings and things like that.
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So apparently that's what ran afoul of,
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this platform and its, algorithms
that search for that kind of thing.
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So just like that,
we went dark again until yesterday.
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Thursday, November 20th, 2025.
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The day before I recorded this.
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So that's the reality of being a gun
related, video channel right now.
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So I do find it curious that,
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we were up for two whole days, and then
we got another community guideline strike.
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I assume it's just random, right?
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Well, let's talk about the bigger picture.
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So there is a bunch of stuff to unpack
here, but here is the short version.
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We are the latest casualty
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in the this platform's ongoing quiet
and undeclared war on gun content.
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The sudden paranoia.
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And it's, certainly not new.
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NBC news even did a piece on this in 2024.
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Talk to some of, of the few gun channels
that are bigger than we are.
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And, they had run afoul,
they'd run into the same thing. And,
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NBC discussed it with them.
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So basically, the mainstream media
has even acknowledged what's happening.
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So this isn't a new problem.
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And I know if you're an avid gun video
watcher on this platform, several other,
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channels have either gone away or suffered
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the wrath of the censors at this platform.
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So the company that actually owns
the platform, and I'm not going to use
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its name either, we'll just call it
the Super Mega search engine company
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is, in my opinion, working hand-in-hand
with anti-gun groups like any town.
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And the strategy,
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of what they're trying to accomplish
is very simple
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remove the financial incentive
for making gun videos.
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If creators like us can't make any money
off the content, then the content dries up
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and if the content dries up,
then the culture dies off.
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That's the play,
and it's their way of doing whatever
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they can to essentially destroy
the Second Amendment in our country.
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Now, the lever that this platform is
pulling is a new, stricter
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interpretation
of what it means to promote sales or link
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to sites, the deal
with firearms or certain accessories.
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Let me read the very first sentence
in their firearms community guidelines.
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It says don't post content
if the purpose is to sell firearms
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or certain accessories
through direct sales, or links to site
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that sell these arms, and then they go on
to list the accessories.
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And you know the drill.
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There's there's some other stuff
to machine guns and how to build machine
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guns and other things,
but basically number one's the biggie
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and the catchall that
if you're promoting the sales of firearms,
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you can't be on this platform.
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So, you know,
the overarching problem here is
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they're ignoring the fact
that firearms ownership is codified
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and protected in the United States
Constitution.
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So let's go back now and,
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talk about this retroactive enforcement
that they are suddenly very fond of.
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I call it digital terrorism.
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It's the biggest problem is
not that there's rules themselves.
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I get that, and it's a private platform,
and they're allowed to make whatever rules
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they want.
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But it's the fact that they're
using retroactive enforcement
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to go after gun videos.
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They keep going back
and flagging old videos.
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In our case, we just got a warning for
episode number 127 of this very podcast.
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That's, a couple of hundred videos ago,
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and it was actually a audio only podcast.
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And they apparently their new AI algorithm
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can actually listen
and transcribe, the episodes.
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And they decided that we violated
those community guidelines.
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So the problem that the gun tube
community is facing is
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how can we follow the rules
when the rules are being enforced
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in a way
that we didn't know about way back when?
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It's like they keep moving the goalposts,
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not only between the one yard line
and the 50 yard line,
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they're moving it clear out of the stadium
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and then painting it
to look like a fire hydrant.
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So that's kind of the problem
that we're facing.
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And it's, basically the idea of
how can you comply
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with guidelines when they're constantly
changing without warning.
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So as I said,
I call this a form of digital terrorism.
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You don't know when or where
they're going to strike next.
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And here's something interesting
that we noticed.
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Also, we only started getting this
really heavy scrutiny
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after we crossed
the 100,000 subscriber threshold.
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Apparently they don't care
about the smaller channels,
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but once you cross that, that's, kind of a
big tipping number for this platform.
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So you hit 100 K and suddenly
you get a new set of eyes.
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Even though they,
they treat everyone equally.
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Right.
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So, you know, here's what really twists
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the knife is the fact
that they're also very arbitrary in this.
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I personally went and found a wired
magazine video
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that has 2.3 million views
where they literally build and fire
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a 3D printed gun during a story
about a recent famous accused murderer.
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Apparently. That's fine, I guarantee you.
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If we had even talked about it,
we'd probably get flagged.
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But they actually do it on camera,
demonstrated it, and it's okay.
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But yet, of course, like I said, a video
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discussing the historic Single action
Army revolver strike.
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So, you know, it's it's pretty clear.
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Some channels
get a pass, others get crushed.
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And if you're a gun tuber,
that's what they're going to crush.
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If you're, part of the mainstream media
and you hold
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certain left leaning views,
apparently you can talk about anything,
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firearms
related in the guise of education.
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It's just the people that actually know
what they're talking about
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aren't allowed to.
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So is there a solution?
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Well, here's the hard truth.
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There is no solution. Really.
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This platform that we're on
is the Brazilian pound gorilla.
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Everything else, Rumble, Odyssey, Vimeo,
you name it,
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they're good platforms,
but they're tiny in comparison to the one
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that we're currently on, at least
as of the moment that I upload this,
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viewership everywhere else doesn't
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even add up together to part of a fraction
that's on this platform.
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So I will say that we do
maintain a presence on Rumble,
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and you can absolutely find us there.
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But being honest,
the numbers are absolutely nowhere near
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they are on this particular channel
or platform.
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So by the way, here's a little pro tip.
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If you don't happen to see us
and you wonder why suddenly there's
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no new videos, just go and do a search
for guns podcast us.
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Sometimes the newest episode is hiding out
there because, you know, when we're,
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dark, we can't announce anything,
so we have some other ways.
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And interestingly, as I said before
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that the small channels
on some of our little,
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hideouts, I guess you would say
we never get bothered.
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So go searching for guns, podcast us,
and I'll talk about another way
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you can find us. In just a moment.
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So in the long run,
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we're talking about whether we want
to move everything over to Rumble.
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Like many gun channels have done.
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Or do something else.
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I would like to hear from you,
because, you know, we need to know.
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Would you follow us there?
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Or would that be a deal breaker?
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You know, let's just be honest.
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It takes resources to produce a show
like this, and resources aren't free.
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So we have to be able to monetize
these videos,
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either by advertising or sponsors
or things like that.
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And if we can't do that,
if we'll run afoul of this platform,
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we're done.
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So and, you know, that's
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exactly what the platform is trying to do.
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It's pretty simple.
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I keep saying it, but cut the money,
kill the content, kill the culture.
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That's that's
what they're trying to do here.
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So let's talk about where we go
going forward.
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We are pushing forward.
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Gun videos are absolutely becoming
an endangered species on this platform,
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which is what the Silicon Valley
technocrats want.
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But unfortunately,
we can't threaten them with a boycott.
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Engage.
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Gun owners are a tiny fraction
of the viewership on this platform,
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so frankly, we don't matter.
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Plus, as a group, they hate us anyway,
so they're not going to listen.
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Frankly, they would be thrilled to death
if we all left.
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So where does that leave us?
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Well,
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if we move to another platform, we lose
a huge chunk of our audience instantly.
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So what are gun tubers supposed to do?
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I do think there's one possible remedy
that might possibly work,
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and that is by calling
on the administration and Congress
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to actually follow
through on all those campaign promises
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they made,
and do more to protect the ability
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to speak freely about firearms
on this platform and others.
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The thing is, legislation
is not going to solve the problem.
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As we've seen many times,
these giant companies
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can always find a loophole,
or they simply just ignore the law until
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finally the government takes them to court
and, slaps them around a little bit
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and threaten and threatens them
with losing a bit of their revenue.
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So suddenly they see the light
and they decide to, abide by the law.
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But I think that's, pointless.
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Basically, passing
a feel good law isn't the answer here.
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What?
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This is going to require is heavy pressure
from people with platforms
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much bigger than mine and and yours
and the rest of the gun tubers
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we need, as I said, the administration,
the our friends in the administration.
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And we do have several very good friends
and, the United States,
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Congress, Senate representatives,
we need conservative elected officials.
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And I'm saying, where are you now?
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I call on you to lean on this platform
and make them understand
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that they're messing
with a constitutionally protected right,
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and whether they find it distasteful
or not, it's the law of the land.
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And they need to be more, fair
and evenhanded
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about dealing with with gun to.
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So my closing thoughts,
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well,
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things are quiet for now,
but the lesson is simple.
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The, the platform can silencers,
but they're not going to stop us.
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We, as I said before,
we are looking into some alternatives,
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such as moving to rumble and maybe just
putting promotional, videos on this site.
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And that's what a lot of channels
have been forced to do.
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As I said, I'm very interested to hear
what the audience thinks about that.
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So please, please leave us a comment
if you're watching this on that platform.
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And, if, if you want to reach out to me,
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that's editor at guns podcast.us.
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I don't really know
which way to go with this.
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Again, it's the choice
between run afoul of the censors here
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and get taken down
and maybe off the channel,
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or we go to another channel where
there's nobody and and it's pretty hard
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to justify doing what we do
because there's no money to be made.
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And, it's
not just the advertising revenue,
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but it's when we try to get sponsorships.
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Do you have 100,000 viewers
or do you have a thousand?
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If you were a business owner,
it's pretty simple math.
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So that's our quandary we face.
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And that's
why I'm, talking to you right now.
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So as I said before, in case of emergency,
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you can always find us, links
to wherever the podcast might be.
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Living in hiding by going to guns
magazine.com under the podcast tab,
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or of course, our website, Guns Podcast,
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dot us and make sure you don't go.com.
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We get some questions about that.
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It's guns podcast dot U.S.
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I actually liked that web address
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better than the other,
so make sure you check that out.
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And of course we've got merch and some
other fun stuff and blogs and all that.
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So anyway, guns magazine, dot com,
the blog section or Guns podcast.us.
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But bottom line is, as long as you want
to hear content about your,
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constitutionally protected right,
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we're going to find a way
to keep bringing it to you.
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There may only be three of you out there
by the time we get done, but,
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we're going to do all we can
until it's just impossible to do anymore.
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So that's the situation.
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It'll be interesting
to see how long this video stays up,
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because I'm thumbing my nose
at this particular platform,
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and, they probably won't like that,
as we've discovered.
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It's, interesting.
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If you appeal any of these rulings,
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you will instantly, suffer the wrath.
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So, I get it.
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It's a privately owned platform.
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They can do what they want,
but they're wrong.
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And the people that are running
it are wrong.
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And, we need to figure out a way to,
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do something
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so that we can continue
talking about, guns.
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As I said, if they remove the videos,
they kill the culture,
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and the Second amendment dies
from lack of support.
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So I appreciate you listening to this.
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Short rant that I have.
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I, hope Roy is going to be back next week.
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I hope I'm going to be back next week.
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But as I said, if you can't find us,
make sure you go to guns magazine,
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dot com,
the podcast tab or Guns Podcast U.S.
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So on behalf of everybody
who worked so hard,
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here at the Guns Podcast U.S and yet we
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sometimes don't get to publish it, but
they're still working behind the scenes.
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But anyway,
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as I said, I'm your host, Brent Wheat,
and I'm reminding you once again,
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even if they won't let you talk about it
now get out there and get shooting.
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And start.
