On the ground there was a footprint, a big footprint.

So I was that moment on.

I started spending all the time I could spare searching for the beast.

Then I spent time I couldn't spare.

That's how I lost my job and my friends.

So sad.

Well, I didn't tell it so you could cry in your sprouts or whatever that is, darling.

I'm telling it so that your father won't make the same mistake.

Well, I appreciate what you're saying, Doctor Wrightwood, but there's a big difference between your story and mine.

Not as big as you think.

Maybe even bigger.

No, no, no.

You're kidding yourself.

I remember what you told me when you came into my shop.

Bigfoot can come live with us.

We'll accept the responsibility.

Can't you imagine what a Bigfoot would do to your home?

And what I can, You're good people.

I'm going to say this once.

I'm going to say it's simple.

And I hope to God, for your sakes, you all listen.

There are no abominable snowmen.

There are no Sasquatches.

There are no big feet.

Herman and a remake of Matthew Fonsley, A kicker Coen brothers send up with Timothy Shalom.

A Citizen Came prequel.

A Midnight Cowboy sequel.

Alvin and the Chip monsters have another squeak.

There's so many new ways to revisit Sideways.

Photographic novel is how we choose to update, but we still hold fast.

You can't change the past on the Ruined Childhoods podcast.

On our last each episode of the podcast, we sang the praises of Home for the Holidays, the 1995 comedy about a woman removed from her comfort zone and brought to the burbs as she and her family desperately try to make the best of a bad situation.

The movie is fondly remembered for its cast, featuring the likes of Holly Hunter, Claire Danes, Robert Downey Junior, Anne Bancroft, Charles Darning, Steve Guttenberg, Dylan McDermott, Geraldine Chaplin, and Cynthia Stevenson.

The film was directed by Jodie Foster and seamlessly blends the sights and sounds of the mid 90s with the stuck in time feeling of visiting older relatives.

This especially rings true in the film soundtrack, which features 90s songs like Rusted Roots, Evil Ways and 60s songs like Janis Joplin's Piece of My Heart, one of her most iconic songs.

In fact, Piece of My Heart is one of the 10 tunes Joplin performs on August 17th, 1969 at an outdoor music festival in Woodstock, NY.

During Janis Joplin's 10 hour wait to take stage after her arrival, she passed time by smoking pot, shooting heroin and mingling with the crowd.

The following morning, Janis chilled with her Preggers pal Joan Baez to watch Jimi Hendrix's now legendary performance while sitting in a van belonging to another Woodstock stand up performer, Joe Cocker.

Born John Cocker in Sheffield, England, Joe skyrocketed to fame thanks to his 1969 debut album's many distinct cover songs, notably The Beatles with A Little Help From My Friends, which is also the title of the album.

This particular cover was later cemented in pop culture infamy due to its use by the show The Wonder Years as its theme song.

But The Wonder Years isn't Cocker's only soundtrack appearance.

He has tracks on the soundtracks for 1981's Modern Romance, 1982 is An Officer and a Gentleman, 1988's Bull Durham, and this episode's film, among many others.

Greeting Starfighters.

This is Ruined Childhood's episode 300.

I'm John, joined as always by my brother Dan.

On this episode, we're talking about Harry and the Hendersons, the story of a creature removed from his natural habitat and brought to the burbs as he and his adoptive family desperately try to make the best of a bad situation.

Holy cow, Dan 300.

Episodes.

Yeah, wow, indeed do.

You have any favourites from the bunch?

Oh boy, we just can take a moment to just reminisce about the past 299 episodes.

Oh, you know, you know, there's so many.

So just thinking about the, the different ideas and, and approaches and, and I guess I don't know, little things that I and particularly proud of, like contributions.

And it happened to come up today as I was talking to someone at work about my idea to remake Groundhog Day as Anchorman 3.

Oh.

And we, it was on that we never, we've never done Anchorman episode, but we did our Groundhog Day episode and it was with the original Anchorman taking place in the 70 like early 70's, the second Anchorman taking place in the 80s.

It would make sense for the third Anchorman to take place around 1993 and actually have it where like Ron Burgundy, I, I, I mean, with technology today, anything is possible to actually have like, you know, to see like Phil Connors in the background doing his report while Ron Burgundy is doing his from a different angle.

Yeah, but.

Where it's actually like the same day and Ron Burgundy is also caught.

He's also in a time loop.

So I was just thinking, thinking about that 1 today.

I, I mean, so many great movies.

And the other thing I think about is like the different, the, because I think we kind of started this thinking like, Oh yeah, we'll get to talk about our favorites and it'll be a good excuse to like go back and rewatch some old ones.

And we have dug some up that for one reason or another did not.

I mean, for some the, the reasons were obvious.

For others, maybe not so much.

But like, because we've seen those movies where it's like, man, why don't more people talk about this movie?

I think we always come back to Gabriel over the White House.

Gabriel over the White House.

A big one or the mid?

Prize suggests.

The man Speaking of vaccinating movie our presidents.

Yes, or fictional presidents run.

Yeah.

Right.

Yeah.

And just thinking about those movies, that was what cue the winged serpent cue, which I'd always heard of.

But like that's the other thing is movies that I've like had heard of but never would have actually sat down and watched them.

You know, and I'm glad that you brought up a cue the winged serpent.

So just the other day I was meeting up with a friend of mine who recently moved to Portland, which is where I live.

We met when we were both living in Los Angeles.

And he who is also like a film fan, he's a, a, a cinematographer himself, camera operator, DP, whatever you want to call him.

So he wanted to, we were trying to figure out where to go and he's like, Oh, well, I wanted to check out this David Lynch bar.

It's this, it's a bar that's associated with the Hollywood Theater out here and it's got a David Lynch theme.

So we go there and it happened to be closed.

I guess it's just only open certain nights.

Surprising for a bar.

Anyway, we decided to pivot to a different place that we were going to go to called Cult Classics.

And Dan, I sent you a picture from Cult Classics.

And this is a Avhs bar like the, it's all about, you know, I, the these weird cult classics.

And I would also say that using the word the, the term cult classics is a little loose considering the fact that when we walked in, first of all, I, you would have loved this.

We walked in and my buddy, his name is also John.

So John said to me, who is that actor like pointing to all of the TV screens that was playing this one movie?

And I was like, oh, that's Kevin McCarthy.

And he's like, what's he been in?

I was like, well, you might remember him from The Misfits.

He had a very small role in the Misfits, but more popularly like, you know, Inner Space, UHF, like thinking about all the all the ones where he does.

I mean, he's been in five zillion things.

Right.

But like the late 80s villain phase, we totally you pretty much just ran through, Yeah.

And I and he, and then, and then he was like, I wonder what this movie is.

And I, this is a movie that I've never seen before, but I recognize the style of the puppets in it.

And I was like, oh, it looks like it's one of the Ghoulies movies.

And sure enough, it's like Ghoulies 4 Ghoulies go to school or something with Kevin McCarthy and it's absolutely bananas.

But going to in reference to the cue the winged serpent.

So as that movie ends, we notice that there's like more people like filing in there and they're all kind of turning their chairs towards where there's like the bar with like more TV screens and a AVHS tape goes in and I, the Vestron pictures logo comes up.

Your eyes just lit up.

I even, I even stopped and I was just like, oh, look at that Vestron logo.

That's so delicious.

And there was the for they played the trailer for Transylvania 65000.

Oh, OK, so that was that was what you sent me the picture of.

Yeah, I didn't know if it was actually the movie.

OK, so it was the the trailer.

Yeah, but then they they kind of like paused the tape and they made an announcement saying like, you know, this is the only copy that we were able to get our hands on.

It's maybe a little rough, but it's so good.

And and of course, everything is being played on VHS.

And it was the stuff.

And I was, you know, talking to my friend John and he was like, what's this?

And I was just like, oh, you know, Larry Cohen, really fascinating director.

And this has Michael Moriarty in it, who he also worked with on this movie called Cue the Winged Serpent, which is Michael Moriarty is doing just like some incredible things that like you've never thought an actor would ever think to do.

And he was talking about how he knows Michael Moriarty really well from Law and Order, right?

And I was just like, so you're going to appreciate his work so much more and, and not just the stuff, but like, I was like, you got to watch Q the winged clip.

And so, yeah.

And, and that was one where I remember when we, when I watched it for the podcast, I, I watched it the very next day just because I wanted to like make sure that I was like, I'm not dreaming the inspired movie, right?

And then I watched it again with like a group of friends and it was so good.

Yeah, I remember that when I had to like, I keep going back and I keep going back by.

Wait a second.

What?

Wait, what did I, how is who is where did they come from?

What's happening here?

Yeah.

Yeah, that.

I mean, yeah, so, so many fun ones.

And I, I mean, we've, we've really, you know, run the gamut like we, you know, cue the winged serpent.

We've got, you know, on, on this episode where, you know, looking at kind of, you know, more 80s family movie.

I think this would be more of the type of movie.

I know we we had that list when we when we first started and I I imagine this one must be pretty high up on that list.

That's a really good question and I'm actually that would have.

Come up for us to to cover.

Yeah, movie list for podcast is is what it's called and we haven't even like looked at this one in a while.

There's still things on there we haven't there's.

Things on there not on Dan.

It's not on the list.

Is it not anywhere on the list?

Wow.

No, isn't that shocking?

I'm I am surprised.

I am, I am surprised.

So yeah.

Anyway, anything else you wanted to to share just kind of like in commemoration?

Of well, just in to go with what you're saying, like, yes, we really have, you know, run the gamut for the types of movies that we've covered.

When when we start to talk about what we're covering on our next episode, it'll be like, yeah, but.

That was the end of that thought that I didn't finish.

Right, I know, I know, but I will get to that one at the end of the episode or just read the episode show notes and you'll see exactly what it is.

But I we've covered so many things from, you know, the history of cinema, I mean, Gabriel over the White House, but we also covered like, you know, the history of like Jekyll and Hyde movies, right?

Yeah.

And, you know, going back to the early days of cinema, the silence and.

Yeah.

And there's been.

And we did.

We did the.

Gold Rush.

We did the gold rush, yeah.

So that was so that was part of our last season.

It was so we've we've done silent films.

We have not yet done a documentary.

Well, we kind of did with F for fake.

Right, yeah, I was going to say I feel like I I, I feel like we've done something documentary.

So F for fake and maybe the, you know, in the documentary form kind of the the the closest.

It's, it's maybe the closest we've come to doing a documentary, but that's a little tricky to cover when we're doing a, you know, a show about movie legacies and continuing the movie's legacy, right?

Documentary, something that's about, you know, real people.

It's a little bit harder to kind of do something new with.

Though I would I would suggest.

Different.

Yeah, we do.

And I, I it's not ruled out because we there are examples of those documentaries that have been turned into narratives.

I think of Grey Gardens as one The Eyes of Tammy Faye or which was a documentary that was then turned into a narrative film and then a musical.

Oh, is that a musical, too?

Yeah, I didn't know that.

Yeah.

Yeah.

There's there's also different ways that you can take history and turn it on its side.

And that's kind of what Tarantino had been doing with, you know, World War 2 and then also the the Manson family.

Yeah.

So it's, it's just proving that it's like, oh, it can be done.

I mean, if you're Quentin Tarantino, but.

Well, yeah, I mean, and, you know, so there are, there are certainly, you know, documentaries.

I know we've both seen that.

You know, just like sometimes we come away from these movies saying, well, the thing that I would want to see would be a documentary about this actual topic.

You know, sometimes it goes the opposite way where it's it's like, wow, a narrative about this would be fantastic, right?

Yeah.

Yeah, Totally.

Yeah.

So.

So before we get into.

Yeah.

You've got something on your mind.

So I'm gonna I'm gonna segue as I'm gonna segue as into it via family history.

So I, John and I are brothers.

And so some shared history there that we'll get into.

But in in talking about, because sometimes we talk about these movies and sometimes we say like, well, the best thing to do would be to put this back in a theater so people could see it on the big screen.

And when in, in, as soon as I realized like, oh, the Jaws 50th anniversary is coming up, I started looking.

I was like, when are they going to put this back out in the theaters?

Like July didn't happen July 4th and then saw OK, it's like Labor Day weekend is going to be the Jaws 50th anniversary.

And I'm, and I'm like, OK, one way or the other, I'm going to get to see this.

And you know, I've got young kids and work and stuff.

So it's not, you know, I can't just go to, to any movie showing I want to go to.

And if I want to wait until my kids are asleep, I'm going to go to a movie and then fall asleep during it.

So I, I, I was desperate and was like, I'm going to go see, I'm going to experience a Jaws in the theater in some way, shape or form.

And the only showing that really worked for my schedule and I was really confused because I was looking at the different theaters in the showings and like there was going to be an IMAX at a time that was going to work for me.

And then when I went on to buy the like tickets a couple of days later, it it was, I don't think it was sold out.

I think it was just like they, they were like, no, we're going to use that for an IMAX showing of some other movie really.

Or I don't know, like it was on there and then it wasn't this is on on Fandango.

So anyway, I ended.

Up is Fandango, your preferred movie?

Showtime look up service.

Well it depends if I'm if it's not just a theatre where I would go to their website.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Or.

Yeah, so if it's a theatre that is like that's how they do their their show times, it's it's Fandango.

So I ended up going to the four DX version of Jaws and I will I will say this, nothing will make you realize how perfectly made Jaws is than when you are sitting in the 40X showing and you are like I don't need all of this shit because the movie does it just fine.

Like it is actually scarier if the seat doesn't move.

And you know what?

The silence is really important.

So the sound of the friggin fans turning on is a hassle.

And I kept reminding myself I was like, this is your only opportunity.

And if you didn't go see this, you'd be kicking yourself again until like the next time you have another chance.

And and I was like, all right, look for the cool stuff.

Like I'm like, I've seen Jaws before, not in the theatre, but and of course, like it's the 3D transfer, which is, which was, I mean, you know, like they did a good job.

It's just all entirely unnecessary and what it reminded me of.

And here's where I'm going to segue because to talk about Harry and the Hendersons, we have to go back to the summer of 1987 and we have to go to Universal Studios.

And watching Jaws in four DX reminded me of when we went to Universal Studios in the summer of 1987.

And we did the back lot tram ride and and had the part where Jaws was in the water and pulls the dock off from it and the tram kind of rattles and everything that for about two hours.

His jaws in 40X And like, look, there are like you could still appreciate like that awesome shot of Quint when he's standing down at the at the end and just with his with his back up and he's like center of the frame.

You know, the the shots of like, you know, like that close up of, of Brody as he's looking out in the one he sees, you know, the Alex Kentner attack.

And also just like being in the theatre at that moment when like you first see Alex Kentner coming out of the water.

And yeah, you know, the mother saying Alex Kentner, you, you know, come back here.

And so there's still that like that excitement and that familiarity of it.

But, you know, if anyone's ever considering it, I really advise against it.

I I find.

I, I, I really, really wanted to find actually another time where I could just go to a theatre with a like big ass screen like either an IMAX or just like this the the SIF Seattle International Film Festival downtown took over the Seattle Cinerama.

So.

Like.

That's a tremendous screen That would that that would have been awesome.

But like just the the showtimes were not like, I'm sorry, a three o'clock showing doesn't work when I have to pick up my kid at 4:00.

Yeah, yeah, totally.

Yeah.

So anyway, but it reminded me, you know, being in that tram, and I remember in the tram they had all like when you looked up in the tram, they had all the like the ads for the big like Universal Night, summer 1987 movies.

And yeah, Harry and the Hendersons was right up there.

That's right.

Yeah, sure.

It would have been, yeah.

And there was probably, I was trying to remember if there was any like Harry and the Hendersons stuff like if they had like a model of like, did they have a model of of like one of the cost?

Did they have like one of the costumes?

You know, I, I'm, I was, I was too young to to remember if it wasn't caught on camera and then there's no way I'm remembering.

Right.

Yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

The just to kind of go back to the jaws of it all.

I feel like with that one, it's like, you don't need to do all of this stuff.

Like, I mean, you, you, you exactly said that, but it's just like, you're going to sell tickets to this.

You don't need to like make it a whole thing.

And it reminds me a lot of the most recent like controversy with the Wizard of Oz at the sphere where they use AI to like recreate things and to like fill out the, you know, the sphere itself.

And it's like, Oh, you've ruined this.

Like you've, you've taken this thing that's great waiting.

You've, I don't know, tarnished it in a way.

And so for, for Jaws, Yeah, how how dare you shake a seed and spray water and blow air and all that kind of stuff like.

I mean, it was like works the only other movie I've seen in 40 X was Inside out too.

And like that was fine.

It was fine for that also because I'd never seen inside out too before and also it didn't take away from it at all.

And I'm like, this is actually taking away from the experience.

You know, I've never seen anything in four DX, but I've seen things with like the rumble seat and the only thing actually only one thing I've seen at the rumble seat and it was the movie twisters And I and I figured, you know what, this movie probably sucks and I may as well do the thing where it's ridiculous because I don't need, I don't know, something to be kind of left alone when it's this movie.

Well, right, yeah, it doesn't it right.

Like for a movie like that and and like it, it doesn't matter.

And like that would have been fine in 40 X so but it yeah, it's really unnecessary.

And they really shouldn't be doing that with movies that have such a legacy that they're being put out in theaters in wide release on their 50th anniversaries.

Like what?

Like what's X?

The Godfather?

4DX?

No, even Francis Ford Coppola is not that crazy.

Yeah, yeah.

No, totally.

And I mean, I mean, I guess it's 38th anniversary for Harry and the Hendersons.

Do you have any recollection of seeing that for the first time?

I would have been VHS, probably.

I imagine that would have been an early like, you know, Blockbuster rental.

Sure.

Yeah, I, I can.

Yeah.

I mean, I feel like it was always something that I just always seen.

I mean, 'cause I was 4 when it came out.

So it's like, you know, as far as I knew, it just kind of always, always existed.

And I'm sure that I saw it pretty early on and it's, it's a home theater release.

And yeah.

And The thing is, like, I don't remember seeing it a lot when I was a kid, but when I recently re watched it for this episode, I remembered plenty about it.

So much of it felt very familiar.

But yeah, and I had a really good time watching it, I'll tell you that much.

What?

What was the experience like as a Seattle resident watching it?

Oh, boy.

Well.

First of all, as a, as a Seattle transplant and much less a Seattle transplant from the New York area.

I, I've had this theory for for a long time since moving here that it explains a lot of the Seattle driving is the sense that at any moment Bigfoot could just run out into the road.

So like random, because I, we first moved here.

I'm like, why are people are just randomly applied?

Why are you applying your brakes so randomly?

And why are you, you're driving so skittishly and then, oh, that's right, because they saw this movie and Oh yeah, like Bigfoot could just run out in the middle.

Even if you're not this movie.

Even if you're not driving in whatever back Rd.

like backwood roads that they drive in in this when they hit Bigfoot.

But yeah it it.

So as a Seattleite, that was my experience also, you know, seeing like the one part where there's a lot of traffic on the road and I looked at it and I was just like, well, of course, 'cause they live up there.

Oh yeah, absolutely.

Yeah.

During the part where they're like going South on I-5, it's just like, Oh yeah, I've been stuck in that traffic.

Right.

And it's like you're coming from Wallingford, you're north of the city, like you're right by the university like that.

So I, I mean, yeah, 'cause we're watching it not.

But before living in Seattle, it was really just like, oh, OK, they chose to set this in Seattle because.

And like, you know, you know, it makes more sense when you understand things like, you know, geography.

But yeah, Bigfoot.

Lore.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

But at the time, I wasn't, you know, when, when I was 10, when this movie came out, I didn't.

I I, I I didn't essentially because there were also some Bigfoot myths around Appalachia.

In yeah, yeah, so.

Some like similar, they were like kind of the similar myths around.

So it wasn't I, I, I didn't realize that there was such a strong association between Bigfoot and I mean, the Pacific Northwest with Seattle and Washington.

Northern California?

That's definitely a big Sasquatch hotspot.

Willow Creek, right?

Notably, do you ever see the Bobcat Goldthwait?

I was just going to say, is now the time when we can shout that movie out?

Because absolutely.

I've seen that movie and it's fantastic.

It it's scary.

It is so good.

It's one that's.

Really well done.

One of the I guess you describe it as like a found footage.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

But like, really, really well done.

I'd say it would make it for a great double feature paired with Harry and like a little shot chasing situation.

Yes, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, a very different, a very different version of of a similar story.

Yeah, yeah.

Well, I.

Guess for that one is people who are are trying to like go find.

Yeah, it's.

When you go looking for trouble, you're going to find it, but if you accidentally just run into it in the road, it it, it's, you know, lovable.

Yeah, I know, I know, I know.

And I remember kind of some interesting and and fun context for this movie is how it it fits into like the the Amblin pictures, like 1987 slate of like batteries not included.

Yeah.

And Harry and the Hendersons and like that genre of the, you know, the, the, the ET variations, right?

We could.

Totally.

We could.

We could call them.

Yeah, the the, I don't know, I would say fish out of water, but some sort of Cryptid out of water.

Yeah, like mythical creature out of water, like even Gremlins kind of like fits in there.

I rewatched Gremlins too recently.

What a.

Excellent.

What a.

What a treat it it is the only It is now the only form in which I will tolerate Hulk Hogan in my media.

Oh my God, I know.

So if I, I.

Rest in something.

I even, but I thought about that well, because also, so I, I sometimes listen to this podcast called Tights and fights and they were talking about wrestlers turned actors and there was like a list.

There was I forget which publication put out like a list of like the best wrestlers turned actors.

And the argument was like Hulk Hogan didn't act Hulk Hogan just did Hulk Hogan on screen.

They didn't mention gremlins too, but I was.

Like, I mean, he's playing himself.

Well, right.

Yeah.

I mean, yeah, but it's different.

From like Suburban Commando or the nanny, right?

But it was Nanny.

Is that what it was called, Mr.

Nanny?

Mr.

Nanny Yeah, By the way, I saw some social media clips recently from Mr.

D's daughter Erica, who is a stand up comic.

And she's talking about like her experiences growing up being Mr.

D's daughter and like, you know, situations with Rowdy Roddy Piper and Hulk Hogan and stuff.

And I it's, if you can find it, you should definitely check it out.

She's very funny and tell us some pretty great stories.

That that sounds that sounds good yeah so but but that's where so Harry and the Hendersons kind of you know finds itself as as Steven Spielberg.

Steven Spielberg in 1987 release was Empire of the Sun.

So he was focused on other things and he was like, he.

Needed these other projects to keep things like, well, let's.

Let the Amblin let's let and the Amblin money keep, you know, rolling in while he's making a POW drama.

Yeah, well, so I watched the the Blu-ray for Harry and the Hendersons that featured commentary from the director William Deere, and who seems like a delight.

I I don't know much about the guy, but it seems like he.

Not the first film of his we're covering.

Oh, that's right.

What was the other one that we covered if?

Looks could kill if looks could kill.

That's right.

The Greeko Classic.

Yes, so William dear really, you know, speaks about this movie with a lot of love and tenderness and rightfully so.

I mean, it's it's it's a remembered film that's very like of its time and was talking about how like this.

The idea for this really came first as a series that he wanted to do with somebody who we mentioned on a recent episode.

Fred Gwynn.

OK, yeah.

So Fred Gwynn, I guess he had in mind to just be Sasquatch and it was going to be Bigfoot living with with a family in a in a TV series.

And I think that the story is that William Deer became kind of friendly with Steven Spielberg and just in in the turn of phrase endeared himself to to Steven Spielberg and who was just like, So what do you have going on?

And he's like, oh, you know, I've got this one project that I've been tinkering with for a few years.

And, and he's like, hey, let's, let's do it, Let's do a movie.

And so that's kind of how it came about.

And it's just like, I'm glad that it it happened the way that it did because it it carved a path for what would become a, a series, which we'll talk about later.

That probably wouldn't have been as good had it not been for the movie that preceded it, because they got to use the same costume and, you know, make up and everything that was designed by by Rick Baker.

Rick Baker, yeah.

Yeah.

So Dan, why don't you give us a little synopsis and then we'll really.

Get to that.

Here we go.

On the ride home from a camping trip, typical family, the Hendersons make an abrupt stop when they crash into a passing animal.

Upon inspection, they discover that it's none other than Sasquatch himself.

Unsure what else to do, they strap the presumed dead missing link to the roof of their car and return to their Seattle home to regroup.

After returning home and turning in for the night, they discovered that the monster has sprung back to life and immediately has begun to explore the Hendersons home in search of food and a proper nest.

Over the course of the following day, the family becomes endeared to the beast, but in a desperate attempt to return home, he sneaks through the shadows of Seattle but is frightened by this unknown and seemingly hostile world.

Having grown quite fond of the Sasquatch, the Hendersons, who now refer to him as Harry, make attempts to track him down and bring him back to safety, but also discover that he is being hunted by Jacques Lafleur, who will stop at nothing to track down and kill Harry for sport.

As George Henderson, the patriarch of the family, we have John Lithgow as.

Dan, I, I I have to correct you every single time.

John Lithgow.

John Lithgow Yes, I sorry.

Apology.

We've become programmed to to say Lithgow, but I've heard them in interviews say that it's Lithgow.

I believe that a nickname of his was Gogo because.

Of it, of course it was all right.

That's how it makes me think of it.

John Lithgow.

It's that damn W at the end.

Like bow, Like bow tie?

Oh, OK.

All right.

That'll work.

Thank you.

Bow like take a bow.

As his, you know as as his ever suffering wife Nancy, we have Melinda Dillon a.

Who's great?

I love Melinda.

Spielberg veteran, close Encounters of of the Third Kind Oscar nominee for that.

And I also think she was nominated for The Prince of Tides a few years after this.

Yeah, yeah.

Rounding out the Henderson family, we have Margaret Langric as Sarah Henderson and Joshua Bradoy as Ernie Henderson.

He's great.

And of course, well, and as the 5th Henderson, Harry, Kevin, Peter Hall, who had a, who had a, pardon the pun, big summer of 1987.

Has he also played Predator?

Yeah, he played the title role in two of these big summer movies, Predator and Harry and the Andersons.

And, and also it's like, you know, you could look at it and just on paper, it's like, OK, well, this guy's, you know, tall and whatever.

But also, it's like he put so much into those characters, like he really brought them to life in a fascinating way, and to such different characters, too.

Because with both characters, you can really think of a lot of examples where just the like little bits of physicality sell so much about that.

Like with the Predator, like the like the head movements with Harry, there's so much of they're like there's almost like the shrug of like he.

Yeah.

There's off Yeah, right.

Is this like he's just kind of this big lovable oaf and and I mean, yeah, like a lot of credit goes to Rick Baker and his, you know, team and their design, but yeah, no.

Kevin Bieder, Hall man and and do you?

Know with his posture, it's it's great.

You know who he was married to?

Who?

Let me make make sure I I.

Get Do you know who he was married to?

I.

Do know who he was married to?

So his he was married to, I'm sorry.

So Elena Reed, who was on 227 and Sesame Street, she played Gordon's sister on Sesame Street.

Susie.

Yeah, that's.

Awesome.

Yeah, so, so yes, so.

We're a couple.

Yeah, totally, totally.

We've got some other like, renowned character actors in the cast.

First of all, Don Amici.

Don Amici, so good.

Doctor Wallace Wrightwood.

He's such he, he's, he's.

Better than our cocoon.

Episode.

Oh Oh yeah, and probably Trading Places.

Oh yeah, Trading places, of course, yeah.

A long way back 300 episodes, man, it's hard to remember that as George Henderson senior M Emmett Walsh, who we talked about on the what we did the jerk and.

Yeah, just two episodes ago.

And you know Dan, OK, you just dropped Kevin Peter Hall trivia.

Here's some M Emmett Walsh trivia.

Do you know who who he was college roommates with?

Oh.

Who he was, I'll give you a clue.

He's looking over your shoulder.

Devane.

William Devane.

Wow.

MMM Walsh College Roommates with William Devane.

That's what I want.

That's my spin off.

I want to play.

That's just about the conversations that MMM Walsh and William Devane had.

Like their their conversations about.

Acting so.

So yeah.

MMM.

Walsh plays John, Lith goes Dad.

Yeah, David Suchet as Jacques Lafleur.

AKA Hercule Poirot.

Uh huh, Uh huh.

Yeah, he's my Poirot.

He's your know about you?

Yeah.

My Poirot, I was.

I was gonna say what?

Albert Fenney of murder.

On everything is a good one.

Yeah, all due respect to get with Piranha, I love him but but like the.

BBC series like that's I remember watching that so much and he is such a delightful Poirot.

But I to see him in this as just like the the sleazy Lafleur who's just the hunter who's just out for, you know, a trophy kill.

Yeah, yeah, he he, he does a great, he does a great job in this.

And yeah, we can't leave out Laney Kazan.

Yeah, totally.

She's fun.

Irene.

She's silly.

The neighbor the.

Classic nosy next door neighbor.

It really does have all the makings of a sitcom.

Doesn't.

It it really does like so much fun.

Edie Mcclurg?

Not available?

Probably, Maybe not.

Edie Mcclurg Well, I I feel like you're, you're getting a different type of zany neighbor with Eddie McClure.

I guess any McClure gives a Midwest zany neighbor, not that Laney Kazan necessarily screams Seattle.

No, Lady Laney Kazan is also a transplant.

She's not a native to the PNW.

No, no, no.

It's a Microsoft hire there.

Sure, if they're north of the city.

And it was funny.

I almost I was, I was thinking about it.

You mentioned in in the synopsis.

I I I was tempted to go off off script because talking about how Harry is frightened by this unknown and seemingly hostile world is he's encountering the Seattle Freeze.

Oh, the Seattle Freeze.

That's the the personality.

Yeah, well, it's just personality type.

It's kind of like the like newcomers will not be welcomed with open arms.

They'll be greeted with standoffish curiosity.

Oh, gotcha, gotcha.

Yeah, yeah.

So anyway, yeah.

And that's that pretty much rounds rounds out the cast here.

Yeah, it's, it's such a fun movie.

The I mean, obviously the makeup and the, and the costumes are incredible.

The, the look of Harry, like it wouldn't work if not for Rick Baker's designs and Kevin, Peter Hall's physicality.

And, you know, those are his eyes in there.

So it's like, you know, the, the looks that he gives.

Yeah.

Despite having to kind of act through this costume, it really, you know, all works together and it's so fun.

And I it's such a, a, a great example of like A twist on a monster movie where you just have like, you know, it's the ET of it all, but.

Like the people are the monsters, yeah.

The people are the.

Monsters.

Yeah.

No, it's Harry's totally cuter than ET.

Absolutely.

Yeah.

And.

And John Lithgow much cuter than Elliot.

You know he's not cuter than Elliot is, Ernie.

Hey, you know what?

Ernie is doing his best.

Ernie, Ernie, such a Yeah, well, and, you know, Snapper in watching this movie, so like Ernie.

So George is so George's father owns a sporting goods store and very alpha male hunter.

And George in when we meet him, he's very much like carrying out that legacy of being the alpha male hunter.

And his son is totally into it.

And you know, you remember you're like, this is 1987.

This is when there was like the Rambo cartoon on TV and, and, and all that.

And it was, you know, just that, like 80s machismo.

So at the beginning of the movie.

And then as we saw in big business, they were selling Rambo toys at toy stores.

This is true.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Lunch box.

I had a Rambo lunch box.

Yeah, you did.

But they they.

So when I watched the movie and the first time I I thought about that aspect, it was more of a OK, well, just remember like, you know, that's and like they're growing up at the Pacific Northwest.

It's a little bit more of the culture and the more I watched it and maybe this was just adult me looking for something more, but I don't think so.

I saw that like is I was like, is this movie going for satire?

And in thinking about in thinking about, because it it all turn, it turns around.

It all like turns around.

You find out that George really has this like sensitive artist's soul and and like Ernie and it, you know, turns his experience with Harry, you know, he's more sensitive to to that and like, you know, human life at at the end.

But I was also, you know, I thought about just the casting of of John Lithgow, who not too long before this was nominated for an Academy Award for, you know, playing it a transgender woman.

And I mean, and even in the world according to Garp, you know, that character, there is still a play on, you know, the traditional ideas of masculinity, because Roberta is her name was previously a professional football player in the world according to Garp, who transitions, you know, is a woman.

And I it even, I even I even thought about it and I was like, are they even like kind of, you know, using Lithgow as kind of a like a a doorway as somebody who we've already seen because he's and he also handled like at that point he had done some like, you know, Brian De Palma, you know, like Hitman, like blow out right where he was, you know, kind of, you know, chilling and and terrifying.

So yeah.

And he even after this did plenty of villain roles.

Oh yeah.

What year was Raising Kane?

Raising Kane was 92.

That was 92.

Ricochet was 92.

Cliff Ricochet 3.

That was his British accent villain.

Oh my God.

I I love ricochet so much.

Right.

And he's so great.

I love ricochet.

Great movie yeah, so I and and thinking about, you know, the takes on it and how this movie doesn't this this movie is not in favour of gun toting, hunting, killing animals.

It's very much against that.

And for, you know, for a family film that does lean on tropes and, yeah, certain stereotypes that like, don't get me wrong, the gender roles are still very firmly in in place.

Yeah, yeah, the daughter just cares about her flowers.

Yeah, yeah, By the way, I looked her up.

I looked up.

So Maggie Langrig, she goes by Maggie Langrig now.

She's an author.

She's written like a lot of like self help books.

She has her own like publishing.

Monster within my the monster within my experience living with the Sasquatch.

The Bigfoot in me, but yes, I was like she's.

Got Bigfoot?

This whole, you know, publishing company and everything and like, you know, 'cause she really didn't do much more.

Joshua Rodoy after this, it was like Flatliners.

I think he's got.

Oh, Flatliners.

Billy Mahoney.

Yeah.

Billy Mahoney.

Torments keeper Sutherland in flatliners.

We did flatliners.

We've done totally have done flatliners.

Joel I or Joel Schumacher?

Oh yeah, you know, that's I, I was going to say this before, but I and I, I love our like year long seasons, but our little special months were fun because we just got so wacky with them.

Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, so, but yeah, so I guess watching, I don't know.

What was your experience watching it now?

When was the last, well, do you remember seeing this?

Like when was the last time you remember?

Watching I don't it's been a really long time, probably since, oh, the late 80s, early 90s.

And sorry, just to kind of add add to that point and just to say like, well, of course this is what they're doing.

There's the scene when Harry's watching TV.

And of course, the film on TV is, I think, bedtime for Bonzo with Ronald Reagan, who was president at the time.

And and you like big and like Harry's like laughing and like throwing the cake at when you see Reagan on the screen.

So like they're, they're, they're making fun of Reagan.

Yeah, I'm, I think that it's pretty clear that there's a, you know, guns versus art, you know, allegory, essentially violence versus art.

Considering that John Lithgow is like, he's always just wanted to be an artist.

He's always aspired to be an artist.

And then after the events, the movie that he like finally can explore that.

I don't know how they're affording to live in that house in Seattle.

I mean, I would say on an artist's salary, but also on a just employee at a sporting goods stores salary.

But who?

Knows, I mean in 1987 it might have been not today, but.

That that's for damn sure, yeah.

So I would say also to kind of speak again about the tropes that you were talking about.

This movie does have a trope that I love, which is, you know, a character walking up to a a like a electronic store that just has TV's that are playing all the same thing.

That's that's a wonderful moment.

But the way that it's done in this movie I think is really fun because.

Great.

Yeah.

It's, it's the way that he, Harry sees George, who has been on the news defending the, you know, all of defending Harry amidst all of these Bigfoot sightings where everyone's talking about how he's this monster and he's calling people out.

I'm like, you know what?

I bet that didn't happen at all the way that you're saying it.

And I, I will say though, that the, the one thing that's kind of ridiculous about it.

Well, I mean, aside from the fact that it is existing at all, the news keeps on just playing the same clip over and over again because Harry's just watching that clip over and over again.

And so I don't know, it's, it was seemed pretty silly to me, but it was, you know, with William Dear's commentary track, it was really fun listening to him talk about it where, you know, I, it was like something that I had thought, but I wasn't, it wasn't like confirmed for me.

But then William Dear was saying like, you know, the intention is like he thinks George is like in the TV.

And then when 1 unplugs and turns off, he like grabs another one and tries to like get him out of it and everything.

And it's like, yeah, OK, I I get that that makes sense.

But that is a trope that I love the the story.

That's like playing all the TV's with like the relevant thing going on at the same time.

That's.

So great.

And you know, it makes me think because of course, like, you know, that's kind of a a thing a time gone by of that, you know, you don't see movies set in 2025 that have that trope in it.

So it's like I wonder when they I'm like, what would be the what's like the last one, like the most recent, like movie set in present day.

Interesting.

Maybe ricochet.

I don't like is.

Well.

Is there a storefront TV thing in in Ricochet where you see like the news about him?

There is in another another Denzel Washington action movie, and that would be virtuosity in 96.5.

And so was it 95?

Yeah, 95?

Yeah, 95.

It's less.

It's more of like Russell Crowe walks into an electronic store and all the TV's are playing the thing, so it's not like looking through the window at it.

Right.

No, no, no.

I feel like the electronic store thing is different.

That's where it's like the electron and they do this with the one in front of the store sometimes.

But feel like the electronic store 1 is like, oh, I'm on the camera, right.

Like from the Brady Bunch movie.

Yeah, I oh, geez.

I yeah, I'd love to kind.

Of, I mean, yeah, go.

Through and try to find it.

Maybe that's our next series is all movies that have somebody walking up to a store where there's a bunch of TV's.

Storefront TV scenes.

How do you figure that one out?

There's.

Probably a letterbox lists out there somewhere.

Of course there is.

Yeah, of course.

Yeah.

If you know of 1, e-mail us Ruin child.

That's pot@gmail.com.

We'd love to see that list.

But yeah, the, the movie itself, I think is just like, it's a lot of fun.

I I feel like the Don Amici character is really lovely because it's the person who's, you know, always been fascinated by by Bigfoot and has kind of become like a laughingstock and kind of like, I don't know, has changed his whole life and kind of lost his family because of his passion for uncovering the truth about Sasquatch.

And also a believer that Sasquatch is not a monster, right.

And so to kind of bring him him in to the story is really is really lovely.

And you know, the movie could exist without that character, but the fact that it includes it makes it really.

You need the sign.

You need like the scientist.

You need someone with a PHPHD.

Yeah, but he's not a scientist.

He's just an enthusiast.

I mean, didn't he like, write?

Is he?

Well, yeah, he's that's true.

What is he a doctor of?

Doctor of Bigfoot Anomic.

Doctor Bigfoot.

Not Doctor Bigfoot, but that's that's a good oh boy, maybe that's a good sequel there.

Yeah, I know.

It's a, it's a.

It's really fun.

And just to kind of go into a little bit about like the continuing legacy, you know, I did watch the first three, the first 3 episodes of the TV series, then somebody put them on YouTube.

Dan, have you ever do you have any recollection of watching the show?

I think I might not for.

Three seasons, which is admirable.

I feel like it was syndicated.

Something tells me if I remember correctly it was one of those like it was on the USA network or something where we lived.

So I, I, I think I I remember watching some it with Bruce Davison.

Willard himself.

Willard Davison.

Yeah, yeah, no stranger to furry creatures.

Oh, which by the way, is.

Kevin Peter Hall reprising the role.

You know, up until his death and then it was taken over by other actors.

Another It would have been ironic if it was Jean-Claude Van Damme who was the original Predator.

Well, yeah, who's?

Like for like 6 a day, yeah.

Oh so another another Amblin trope?

Specific ambling trope.

Someone getting hit by a car and then forming an attachment to the people that hit them from Back to the Future.

Oh, OK, yeah.

It's a little.

Different.

It's a little, it's a little different so.

But hey, if we're talking Crispin Glover, another Willard himself.

Oh, so.

Yeah, so there's there.

And so the the series.

It's it's very, you know, it's sitcom and it's like most basic form laugh track and everything.

And it's it's all the like, OK, he's going to just live in our house now.

And what are the crazy antics about trying to hide?

You know, it's an Alf kind of a thing, right?

And Oh yeah.

But then there's like all of these other strange things where it's like, you know, because it's set in Seattle.

You have like, you know, this episode features guest star whatever, whoever from like the Seattle SuperSonics, you know, and they bring in all of the like, you know, Seattle people that I mean, there's no Frasier crossover, but I don't know if Cheers, I don't know.

He was still in Boston at the time.

I think that that was going on.

So that was before he was in Seattle.

Right.

But like some like like Shawn Kemp or.

Something like that, yeah.

Probably somebody that was a little bit easier to get, so I don't know.

But it was a it was fun and it was, it was totally fine.

And of course they have the same costumes and everything.

And Kevin, Peter Hall is great.

And there's a Leon Redbone song.

Your Feet's too big is the theme song.

I love you, I love you, even if your feet's too big.

It's so silly.

But it's, you know, very much that like Randy Newman.

'S I was just going to.

I was.

Kind of a thing I was.

Hearing it in my head and I'm living.

I'm like, what I'm hearing is turning into a Randy Newman.

I love you good.

Your feet's too big.

That's exactly what it sounds like.

That's that's exactly it.

And of course you have like the precocious kid, you have the zany neighbor next door.

It's different kind of zany neighbor next door.

Right.

But yeah, who's I'm like, that's what I want to know.

Like who's the zany neighbor next door?

You know, probably nobody that you would recognize.

I think in the first season it was like a reporter and then it was like something else.

In like the second season.

I don't know.

I but the show itself, it's, you know, it's predictable.

It's exactly what it should be.

A few people who directed episodes.

First of all, Bruce Davison directed a few episodes, but also I, Scott Baio directed a few episodes.

Tony Dow of Leave It to Be Wally a few episodes.

Wally Cleaver.

Yeah, I see.

Yeah, I also see.

I see Richard Klein, Larry from from Three's Company, James Widows of of the first season of Charles in Charge and National Lampoon's Animal House.

Yes, that's right.

I like him.

Yeah.

Oh, yeah.

I like, I always like James, love him in Animal House.

He's he's great.

I was always a Pembrokes guy for Charles, Totally I was.

I was never a Powell's guy.

Pembrokes for life I'm so glad and felt alone all this time oh, and by and Speaking of syndicated shows that were on various networks, Donna Pascal of Saturday Night fever, but also of the series out of this world.

She directed an episode it feel like loving the.

Same set from out of this world, like there's you could probably picture exactly what it actually they lived in this like very like Pacific Northwesty house that had like this like lofted office situation, but it was it looked like a cabin, but like a a high end cabin kind of a thing.

They really leaned into the Pacific Northwest of it all.

Yeah.

Yeah, but it's a it's, it's an entirely watchable, you know, show the episodes are they, they breeze right by and you, you know exactly what to expect from it.

But of course, like every 4 episodes, Harry feels isolated and tries to run away.

And then they find a way to bring him back.

Well that's why I'm looking at the episode listing in like episode 3 is like Harry goes home.

Sorry, that's episode 4.

Yeah, Harry goes on Part 1.

Sorry.

And what's interesting is that it actually shows the broadcast stations here.

So New York ASO was on Channel 5 in New York WMYW.

OK.

Which which totally makes sense, especially for that time.

That was before it became Fox.

Yeah.

So, yeah, that makes that makes sense.

Yeah.

So that that show clearly is a an obvious continuing of of the legacy.

But William dear did mention that if he if there was ever a sequel, he would want Harry to speak.

Which of course, at the end of the movie, Harry does speak and it makes sense.

I feel like the more you hear him speak, the worse things could get.

But for him to say like one thing is kind of cool.

It's very much a Rise of the Planet of the Apes situation.

Right.

Yeah, yeah.

No, no, yeah.

And also it's like if it was to be done again now, you wouldn't you wouldn't likely have, you know, the great costumes, you would have some sort of CGI thing and it wouldn't feel wouldn't feel right.

But Dan Oh, there's one other thing I wanted to mention.

So on the, the YouTube, the first 3 episodes video that I watched, it was, you know, taped off of television and they didn't include commercials.

But like right at the at the end credits, there would be kind of like the announcer advertising something else that was going on.

And right at the end of the first episode, guess what movie they were promoting that they were going to be showing like next.

It's one that we've done OK, and it's one that we would not likely have seen had it not been for this podcast.

Oh geez.

OK.

It was our second season of the show.

I what is that?

Our first season was like 3 years.

Well.

The first season was like miscellaneous.

Second season was our United States.

OK, so it was in our United States.

I'm I'm I'm trying, I'm not cheating.

I'm not looking at at the archive.

So as in our United States and it would have been released before 1991, probably before 1990, yes, if it was on a syndicated, especially if it was on like not a major network, it would not have been its broadcast premiere.

So I'm thinking this is let's say they.

Probably earlier, but let's say they probably just got it for.

Cheap earlier than the 80s.

If I remember correctly.

OK, All right.

OK.

And they just they and they got it for OK.

I don't know why I was going to guess in Nashville, it does not seem like it would be the right answer.

Earlier than Nashville.

All right.

Oh, geez.

OK, the the misfits or?

No, no, no.

You're, you're warm in the sense that you're in the right kind of pocket.

You're close in the in the alphabet of the of the order, not not super close.

But in the in the it's in the alphabet of it.

Well, you know that was on about A and it's.

Not Z, it's somewhere in the middle.

Right, right.

OK, shoot, what do we do for Montana?

Oh, we did 2 for Montana, but it wouldn't be either of those.

Yeah, I will say I it it's very fitting that they would be showing this on network television, considering the director and the star.

Is is it?

Mr.

Smith goes to Washington.

No.

No network, I don't know.

No, we didn't do network in that season.

And it's cold Turkey.

Oh Bah, yeah, totally would not have watched that movie if it wasn't for this podcast.

But but I mean, like, it's a treat.

It was a hidden gem.

Absolutely a hidden.

Gem Yeah, I when when they were even describing like coming up next, like Dick Van Dyke plays, you know this.

And I didn't.

It didn't even occur to me that it was cold Turkey until the very last line of it was just like if they all quit smoking and it was a cold Turkey.

Sure enough.

What a what a wild movie that was.

Yeah, it sure was.

Another one that I believe could be looked at as a better satire about like, you know, guns and.

Oh yeah?

Well, yeah, yeah, you could use the cigarettes.

Could be metaphorical.

Yeah.

For sure, for sure.

So anyway, Dan, please tell me, what would you do given the opportunity to revisit Harry and the Hendersons?

Well, let's see, I was thinking about just a couple of different things and you know, I'm I'm not excited about the idea for a straight up remake, but if you were going to do a straight up remake and still set it in Seattle, what I think it would be a what I think it would be a good opportunity for.

So like something that I'm seeing more of, and this is more just in series, you know, like different streaming series, not necessarily ones that I watch, but like, you know, my, my wife will be watching something and I'll be like, oh, OK, that's cool.

And it's it's kind of representation without the representation being the point of it.

And just like, yes, this is a family with with two moms, This is a like and it's just and it, you know, not presented as like, oh, oh, but more it's just this, this is what it is.

And not like, you know, making that any point of it.

So I was like, you could just do a remake of Harry and the Hendersons, but have that family, you know, be more representative of, you know, contemporary identities And, but, but also not have it necessarily be about that 'cause I feel like that type of representation is really important where, you know, that's not the, the purpose of, of doing it.

But also I don't know that there's a purpose in remaking it set in present day.

So I was thinking of a remake set around the time that the term Bigfoot was first coined in 1958.

And thinking about and thinking about what if you remade it then?

Now, of course, that took me to a lot of other movies and that would have that kind of similar meaning.

It made me think a lot about Edward Scissorhands.

Yeah, right.

Like what happens when your typical family at a time when societal standards were so, so, so crucial for people to stand by, you know, to bring in a, you know, to, to have a, you know, Sasquatch and think I was, I was like, well, that would be an interesting take to, to do it.

Then again, it's like Iron Giant.

I was like, I it was like kind of sounding like, Oh, OK, well, this would kind of turn out to be like an iron Giant Edward Scissorhands, like Pleasantville type thing.

And I don't know if that's interesting.

Now I well, it's, it's just like it's been done and it's been done really well.

All those movies that I just named are really good.

So I don't know if we need to like throw Sasquatch in into the mix here.

I was doing just a little reading on some like Sasquatch history and myths and found this story called A Story of the Ape Canyon incident.

And this let me let me read this to you from Wikipedia.

On July 16th, 1924, an article in The Oregonian made national news when a story was published describing a conflict between a group of gold prospectors and a group of quote UN quote ape men in a gorge near Mount Saint Helens.

The prospectors reported encountering quote UN quote gorilla men near their remote cabin.

Anyway, it was to go.

It was investigated eventually and they like, it sounded like it was a fabrication or just like these guys were hallucinating or or whatever.

But like play like if we play into the what if of it.

Right.

It sounds like that would be an interesting and, you know, thinking about kind of the tone of it and, you know, I thought a little bit about like Ravenous, Yeah.

And other, you know, kind of other, you know, similarly is set, you know, movies that are really about like, you know, what is in the wilderness surrounding you and what happens when the wilderness is no longer surrounding you, Right.

So I, I don't know, I was, I was, I was thinking about that and like, I don't know, that would be like kind of an interesting.

I mean, you wouldn't do found footage because who would be right?

You have journal entries, I guess, and like some photographs.

But you know that I I was, I was like, you know, that kind of sounds like that.

That would be that would be fun.

But otherwise I really don't don't have any, you know, any, anything, anything else like, you know, Bigfoot's been, you know, repeated and used in lots of other movies.

You we mentioned Will Short Creek, there's the Sam Elliott movie, the the man who killed Bigfoot and Hitler or whatever.

And I watched it a while ago, so I mean there's no lack of Bigfoot slash Sasquatch related.

Right.

No, no, no, no.

Films, but I I do think that maybe rather than looking forward, but like going into the past and showing like like encounters with more like, you know, frontier, you know, settlers.

Yeah, maybe something about the person who took that, like iconic.

Like is that Bigfoot footage that blurry?

Oh, the yeah, yeah, that that thing.

So yeah, like the back story on that 'cause that's famous.

So yeah, that would be cool.

I don't know what what's your Harry and the Hendersons take?

Well, I did also just want to add that there's one other Sasquatch, I guess, appearance in pop culture that needs to be celebrated.

And that of course is John C Reilly and Tenacious D and the pick of destiny.

Mad respect for that.

John C Reilly is an amazing Sasquatch.

So what I'm about to say, of course, is meant to be is not necessarily a a serious idea, although Hollywood, if you're listening, do this.

OK, so John Lithgow plays a very high up cardinal in the Catholic Church.

And you know what?

The Pope dies and then suddenly there's a conclave going on.

Ray finds us there.

And there's all of this, you know, lobbying and petitioning and people trying to like, you know, get up in the ranks.

And, you know, John Lithgow is, you know, kind of like coming up from behind and becoming like the front runner in this, this thing.

And ultimately it's decided that he's that it's going to be him, Although there's no, there's something known that's like a secret from his past.

But like they're, they're trying to like, you know, maybe sweep it under the rug or something and they don't, they're trying to look into it, but they can't figure out exactly what it is.

And so it's finally decided, the smoke goes up and everything.

And that's when we finally get a confrontation between Ray Fines and John Lithgow.

And that's when Ray finds is like, it looks like in 1987, you lived with somebody who doesn't appear on the census.

And we don't understand what's going on.

Can you explain it?

There's this George Hen thing that was from the news.

And that's when he explains.

Yeah, well, you know what?

I used to?

I used to live with Bigfoot.

And his name is Harry.

And, and I'm, I'm George Henderson, That is, that's the real me.

And I'm the new Pope.

And I know a Bigfoot.

That's what's up.

Harry and the Vatican.

Harry and the Vatican.

That's right.

Yeah.

I mean, where else is he going to go?

You know what, I I cannot think of a sequel idea for this that I would want to see more.

Well, of course I'm going to bring him in and.

They did the TV show and for how even for how ridiculous it is, it's still fun and it's exactly what it should be.

And I'm glad that that exists.

I wouldn't want there to be a another version of it because like we were saying before, like the purity of the, the costume and the animatronics and everything that went into the face and Kevin Peter Hall's performance, like it was really, really special and like that's what made it stand out.

I.

Mean the scene that you were talking about, when he sees George in the TV, the expression is, yeah, he's so good.

Yeah, yeah, all of the expressions when he's flying off the hood of the car.

Oh yeah, you see it for like a second.

It's amazing when he's getting pampered in the living room after he was in the dumpster and they're, you know, doing his hair and stuff.

The look on his face is just so wonderful.

And it's like, it's, it's perfect.

It's exactly what it should be.

Now, of course, you know, yeah, you could do comic books.

That'd be fun.

But what story are you going to tell that A?

Comic strip Comic strip can.

Be fun just like the the lip antics.

I mean the Hendersons.

Yeah, like that's totally comic strip material.

Like whatever, you know, 3 frames and a Harry.

Not again.

That's why I cannot do John Lithgow.

I wish.

That was a good John Lithgow.

That's pretty good.

No, it went too much and it sounded like Mayor Humdinger from Paw Patrol.

No, I'm.

Not familiar with the reference, but.

Probably which Which probably is somehow based on like the Lord Farquhar in Shrek that John Lithgow did.

Yeah, totally could be.

Well, anyway, for anybody who is listening or watching the show on YouTube or Spotify, Hey, thanks so much.

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Dan, we are wrapping up episode 300, the Perfect Game episode and I, I have to know what are we going to be doing for our next G movie as we work our way down the alphabet.

Our next G movie?

Well, there's only one way we can go 'cause after 300 episodes we've got to do Giant 1955 directed by George Stevens, starring James Dean, Rock Hudson, Elizabeth Taylor, Dennis Hopper, Mercedes Mccambridge.

Based on the novel by Edna Ferber.

Yes, yes, yes.

I'm excited to talk about it.

From Seattle to Texas.

Absolutely.

Yeah.

You know, iconic Texas films.

We didn't do it when we did our last season, All about the States, but.

We were saving it up.

We.

Up for it this time.

Yeah, all, all good.

We, we get there, we get there and, and it'll be our our second time.

We're we're talking about a James Dean film.

And Rock Hudson I.

Believe and Rock Hudson, Yes.

I don't think we've done any other Rock Hudsons aside from seconds.

Yeah, yeah.

Yeah.

So was he in?

Never mind, that was somebody else.

Well, Dan, as you are, I guess, kind of stuck in traffic going down on I-5, I wish you a good journey.

Yeah, a good journey.