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The Jerk (1979)

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I know we've only known each other for four weeks and three days, but to me it seems like 9 weeks and five days.

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This is ruined childhoods.

My name is John.

His name is Dan.

We're brothers.

We love movies.

This is our podcast.

And on this episode, we're talking about the 1979 comedy The Jerk, the story of a poor nincompoop who becomes a rich nincompoop, then loses it all.

Dan, can you name the two other Carl Reiner movies that we've covered on this podcast?

Summer.

School.

Correct one of them, and give me a moment.

Believe it or not, I did not prepare myself for such a question, though it does, it seems, perhaps like it.

So summer school and.

Oh, let me know if you want.

To he didn't.

He didn't do cold Turkey.

That was Norman Lear, right?

So, OK, so I'm, I'm just let me just, I'm running through.

So we have not done sibling rivalry, fatal instinct.

We have not done the man with two brains.

Dead men don't wear Plaid.

I don't think we've done any of the Carl Reiner Steve.

I think that today is our first Carl Reiner, Steve Martin collaboration and we have not done oh God.

So I, you know, I will take, I'll take a hint.

I'll take How often do I say that?

This movie stars a very iconic costar of this week's movie, Steve Martin.

Steve Martin costarred with the star of this movie.

So the star of this other Carl Reiner movie was also a prominent Steve Martin Co star, Correct?

OK.

All right.

And while you're thinking, I want to let our audience know that I am on the very tail end of COVID and my brain is not functioning right now.

So that kind of goes with our movie of the week, somebody whose brain maybe doesn't function properly.

But anyway, I I take it back to you, Dan, do you need, do you need another hint?

So it was.

It was Steve Martin in, but Steve Martin wasn't in it.

Steve, this is not a Steve Martin movie, OK, but there is a a very classic Steve Martin movie that is him alongside one other major actor.

Wait, you said it's not a so it is.

It is a Steve Martin movie.

No, no, no, no, no.

OK, so Carl Reiner directed this other movie just.

OK, just Carl.

Carl Reiner directed the other movie.

That's a Carl Reiner movie that we've covered on this podcast.

But the star of this movie also starred in another movie that is not directed by Carl Reiner alongside Steve Martin.

It is a very iconic Steve Martin movie.

Was it, Did we cover that one?

No.

All right, 'cause we did.

I'm like, we did Bowfinger, so I was like running through some of the Steve Martin.

This is a this is a 2 costars.

They probably had equal billing.

I mean, one of them's name had to come first, but.

So then, OK, so it was so it would be a movie starring Steve Martin and somebody else.

Keaton.

Is it Diane Keaton?

Nope.

No.

OK.

I sorry the ones I'm thinking of some, but we've covered them.

So you said we didn't cover this one, correct.

OK.

We're not talking about like Chevy.

Chase or if we did cover this one, we can blame my COVID brain for not remembering that we covered it.

OK, 'cause I keep thinking of Lily Tomlin, I keep thinking of the cover.

It is not Lily Tomlin, OK?

It is not all of me.

We did all of me and.

Well, we didn't do all of me we talked about all of me didn't.

We, I, I, I wanna say, I mean, you know, correct me if I'm, if I'm wrong and I, I don't have COVID, it would just be my poor memory.

But I do have a recollection of specifically watching it for the for the podcast.

It's likely that you watched it in preparation for an A body swap movie.

The.

Body swap.

Yeah, we didn't.

Cover it.

OK, all right.

And but you said it's not Lily Tomlin anyway, so doesn't doesn't matter.

Steve Martin, Eddie, it's not Eddie Murphy.

We talked about Bowfinger Martin Short.

No, no, no, no.

But like you're, you're closer there with Martin Short.

So it it is a Martin Short type that that we're thinking of here.

I wouldn't necessarily.

It's a Martin Short type, but it is somebody who is maybe closer Moranis it is somebody we're also we're very close there.

Common, Steve Martin Co Star.

Is Rick Moranis or was Rick and but so not Rick Moranis.

It's not Martin Short.

It's not Chevy John Candy John Candy summer rental.

Summer rental, Summer rental, fuck.

Oh sorry, Summer school, right?

Summer School and Summer Rental are the 2 Carl Reiner movies that we've covered so far.

Oh wow, totally forgot.

And also totally OK that you totally forgot because I feel like when we even covered summer rental, we're just like, it's kind of weird that this is a Carl Reiner movie.

Right.

And kind of the same with summer school and.

Very much the same with summer school as well, yeah.

But anyway, oh, wow.

OK.

All right.

Fabulous.

I I by the way, really want to see the documentary that Colin Hanks made about John Candy.

Oh I know I haven't seen it.

I'd love to.

It looks.

I love that.

I love that.

The idea behind this is that they wanted people to know that John Candy was the guy.

Everyone thought he was right?

Mm hmm, right.

And every story that I've heard about him is just about how amazing he was.

And which by the way, I mean, like, I think you can kind of say the same for Steve Martin.

I, I feel like that's I, I really, you know, tried to think of of anything.

And, you know, the man's got, you know, he's been such a long career.

Like this was his first starring vehicle as a film, but he was already well known.

He was already a household name by this point.

So have you read his book Born Standing Up?

I have so good.

It's my favorite audio book I've ever listened to.

Oh, I bet that's good.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I I didn't, you know, read it with my eyes.

I read it with my ears.

And I feel, I feel like this one is probably better served with him telling his story and.

Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

Yeah, I can.

I, I can certainly imagine, you know, I think I, you know, read it, you know, long ago.

And of course, you know, you're familiar with Steve Martin.

You kind of.

But yeah, the audio books and the memoirs where the authors, you know, themselves are reading it, right.

There's something.

Especially a performer like Steve Martin.

Yes, someone with a distinct voice.

You know, I think I mentioned some time ago the Al Pacino memoir, right?

Yeah.

So anyway.

Well.

And also Steve Martin, who's just an exquisite writer.

In his own right.

Well, yeah, yes.

I mean his voice.

So Steve Martin wrote what might be my favorite play, and it's a play that I I loved it from reading the script.

And there was something that drew me to the script.

So the name of the play is Picasso at the Le Panagio and it opened off Broadway on October 22nd, 1995.

S my would have been my 18th birthday.

So there was some kind of something I felt like drawn to it.

And I remember buying the script.

I think I, I bought it, you know, from the Drama Bookshop back in, you know, the mid to late 90s, really want to direct it, to direct it at our student theatre at Rutgers, Cabaret Theatre.

And definitely had a vision for it, though.

Don't know how you know, don't know that I would have gotten the job done necessarily at that stage in the game.

But it's something that is like, I'm still kind of drawn back to it.

And it is.

But one of the things about that play is no matter who's talking, you hear Steve Martin.

His voice is in every, every character, but in a way that it, it makes it work.

And like, you know, not kind of like, not always, not across the board.

And there are other plays of his that I've seen and that I've kind of been less enthusiastic about.

But in Picasso at the LA Panajil, it's Picasso and Einstein meet at this, you know, Parisian cafe one night and they spend a night and it's very surreal.

Like they're visited by Elvis.

Like it, it.

And it's like at the end, the stars make this formation and it's all very much about, you know, kind of the magic of the turn of the century.

And this was written in, you know, and premiered in the, the mid 90s.

So it it was, it's very, very wonderful and to your point that, you know, Steve Martin, you know, accomplished, to say the least, writer of of, of in, in pretty much all genres he's written, you know, written musicals.

Brilliant.

Yeah, Wonderful and Co wrote this movie.

It comes from his ideas and of course his stand up routine and and in Bourne stand it like people should totally check out Bourne standing up but you.

Absolutely.

You definitely learn like Steve Martin grew up there in Southern California.

OK, well I will say that Dan, have you watched the two-part documentary on Apple TV Plus, Steve?

No, I have not.

Oh, it's fantastic.

So if you don't want to commit to reading or listening to the audiobook for Bourne standing up, watch this two parter documentary.

It's split up between then and now.

Those are the two different parts.

And even if you just watch the then it's it's everything.

And it's really beautifully put together.

And he does a lot of the narration for it himself.

And then now very much focuses on his, you know, latter film career and his kind of evolution as an actor and a screenwriter, his, you know, relationship with his wife, his relationship with Martin Short, you know, and and taking exactly, absolutely, very much so.

And it's really, really wonderful and and beautifully made and just an exquisite tribute to an absolute legend.

And, and one and one thing that I really wanted to, to get at that just like, no matter, it's kind of like no matter what he does, I'm always interested and he's always very much defined himself as a performer and kind of what gave him and, and it's what gave gave him that, that leverage because it's kind of like just going into everything.

And this is coming out of performing rope tricks at Knott's Berry Farm down the road from Disneyland and and coming up in the, you know, stand up circuit doing, you know, it seemed like in the 70s there were a lot of people who were doing something that nobody else was doing.

But he was, you know, who balloon animals and.

He was doing, he was doing alt comedy when a lot of other stand ups were doing political stuff.

He was just doing like, how can I be just an outlandish goofball?

And he's trying to figure out how to stand out from everybody else and be true to himself and act and still succeed.

And after a long time of things not hitting, finding Saturday Night Live when it debuts, he's like, oh, there are other people who are just out there to be ridiculous.

And I can do things with other people.

And then in I believe in Bourne standing up.

And also in this documentary, Steve, it's like the night after he is on Saturday Night Live.

He's selling out like stadiums.

Oh yeah, I mean, talk about the guy who is constantly brought up as one of the greatest cast members ever of Saturday Night Live who was never formally a cast member.

Never a cast member?

Yeah.

But yeah, I mean, just like, I mean, God, wild and crazy guys alone, right?

Yeah, brilliant and and wonderful.

And also like he's like you said, like there's there's, there's, there's joy in his work and there's an innocence.

It's what has made him also a fantastic dramatic actor, even though, yeah, that has been less of his focus.

I think specifically of the Lawrence Kasdan film Grand Canyon, where he he takes on a more dramatic role as a as, as I think a film director or producer.

And, and he's friends with with Kevin Kline's character 'cause it's a Lawrence Kasdan ensemble, right?

Of course.

And, and, and also just, you know, just to kind of get through the like, you know, kind of fun facts here before getting into the the jerk.

So and because this connects to this wait, I'm trying to I'm I'm thinking of the alphabet COVID brain.

No, you're the one with COVID brain.

So, but OK, actually a connection to our yes, our last episode.

I'm trying to backwards alphabet killer's kiss.

Yes, killer's kiss.

So this movie was a favorite of Stanley Kubrick.

And I did not know that Stanley Kubrick.

Oh.

I take that back, I did.

OK.

Yeah, Stanley.

Kubrick.

Loved this movie.

He he invited Steve Martin to his house when Steve Martin was on tour in London.

He talked to Steve Martin and this was like, I mean, not long after the jerk came out, but even then he was still developing Eyes Wide Shut and thought was he wanted someone like Steve Martin as the the lead role as the bill.

What a different movie.

That would have been, yeah.

I mean, I'm sure that Steve Martin.

Would have been great.

Oh no.

I, I do, I think about well, and I think about like Steve Martin when he does play a more dramatic role.

And especially, you know, had he had it happened, I think by the time they made Eyes Wide Shut, perhaps, you know, maybe, maybe not.

But, you know, remember, not like Adam Sandler doing.

Uncut Gems?

Well, yeah.

Yeah, and but so, but Kubrick apparently, like would quote the jerk on set.

I'm trying to and I'm thinking of him like directing The Shining and and quoting.

It'd be pretty fresh, yeah.

Right.

Right.

So, but I mean, if, you know, even after that, I can see him quoting the jerk on, you know, he's doing full Metal.

I love it, you know?

Yeah, all you need is that thermos right there.

So it's too good.

And and.

Carl Reiner's what?

We've talked about Carl Reiner before.

Twice.

Legend at least who I've had the honor of of meeting.

Not did you?

Yes.

So have you told this story?

Probably.

But it's been a while since we've done an another Reiner movie.

So Long story short, my good friend Lynn Marie Rosenberg, host of famous cast words on all arts, please support public media, public broadcasting and and and Lynn.

But Lynn called me up and texted me or whatever and had an extra ticket to go hear Carl Reiner in an interview and also signing copies of his his like novel that he wrote, which was called N It was an N repeated at the 92nd St.

Y in Manhattan.

So of course, I went with Lynn and got to hear Carl Reiner tell all these wonderful stories about his decades of legendary work from, you know, the golden age of television through his his stuff with Mel Brooks and, you know, the 100 year old, 1000 year old man.

And, you know, just at least had the opportunity to shake his hand and get his autograph on a on a book.

That's delightful.

Yeah.

Great, great memory.

And just, you know, it's, it's just to say, you know, hey, I, you know, I shook the hand of of someone whose work I just greatly admire and respect.

Maybe someday I'll get to, I'll get to Steve Martin.

Yeah.

And you asked.

What was it like working with Mark Harmon?

I did.

I was like in wonder Mutt.

Yeah.

What was wonder?

Mutt like yeah, no, I've.

Always wondered like was it was Spuds Mackenzie right?

No, was it I I don't I'll have to go back and listen that episode.

Wasn't that dog like one of the Spuds Mackenzie dogs or something?

No, not at.

All Wonder Mutt was like a German Shepherd and Spuds Mackenzie's a bull terrier.

Get with it, Dan.

Yeah.

All right, hey, I've still got spud.

Mackenzie Spud Mackenzie, first of all, a female dog, which created a lot of controversy when that came out.

I feel like Spuds Mackenzie finding out the Spuds Mackenzie was a female was kind of like the Dylan Mulvaney of the 80s.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And time.

Yeah, absolutely.

But Bud Light, I mean supporting, you know, gender, I guess differences in gender and different ways of fluid gender.

So, so good on them.

Fluidity in in.

The the can and out of the can.

So absolutely.

So Spuds Mackenzie, I believe, was only just one dog.

Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, I think her name was like Winnie.

Or something like that.

Anyway, this is not a Spuds Mackenzie podcast, although maybe.

No wow IA conversation.

For another time table that but there's.

Only so many movies, and only one.

Spuds Mackenzie, this is.

So.

Anyway, coming back to Steve Martin, Carl Reiner and the jerk, yeah, so this is coming off of, I mean, him having this, the stand up career that he is kind of deciding.

I feel like I there's an end to this and I it's more about him wanting to make the decision on his own to end stand up, not realizing that he'd essentially be coming back to it much later in life, but as a pair with Martin Short.

But he's deciding I I want to make this film thing work and going to give it a go.

And at the very, you know, he's the hottest stand up comic out there.

And he just decides, all right, this will be my.

Last show and again, someone who defined himself every step of the way so.

Brave like Can you imagine being the most like famous stand up comic and then just deciding I'm going to do something different now, but I mean but.

That's also how you achieve success on the level of a Steve Martin, somebody who is still like firing on all cylinders and who like has just endeared himself to generation after generation, has evolved as a as a performer, has either evolved or just has slowly like just revealed side after side after side and again, seems to be genuinely well liked.

Totally.

So.

But that's The thing is like, not just anyone can do that.

There needs to be like, you have to have a certain amount of ego, but also you have to have that ego in check.

You have to know your own worth.

You have to but and you have to constantly be seeking to further your mastery of what you do.

This is not someone who rests on his laurels, Not at all.

Yeah.

So like tons, tons of of respect for the movie.

And if I can add just one more, one more thing.

Just looking at also 'cause this is released by Universal Pictures, who Universal Pictures and comedy in the late 70s, like early 80s really.

Like there's really this run of like slap shot, Smokey and the Bandit, Animal house, the Jerk Blues Brothers.

I mean, I know 1941 is, is kind of a a mess, but still it's kind it's but it's like you look at that movie and I watched it again not too long ago.

John Candy, Dan Aykroyd.

I mean, oh geez, it was like treat Williams.

There is so many of the Tim Matheson, Amy Irving, It's and it's all of these orbits of like this as a Belushi and like these all of these different orbits kind of coming together.

And it the jerk, you know, comes out as part of this, like this wave of of classic comedies.

That and also it's something that can be said certainly for, you know, Animal House, probably the most out of the out of the bunch is looking at how it it holds up as as a modern, you know, as a modern viewer.

And there are certainly things about the jerk that I would say in anyone else's hands would not have passed muster.

And because.

Of how they.

Are, I think, I mean, this is just my, you know, perspective as a viewer who, you know, just kind of tries to be attuned to that.

It kind of felt like, OK, I could.

I see why people wouldn't get upset at this.

Well, it's one.

Of those one of those movies that you know it it doesn't really hold up that well in certain ways to a broad audience, but I feel like for an audience that would see what it's doing there, it kind of gets a little bit of a pass.

I don't I wouldn't say that like, you know, I mean there's the N word in it and I'm not saying that, you know, anybody gets a pass for that.

No, but if you watch.

It.

Right.

Contextually then it's like, I don't know, there's something different about it.

And I'm not saying that like in any way it's ever OK to to say it even like no matter what year it is, but or who's saying it in what context it is, but like there's just something different about it.

Well, yeah.

And.

You know, again, like white writers using it, you know it.

That's the you know, it's just not the not the place.

So but that's also something that's like a really tiny piece.

And I think that there are, you know, larger aspects of it, the idea of, of his family and the, you know, that representation that right.

If you don't, if if you take a moment and you think, all right, well, what is the purpose of this scene?

What is being shown?

It's it's not, it's it's like not troublesome.

I can't say it's not offensive.

It's, it's, it's, you know, I don't know it, it could be offensive to somebody, but.

Well, it's not.

Yeah.

I think it's it's it's like the the.

Intent.

Is not harmful.

Right.

Yeah, yeah.

I mean, let's get into it, A.

Little as to white people.

I don't know how much more we can really get into it, but right but obviously.

I mean, this movie gets gets it, you know, it it because by now, you know, you'd hear about it if someone was like, I do not, you know, it's like, I am not OK with that.

And there are plenty of movies from this time that that are again, Animal House, among others, that that the that it's like, no, they that wasn't like, you know, that that was a messed up choice.

Well, and I think that a big difference is that the jerk in in so many ways is satirical.

And I is trying to get you to think in a different way about, you know, class and what it means to be privileged.

I think that there's a lot of this movie that just has to do with with privilege and the way that the world treats you when you are white.

And as you know, this movie famously begins.

It is and I'll let you get to is synopsis in a second.

But like, you know, it's this dopey white character who is the adoptive son of a black family, and not just any black family, but a poor black family and a very large poor black family.

And the they let you know really quickly that he is the butt of the joke.

And him being white is the butt of the joke because it's like, for his birthday, he's getting like a Twinkie and a tuna fish sandwich.

And he's the happiest guy in the world.

And the joke becomes on him.

And it's not about the family living in the house that they do or anything else.

And he's the one that doesn't have rhythm.

And they're the ones that are dancing and having a good time.

Exactly.

Exactly.

And and it's just one.

No, no, but you got that was that was kind of the point that I wanted to get to There is that he's the butt of the joke and his right and and and moreover, the privilege.

So shall I synopsize?

All right, do it.

After discovering on his birthday that he is adopted, white dope Navin Johnson decides to set off on his own to explore what the world has to offer, leaving his black family with honor and a jaded view of the world.

During his travels, he befriends A generous gas station owner, finds his special purpose with a stunt show performer, and meets the love of his life who would only be able to love him back if he had a few bucks to his name.

And as luck would have it, a handshake agreement would make him rich overnight.

But the higher Navin climbs, the harder he falls.

Of course.

Steve Martin as David Johnson as Marie, the love of his life, Bernadette Peters as the generous gas station owner, Harry Hartunian.

Jackie Mason.

Jackie Mason.

Jackie Mason.

We also have M Emmett Walsh as somebody who so good wants to take out a normal average person out right out of the phone book so.

Funny.

What a great concept.

So, so funny.

And oh, and you know who else is is in this?

Let me let me get his name here, OK.

Maurice Evans as Hobart, who also played Doctor Zeus in Planet of the Apes.

Yeah.

OK, Yep.

Oh yeah, we.

Bill Macy as as Stan Fox.

Isn't that the guy?

That's the guy who's.

The customer.

Wait, do I have the wrong guy?

You know, I I couldn't yes, but.

And he's.

I love this guy.

He's the customer.

He's Stan Fox buying gas, David Johnson selling it.

Yes, the.

Optic grab guy yeah the yeah, the.

Optic grab.

I love this guy.

He he totally makes good on this handshake deal to go 5050 with Navin and it's I like I I even I love the way he talks to me.

He's like I got a trunk full of this shit.

I got to sell.

I love it.

Yeah, he's great.

He immediately is just like on board of Navin and just loves his attitude.

Oh yeah.

They checked the oil together.

I love it.

So.

Funny.

Oh, I love that scene and of course that scene is the scene that then be goes right into the MMM Walsh firing and and John, how can you not think of Freaks and geeks when you see that scene?

He hates these cans so.

I and I and I did want to talk about this a little bit because and and because you brought it up, we may as well get into it right now.

So what's really awesome?

To.

To think about this movie with and, and I feel like Freaks and Geeks is a perfect way to explain the way that this movie was for people at the time who, you know, weren't around then, like me and and you, I mean, while you were around, but, you know, you weren't going to see the jerk at two years old.

No.

Yeah.

So in Freaks and Geeks, you know, the Sam, the the main, I guess, geek character, he and his friends are talking about how great the jerk is.

They just went to go see the jerk all these times.

And because the movie takes place in 1980 and the the girl that Sam likes, who's like a popular girl and not very much like them, she doesn't get it.

And like he takes her to see it and he's laughing his ass off and she just doesn't understand it.

She doesn't get why this like, you know, this young man with Gray hair is funny and doesn't understand any of it.

And he's just laughing so hard about the humor of, you know, the, the guy shooting at the cans and him thinking it's because somebody hates cans and cans are just everywhere.

And I that show, I feel like really can educate somebody on what it was like at that time to be a comedy fan in a time when comedy was changing.

So.

Especially for, you know, Steve Martin, who one of his first, you know, entertainment industry jobs is as a writer for The Smothers Brothers.

And it's like The Smothers Brothers type of comedy is so different from what his personal brand of comedy was.

And but The Smothers Brothers brand of comedy was more, you know, had mass appeal and was tame and it was too silly, but like, it was still very easy to, you know, understand the, the, the Smothers.

Brothers did have their reputation for pushing the envelope to a certain stand right.

So, you know, in a way it's almost a it it like kind of of all of those shows the right vehicle for Steve Martin to to, you know, get his chops and and and yeah, and I love right.

I think if that the portrayal in Freaks and Geeks really, really can bring you and show you like what this meant.

And it had never been seen before before It was, you know, it's like Monty Python a few years before it, you know, and now for something completely different, right, exactly.

And you had this revolution going on, right.

And it's like you had all these different people who were doing different things in Saturday Night Live, Andy Kaufman, etcetera, etcetera, right.

Like, you know, keep going, keep going.

You know, we're we're you know, Richard Pryor is I mean, you know, I know, you know, Pryor and Carlin, you know, ventured into the, you know, we're definitely venturing into the, you know, political, more political commentary, but like still, man comedy, right?

It it was blowing up and and the way that this movie, so this movie, I love what I one of the things I love about it is that it takes cliches.

It takes a formula classic like story of, you know, the, you know, poor boy makes good and you know, everything that, you know, send sending money back home every time.

And, you know, it's like, you know, there's little echoes of that and like things like HUD sucker proxy.

So you know, he's got he's the hitchhike to the city, which starts with a drive to the end.

All the boys, right.

Yeah.

And.

He and, you know, he's just so like, you know, any and it's like you take every cliche right down to like, you know, the driver pulling up.

It's like Saint Louis.

And it's like, OK, what would nobody else but this guy say?

No, he mistakes.

It's like no.

David Johnson.

Yeah, which is so.

Good, but then it's.

Like he starts small and but he gets like he gets a job at the gas station and then when Jackie Mason.

I'm going to start real quick.

He starts so small that the very first like time he hitchhikes, the guy can only take him next door, right?

Yeah, that.

Rob Reiner, by the way.

Oh, I didn't know that Rob Reiner driving.

The truck, Yeah.

Oh, that's funny.

So literally, he starts the smallest way you possibly can.

Oh, absolutely.

But he's still.

He's thrilled by the fact that he got that far on his own.

Yeah, and right he goes.

He gets the job at the first the whole thing with the with the motel.

So like the stray dog, the the cliche.

And by the way, like in the, you know, archetypical films like this, the character is, is like maybe 16 or something, right 1718, which is totally how he's playing it and which is totally out even the families playing it.

And I like the sincerity in the family scenes.

It just really sets you up to know that just like this is just who this guy is and that's they love him for it.

And but so he he goes, he gets the job in the gas station.

It's like, it's that scene where, you know, all the kid gets their first apartment and it's the rinky dinkiest little piece of crap in the city, but they love it.

And and he's doing, it's a restroom and there's a dude using the urinal.

Well, it it isn't the rest, it's the room past the rest.

No, no, no.

But he.

But when he starts, when Jackie.

But when he walks, it is the rest.

And he starts and he does the whole like scene that a kid does with why?

Well, this is what I'll do and I'll make it.

Oh yeah, and it'll be grand, I tell you.

And I love when he's.

Like and I'll move the wall over here and that way there's more room to do than this.

And there's still the urinal and, but, and that's another.

Great thing about this movie is it's where this, you know, moron just goes into like, this interior decorator talk like he's been reading magazines or something and like, he gets Feng shui.

Yeah.

Right.

Oh, it's so I love that scene and Jackie Mason is just standing there being like, what the hell, It's so good.

It's.

Not even in here.

It's in there.

Yeah.

He's just kind of.

Letting him talk.

And then once he's finished, he's like, yeah, no, no, no, no, the room's actually through this door.

No.

Well, and that's.

Another thing, this is even better.

I don't.

Have to change anything, right?

Well, and and let's talk, you know, while we're here on the trip, the Jackie Mason as Harry Hartunian.

Yeah, no relation to his Caddyshack 2 character, I'm sure.

I mean.

No official, no Canon relation SO.

But I, I love how he's just he just kind of amused by Navin and he like nothing really phases him and he's just like, oh, wow, OK, like this.

This guy thinks he's lucky, you know, to to have a shit job and yeah, do this.

But he actually like, you know, he kind of he cares for him.

He doesn't even get get mad.

We have this, of course, the other gas station scene where he tries to help nab the credit card thieves.

Right, which I mean, I don't I don't love the way that this one, this scene doesn't really hold up as much to me just because it's, you know, a group of Hispanic guys and of course they're the the villains or the criminals and they're.

Very stereotypical.

They're very stereotypical, and they're doing very stereotypical accents and voices.

Yeah.

No, no, no.

This is also something, this is one of those scenes that when I watched the movie for the first time in a while, which is like, oh, I forgot about the scene.

Yeah.

And it always kind of like there was some, like there's some scenes in this movie that I feel like, you know, in addition to to the scene being offensive, it goes on a little.

It doesn't really move things.

Forward.

It doesn't move things forward, but I love the reaction to it where Jackie Mason's like, you got rid of the church and he's like, what did I, what did I lose a couple of tires?

Yeah.

And it's, it's just also like, no one who would like, who would act this way, who would react this way?

Yeah.

Like this?

And, you know, it's kind of Jackie Mason was the right guy for the job, yeah.

And Speaking of the right guy for the job, his next job is working at the circus and, you know, first as a weight guesser and then he's kind of conducting the little train that goes around.

But for Steve Martin, who got his start at amusement parks, I mean, a great homecoming essentially.

And, and it's hard to to dislike this.

I feel like once he's with the circus, it's one of my favorite scenes or favorite, I guess bits you can say is after he meets Bernadette Peters character, they are in his little living quarters inside of a truck.

And this is just such a dumb joke, but I find it so funny.

But they're surrounded by all of the like pizza in a cup stuff and they're eating pizza in a cup and he's talking about this pizza in a cup place and he's like, yeah, you know, they put the other pizza in a cup place out of business.

That's how I have all this stuff.

And it's just like, that's so ridiculous.

The I don't know, the the stuff that he has isn't even about the place that he's talking about.

There's just two pizza in a couple places.

I don't know.

It's so dumb and weird.

Yeah, there's so.

Much in that whole carnival sequence that is kind of fun and random.

And it was one of those where when I'd watched it, so I I watched the movie.

I didn't I didn't get through a second viewing all the way through, but, you know, kind of watched it twice recently, but hadn't seen it in a while before that.

And I had kind of forgotten about the carnival, which is, I mean, aside from like I forgot about his he kind of his his girlfriend, the the motorcycle, the stunt woman, the stunt performer.

Yeah, yeah.

Who tattoos his name like on the list on on her ass.

It's like ridiculous.

I also I heard a rumor that Harrison Ford like is it cameos at in one of the carnival scenes that he's like really one of the like people like a car like a Carpenter working at the carnival.

I know.

But yeah, I remember hearing about this and I don't I couldn't I didn't catch him, but like apparently like it.

There's one shot where he he walks by Steve Martin.

But I mean.

He'd already been in some movies by then.

Yeah.

Some pretty big ones too, yeah.

Just a few, just a few.

But also it's like it's the same year he's an apocalypse now for like a scene.

So true.

Who knows, but I imagine that.

Apocalypse Now maybe filmed that, Yeah.

Before, you know, it's like, I don't know, because that took a long time to film.

Yeah.

So yeah, it's.

Possible that like, I don't even know if Star Wars had come out by the time, you know, when he had filmed, he may he might have filmed his stuff for Star Wars, but it might not have come out.

I don't know the the timeline for things.

And did you?

Know about and and this is not a rumor, but did you know about the Bill Murray scene?

I well, I knew, I don't remember.

Didn't he play gay in it like an interior?

Interior decorator it like at the man at his mansion.

Yeah, and and.

Did it get cut because it was just like it's punching down or something?

That's what I that.

Was what I heard about it and he was salty.

About it.

Yeah, like he said something when around the time the movie came out where he's like, yeah, no, it's not gonna work.

Like it's missing something, it's right.

But yeah.

But yeah, I that was kind of what I heard was they thought better of it and hey.

Good on them.

Yeah, yeah.

And I I I don't know that I don't think that scene is avail.

It's not like, you know, bonus on a DVD or right.

I mean, that's fine.

That's smart.

You know what?

We have enough Bill Murray out there where, yeah, I think even the the biggest fans of his can can, you know, rest easy.

I think so too, that that scene.

So a Speaking of that mansion, by the way, so that was Mohammed Al Fassi's.

He was related by marriage to the Saudi royal family, and apparently, like, they didn't have to do much to the mansion, like the disco and all that.

Like there's a disco room.

Like, apparently that was like, what it was.

And it burned a great find.

It burnt down not long after.

Too bad because what a place.

Yeah.

Yeah, it was.

Yeah.

Quite something I I I really in the right again.

It's the in this is where you really get that like social commentary and satire when he's really just stumbling into all of this wealth and fame and fortune.

250 big ones.

So good.

Yeah, OK, Clearly we love Steve Martin.

Clearly we have a lot of love and respect for the jerk.

We didn't talk at all about Bernadette Peters, who's absolutely enchanting in this movie.

Yes, the, you know, tonight you belong to me, but comes out of nowhere.

And but it's like famously.

Gets away with it famously when the premiere audience got up to get popcorn.

Right.

But I mean it's.

One of the most remembered and beloved scenes in the movie it now absolutely.

Absolutely is, as Steve Martin has said, it's, you know, I think his favorite scene, one of his favorite scenes.

He was, of course, it.

Is come on dating Bernadette.

Peters at the time, and yes, he was Yep, was in a relationship with her for for a few years and they are I think they've got, you know, regardless of that, they've got great chemistry and I love them singing.

It's great.

I love oh when she also when she pulls out the like trumpet.

Coronet.

Yeah.

Oh, it's so funny.

And that's one of my favorite, like gags is just like, you know, when our random instrument comes out that you're not expecting.

And Bernadette Peters plays it so well.

She like her physicality, her plays so well into so many of the gags that she really makes work and what I love.

About that scene is It's the moment when you stop wondering.

What does she see?

In him, because up until then he's this doofus and she's this beautiful woman.

And at that moment, you realize, oh, she's weird as hell also.

And like, she's somebody who's going to just, like, bust out a coronet and play along with the song that they're singing.

Oh yeah.

Oh, oh definitely.

I mean, yeah, you know, he meets her she's a was babysitting her friend's kid you know who's running around wearing AT shirt that says bullshit on it Yeah yeah, it's so good.

I I love that.

I like how it says it on the.

Front and the back.

Oh yeah.

Oh, it's fantastic.

You know, great classic.

Like, you know, little kid, 80s movie stuff, right?

So it, yeah, it's it, it's a really fun movie where I mean, like, where else do you go from there?

Of course, you know he comes back to to his family.

Absolutely.

Yeah.

So before then, of course, there's the even where the color of a baboon.

'S ass.

I love that line.

That's right.

That's great.

So of course we we know and we can't really spoil this movie.

It's been out for so long and it's so iconic.

But he gets sued because of his invention has turned everybody, including director Carl Reiner, cross eyed and he has to personally write checks for like a dollar to all of the people in the class action lawsuit.

And, you know, he has to go back and live on the streets because he's been completely depleted of funds and he's got no other options.

But fortunately, he's been sending money here and there to his family back home, and they've been investing it, and they gladly welcome him.

And why am I forgetting Bernadette Peter's character's name?

Marie?

Marie.

Yeah, so they all live happily ever after.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And I love.

You know, I love that that Marie does end up with him because like she's ready to, you know, she's leaving him at one point.

And like, so like, it's rocky.

And I feel like as an audience member, especially the first time I saw it, was like, I'm not, I'm not sure about her, right.

And, you know, I don't know if she's good for him.

But like, you get a, you know, you get a nice resolution for it.

And, yeah, what can I say?

It's a fun movie.

Yeah.

It's a lot of fun.

It's not one that I would say like I could watch all of the time, but like every few years putting it on, it's it's just good fun.

It's not an incredibly long movie.

It moves pretty quickly.

You can also just like.

Watch your favorite scenes.

It's totally it's it's kind of a collection.

So like, yeah, I would like there are definitely times where I'm like, all right, I'm going to watch the, you know, beginning.

I'm going to watch the beginning of the movie because I love being in the movie and now.

Dan, have you ever seen The Jerk 2?

TOO.

Oh God, I wish I.

I I'm, I am both glad I cannot and regretful that I cannot say yes.

Yeah, Mark.

Blankfield as a Navin.

Ray Walston plays a character named Diesel.

Mabel King is back as Mama Johnson.

Al Fan is back as Papa Johnson, but yeah, I mean I.

Mark.

Blankfield, who of course, has like gone off to do a lot of really fun other work.

I loved him in Robin Hood.

Men in tights.

Oh.

Oh yeah, He's, oh, blinking.

Is he blinking in that blinking?

Yeah, he's blinking.

Yeah.

Did you say?

Abe Lincoln?

Did you say Abe Lincoln?

Such a funny joke.

Like that movie isn't perfect but God damn that joke is so funny to me.

Great jokes.

In men and tights, I'd.

Say, maybe my favorite Dave Chappelle work.

I stand by it.

I would.

I mean, I think I can get behind some some Chappelle's Show stuff.

But otherwise, I feel like Dave Chappelle as a person has kind of soured me on most of his work.

But because in men and tights, he's not the star it like.

Yeah, it it rises to.

The top for me, it's not his.

Yeah, I mean, you know, the famous white men can't jump blind in the in the trailer.

Oh.

So good.

So I, and also Mark Blankfield was on the show Fridays, the Saturday Night Live copy that brought us Michael Richards and.

Larry David, Larry David was on that.

Yeah.

That was a another famous Andy Kaufman incident.

I know.

Amazing.

Yeah, absolutely.

So The Jerk 2 was a 1984 movie and I don't I've never seen it.

I've heard that it's terrible.

Oh, it's on the Roku Channel.

Oh, and rest in.

Peace, March 20th, 2024.

Mark Plainfield.

Oh, really?

Yeah, but yeah, all I've heard about the jerk too is that it is a real stinker.

And, well, I don't know.

Yeah, this is.

Not necessarily.

I mean, like we, as we, you know, have kind of talked about like, you know, as as as, you know, wonderful as Steve Martin is and as great as it is that like, you know, this movie is kind of his, you know, first, you know, starring feature and what it meant for comedy at the time.

It it's also not something that it, you know, works consistently across the board and it and it's something that doesn't work without the combined efforts of Steve Martin and Carl Reiner totally.

Yeah.

And I would say.

Without Steve Martin, I like, I think you could have Martin and not Reiner for something to to perhaps work, but not Reiner without Martin, Yeah.

But and before we talk too much about, you know, what we would do with with the jerk, I I want to talk just very briefly.

I know we're already over an hour, but what sets this movie apart from so many other Steve Martin movies?

And this is not not always the case, but he played so many, I don't know, anxious and put out, you know, dad roles and things like that.

Cheaper by the dozen?

Exactly.

Father of the bride, even parenthood, even though in parenthood he does have opportunities to, you know, revisit some of his past stuff with the balloon animals and everything.

So the cowboy, Gill and classic.

Yeah, and.

So I, I find it really it really fantastic, especially growing up with that that type of Steve Martin role.

I mean, even in three amigos of the the three goofy guys, he was the least goofy, right?

Yeah.

And it's so funny because when you watch his stand up, it's like this is the goofiest person that there is.

Oh yeah.

Well.

Have you seen the man with two brains?

Oh, I've seen.

The man with two brains.

And then that's what I'm saying.

It's not all of the it's not all of his movies by any means.

No Dirty Rotten Scoundrels.

I mean, I watched that one the other day because I really just wanted to watch like a that's a comfort over the top.

That's a comfort food.

Movie right there.

Yeah, that's so.

Delightful.

And I hadn't seen it in, so I hadn't seen it in long enough that I forgot how it ended.

So when the when the ending came, I was like so delighted by it.

Oh, it's just such a.

Nice.

Like kind of cozy blanket of a movie, Yeah.

Yeah, and I also, it's like then there's of course My Blue Heaven and and so many of these other movies where he does get to be like a complete goofball and an over the top character.

And I love that we can see these different sides of him.

You know, at the same time, when he's playing the dad in one movie, he can go to being another ridiculous person in another movie.

And I mean he.

He threw those and, and maybe I don't know if does he talk in like in the documentary at all, Like 'cause he's doing like the, the Sergeant Bilko stuff kind of in the, you know, mid to late 90s.

So like, you kind of wonder, like is, is he doing that just 'cause it's fun and like, like Dan Aykroyd and like Phil Hartman are in it and he gets to, I think that.

I mean, they didn't talk about Sergeant Bilko, but I think that for for ones like that movie, he must have been a Sergeant Bilko fan and enjoyed it the same way that he's probably a Pink Panther fan.

True, right?

Oh yeah, I forgot about those.

That he did.

Oh, he.

He's done so many movies bananas he's got.

And you know what?

Bringing down the house, that was a big one for him.

That was in his anxious, Yep, his anxious phase.

And you know what?

I'm.

Glad that you mentioned that Dan Aykroyd isn't Sergeant Bilko, because I was trying to remember if they had ever been in a movie together and I couldn't, off the top of my head, remember any.

And yeah.

I've only seen.

Sergeant Bilko maybe once, like on VHS or HBO or something like a long time ago and I totally forgot that Dan Aykroyd is in that one, but we used to play it on.

The TV's at the video store when I worked at.

Oh, OK, then maybe.

That's what I saw, yeah.

You know, yeah, fun.

I haven't seen it in a long time but hey, I remember it being fun so and also.

Isn't Glenn Headley in that one?

Oh, and Sergeant of Dirty Rotten.

Scoundrels.

Yeah, and Dirty Rotten.

Scoundrels.

She's in, right?

But isn't she also in Sergeant Bilko?

Oh, you know what?

You might be right about that.

I want to say that she's.

In that one too.

Let me see I.

Mean, like it's.

It's been a while.

Yeah.

Glen Headley's.

Yeah.

There you go.

Glen Headley's in that.

Let's see while I'm looking.

She's so great.

Yeah.

Pamela, he has.

He has worked.

Alongside so many amazing other actors and in like romantic pairings with other incredible actors.

And when you go down that list and see, you know, you know, LA story and I was.

Just I was like, we cannot let the episode end without calling out Roxanne Story Roxanne.

And these are also scripts that he wrote, so they are so witty and and fun.

Smart.

Yeah.

So.

Smart LA story, I think especially and like, not that I lived in LA in the early 1990s or ever, but it felt like so true to that time and place.

So LA story.

I need to go back and watch that one again.

It's it's been a while.

Rick Moranis pops up in.

He's got a cameo in that.

He's so fantastic.

Oh, and Speaking of other movies where Steve Martin gets to be a goofball, Little Shop of Horrors, Little Shop of.

Horrors, yeah, I mean goofball steam ceiling.

You know, like a sadistic.

Character into a you know a a favorite well because.

He's he can be so physical and his body, like he has complete control over how ridiculous his body can be.

Oh, and how smooth it can move while still being silly.

He's oh, he's so he's so good in it.

He's so his.

I mean his his recording of dentist is iconic.

The best?

It is hard.

To do that show without, like, you know, you really have to get away from that shadow of Steve, Steve Martin.

You really do.

Yeah.

So.

All right, let's get into it, OK.

It's been a very long time since this movie's come out.

What would you do with it nowadays?

Nothing.

I knew you were going to say that.

I would OK.

So here's my idea for any type of like revival of anything from this movie is if the Thermos company were to do a Super Bowl ad and pay Steve Martin to play Nathan Johnson in a Super Bowl ad for Thermos, that is what's it's the only thing he needs.

That is what?

Right, right.

It kind of like it works, but I don't know.

That's a.

And yeah, like Bernadette, Bernadette Peters and Steve Martin are both and I would love to like, let's put Bernadette Peters.

Like has she not been on Only Murders in the Building yet?

Can we know that happened?

Can we have her be on a season of so we get like a Bernadette Peters Steve Martin reunion?

I I can only imagine any wounds would be healed by time at this point.

They are in their 80s.

Like bring them together for a reunion.

Let's do that.

You know, you want to bring Rob Reiner in, you know, Carl past.

But hey.

Why not?

But next best thing?

Right, but I don't.

Want to see like, there's no sequel for this and there's no like, let's turn it into a musical because it is.

It is so much about the creations of Steve Martin.

Right?

So.

So that's I that's it.

That's what I got, John.

OK, what say you?

Fair enough.

I I would want Nathan R Johnson to have his own interview podcast.

Oh.

I feel like, OK, so obviously Martin Short has Jiminy Glick, who so much of it is about his physicality and everything so works visually, but I feel like it'd be really fun even if it was just like 6 episodes for like not Steve Martin Navin R Johnson to you know, because he could slip into doing more of the voice but not have to worry about looking, you know, Navin R Johnson Y.

But, you know, doing a little bit of a, an interview kind of a thing and just being a kind of 1/2 wit and, you know, not understanding things.

I don't know, because you're right.

There's no like movie or TV show or anything like that that would make sense.

I don't want to know about like the continuing adventures of of Nathan Johnson.

But perhaps there is a a world in which, you know, we can slip into that character and do something that has nothing really to do with him, but maybe like focus on his view of other people.

Yeah, I would say like an interview podcast is is the only way to go.

He could take over.

WTF.

Why not?

You don't have to change the.

Name No, it would be great.

That would be fair that we like that man like Marc Maron.

Would you go for that?

Would you be?

I can't imagine he wouldn't.

Yeah, I don't know.

But seriously, like there's really nothing that you can do with with the jerk.

It exists so perfectly in its own world and to to anybody who for whatever reason maybe hasn't watched it, you got to go watch it.

It is such a ridiculous piece of fun and it's iconic.

And you have to.

And again, you know, remember, remember the the times and consider all of you know what we said.

Watch the episode of Freaks and Geeks.

Yeah, go back and watch Freaks and Geeks just in general because it's so wonderful.

Yeah, it won't take you.

Long.

There's not that many episodes.

No, no, no, no.

But it's really, yeah, it's a perfect season of television and, and so many familiar, familiar faces that you'll see.

Yeah.

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Like, you know, the roof is going to be blown off of things and this is this is going to be the episode that does it.

So our next episode we are talking about the island of Doctor Moreau.

Specifically, 1996 is directed primarily by John Frankenheimer, starring David Thulis, Marlon Brando, Valkilmer, Feruza Balk, Ron Perlman.

Oh goodness.

Oh goodness.

Lions, tigers and bears.

Kind of sort of.

Oh my and oh, I can't wait.

I, you know, it's one of those movies where I'm just like, how has it taken us this long to cover it?

But then I'm also just like, I can't believe we're covering this.

Like it kind of exists in both of those worlds.

It was, yes.

So much, so much to say.

So much to say about Island of Doctor Moreau.

And if you have not seen this movie, go check it out.

If you have a library card and your library offers Canopy, it is currently streaming on Canopy and that's all you need is a library card I.

Will say this, I have canopy under two different library cards because I live in a place where I can be in two different counties library systems and it is so I live in Portland, OR which is Multnomah County.

The Multnomah County library does not have access to the Island of Doctor Moreau, but the Clackamas County library system does have access to Island of Doctor Moreau.

So if you do have Canopy and you aren't seeing it, maybe it's just not available for your library system and you're not scamming.

Anybody by doing that.

So that's why the library is awesome.

Thankfully, Seattle, we have it.

We have the island of Doctor Moreau.

Yeah, So what?

Check this movie out and then join us for our next episode 'cause you know what?

I if you see this movie, you're going to want to talk about it too.

You're going to want to talk to somebody else about this movie.

Absolutely.

Well Dan, as you are peeling down the road with 1/2 of a church tied to the back of your car, I wish you a good journey.

And hey, don't forget.

That thermos good journey.

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