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A World View from London: Israel claims aid site shootings are ‘fake news’

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Speaker 1

Cave Talk A Worldview from London with Adam Gilchris The Morning Adam Gyorchris Hope you've been morning.

Let's start with Israel's fate news claims contrary to what the United Nations is now.

Speaker 2

This has been done before, but it's interesting that Nadav Shashshani, a spokesman for the Israeli Defense Forces, has told us a few things.

He says that Israel is not restricting aid into Gaza, contrary to what the United Nations has said.

He says Israeli troops are not firing at people at AID centers, contrary to what Hamas and others have told us.

He says there are lots of AID trucks, but the UN is blocking them.

We saw an incident though, yesterday, when twenty people died as four AID trucks were simply overwhelmed by people clamoring for food.

At least one of the trucks toppled over and crushed people in their desperation.

So Shashani makes some points which do seem to be completely at odds with what AID workers on the ground are telling us, but he does make a good point.

I think that Hamas doesn't always wear uniforms that Hamas are pursuing their own agenda to make Israel look like the bad guys, although Israel, of course is doing it on its own as well.

So how do we know what we know?

And again, what we come back to is everyone, certainly Israeli forces and others are stopping independent journalists from going into Gaza.

So therefore what we have is the truth only through the prism of people with an agenda.

I mean, even the aid workers have an agenda.

But still we need we need to know what's going on somehow, don't we.

Speaker 1

The I'm sure you familiar with Steve Bannon's flooding the zone theory.

It's if you have flooded the one, the public space, the public square worth enough effluent that it doesn't matter if it's true or not.

Is so much effluent that we are simply not going to trust anyone.

And so I see a lot on social media, and I see a lot that maybe backs maybe my biases, and even I myself, and I think myself as a conscientious news consumer first and foremost, even those who I believe to be credible, even I have to stop and pause.

Okay, indust reality where there is so much misinformation, disinformation even if I believe this image to be true, I or I am left with saying, but can I trust it?

And that's what flooding the one means that even the accredited credible media agencies, the multilateral organizations like the UN and AID agencies, even now you left with, oh, yes, and that is that's the harm that's been done over the last few years.

Speaker 2

Adam agreed.

And social media absolutely allows that even more.

I'm a little aghast sometimes that.

I mean, I have friends who only get their news through the opinions of certain others via social media TikTok in particular, but others too.

And you think wouldn't be better just to step back and just listen to and watch and read some differing organizations with their differing takes on the same story.

Isn't that a healthier way to go?

Or are we all so impatient that we just can't do that anymore?

Speaker 1

Okay?

And then Trump's secondary tariffs, wo betide those trading worth Russia and like South Africa, India has been hit.

And so South Africa has its own political tensions with Donald Trump.

But Donald Trump hitting India because he claims that they're buying cheap oil from Russia, and that, according to him.

Speaker 3

Is wrong.

Speaker 2

Yes, so you were just talking about the tariffs and the imposition on the global trade, and indeed it is a global trade war effectively.

But the secondary tariff's thing is interesting because essentially Donald Trump says any country supporting Russia's war machine in Ukraine will be hurt.

India has been buying quite a lot of Russian oil, but partly because other sources of oil were being diverted, and to some extent they were kind of instructed by America, no go and seek other sources because Europe needs these or Ukraine needs these.

So to some extent, not completely one hundred percent, India has had America advising it to buy a Russian oil oil previously, and China and Turkey are also big buyers of oil and gas from Russia.

The EU still buys a fair bit, is downscaling, but as we speak, buys a fair bit of Russian oil and gas.

And yet the EU is also spending heaps on weapons for Ukraine.

So in what way would Donald Trump look at the EU.

They've already done a deal with the EU, after all, So some of this just seems to be mouthing off how it works practically, but you know what, many nations South Africa included would need to work out if financially, let alone morally, but financially it makes more sense to trade with Russia or America.

And of course, given the reliance on the United States for a lot of countries, there's that thing, isn't there that if we weren't so interlocked, all of us with the US economy and the US dollar and everything else.

Right now, I think there are a lot of countries to be going, yeah, stuff it and go in a different direction, but we are so in a lot it's almost impossible to do.

It's certainly impossible to do just like that.

Speaker 1

And then Italy is bridge too far.

There are plans to link mainland Italy with Sicily.

Speaker 2

Yeah, they've given final approval to a thirteen and a half billion euro This is two hundred and eighty billion rands worth of bridge.

It will be the world's longest suspension bridge three point three kilometers and will connect the island of Sicily to the region of Calabria.

So the island will be bolted onto the tip of the boot, as it were.

The designers claim the bridge due to be built on one of the most seismically active parts of Europe.

Indeed the world will be able to withstand earthquakes.

I have to say this has been mooted and indeed booted many many times before.

Mafia meddling was one reason for dumping the project once upon a time.

It is a much poorer end of Italy.

Is it actually economically worth it to build a bridge?

There are ferry services already and you can take a train onto the ferry at the moment, which is so cool.

And you can also bet that two hundred and eighty billion Rand would not be the final bill.

But I love this.

How's this for the Italian two step?

They're hoping to classify building this bridge as a military expenditure and then it would count towards the NATO target of five percent of GDP to be spent on defense.

How on Earth building a bridge like that is a military Well, I suppose you get a tank to drive across it, don't you?

Job done?

Speaker 3

And that's how you get past Donald Trump's demands by doing as he has does.

Speaker 1

Some niftique accounting.

Speaker 2

Yeah, some two stepping shuffles, soft shoe shuffling, which is easier to do than say.

Speaker 3

Adam, Crystal Budge has always altered.

To you tomorrow on Friday for our Friday edition of the Worldview.