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Jordan & Jake 712: October Football

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Speaker 1

Jordan and Jake.

Speaker 2

I go good, I'm ignited, ready to go.

Speaker 3

The bump stops.

Speaker 1

He throws at a crossfield.

Guess who George grows?

Speaker 3

Here are your panther Hall of Honor remembers Jordan Gross and Jake Delome.

Speaker 1

Jake, today's October first, so that's good news.

October.

I don't know this won't air on October first, but today is the first of October, and October I think is becoming as I get into my mid forties, my favorite month of the year.

Why is that the weather's awesome?

There's not like when you get older.

It's like, oh yeah, I could maybe wear a jacket today.

Like that gets me real excited, you know, like the chain, Oh yeah, this is blue jeans.

I got blue jeans today, and I might wear a jacket or a hooded sweatshirt.

And when the weather calls for that, you get a little it's like a little treat or.

Speaker 3

Some to it.

Speaker 1

Jake.

I don't understand why I never paid attention to it for my first thirty five years, probably, and then now the October is just gets me excited.

So I just thought i'd share that.

Jake.

I know you're I agree with you in climate down there.

But there, you know, the football, football, like across the country, gets a little more important, you know, Like now high school we're in conference games.

The the college teams are mostly through their non conference schedule.

I don't know, it's a good time of year, man.

Speaker 3

No, I can agree with you there, and I usually feel the same way.

Speaker 2

There's only one problem.

We're going to approach record highs today, like in the.

Speaker 1

Three Yeah, well that's I mean, I can help you.

Speaker 2

But it was only about seventy this morning when I got up, So that's that's always a win.

Speaker 3

When they can almost touch in the sixties, that's that's that's a win.

Speaker 1

How many cups of coffee?

Does the weather determine your coffee and take?

It?

Speaker 3

Does not?

Speaker 1

It's it's steady.

Speaker 3

Yeah, every day.

Speaker 1

You're such a routine guy.

I can't You've told me this before, But how many cups of coffee?

Speaker 3

I drink one in the morning before I leave because you know, I have to watch the news in the weather just a little bit.

Speaker 1

You do you listen to talk radio?

You watch at the same time.

Speaker 3

No, not not not not, that's radio.

Speaker 2

And then I'll make me a cup when I drive to the bourn and there, you know, kind of step that a little bit on the way in a little bit when I'm.

Speaker 3

At the born.

Speaker 1

What's making a cup of coffee for you?

Is it just like a coffee pot you have like a cuig No, it's a.

Speaker 3

It's a and it's it's black, you know.

Speaker 2

I like my coffee black with a teaspoon of honey, local honey honey.

Yeah, that's my money and coffee.

Yeah, that's my that's my sweeten or no cream or anything like that.

Speaker 1

I don't know that I've ever heard that, Jake.

Speaker 3

It is phenomenal.

Just money in coffee.

Speaker 1

Yeah, that was new, your weird, you know, And that's what just confirms it further.

Speaker 3

What do you put in tea?

Sugar?

Speaker 1

I don't break tea at all, all right, just making sure anyways, Uh, homecoming week for me at the old high school level.

Okay's deal a deal?

Speaker 3

Did you pick the opponent for homecoming week?

Speaker 1

You know?

Specifically, I would say that you typically want to pick a matchup that you feel like you've got an.

Speaker 3

Opportunity, complete focus focused by your team.

Speaker 1

Yeah, and I don't can you know any disclaimers of all that anything can happen.

But right now we're playing pretty well.

So we're five and oh so we should I'm hoping that we can get it done, have a good homecoming, you know, great powder Puff tonight, Jake.

Last year in the powder Puff game, two girls collided faces had to go straight to the hospital with stitches down the broad Wow.

A little extreme, a little extreme in my book, but nonetheless, Jake, a lot of changes on the Panthers roster this week.

Did you hear that we've got an IR another alignment on IR?

Speaker 2

Yeah, I did, Jordan, It's ah, but listen, that's part of it.

There's so many injuries now in the NFL, so many teams that are going through this.

And you know, last year with our offensive line, we were very lucky and this year we're just having some We've been hit by the injury bug a little bit.

But next man out and you know, hopefully somebody can step in and perform.

Speaker 1

Well, that's just the standard issue right there, Jake.

I feel like there's like a little I feel like there's a little something under the surface with you right now, potentially about our Panther status.

But Brady Christiansen will come in as the right guard familiar name, the depth, proving valuable already only four weeks into the season, Jake, But we bet I don't feel real great if we get another injury.

I'm gonna be honest with you.

Speaker 3

Yeah, Jordan, I'm kind of like you.

It's a.

Speaker 2

You know, Robert Hunt really and truly his first four years in Miami and then last year basically knock.

Speaker 3

On wood, he was injury free and then he gets a bicep.

You know, we know Austin Corbett has had a history of some injuries, and I think we thought it might have been worse with the knee in Arizona.

It doesn't sound like it is season ending, so maybe we could grab him and get him back at some point.

Speaker 2

But yeah, it's just been especially for Zaballah, you know, fourth round pick who really and truly he's never had a true chance to prove himself because he gets in there and puts some decent footage on film.

Speaker 3

But the injury bug has just been it's been difficult for him, very difficult.

Exactly right.

Speaker 1

And I'll said David Moore elbow injury, Jake, the dreaded elbow injury.

He's on IR as well, so our receiver leaguet was already out last week and now more on ir So, just it's been kind of tough, Jake, it's kind of been one week ago we were so pumped about the thirty to zero, now forty two thirteen, forty two straight unanswered points.

Just talk us through as a panther guy, like where you're at here, Jake.

Speaker 2

You know, Jordan, probably just more like frustrated, I guess you could say, because you know, like I do see improvement.

I think our roster is better this year than it was last year.

I like some of the young guys that we had, but just you know, it's just frustrating because you felt, I don't know, maybe it's me and I'm too optimistic.

I just I felt Jacksonville didn't lose the game, and Arizona didn't lose the game.

I don't think they won the game, to be quite honest, I felt like we just gave them things with it with turnovers and points and we just little things where I know we can perform better, we didn't.

Speaker 3

And then we play Atlanta and yes we had one muff kick on a kickoff on a punk turn, but other than that, just a queen football game and we destroy him.

And then last week, you go right down the field in the first drive, so effortless, and then it's like we stalled.

We stalled at the punt and then they returned at eighty something yards for a touchdown, and it's just demoralizing.

And we had some other issues on punt and we lost another receiver, d Levon Campbell, someone we claimed off waivers, I believe from the Chargers, who showed up so much the week prior as a.

Speaker 2

Gunner, and I always felt we didn't really have a gunner, and we got one through the waiver wire, which was great by the front office, and then he's on IR.

So yeah, Jordan, it's just been tough man.

Both defensive starting outside linebackers.

Rush guys didn't play last week and so Nick s Gordon had to play a bunch and Princely and yeah, they're doing a good job, but it's just that was frustrating, you know.

Speaker 3

Jordan, I didn't expect that.

Now.

I did not think New England was a bad football team.

Speaker 2

If you watch them play against Pittsburgh, should have won the game.

They had four turnovers and two of them one was going over the goal line to score and another one was in the red area.

So there was a team that really and truly should have been Pittsburgh and they're not a bad football team at all.

But yeah, so we played a team on a short week with a major injury in Miami and they've had some struggles.

Speaker 3

But I think I'm frustrated.

Speaker 2

I think you can hear to my voice, but I think you can everyone feels that way.

I think Canalis as optimistic as he is.

I mean, I think Dave said it after the game and he took total ownership.

Speaker 3

I gotta find it.

I got to do something different.

And that's a coach basically sending a big shot to the team, like, hey, you know, and the team credit some of the players that are talking.

It's not the coaches, it's us.

I mean, they're squarely taking the blame.

And as a player, you've got to decide.

You have to decide do you want to get better or not?

Do we want to week in and week out.

We can't just be a one time a week, once a month, Oh we had.

Speaker 2

A good game, we feel good.

No, it's got to be and you go back to work on Monday.

Then when you come back on Wednesday, it's we've got to get better.

We got to build on it, you know, and I think we'll play better this week.

Speaker 3

Is just that's the frustrating point.

Speaker 1

As a head coach of a smaller operation, I can sympathize with coach Canalis when he says, like, I have to figure out how to prepare the team better.

Man.

You can hyper analyze everything, Jake, like you go through in the offseason when everything's fine.

Here's our training camp schedule, Here's how I want to do things, Here's what I want to do on Tuesdays on Wednesdays.

Once we get in the regular season, blah blah blah.

And then you can just start thinking, Okay, all right, and every decision when you're the guy in charge, every decision is gigantic to you.

So, hey, I'm thinking about going noepads on Thursday or you know, whatever the case may be.

How's that going to be?

What are the guys going to think of that?

Is that going to make them think that I don't think we should compete hard?

Is that going to make them think that I'm taking care of their bodies and it's going to energize them?

Okay, maybe we should do full we should do a live goal situation.

Okay, if I do that, what if somebody gets hurt?

Well, what if it also shows the guys that we got to play tougher.

What you know, on and on and on, and it's such a long NFL season, and then you get the injuries that come up in and around at Jake, and as the head guy at this situation, I feel for coach Canalis because there's so many variables that are out of his control and then he's just got to be hyper analyzing everything and figuring out, all right, where can I get that competitive edge?

Jake, As a player, it's funny because you just like we would get the schedule, we would get the meeting times, the coaches would come in with the game plan.

I know you as a quarterback, you had more say in that, and we're involved more than like I would have been as alignment.

But when you're receiving it, it's just so easy that that's what we're doing and you can kind of criticize it a little bit, But as the head guy, Jake, it's it's all up to you, and he's right man to take that accountability and say I got to figure out how to do a better job.

What are some things that you think he can do?

Right?

Like, we got it.

Now we're the Dolphins a winnable game.

Back at home, Like if you're saying, what would you what would you want him to do here?

Speaker 2

Okay, I mean, just well and listen, it's so difficult because there's new CBA with the amount of padded practices and things.

I mean, we knew how we were going to practice way back when, right we knew we're gonna have paths at least one day a week, and then the next day we're going out in full paths to get through nine on seven, which is in essence a run drill because offhensive linemen.

Indeed, you have to get your fits defensive line and linebacker has to get their fits.

And so then we take it off halfway through practice once that was over and done with.

Speaker 3

So we knew, but now what is.

Speaker 2

It sixteen padded practices they can have during the course of the.

Speaker 3

Year, So you have to be selective and and and things like that.

So it's just and I hear you questioning, okay, am I doing this right?

Am?

I?

Speaker 2

And I can only imagine what somebody's going through when it comes to that you know, like when you're just constantly okay, could you want to do what's right for the team, But it comes a point in time where the team has to say, hey, coach, whatever you decide, we're going to do, and we're going to execute it at a high level.

Speaker 3

Right.

I mean I'm wrong for thinking.

To me, that's where my mind goes.

Well.

Speaker 1

I was very close with Ron Rivero when he became our coach because I was one of the elder States.

Manuel was my ninth year when he got here, and then we were together for three years through my eleventh season, and he would ask my opinion on things a lot.

And I remember, especially when he first when he first came, he would he was so respectful and he would ask players and his assistants and he would ask you know, the GM and not that he didn't want to be a charge, but like just asked for feedback.

Speaker 3

And I think he finally.

Speaker 1

Learned too that man, sometimes you got to quit asking, you know, Like there were so many different opinions.

If if coach Canalys right now went around and asked every player and the owner in the GM and the scouting department, man, what they think we should do?

Jake he'd get fifty different answers, so you know, he's and I think there's a lot of conviction.

I don't know him closely, but I feel like there's a lot of conviction in him trusting his processes, and he speaks about it so so well and knows what he believes.

But that's it, man, He's just got a staff to stick to what he thinks is right for this team.

And you were well said when you said the teams just kind of have to say whatever you need, coach, We're going to go with it and do it.

So be anxious to see where it goes from here.

Jake, Yeah, the Dolph go ahead, go ahead.

Speaker 3

No, I agree, And I think you know, like and I'm thinking about him, listen, he wants to run the football right establish it.

I don't know if we've seen that yet from Tuba.

Tuba's a volume carrier.

Speaker 2

He's one that he gets lubed up in the better well, the first two games, that's completely out of the window.

We were able to see some of it a little bit more in the Atlanta game, right, and then again last.

Speaker 3

Week out the window.

Speaker 2

You know, it's it's after the first half of the run game.

In essences out the window.

Speaker 3

Like that's that's who we need to be.

Speaker 2

And I know we have issues up front, We've had some injuries, but you've got to Jordan, you and I.

Speaker 3

Both know what a run game does.

We never we You never played in a pass happy offense, and neither did I.

Right, it was a coach Fox.

Speaker 2

It was defense, run the ball, play action, pass, take a shot, things of that nature.

Same thing with Ron y'all ran the ball because y'all had the freak of all freaks at quarterback who could just put on a cape and do things on his own, and he just got better and better as a passer.

Speaker 3

Which ended up him being the NFL you know, league MVP.

Speaker 2

But that's Carolina was known as that tough kind of like that that physical offense and defensive football team, you know, And that's something that in listening to date, that's what he wants to do.

Speaker 3

That's the that's the background, that's the history.

His pedigree is coming from Seattle with this physical run game and the play action passes, take shots in the past game and a physical, you know defense.

So that's kind of where I think his mind is right now.

It has to go.

Speaker 1

I hope to see it this week.

Man, it's just just back at home.

I've already said it October, you know, beautiful weather and a Miami team that's limping in a little bit, Jake, like you said, on a short week, and then that terrible injury to Tyreek Hill.

I know you probably saw the video on that, Jake, Like spit grewesome injuries.

I had one myself with, you know, a complete break on my lower right leg and had it hanging there sat you know, no bone structure intact and foot backwards and all that.

We're used to injuries, Jake, but man, it's it's rough when you see some of those that look so bad like that Tyreek Hill injury did Yeah, you.

Speaker 2

Never I mean one you hate injuries, but just gosh, I saw him live, Jordan.

Speaker 3

I'm in the kitchen and I saw it, and I'm.

Speaker 2

Like, oh, you just you physically get weak, and you know I physically I was next to you when that happened to you.

Speaker 3

I mean, you saw it happen.

You just knew like, oh my gosh.

You know, it's just it's one of those and how the team responds to it.

I mean, our team we were in an absolute complete funk when that happened to you, because you just know and I'm not just praising you.

Everybody knew what you meant to the team and which you brought to the team.

But and the crazy thing is you just got to get over it.

But we're playing a team that was struggling mightily.

And yes, they had to.

Speaker 2

Win on Monday night, so it's a shorter week.

But I mean, you know, the Jets, my gosh, thirteen penalties, fumbled going into the end zone, some turnovers.

The Jets kind of they thought their coach was phenomenal.

Speaker 3

Aaron Glenn was like.

Speaker 2

Until you decide you're not gonna lose, you can't win, and that's you.

Speaker 3

He was exactly right.

Speaker 2

So we're playing a team that's coming there.

Number one playmaker is not there to a win.

Under center a lot more last week had a lot more success.

Darren Waller is a freak show of a tied end.

Speaker 3

Who had a good idea night.

You know they're going to try to run it and wait turnover free because they're saying, I promise.

Speaker 2

You, they're saying in their meetings is that, Hey, you don't know what you're gonna get with this team, but we can cause the turnover from them, and we can jump on top of them and make them one dimensional.

Speaker 3

That's probably what's being said in their meeting room.

Speaker 1

No, one hundred percent, they're saying very similar things to what we are too.

Hey, it's a one in three team, it's a winnable game.

It's October football.

Let's get back on track.

Yeah, Jake, no magic answers.

When tough things get like this, and you and I unfortunately were parts of seasons where there were slumps like this.

You know, after remind everybody about what happened after our Super Bowl year.

Jake, Sure, so two and six, Yeah, we're no.

Speaker 2

One in six, one in seven, I think, Jordan, we were we okay, sure, No, we lose the first game and you lose Smitty, you know, Steve Smith for the year, right breaking.

Speaker 1

Broken in injury, he's injuries.

Speaker 2

Yeah, but not only that, we just we started losing guys left and right.

We had a tackle we signed in the offseason, Adam Metals retire, Stephen Davis, Deshaun Foster, Chris Jenkins, Dan Morgan.

We just started we lost all these stones on our football team and then we're playing in San fran who was an awful football team, and we're down at half and I remember John Fox, he laid it into It's like I had never heard him lay into this before.

Speaker 3

And he was a tough, tough coach, and it basically was like.

Speaker 2

You decide to get over it, I mean, and sure enough, we just were like screw it.

Speaker 3

In the second half.

We just took off and then we won what six out of seven or seven out of eight whatever, it was six out of eight maybe to finish the season, and we gave ourselves a chance going into the final game of the season to even make the playoffs.

Speaker 2

But we were signing guys like on Wednesdays and they're starting.

Speaker 3

For us on Sunday.

We signed a full back, Casey Kramer.

If I'm not mistaken, because Brad Hoover got hurt.

You know, hey, we met him Wednesday morning.

How you doing.

Yeah, You're starting at fullback on Sunday.

And we played phenomenal.

Speaker 2

We just we went back to our core concepts our or this is what we're gonna do.

We're gonna run, you know, tosskater power, counter and then Nick Gowan's became that running back.

We changed the passing game to everything got filtered through Moose instead of Smitty and Moose.

Speaker 3

Now we have to go.

Speaker 1

You know.

Speaker 3

It's just you have to find a way.

Speaker 2

And when players decide to find a way, then that's when I think you can really kind of get things jump started.

Speaker 1

The last thing I have has nothing to do with the Panthers, but I read a good article on ESPN about QB's strategies and how they talk to the officials before game and end game.

Jake, and I'd seen Bryce talk to the quarterback or the officials from time to time, but just that relationship, Jake, it is just I think it's something that'd be fun to hear from you, Like, did you work those officials when you were a quarterback?

Try to get some calls maybe a rough in the past or how is that for you when you were on the field.

Speaker 2

Listen, I think you developed a relationship with some of the officials, you know.

And hockey le he was he was a gentleman and he was you know, he didn't get emotional.

Speaker 3

Gene's terratory I thought was awesome.

A few of them, Uh god, what was the other I'm trying to blink on another one's name, maybe Phil was peel lucky well anyway, but you develop a relationship with him.

Speaker 2

But the whole rough in the pastor stuff that was called very different than it is now, right, I mean they're laying the body on you.

Speaker 3

I mean they drove you into the ground.

Speaker 1

Right.

Speaker 3

That was coached.

But you had a couple of jordan that listen, they were what they were.

Speaker 2

They thought they were holier than now, and they just you couldn't talk to them.

And you know, I know their names, I won't repeat them, but just they were they thought they were holier than now, you know, and they just didn't want to talk to anybody.

But it just is what it is.

But you try to have somewhat of a working relationship.

I mean, I remember ed hockey Lee we in Dallas and we're playing.

It's the week before Thanksgiving and I throw and I get I felt it was late, and I mean I get picked and driven.

Speaker 3

But when I looked at him and he was like a jake, it was close.

Speaker 1

It was close.

Speaker 3

I just didn't think, I'm okay, I'm okay with that.

Speaker 2

He told me the truth, you know, I mean, he told me the truth.

Whether I agreet it, but at least you didn't lie to me, you know.

Speaker 3

Yeah.

Speaker 2

I like the ones that you can kind of talk to or they'll tell you something, Hey, you better warn so.

Speaker 3

And so it's getting close on this, you know.

Speaker 1

Things like that where you know, not just coming at you right away with trying to you.

Now, I thought I was growth asking Jake, are you working the game this weekend?

Speaker 3

Yes, sir, I'm working it and I'm fired up.

Speaker 1

Good luck matching Polos You and Luke, no doubt that's the secret weapon at this point.

Will go with anything that we can to get us what we need.

Okay, Jordan Gross.

Speaker 3

If it works, it works.

It's very simple.

Speaker 1

Have fun, buddy, talk to you soon, all right,

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