[SPEAKER_01]: Welcome into another interview edition of the future socks podcast my name is Elijah Evans and today I'm joined by Adam Sinko the new hitting coach at Winston Salem the high a affiliate of the white socks organization Really pumped to have another interview.

[SPEAKER_01]: We got a bunch coming up here as we lead up to spring training.

[SPEAKER_01]: Adam is just joined the organization as one of the new [SPEAKER_01]: you know, many coaches at the organizational levels throughout the minor leagues, but really pumped to just get a gauge of, you know, talk about his past, his career, everything that has brought him to being a coach now for the White Sox organization.

[SPEAKER_01]: Adam, thanks for taking the time, man.

[SPEAKER_01]: What's going on?

[SPEAKER_01]: Elijah, thanks for having me on.

[SPEAKER_01]: Great to be.

[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_01]: We appreciate you taking the time, we're really excited, obviously.

[SPEAKER_01]: You and I have some mutual friends in the baseball world, so I was able to get connected and hear about kind of, you know, all of the you've been going through, but want to take the time to introduce you to the White Sox fan base and particularly our listeners who are really keyed in on the farm system as obviously you'll be, you know, in Winston's Salem throughout the season with a lot of really fun prospects down there that we like talking about.

[SPEAKER_01]: Freak will be there at the season on our show.

[SPEAKER_01]: But first, I want to just talk a little about your kind of path in your trajectory.

[SPEAKER_01]: Tell me a little bit about your just baseball journey from from a young age kind of getting into baseball and what got you really hooked into the sport.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm from South Florida, which as you probably know as a as a really good area for for baseball and growing up in those is only sport I played.

[SPEAKER_00]: I was, you know, all year round and the good weather.

[SPEAKER_00]: So just found out with baseball at a really young age and my dad played.

[SPEAKER_00]: My brother, my older brother, six years older than me, he played so bad a good role model looking up to him, and I just fell in love with it, you know, super early.

[SPEAKER_00]: So, yeah, played high school ball down in South Florida at university school, with some really good talent around me, had a lot of division one guys on my team, even some pro guys, and actually an NFL quarterback Mike White was on my high school team, so some good [SPEAKER_00]: I'm good baseball down there and, you know, go to an college, went to up to Pennsylvania, went to a small D3 school, called Washington at Jefferson College, and then after a year at W&J ended up transferring to Pitt for the rest of my career, and ended up actually didn't play on that actual, the, the pitch team, I play on the club team there, which is a, [SPEAKER_00]: probably a super rare path to that's a pro ball, but new I was wanted to get in the coaching, you know, really.

[SPEAKER_00]: And while I was in college, so I wanted to set myself up for that career, transferred to a bigger school of that fit, and it was a great decision, really reinvigorated my love for baseball, and let me, but to a really successful coaching career so far, and I've spent six years in college baseball up to this point, [SPEAKER_00]: uh...

mostly the vision the division two level uh...

but the last four years have been at bluesburg university and uh...

northeastern pennsylvania so definitely excited to get down in in the south and get out of the cold weather uh...

for uh...

a little bit here it's uh...

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it's definitely freezing up here and now [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's an awesome path.

[SPEAKER_01]: Then I think it's really unique.

[SPEAKER_01]: Everybody's got their own angle.

[SPEAKER_01]: I know we've talked about all the time with players.

[SPEAKER_01]: Like each player has their own story of where they got to, to they are and how they became the player they are throughout their life, right?

[SPEAKER_01]: So it's cool that you were able to kind of, if you were able to see that coaching was a path you wanted to take from early point and then dive into it head first.

[SPEAKER_01]: What was your first kind of initial step?

[SPEAKER_01]: You obviously going to pit from there, what was your first step getting into the coaching world?

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I actually, once I graduated from Pitt, moved back down to South Florida for two years.

[SPEAKER_00]: So Coach said my high school for three years, and that was really, really fun experience getting to give back to the guys that were, you know, gonna come up in my high school that the head coach was, [SPEAKER_00]: that I worked for was an assistant coach when I played, so I had a connection with him and a really awesome coach, great guy, and so I got that opportunity and then from there, got my first college opportunity, and I know Vesoutheastern University, which is [SPEAKER_00]: really good division to baseball school and and for Lauderdale.

[SPEAKER_00]: JD Martinez came out of there, Mike fires, a couple, Mike Miles Michaelis.

[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, there's some really good history there and I ended up just getting super, super lucky and that's how I turned into hitting coaches.

[SPEAKER_00]: is the head coach, I know the southeast soon at the time was Greg Brown.

[SPEAKER_00]: Greg has some ties to Chicago.

[SPEAKER_00]: He was the big league getting coach for the Cubs in 2022.

[SPEAKER_00]: And he was a special advisor for the Cubs.

[SPEAKER_00]: So I ended up learning under him for a year at Nova.

[SPEAKER_00]: And he told me the first day that I got there, he said, I think you're going to get a PhD in head development and just soak it all in.

[SPEAKER_00]: That's what I did.

[SPEAKER_00]: And after semester there, I was like, I, this could really be a future for me of everything I was learning.

[SPEAKER_00]: Everything I was kind of, you know, bringing together from Coach Brown and everything else from my other experiences.

[SPEAKER_00]: Kind of like, you know, man, I, I got a good grasp of this.

[SPEAKER_00]: And I think I can take this pretty far.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, what's on that a the docket for a PhD in hitting development.

[SPEAKER_01]: What are the couples there?

[SPEAKER_01]: Anything that stands out for you with a couple with all, even if it was small things, anything where you're like, okay, that was one or two things that like really stuck with me from that experience.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, kind of the overarching thing was my, my reaction to everything I was learning was like, man, I wish I knew this when I was playing.

[SPEAKER_00]: Like, so I know a lot of coaches would say that too, but a lot of, a lot of movement stuff that you just don't, [SPEAKER_00]: How to load the body how to get into right the right hitting positions a lot of bat path stuff that made so much sense when I was learning it was like wide and I think of this You know the way the way you're loading the backside of your body the back leg and getting ready to fire and producing a lot of force like it's just more of the The scientific side of it and that's just kind of where the game was moving towards at that time so it was 2019 [SPEAKER_00]: At that time, so we were kind of getting into that zone where we're at firmly now with a lot of biomechanical data, a lot of analytics and just the modern way of teaching hitting, so it was really exciting.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think even from like the media perspective and now that I've been in baseball for a couple of years and the guys we work with right like there's things now where I'm like, man, I understand what's happening there in a way that I never used to when I was playing baseball and I'm like, man, I could have been a I could have been a much better baseball player if I really knew some things and actually learned a little bit more from me on grades right.

[SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's hard.

[SPEAKER_00]: So, if I could tweak my swing, you know, and doing these things, I was, I believe practice and I'd go to the driving range and I'd go hit, like, hit golf balls, like using this, like, new stuff that I was learning with, like, kind of load my hips and how to, how to rotate and how to launch this swing, like, and it was, as far as my golf swing got better because I was, I was using it at, at the range and on the course.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no, we're going to use your body is not a, not the easiest thing to know from a young age if you aren't taught it directly, right.

[SPEAKER_01]: Once you kind of moved up from, you know, from from Nova's out of the Eastern, where were the next stops for you leading up, obviously?

[SPEAKER_01]: The past couple years in Bloomsburg, what were some of the stops along the way for you that kind of continued to hone in on those hitting skills and that knowledge?

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so [SPEAKER_00]: COVID kind of came in right there.

[SPEAKER_00]: So end of 2019, that was the fault, that fault that I was at lack of on it or I was at, so that was my next job.

[SPEAKER_00]: It was lack of on a college and picker college in Pennsylvania.

[SPEAKER_00]: So COVID hit, the 2020 season ended, and then I was looking for jobs.

[SPEAKER_00]: My wife is from Pennsylvania, who she had met her at Pitt.

[SPEAKER_00]: So I was looking at jobs up in Pennsylvania.

[SPEAKER_00]: found a really, really good junior college job at Lackawana for as a coach.

[SPEAKER_00]: The history at Lackawanna, they've got several real series almost every year, one of the best junior college programs, the Northeast part of the country.

[SPEAKER_00]: So spent a year there, we went to the June Code World Series, and then as you probably know, I mean college baseball, especially small school college baseball, it's a grind.

[SPEAKER_00]: And so I was kind of hopping around a little bit, trying to get that opportunity, trying [SPEAKER_00]: You know, pay the bills and make this thing work and so I end up going from Lakalana to Georgia Southwestern State for for a year down in South Georgia.

[SPEAKER_00]: That was.

[SPEAKER_00]: an unbelievable experience with Coach McDonald and help in turn that program around.

[SPEAKER_00]: It was before I got there, it was a former NAI school, hadn't won or had it been higher than six place in their conference, which is the Peach Bell Conference.

[SPEAKER_00]: in the history of the programs since they went D2.

[SPEAKER_00]: So, and then the year that I was there, we finished third in the conference and then the following year they won the conference.

[SPEAKER_00]: So, I'll have been turned that program around with the people that were involved there and players that that I had that such a tight group.

[SPEAKER_00]: So, that year was definitely memorable there and then [SPEAKER_00]: From there, that's when I got up to Bloomsburgs and the fall of 2022 was when I got here.

[SPEAKER_00]: And then, yeah, spent the last three, three years in change.

[SPEAKER_00]: And over the last couple of years, I've been interviewing with some pro teams.

[SPEAKER_00]: And then finally, the White Talks gave me that opportunity that I'm super, super pumped for.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so you mentioned, you know, obviously you spent a couple of years with Bloomsburg, getting yourself even more, you know, fully into that baseball coaching, you know, world rate and having a couple of years of continuity there.

[SPEAKER_01]: When you started getting interest from the White Sox, right?

[SPEAKER_01]: I, you know, have to dive into full of the, you know, everything too much, but like, what was the process like for you kind of joining the White Sox organization?

[SPEAKER_01]: Because we know, you know, there's been a lot of overhaul on the hitting side, obviously, as people that listen to us know right with Ryan Fuller coming in.

[SPEAKER_01]: a whole new kind of regime of hitting development within the organization.

[SPEAKER_01]: What was the experience like for you just initially getting to know these guys and then getting to getting a feel for kind of what the organization is doing from a heading standpoint?

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean right off the bat, I knew that the people that I was talking to Ryan Fuller, Sherman Johnson, the new getting coordinator were like just top-notch people.

[SPEAKER_00]: So I just sent, I was sending emails out to teams and trying to see what would stick.

[SPEAKER_00]: that used to work in the Orioles organization with fuller and firm and he kind of reached out to them after I emailed and it worked out where we got into some interviews and getting to know them and I'm getting to know me.

[SPEAKER_00]: It just felt right.

[SPEAKER_00]: It just felt like we had a good connection.

[SPEAKER_00]: We had to be aligned.

[SPEAKER_00]: and with a lot of, you know, ideas, philosophically training ideas, how to, how to develop itters and things that we value really seem to line up.

[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, it, I told, when, when Paul Janish called me and offered me the job, I told him this and I, and I, and I meant it 100% I don't want to be anywhere else.

[SPEAKER_00]: Like, this is where I feel really, really good about the future of the white socks and the people that, [SPEAKER_00]: that are leading the way and the people that, you know, I'm going to be working with and the people that I'm going to be reporting to, like it just felt really, really, you know, really good.

[SPEAKER_00]: So it, I was really over the moment when Paul called me and asked me the job.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's awesome.

[SPEAKER_01]: I think that a huge part of creating organizational consistency and just messages top down is having people that are bought in on the system and having people that want to be part of what is being preached throughout an organization.

[SPEAKER_01]: And we've noticed that the basketball years for those keeping up with the farm system is that there is more continuity across levels, across the types of prospects, different players that are all striving for the same goals, right?

[SPEAKER_01]: When you think about kind of the philosophy of the organization from from the animation and fuller in all these other guys and firm, [SPEAKER_01]: What are a couple of the things for you personally and even diving into the organization too that you think maybe cross over there that are keys for you when you think about kind of teaching hitting, right?

[SPEAKER_01]: Because I think the organization played a approach has been a huge thing lately, the way you approach it bats, the way you do that, obviously that speed and increasing the way to add impacted different types of players.

[SPEAKER_01]: What are some of the keys for you and just your philosophical approach to hitting?

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'd say those are two of them for sure, [SPEAKER_00]: training basket is such a big thing.

[SPEAKER_00]: We saw the Blue Jays do it last year and then the other thing the Blue Jays did really well is they swarming at good pitches and those two things really lined up for me with everything that Fuller was talking about and I'd say a big, big one is the way we like to train hitters which is challenging them so like that's such an important thing to me is [SPEAKER_00]: I don't believe in an EZBP, I don't believe in, you know, here's a 40-month-hour pitch from 25 feet away, you know, over and over again.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's a lot of challenging environments, you know, if you're going to hit 100 mile an hour fastball with 20 inches of IVB, like you've got to train that.

[SPEAKER_00]: So, I [SPEAKER_00]: definitely with with the interview process and with you know being out in the at the performance camp in Arizona you know that that stuff really aligns for me like the chat the more challenging the the environments.

[SPEAKER_00]: that these players are practicing in.

[SPEAKER_00]: The more prepared they're going to be for the game.

[SPEAKER_00]: And that's what ultimately matters is, I know, is their performance in the game against a real pitcher.

[SPEAKER_00]: So that really stuck out to me throughout the process is just the importance of challenging training and making things as game-like as possible.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think that's another thing that we've heard over time from from Fuller and from other guys that we've talked to in the organization is is just the Breathing competition and creating energy where you're you're competing every day And it's not just going about your business and you know, it's not just the pro guys Right, it's the guys from from the complex all the way up that are that are being put in situations that that force them to compete on a daily basis And it's not just oh, we're gonna go out there.

[SPEAKER_01]: We're gonna get better at [SPEAKER_01]: you know you're swinging all these things it's like oh you're going to compete every day so i think it's cool to hear kind of that shift because i don't think that was necessarily always a thing for for a lot of organizations i don't think that was always a thing for just baseball in the grander scheme right but now you're feeling that throughout many organizations with the white socks new regime being one of them for sure so that i think like the traditional [SPEAKER_00]: You know, thought process is like, oh, we confidence is so important.

[SPEAKER_00]: And he, like, he has to believe in yourself.

[SPEAKER_00]: That is 100% important.

[SPEAKER_00]: But I think the traditional way is like, oh, we need to feed this guy conscious, like, almost fit confidence by making everything easy and in practice.

[SPEAKER_00]: So he feels good about himself.

[SPEAKER_00]: But, you know, we know now over time, like, that's not what improves headers.

[SPEAKER_00]: You know, you could get a little bit better maybe, you know, over time.

[SPEAKER_00]: with the white socks, our goal is to make hitters better faster.

[SPEAKER_00]: So what's the fastest way to make hitters better?

[SPEAKER_00]: Put them in environments that are gonna challenge them and force movements that are important in the game that force bats me to jump in force as adjustments that are gonna play in the game.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_01]: No, that makes sense.

[SPEAKER_01]: So you started, you know, you went through this whole process.

[SPEAKER_01]: You started with the White Talks in December.

[SPEAKER_01]: You mentioned, you know, you've been at a couple of performance camps in Arizona.

[SPEAKER_01]: Getting a taste now of starting in this role and getting to start working with some of these hitters.

[SPEAKER_01]: Anybody that you have been able to start witnessing before I ask you a couple particular names that kind of stood out to you as people you were just like, okay, this is going to be a really fun guy to like work with and see the progression of even if it's not necessarily anybody at your level, just somebody in the lower levels of the miners in general.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, Jayden Fauci is going to be unbelievable.

[SPEAKER_00]: I got to work with him for nine days, a couple weeks ago, and man, he's going to be a special player.

[SPEAKER_00]: The things that he can do, the way he impacts the baseball, the swing decisions are are plus, and then the speed, death leadism, the defense, like he has definitely as a whole package.

[SPEAKER_00]: I can tell you from just meeting him from for a short period like he wants it.

[SPEAKER_00]: He wants to be great.

[SPEAKER_00]: He's got a great personality.

[SPEAKER_00]: Great great guide to coach very coachable.

[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, if I had to pick one out, man, he he's he really stood out at the perform.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_01]: I love that man.

[SPEAKER_01]: I grew up with a bunch of guys that went to Nazareth Academy, including the the head coach over there, Limalano.

[SPEAKER_01]: So I've been hearing about Jayden since he was 14 maybe from some of the guys over at Naz and then got to talk to him this past summer.

[SPEAKER_01]: So he's someone that's been on the radar for quite some time and clearly he could be a very special talent and has the make-up to we interviewed him and back in August after the draft and just the make-up with that guy for someone who just turned 19 is pretty unbelievable, honestly.

[SPEAKER_00]: No doubt, no doubt.

[SPEAKER_00]: He's super mature the way he, you know, we're we're doing some going through some at bats and in the cage and they're on the next VP at him and the way he was taking pitches was just was way above his, you know, his age and just the way the ball comes off the bat.

[SPEAKER_00]: If you put those two things together, you have a special player face discipline at the plate knows what pitches he's looking for what pitches is swing at and then he can.

[SPEAKER_00]: you can do damage and he's going to make a lot of contact, so I like the, you know, the, the ceiling is super hot.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, a few other guys I want to touch on, I'm not sure if you've gotten to see them yet, but rising prospect in the system has become a top 50 prospect in baseball.

[SPEAKER_01]: K-Labonamer finished the season in Winston.

[SPEAKER_01]: He played most of the season in single-anke andapolis, but then got a cup of Winston at the end of the year.

[SPEAKER_01]: Have you seen Monomer yet?

[SPEAKER_01]: And if not, are you kind of familiar with what he brings to the table?

[SPEAKER_01]: Because man, his season, he was already someone that White Sox fans were keyed in on.

[SPEAKER_01]: And this past season, I think, made him like a key focal point of this farm system.

[SPEAKER_00]: I have not seen him in person, you know, have been studying some video and, you know, I've heard, I've talked to the guys about him, Fuller, Sherman, and other hidden coaches that were with me and at the performance camp and, you know, I'm...

[SPEAKER_00]: couldn't be more exciting to meet them and and see what you can do.

[SPEAKER_00]: And from the video I've looked at like it's it's super powerful.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's really quick and explosive.

[SPEAKER_00]: I know he has a lead bat speed.

[SPEAKER_00]: I know he has a lead top that quality.

[SPEAKER_00]: So I got someone to feel like if you put those two things together.

[SPEAKER_00]: You have a precise barrel where you're making hard contacts on the online and then you put that with a lead bat speed like.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm really pumped to work with him.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's crazy twitchy too, like it's such a simplistic swing and it almost seems like it's just it's so quick to the ball and there's not a lot there, like it's a very simple, like, set up for bonamer, but he just is able to get into that pull side power so easily and just drive the ball like crazy.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's, it's, I like, in the hitting world, there's a, there's just saying like slow and early where you want to kind of, you want to start your load early and kind of gather and [SPEAKER_00]: But he's not one of those.

[SPEAKER_00]: And there's a lot of, you know, individual audience and movement and hitting.

[SPEAKER_00]: And if you try to take a guy like him and and cookie cut him into, hey, we want to make you slower.

[SPEAKER_00]: and started earlier and kind of like build your load up that probably wouldn't work for him.

[SPEAKER_00]: He's like you said he's really twitchy, really fast movers, so like with him getting loaded a little bit later and making a quicker move into the backside and then bursting on that ball.

[SPEAKER_00]: Like yeah, I can see that just just off a video.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no, I'm excited to be fun to see where obviously he rises up the ranks.

[SPEAKER_01]: He's become a guy that's nationally a lot more guarded.

[SPEAKER_01]: I think we were super excited about the draft pick.

[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, the socks pit and he was got a bonus that was indicative of the first round talent in the second round, you know, in 2024.

[SPEAKER_01]: So it was always clear he was somebody that they really liked.

[SPEAKER_01]: But then this past season, I think he's he's really showing the entire baseball world that he's a high-end prospect in that regard.

[SPEAKER_01]: A couple other names mentioned.

[SPEAKER_01]: You mentioned Fowski.

[SPEAKER_01]: his counterpart in terms of those top high school draft picks, Billy Carlson, is that a guy that was out there at some of the cans?

[SPEAKER_01]: And if not, if you kind of started to think about what you can do with that guy, he's got a really fun unique template there.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, Billy was out in Arizona with me, so he got some time with him, and man, like another really good personality, I mean, Uber, athletic, like, seeing the way he moves, it's like, all right, like that's that's why he was a top ten [SPEAKER_00]: moves rotates the liver is the barrel, I mean the way he creates force and his frame like he's not a massive guy but he he he can he'll surprise you with his size too like he's six at least six one six two why are he strong and yeah just a just an awesome quality mover you know bat speed is is really good [SPEAKER_00]: If you can get the ball on a line a lot, which I think he will do, and we know what he can do with the glove, I mean, he's so special with the glove watching him take ground balls out there, like, was just an absolute treat, and I know he's like rated one of the top defenders in all of my league baseball.

[SPEAKER_00]: I can see why like that glove is super, super special and the bat is definitely a super high ceiling like he he has a lot in the tank that you know with with he's he's definitely he's young and and he's got a lot coming for him he's we're gonna you know I'm really excited to work with him.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, there's a lot of guys coming up the tank that have a lot of those fun high school picks lately that are just so tantalizing.

[SPEAKER_01]: Last, you know, singular name I'll mention to you here.

[SPEAKER_01]: George Wolkow is a guy that that White Sox fans being an Illinois guy, being a Chicago guy, right?

[SPEAKER_01]: He's got a lot of buzz around him coming out of the draft two years ago, you know, he came into the organization at 17 years old.

[SPEAKER_01]: He's still just turned 20.

[SPEAKER_01]: That's a guy who, you know, it's freakish power.

[SPEAKER_01]: He's, and you know, I don't [SPEAKER_01]: Obviously a big dude who's had to work through a lot of just continual growth and adjustments with this swing the past two years What is it like working you know when you take a guy like that who has so much power, but it's it's he's a huge dude He's got long arms big movements How do you kind of balance out like wanting to maximize his power but also understanding that's a guy that you have to continue to work with on the swing to to get as much contact out of him as you can [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, George George was out there and Arizona also so got to meet him.

[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, also another electric personality like these guys are going to be fun to root for.

[SPEAKER_00]: Like, as a white sounds fan, I can tell you that.

[SPEAKER_00]: A lot of energy, but man, like you said, it's booming power and it's that's super exciting.

[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, I've seen from what I heard, you know, he definitely [SPEAKER_00]: And the past has needed to work on his contact and the swim decisions and the ML looks like he is on a very good path for this year to make those jumps from what I saw at performance camp, and like he was taking pitches on the black, he was really focused on the right things.

[SPEAKER_00]: We were talking to them about those those things that you need to work on and he is all in bot in a bot into to those things and to answer your question on like how do you kind of balance the power and the contact like.

[SPEAKER_00]: He's the type of guy that he just needs to touch it, you know, if he touches it, it's going.

[SPEAKER_00]: So I think he's starting to understand that and starting to control those movements, tighten up his swing, you know, make everything a little bit shorter and more compact.

[SPEAKER_00]: So I like touch it, get in the air and it's going to go.

[SPEAKER_00]: So he's working on those swing decisions, working on his ability to [SPEAKER_00]: to just touch it and it's really, really exciting to see what he's going to do.

[SPEAKER_00]: It looks like he's kind of really a big piece for the future.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think he's someone we've always been super excited about and it takes time you can't rush those types of developments right and he's such a unique profile and everybody takes time to develop of course, but especially when you've just got such a drastic you know, huge dude so young, very early in this career, like you got to be patient with those types of players, but I think that everybody, you know, that watches him closely can tell from from make up and from talent, the type of player that he can be as you can tend to use to grow here.

[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, doubt, doubt, super excited.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I won't get into too many more players at the obvious that you got to get in the lab But these guys you've only know, you know, only then with your organization for two months now But anything for yourself as you kind of just gear up for the season your first full professional season I'm sure obviously you're excited But is there any kind of goals you have for just for yourself or for the team in Winston heading into this season?

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, for the team, you know, the goal is to win the, you know, South politically, you know, that's what, that's what you go out.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, for one, these guys to start to learn how to win in the big leagues, you got to win in the minor leagues, you know, so it translates.

[SPEAKER_00]: So we want, we want guys that are not just going to focus just on individual development, which is obviously a huge, huge part of it, but like, we want, we want guys to be bought into the winning piece of it.

[SPEAKER_00]: also so excited to you know that's that's definitely a goal of mine and then individually just help help these guys just move up like I I want to of course you know have these guys for for the whole year but my goals and have them walk out the door and go double a so that's that's what [SPEAKER_00]: My goal is to have as many guys, you know, in and out the door because they're performing, they're producing it at the level and they're crushing it.

[SPEAKER_00]: So hey, let's send them up to to Birmingham.

[SPEAKER_00]: So like that's that's what I want is this is just help these guys, you know, pursue their dreams and and get the big leagues.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I love to hear it.

[SPEAKER_01]: I think that's the goal.

[SPEAKER_01]: Everybody's, it's been a little fun.

[SPEAKER_01]: The last couple years with Birmingham wedding back to back championships and ready to send some of those championships down to the South Atlantic League, to the International League in Charlotte.

[SPEAKER_01]: I think the organization is really pumped to them.

[SPEAKER_01]: White Sox fans are excited to see all the talent that's flowing through the minor league system right now.

[SPEAKER_01]: So we look forward to seeing everything you've got going on this year.

[SPEAKER_01]: We'll definitely have to check in again this season as you get going into the year and just see kind of how things are going and Winston towards the middle of the year.

[SPEAKER_01]: But we really appreciate you taking the time and welcome to the White Sox organization, man.

[SPEAKER_00]: Thanks so much, Elijah.

[SPEAKER_00]: It was great to be on and yeah, we'll definitely have to talk to you.