Always a joy to have Olivia O’Brien back on the pod — this time to discuss her latest album ‘Pixie’ (it’s her haircut, but listen, she definitely was big into fairies back in the day). It’s been a decade since her breakout hit 'i hate u, i love u' with gnash introduced her to the world, and Olivia is embracing a new era — teaming up with Day Wave aka Jackson Phillips — to create a record that’s indie-pop leaning and as brutally honest as ever. The long purple hair is gone, she’s over her previous attraction to “internet boys,” and her songs showcase her perspective on love, identity, and growing up in the spotlight from this 26-year-old vantage point.

So of course we get into it: the manic pixie dream girl trope, her haircut, and how autobiographical the album really is. She also reflects on 10 years of her breakout song, the disconnect between public perception and reality, being cheated on, dating apps, supporting Benson Boone, the pressure to chase perfection, oversharing and the internet, living with OCD, and so much more.

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