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The first cancer vaccine

Dec 22, 2025
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Episode Description

Hepatitis B is a tiny virus that causes hundreds of thousands of deaths from liver disease and cancer each year. The vaccine against it became the first of many milestones: it was the first viral protein subunit vaccine, the first recombinant vaccine, and the first vaccine to prevent a type of cancer. 

In this episode, Jacob and Saloni follow the trail of strange jaundice outbreaks that scientists traced to a stealthy liver virus, how scientists turned one viral surface protein into a lifesaving shot for newborns, and how it was all built upon breakthroughs in immunology.

Hard Drugs is a new podcast from Works in Progress and Coefficient Giving about medical innovation presented by Saloni Dattani and Jacob Trefethen.


You can watch or listen on YouTube, Spotify, or Apple Podcasts.

Saloni’s substack newsletter: https://www.scientificdiscovery.dev/

Jacob’s blog: https://blog.jacobtrefethen.com/ 

Books:

  • Paul Offit (2007) Vaccinated: One Man's Quest to Defeat the World's Deadliest Diseases
  • Arthur M Silverstein (2009) A history of immunology
  • Ronald W Ellis (1993) Hepatitis B Vaccines in Clinical Practice
  • Sally Smith Hughes (2011) Genentech: The beginnings of biotech

Articles:

Correction: Urea was mentioned as a protein, but is actually the product of a protein breakdown process, not a protein itself.

Acknowledgements:

  • Aria Babu, editor at Works in Progress
  • Graham Bessellieu, video editor
  • Abhishaike Mahajan, cover art
  • Atalanta Arden-Miller, art direction
  • David Hackett, composer

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