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Why are Charismatic Demagogues So Attractive?

Dec 15, 2025
1h 13m

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Episode Description

This week, the great Nils Gilman joined Damir Marusic and Samuel Kimbriel on the pod to unpack the complexities of American foreign policy and its implications for Europe — and beyond. The conversation starts by trying to make sense of Trump’s latest National Security Strategy as a jumping off point, before pivoting into a discussion of populism.

Why do some causes, projects — and people — provide meaning while others fall flat? For example, why is Trump’s nationalism more politically effective than calls to global climate action? And is there a better way to create meaning in an increasingly fragmented world?

Required Reading:

* Nils Gilman, “Climate Leviathan” (Substack).

* Nils Gilman, “The Duopoly of Doom” (Substack).



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