my friend ben isaacs has been playing west african drumming in oakland for years. in this first conversation we get into the systemic reality hiding beneath the bay area's multicultural image, what it means that so much american music traces back to black culture, and what responsibility actually looks like for white musicians who love and benefit from that music.

white people, black music, and liberation is an independent podcast exploring race, music, and what it means to move from *programming* into liberation. 
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