In Episode Eight, Paul and Chris discuss the idea of “hiring for pain” and how they are learning to recognize the difference between real problems and temporary pressure. They explore how pain can show up across teams during periods of growth, why understanding the problem is critical before hiring, and how slowing down can sometimes lead to better long-term results.

You’ll hear about:

• How “hiring for pain” can have positive and negative effects
• The difference between real pain and temporary pressure
• How growth can quickly create pressure across multiple teams
• How endurance training mirrors building a strong foundation in business

It’s a behind-the-scenes look at how Paul and Chris are approaching growing pains and hiring decisions.