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Waldy and Bendy talks about the horses in the Stubbs exhibition at the National Gallery, and delves into how art has portrayed the devil.

See the show notes here: https://zczfilms.com/podcasts/waldy-bendy/season-6-episode-3-horses-and-devils/

Watch on YouTube here: https://youtu.be/7XbHkYanMHM

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Season 6, Episode 3: How art invented the Devil

Episode Description

Never lose your place, on any device