Stephen Hackett joins Jason to talk old Macs, binned chips, and Apple AI. Then Jason discusses the darkest part of Steve Jobs's career with the author of "Steve Jobs In Exile", Geoffrey Cain.

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Geoffrey Cain and Stephen Hackett

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